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Nokumahello00:04
Nokumaanyone know if ubuntu one is broken in latest ubuntu karmic alpha?00:04
jovin_hi03:21
jovin_anyone getting gnutls error while launching ubuntuone03:45
CardinalFangjovin_, I'm about 30 seconds from sleep, but a more specific question or error message would go farther.04:02
jovin_when i try launching ubuntuone-client-applet04:03
jovin_I get this message "Ohhhh jeeee: operation is not possible without initialized secure memory04:04
jovin_"04:04
jovin_but when run as root using sudo it is all fine04:04
jovin_just by googling I was able to find that it was due to gnutls04:04
jovin_and I don't have any packages other than the default libgnutls04:05
jovin_?04:06
verterokjovin_: I never heard of that error, but if you can file a bug with a  traceback or at least that ^ error message that would be great.04:11
jovin_i am not sure if i should file it under gnutls or ubuntu one04:11
verterokjovin_: btw, you shouldn *never* ever ever run this kind of client software as root ;)04:12
verterokjovin_: are you using SELinux?04:12
jovin_yup..I just wanted to test to see if that is happening04:12
jovin_under root also04:12
jovin_http://bugs.gentoo.org/23509804:13
verterokjovin_: the bug says it fixed in 2.5.,  I have installed 2.8.3-2 (in karmic)04:15
jovin_i am running jaunty04:16
jovin_and it is 2.4.204:16
verterokjovin_: hmm, good point  :)04:17
verterokjovin_: please file a bug! if a newer version of gnutls is needed, it's a bug in ubuntuone for not working on jaunty and if the version of gnutls in jaunty is broken it's a bug in jaunty itself too ;)04:18
jovin_i think ubuntu one should provide an up to date libgnutls,since 9.04 is supported04:18
jovin_I was just filing a bug in jaunty04:18
verterokjovin_: indeed04:18
verterokjovin_: you can file a bug and mark both ubuntuone-client and ubuntu as affected projects04:19
jovin_ok04:19
jovin_will do that04:19
verterokjovin_: thanks!04:19
jovin_ty04:20
jovin_gnutls error is file'd as  a bug04:27
jovin_Launchpad Bug id 43441904:28
verterokjovin_: cool, thanks04:28
verterokubottu: Bug #43441904:28
ubottuLaunchpad bug 434419 in gnutls26 "gnutls:Ohhhh jeeee: operation is not possible without initialized secure memory " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43441904:28
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about Bug #43441904:28
jblountHAMMERTIME08:37
spm**** FYI. Unscheduled outage on ubuntuone.com ETA to restoration unknown at this stage. ****09:14
aquariuscheers spm09:18
Spike1506is ubuntu one down?10:14
Spike1506ohw nvm10:14
=== aquarius changed the topic of #ubuntuone to: File Sharing for Ubuntu | https://ubuntuone.com | https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone | Current Beta Client Revno is 213, Protocol Revno is 71 | Release 0.95.0 (protocol) 0.95.1 (client) <spm> **** FYI. Unscheduled outage on ubuntuone.com ETA to restoration unknown at this stage. ****
spmaquarius: actually it should be fine atm. can you confirm it works for you?10:32
aquariusspm, ok, I hadn't seen a restoration note :)10:35
aquariusspm, ok, I can log in and see my files -- is that what was down?10:35
spmaquarius: it was ESP. you should have felt the positive vibes coming out of australia!10:35
* aquarius grins10:35
=== aquarius changed the topic of #ubuntuone to: File Sharing for Ubuntu | https://ubuntuone.com | https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone | Current Beta Client Revno is 213, Protocol Revno is 71 | Release 0.95.0 (protocol) 0.95.1 (client
=== aquarius changed the topic of #ubuntuone to: File Sharing for Ubuntu | https://ubuntuone.com | https://launchpad.net/ubuntuone | Current Beta Client Revno is 213, Protocol Revno is 71 | Release 0.95.0 (protocol) 0.95.1 (client)
spmaquarius: we had a major woe with a server that handles the web server front end and a few other bits.10:36
aquariusyeah, I saw something went horrid10:36
diverse_izzuei don't quite understand how the couchdb integration with evolution is supposed to work. can i see my contacts in the webfrontend then? are they automatically synched to other machines on that ubuntu one account?11:54
