| Darxus | Is this an appropriate place to ask for help on azureus from karmic giving me an error on "debuild -S" of: "You must specify a valid JAVA_HOME or JAVACMD!"? Google hasn't helped. | 00:11 |
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| tormod | Darxus, try #ubuntu-motu (did you install all build-deps?) | 00:22 |
| Darxus | I tried #ubuntu-motu first. They took 7 minutes to respond. And it looks like the answer here was better. | 00:27 |
| cjwatson | seven minutes is a quick answer on IRC | 00:28 |
| Darxus | Wow, you typed out "seven". And didn't capitalize it. Weird. | 00:30 |
| slangasek | yes, that also happens on IRC | 00:31 |
| Darxus | Heh. | 00:32 |
| james_w | read(2) states that EAGAIN means that a non-blocking descriptor doesn't have any data for reading right now | 00:32 |
| slangasek | james_w: ? | 00:33 |
| james_w | damn, you noticed! | 00:33 |
| james_w | I was going to slink away quietly as I realised the stupidity of my question | 00:33 |
| slangasek | oh :) | 00:34 |
| james_w | it was how that could happen after poll said the fd was ready | 00:34 |
| james_w | I forgot about the successful read() in the middle | 00:34 |
| jono | just tried running | 00:59 |
| jono | ubuntu-bug xsplash | 01:00 |
| jono | but I get: | 01:00 |
| jono | (gnome-open:5110): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_path_get_basename: assertion `file_name != NULL' failed | 01:00 |
| jono | Error showing url: Failed to execute child process "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xsplash/+filebug/mqbjc344L61q7b3EzVB5nHO0IIs?" (No such file or directory) | 01:00 |
| jono | does that mean xsplash is not set up to work with ubuntu-bug? | 01:00 |
| seb128 | jono, does it work on other sources? | 01:00 |
| jono | trying seb128 nope | 01:01 |
| jono | just tried with empathy | 01:01 |
| seb128 | ok, what it looked like from the error | 01:01 |
| jono | jono@forge:~$ ubuntu-bug empathy | 01:01 |
| jono | (gnome-open:5225): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_path_get_basename: assertion `file_name != NULL' failed | 01:01 |
| jono | Error showing url: Failed to execute child process "https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/empathy/+filebug/lBjafLHE35UK0YZyKBUrzd8xqDj?" (No such file or directory) | 01:01 |
| james_w | jono: System->Preferences->Preferred Applications | 01:01 |
| seb128 | do you have a prefer browser configured and set to working binary? | 01:01 |
| james_w | what do you have as web-browser there? | 01:01 |
| jono | interesting | 01:02 |
| jono | it was custom | 01:02 |
| jono | let me try with firefox | 01:02 |
| jono | jono@forge:~$ | 01:02 |
| jono | Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'firefox' received an X Window System error. | 01:02 |
| jono | This probably reflects a bug in the program. | 01:02 |
| jono | The error was 'BadWindow (invalid Window parameter)'. | 01:02 |
| jono | (Details: serial 680 error_code 3 request_code 20 minor_code 0) | 01:02 |
| jono | (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously; | 01:02 |
| jono | that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it. | 01:03 |
| jono | To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line | 01:03 |
| jono | option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful | 01:03 |
| seb128 | that's a known firefox bug | 01:03 |
| jono | backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.) | 01:03 |
| jono | aborting... | 01:03 |
| jono | intereting | 01:03 |
| jono | interesting | 01:03 |
| seb128 | try again ;-) | 01:03 |
| jono | ok will try chromium | 01:03 |
| maco | !pastebin | 01:03 |
| ubottu | pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic | 01:03 |
| seb128 | well it doesn't do it every time | 01:03 |
| seb128 | jono, when they say that filing bugs will be harder they mean it ;-) | 01:03 |
| jono | maco, I know, it was short enough of a paste | 01:03 |
| jono | seb128, lol | 01:03 |
| jono | ok works in chromium :) | 01:04 |
| Darxus | The build-deps fixed my problem. | 01:34 |
| Darxus | Uploaded my first debdiff and subscribed ubuntu-universe-sponsors! | 01:34 |
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| bluefoxicy | き | 02:59 |
| bluefoxicy | this glyph... the curve at the bottom should not connect with the leftward serif off the top segment | 02:59 |
| bluefoxicy | http://dic.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/74/Japanese_Hiragana_kyokashotai_KI.png | 03:00 |
| Darxus | bluefoxicy: Submit a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ | 03:45 |
| TheMuso | cd | 04:02 |
| TheMuso | woops wrong tab | 04:02 |
| poningru | heh | 04:03 |
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| glick | has anyone here heard/use MPC to build software? | 04:19 |
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| === mrpouit is now known as mr_pouit | ||
| dholbach | good morning | 06:39 |
| nixternal | good morning to you dholbach | 06:41 |
| nixternal | you've got mail btw | 06:41 |
| nixternal | I left MOTU :/ | 06:41 |
| dholbach | hiya nixternal | 06:42 |
| dholbach | err | 06:42 |
| nixternal | it wasn't my fault though, GMail ate up the email about me expiring :) | 06:42 |
| dholbach | bah | 06:42 |
| nixternal | haha | 06:42 |
| * dholbach slaps nixternal around with a BIG trout | 06:42 | |
| dholbach | man | 06:42 |
| dholbach | ! | 06:42 |
| dholbach | not so early in the morning | 06:42 |
| nixternal | gotcha! | 06:42 |
| highvoltage | heh | 06:42 |
| nixternal | big trout? that is some mIRC there man | 06:42 |
| dholbach | you know what... | 06:42 |
| dholbach | find somebody else to re-add you to the team | 06:43 |
| nixternal | I can't unexpire myself | 06:43 |
| nixternal | I already asked the others :) | 06:43 |
| TheMuso | hehehehe | 06:43 |
| nixternal | I can't add myself, but I can remove you ;p | 06:43 |
| nixternal | so you will be in this same boat as well :) | 06:43 |
| nixternal | I expired in June too, just found out about it :) | 06:43 |
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| nixternal | gotta keep an eye on it, cuz my ubuntu membership expired last month and ate up a weeks worth of email before I figured out what was wrong | 06:44 |
| dholbach | :) | 06:44 |
| === matthewlye is now known as mattlye | ||
| nixternal | it was cool, because instead of 1,000 emails a day, I was getting about 5 a week :) | 06:44 |
| === mattlye is now known as matthewlye | ||
| === matthewlye is now known as Vantrax | ||
| glick | hey does anyone here use SCONS or MPC as a build system? | 06:56 |
| glick | and which one is better/easier | 06:56 |
| dholbach | robert_ancell: could you hop into #ubuntu-reviews ? | 06:59 |
| TheMuso | glick: Never used mpc, but I've had to deal with projects usinc scons, and I would personally stay away from scons at all costs. | 07:09 |
| pitti | Good morning | 07:16 |
| glick | why TheMuso it looks pretty decent from reading about it on the website | 07:41 |
| glick | whats so horrible about it | 07:41 |
| TheMuso | glick: For one, scons has caused issues when package have been building on the Ubuntu ubild servers for Ubuntu. Then there is the difficulty in passing CFLAGS etc to a project when the SConstruct files haven't been written properly. | 07:50 |
| TheMuso | glick: Granted autoconf is the same, but I have had too many bad experiences to recommend it to anyone. I also know that other devs around here stear well clear of it. | 07:51 |
| glick | can you recommend anything else? i have a project that needs to compile on windows, linux/unix, and vxworks, and integrity | 07:52 |
| glick | maintaining 5 build files is a nightmare, and MPC the current system is a pain | 07:52 |
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| TheMuso | glick: I know that people manage to use autoconf/automake on windows using cygwin/mingw, but I am not sure how much more work that is. Since I have no experience with realy cross platform projects like that, I can't really suggest anything. My personal choice for a linux project is autoconf/automake. | 07:54 |
| wrapster | apt-sastisfydepends --> command not found | 08:05 |
| wrapster | devscripts have been installed | 08:05 |
| wrapster | can anyone help me? | 08:20 |
| wrapster | Im a newbie to packaging | 08:20 |
| pitti | wrapster: command-not-found doesn't know it either; what do you want to do? | 08:20 |
| pitti | wrapster: perhaps sudo apt-get build-dep <srcpackage> ? | 08:20 |
| wrapster | pitti: ive described everything here http://pastie.org/625614 | 08:24 |
| dholbach | sudo apt-get build-dep gcc-4.4 (or gcc-4.3 if you want to modify that one) will be a good start | 08:26 |
| dholbach | you need gcc to compile gcc, there's no way around that | 08:26 |
| wrapster | dholbach: but wont it generate errors complaining that its already installed? | 08:27 |
| dholbach | no, because if you build the package using debuild or dpkg-buildpackage, it uses fakeroot(1) | 08:28 |
| ogra | pitti, bug 434210 ... you might want to close it if you feel like | 08:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 434210 in gdm "'text' mode boots into X" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434210 | 08:29 |
