[06:02] <tsoncul> Hi everyone, is anyone aware of a bug in desktop-switcher in karmic-a6-nbr?
[06:39] <dholbach> good morning
[08:21] <CD4> i am using lenovo y500 and i am having issue with ubuntu 9.04. my touchpad/keypad freezes
[08:21] <CD4> please help
[08:21] <micahg> CD4: I suggest trying #ubuntu
[08:21] <micahg> If they can't solve it, we can help you submit a bug
[08:22] <CD4> ok
[08:22] <CD4> is it on free-node??
[08:22] <micahg> yes
[08:22] <CD4> thanks
[08:27] <CD4> they aren't of much help..
[08:28] <CD4> i think if sum1 helps me submitting a bug
[08:28] <micahg> touchpad and keypad?
[08:29] <CD4> yes
[08:29] <CD4>  they freeze
[08:29] <micahg> ubuntu-bug linux
[08:29] <CD4> everything else, the powermeter, date,time is running
[08:30] <CD4> michang.. dint quite get u??
[08:30] <CD4>  can u come again
[08:30] <CD4> please
[08:30] <micahg> from a terminal type ubuntu-bug linux
[08:30] <tsoncul> CD4: by keypad, do you mean the buttons below the touchpad, or a region of the keyboard?
[08:31] <CD4> umm the keypad on  a laptop
[08:31] <CD4> ketboard fixed to laptop
[08:31] <tsoncul> ok
[08:31] <tsoncul> so you can't do anything with the laptop?
[08:31] <CD4> yes, nothing
[08:32] <tsoncul> just to be clear, you're having this chat from a different computer, correct?
[08:32] <micahg> oh, I thought you just menat the keypad
[08:32] <CD4> when i try live boot.. everything loads but the kayboard and touchpad doesnt work
[08:32] <CD4> yes
[08:32] <CD4>  my pc
[08:32] <CD4> desktop
[08:33] <CD4> michang: both keypad and touchpad of my laptop
[08:33] <tsoncul> if the laptop is running, can you try hitting ctrl+alt+F1?
[08:33] <CD4> in live ubuntu??
[08:33] <tsoncul> yes
[08:33] <CD4> ubuntu live cd???
[08:33] <tsoncul> yes, the laptop running Ubuntu
[08:33] <CD4> i have to check.. i need to switch it on
[08:33] <CD4> another thing
[08:34] <tsoncul> yes?
[08:34] <CD4> when i first ran the live cd (ubuntu), first time it was working fine
[08:34] <CD4> after i shut that down and reboot.. it dint work anymore
[08:35] <CD4> meanwhile . i lcheck .. please wait
[08:35] <tsoncul> sure
[08:44] <CD4> tsoncul,sorry to keep u waiting.. i m searching for it..
[08:45] <tsoncul> searching?
[08:46] <CD4> ya the live cd
[08:46] <CD4>  ok.. its booting nw
[08:47] <CD4> yes i pressed ctrl+alt+f1
[08:47] <CD4> nothing
[08:48] <CD4> nothing happened...
[08:48] <tsoncul> ok
[08:48] <CD4> wat to do next?
[08:48] <tsoncul> I take it the touchpad isn't working again?
[08:48] <CD4> ya both touchpad and keypad
[08:49] <CD4> (the inuilt kayboard as well as inbuilt mouse)
[08:49] <tsoncul> At this point, we're trying to put a bug report out
[08:49] <tsoncul> if you have a USB keyboard that you can temporarily connect to the laptop, it will do the job
[08:50] <CD4> so.. i neednt do naything??
[08:50] <tsoncul> well
[08:50] <CD4> i have but its not usb..
[08:50] <tsoncul> I did a little research in the meantime
[08:50] <CD4> yes
[08:51] <CD4> http://pastebin.com/d304f8062
[08:51] <tsoncul> the problem is, I think, that the kernel isn't recognising the keyboard/touchpad locale
[08:51] <tsoncul> (or something
[08:51] <tsoncul> )
[08:52] <tsoncul> CD4: we're cluttering #ubuntu-bugs, do you want to pm me?
[08:52] <CD4> so wat needs to be done??
[08:52] <CD4> yes
[08:52] <CD4> nw
[09:27] <CD4> tsoncul
[09:27] <CD4> are u there??