diverse_izzuealso, in the properties of that address book it gives me the options "user local database", "system wide database" and "remote database", kind of cryptic...11:55
aquariusdiverse_izzue, hi13:26
aquariusto answer your questions: yes, yes, and er.13:26
Chipacaaquarius: crikey, that bad, was it?13:27
aquariusdiverse_izzue, we're still working on this, but there will be an Ubuntu One addressbook in Evolution -- contacts in there are stored in your desktop CouchDB, and synchronized to your Ubuntu One account, so you will be able to see those contacts through the web front end13:27
aquariusdiverse_izzue, and of course other machines which are synchronized to that Ubuntu One account will also have the contacts13:28
aquariusdiverse_izzue, most of the stuff is in place for this to happen, but I'm not sure if it's all landed yet13:28
aquariusdiverse_izzue, on the "user local database" stuff, you get to talk to rodrigo_ about that ;-)13:28
rodrigo_diverse_izzue: user local is desktopcouch, system wide is the system wide couchdb, and remote is for entering a url of a couchdb server of your own13:30
rodrigo_diverse_izzue: but latest evo-couchdb package now creates the Ununtu One addressbook by default13:30
aquariusrodrigo_, ah, so that stuff will be less exposed to users? Can it be renamed?13:31
rodrigo_yes, less exposed13:31
rodrigo_and yes, it can be renamed, didn't find a better way though13:31
aquarius"Desktop Couch", "System-wide CouchDB", "URL of remote CouchDB server" ?13:32
rodrigo_yes, looks better :)13:32
diverse_izzuerodrigo_, aquarius, thanks for the answers, and looking forward to seeing the addresses online. is that supposed to happen in the karmic timeframe? also, ideally ubuntuone would mirror the main addressbook to the cloud, not some new additional one that people first have to populate.13:37
rodrigo_yes, it will happen in the karmic timeframe13:39
rodrigo_and yes, it would sync the local evo addressbook with the one in the cloud13:39
diverse_izzuebrilliant13:42
aquariusrodrigo_, the default addressbook? I thought it'd sync the Ubuntu One addressbook only?13:46
dobeyhrmm14:17
rodrigo_aquarius: it would sync what desktopcouch-pair syncs14:55
dobeywell, you can set any of your address books in evolution to be "the default"14:57
aquariusrodrigo_, ah, that's not what I mean -- if the data makes it into couch it'll be synced, sure. But if I have an evolution address book right now, and you add a *second* addressbook, the Ubuntu One addressbook, all my contacts won't be in it14:57
aquariusdiverse_izzue's question seemed to be: will it sync my default, existing addressbook to couchdb (and thence to Ubuntu One), and I don't think it will, unless I've misunderstood14:58
rodrigo_aquarius: ah, sorry then, it won't sync the local evo addressbook, just the ubuntu one14:58
rodrigo_if you want to sync the local addressbook, you can copy the contacts there to the U1 one14:59
dobeyyeah, we don't have migration code14:59
CardinalFangaquarius, thisfred, did you figure out those 401s?  I can confirm that the pre-karmic couchdb does not fail.14:59
thisfredCardinalFang: yeah, didn't fail for aquarius either. Is your system fully upgraded?15:00
thisfredCardinalFang: jdo is seeing the same kind of failures when running make start in ubuntuone-servers though15:00
CardinalFangaquarius, thisfred: $ dpkg -l couchdb-bin |grep ^ii15:00
CardinalFangii  couchdb-bin                                                    0.10.0~svn813472-0ubuntu2                  RESTful document oriented database, programs15:00
aquariusCardinalFang, yeah, I haven't got couchdb-bin at all, I am upgrading now15:01
thisfredCardinalFang: same here15:01
CardinalFangYou will have to remove couchdb package for the moment.15:01
thisfredCardinalFang: I mean same as you15:01
thisfred0.10.0~svn813472-0ubuntu215:01
rodrigo_dobey: migrating should be easy to add, just need to get the local contacts and put them on the couchdb instance15:01
rodrigo_that is, 20/30 lines of code maximum15:01
dobeykey word *should*15:01
vdsisn't it meeting time?15:01
jdoCardinalFang, same here :( Installed: 0.10.0~svn813472-0ubuntu215:02