| pitti | ogra: oh, indeed; thanks | 08:29 |
| wrapster | dholbach: ok thanks will do it and see | 08:30 |
| dholbach | rock on! | 08:30 |
| wrapster | dholbach: cooool built it.. But i have an issue here.. i had already downloaded the gcc source so I used it as well.. But there are other pkgs (like gcc-4.3, gcc-4.3-dev and so on) how do i know in which pkg i should modify the rules file | 08:35 |
| dholbach | gcc (from gcc-defaults source package) is just a meta-package | 08:36 |
| dholbach | the actual gcc, comes from gcc-4.3 and gcc-4.4 | 08:36 |
| dholbach | I don't know what you want to change, so I can't tell you which source package you should be modifying :) | 08:36 |
| dholbach | and for gcc, I'm really not the best person to talk to :) | 08:37 |
| wrapster | dholbach: i want to add a few symlinks to /usr/bin/gcc pointing to /usr/sfw/bin/gcc | 08:43 |
| Appiah | http://packages.ubuntu.com/ <- anyone else having problems reaching this page atm? | 08:45 |
| wrapster | i added that in the source of gcc. and it worked.. | 08:45 |
| wrapster | i now have a symlink but not very sure if i am adderssing the right pkg | 08:45 |
| dholbach | wrapster: I'm not sure that's a good fix, but unfortunately I can't help you there | 08:46 |
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| nubae|work | hi there... I work for Guadalinex-edu, and we are looking for a way to add the exit (logout options) button to the top panel via gconf... but cannot seem to find that option anywhere... can someone guide me as to where/how to do that (has to be done on a large scale, so can't do it via right click, etc)? | 09:09 |
| lool | pitti: Around? | 09:11 |
| lool | pitti: I'd like to discuss apport's hookutils with you | 09:11 |
| lool | pitti: I'd like to use the attach_gconf() utility for various packages but the settings are overwritten by each run since the section has a static name | 09:12 |
| lool | pitti: Would it be possible to use a dict in report['GConfNonDefault'] instead of a string? | 09:12 |
| lool | Otherwise I'm thinking of passing the section name as argument (name = 'GConfNonDefault') by default but can be overriden, or of moving the section around in the caller | 09:13 |
| pitti | hi | 09:13 |
| pitti | lool: the latter will work | 09:13 |
| pitti | lool: dictionaries as values aren't supported right now | 09:13 |
| lool | pitti: What about passing the name of the section as argument? | 09:14 |
| pitti | that would require writing marshalling and unmarshalling for the various file formats (RFC822, multipart-mime) | 09:14 |
| pitti | lool: right, that would be fine | 09:14 |
| lool | (Ok wasn't sure which "latter" you meant) | 09:14 |
| lool | pitti: Ok; another option is to always append to report['GConfNonDefault'] if it exists | 09:15 |
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| lool | pitti: I can do any of these two (variable section or always appending) | 09:15 |
| pitti | lool: that sounds fine as well | 09:15 |
| lool | pitti: Ok I have a preference for always appending because in desktop-switcher I'd like to call other packages' hooks | 09:15 |
| pitti | seb128: ^ what would you prefer in bug reports? | 09:15 |
| lool | And I dont want to rename GConfNonDefault in each package | 09:15 |
| * ccheney can't sleep :-\ | 09:15 | |
| pitti | seb128: GconfNonDefaults having all changed settings from all packages in one field? | 09:16 |
| * ccheney so he is working instead, heh | 09:16 | |
| * pitti counts sheep for ccheney | 09:16 | |
| pitti | seb128: or separate fields per package? | 09:16 |
| seb128 | pitti, I think I missed part of the discussion to understand the question | 09:16 |
| lool | pitti: I dont think it touches any package right now though | 09:16 |
| seb128 | oh, apport | 09:16 |
| seb128 | I was thinking gconf schemas | 09:16 |
| lool | seb128: So if apports utility to collect gconf non-default settings is called on two different packages, the last one wins; the question is whether you'd like the various settings to go in different sections or can they be aggregated in the same setting | 09:17 |
| seb128 | I've no strong opinion either way, whatever is the easiest | 09:18 |
| seb128 | as far as the datas are there | 09:18 |
| seb128 | as long as | 09:18 |
| seb128 | brb another quick session restart | 09:18 |
| lool | sebner: Ok thanks | 09:20 |
| lool | err sorry sebner | 09:20 |
| seb128 | re | 09:24 |
| seb128 | pitti, yeah, so no strong opinion there for the gconf dump as long as we have the datas | 09:24 |
| seb128 | I think it's a corner case anyway | 09:24 |
| pitti | seb128: *nod* | 09:25 |
| lool | ok thanks | 09:25 |
| pitti | lool: so, same field and append seems most robust to me | 09:25 |
| pitti | then hooks don't need to care | 09:25 |
| lool | pitti: Yes exactly | 09:25 |
| seb128 | +1 | 09:25 |
| lool | that's what I was implementing | 09:25 |
| sladen | what's the deal with this ~60 seconds of ultimate pure blackness on boot now, with not even the black light turned on? | 09:34 |
| pitti | sladen: bug 431812 | 09:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 431812 in sysvinit "fbcon loading a mystery (screen powers off)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/431812 | 09:34 |
| sladen | pitti: wondering whether to bump it to critical, it kills (recovery mode) | 09:37 |
| pitti | done | 09:39 |
| geser | pitti: Hi, I've looked at the cause of http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31948454/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.kde-l10n-sr_4%3A4.3.0-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz (from the rebuild test) and it failed because both the sed expression in pkgstriptranslations and the locale name use an @: | 10:00 |
| geser | sed -i 's@^[[:alnum:]]\+ usr/share/locale/sr@latin/entry.desktop$@c7ff2ad283d1914db2c7797ce8789719 usr/share/locale/sr@latin/entry.desktop@' DEBIAN/md5sums | 10:00 |
| geser | I've replaced the @ in the sed expression with an # but wonder if there is a better delimiter | 10:01 |
| dholbach | ttx is doing patch/package reviews in #ubuntu-reviews | 10:02 |
| pitti | geser: hi | 10:03 |
| pitti | geser: oh, good catch; # should be fine, it's not a valid part of a locale | 10:03 |
| ogra | hrm, no Keybuk ... | 10:09 |
| pitti | ogra: he's on a conference | 10:10 |
| ogra | does anyone know how i'm supposed to start services if i boot with init=/bin/bash | 10:10 |
| ogra | now that we dont have any initscripts anymore | 10:10 |
| geser | have you tried: service - run a System V init script | 10:11 |
| ogra | it needs upstart :) | 10:11 |
| ogra | afaik | 10:11 |
| ogra | i'll try it | 10:11 |
| directhex | okay, mono 2.4.2.3+dfsg-2 has definitely evaporated. i know it was "fix released"ed | 10:19 |
| directhex | Bug 426759, synced by seb128 weeks ago | 10:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 426759 in mono "Sync mono 2.4.2.3+dfsg-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/426759 | 10:19 |
| seb128 | directhex, you might have opened the sync request when the new revision was not on mirrors yet | 10:20 |
| geser | pitti: bug 434544 when you have some time for review and sponsoring | 10:20 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 434544 in pkgbinarymangler "pkgstripstranslations fails if the locale contains an @" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434544 | 10:20 |
| seb128 | directhex, and I've overlooked the revision in the title | 10:21 |
| directhex | - <mono_2.4.2.3+dfsg-2.dsc: downloading from http://ftp.debian.org/debian/> | 10:21 |
| sebner | directhex: pitti acked my sync request. seb128 mind syncing again? | 10:22 |
| sebner | seb128: bug #433070 | 10:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 433070 in mono "Sync mono 2.4.2.3+dfsg-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/433070 | 10:22 |
| pitti | geser: thanks! I'm currently doing sponsoring anyway, will grab this | 10:22 |
| seb128 | directhex, dunno what happened | 10:22 |
| directhex | sebner, i wish i knew what had happened to it. eaten by gremlins! | 10:22 |
| sebner | directhex: lost in the nirvana :\ | 10:22 |
| directhex | seb128, uploaded to debian 2 days before you ran the sync, so it can't be a timing issue :/ | 10:22 |
| directhex | seb128, launchpad be eatin' packages! | 10:23 |
| seb128 | I might have forgotten to flush and somebody cleaned the cache dir | 10:23 |
| seb128 | doing that now | 10:23 |
| cjwatson | maybe we should invent an upstart mode that starts upstart but then just drops into a shell task and blocks everything else until you explicitly ask for them | 10:27 |
| cjwatson | like init=/bin/bash except you get to use initctl | 10:27 |
| ogra | yeah | 10:27 |
| ogra | well, that doesnt help me either though ... | 10:28 |
| bdrung | do i need a ffe for bug 430658? | 10:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 430658 in lintian "Please merge lintian 2.2.16 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430658 | 10:29 |
