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| lool | njpatel: Hey | 09:33 |
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| lool | njpatel: I noticed a serious issue this morning | 09:33 |
| lool | njpatel: netbook-launcher doesn't ship any gconf schemas | 09:33 |
| lool | njpatel: so a) are you aware of places where you do stuff like gconf_unset -- these would be broken and we could look at revisiting associated bugs | 09:34 |
| lool | njpatel: b) is is possible to use libnetbook-launcher without netbook-launcher installed? | 09:34 |
| tsoncul | lool: just out of curiosity, would a) cause gnome-panel to stick around after switching from Classic to Netbook mode? | 09:39 |
| lool | tsoncul: That's one of the bugs I'm looking at | 09:40 |
| lool | tsoncul: Perhaps not since the gnome-panel schema is properly installed | 09:40 |
| tsoncul | lool: OK, just wanted to tell that it's happening | 09:40 |
| tsoncul | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/desktop-switcher/+bug/434447 | 09:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 434447 in desktop-switcher "Desktop switcher won't disable gnome-panel when changing from classic to netbook mode" [Undecided,New] | 09:40 |
| lool | tsoncul: AFAIK everything panel and gconf related should work fine | 09:41 |
| tsoncul | lool: Well, right now I can't go back to netbook-launcher mode. The panel isn't disabled, so the topmost part of the screen can't be seen | 09:43 |
| lool | tsoncul: Do you know paste.ubuntu.com? Could you paste the output of gconftool-2 -R /apps/panel to it? | 09:43 |
| lool | There's a command which can help with it | 09:44 |
| tsoncul | sure | 09:44 |
| tsoncul | hold on | 09:44 |
| davmor2 | lool: I'm having a mobile day today so KNE and UNR anything specific you'd like me to look at? | 09:44 |
| lool | tsoncul: http://people.canonical.com/~cjwatson/ubuntu-paste | 09:44 |
| lool | davmor2: yes, we added a bunch of new apps to UNR | 09:44 |
| davmor2 | lool: no worries | 09:45 |
| lool | davmor2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/275733/ | 09:45 |
| lool | davmor2: That would be the latest changes in the contents; would be nice to focus on whether these cause regressions and whether these work decently | 09:45 |
| lool | davmor2: I also added usb-creator | 09:45 |
| njpatel | lool: probably not, as it depends on some images that are part of the netbook-launcher package | 09:46 |
| lool | njpatel: So it's ok if I ship the gconf schema in netbook-launcher then; thanks | 09:46 |
| njpatel | yep | 09:46 |
| lool | njpatel: So it seems desktop-switcher will cause us trouble again | 09:46 |
| njpatel | lool: how come? | 09:46 |
| lool | njpatel: It has a copy of the default settings which we changed in unr-default-settings' packaging | 09:46 |
| lool | And desktop-switcher's values are out of date | 09:47 |
| tsoncul | lool: I have paste.ubuntu.com/275735 | 09:47 |
| lool | Plus we're getting reports that it doesn't work properly | 09:47 |
| njpatel | lool: of course...we need to change that into a separate session :( | 09:47 |
| lool | tsoncul: Can you put a screenshot somewhere? You have two panels or what's the issue exactly? | 09:48 |
| lool | njpatel: I dont think this will happen for karmic though | 09:48 |
| njpatel | right | 09:48 |
| tsoncul | lool: I'm taking a screenshot now | 09:48 |
| lool | njpatel: Not if I'm the one doing it at least -- I welcome the change but cant put the hours to implement it in time before beta or release | 09:48 |
| lool | njpatel: I think we're better off living with d-s this cycle and fixing the top issues and having a spec about dropping it next cycle | 09:49 |
| lool | And using separate sessions | 09:49 |
| njpatel | lool: that makes sense | 09:49 |
| lool | njpatel: I think for instance maximus continues to be running -- but not doing anything -- in classic mode | 09:49 |
| lool | njpatel: How shall we fix d-s this cycle? do you folks have time to resync the d-s data files with the current Ubuntu Desktop Edition defaults and ubuntu-netbook-remix-default-settings defaults? | 09:50 |
| njpatel | lool: yes, is there a bug for that | 09:51 |
| njpatel | ? | 09:51 |
| lool | There are a couple of symptom bugs | 09:51 |
| lool | But not one describing that | 09:51 |
| lool | I can file one now | 09:51 |
| tsoncul | lool: the screenshot you asked for is at LP:#434447 | 09:51 |
| lool | njpatel: TBH I feel it's more of a packager's job but some configs are in the d-s code or in data files in the tarball; also I'm a bit out of time on UNR this cycle | 09:52 |
| njpatel | lool: can you milestone those bugs for beta freeze, so I remember them (i've added this to my todo anyway) | 09:52 |
