[04:53] <zerothis> I'm about to head off to trade school to learn to make videogames (or not). I'm determined to remain committed to Libre Software. Does anybody have any advice for me? Does anybody know about Full Sail University?
[04:53] <zerothis> Does Canonical have any ties (at all) to Full Sail?
[14:47] <alkisg> In a desktop ubuntu installation, I'd like to prohibit the students from using audio devices. The audio group was deprecated in favour of HAL, which was deprecated in favour of devicekit... so how would I do that?
[15:10] <LaserJock> has anybody tried installing LTSP from the Edubuntu DVD?
[15:39] <highvoltage> LaserJock: hmm, I just booted on up
[15:40] <highvoltage> LaserJock: oh nm me, I just thought it was weird that it isn't an install option from gfxboot, but that's normal for a casper install
[15:43] <highvoltage> LaserJock: seems like the cdrom uri is commented out by default, so when I apt-get install ltsp-server-standalone, it fetched it from a mirror
[15:43] <highvoltage> LaserJock: it could be that I commented the cdrom line out and forgot about it, but I don't think so
[15:44] <LaserJock> highvoltage: did you have an internet connection during install?
[15:44] <highvoltage> LaserJock: I think so
[15:44] <stgraber> LTSP won't boot, I'll upload a fix for that later today
[15:44] <LaserJock> highvoltage: I think the CD lines are commented out if you have internet during install
[15:45] <LaserJock> hmm
[15:45] <highvoltage> LaserJock: ok, that makes sense then.
[15:45] <LaserJock> what I'm mostly concerned about is that we release a DVD with *no* way of installing LTSP for it
[15:46] <highvoltage> LaserJock: what are you concerned about? what would block ltsp from being installable?
[15:47] <LaserJock> well, if we don't have the menu options, etc.
[15:47] <highvoltage> LaserJock: it would be cool if LTSP could actually ship on the DVD
[15:47] <highvoltage> LaserJock: getting it a menu option is a big deal. I think ogra said (and he can clarify) that LTSP for a gui install system will be a big deal
[15:49] <ogra> dont you have the choice to do an alternate install with the DVD ?
[15:49] <ogra> it should surely work in alternate mode
[15:53] <highvoltage> ogra: preciously, you could press F4 and choose "Install LTSP server"
[15:53] <highvoltage> ogra: I don't see that, would it be in the actually alternate installer now?
[15:53] <ogra> well, that would have to enforce alternate
[15:53] <ogra> afaik the DVD always had a choice if you want to do a live install or an alternate one
[15:53] <highvoltage> s/preciously/previously
[15:54] <highvoltage> ogra: yes there is an option for "Install Edubuntu in text mode", but no "Install LTSP" on gfxboot menu
[15:55] <ogra> see if you get the F4 option if you move to the "text mode" option#
[15:55] <ogra> might be dependent
[15:56] <highvoltage> ogra: I thought so too, but it doesn't show it there either
[15:56] <highvoltage> ogra: what option does it pass to the cmdline if selected?
[15:56] <highvoltage> ogra: I just want to check if it installs LTSP if I pass it manually
[15:57] <ogra> it selects a special preseed file iirs
[15:57] <ogra> cjwatson should know
[15:59] <highvoltage> hmm, looking at /preseed on the cdrom there's just cli.seed  cloud.seed  edubuntu.seed  ubuntu-server-minimal.seed  ubuntu-server-minimalvm.seed  ubuntu-server.seed  workstation.seed
[15:59] <ogra> there should be an ltsp.seed
[16:00] <highvoltage> ogra: what's the process for getting it on there? could I just ask cjwatson?
[16:01] <ogra> i think so
[16:03] <highvoltage> I pinged him anyway.
[16:20] <LaserJock> highvoltage: thanks
[16:20]  * LaserJock was afk talking to Air Force people
[16:21] <LaserJock> the LTSP option was what I was meaning
[16:22] <LaserJock> what I think we should have for karmic is, standalone educational desktop = LiveFS/ubiquity and LTSP = alternate/text mode
[16:22] <LaserJock> but have them both available on the DVD
[16:22] <LaserJock> the problem is, I believe that means we're essentially shipping the ubuntu desktop twice
[16:23] <LaserJock> once in the squashfs, and then again as .debs for the ltsp client builder
[16:24] <voodoor> I've got my buntu box authenticating against our w2k3 server with likewise- dead easy that part - but now I'm struggling to get network share home folders to mount via pam. Anyone here successfully done this?
[16:27] <highvolt1ge> LaserJock: if we shipped a pre-built LTSP environment, we could potentially do away with the alternate system by getting some hooks in ubiquity
[16:27] <voodoor> a simple, verbose guide would be great
[16:28] <LaserJock> highvolt1ge: yeah, ultimately that would be the way to go
[16:28] <LaserJock> highvolt1ge: even if we had a separate "install an LTSP system" button on the Live session desktop
[16:29] <voodoor> I want to get ubuntu out of the server room and into the classrooms but I need this to work but can't find a guidd for this purpose that works or goes into enough detail
[16:29] <highvoltage> LaserJock: hmm, excellent idea. I should copy and paste it in a spec :)
[16:41] <LaserJock> highvoltage: yes, it seems now the wiki has been broken up into individual team wikis :-)
[16:44] <highvoltage> LaserJock: that seems to make sense
[16:44] <LaserJock> for as many teams, etc. as we have it does