| ogra | in rootstock i use debootstrap first stage on an image, put a setup script in place (called /sbin/installer), then fire up a vm and call that with init=/sbin7installer | 10:29 |
| directhex | cjwatson, was i imagining over the weekend that fsck happens after modesetting but before any splashing, so you just get a black screen for an unknown and scary length of time? | 10:29 |
| cjwatson | directhex: there are known bugs getting fbcon up at the right time | 10:29 |
| cjwatson | directhex: bug 431812 | 10:29 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 431812 in sysvinit "i915: black screen on boot---fbcon loading (screen powers off); breaks (recovery mode), fsck, usplash, crypt password" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/431812 | 10:29 |
| ogra | /sbin/installer being a shellscript, upstart would have to act like an interpreter here | 10:29 |
| directhex | just checking | 10:29 |
| cjwatson | ogra: the kernel is perfectly good at spawning interpreters where necessary, even for init= | 10:30 |
| cjwatson | or for anything started via execve in any way | 10:30 |
| ogra | oh, wait, /sbin/installer could be an upstart job i assume :) ... a little more work for me but likely a lot more elegant | 10:30 |
| ogra | and i wouldnt need init= at all | 10:31 |
| seb128 | pitti, any idea on bug #430494? | 10:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 430494 in gdm "gdm upstart script fails to start gdm" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430494 | 10:31 |
| seb128 | I'm not sure how to debug upstart scripts | 10:31 |
| cjwatson | ogra: that is certainly a better replacement | 10:31 |
| ogra | cjwatson, yeah, i just fear the amount of changes i have to do that late in the cycle | 10:31 |
| ogra | seems more risky than having something that already is proven to work fine since a while | 10:32 |
| cjwatson | *shrug* goes for the whole boot sequence | 10:32 |
| ogra | heh, yeah | 10:32 |
| lool | pitti: Mind reviewing/merging lp:~lool/apport/gconf-non-defaults-append ? | 10:33 |
| lool | Didn't send a merge request yet | 10:34 |
| pitti | lool: sure | 10:34 |
| lool | This worked in my trivial testing | 10:34 |
| lool | With a nice split between the settings when reading the report | 10:35 |
| ogra | hmm, no, that wouldnt work, in debootstrap's second stage upstart isnt available, is it ? | 10:35 |
| pitti | lool: hm, why does your branch also contain kees' changes to parse_segv? | 10:36 |
| lool | pitti: I branched lp:apport | 10:37 |
| pitti | oops, forgot to pull first, my bad | 10:38 |
| pitti | lool: but now you added attach_conffiles(), which doesn't belong into trunk | 10:38 |
| pitti | lool: without that, it looks fine | 10:38 |
| lool | pitti: Oh crap | 10:39 |
| * pitti drops it and merges | 10:39 | |
| pitti | lool: don't worry | 10:39 |
| lool | pitti: I'm stupid I started on the wrong branch and copied the file over instead of the diff | 10:39 |
| pitti | lool: conffiles aren't an upstream concept, so I can't have that in trunk | 10:39 |
| lool | pitti: So I didn't quite get how the stacks were layered; I saw the ubuntu branch but though that was packaging | 10:39 |
| lool | but actually it's not | 10:40 |
| pitti | done | 10:40 |
| pitti | thanks! | 10:40 |
| bdrung | pitti: do i need a ffe for bug 430658? | 10:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 430658 in lintian "Please merge lintian 2.2.16 (main) from Debian unstable (main)." [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430658 | 10:40 |
| lool | pitti: So I just pull upstream into ubuntu branch? | 10:40 |
| lool | pitti: I mean do you mind the changes going to the .diff? | 10:40 |
| pitti | lool: I do that now; there's a fair share of trunk changes, I do a new upstream release and then upload | 10:41 |
| === TheMuso` is now known as TheMuso | ||
| lool | pitti: Thanks | 10:41 |
| pitti | lool: I don't mind changes in the diff, but it's time for a new usptream relelase | 10:41 |
| pitti | bah, my typing sucks today | 10:41 |
| pitti | bdrung: I'll have a look, but lintian shouldn't cause problems | 10:41 |
| bdrung | pitti: thanks | 10:42 |
| bdrung | TheMuso: ping | 10:42 |
| bdrung | pitti: can you add "discuss UnitsPolicy" to the TB agenda? | 10:47 |
| pitti | bdrung: feel free to add it yourself; do you want to be present? | 10:48 |
| bdrung | yes | 10:48 |
| bdrung | pitti: according to the wiki: "in which case they will add it to this page. " so i thought i should ask | 10:49 |
| pitti | bdrung: right, I'm fine with discussing it | 10:50 |
| lool | pitti: Ah I might have found a bug in the gconf handling in apport with gnome-panel | 10:59 |
| Appiah | is there no openvz kernel in karmic? | 10:59 |
| lool | pitti: hook is http://paste.ubuntu.com/275760/ | 10:59 |
| lool | pitti: traceback http://paste.ubuntu.com/275761/ | 10:59 |
| soren | Appiah: Not since Intrepid. | 11:00 |
| soren | Appiah: Last one to have it was hardy. | 11:00 |
| pitti | lool: hm, I thought I fixed that a while ago | 11:00 |
| pitti | lool: but it might have been a similar crash (also in the xml parser) | 11:01 |
| lool | pitti: If you copy that hook in source_gnome-panel.py in /usr/share/apport/package-hooks and run ubuntu-bug gnome-panel, can you trigger it? | 11:01 |
| pitti | lool: hm, no, I can't | 11:02 |
| pitti | lool: ah, I fixed the crash for the "default" tag | 11:03 |
| pitti | but not for <applyto> | 11:03 |
| lool | pitti: I have the issue with /usr/share/gconf/schemas/panel-compatibility.schemas | 11:04 |
| lool | Which has no applyto | 11:04 |
| pitti | right, no applyto here | 11:04 |
| lool | pitti: but I dont get why you dont reproduce | 11:04 |
| pitti | lool: ah, I do actually; sorry, it scrolled off due to some firefox spewage | 11:05 |
| pitti | hm, without an <applyto>, how does gconf behave? | 11:06 |
| lool | I have no idea | 11:06 |
| pitti | I think I just fall back to the <key> value | 11:06 |
| pitti | it will have the /schemas/ prefix, but it should be clear enough | 11:06 |
| lool | pitti: Hey did you consider creating a dh_apport? | 11:06 |
| lool | I'm adding a debian/source_foo.py to a bunch of packages and realize it's not ideal | 11:06 |
| pitti | I didn't so far | 11:07 |
| pitti | I usually put them into debian/local and just add them to .install | 11:07 |
| lool | pitti: I also wonder whether it wouldn't make sense to simply collect gconf settings systematically | 11:07 |
| pitti | lool: I'm a bit hesitant of that | 11:07 |
| pitti | lool: for example, ekiga stores passwords unencrypted in gconf | 11:07 |
| lool | pitti: I add them to debian/ and add them to .install; it's trivial but it's also the perfect usage for dh_ :-) | 11:07 |
| lool | pitti: Aha good point | 11:08 |
| pitti | arguably that's an ekiga bug (it should use gnome-keyring) | 11:08 |
| lool | It's probably a bug in ekiga but there might be a bunch | 11:08 |
| pitti | but I don't know what other bits also store sensitive bits in gconf | 11:08 |
| lool | Yeah we're n the same page | 11:08 |
| pitti | heh | 11:08 |
| lool | pitti: I've added the hook to gnome-panel now (in bzr only) and wont upload; I understand you'll likely fix this apport issue soon and upload, or should I explicitely disable the hook for now and wait for the actual apport upload? | 11:11 |
| pitti | lool: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Eapport-hackers/apport/trunk/revision/1605 | 11:12 |
| pitti | lool: please go ahead and upload; a crashing hook doesn't crash apport, it's just ignored | 11:12 |
| pitti | lool: yes, I'll put that into the 1.9.1 release and upload | 11:12 |
| lool | Cool thanks | 11:12 |
| lool | pitti: Bah I dont want to cause people to be wondering about the ubuntu-bug stracktrace in terminal or reports to miss dependencies etc. | 11:13 |
| lool | Or pedro is going to come and beat me | 11:13 |
| pitti | lool: it's just for two hours or so :) | 11:16 |
| lool | that's what I wanted to confirm; thanks | 11:17 |
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| doko | pitti: would you mind a python-tz sync from unstable? | 11:47 |
| pitti | doko: 2009l-1 ? | 11:48 |
| doko | pitti: yes | 11:49 |
| pitti | doko: done | 11:50 |
| dholbach | pitti, seb128: what do you think we should with bug 63412? it's been on the sponsoring list for a while and set upstream | 12:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 63412 in tsclient "Few resolution options" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/63412 | 12:32 |
| dholbach | sent | 12:32 |
| seb128 | dholbach, +do? | 12:32 |
| cjwatson | does it need to be uploaded, or should it just be taken off the sponsorship list since it's been upstreamed | 12:32 |
| seb128 | dholbach, I've been looking at it, the patch is some hundred lines and not trivial to review I don't want to upload it | 12:32 |
| seb128 | well let's say I didn't find the time to review it properly | 12:33 |
| cjwatson | so shall we unsubscribe the sponsors team so we don't have to keep on looking at it, in that case? | 12:33 |
