=== wscc_ is now known as wscc [00:43] yay, email on source package branch merge proposals at last [00:43] thanks team [00:44] james_w: np [00:45] james_w: what's the state of package branches on LP? [00:45] james_w: are they all up there now? [00:45] and I should be able to reply to them soon as well :-) [00:45] getting there [00:45] james_w: how much to go? [00:45] james_w: you are aware of our space issues? [00:45] we're past the "churn through" stage, on to the "fix errors" stage [00:45] which means what? [00:45] maybe 10% [00:45] I'm unclear [00:45] * thumper nods [00:46] well, it requires to look at why bzr failed to import the history of a particular package, work out what triggered the problem, get the fix included, roll that out, and re-import [00:47] ok [00:47] so it's manual work, rather than just time waiting for a script to run [00:47] right [00:47] 10% seems like a lot of manual work [00:47] well, it's a case where 5% will be 1 bug, 2.5% another etc. [00:47] ah ok [00:48] I hadn't looked at the disk usage graph in a while [00:48] you could say it fit quite nicely [00:48] as long as no-one creates any more branches we will be fine :-) [00:49] anyway, good night [01:01] Hello, how can I get my project renamed? [01:08] djsiegel: add a question against the l pproject itself; ping me back with the number of same ; I'll verify you're you, and make it happen. [01:08] spm: awesome, one moment! [01:10] spm: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/83571 [01:11] djsiegel: one of my projects is named awffull. there are worse names than phaste. :-) [01:11] it's not the worst name ever, but it does sort of make you feel out of breath when you merely read it silently [01:12] djsiegel: done. https://edge.launchpad.net/haste [01:12] wow, thank you so much! [01:13] spm: if you need a pastebin tool, try haste :) I have no build infrastructure yet, though [01:13] $ | haste | xargs gnome-open [01:13] or [01:13] hahahaha. love it! will do :-) [01:14] $ haste --provider pastebin2 my_file.c [01:14] just sends the text and prints the url of the resulting paste === jumpkick_ is now known as jumpkick === jamalta-afk is now known as jamalta === wscc_ is now known as wscc [04:05] which debuild options would i use if i do not want to upload the same source tarball over and over again? [04:05] bjsnider: -sa [04:05] ok, so i leave out the -S [04:05] bjsnider: No, that too. [04:06] it's the default if the version before the - hasn't changed, isn't it? [04:06] -S says build source only. -sa says don't include the orig tarball. [04:06] -S -sa would upload the tarball again even if i have not changed it [04:06] Wait, yes. I had it the wrong way around. [04:06] -sa forces the tarball to be included. [04:06] ok, so just -S [04:06] got it [04:07] -sd will force the tarball to be excluded, but you shouldn't need that. [04:07] wgrant: uhm -sa forces upload [04:07] bjsnider: if you're seeing the tarball uploaded, you're probably doing native builds or something similar [04:07] if the only change i want to make is the distro in the changelog, i don't need to keep uploading [04:07] lifeless: Yes, I corrected myself. I never have to use it, so I forgot which way around it was. [04:08] bjsnider: You need to also change the version. [04:08] You can't upload the same version to multiple series. [04:09] well, i'll name the distro in the package name definitely [04:14] hey, if any launchpad admin is around, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/393854 says that an existing GNOME bug doesn't exist [04:14] Launchpad bug 393854 in gdm "Update PAM policy to allow password-less logins set up via users-admin" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [04:14] not sure if that will be fixed automaticly or needs manual kicking ;) [04:15] spm: ^ [04:16] yeah was looking. JanC. not being familiar with the remote bug side; what am I looking for that show's it's broken? [04:17] spm: if you fold open the gnome bug line at the top it says "GNOME Bug Tracker bug #414862 appears not to exist. Check that the bug number is correct." [04:17] Launchpad bug 414862 in acroread "acroread 9: you do not have permission to write to this file" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/414862 [04:17] eh, shut up ubottu :P [04:17] ahh right [04:17] if you follow the link, you can see it exists [04:18] * spm checks checkwatches... [04:42] hi all, I'm trying to setup the launchpad code on ubuntu jaunty and I've hit an