[01:00]  * BUGabundo make bed; make sleep; sleep(6h): wakeonlan( BUGabundo )
[06:19] <dholbach> good morning
[06:47] <porthose> dholbach, would you set bug #435015 to won't fix? It sounds like he is describing the expected behavior of python2.6
[06:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 435015 in python2.6 "python2.6 fails to create or use site-packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/435015
[06:50] <dholbach> can you add a comment that explains what happens? I think I'd be happier if somebody who has more of a clue (than I do) of python and what's happening set it to won't fix
[06:52] <porthose> I was going to add this to the comment http://list.debian.org/debian-python/2009/09/msg00122.html which discusses the current situation of python2.6 in debian
[06:54] <dholbach> porthose: can you start the discussion in #ubuntu-devel?
[06:54] <dholbach> I'm no python expert and really don't want to make decisions in a discussion where I have little clue
[06:54] <porthose> sure :)
[06:54] <porthose> I understand :)
[06:56] <jmarsden> porthose: The hostname in that URL should be lists not list, I think?
[06:57] <porthose> jmarsden, you are correct typo on my part :)
[08:43] <thekorn> good morning bugsquad!!
[08:58] <davmor2> thekorn: you just successfully made yourself out to be a teacher, I very nearly replied with morning mr thekorn ;)
[09:17] <thekorn> davmor2, haha, no, I'm not a teacher, and I will never be ;)
[09:19]  * davmor2 ponders on thekorn s comment and says Reheheally (in an ace ventura stylie) Do you not teach any one to triage bugs then?
[09:23] <thekorn> why do I always think about noisy and screaming kids when someone talks about teacher? - this imagination made me to write this comment above
[09:25] <davmor2> That's because I'm amasingly pedantic ;)
[09:25] <davmor2> oh and sarcastic to boot :D
[11:03] <mpt> Hi, how do I apply for permission to set Importance for bug reports in a particular Ubuntu package?
[11:04] <lifeless> I may be out of date, but AFAIK bug-squad
[11:05] <lifeless> mpt: ^ if there are some specific bugs you need toggled let me know
[11:05] <mpt> Is that a mailing list, or a team, or what?
[11:06] <mpt> ah, https://launchpad.net/~bugsquad
[11:06] <lifeless> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugSquad
[11:08] <mpt> thanks lifeless
[11:09] <lifeless> last I heard there wasn't per-package facility to do this
[11:09] <lifeless> I'm not sure what it would take to permit it; I kindof assume package upload rights will grant it
[11:10] <james_w> nah, not bugsquad
[11:10] <james_w> bugcontrol
[11:10] <lifeless> ah!
[11:10] <james_w> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-bugcontrol
[11:11] <lifeless> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugControl
[11:11] <lifeless> mpt: ^
[11:11] <james_w> bdmurray: should the bugsquad LP page/wiki page mention bugcontrol?
[11:13] <james_w> mpt: I'd be happy to fulfil requirement 4 for you by vouching for you
[11:14] <lifeless> james_w: speaking of vouching
[11:14] <lifeless> james_w: I want to go for generalist, I suspect
[11:14] <lifeless> james_w: :)
[11:14] <james_w> has Colin not been in touch with you?
[11:14] <lifeless> the questionnaire yes; followup no
[11:14] <james_w> ah, ok
[11:15] <james_w> I thought for a moment you were saying "make it happen!"
[11:15] <james_w> I've no idea what the process will be yet, but I'm happy to advocate
[11:15] <lifeless> I'm assuming a 'mass' application for core-dev, in terms of process
[16:40] <bdmurray> james_w: yes, probably!
[17:04] <mac_v> bdmurray: hi... is it a known issue that the Karma is not displayed after the latest lp-improvements update?
[17:05] <bdmurray> mac_v: no it is not known, 0.8.0 works for me.
[17:06] <mac_v> hm...
[17:12] <mac_v> bdmurray: i tired reinstalling , shutting down firefox fully and reopening... but still the Karma is 0 , does the Karma get cached somewhere?
[17:13] <bdmurray> If karma is 0 it is likely working.  If it is blank then there is an issue.
[17:14] <mac_v> bdmurray: no... i mean 0 for all! pedro and seb128 have 0 too ;)
[17:14] <bdmurray> what bug are you looking at?