| seb128 | and I'm not wanting to spend half an hour on that, I've higher todo items on my list | 12:33 |
| dholbach | it looks a bit like tsclient is dead upstream?`:) | 12:33 |
| seb128 | well, there is a patch so it would be nice to have somebody to review it | 12:33 |
| pitti | hm, the patch hasn't even been sent to upstream | 12:36 |
| seb128 | it has if that's the bug I'm thinking about | 12:36 |
| james_w | dholbach: 'tis not | 12:36 |
| seb128 | oh, there is 2 tsclient sponsoring requests | 12:37 |
| seb128 | right that's the other one who got sent upstream | 12:37 |
| seb128 | I think debian pkg-gnome guys were discussing replacing tsclient with something active upstream recently | 12:37 |
| dholbach | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1689142&group_id=192483&atid=941574 links to http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=2799711&group_id=192483&atid=941576 | 12:37 |
| seb128 | and maybe vinagre will have the features next cycle | 12:37 |
| dholbach | james_w, pitti: ^ | 12:38 |
| ubottu | Error: <Bugtracker.plugin.Sourceforge instance at 0xe789e0> bug 1689142 not found | 12:38 |
| dholbach | sf's tracker is a pain in the arse | 12:38 |
| seb128 | meanwhile I'm not sure what to do with the "should be reviewed but everybody is too busy or doesn't care about the software" bugs | 12:38 |
| pitti | seb128: there's an upstream bug with about zero details, and no patch attached | 12:38 |
| seb128 | they sit there for ages right now | 12:38 |
| seb128 | pitti, the patch is there IIRC they ui just sucks | 12:39 |
| pitti | "No attachments", hm | 12:39 |
| dholbach | aha: "Launchpad couldn't import bug #1689142 from SourceForge.net Tracker." | 12:39 |
| ubottu | Error: Launchpad bug 1689142 could not be found | 12:39 |
| pitti | ah, it has a link to the patch in a comment | 12:39 |
| dholbach | pitti: try the second link I gave above | 12:39 |
| dholbach | *nod* | 12:39 |
| pitti | seb128: it's mainly "I don't want to take responsibility for the patch" | 12:40 |
| pitti | it's a major patch, and I don't use tsclient, and it's not a major bug | 12:40 |
| pitti | and there's no upstream feedback | 12:40 |
| seb128 | right, same here | 12:40 |
| pitti | and I guess it's the same for everyone else | 12:40 |
| seb128 | that's why I've been ignoring it and waiting that somebody who cares to spend the efforts take it | 12:41 |
| pitti | so, anyone objects if we are honest and I just unsub sponsors with a comment that it should go upstream first? | 12:41 |
| seb128 | it's upstream, they don't reply | 12:42 |
| seb128 | I can understand how it's frustrating for the user | 12:42 |
| dholbach | pitti: no, I'll also ping Efrain to ping upstream again | 12:42 |
| seb128 | I don't have a good reply though | 12:42 |
| pitti | done | 12:44 |
| * pitti sees the bullets come | 12:44 | |
| mvo | davmor2: could you please file a bug about the missing entires in software-store on the live-cd? | 12:45 |
| davmor2 | mvo: will do I'm just double checking that it works as expected once the system is installed | 12:46 |
| mvo | davmor2: cool, thanks | 12:46 |
| cjwatson | ogra: bug 129769: the patch provided there is correct, but do you think xscreensaver (or xscreensaver-data?) should recommend screensaver-default-images as well? | 12:48 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 129769 in xscreensaver "newly installed xscreensaver errors without /usr/share/backgrounds" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129769 | 12:48 |
| ogra | screensaver-default-images should simply go away imho | 12:48 |
| cjwatson | maybe that would be over the top, I'm not sure | 12:48 |
| cjwatson | oh | 12:48 |
| cjwatson | huh, ok - in that case I'll just sponsor the patch provided to fix the error | 12:48 |
| ogra | its marks personal image collection | 12:49 |
| ogra | was supposed to be taken over by the art team with new and shiny images for each release | 12:49 |
| cjwatson | right | 12:49 |
| ogra | that never happened, so we could as well save the CD space | 12:49 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, developer-membership-board invitation to join ubuntu-desktop pending now | 12:56 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, ie somebody needs to accept it | 12:56 |
| cjwatson | seb128: done | 12:57 |
| seb128 | cjwatson, thanks, set as admin too now | 12:58 |
| ogra | does anyone know if upstart is supposed to work without initramfs ? | 13:05 |
| lool | ogra: yes it should | 13:06 |
| ogra | thanks | 13:06 |
| lool | ogra: I have that from an email of scott from this morning or yesterday evening | 13:06 |
| ogra | i dont get why my VM gets quiet then | 13:06 |
| lool | s/of/from | 13:06 |
| ogra | i dont get any boot messages at all | 13:06 |
| lool | ogra: How can I easily reproduce? | 13:07 |
| ogra | i can put my rootstock script on people.u.c and you need to install qemu-arm-static | 13:07 |
| lool | Ok | 13:08 |
| ogra | gimme one sec until the next test finishes | 13:08 |
| ogra | i dropped all serial redirection, lets see if i see output in grapical mode of qemu-system-arm | 13:08 |
| ogra | hmm, no, doesnt look like | 13:09 |
| ogra | and the VM doesnt even use any CPU | 13:09 |
| ogra | just sits there | 13:10 |
| ogra | lool, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/rootstock | 13:12 |
| wrapster | how to i use the debchange -i to change the version number? | 13:15 |
| pitti | wrapster: dch -v <version number> | 13:16 |
| wrapster | pitti: what Im doing is actually modifying an existing pkg and i need to change the version number thats all.. | 13:17 |
| wrapster | pitti: i should use -v aye? | 13:17 |
| pitti | wrapster: you shouldn't change an existing version number | 13:18 |
| pitti | usually you add a new changelog entry with a new one? | 13:18 |
| wrapster | pitti: yes thats what I want to do | 13:18 |
| ogra | dch -i ... in the tree of your unpacked source package | 13:18 |
| ogra | that should fire up an editor with the changelog and incremented version number | 13:19 |
| wrapster | yeah it did.. then | 13:19 |
| wrapster | im a newbie so pls help | 13:19 |
| ogra | well, you add your changelog entry after * (usually thats where your cirsor stands too at that point) | 13:20 |
| ogra | *cursor | 13:20 |
| ogra | soren, do you have to jump through any hoops to make upstart work in VMs ? | 13:21 |
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| * ogra doesnt seem to get qemu starting a basic deboostrapped image | 13:22 | |
| soren | ogra: Not really. | 13:22 |
| ogra | weird | 13:22 |
| ogra | i get zero output ... VM just sits there ... upstart doesnt seem to exec any jobs | 13:23 |
| lool | ogra: Which package is the static qemu in?!? | 13:26 |
| ogra | qemu-arm-static | 13:26 |
| ogra | only i386 though | 13:26 |
| lool | Why? | 13:26 |
| lool | (I'm running amd64) | 13:26 |
| ogra | because i had reports that people had additional syscall probs there ... i386 runs reliable | 13:27 |
| ogra | though that wasnt actually with qemu-arm-static but with my former version | 13:27 |
| ogra | i should enable amd64 again | 13:27 |
| lool | As in it cant work due to a technical impossibility or really hard to fix problem, or it's a bit buggy? | 13:27 |
| ogra | my former version surely was buggy | 13:28 |
| ogra | the one in the package might not, i went the safe path and didnt enable amd64 | 13:28 |
| ogra | i probably should swithc it on again | 13:28 |
| lool | ogra: uploadin | 13:29 |
| lool | g | 13:29 |
| ogra | what ? | 13:29 |
| lool | With amd64 and lpia enabled | 13:29 |
| ogra | ugh, lpia ? | 13:29 |
| lool | yeah do you care? | 13:29 |
| ogra | remember its all syscall translations :) | 13:29 |
| ogra | not really | 13:29 |
| ogra | apart from the bugreports i might get | 13:29 |
| lool | on lpia? | 13:30 |
| ogra | well, who knows | 13:30 |
| lool | ogra: I just changed control; I think that's all what was needed | 13:30 |
| ogra | yep | 13:31 |
| ogra | but i dont know if it will work :) | 13:31 |
| ogra | we'll see | 13:31 |
| lool | Did you see qemu ftbfs on armel? | 13:31 |
| lool | and ia64 and powerpc, for three different reasons | 13:32 |
| ogra | yes, we talked about it before | 13:33 |
| ogra | to be honest i dont really care | 13:33 |
| ogra | hmm | 13:35 |
| ogra | so: qemu-system-arm -M versatilepb -cpu cortex-a8 -kernel qemu-vmlinuz -hda qemu-armel-200909221415.img -m 256M -append "root=/dev/sda rw" | 13:35 |
| ogra | gets me buffer I/O errors on sda | 13:35 |
| ogra | thats new | 13:35 |
| lool | that's what I was getting all the time when used as a buildd | 13:36 |
| ogra | oh, because i just stopped the VM before | 13:36 |
| lool | and infinity too | 13:36 |
| ogra | i didnt | 13:36 |
| ogra | and it works if i start with init=/bin/bash | 13:37 |
| ogra | but then i'm missing the handfull of services i need | 13:37 |
| lool | then it's something else | 13:37 |
| ogra | its pretty clearly upstart | 13:37 |
| lool | I'm speaking of the sda errors | 13:37 |
| ogra | which i would be fine living without ... | 13:37 |
| ogra | but there is no chance to exec initscripts without it anymore | 13:37 |
