[00:04] slangasek, hum, assigning the bug to robert is a weird reply to my question ;-) [00:04] seb128: uh... it was a reply to rickspencer sitting next to me and telling me to do that :) [00:04] not sure I saw the question [00:04] oh ok [00:04] slangasek, I asked what you suggest changing [00:05] to be honest I don't think that's the higher priority we have with gdm now too [00:05] but I will not start discussing settings there ;-) [00:05] seb128: my initial suggestion to Rick was: put an inactive 'login' button in the lower right-hand corner, so that the "default" button position is occupied by something safe [00:06] seb128: alternatively, don't highlight the first user in the list [00:06] seb128: I'm not arguing it's the highest priority... I do think it's something that significantly impacts usability and should be fixed before release [00:07] you are concern by people clicking on shutdown by mistake? [00:07] seb128: I have done it *repeatedly* [00:07] so yes, it concerns me :) [00:07] hum, ok ;-) [00:07] you are the first one to mention that but one is enough [00:08] adding an unactive button seems fine to me [00:08] seb128: sorry, it's a bug I should have filed a long time ago, but every time I run into it, my reboot takes long enough that I forget about it by the time I get to my browser ;-) [00:08] just curious, I don't want to shutdown my box now, but it doesn't ask you before shuting down the box? [00:08] nope! [00:08] that would be an another bug [00:20] oh, and that's reminded me of one I found last night [00:20] something just changed on my system so that hitting the power button shuts down with no prompt === Darren is now known as Guest637 [00:47] superm1: around? [00:50] keybuk: o hai [00:50] hello [00:51] I rebased the mountall patches against 0.1.6 a few days ago for easy applying. :-) [00:51] if you put them in bzr, it would be even easier [01:10] doko, it looks like migrating silo to GCC 4.4 broke it [01:10] doko, my SPARC won't boot with the newer SILO binary, I'll continue to debug but :-/ [01:12] doko, (I also have confirmation of it occuring on another persons machine, same extact issue) === YDdraigGoch is now known as Richie [02:28] NCommander: gcc-4.3 is still in Main .... [02:56] anyone in ubuntu-release around? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bicyclerepair/+bug/434991 [02:56] Launchpad bug 434991 in bicyclerepair "Sync bicyclerepair 0.9-6 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] [03:09] There's a bicyclerepair package?? === Sp4rKy is now known as Guest91519 [03:15] It's unlikely to be what you are guessing it is. [03:19] <[reed]> Darxus: http://bicyclerepair.sourceforge.net/ [03:19] I checked aptitude show bicyclerepair. [03:20] So any opinions on removing azureus's popup that asks for money? It's GPLed. [03:20] Remove it. [03:21] ScottK: Remove the popup? [03:22] Yes. [03:22] Excellent, thanks. [03:22] (I realize this won't make karmic.) [03:23] Why not? [03:23] Sounds like a bug fix to me. [03:24] ScottK: And you believe it will be accepted into universe? [03:24] Yep. [03:24] Thanks. [03:31] Looks like I can just insert a return() at the top of checkForDonationPopup() in azureus2/org/gudy/azureus2/ui/swt/donations/DonationWindow.java [03:31] Wonder what this thing is like to build :/ [03:31] hey has anyone here used MPC as a build system? [03:35] or Scons or cmake? [03:36] dtchen: Do you have any more pulse stuff lined up, or should I go ahead and push your changes? [03:40] That azureus stuff was intended for -motd. [03:59] Hi guys, I have to make some kernel packages which need to be deployed for use on Xen guests using the latest kernel from kernel.org. Where is the best place to learn to package this ? [04:41] ArneGoetje [04:41] you there? [04:43] LLStarks: yep [04:43] about the ttf-tahoma bug [04:43] LLStarks: yes [04:43] you said that ubuntu tries to accommodate everyone [04:43] LLStarks: no. [04:44] but as i just commented, the current behavior is a regression [04:44] LLStarks: I said, we try to provide sensible default settings that work for most users. [04:44] that default has been ruined in karmic [04:44] it was fine in jaunty. [04:45] LLStarks: therefor it's not a regression. And hinting issues are definetely user specific configuration issues. [04:45] this is a fresh install [04:45] with upgrades [04:45] LLStarks: the hinting settings were the same in Jaunty [04:45] bad rendering is replicated on other hardware [04:46] LLStarks: whether you prefer slight, medium or full hinting is your personal preference [04:46] it's only on certain sites [04:46] i don't want system-wide changes [04:47] you saw my attachment, right? [04:47] LLStarks: you are