[00:00] psyke83: if anything changes and you want to come, let me know I and will see to it...it won't cost you anything other than your time [00:01] unless you decide to spend too much money on booze, like I do every time :p [00:01] kwwii: thanks, I appreciate that offer. I'm hoping to get some temporary work until December in order to get some money together, though, so I'm not sure it'll be possible this time [00:02] it's very generous to pay for the trip, I didn't know that sponsorships involved finances [00:02] psyke83: no worries, maybe I can convine them to give you a contract working on the new themes [00:03] psyke83: yepp, we have always paid for a certain amount of people to come...we always do it somewhere else around the world so that those we do not sponsor eventually have a chance [00:03] a few months ago we were in Dublin [00:05] yes, I think you told me... I think I was in Brazil at the time [00:05] psyke83: while you are here, off the top or your head, do you know how to add a couple pixels padding the entire list/tree view? [00:06] mpt asked my whether it would be possible to add a few pixels padding to the top and bottom so that the active selection in nautilus and other apps with the left-hand tree view do not touch the top (or bottom) [00:07] at the time, I (guessed) thought that we can either pad each item or not at all [00:08] erm, tree=list [00:08] kwwii: add xthickness/ythickness = 5 (for example) to the "murrine-treeview-header" style [00:08] hmm [00:08] but that is the header of it, not the contents, or? [00:08] you mean the list of items within the treeview? so for example in nautilus's list view, you want more separation between files? [00:09] I mean the contents but just the top and bottom few pixels inside the box [00:10] kwwii: see the Style Properties part of this link: http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/2.15/GtkTreeView.html [00:10] currently, when the top item is selected the selection bg touches the top [00:10] let me think which one it is [00:10] do you have a screenshot or app where I can see this? [00:11] in the screen on that page, the selection bg of "List and Tree" would be about two pixels lower (with white in between) [00:12] I don't have anything which shows what I mean, but it wouldn't be hard to make a mockup [00:12] but the other items would not be further apart [00:15] I'm a little fuzzy on what part you want two pixels lower... the "List and Tree" part is the treeview header, but I'm not sure where you want two pixels padding [00:16] do you mean the space between the header (the "List and Tree" part, including the grey area) and the list "Line One"? [00:16] yes [00:17] let me make a mockup quickly to explain [00:17] it would be easier [00:23] http://sinecera.de/list-and-tree.png [00:23] not that much, but you get the point [00:23] h [00:23] ah [00:24] I have a feeling it's not possible, but I'm checking now [00:31] kwwii: I don't think it's possible. Conceptually, the treeview list begins under the header, whereas in your mockup it seems as though the header is embedded within the list (but at the top) [00:32] kwwii: see here: http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/2.15/tree-view-coordinates.png [00:38] according to the docs, GtkTreeView is embedded in a GTKScrolledWindow widget - and it's the latter that draws the border. The only options for this is related to scrollbar spacing [00:38] so the answer is a definite no, without patching gtk [00:40] psyke83: yeah, that is what I thought as well..thanks for going to to the lengths to test it [00:41] you know much more about the finer points than I do [00:41] which is why I asked you, naturally :) [00:41] thanks [00:42] I don't know GTK in detail, but the docs are fairly clear about the way you can style the widgets. I don't think that treeviews can be changed in that way [00:42] no prob ;) [00:42] I will see to it that we change this in gtk, if possible [00:43] adding a right, left, top, bottom padding to this would be good [00:43] I better get some sleep, need to be up early. Will reply to that mail tomorrow re the theme [00:43] yeah, time for sleep here too [00:43] I am an hour later than you! [00:43] kwwii: well, padding is already possible, I think, but it depends on exactly where you want to pad [00:43] see you soon, no hurries on responding, live your life first [00:43] psyke83: right [00:44] I appreciate the help [00:44] sure thing [00:44] nite everyone [00:44] night man, cheers [00:44] thanks, you too [00:45] * kwwii heads out as well...night all [00:45] night kwwii === zniavre_ is now known as zniavre === mac__v is now known as mac_v [18:45] Hello all _o/ === zniavre is now known as perceval === perceval is now known as zniavre