| wrapster | ogra: and just write the version no there? like say * 1.6.2 | 13:54 |
| ogra | no | 13:56 |
| wrapster | ogra: http://pastie.org/625551 have a look at this.. is it a makefile issue or because i've not updated the changelog properly? | 13:56 |
| ogra | the version should already be in the top line | 13:56 |
| ogra | that has nothing to do with dch -i | 13:57 |
| wrapster | hmm a broken makefile you say? | 13:58 |
| ogra | no, probably a codepiece that generates changelog from another file that hasnt been run or something | 14:00 |
| ogra | in any case debian/cpp/usr/share/doc/cpp/changelog doesnt exist | 14:00 |
| ogra | try to find out why | 14:00 |
| ogra | shouldnt be caused by you using dch -i | 14:01 |
| wrapster | yeah its been written in the rules... | 14:01 |
| wrapster | anyway http://pastie.org/625551 i landed up with this.. is it normal to have warnings? | 14:02 |
| james_w | yay pitti! | 14:09 |
| pitti | james_w: what did I break? | 14:09 |
| james_w | do you have bzr branches you would like me to push to bzr.debian.org? | 14:09 |
| james_w | nothing (I hope) :-) | 14:09 |
| james_w | you uploaded bzr et. al. | 14:09 |
| pitti | james_w: no, I didn't; those were two syncs and two trivial package updates | 14:09 |
| pitti | most of the time was testing and running "make check", etc. | 14:09 |
| pitti | well, bzr itself has some path changes | 14:10 |
| james_w | well, I was pulling my hair out on Friday about the bzr.install change | 14:10 |
| pitti | james_w: for the doc translations? | 14:10 |
| james_w | yeah | 14:10 |
| pitti | I just updated it in the .install file | 14:10 |
| james_w | I changed the paths in that file and it FTBFS | 14:10 |
| james_w | I was blaming CDBS | 14:11 |
| james_w | it wasn't running "setup.py install" before dh_install | 14:11 |
| james_w | but at least it is done now | 14:11 |
| pitti | weird, built fine here | 14:11 |
| pitti | and on the buildds too | 14:11 |
| james_w | yeah | 14:12 |
| james_w | ah, that was it, I was doing the PPA packages first, which have a -doc package split | 14:12 |
| pitti | james_w: ah, perhaps it's not run on -B ? | 14:12 |
| wrapster | pitti: are you referring to me? | 14:12 |
| james_w | it was running "setup.py install" after dh_install for arch-all packages but before arch-any | 14:13 |
| james_w | no, I'd only got as far as my local pbuilder | 14:13 |
| pitti | wrapster: no, I wasn't actually; what do you mean? | 14:13 |
| james_w | I should have focused on the Debian/Ubuntu packages first | 14:13 |
| james_w | anyway, thanks again | 14:13 |
| pitti | my pleasure | 14:13 |
| wrapster | pitti: anyway.. so did you go through the pastie? | 14:13 |
| pitti | well, it was a mail in my ubuntu folder, and they are pestering me :) | 14:14 |
| pitti | wrapster: http://pastie.org/625551 ? that looks very complicated; you usually don't call -genchanges manually | 14:14 |
| pitti | just do debuild or dpkg-buildpackage | 14:15 |
| wrapster | hmm | 14:15 |
| pitti | seb128: FYI, current retracer crash is due to chroot upgrade failure; fixing | 14:17 |
| seb128 | pitti, thanks | 14:18 |
| wrapster | pitti: its all about understanding makefiles.. but im not very good at it.. i only know a little basics.. do you happen to know any links that i can refer? | 14:23 |
| wrapster | for understanding makefiles | 14:23 |
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| pitti | wrapster: I think there should be plenty of tutorials on the web | 14:25 |
| StevenK | The info page for make has a good overview, but that means reading info pages. :-/ | 14:26 |
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| dholbach | seb128: hum... got any reports that gdm is not starting properly? | 14:32 |
| seb128 | dholbach, no | 14:32 |
| seb128 | or some | 14:32 |
| seb128 | but usually those are xorg driver issues or the xorg server crashing or upstart | 14:33 |
| dholbach | seb128: I just started the machine and just had the black login screen (up-to-date from around 10 UTC), then dist-upgraded to the newest versions, rebooted, same resulted | 14:33 |
| dholbach | sudo restart gdm started gdm | 14:33 |
| dholbach | now I'll try booting it again | 14:33 |
| seb128 | I didn't update today yet | 14:34 |
| seb128 | and didn't read about those | 14:34 |
| seb128 | but you might be an earlier upgrader, I will keep an eye for bugs about that | 14:34 |
| dholbach | ah... ctrl-alt-f7 gets me to gdm too | 14:35 |
| dholbach | just the regular boot doesn't get me there | 14:35 |
| dholbach | *shrug* | 14:35 |
| ogra | buy more consoles ... | 14:35 |
| seb128 | maybe pitti knows better about those sort of issues | 14:35 |
| ogra | we sell them cheap in the ubuntu shop ;) | 14:35 |
| dholbach | ogra: I need to wait for my pay cheque, I guess :) | 14:35 |
| ogra | heh | 14:36 |
| dholbach | ogra: do you have an idea about bug 129769? | 14:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 129769 in xscreensaver "newly installed xscreensaver errors without /usr/share/backgrounds" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129769 | 14:37 |
| ogra | dholbach, i think cjwatson just uploaded/sponsored a fix | 14:37 |
| dholbach | oh ok | 14:37 |
| dholbach | nm | 14:37 |
| dholbach | lalala :) | 14:37 |
| ogra | :) | 14:37 |
| uni4dfx | hello, my karmic doesn't wanna boot anymore | 14:49 |
| uni4dfx | dmesg complains about some "Firmware Bug" | 14:49 |
| tormod | uni4dfx: like not fatal. how far does it boot? | 14:50 |
| tormod | likely not fatal | 14:50 |
| uni4dfx | i can login | 14:50 |
| uni4dfx | but there's no X | 14:50 |
| uni4dfx | and most of the modules aren't loaded | 14:50 |
| tormod | uni4dfx: fully updated? | 14:51 |
| uni4dfx | probably not, last time i updated was 2 days ago | 14:52 |
| uni4dfx | and it didn't wanna update anyway since it got into some errors | 14:52 |
| tormod | uni4dfx: ubuntu+1 is a better channel for this | 14:52 |
| sandy|lurk | Hi, there appears to be some ancient automatic import from Tomboy SVN (we moved to git six months ago) to Launchpad here: https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/tomboy/head | 14:52 |
| uni4dfx | good point | 14:52 |
| sandy|lurk | I'm not sure if I should file a bug or what | 14:52 |
| sandy|lurk | but what I'd like is to either get rid of it (it's misleading) or have it pull from git master | 14:53 |
| Laney | sandy|lurk: you should talk to someone in #launchpad about it | 14:53 |
| sandy|lurk | Laney: will do, thanks | 14:53 |
| cjwatson | sandy|lurk: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-bazaar is the way we ask for changes there | 14:54 |
| jelmer | pitti: thanks for updating bzr-svn for karmic! | 14:54 |
| pitti | jelmer: no problem; it was mainly testing that the Debian experimental package works :) | 14:55 |
| sandy|lurk | cjwatson: ok, take care folks | 14:55 |
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| uni4dfx | any idea what module the ULi 1689,1573 integrated ethernet device uses? | 15:00 |
| jjardon | pitti, good news, evolution doesn't depends on HAL now: http://git.gnome.org/cgit/evolution/commit/?id=5a80f92d37e7e8a814f70f826b7b33f5d21b0f72 :) | 15:17 |
| pitti | jjardon: cool! | 15:19 |
| pitti | jjardon: did that land in 2.28.x still? or just trunk? | 15:19 |
| jjardon | I think only trunk, 2.28 will be released in few days ;). Also in https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594006 said 2.29 | 15:21 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 594006 in Plugins "[regression] ipod-sync plugin build fails" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] | 15:21 |
| jjardon | but maybe could be backported to 2.28 | 15:22 |
| pitti | jjardon: right; should be fine then, there's no real hurry; we need hal for X in karmic anyway | 15:22 |
| jjardon | pitti, Xorg devels added the bug I reported to the xorg 7.6 blocker list: http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23462 | 15:24 |
| ubottu | Freedesktop bug 23462 in Input/Core "Remove HAL dependency" [Normal,New] | 15:24 |
| pitti | jjardon: oh, *phew*; the upstream bug didn't move very far recently | 15:24 |
| jjardon | nope :(, I'd like to help but I'm not a xorg expert ;) | 15:26 |
| lool | kirkland: Hey do you mind if I do some relatively large cleanups to qemu-kvm's rules? | 15:37 |
| ttx | slangasek: what's the status on publication of ec2-version-query to a more appropriate place ? | 15:51 |
| LaserJock | james_w: what'd the difference between the DMB and MC? | 16:04 |
| maco | dmb? | 16:04 |
| james_w | as I understand it the DMB and the MC are likely to merge under archive-reorg | 16:04 |
| james_w | maco: developer membership board | 16:04 |
| maco | ah | 16:04 |
| james_w | the TB is splitting off their developer approval role from their technical oversight role | 16:04 |
| james_w | much as the CC did | 16:04 |
| LaserJock | james_w: ah, OK, I wondered with the reorg what the difference would be, makes sense that they'd merge | 16:05 |
| james_w | I don't think it's decided, but to many people I believe it is the logical step | 16:05 |