dobeyas i understand evolution though, the migration stuff is pretty nasty15:02
dobeyvds: make it so15:02
thisfredCardinalFang: aquarius there is more going wrong: it seems not to write the /tmp directories anymore15:03
aquariusgod almighty.15:03
aquariusRight, once I've upgraded the world and rebooted I'll test it all too15:03
CardinalFangjdo, thisfred, aquarius, is that version the one that groks OAuth?  Note, from the PPA, that is a downgrade.15:03
vdsMEETING BEGINS: you know what to do, say "me" to join the meeting15:03
aquariusme15:03
CardinalFangme15:03
rodrigo_me15:03
vdsme15:03
teknicome15:04
vdsaquarius: please15:04
thisfredCardinalFang: huh, really? Why is it downgraded?15:04
aquarius⚀ DONE: much discussion about couch/DC breakage on server with thisfred, jdo; test DC trunk and confirm it works; upgrade to latest version of couchdb-bin (and karmic)15:04
aquarius⚁ TODO: fix UnknownLoginError and make it be known (#376087); make starting up filesharing also add desktopcouch pairing (#430782)15:04
aquarius⚂ BLOCKED:15:04
aquarius⚃ BUG COUNT:https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/~sil/+assignedbugs?field.tag=ubuntuone-karmic - 215:04
aquariuscardinalfang: you're up15:04
dobeyme15:04
CardinalFangaquarius (Jan 20 - Feb 18)  Your status update are beloved by everyone.15:05
CardinalFangDONE: Some packaging.  couchdb bin conflicts.15:05
CardinalFangTODO: Figure out couchdb version problems.15:05
CardinalFangBLOCKED: Couchdb release 0.10 soon?15:05
CardinalFangrodrigo_:  Hey!  What do you know?15:05
rodrigo_• DONE: IM addresses fields in evo-couchdb. Started looking at contact record conflict resolving15:06
rodrigo_• TODO: Talk to Ara about writing mago tests for evo-couchdb. Propose couchdb-glib/evo-couchdb for GNOME 2.29. Store UUIDs for postal addresses. Conflict resolver tool in pair tool. Look at becoming a MOTU (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers). openSUSE/Fedora packaging with aquarius. Notes web UI. Make evo-couchdb deal with conflicting contact records. Simplify tomboy syncing config UI15:06
rodrigo_• BLOCKED: no15:06
rodrigo_go vds go!15:06
vdsDONE:discussed with many people about couchdb quota intrgration, redrafted a possible solution/implementation15:06
vdsTODO: complete design of the integration and check with the others..15:06
vdsBLOCKED: need to discuss with lucio_15:06
vdsteknico all yours15:06
teknicoDONE: sprinting in London, worked with johnlea on use cases for the contacts web ui15:06
teknicoTODO: more sprinting in London15:06
teknicoBLOCK: none15:06
tekniconext: dobey15:06
dobey☺ DONE: Face duty (bug triage, irc)15:06
dobey☹ TODO: Fix more bugs.15:06
dobey☹ BLCK: None.15:06
dobeyque sera sera15:06
vdsEOM thank you all!15:07
CardinalFangthisfred, I don't know where the PPA came from, but I only update the packaging "debian/" stuff so far.15:08
thisfredCardinalFang: aquarius ignore thisfred -2 : tmp directories *are* created15:09
thisfredCardinalFang: looks like the %2F issue is back, and that could well be because of a downgrade15:10
CardinalFangaquarius, thisfred, jdo, I am supposed to package the 0.10 release of couchdb.  IF the problem is OAuth missing, then that should reintroduce it.  Should we remove couchdb-bin and use the PPA version until then?15:10
CardinalFangAh. Yes.15:10
thisfredCardinalFang: OAuth works, it just fails with encoded urls again15:10
CardinalFangRoger.15:10
thisfredjdo: I think this ^ is causing your problem too.15:11
thisfredI am now going back to fixing the server sourcedeps import hell15:11
* thisfred dramaqueen15:11
thisfredmy dog is teaching me bad behavior15:12
* thisfred cheers up15:12
CardinalFangthisfred, aquarius, have you heard any rumbling of couchdb 0.10 release?15:14
thisfredCardinalFang: they're still discussing it AFAIK15:16
thisfredCardinalFang: the call for objections has not closed15:16
thisfredaquarius: btw did you see the proposal to create a mailing list on apache.org for dc? I think that's better than a google group: more official, and yet independent of canonical.15:17
aquariusI did15:19
thisfredok, just checking :)15:20
aquariusarse!15:21
aquariusforgot to remove couchdb before doing the upgrade15:21
aquariusdespite everyone reminding me15:21