[17:16] <mac_v> in all bugs , ex: >https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/190114
[17:17] <mac_v> bdmurray: ah ha... it works on edge but not regular lp
[17:21] <bdmurray> mac_v: okay, it was fixed because it was broken on edge! ;-)
[17:22] <bdmurray> the production server will be updated today or tomorrow so it'll start working there after that
[17:23] <mac_v> thanks :)
[21:21] <MyXelf> hello
[21:22] <MyXelf> i'm trying to find some help related to bugs reporting in launchpad
[21:22] <MyXelf> can somebody help me
[21:23] <MyXelf> i want to make things the right way (despite yesterday i made a mistake marking a bug as a duplicate)
[21:26] <micahg> MyXelf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[21:28] <MyXelf> i've read that link about three times
[21:28] <MyXelf> my doubts aren't there
[21:30] <MyXelf> what i don't want to do is to mess with real information
[21:31] <micahg> MyXelf: what would you like to be able to do?
[21:31] <micahg> or rather what are you trying to do?
[21:31] <MyXelf> thanks for paying me attention
[21:31] <MyXelf> for example, yesterday i found a bug that was a duplicate
[21:31] <MyXelf> i created my account, and then marked the bug as a duplicate
[21:32] <MyXelf> supposing the system would add the formal description of "Thanks for ..." and also making the "bug NUMBER" automatically into a link to the corresponding duplicate
[21:33] <MyXelf> after realizing that wasn't going to happen, i added the formal description by myself copying and pasting the text from some "Ubuntu Bug Squad" url
[21:34] <micahg> yes, it doesn't add the text, but it does notlicatee it on the dup
[21:34] <micahg> *note it on the duplicate
[21:34] <MyXelf> but for my surprise the bug NUMBER part didn't convert into an hyperlink
[21:34] <MyXelf> yeap, i saw that happen
[21:35] <MyXelf> also all the people subscribed to the dup, automatically pass to the "master" bug
[21:35] <MyXelf> but i don't think i have to type the <a> tag inside the description by hand
[21:36] <micahg> yes
[21:36] <micahg> they are made hyperlinks if it says bug xxxxxx
[21:37] <MyXelf> i guess i shouldn't include the '#'
[21:38] <micahg> yeah
[21:38] <micahg> you just need the actual number
[21:38] <MyXelf> ok, that was the first
[21:38] <MyXelf> can i go on, or do you think there is something else i should know
[21:39] <MyXelf> based on your experience
[21:41] <MyXelf> ?
[21:41] <micahg> MyXelf: have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage
[21:41] <MyXelf> yeap
[21:42] <MyXelf> from there i got the formal reply
[21:42] <BUGabundo> guud evening
[21:43] <MyXelf> let me try to explain the bug i'm trying to report
[21:43] <MyXelf> i'm running karmic
[21:43] <MyXelf> and i do connect using dial-up
[21:43] <MyXelf> i'm pretty sure the bug is in the kernel
[21:43] <MyXelf> but i don't know the best way, the most comfortable, to make it
[21:44] <MyXelf> it could be directly at launchpad, could be using ubuntu-bug or apport
[21:45] <MyXelf> but i cant use any of them, because i can't be online during the crash, due to the bug itself
[21:45] <MyXelf> are u following me?
[21:48] <MyXelf> (could there be anybody lol-ing because a newbie like me is writing all this stuff in the main thread of the channel instead of using a "private"?)
[21:49] <micahg> MyXelf: no one will lol you for trying to acquire knowledge in this channel
[21:50]  * BUGabundo lols
[21:50]  * BUGabundo now goes reading backlog
[21:50] <micahg> brb
[21:50] <bdmurray> apport-cli can be used and your bug report stored for later filing when you are on-line
[21:50] <nperry> Can somone have a look into bug 429065 and maybe set an importance please?
[21:51] <BUGabundo> bdmurray: but how will MyXelf upload it ?
[21:51] <BUGabundo> when he tries to be online he crashs
[21:51] <BUGabundo> unless he uses an alternate connection or PC
[21:51] <nperry> I've confirmed the bug, and also have attached the log.
[21:52] <micahg> thanks bdmurray, was about to pull that out
[21:53] <micahg> bdmurray: where's the bot
[21:53] <MyXelf> i can upload it later
[21:54] <MyXelf> because right now i'm at work, the bug occurs at home
[21:54] <MyXelf> at work i use a lan
[21:55] <MyXelf> instead of asking here the details about apport-cli, is there any "good" url to start reading?
[21:55] <BUGabundo> ok MyXelf
[21:55] <BUGabundo> then use apport to collect the logs offline
[21:58] <MyXelf> okie dokie, i'll give it a try
[21:58] <MyXelf> thanks you all for your time
[21:59] <MyXelf> i'm sure i'll be back with more doubts :-)
[22:00] <micahg> MyXelf: feel free to come back anytime with questions
[22:01] <MyXelf> ty