| pitti | cjwatson, dholbach, james_w: also, DMB would only approve "core" developers and other generalists (what MOTU are today), but many contributors will probably just stay in one particular team like mythbuntu, right? | 16:06 |
| pitti | IOW, the number of applicants should actually go down? | 16:06 |
| james_w | that's my understanding | 16:06 |
| pitti | for DMB? | 16:06 |
| james_w | well, the absolute number might go up :-) | 16:07 |
| LaserJock | is "core" developer defined under the new scheme? | 16:07 |
| maco | james_w: and that might be a good thing | 16:07 |
| LaserJock | my understanding was more along the lines of Core Dev getting split up into team upload rights and MOTU largely becoming generalists | 16:07 |
| maco | i thought there could be per-package-uploaders that werent also motu in the new thing. but then, im rather confused by the archive reorg stuff | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | LaserJock: generalist is just a new word (which personally I don't like) for core-dev | 16:08 |
| cjwatson | (I can't see people going around proudly wearing a badge saying "Ubuntu Generalist Developer") | 16:09 |
| cjwatson | (well, not sure I can see that for core either, but it seems a bit more likely :-) ) | 16:09 |
| maco | haha | 16:09 |
| LaserJock | yes | 16:09 |
| LaserJock | so then MOTU either get "promoted" or get upload-access through a specific team? | 16:10 |
| maco | cjwatson: i think a core dev badge would just make random people off the street yelling at you about their pet bug more likely :P | 16:10 |
| highvoltage | hi LaserJock | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | LaserJock: something like that, over time, yes | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | LaserJock: we've started mail conversations with all current MOTU already | 16:10 |
| cjwatson | though need to do a bit more with the results :) | 16:11 |
| LaserJock | right | 16:11 |
| LaserJock | although not a lot has been said to Core Devs | 16:11 |
| LaserJock | presumably the status doesn't change much | 16:11 |
| LaserJock | although our available set of packages we have upload access gets smaller? | 16:12 |
| * LaserJock never remembers if "generalist" access is lower or higher "priority" than team access | 16:13 | |
| geser | LaserJock: only if you're interested in some special packages, like kernel or eglibc (don't know which packages end in the restricted set) | 16:13 |
| soren | pitti: Hey. About https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/redhat-cluster/+bug/429834 | 16:14 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 429834 in redhat-cluster "FFE: Please sync redhat-cluster 3.0.2-2ubuntu1 (main) from PPA" [Undecided,New] | 16:14 |
| soren | pitti: I'm wondering why you approved it, but didn't sync it? | 16:14 |
| pitti | soren: it needs manual uploading, didn't get to it | 16:14 |
| pitti | i just acked the FFE | 16:14 |
| soren | pitti: Oh, ok. should I subscribe ubuntu-archive? | 16:15 |
| soren | Or can't it be synced? | 16:15 |
| pitti | oh, I don't know | 16:15 |
| soren | I thought we could sync from anywhere. | 16:15 |
| pitti | I'd just upload it | 16:15 |
| geser | LaserJock: the current core-dev keep upload right to everything (modulo the restricted set), some MOTU get "promoted" to generalist, which give them the same upload rights as core-dev, team upload rights are completely new | 16:15 |
| soren | pitti: Alright. I'll do so. | 16:15 |
| soren | pitti: Thanks. | 16:15 |
| pitti | soren: copy-package.py might be able to do it, didn't check | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | hmm, so the new initramfs-tools means that we expose an X bug again, where it sits munching CPU unless intel_agp was loaded first | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | or possibly unless KMS was brought up first | 16:16 |
| soren | pitti: I wouldn't know. The powers of ubuntu-archive have not been bestowed upon me, so I know little of the syntax copy-package would accept. | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | weird, though, I thought that had been fixed a while back | 16:16 |
| pitti | soren: I was just thinking aloud :) | 16:16 |
| soren | pitti: :) | 16:16 |
| sebner | geser: I have good news and bad news regarding libjgraph0.6-java. What do you want to hear first? ^^ | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | LaserJock: not sure what priority mean | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | s | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | LaserJock: core-dev's available set should remain (very nearly) the entire archive | 16:17 |
| LaserJock | cjwatson: right, that's what I was getting at | 16:17 |
| cjwatson | LaserJock: while we've talked about "restricted sets", I expect their use to be very limited | 16:18 |
| LaserJock | I was wondering if generalists were going to be sort of in-between where they uploaded to everything *but* seeded packages | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | LaserJock: there's a restricted set for language packs, on the grounds that if you upload them then your upload will get automatically overwritten later anyway, and this has always been the case | 16:18 |
| Laney | is the switch on this going to be thrown soonish? | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | people talk about making the kernel and libc restricted, but personally I don't see the need | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | LaserJock: #define generalist ubuntu-core-dev | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | Laney: it actually sort of has been and nobody noticed ;-) | 16:19 |
| Laney | heh | 16:19 |
| cjwatson | Laney: Launchpad now has package set data and can grant upload access to packages in those sets | 16:19 |
| Laney | I mean the dissolving of universe | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | Laney: we're gradually talking about the basics like getting ~ubuntu-desktop upload rights to the desktop set, which is mostly a process thing | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | Laney: changing the component structure of the archive is still some way off | 16:20 |
| cjwatson | and there are still some design things to solve there | 16:20 |
| mdz | cjwatson, the server seed is part of ubuntu, while most other derivatives are separate, no? | 16:21 |
| mdz | is that still the right setup? | 16:21 |
| wrapster | supposing the rule file contains only the include directive and no command set.. how do i make changes to the existing pkg? | 16:27 |
| wrapster | http://pastie.org/626056 | 16:27 |
| wrapster | have a look at that..its the rule file of grep.. I need some mods to be done there.. How should i approach it now? | 16:27 |
| mdz | soren, the current manifests are machine parseable | 16:31 |
| cjwatson | mdz: I've thought about splitting it out a few times, which probably ought to happen, but I don't think it's all that important or urgent | 16:31 |
| soren | mdz: That's exactly why I'm not sure how to include this information in there. | 16:32 |
| soren | mdz: The command line to build the image doesn't naturally fit into a "packagename version" sort of format :) | 16:32 |
| cjwatson | wrapster: you'll have to look at what is laughingly referred to as CDBS's documentation | 16:32 |
| soren | mdz: I'll work something out.. | 16:32 |
| soren | Hahah! | 16:32 |
| cjwatson | wrapster: there's some stuff in /usr/share/doc/cdbs/ | 16:32 |
| mdz | cjwatson, soren is looking for a sensible way to record which version of vmbuilder was used to create each UEC image | 16:33 |
| cjwatson | wrapster: you should familiarise yourself with debhelper first ('man debhelper', and chase references), since in many cases changes can be made by editing debhelper files | 16:33 |
| wrapster | cjwatson: ok.. but i dont have cdbs under the dir you specified | 16:34 |
| geser | sebner: start with the bad news | 16:34 |
| soren | Well... Not just the VMBuilder version. That's reasonably easy (although slightly misleading if put in the manifest next to everything else), but more the command line used to build the image. | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | wrapster: how do you normally install packages? :-) | 16:34 |
| sebner | geser: ok, the bad news are now strange news xD | 16:34 |
| wrapster | dpkg -i <pkg> | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | wrapster: consider installing cdbs ... ;-) | 16:34 |
| cjwatson | wrapster: that would normally be a prerequisite for reading its documentation | 16:34 |
| wrapster | ok | 16:35 |
| james_w | soren: just "# vmbuilder ..." ? | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | soren: how parseable does it need to be? | 16:35 |
| soren | cjwatson: You tell me. | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | soren: could you just spit it out in the log, and save that somewhere? | 16:35 |
| geser | sebner: then start with the strange news before they change again | 16:35 |