error when running make schema. Specifically I've got errors coming out the wazoo when trying to build _ctypes [04:43] purserj: try #launchpad-dev [04:43] rightio [05:04] api question [05:04] getPublishedBinaries and getPublishedSources return a 500 server error when i specify version="something" [05:04] is that a bug? [05:04] ppa.getPublishedSources(version='0.8.5~ppa5') -> 500 [05:04] (launchpadlib) [05:08] i'm having a hell of a time trying to poll to see when my package will be accepted [05:08] uhm [05:08] you should get an OOPS ID in that 500 [05:08] it's a bug in something i guess [05:09] ok, lemme see. maybe the exception has that id? [05:09] i think it does [05:09] * mwhudson hasn't used the api much [05:10] (Pdb) p e.response [05:10] {'status': '500', 'x-lazr-oopsid': 'OOPS-1362EC266', 'via': '1.1 wildcard.edge.launchpad.net', 'x-powered-by': 'Zope (www.zope.org), Python (www.python.org)', 'content-length': '14', 'server': 'zope.server.http (HTTP)', 'connection': 'close', 'date': 'Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:10:19 GMT', 'content-type': 'text/plain'} [05:10] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1362EC266 [05:11] apparently i can't click on that? :) === jamalta is now known as jamalta-afk [05:11] not usefully, no [05:11] once it syncs we can inspect it for you [05:17] how long does it take to sync? [05:17] up to 10 minutes [05:17] k [05:20] AssertionError: 'version' can be only used when name is set [05:20] MFen: please file a bug - that should be a clean API error not an oops. [05:22] ok. the proper invocation would be, what, version=set(['0.8.5~ppa5'])? or does "set" mean something else in this context [05:23] No, no, it means you need to set the name. [05:23] So you need to search for both a name and a version. [05:23] Not just a version. [05:23] oh, i mentally added a word there [05:23] yeah, that makes sense. didn't occur to me because i only have one package [05:24] file that bug against..? [05:24] soyuz [05:24] ty [05:25] ref the oops number [05:25] it will make it clear to folk reading it === poolie1 is now known as poolie [05:30] oh ok [05:32] https://bugs.launchpad.net/soyuz/+bug/435023 [05:32] Launchpad bug 435023 in soyuz "Missing name to getPublishedBinaries or Sources should be an error, not oops" [Undecided,New] [05:35] ouch, I can't edit the bug description [05:35] wonder if it's just me [05:36] Ursinha: its just you [05:39] lifeless, I click in the exclamation mark, add the text and when click the green check for it to record the changes, the field box gets red and I see in tiny red letters: Entity-body was not a well-formed JSON document. [05:39] lifeless, are you able to record the changes? [05:40] Ursinha: I did [05:40] Ursinha: I've had that red error a few times [05:40] crap [05:40] I'll file a bug the next time Isee it [05:40] try repeating your action if it happens (may need to refresh) [05:42] how to download and install a package from the existing ppa? [05:42] I did it like a dozen times [05:42] now with another browser and same shit [05:43] suji, you should add the ppa to your sources.list and install it via apt-get or aptitude [05:43] Ursinha: ctrl-R ? [05:44] lifeless, nothing [05:45] hmm [05:45] you're on https yes? [05:45] can't be a proxy then... [05:47] lifeless, it was working this afternoon [05:47] I did nothing different [05:48] Ursinha: sure [05:48] Ursinha: when its happened to me its been a 30 second thing [05:48] just ctrl-refresh, works, keep goin [05:48] g [05:52] argh [05:52] how do you tell if a collection is populated, in launchpadlib? [05:52] i just want to know if there's at least one item [05:53] MFen, len(list(collection)) maybe works [05:53] But that's potentially very, very expensive. [05:53] well, i was hoping i wouldn't have to do that [05:53] yes, indeed [05:53] I don't know if there's a count or something that could tell that right away [05:53] I don't think there is. [05:54] sources[0] returns an IndexError when empty. so i could catch the exception.. [05:54] Maybe try to get collection[0]? [05:54] yes, and catch the index error [05:54] ugh? [05:54] that what I do [05:55] There's nothing really wrong with that. [05:58] poor form. it would be nice if the api made len() work. it doesn't have to be expensive if you do it on the server [06:02] It could be. [06:02] COUNT often isn't cheap. [06:02] sounds like you want it to support bool(), not necessarily len() [06:03] yeah, i really want bool in this