[11:46] <tsoncul> Was there an update in the lastfew hours or so that removed Services from System/Administration?
[12:56] <indus> hi
[15:04] <alourie> hello
[15:36] <bddebian> Boo
[17:50] <nperry> Do we make non english bugs incomplete :s
[18:06] <hggdh|afk> nperry: write a comment stating that the bug should ideally be written in English and, since you do not speak/read this language, the bug will be left for a triager that does. Leave it as new
[18:09] <seb128> nperry, hggdh: no, close those bugs or change those to questions
[18:10] <seb128> we have thousand of bugs we don't triage every month there is no point to keep also those where we need a translator to ask details
[18:16] <nperry> Ah ok thanks for that, Just started helping out with all the bugs today - Read through all the wiki but nothing came up about different languages
[18:30] <hernan> Hello. I am trying to install Karmic Alpha 6 in a Toshiba Tecra A7. It has an intel 945 chipset. The font size is huge and is impossible to use it.
[18:32] <hggdh> hernan: the best place for you to discuss this would be on #ubuntu+1. This channel (#ubuntu-bugs) is for discussion on triaging bugs, not for reporting them ;-)
[18:32] <hernan> sorry and thanks.
[19:45] <nperry> Quick question, doesn somoneelse have to confirm a bug before we can set status as triagied?
[19:47] <micahg> nperry: depends
[19:51] <nperry> How can I set a bug to be triaged when i think there is enough information?
[19:52] <micahg> nperry: only members of bug-control can set a bug to triaged
[19:52] <micahg> if you think there's enough information, you can provide the bug number here
[19:52] <micahg> and ask someone to verify and set the status
[19:53] <micahg> also think about the importance of the bug (which also can only be set by a -control member)
[19:54] <nperry> Ah right, OK. Pretty much read all the wiki's and lending a hand during spare time.
[19:54] <micahg> nperry: any help is appreciated
[19:55] <micahg> nperry: and if you want, after you've triaged for a little while and feel comfortable with the process, you can apply for bug-control membership
[19:58] <nperry> Might take me a while to learn the full process, but as you said help is appreciated
[19:58] <hggdh> bdmurray: what to do with bug 383502?
[19:58] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 383502 in coreutils "coreutils' timeout(1) is missing" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/383502
[20:07] <bdmurray> hggdh: I'm not sure did you have anything in mind?
[20:11] <hggdh> bdmurray: that's the point... Who would take care of that? Two packages are affected (tct and coreutils); if we accept it, both will have packaging changed
[20:12] <hggdh> tct is in universe, while coreutils is in main
[20:14] <bdmurray> I'd e-mail ubuntu-devel about it
[20:16] <hggdh> ok
[20:17] <nperry> Bug 434786 - Should this have package upstart or initscripts?
[20:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 434786 in ubuntu "tty1 is displayed on boot/shutdown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434786
[20:22] <micahg> hggdh: any ideas ^^^
[20:22] <hggdh> hold on
[20:24] <hggdh> well, IIRC, TTY output is not given if usplash is active (and boot options include 'quiet' and 'splash'
[20:24] <hggdh> and, again, IIRC usplah is a pre-req for xsplah
[20:25] <hggdh> xsplash
[20:25] <micahg> hggdh: I thought usplash was removed for alpha6
[20:25] <hggdh> heh. was it?
[20:25]  * hggdh checks
[20:27] <hggdh> it is still in the repository, though
[20:27] <kklimonda> wasn't it supposed to be present in case user interaction is required during boot?
[20:28] <kklimonda> good evening :)
[20:28] <hggdh> good evening, kklimonda, long time ;-)
[20:28] <hggdh> I remember something like that -- this was discussed a few days/weeks ago
[20:29] <kklimonda> heh, we don't see each other these days. I haven't talked with bugabundo too for a while... weird :)
[20:29] <hggdh> bugabundo got back to work...
[20:30] <hggdh> but -- back to bug 434786 -- I do not use usplash, so I am not sure. If this is indeed a bug, I would tend to usplash
[20:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 434786 in ubuntu "tty1 is displayed on boot/shutdown" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434786
[20:32] <hggdh> nperry: yours is a really good question ;-)
[20:33] <nperry> For a newb at this, im happy i've asked a good question :)
[20:33] <hggdh> LOL
[20:33] <hggdh> kklimonda, micahg, have you installed alpha6?