| soren | cjwatson: I've never really used these manifests for much. | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | soren: *shrug* *I* won't be using it | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | what manifests are these? | 16:35 |
| cjwatson | (url) | 16:35 |
| sebner | geser: synced new package, removed old one. Replace b-d and cdk FTBFS. Then I used libjgraph0.6-java-link as b-d and this works now. And it also pulls in libjgraph-java but version 5.12.2.1.dfsg-1 , seems to be a different package xD | 16:36 |
| soren | cjwatson: http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/karmic/20090922/ubuntu-uec-karmic-i386.manifest [+] | 16:36 |
| soren | -[+] | 16:36 |
| cjwatson | so that's a derivative of the live filesystem manifest | 16:36 |
| cjwatson | which is automatically parsed in a way that may or may not handle comments, I don't remember | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | although the UEC one is not automatically parsed, it's purely informational | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | if it's useful to put comments in the manifest, I don't see a reason not to | 16:37 |
| cjwatson | ah yes, the only code that parses manifests (ubiquity) handles comments, so *shrug* | 16:37 |
| soren | automatically parsed by what? | 16:38 |
| geser | sebner: you didn't miss the 't'? there is libgraph-java and libjgraph*t*-java | 16:38 |
| soren | Oh, ubiquity. | 16:38 |
| cjwatson | yeah, not that it parses UEC manifests, as I say | 16:38 |
| soren | Right, right. | 16:38 |
| soren | Obviously :) | 16:38 |
| sebner | geser: ah, just noticed! xD I'm sorry. But anyways. Replace libjgrapht-java with libjgrapht0.6-java didn't work. I had to use the -link package (which pulls in 0.6-java also) | 16:39 |
| cjwatson | but if you're borrowing its format anyway ... | 16:39 |
| soren | cjwatson: Alright, I'll use a comment. That makes sense. | 16:39 |
| cjwatson | the only real alternative would be to put it in a file inside the image somehow | 16:39 |
| cjwatson | that sounds harder to inspect though | 16:39 |
| geser | sebner: and what are the good news then? | 16:39 |
| soren | It's already there, actually. | 16:39 |
| soren | I put the build log inside the images. | 16:40 |
| soren | Well, as much as I can, since part of the magic happens after the filesystem is finalised, but still. | 16:40 |
| sebner | geser: New package sycned over and old one finally removed ^^ | 16:40 |
| sebner | geser: I'm sorry, this all sounds a little bit stupid xD , As I said cdk built locally but I uploaded to my PPA (start time 1 hour :( ) to be really sure the problem is solved now | 16:45 |
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| mdz | smoser, what's the EC2_URL used for EC2 itself (with euca2ools)? | 17:00 |
| smoser | EC2_URL=https://ec2.amazonaws.com | 17:01 |
| smoser | the environment you have to set for amazon use is: | 17:02 |
| smoser | EC2_SECRET_KEY=${aws_secret_key} EC2_ACCESS_KEY=${aws_access_key} EC2_URL=https://ec2.amazonaws.com | 17:02 |
| mdz | smoser, thanks | 17:02 |
| smoser | one thingto note, i could be under-informed on this, is that euca2ools require exporting your aws access key and aws secret key | 17:03 |
| mdz | smoser, I think I have everything set up correctly now, but euca-describe-instances is hanging for a long time | 17:03 |
| smoser | the ec2 tools require exporting a path to certificate file and path to private key. | 17:03 |
| mdz | smoser, yes, I noticed that, but I don't understand why | 17:03 |
| mdz | smoser, could you ask nurmi_ to join here so we can discuss? | 17:03 |
| smoser | just did | 17:04 |
| smoser | there is nurmi_ . | 17:06 |
| smoser | above, i had said | 17:06 |
| smoser | the environment you have to set for amazon use is: EC2_SECRET_KEY=${aws_secret_key} EC2_ACCESS_KEY=${aws_access_key} EC2_URL=https://ec2.amazonaws.com | 17:06 |
| smoser | one thingto note, i could be under-informed on this, is that euca2ools require exporting your aws access key and aws secret key | 17:06 |
| smoser | mdz, i just verified that | 17:07 |
| smoser | EC2_SECRET_KEY=${aws_secret_key} EC2_ACCESS_KEY=${aws_access_key} EC2_URL=https://ec2.amazonaws.com euca-describe-instances | 17:07 |
| smoser | is working for me. | 17:07 |
| smoser | nurmi_, do you know why that difference ? | 17:07 |
| soren | Sorry, what's the difference? | 17:08 |
| smoser | between environment for euca- versus ec2- | 17:08 |
| smoser | euca2ools require exporting aws access key and secret key. the ec2 tools require exporting a path to certificate file and path to private key. | 17:08 |
| nurmi_ | smoser: the ec2 tools use the SOAP interface (x509 credentials) | 17:09 |
| nurmi_ | smoser; the eucatools use the REST interface (secret/query key) | 17:09 |
| soren | So they're not CLI compatible? | 17:09 |
| soren | People who've set their environment variables according to ec2-api-tools will not be able to use euca-tools without changing stuff. | 17:10 |
| soren | Right? | 17:10 |
| smoser | so choice of rest over soap dictated the difference in credentials being needed. | 17:10 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: so vmbuilder doesn't really support preseeding | 17:10 |
| nurmi_ | soren: it depends on how you use the tools | 17:10 |
| soren | nurmi_: How so? | 17:11 |
| nurmi_ | soren: for example, the AMI tools from amazon use the REST stuff | 17:11 |
| soren | nurmi_: Ok.. | 17:11 |
| nurmi_ | soren: so, if you have your environment set up to use both EC2 API and EC2 AMI tools, then there is no change to use eucatools | 17:11 |
| nurmi_ | if you ONLY use EC2 tools, then you environment might not be sufficient for eucatools, as we need the REST crednetials (as does AMI tools) | 17:11 |
| soren | I see. | 17:12 |
| Laney | I think I am stuck in a redirect loop after submitting my UDS sponsorship | 17:15 |
| Laney | can someone check if it worked? | 17:15 |
| cjwatson | kirkland: ... | 17:16 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: sorry, too many pots on the stove right now | 17:17 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: the moodle package has a series of "critical" debconf questions in its config | 17:18 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i'd like to create a PPA package that set these values to something "sane", and depend on moodle, such that it gets installed | 17:19 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: call it "moodle-appliance" or something | 17:19 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: but "depends" means that moodle would get installed first | 17:20 |
| cjwatson | I would recommend against attempting to do preseeding from a package | 17:20 |
| cjwatson | everyone I've ever seen trying to do this ran up against lots of roadblocks and ended up wasting lots of time | 17:20 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: yes, that's where i am | 17:20 |
| cjwatson | preseeding is intended for admins and as such it doesn't work well when you try to do it from a package | 17:20 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i've wasted several days on this | 17:20 |
| cjwatson | why not just have vmbuilder preseed stuff itself? | 17:20 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: feature request for vmbuilder | 17:21 |
| LaserJock | kirkland: you're just stuck on moodle or are there others? | 17:21 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: i think there's a bug alreay | 17:21 |
| cjwatson | understood, but it's the only sane approach | 17:21 |
| kirkland | cjwatson: okay, thanks for the feedback | 17:21 |
| soren | Laney: url? | 17:21 |
| Laney | soren: url to what? http://summit.ubuntu.com/ | 17:22 |
| soren | Laney: Oh, never mind. I don't have access to that, i think. | 17:23 |
| lool | kirkland: Heym I need to butcher the qemu-kvm rules heavily to fix the static build | 17:23 |
| lool | kirkland: Hope you dont mind | 17:23 |
| kirkland | lool: please, and thank you! | 17:23 |
| lool | kirkland: Do you mind if I do further cleanups after that? | 17:24 |
| kirkland | lool: go for it | 17:24 |
| lool | Ok thanks | 17:24 |
| ion | !summon Keybuk | 17:24 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about summon Keybuk | 17:24 |
| kirkland | lool: i'll review all of them afterward | 17:24 |
| lool | Ok | 17:24 |
| ogra | ion ++ | 17:25 |
| mdz | smoser, nurmi_, I'm trying to set everything up from scratch for EC2 using only euca2ools | 17:28 |
| mdz | basically following the starter's guide with s/ec2/euca/ | 17:28 |
| smoser | mdz, http://wiki.debian.org/euca2ools got me going on euca2ools. | 17:29 |
| mdz | smoser, I'm able to create an instance, but I'm not able to login | 17:30 |
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| soren | mdz: You've created a keypair and specified it on the euca-run-instances command line? | 17:31 |
| mdz | soren, 83 euca-run-instances ami-fa658593 --key ${EC2_KEYPAIR} --instance-type m1.small | 17:32 |
| mdz | atomicity:[~/ec2] euca-describe-instances |grep keypair | 17:32 |
| mdz | INSTANCEi-ef0fdb87ami-fa658593ec2-174-129-129-26.compute-1.amazonaws.comdomU-12-31-39-04-35-05.compute-1.internalrunning ec2-keypair 0 m1.small 2009-09-22T16:20:38.000Z us-east-1a aki-841efeed ari-9a1efef3 | 17:32 |