talking about websites, right? [04:47] yes [04:48] http://launchpadlibrarian.net/32285454/wrong.png [04:48] LLStarks: if the same website renders differently on a fresh Jaunty and fresh Karmic with the exact same fontconfig configuration in /etc/fonts/conf.d/, then it's a bug in firefox. [04:49] if that was the case, then firefox 3.0 wouldn't be affected. [04:49] but it is [04:50] LLStarks: IIRC there had been changes to the rendering settings in firefox3.0 [04:50] chromium and opera are affected [04:51] LLStarks: can you replicate the same behavior in other applications, like gedit? [04:51] no. only websites afaik. [04:51] across many browsers [04:52] LLStarks: then it's an issue with those browsers, IMHO [04:52] or this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.2/+bug/412195/comments/27 [04:52] Launchpad bug 412195 in wine1.2 "ttf-tahoma-replacement makes some web-sites look ugly" [Undecided,Fix released] [04:53] LLStarks: no, it's definetely not a font issue, if the same font is rendered fine in other applications. [04:56] LLStarks: you said yourself, that only browsers are affected... [04:56] afaik [04:56] LLStarks: does it happen only with some websites, or are all websites which use Tahoma affected? [04:57] i'm not sure. [04:57] only some websites though [04:57] not sure about tahoma [04:57] view source doesn't list fonts. [04:58] LLStarks: you can test by creating a custom HTML file, set the font to use explicitely and lod it into the browser to see if you can reproduce the issue. [04:59] LLStarks: if you are not sure that it's because of Tahoma, how come you insist on that bug report? [04:59] i honestly don't know. what i do know is that fixing this issue made things worse for certain sites. [05:00] it's ugly. [05:01] yes, calling tahoma produces the error. [05:01] just tested. [05:01] LLStarks: LLStarks does it also happen in other non-browser applications? [05:02] how could i test that? [05:02] one sec. [05:02] LLStarks: open gedit, set the font to Tahoma and type some text [05:04] lemme screenshot [05:05] arne. http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/6543/tahomatest.png [05:05] * ArneGoetje is looking [05:06] LLStarks: where is the error? [05:06] it looks fine there. but it strains my eyes in the browser. [05:06] it's as if the wrong font is being called. [05:07] LLStarks: then the rendering in the browser and in gedit are different. can you try to open the file in oowriter? [05:09] http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/3212/test2l.png [05:09] a font shouldn't look that bad at size 10 [05:12] LLStarks: if you go to System->Preferences->Appearance->Fonts and click on Details..., what settings do you have there? [05:12] subpixel, slight, rgb [05:12] default. [05:13] LLStarks: ok, can you please post the output of 'ls /etc/fonts/conf.d/' into a pastebin? [05:14] http://pastebin.com/m6e479aac [05:16] is it possible my home partition is interfering? [05:16] LLStarks: ok, please paste the output of 'fc-match -v Tahoma' into a pastebin [05:16] alguien que able español [05:16] por favor [05:16] http://pastebin.com/m3ddf65c9 [05:17] Benja: #ubuntu-es might help [05:18] LLStarks: please try the following: sudo ln -s /etc/fonts/conf.avail/10-autohint.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/ and then compare again [05:19] compare what? [05:19] LLStarks: how it looks [05:19] * mase_wk sighs [05:19] alguien que able español [05:19] por fa [05:20] Benja: no ables español. #ubuntu-es [05:20] :| [05:20] vaya sos mujer [05:20] looks more or less the same [05:21] que coño [05:21] decis [05:21] arnegoetje. it's not exclusively tahoma. [05:22] can i pm you a picture to better demonstrate. [05:22] LLStarks: sure [05:23] Benja: Sea cortés. Hay un canal español dedicado [05:23] hey can anyone recommend any good cmake tutorials/resources? [05:23] im having a hard time finding anything decent online [05:23] glick: can you let me know if you find one :) [05:24] the cmake book? [05:24] i think he said good :) [05:24] grrr its so frustrating that there is not good documentation on this popular tool [05:25] glick: i sat down to try and learn it but got nowhere in an hour [05:25] its not that popular ;) [05:25] it is less popular than it should be. [05:25] i guess they dont want people to use their stuff [05:25] I think its about as popular as it should be :) [05:25] the kde guys make good use of it [05:26] lifeless: do you know of a better tool? [05:28] i guess they purposefully have crappy documentation cause they want you to buy courses from them on how to use it [05:30] guess ill fiddle around with it for another half hour, then i have to read for class :( [05:33] has