| lool | njpatel: Yes | 09:52 |
| njpatel | thanks | 09:52 |
| lool | 434530 | 09:54 |
| lool | tsoncul: Can you open a terminal and run some commands for me? | 09:57 |
| tsoncul | sure | 09:58 |
| lool | tsoncul: Do you mind wiping your panel config? | 09:58 |
| tsoncul | not at all | 09:58 |
| lool | gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel | 09:58 |
| lool | gconftool-2 --load /usr/share/desktop-switcher/netbook-panel-config.xml | 09:58 |
| lool | Not sure about that last path | 09:58 |
| lool | Yeah it's correct | 09:59 |
| tsoncul | yeah | 09:59 |
| tsoncul | I could tab-complete it | 09:59 |
| lool | tsoncul: killall gnome-panel | 09:59 |
| lool | tsoncul: Does that help? | 09:59 |
| tsoncul | lool: no, gnome-panel respawned | 10:00 |
| lool | tsoncul: Still with the classic settings? | 10:00 |
| tsoncul | it's supposed to be netbook now | 10:00 |
| lool | yes | 10:00 |
| tsoncul | it's not exactly classic settings | 10:00 |
| lool | screenshot? | 10:01 |
| tsoncul | the panel is there, but the date, shutdown button, etc are not there | 10:01 |
| lool | Ok | 10:01 |
| lool | tsoncul: That is known | 10:01 |
| tsoncul | and the netbook interface is running where the desktop would be | 10:01 |
| tsoncul | as per the screenshot. | 10:01 |
| lool | tsoncul: Oh sorry you want to switch to classic desktop | 10:01 |
| lool | or to netbook mode? | 10:02 |
| tsoncul | netbook | 10:02 |
| tsoncul | I can do classic | 10:02 |
| lool | So the netbook interface being running is fine | 10:02 |
| tsoncul | I do have to restart, though | 10:02 |
| tsoncul | hold on | 10:02 |
| lool | The lack of buttons might be fixable too | 10:02 |
| lool | run gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel again | 10:02 |
| lool | and killall gnome-panel again | 10:02 |
| tsoncul | hold on, I don't think we're on the same page | 10:02 |
| lool | tsoncul: What's your goal? | 10:02 |
| tsoncul | lool: to go from the classic mode (which works perfectly) to the netbook mode | 10:03 |
| tsoncul | lool: when I do that, (desktop-switcher applet) the cluster-interface appears | 10:03 |
| tsoncul | however, the panels don't go away. | 10:04 |
| lool | tsoncul: Did you install this system from an UNR image? | 10:04 |
| tsoncul | yes | 10:04 |
| tsoncul | karmic-lpha6 | 10:04 |
| lool | karmic or jaunty? | 10:04 |
| lool | ok | 10:04 |
| lool | tsoncul: So gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel | 10:04 |
| lool | killall gnome-panel | 10:05 |
| lool | if that doesn't help I have an idea for something a bit more stable | 10:05 |
| tsoncul | that partially helps, the functionality is there, but the theme isn't correct | 10:05 |
| tsoncul | the dark grey theme (I don't know the new name) isn't here | 10:06 |
| lool | tsoncul: Ok that's easy | 10:07 |
| tsoncul | just change the theme? | 10:07 |
| lool | /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme Dust | 10:07 |
| lool | tsoncul: gconftool-2 -s -t string /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_theme Dust | 10:08 |
| tsoncul | again OK, but now the new monochrome taskbar icons have gone away | 10:08 |
| tsoncul | btw, feel free to stop helping me any time, I don't mind any of these errors | 10:09 |
| lool | tsoncul: gconftool-2 -s -t string /desktop/gnome/interface/icon_theme Humanity | 10:09 |
| tsoncul | just want to let you guys know what's broken, though | 10:09 |
| lool | tsoncul: I'd love if you could include this conversation on the bug report | 10:09 |
| tsoncul | sure | 10:09 |
| lool | tsoncul: Well I think the issue is that the .xml file doesn't exactly overwrite the default gnome-panel settings | 10:09 |
| lool | I dont think it can really work the way we're doing it | 10:09 |
| tsoncul | OK | 10:11 |
| tsoncul | is LP:#434530 a broader-scope version of this? | 10:11 |
| tsoncul | I can mark LP:#434447 as a duplicate of that if it's going to help you put things together | 10:12 |
| lool | tsoncul: Well we dont know for sure | 10:12 |
| lool | tsoncul: Until LP:#434530 is fixed, you'll see strange things when switching desktops | 10:12 |
| lool | But in general I dont think the approach is robust | 10:13 |
| lool | Sadly we cant really fix this for karmic | 10:13 |
| lool | Instead I think we want desktop-switcher to flip the name of the session you want to run and require a logout or reboot | 10:13 |
| tsoncul | That'll probably help keep the settings that are changed to stay changed between flips | 10:14 |
| tsoncul | If I understood you correctly | 10:14 |
| lool | Yes; currently we have a special logic for that but I dont see how it can work sanely | 10:14 |