[20:34] <micahg> hggdh: no, I'll upgrade when it goes to beta
[20:34] <micahg> I tried a live cd though
[20:36] <hggdh> what I wanted to know is if usplash is still there. I remember someone saying xsplash depended on usplash, but I do not see it as a pre-req
[20:36] <hggdh> ah well. I will take the plunge, and install xsplash
[20:40] <kklimonda> hggdh, i have it installed but I don't have computer till Friday and I can't check dependencies. :)
[20:42] <hggdh> k. I just installed xsplash, and will reboot. Be back in a few. Or not...
[20:50] <nperry> micahg: Just need your opinion on this if you don't mind, bug 434788
[20:50] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 434788 in ubuntu "dust theme has some visual error with Firefox" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434788
[20:51] <micahg> nperry: I don't see the error
[20:51] <hggdh> OK. The reporter be talking about xsplash
[20:52] <micahg> so nperry, we need a description of what the visual error is
[20:53] <nperry> Ah yes, true. If its then vaild what package should it belong to?
[21:03] <hggdh> nperry, I would venture xsplash, but you can ask the reporter if it is installed
[21:04] <nperry> I'm able to confirm it on my netbook
[21:04] <nperry> Which has xsplash
[21:05] <hggdh> so -- if the reporter is also using xsplash -- you can confirm. But we still have to find out for sure
[21:05]  * hggdh can also confirm TTY output on xsplash
[21:06] <micahg> nperry: my guess would be the theme
[21:13] <tormod> are the apport hooks per source or per binary package?
[21:15] <hggdh> nperry -- when confirming a bug, please add a comment to what led you to do it. Also, please be nice -- start with something like "thank you for reporting this bug and helping make Ubuntu better", or the like
[21:16] <hggdh> tormod: I am not sure I follow you
[21:16] <nperry> Ah ok hggdh, thanks for the heads up.
[21:16] <hggdh> nperry: no prob, and thanks for helping
[21:17] <tormod> hggdh, does every binary package need its hook, or is there one for the source pkg coveringa all its binary packages?
[21:18] <hggdh> tormod: it is your choice. If the binary packages are rather different, then you could do it this way. Usually it is per source, though
[21:18] <tormod> looking at /usr/share/apport/package-hooks many has the name "source_*" so I guess I understand it
[21:18] <hggdh> yes
[21:18] <tormod> hggdh, care to look at bug 434061 and why the hook did not trigger?
[21:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 434061 in mesa "[i915] glcells assert failure: *** glibc detected *** glcells: corrupted double-linked list: 0x0843c3d8 ***" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434061
[21:19] <tormod> the xscreensaver hook should attach Xorg.0.log but didn't
[21:19] <tormod> are hooks run for apport-crash?
[21:21] <hggdh> tormod: it does not seem like the hook fired, this looks very much like an apport-standard collection
[21:24] <hggdh> tormod: you can ask the reporter to attach the /var/log/apport.log to find out what apport did on the crash
[21:24] <BUGabundo> boas noutes
[21:24] <BUGabundo> o/
[21:24] <BUGabundo> ola hggdh
[21:24] <BUGabundo> hey seb128
[21:24] <tormod> hggdh, thanks!
[21:25] <seb128> hello BUGabundo
[21:25] <hggdh> boas, BUGabundo
[21:25] <seb128> hey hggdh
[21:25] <hggdh> hi seb128, long time
[21:25] <seb128> indeed
[21:25] <seb128> how are you?
[21:26] <hggdh> life is, well, what life is. I am still alive, so I think I am good ;-)
[21:30] <BUGabundo> hggdh: :)
[21:30] <BUGabundo> glad to hear! lets us know (in advance pref) when life is no more :D
[21:31] <hggdh> BUGabundo: well, there were some reports that life would end today (or yesterday)
[21:31] <bdmurray> seb128: Do you still work with easytag at all?
[21:32] <seb128> bdmurray, I don't use it but I can do changes or upload if required
[21:33] <seb128> why?
[21:33] <bdmurray> seb128: I ran into bug 384929 but the patch attached didn't resolve the bug
[21:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 384929 in easytag "Manual search via CDDB is broken" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/384929
[21:36] <seb128> bdmurray, no idea about that sorry
[21:36] <bdmurray> seb128: no problem, thanks for looking
[21:37] <seb128> you're welcome