anyone here heard of the MPC build system? [05:34] Hi! Is there a way to assemble an URL from sources.list and web sites specified by the URLs contained within it? Lets say I found in Packages.gz that udev package Filename is: pool/main/u/udev/udev_141-1_i386.deb. What is the exact URL to this package so that I can use wget to fetch it? [06:19] good morning [06:37] ArneGoetje: do you think you could take a look at bug 434054? [06:37] Launchpad bug 434054 in thaifonts-scalable "Waree font too high compared to Tahoma" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434054 [06:38] also I'm not sure if I understand bug 434176 correctly... is it good enough to replace ttf-bitstream-vera with ttf-dejavu? [06:38] Launchpad bug 434176 in vdr-plugin-burn "Package uninstallable due to dependency on removed ttf-bitstream-vera" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434176 [06:38] (replace it as a depends) [06:44] asac: if you could take a look at bug 424727 at some stage, that'd be great [06:44] Launchpad bug 424727 in tuxguitar "Please build tuxguitar with xulrunner 1.9.1 for karmic" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/424727 [06:51] Looks like something crashing in Soyuz. It's been a coupld of hourse since any newly uploaded build started.... [06:53] hum... there's just a OOo build that's been running for 2 days on armel [06:53] what type of package should ss12 be ? (single binary, multiple binary, library, kernel module or cdbs?) [06:54] im trying to build it ..so can you please help [06:55] dholbach: Yes and look how many builds are waiting. [06:56] wrapster: If you are working on a package you hope to eventually get into Ubuntu, #ubuntu-motu is a better channel to ask packaging questions. [06:56] scottk [06:56] ok thanks [06:57] what does "failed to upload" mean in LP speak? [06:59] ScottK, would you set bug #435015 to won't fix? It sounds like the reporter is describing the expected behavior of python2.6. I asked in #ubuntu-bugs and they sent me here :) [06:59] Launchpad bug 435015 in python2.6 "python2.6 fails to create or use site-packages" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/435015 [06:59] porthose: I don't think they are. [07:00] ok ty [07:00] The point of moving packaged stuff to dist-packages was so that unpackaged stuff could use site-packages without conflict. [07:00] Did someone raise this to IS already? [07:00] lool: Not that I know of [07:01] porthose: I'm sure doko_ will look at it and give us the answer at some point. [07:02] I'm sure he will so I will leave it for him :) [07:02] ScottK: sample package? [07:02] I checked pango1.0 and libgnome uploaded overnight and they were fine [07:03] lool: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/quassel/0.5.0~rc1+vcshead090922-0ubuntu1 [07:03] thanks [07:03] That was upload an hour ago. [07:05] So I raised the /builders beings idle with builds in queue and quassel not starting anywhere [07:06] probably the daemon process on the buildds hung again [07:06] ScottK: The high number of builds on i386 might be a mass archive rebuild in some special archive [07:06] I dont remember its URL but there's a rebuild of ubuntu going on since some days [07:07] lool: Yes, that's on the PPA buildds. [07:07] But they should run only when no regular PPA builds are waiting. [07:08] No idea why the distro buildds would be stuck [07:08] Good morning === porthose is now known as porthose|afk [07:27] excuse me, is anyone here familier with cmake? [07:28] i have a structure question [07:28] #cmake [07:28] yeah no one is there thats awake [07:28] glick: you might be better asking in #kubuntu-devel or #cmake === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [07:29] thanks [07:58] dholbach: what is missing on bug 434176? [07:58] Launchpad bug 434176 in vdr-plugin-burn "Package uninstallable due to dependency on removed ttf-bitstream-vera" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434176 [08:04] What would be the best way to check whether or not a given package is installed from a script? [08:05] soreau, by querying dpkg I guess [08:11] liw: dpkg I just shows dpkg: need an action option [08:17] dholbach: bug 434054 looks also good to me... [08:17] Launchpad bug 434054 in thaifonts-scalable "Waree font too high compared to Tahoma" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434054 [08:17] hey the include_directories() option in cmake, is that just for header files or for implementation files as well? [08:25] soreau, the manpage should give you the options you need, depending on what you need to do [08:26] ArneGoetje: I was more wondering if dejavu was a drop-in replacement of vera-bitstream [08:27] or if there