| soren | mdz: Looks accurate enough to me. And you're connecting as "ubuntu"? | 17:32 |
| smoser | mdz, and EC2_KEYPAIR is the name associated ? | 17:33 |
| mdz | smoser, EC2_KEYPAIR=ec2-keypair | 17:33 |
| mdz | atomicity:[~/ec2] ssh -i ec2-keypair.pem ec2-174-129-129-26.compute-1.amazonaws.com | 17:33 |
| mdz | Received disconnect from 174.129.129.26: 2: Too many authentication failures for mdz | 17:33 |
| smoser | well, you can't get in as mdz | 17:34 |
| mdz | (which is trying all keys from my ssh-agent) | 17:34 |
| mdz | smoser, ah, of course, heh | 17:34 |
| mdz | it would be nice if keypairs had a username associated | 17:34 |
| smoser | hm... can you do that in a .ssh/config ? | 17:36 |
| smoser | obviously you could set up all connections to *.compute.amazonaws.com to be ubuntu@ | 17:36 |
| mdz | smoser, that's a good idea | 17:36 |
| jpds | Laney: It worked, and that's a known problem. | 17:38 |
| jpds | Laney: Check http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-l/sponsorship/ - or chase jcastro. | 17:40 |
| jcastro | Laney: you're in the system | 17:40 |
| lool | smoser: Sure, username | 17:44 |
| lool | e.g. I have: | 17:44 |
| lool | Host git.videolan.org User git | 17:44 |
| lool | Argh, on two lines but you get hte idea | 17:44 |
| smoser | lool, i knew you could do it by host. i was wondering if you could tie a key to a username | 17:45 |
| smoser | but i dont think so. it'd be strange. | 17:45 |
| mdz | smoser, I'm still seeing bug 427288 in the alpha 6 AMI | 17:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 427288 in vm-builder "Karmic i386 EC2 kernel emulating unsupported memory accesses" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427288 | 17:46 |
| mdz | smoser, judging by the comments, I thought it was fixed | 17:46 |
| smoser | mdz, you're seeing (i think) bug 432718 | 17:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 432718 in dbus "dbus programs will not use nosegneg libraries" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432718 | 17:47 |
| cjwatson | smoser: you can't, because ssh can present several keys or none, and it doesn't start presenting them - and therefore know which one will work - until after it's already made the initial auth request including the username | 17:48 |
| smoser | and soren was going to upload vmbuilder so i could make the emulation bug fixed-released. | 17:48 |
| smoser | cjwatson, yeah, i didn't think so. it didn't make a lot of sense. | 17:48 |
| smoser | mdz, does that look right ? ie you're seeing complaint about dbus ? | 17:49 |
| mdz | pitti, is it possible to have apport-cli print out the URL rather than launching w3m in server installs? | 17:53 |
| pitti | mdz: there's a wishlist bug for that; for now it is only possible to save the report and copy it to another machine | 17:54 |
| cjwatson | does it follow the BROWSER environment variable spec? | 17:54 |
| cjwatson | (or use sensible-browser) | 17:54 |
| pitti | cjwatson: xdg-open, it should | 17:54 |
| cjwatson | BROWSER=echo apport-cli? :-) | 17:54 |
| mvo | dear network-manager, please keep your hands off my /etc/resolv.conf | 17:56 |
| pitti | cjwatson: hm, doesn't seem to work :-( | 17:57 |
| Amaranth | mvo: agreed | 17:57 |
| Amaranth | Or at least don't add these stupid search lines | 17:57 |
| mvo | yeah | 17:59 |
| mdz | cjwatson, heh, that's probably worth a try | 18:00 |
| mdz | oh, pitti tried | 18:00 |
| mdz | I end up just suspending w3m and copy/pasting the URL from ps | 18:00 |
| cjwatson | or hit u in w3m? | 18:00 |
| mdz | if we want to strongly encourage ubuntu-bug for servers (and we do), I think we should do something about this | 18:00 |
| cjwatson | or do you need to get it before redirection? | 18:00 |
| mdz | cjwatson, screen size defeats me often when doing that | 18:01 |
| cjwatson | = then | 18:01 |
| mdz | the url is the correct one, but doesn't fit | 18:01 |
| mdz | didn't know about = | 18:01 |
| mdz | smoser, FYI I filed bug 434755 about some kernel dependency changes which are needed for ec2 | 18:01 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 434755 in linux-ec2 "ec2 kernel has unnecessary dependencies" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434755 | 18:01 |
| smoser | grub ? | 18:03 |
| smoser | thanks mdz. | 18:04 |
| sebner | Who has archive admins duties currently? | 18:07 |
| ScottK | Today is Riddell's day. | 18:10 |
| Riddelll | it's my very special day | 18:10 |
| sebner | Riddell: you remember libjgraph0.6-java right? | 18:10 |
| mdz | smoser, maybe a better solution, rather than trying to provide ec2-* names for euca2ools, would be to add those higher level CLI tools we've been talking about | 18:10 |
| mdz | e.g. "start an instance using the current stable Ubuntu AMI" | 18:11 |
| Riddelll | sebner: mm hmm | 18:11 |
| mdz | those would wrap euca2ools and wouldn't need to worry about CLI compatibility | 18:11 |
| mdz | nurmi_, ^^ | 18:11 |
| smoser | which would still require setting up *some* environment that could then provide other tools with the needed data. | 18:11 |
| mdz | smoser, I'd like to work on minimizing the environment setup as well | 18:12 |
| mdz | there are a lot of steps | 18:12 |
| sebner | Riddelll: The synced source (by jdstrand) went to multiverse (again) which is the reason why we removed the old libjgraph-java package. Will move it to universe. Something went totally wrong | 18:12 |
| smoser | erichammond's largest issue is with existing code that already works. | 18:12 |
| mdz | a standardized configuration file would be much friendlier than a bunch of environment variable settings | 18:12 |
| smoser | mdz, i agree. | 18:12 |
| mdz | sane defaults would be even better | 18:12 |
| Riddelll | sebner: what do you want me to do? | 18:12 |
| smoser | the xc2 that i've pointed you at has a config file that it reads | 18:13 |
| sebner | Riddell: move it from multiverse to universe | 18:13 |
| smoser | i dont really know how you'd come up with a sane default for your amazon secret key... :) | 18:13 |
| Riddelll | sebner: move libjgrapht-java? I just deleted it | 18:14 |
| smoser | but some of the others could be done | 18:14 |
| sebner | Riddelll: no, you missunderstood. move libjgrapht0.6-java | 18:14 |
| sebner | Riddell: libjgrapht-java was the old package (split over multiverse and universe) so I synced the new package and let you remove the old one. But the new one moved to multiverse instead of universe (don't know what went wrong) | 18:15 |
| Riddelll | sebner: done | 18:19 |
| ScottK | Riddelll: I just accepted moodbar back into the archive (the reason it was removed is no longer applicable). I expect it's on the sync blacklist and should be removed. Would you mind looking into it? | 18:20 |
| sebner | Riddelll: Thank you very much =) | 18:20 |
| pitti | ScottK, Riddelll: moodbar unblacklisted | 18:21 |
| ScottK | pitti: Thanks. | 18:21 |
| Riddelll | that explains why I can't see it in there :) | 18:21 |
| ogra | could someone sync ltsp-docs from debian ? | 18:21 |
| ogra | its new and holds the upstream documentation, no deps afaik | 18:21 |
| Riddelll | ogra: ok | 18:22 |
| ogra | thanks :) | 18:22 |
| Riddelll | ogra: all done | 18:22 |
| * ogra hugs Riddelll | 18:23 | |
| ogra | when did you earn the third l btw ? | 18:23 |
| Riddelll | when the server I used got moved but then the old one came back to life, so there are two of me now :( | 18:23 |
| ogra | meh | 18:23 |
| * Riddelll eyes up sladen | 18:24 | |
| LaserJock | everybody always knew that more Riddell's would be a good thing :-) | 18:26 |
| ogra | if he only could delegate more work to the others ;) | 18:27 |
| asomething | ScottK: Thanks accepting moodbar | 18:27 |
| ScottK | asomething: No problem. We only had it removed because it didn't appear useful anymore. | 18:28 |
| ogra | "udevd[392]: specified group 'fuse' unknown" ... why do i see that in a VM installing ubuntu-desktop but not in a chroot doing the exact same | 18:29 |
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| tormod | what is running hdparm (twice?) at boot (I have disabled acpi-support) | 22:03 |
| kees | james_w: I've attached a patch to bug 307019 for gnome-about-me; should be easy to call that now. | 22:43 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 307019 in gnome-control-center "ecryptfs Private directory not mounted after changing password in users-admin" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/307019 | 22:43 |
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| james_w | kees: neat, thanks | 23:02 |
| seb128 | kees, his, feel free to commit and upload your gnome-control-center change | 23:04 |
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| ian_brasil | just got a django debug output from an error on http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-l | 23:56 |
| ian_brasil | change DEBUG = False in settings.py ..that info should not be available to all | 23:57 |
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