case, but len comes in handy too [06:04] i always wondered why COUNT isn't O(1) for real tables === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [06:05] surely it occurred to someone to just keep a counter.. [06:05] it isn't? [06:05] * mzz feels ignorant [06:05] well, i suppose i haven't actually checked [06:05] I figured COUNT would only be slow if it involves a WHERE [06:06] or something else making it differ from just the number of rows in the table [06:07] Transactions. [06:07] ok. making actual progress [06:07] MVCC can make COUNT require a sequential scan, I believe. [06:07] i am now able to tell when the ppa has accepted my package, through the api. it's heinous, but it works [06:08] now i need to figure out what it takes to poll the binaries [06:09] this sounds like it's for something I might like [06:09] i'm automating steps 4-5 here http://wiki.goonmill.org/HowtoReleaseHypy [06:10] it's for release automation. i shouldn't have to hang around and wait for my packages to build, so i'm writing something that uses the api to poll for built packages. when they're done, it'll copy them, too [06:11] what i want to answer at this juncture is: "are all the binaries that are going to be built, already built?" [06:12] the hard part of that question is i don't know how to find out how many binaries are going to be built [06:12] MFen: its turing complete [06:12] afaict the api does not actually use the "pending" status. i can only see packages that actually were built [06:12] you'd have to peek at the debian/control file, and I have no idea if launchpad does that before actually building [06:12] MFen: if you have an oracle, use it. Otherwise you have to wait. [06:12] lifeless: i'm going for an approximation i.e. "within the next day or so" :) [06:12] MFen: no, I mean the number and names of the built packages [06:13] MFen: its turing complete. [06:13] MFen: The API does use the pending status. [06:13] MFen: What is missing? [06:13] wgrant: well, i have yet to see getPublishedBinaries return any pending packages in the list [06:13] unless it means something unexpected [06:13] MFen: That's because they will only be Pending for a few seconds. [06:14] MFen: Unlike sources, binaries only get publishing records just before they're actually published. [06:14] well, that would explain it. so how do i know how many builders it has spawned? i just want to know that, and then wait for all of them to finish [06:14] MFen: You have to look at build statuses for the rest. [06:14] MFen: Have a look at getBuildRecords, I guess. [06:14] MFen: one per arch, except arch all [06:15] or any; where any is one per build arch for the distro ~~ ppa-build-arches, and all is one arch only [06:16] MFen: what are you trying to achieve? [06:16] MFen: nothing in the hypy list seems to need estimates [06:16] just like i said, trying to automate my release. rather than sit on the web page and wait for all the building to complete so i can copy packages, i want my computer to do the waiting [06:16] estimates? [06:17] 15:10 < MFen> what i want to answer at this juncture is: "are all the binaries that are going to be built, already built?" [06:17] thats an estimation question, isn't it? [06:17] no? a certain number of builders are spawned each time. (it's probably always 3, but i'm not sure). i want to wait for all those arches to finish building [06:17] It's easy enough to check. [06:17] it's an exact number, i just don't know what it is :) [06:18] ah! [06:18] arches != binaries [06:18] Locate all builds for the source. [06:18] very different thing [06:18] https://edge.launchpad.net/~subunit/+archive/snapshots/+packages [06:18] start with that page in the lp [06:18] source [06:18] Hmm. [06:18] should give you enough inspiration [06:18] Is the necessary stuff exposed in the API... [06:18] * wgrant checks. [06:19] i haven't looked at getBuildRecords yet [06:19] MFen: Ah, easy. You don't need to. [06:19] MFen: Use archive.getBuildSummariesForSourceIds [06:19] aha! [06:19] yes. i shall try that. [06:19] MFen: That will give you a nice overview of the status of all the builds. It will even tell you when the build is finished, but the binaries aren't published yet. [06:20] If the binaries are unpublished, it will give a status of FULLYBUILT_PENDING, rather than the normal FULLYBUILT. [06:20] That's what the page lifeless pointed at uses. [06:21] ok cuz i still have no idea what i'm supposed to be looking at on that page [06:22] MFen: The