was anything else required [08:27] liw: I read the dpkg man page and not really coming up with anything useful. The best I can come up with is maybe dpkg -l|grep |grep ii [08:27] liw: I would like to know the syntax to use 'I' though [08:29] soreau, have you looked at --status ? [08:29] soreau: dpkg -l | grep ^ii; or if you want to be more robust use dpkg-query -s and look for "Status:" [08:32] liw: Well that works to but I guess I was just looking for a 'cleaner' way of doing it. Can you tell me what you were talking about with your original suggestion dpkg I? I could get that to work at all [08:32] soreau, er, what? [08:33] [01:25:28] soreau, by querying dpkg I guess <- how do I do that [08:34] soreau, I am not understanding your confusion [08:35] soreau, you just told me that running dpkg --status works for you, what is the problem? [08:35] liw: Well I remember one time someone showed me a dpkg command to list all installed packages with no additional info. Just a list of strictly package names [08:35] But I can't figure out for the life of me what it was [08:36] dholbach: dejavu is based on bitstream vera with greater coverage, so yes, it is a drop-in replacement [08:36] Now I am wishing I had made a note of it [08:36] ArneGoetje: so no changes are necessary - the font will just be "picked up"? [08:37] liw: I found it now.. it was --get-selections [08:37] liw: Thanks for your help [08:38] dholbach: that, I don't know. It depends on if the application explicitely queries the font file or not. It should not do that of course... [08:38] hrm === Guest72906 is now known as fatal^ [08:40] dholbach: but if it's only about the metrics, it should work [08:42] ScottK: hmm, please ask pitti or somebody who merged cdbs [08:59] pitti: regarding bug 431823 (freeflying pinged me about the patch of lidaobing): do we still need pre-depends of some kind? [08:59] Launchpad bug 431823 in ibus-table-wubi "the dependent packages are too large" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/431823 [09:00] is the patch from bug 372874 going to be included in karmic? [09:00] Launchpad bug 372874 in hal "[ThinkPads] No brightness-notification - Bug in generic get_brightness function" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/372874 [09:02] james_w: I just noticed bzr bd during fetching orig tarball: [09:02] tar -xjf transmission-1.75.tar.bz2 [09:02] tar -cf - transmission-1.75 | gzip -9 > transmission_1.75.orig.tar.gz [09:02] james_w: wouldn't a mere bunzip2/gzip9 be better (keeping the tar as it is)? === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [09:07] pitti: I just fell out of the internet... did you reply? if not... take your time :) [09:07] dholbach: didn't yet, sorry [09:07] as I said... take it easy - it's still only 10:07 [09:14] cjwatson: thanks for new debootstrap === asac_ is now known as asac [09:17] cjwatson, slangasek: do you have an opinion about moving bicyclerepair to universe? (bug 434991) [09:17] Launchpad bug 434991 in bicyclerepair "Sync bicyclerepair 0.9-6 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434991 [09:20] ohhh sponsors! [09:20] * lifeless seeks more +1s [09:21] dholbach: yes, we still need that for lzma, let me check [09:21] dholbach: Pre-Depends: dpkg (>= 1.10.27ubuntu1) [09:21] lidaobing, freeflying: you will need a pre-depends too ^ [09:22] dholbach, lintian 没有报错，我以为已经不需要了 [09:22] dholbach, lintian does not warning on this, so I thought it no longer needed in karmic [09:22] lidaobing: haha, you're speacking chinese :) [09:23] freeflying, sorry, i thought here is #ubuntu-zh [09:23] lidaobing: it'll be necessary for upgrades [09:24] dholbach, OK, i'll fix it and reupload in today [09:24] super [09:24] gracias === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth [09:35] pitti: I want your +1. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgetopt++/+bug/434927 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/config-manager/+bug/434943 [09:35] Launchpad bug 434927 in libgetopt++ "FFe: Sync libgetopt++ 0.0.2-p22-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] [09:54] hey how do i send compiler options to the compiler using cmake? [10:03] Errr... Can't I file bugs directly on Launchpad anymore? Seriously? [10:04] ah. I need to add ?no-redirect to the URL. That's really annoying. [10:04] asac: gracias [10:04] welcome [10:04] soren: alt-f2 "ubuntu-bug " [10:05] dholbach: "directly on Launchpad" [10:05] it will directly open a launchpad bug ;-) [10:05] soren: yes. its a bit annoying that you get redirected ... so you cannot even just append it afterwards ;) [10:06] asac: Exactly. *grumble* [10:07] dholbach, when firefox doesn't crash or when your proxy