| tsoncul | Well.. | 10:15 |
| tsoncul | I'm not going to bore you too much, but I really didn't understand the logic behind the code (that I pulled from launchpad) | 10:16 |
| tsoncul | I seemed to me that to go TO classic mode, we ENABLE netbook-launcher | 10:16 |
| tsoncul | I'm not proficient with GNOME, so I really couldn't understand the code itself though | 10:17 |
| lool | tsoncul: Which logic are you looking at? | 10:17 |
| tsoncul | lool: let me dig it out | 10:17 |
| lool | enable_netbook() and enable_classic() do the things you expect in src/main.c in desktop-switcher's source | 10:18 |
| lool | else if (strcmp (switch_to, "classic") == 0) | 10:19 |
| lool | if (!in_classic) | 10:19 |
| lool | current_mode = NETBOOK_MODE; | 10:19 |
| lool | selected_mode = CLASSIC_MODE; | 10:19 |
| lool | enable_classic (); | 10:19 |
| lool | that looks good | 10:19 |
| tsoncul | That looks good, yes. | 10:19 |
| tsoncul | in enable_notebook (void) | 10:20 |
| tsoncul | line 341-342: | 10:20 |
| tsoncul | delete_launcher_autostart_file (LAUNCHER_DESKTOP); | 10:20 |
| tsoncul | delete_launcher_autostart_file (OLD_LAUNCHER_DESKTOP); | 10:20 |
| tsoncul | worried me | 10:20 |
| tsoncul | or am I completely off the ball? | 10:20 |
| lool | tsoncul: That removes a file in .config/autostart/netbook-launcher.desktop | 10:21 |
| lool | tsoncul: By default, launcher will autostart | 10:21 |
| lool | Unless you have such a file which says not to | 10:21 |
| lool | So removing it when switching to netbook mode will cause it to staqrt | 10:21 |
| tsoncul | aha | 10:22 |
| tsoncul | makes much more sense now. | 10:22 |
| tsoncul | yeah, thans. | 10:23 |
| tsoncul | Sorry I can't be of much help with this | 10:23 |
| lool | It's already excellent that you're on IRC and we can debug this live | 10:24 |
| tsoncul | My understanding of GNOME and its friends goes only so far | 10:24 |
| tsoncul | heh | 10:24 |
| tsoncul | I got bit by the "I gotta help 9.10 be good enough not to crash my computer this time" bug | 10:25 |
| lool | that bad! | 10:26 |
| tsoncul | It took me a while to get my eeePC700 in shape when I put 9.04 on it 4 months ago | 10:26 |
| tsoncul | I must say though, Karmic really looks in shape (at least for me) | 10:27 |
| lool | I have a 701SD and it's not really fit for running UNR | 10:33 |
| lool | the screen is too small/the UI is too large | 10:33 |
| tsoncul | Is it a 7''? | 10:34 |
| tsoncul | Yeah, the 8.9' screen is barely enough | 10:37 |
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| eggonlea | hi guys, I met the rootstock bug #431917 and question 83414 as well. it seems that these two bugs haven't any update on LP. | 12:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 431917 in project-rootstock "When creating an image for Karmic, the folder /etc/network is no-existent" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/431917 | 12:00 |
| eggonlea | do you guys have any suggestion to create a fresh Karmic rootfs from scratch? | 12:01 |
| eggonlea | I have to do this because when apt-get update/upgrade, the old Karmic rootfs would encounter some libc GLIBC_PRIVATE symbol missing error. | 12:02 |
| eggonlea | Lots of packages complain that and the rootfs fails to work after the imcomplete upgrade. | 12:03 |
| eggonlea | I'm trying to re-generate a fresh Karmic rootfs as before, but this time it fails because of the bug above. | 12:04 |
| lool | eggonlea: Ping ogra | 12:05 |
| lool | eggonlea: You might want to use #ubutnu-arm though | 12:05 |
| lool | *#ubuntu-arm | 12:05 |
| eggonlea | i see | 12:05 |
| eggonlea | thanks, I'm leaving for there | 12:06 |
| media_savvy | hello all, | 13:47 |
| media_savvy | iam running ubuntu MID on Intel atom with GMA 500 | 13:48 |
| media_savvy | looks really nice , | 13:48 |
| media_savvy | has anyone tied the nbtk toolkit on it ? | 13:49 |
| media_savvy | from here, http://moblin.org/projects/netbook-toolkit-nbtk | 13:49 |
| media_savvy | tied = tried | 13:49 |
| media_savvy | iam not able to run the examples. though clutter runs very well | 13:50 |
| media_savvy | if anyone has been successful, please let me know | 13:50 |
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| face2faceonlinux | hello all | 15:03 |
| face2faceonlinux | where can i find the getting started docs for ubuntu MID APP development | 15:04 |
| face2faceonlinux | iam new to ubuntu mid | 15:04 |
| face2faceonlinux | any pointers would be helpful | 15:04 |
| lool | njpatel: UX team updated software-store bug | 15:10 |
| njpatel | lool: cool, will check it out | 15:19 |
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