aquariushow do I fix it?15:21
thisfredaquarius: just do it now15:22
thisfredaquarius: I don't think that does any harm15:22
aquariuswon't let me remove it15:22
thisfredyou'll just have to install dev-deps15:22
aquariusaquarius@dell-desktop:~/canonical/desktopcouch/testing$ sudo apt-get remove couchdb15:22
aquariusReading package lists... Done15:22
aquariusBuilding dependency tree15:22
aquariusReading state information... Done15:22
aquariusYou might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:15:22
aquariusThe following packages have unmet dependencies:15:22
aquarius  desktopcouch: Depends: couchdb-bin (>= 0.10.0~svn809550) but it is not going to be installed15:22
teknicoaquarius, what? something I should know too? :-)15:22
aquarius  ubunet-developer-dependencies: Depends: couchdb-bin (>= 0.10.0~svn813472) but it is not going to be installed or15:23
aquarius                                          couchdb (>= 0.10.0~svn810463) but it is not going to be installed15:23
aquariusE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).15:23
thisfredaquarius: try removing desktopcouch too15:23
dobeyaquarius: you have to remove everything that depends on either couchdb-bin or couchdb at the same time15:23
thisfredI think that's what I did15:23
dobeyaquarius: so ubunet-developer-dependencies desktopcouch python-desktopcouch python-desktopcouch-records couchdb15:24
dobeyi think is everything i specified15:24
aquariusubunet-developer-dependencies desktopcouch python-desktopcouch python-desktopcouch-records couchdb evolution-couchdb quickly-ubuntu-template15:25
dobeyoh right, evolution-couchdb15:28
dobeyi didn't have quickly15:28
jcastroIs there a way to check to see if throttling has been accidentally enabled? I've only downloaded 336mb since yesterday. :-/16:03
jcastro(other than the gui)16:03
dobeyjcastro: the gui just uses dbus16:06
dobeyjcastro: so if the gui says no throttling, then it's not enabled, unless something really weird has happened16:06
dobeyjcastro: and throttling prefs aren't preserved across restart, so if you quit the applet and start it again, it should definitely be not enabled16:07
jcastrohmmm16:08
verterokjcastro: do you have d-feet installed?16:22
aquariusthisfred, you're not wrong -- having just upgraded, a load of tests fail with 401s.16:22
thisfredaquarius: damn. So I think it is jason's missing oauth url encoding patch16:24
aquariusverterok, or "dbus-send --session --dest=com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon --print-reply --type=method_call /config com.ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.Config.bandwidth_throttling_enabled" will do it if not?16:24
aquariusif I've got the right method :)16:24
verterokaquarius: right16:24
aquariusthisfred, how is that patch not in couch when it was in before?16:24
aquariusverterok, although I like d-feet more too :)16:25
verterokjcastro: what aquarius said ^ :)16:25
thisfredaquarius: because apparently couchdb was downgraded16:25
aquariusthisfred, do we know why? and how to stop it happening again?16:25
thisfredaquarius: very valid questions, see other channel ;) (I just asked them myself)16:25
verterokaquarius: it' a bit more user friendly, and allow you to explore the exposed dbus methods, which is quite neat16:26
aquariusverterok, yep. I use it all the time :)16:26
aquariusoooo, norty, /home/aquarius/.local/share/ubuntuone exists16:27
urbanapePushed a last fix to Bindwood that eliminates my dumb mistake that jblount found last night.16:55
jblountI was glad to be of service, it only cost urbanape one drink.16:57
urbanapeI've updated the commit message for Bindwood if someone would be so kind as to tarmac the crap out of it.16:58
urbanapeor, hrm.16:59
urbanapejblount schools me on being a sneaky sneak.16:59
* jblount grabs an umbrella16:59
urbanapejblount: the diff I just committed was: https://pastebin.canonical.com/22393/17:00
urbanape'itemId' wasn't defined at that point. Should have used 'aItemId'.17:01
* CardinalFang likes slow days when he's Face.17:22
urbanapeyay, slow days17:25
CardinalFangLunch!  back in a bit.17:26
dobeyeh17:29
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