doesn't block apport and when you are wanting to send details on the box you are using which might be not the one having the issue [10:07] if firefox crashes, you need to mail [10:08] to mail what? [10:08] the bug report [10:08] apport could give you instructions for that, but it'd be tough as you can't add your GPG key to LP without a browser :) [10:08] there is an open bug about not redirecting bugcontrol [10:08] that's what we need ;-) [10:09] I think it'd be better if we fixed all the issues with ubuntu-bug first :) [10:09] dholbach: bicyclerepair> I have no opinion on it [10:09] and make use of it [10:10] dholbach: ubuntu-bug clearly isn't always appropriate, though [10:10] dholbach: consider: "I can't install Ubuntu, here's why" [10:11] Or "I have this problem on one of my servers, and want to report it from my laptop". [10:11] right, I'm just saying that before we say "ok, just drop the redirect for us" is not going to help us fix the biggest issues with it [10:11] pitti: are you sure that's not a get-orig-source rule? [10:11] james_w: whoops, indeed it is; thanks [10:14] dholbach, my issue with ubuntu-bug is not bugs, is that it's slower for me than using the web ui and not required to open for example workflow bugs for desktop upgrades [10:14] seb128: AIUI it's an experiment now to find issues like the ones we talked about above [10:15] yes, not discussing that [10:15] hi, what do you use to make your UI mockup like at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD#software-sources ? [10:15] inkscape ? [10:15] you seem to argue that I'm wrong wanting to not use it though [10:15] no [10:16] I just say "let a few of us not be redirected" won't help us fix issues that a lot of users are going to have soon [10:17] gotcha [10:17] * seb128 hugs dholbach [10:17] * dholbach hugs seb128 back :) [10:17] the main issue out of the firefox crash asac should fix soon is people having valid reason to not use apport [10:18] as long as the experiment doesn't have a predetermined outcome. What is required to consider it a failure and drop the redirect? [10:18] we probably need to get a middle way, it having a button to open a bug anyway on the redirect page for example [10:19] yes, it takes you to a wiki page that tells you how to do it by URL hacking if you read really carefully, buried about half-way down [10:19] that's definitely nowhere near good enough [10:19] * lifeless hugs file-by-mail [10:19] No, greacemonkey cuts the mustard on an individual level [10:19] it needs to be right up top - at which point I wonder if it will make any difference at all, since people will just press the big button [10:19] err greasemonkey [10:19] individual's not a problem [10:20] what about a url handler [10:20] my thought experiment is this: [10:20] in fireforx [10:20] like filebug: [10:20] lifeless: worthless if you can't file from Ubuntu [10:20] harobed: I think mpt draws them by hand ;) [10:21] * a user is having problems installing Ubuntu, and goes to file a bug from another machine [10:21] * we redirect them to a big wiki page preaching about how they should use tools they don't have [10:21] * they think "sod this, they obviously don't want my help" and give up [10:21] cjwatson: I was thinking it could be a little smart, and show the bug filing form if that handler didn't get run [10:21] Ng: ok and scanned [10:21] harobed, yes, I drew that by hand and scanned it. Contrast increased using the Curves function in Gimp. [10:22] I still think someone there should be an mpt gtk theme ;) [10:22] -someone [10:23] mpt: ok, your mockup are very nice [10:23] cjwatson: I agree with your gedanken. A similar run I ran into a little while back was a upstream developer who gets their package packaged in Debian via -mentors; faced with the hurdles that sync bugs want they had given up. [10:24] cjwatson: I pointed them at request sync, and now they are happy [10:24] * Daviey edits h.u.c/community/ReportingBugs to include a paypal link to "get your bug fixed faster" :). [10:25] that's not a bad idea [10:26] alt-f2 doesn't work in karmic :/ [10:27] virtuald: ztrl-alt-F2 [10:28] hehe [10:28] alt-f2 is help, or something [10:28] it's run application [10:28] oh, well it works for me [10:28] in karmic? === doko_ is now known as doko [10:29] something approximating it [10:29] cjwatson: could I interest you in three sync requests; one (bicyclerepair) that needs discussion about whether to demote it to universe or promote vim-addon-manager [10:29] cjwatson: and two trivial ones [10:34] lifeless: sure? [10:35] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bicyclerepair/+bug/434991 [10:35] Launchpad bug 434991 in bicyclerepair "Sync bicyclerepair 