far-right column in the table is the information that you require. [06:23] oh, yeah. that's no different from what i see on my own ppa page though [06:23] Right. [06:23] But that shows what you need, so you could check the code. [06:24] oh right. the code. i forgot you guys released the code [06:24] remembering that would have made this easier [06:31] not one hit on google code for that api [06:32] That's unsurprising. [06:32] It exists mainly for the use of the PPA listing page. [06:32] i dunno. google code doesn't seem very useful [06:32] you'd think it would index anything open source that had a web repo [06:34] puzzling [06:34] source_ids is a single int? [06:35] MFen: A list of ints, I believe. [06:35] MFen: Not designed nor ideally suited to launchpadlib use, but it can be done. [06:36] i'll have to parse it off of self_link [06:36] MFen: You need to get the ID of the source_package_publishing_hisory. [06:36] I think so, yes. [06:36] :( [06:56] Version 0.8.5~ppa9 packages not yet accepted by the PPA. Waiting 20s... [\n] Package was accepted. [\n] BUILDING: amd64 build of python-hypy 0.8.5~ppa9 in ubuntu karmic RELEASE [\n] BUILDING: i386 build of python-hypy 0.8.5~ppa9 in ubuntu karmic RELEASE [\n] BUILDING: lpia build of python-hypy 0.8.5~ppa9 in ubuntu karmic RELEASE [\n] 0/3 packages finished. Waiting 60s... [06:58] MFen: Looking good. [06:58] \o/ load [06:58] we need notfications :P [06:58] lifeless: PPA pages do exactly the same thing every 60 seconds if there are any builds that are not finished and published. [06:59] i'm going to have to make my timeout a lot longer. i've got 28 minutes waiting in the queue now :) [06:59] wgrant: same applies there :) [07:00] MFen: Bonus points for reading the estimated start time and delaying until around then. [07:01] (sadly that's not possible yet, but it would be a simple patch) [07:04] ok. thanks a million for your help, everyone [07:04] i'm going to go to bed now. i'll pick this up again tomorrow [07:04] Night. [08:25] hello [08:26] hi :) [08:30] hi jml [08:36] yay the little i came back for public/private on webkit [08:37] oh, that's a pencil, never noticed [08:44] anybody remembers david alouch's irc nick ? [08:47] sivang: ddaa [08:57] wgrant: thank you! [08:59] * maxb blinks [08:59] So I accidentally superseded a package in my PPA with one with a *lower* version number [08:59] You hadn't previously deleted it? [08:59] no [08:59] um [08:59] But... [09:00] oh yes I had, but I got confused [09:00] *phew* [09:00] Confusion is easy. [09:00] I'd deleted it, but I'd also copied it to *another* PPA [09:00] Ah. [09:00] and I'd got confused which one I was looking at === mrevell-dinner is now known as mrevell [09:10] hi, is editing of bug descriptions known to be not working, I always get [09:10] "Entity-body was not a well-formed JSON document" [09:11] btw, it is hardly readable on my netbook in such a small font ;) [09:36] JanC: ref that gnome bug you noted earlier? is now better understood; a solution will be either part of the rollout in ~ 13ish hours (2200 utc) or manually fixed later today. gmb is the person to talk with for the thrilling details. :-) === doko_ is now known as doko [10:29] I love it when I click a button I dont' click every day and get nice ajaxy fun stuff in LP. [10:33] heh === danilo-afk is now known as danilos === sayakb_ is now known as sayakb [10:59] why https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/433259 doesn't show up in my launchpade page: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~sentiniate [10:59] Launchpad bug 433259 in grub-installer "karmic - /etc/grub.d/ contains both 30-otheros and 30_os-prober " [Medium,Fix released] [11:01] and, my impression is that the fix has furtherly messed up things, i'll have to take photos of grub window and add them to my bugreport === carlos_ is now known as carlos [11:32] gnaarrrrr [11:32] Uhoh. [11:32] I can't get to the Ubuntu Bugs page from an Ubuntu bug report [11:33] e.g. