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kwwiipsyke83: if anything changes and you want to come, let me know I and will see to it...it won't cost you anything other than your time00:00
kwwiiunless you decide to spend too much money on booze, like I do every time :p00:01
psyke83kwwii: thanks, I appreciate that offer. I'm hoping to get some temporary work until December in order to get some money together, though, so I'm not sure it'll be possible this time00:01
psyke83it's very generous to pay for the trip, I didn't know that sponsorships involved finances00:02
kwwiipsyke83: no worries, maybe I can convine them to give you a contract working on the new themes00:02
kwwiipsyke83: yepp, we have always paid for a certain amount of people to come...we always do it somewhere else around the world so that those we do not sponsor eventually have a chance00:03
kwwiia few months ago we were in Dublin00:03
psyke83yes, I think you told me... I think I was in Brazil at the time00:05
kwwiipsyke83: while you are here, off the top or your head, do you know how to add a couple pixels padding the entire list/tree view?00:05
kwwiimpt asked my whether it would be possible to add a few pixels padding to the top and bottom so that the active selection in nautilus and other apps with the left-hand tree view do not touch the top (or bottom)00:06
kwwiiat the time, I (guessed) thought that we can either pad each item or not at all00:07
kwwiierm, tree=list00:08
psyke83kwwii: add xthickness/ythickness = 5 (for example) to the "murrine-treeview-header" style00:08
psyke83hmm00:08
kwwiibut that is the header of it, not the contents, or?00:08
psyke83you mean the list of items within the treeview? so for example in nautilus's list view, you want more separation between files?00:08
kwwiiI mean the contents but just the top and bottom few pixels inside the box00:09
psyke83kwwii: see the Style Properties part of this link: http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/2.15/GtkTreeView.html00:10
kwwiicurrently, when the top item is selected the selection bg touches the top00:10
psyke83let me think which one it is00:10
psyke83do you have a screenshot or app where I can see this?00:10
kwwiiin the screen on that page, the selection bg of "List and Tree" would be about two pixels lower (with white in between)00:11
kwwiiI don't have anything which shows what I mean, but it wouldn't be hard to make a mockup00:12
kwwiibut the other items would not be further apart00:12
psyke83I'm a little fuzzy on what part you want two pixels lower... the "List and Tree" part is the treeview header, but I'm not sure where you want two pixels padding00:15
psyke83do you mean the space between the header (the "List and Tree" part, including the grey area) and the list "Line One"?00:16
kwwiiyes00:16
kwwiilet me make a mockup quickly to explain00:17
kwwiiit would be easier00:17
kwwiihttp://sinecera.de/list-and-tree.png00:23
kwwiinot that much, but you get the point00:23
psyke83h00:23
psyke83ah00:23
psyke83I have a feeling it's not possible, but I'm checking now00:24
psyke83kwwii: I don't think it's possible. Conceptually, the treeview list begins under the header, whereas in your mockup it seems as though the header is embedded within the list (but at the top)00:31
psyke83kwwii: see here: http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/2.15/tree-view-coordinates.png00:32
psyke83according to the docs, GtkTreeView is embedded in a GTKScrolledWindow widget - and it's the latter that draws the border. The only options for this is related to scrollbar spacing00:38
psyke83so the answer is a definite no, without patching gtk00:38
kwwiipsyke83: yeah, that is what I thought as well..thanks for going to to the lengths to test it00:40
kwwiiyou know much more about the finer points than I do00:41
kwwiiwhich is why I asked you, naturally :)00:41
kwwiithanks00:41
psyke83I don't know GTK in detail, but the docs are fairly clear about the way you can style the widgets. I don't think that treeviews can be changed in that way00:42
psyke83no prob ;)00:42
kwwiiI will see to it that we change this in gtk, if possible00:42
kwwiiadding a right, left, top, bottom padding to this would be good00:43
psyke83I better get some sleep, need to be up early. Will reply to that mail tomorrow re the theme00:43
kwwiiyeah, time for sleep here too00:43
kwwiiI am an hour later than you!00:43
psyke83kwwii: well, padding is already possible, I think, but it depends on exactly where you want to pad00:43
kwwiisee you soon, no hurries on responding, live your life first00:43
kwwiipsyke83: right00:43
kwwiiI appreciate the help00:44
psyke83sure thing00:44
psyke83nite everyone00:44
kwwiinight man, cheers00:44
psyke83thanks, you too00:44
* kwwii heads out as well...night all00:45
knomenight kwwii00:45
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