0.9-6 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] [10:35] thats the problem one [10:36] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgetopt++/+bug/434927 https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/config-manager/+bug/434943 are trivial seeking a second +1 [10:36] Launchpad bug 434927 in libgetopt++ "FFe: Sync libgetopt++ 0.0.2-p22-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,New] [10:43] Hi all. Is there a file that I can view/access where Synaptic keeps its proxy settings? [10:47] Dyllan: yes, but its kept in /root/.synaptic by default [10:47] Dyllan: it will use the gconf proxy settings though in ubuntu [10:48] mvo_, thanks ill look into that. [10:49] lifeless: I can't say I have any problem moving brm to universe [10:50] lifeless: hi [10:50] I'm pretty sure its in main cause 'its python' [10:50] pitti: hi, I snagged cjwatson :) [10:50] vim-addon-manager is useful enough of course, if you install other things that need it [10:50] Dyllan: what do you need it for (out of curisosity) [10:50] but I think this is the first time it's come up so I guess it's not otherwise required yet [10:50] yes, it is in main because it's python [10:51] lifeless: right, seems ScottK beat me to it; sorry for delay [10:51] pitti: two +1's are needed :P [10:51] pitti: ScottK was the first [10:51] pitti: we'll need two on the bicyclerepair one [10:51] cjwatson: I'm happy either way; I have not particular suggestions to offer [10:52] rdepends on vim-addon-manager isn't hugely enlightening [10:52] mvo_, Well I have +-10 mobile ubuntu users, basically staff who have ubuntu installed on their laptop and move to different locations, each location requiring different proxy settings for Thunderbird/Firefox, and changes to the /etc/hosts file. [10:52] mvo_, So i created a program that changes this for them very easily by then selecting their location, it applies all setting to TB/FF and the /etc/hosts file. [10:53] Dyllan: proxy.pac is your friend, if you can use that approach. [10:53] lifeless: ok, done these two (getopt and config-mgr) [10:53] pitti: thank you! [10:53] mvo_, the only change i am missing now is the Synaptic proxy settings, depending on whether they are in the office our out of the office, so i wanted to know what file to edit to be able to achieve this. [10:54] lifeless: I don't mind having bicyclerepair in universe either; it's equally useful there, and we don't _really_ maintain it anyway [10:54] lifeless, yes for sure, although I have preferred to write my own from scratch and customize it to our company's needs, but thanks for the info. [10:55] pitti: no, clearly ;P - it was broken in vim for two releases till I got a round TUIT [10:55] cjwatson: as you are archive admin today, might looking what happned to mono 2.4.2.3+dfsg-2? 3 weeks ago we synced, got lost. Yesterday synced again and still missing :\ [10:55] lifeless: I move it to universe and ack the sync [10:56] cjwatson: ^ if you could do the second +1 I'd be much obliged [10:57] how do you know what name to put for the package? and what do they mean by package? [10:57] in cmake [10:57] for the option find_package [10:57] glick: #cmake please [10:57] yaeh cmake is dead [10:58] or #kde-devel or whatever its called [10:58] thoght someone in here might know [10:58] glick: its not particularly ontopic here [10:58] sorry, i figured, being in a devel channel, someone in here might know [10:58] sorry [10:58] Dyllan: ok, using gconf (via gcooltool --set) should work I think [10:59] glick: they may, but you've had no indication of that over an 8 hour or so window of questions. I think that if someone here does know, they are keeping it very quiet :) [11:00] mvo_, excellent thank you. [11:00] lifeless, someone coulda come in that knows :P [11:00] pitti: you know, I'm being archive admin this morning, you can do something else rather than preempting me when I'm already looking into something ... ;-) [11:00] cjwatson: that was my fault I suspect; sorry. [11:01] pitti can read scrollback :) [11:01] :) [11:01] I'm waiting for my browser to reboot [11:01] do you have many tabs? [11:01] cjwatson: sorry, it wasn't clear to me that you were going to [11:01] lifeless: yes [11:02] me too. I find that 'network down, start browser, network up' works rather well. [11:03] I just hit escape to stop all the tabs loading after a while. firefox-3.5 is better at remembering the URLs even if I do that before it had managed to load any of the page at all [11:27] cjwatson: thank you! === cprov-afk is now known as cprov === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:12] YokoZar: the wine1.2-dbg package is empty - intentional? (accepted anyway) [12:12]