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntulooks/+bug/16045 [11:33] Launchpad bug 16045 in ubuntulooks "Show Desktop button (and some others) shouldn't have rounded borders" [Wishlist,Confirmed] [11:33] True. [11:33] What am I missing? [11:33] Was there ever a way to do that? [11:33] Yes, in 2.x you could click on "Ubuntu" in the hierarchy [11:33] Oh, right. [11:41] "# [11:41] # Launchpad now open source! – 21 Jul 2009 [11:41] Translate a phrase once, have it show up in all your releases. " [11:41] that seems a bit wonky [11:41] (from the front page) [11:45] What's up with the PPA builders? Did the ongoing ubuntu archive rebuild get reprioritized above normal PPA builds? [11:45] mpt: yes you can, using the so-called bread crumbs [11:46] maxb: it looks like nothing's getting dispatched at all [11:46] gar [11:46] intellectronica, none of them go to the Ubuntu Bugs page. Close, though. :-) One goes to the Ubuntu page, and another goes to the ubuntulooks Bugs page. [11:48] mpt: ah, interesting. so i guess packages should have another level in their breadcrumbs [11:48] Or the breadcrumbs need dropdowns like they had in 1.0. [11:48] Oh yes, the build farm does seem to have melted completely :-/ [11:49] I am trying to get an admin to poke it [11:49] 6 hours ago.. wow. [11:50] i was not a big fan of those dropdowns, i like having all the text in front of me [11:50] intellectronica, I guess this was a bit inevitable when trying to collapse two aspects of navigation (hierarchy + facets) into one. I don't see where "Bugs in Ubuntu" would sensibly go into that hierarchy. Either you came from the ubuntulooks page, or you came from the Ubuntu Bugs page, not both. [11:50] (the ubuntulooks Bugs page, I mean) [11:51] You can't actually get to from the Ubuntu Bugs page to the ubuntulooks Bugs page. That's not a problem in itself, but it would be weird for the breadcrumbs to suggest you can. [11:52] mpt: i see what you mean. yes, that's quite tricky. but i think a rule of the facet breadcrumb always showing after the context will work [11:52] well, not context, i mean target. in this case the bug is the context === cprov-afk is now known as cprov [11:53] intellectronica, so what would that mean in this case? "Ubuntu “ubuntulooks” package Bugs in ubuntulooks Bug #16045" then ... [11:53] Launchpad bug 16045 in ubuntulooks "Show Desktop button (and some others) shouldn't have rounded borders" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16045 [11:53] * mpt wonders why the guillemots didn't copy [11:53] maxb: it's getting un-boogered now [11:53] \o/ [11:53] thanks [11:53] and the bug that causes it will be squished tonight in the rollout [11:54] even better :-) [11:54] mpt: yes, that's what i meant [11:55] intellectronica, I was waiting for you to fill in the blank :-) What would go after that? [11:55] bigjools: Whilst you have an admin around, could you get them to kick zeca too? [11:55] maxb: zeca? you mean the keyserver [11:55] ye [11:55] (Oh, I see, they're list items with custom bullets, not real guillemots. That'll be a bit awkward for people using screen readers or text browsers.) [11:55] s [11:55] zeca is a test thing :) [11:56] they are aware of it, I don't know what's up with it [11:56] mpt: the bug is the last component [11:56] intellectronica, yes, so where would "Bugs in Ubuntu" go in that list? [11:58] mpt: it would go immediately after ubuntu [11:59] intellectronica, so "Ubuntu > Bugs in Ubuntu > ubuntulooks package > Bugs in ubuntulooks > Bug 16045"? [11:59] Launchpad bug 16045 in ubuntulooks "Show Desktop button (and some others) shouldn't have rounded borders" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16045 [11:59] maxb: Apparently keyserver.u.c is just overloaded. [11:59] mpt: yup [11:59] eek [12:00] Yes. Use pook.sks-keyservers.net instead, I suppose. [12:00] it's not that clean, but i think it's still better than the matrix for hierarchy and facets, which can be quite confusing [12:00] s/pook/pool/ [12:02] intellectronica, I think the main reason it was confusing was the "You're using edge" bar splitting it in two. I really don't think a hierarchy alone can sensibly do the job, but I hope you succeed anyway. :-) === sayakb_ is now known as sayakb === henninge is now known as henninge-lunch === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch === henninge-lunch is now known as henninge === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [12:56] hi, I am unable to check out this bzr branch on launchpad: bzr branch lp:webcontentcontrol [12:56] I get the following error [12:56] bzr: ERROR: Target directory "webcontentcontrol" already exists. [12:57] bzr: ERROR: Unrecognised container format: '' [12:57] (other error just from previous attempt) [12:58] Bazaar version 1.13.1 === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell === matsubara-afk is now known as matsubara [13:26] KIAaze, it means there's a directory named webcontentcontrol in your CWD. you need to either remove it or use a different name for the branch (e.g. bzr branch lp:webcontentcontrol webcontrol) [13:27] no, that was just a copy/paste error. The real error was the html thing. [13:27] but I managed to check out the branch after using my launchpad login, so it went over SSL [13:36] cprov: is the fix for bug 408528 already in use? because http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32262296/upload_1255703_log.txt (Unhandled exception processing upload: duplicate key value violates unique constraint "person__account__key") [13:36] Launchpad bug 408528 in soyuz "Packages build but fail to upload due to email address issue" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/408528 [13:37] geser: it should be, let me check [13:37] Oh dear. [13:37] That's not a good looking error... [13:39] I've seen this already in the copy archive but now in the main archive too [13:40] Hmm. [13:40] Does that mean there is an account with a person and an email address, but the email address is not linked to the person? [13:49] Hi all, I have an issue that I hope that you can help with. I would like to delete https://launchpad.net/me-tv/+milestone/beta but every time I try to, I get an oops. [13:52] geser: can you safely retry that build ? [13:53] what you mean with "safely retry"? [13:57] geser: if retrying that build is still possible and wouldn't cause any problem to your archive. [13:57] cprov: ah, sure [13:59] cprov: I'll let you know when the retry is done by the buildd [13:59] geser: what's the build url ? [14:00] cprov: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/php-kolab-filter/0.1.5-2/+build/1255703 [14:00] geser: rescored. [14:01] :) [14:10] geser: same error, the workaround doesn't cover this case, I will investigate. === jamalta-afk is now known as jamalta === sayakb_ is now known as sayakb [14:48] hey guys, I get an OOPS when I click on the logout button [14:49] everytime [14:49] just wondering if someone would like to take a quick look [14:49] I'm at this url: https://bugs.launchpad.net/landscape/+bug/+logout [14:49] OOPS-1362G2187 is the last oops [14:49] https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1362G2187 [14:49] and I'll get another one if I click on "logout" again [14:50] looks like the 404 page from LP [14:50] I was logged in as someone who could browse landscape buugs [14:50] then in another tab I logged out and logged in as someone who couldn't [14:50] then went back to the first one and clicked logout [14:50] I think that was what I did [14:52] ok, I'll close it and move on as I need to do some work too :) [15:05] hey guys do the gpg keyservers fall under this jurisdiction? or is this the wrong channel === ursula_ is now known as Ursinha [15:59] Why is the translation system in Launchpad so hard to use? It's not well-integrated into the search system, for instance, I can't filter out translate templates. It's just hard to find the translation template you need and I really think it should get an overall refresh [15:59] cumulus007, it has had a refresh on edge [15:59] have you tried edge? [16:00] not yet, I'll have a look then :) [16:01] ah it's a lot cleaner and faster [16:01] cumulus007, it will be rolled out to production in a few hours [16:01] yes I read about that [16:03] beuno: there is just one feature I would really like to see.. It would be great if I could list Ubuntu-specific software and documentation only [16:03] beuno: is something like that in development or discussed? [16:04] cumulus007, I don't know, but danilos, jtv or henninge may [16:05] cumulus007: you mean something like https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/? [16:05] cumulus007: when you into a particular language, you'll see only ubuntu-specific software and documentation [16:06] No, because KDE software, GNOME software and lots of other software [16:06] ..is also listed. === jon is now known as Guest8339 [16:31] hihi it's my first time here [16:31] is there some one ? Y'a-t-il quelqu'un ?? [16:32] binetou, there is always someone :) [16:32] sorry !! [16:33] binetou, nothing to be sorry about [16:33] Ursinha: jeez, you scared him off! [16:33] hahaha what the... [16:33] :P [16:33] jamalta, :P I wonder what I said [16:33] Ursinha: i have no clue.. i do wonder what the second part of his message was [16:34] wgrant, others: thanks again for your help. i got it working [16:34] http://hypy-source.goonmill.org/file/6454ce4fc3e5/build-tools/lptool [16:34]