[01:09] <xivulon> cjwatson I can reproduce the problem in grub-emu, now I need to understand how to get debugging info
[02:10] <CIA-33> ubiquity: shtylman * r3471 trunk/ (4 files in 4 dirs): shift keys on keyboard display
[10:01] <kim0> Hi there ... I have the following line in my preseed
[10:01] <kim0> d-i pkgsel/include string ubuntu-xen-server virtualbox-3.0 dkms build-essential openssh-server iperf netperf bmon xfsprogs lvm2 xfsdump kpartx drbd8-utils drbd-dkms linux-headers-2.6.24-24-xen linux-headers-2.6.24-24 linux-headers-2.6.24-24-generic
[10:01] <kim0> that last pkg ... (linux-headers-2.6.24-24-generic) is causing an error
[10:02] <kim0> couldn't find package   linux-headers-2.6.24-24-genericdi
[10:02] <kim0> I dont know why this last "di" has been appended !
[10:03] <kim0> or if it's only something in the log
[10:03] <kim0> I believe I already have that package on the cd though
[11:14] <davmor2> cjwatson: is there anything I can do to access the wubi install to get logs etc everything I have tried has fallen down horrible :(
[14:14] <pmatulis> with the jaunty live cd, is it possible to install to external usb drive with grub also on external drive?
[14:14] <cjwatson> it should be *possible* but this is a standard area of difficulty
[14:14] <pmatulis> cjwatson: so currently not implemented?  or is there a bug?
[14:14] <cjwatson> if it doesn't work out of the box (which I think it will sometimes) you may need to edit /boot/grub/device.map and rerun grub-install
[14:15] <cjwatson> it's historically difficult to get grub to work 100% of the time with multiple disks
[14:15] <cjwatson> it depends on BIOS boot order in confusing ways
[14:15] <cjwatson> the problems are basically unfixable with grub1 but we're working on them in grub2
[14:15] <cjwatson> with jaunty, I suggest trying it and seeing what breaks :-) It should make a stab at it
[14:16] <pmatulis> ok, was about to ask about grub2
[14:16] <pmatulis> thanks
[14:41] <cjwatson> davmor2: well, I've reproduced your detection bug locally, at least. unfortunately I rebooted before I thought to investigate ...
[14:41] <cjwatson> but that should make it rather easier to fix
[14:41] <davmor2> cjwatson: this is for wubi yes?
[14:42] <cjwatson> no
[14:42] <cjwatson> just straightforward install, didn't detect vista or my other ubuntu installation
[14:42] <davmor2> ah this is for side-by-side then
[15:03] <cjwatson> just out of curiosity, whatever happened to the stock icons for Quit/Back/Forward in ubiquity?
[15:04] <davmor2> cjwatson: by the way clonezilla is excellent for backing up ntfs partitions
[15:05] <davmor2> cjwatson: pass evand would be the one to ask.  It's only had text for the majority of the release as far as I can remember
[15:23] <cjwatson> davmor2: hmm, this is odd, I could have sworn that we'd tested this with an additional /sys mount while running grub-installer
[15:23] <cjwatson> davmor2: but I reproduced the problem, then mounted /sys and that fixed it
[15:25] <davmor2> Yay
[15:25] <davmor2> so that might get fixed then?
[15:25] <cjwatson> yeah, that much is trivial to fix
[15:25] <cjwatson> I think I also see why our attempts to get more log information were vanishing into black holes, maybe
[15:26]  * cjwatson runs out for half an hour
[15:26]  * davmor2 hands cjwatson some better batteries for when he starts back up :)
[15:58] <tjaalton> is it possible to use both a kickseed for stuff it supports, and preseed for rest?
[16:00] <cjwatson> yep, absolutely
[16:00] <cjwatson> use the Ubuntu 'preseed' command extension in your Kickstart file
[16:01] <tjaalton> cjwatson: nice, thanks
[16:01] <tjaalton> I'm hating Altiris already..
[16:09] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3472 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py):
[16:09] <CIA-33> ubiquity: Mount /sys while running grub-installer, since os-prober needs to look
[16:09] <CIA-33> ubiquity: in /sys/block (LP: #430141).
[16:14] <CIA-33> grub-installer: cjwatson * r811 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog grub-installer): grub_write_divider is specific to GRUB Legacy; don't call it for GRUB 2.
[16:17] <CIA-33> grub-installer: cjwatson * r812 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.43ubuntu3
[16:17] <davmor2> cjwatson: I'll try that out tomorrow then see if we can cross that one off the list :)
[16:18]  * davmor2 wonders if that might fix wubi too we'll find out tomorrow
[16:20] <CIA-33> casper: cjwatson * r691 trunk/debian/casper.install: consistent whitespace
[16:20] <cjwatson> davmor2: can you just elaborate briefly on what's wrong with wubi for you?
[16:21] <CIA-33> casper: cjwatson * r692 trunk/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Tell mkinitramfs that casper needs usplash (LP: #434980).
[16:21] <davmor2> I wrote a fresh bug for it I'll get the number in a second.   Basically only the memtest options show up in grub menu.  However they point to the wrong place so they do nothing.
[16:22] <cjwatson> I didn't notice that they were in the wrong place, but I've already fixed the fact that they're the only things that show up
[16:22] <cjwatson> lupin 0.24
[16:22] <davmor2> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/wubi/+bug/435153
[16:25] <davmor2> burns a fresh cd to see what version of lupin is on it
[16:32] <CIA-33> partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r715 ubuntu/debian/ (13 files in 2 dirs): merge from Debian 72
[16:36] <CIA-33> partman-partitioning: cjwatson * r716 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 72ubuntu1
[16:44] <davmor2> cjwatson: right lupin-casper0.24 is in today's iso so I'm just running wubi now I'll let you know in a minute :)
[16:45] <cjwatson> davmor2: now, the CD still has an old wubi binary
[16:45] <cjwatson> so it won't actually *work*
[16:46] <cjwatson> as in it almost certainly won't be able to boot Ubuntu
[16:46] <cjwatson> but it should have the menu entries ...
[16:46] <davmor2> okay
[16:46] <cjwatson> I mailed Evan yesterday evening about getting it upgraded
[16:47] <cjwatson> I haven't seen him today though
[16:47] <davmor2> cjwatson: did you mail xivulon too?
[16:47] <cjwatson> yes
[16:47] <davmor2> cool :)
[16:47] <cjwatson> Evan does the builds that actually land on the CD though
[16:47] <cjwatson> xivulon has some other bug that I can't reproduce
[16:47] <davmor2> ah okay
[16:48] <davmor2> no I don't think I could either
[16:58] <davmor2> cjwatson: I seem to be in grub's shell
[17:01] <cjwatson> what does it say?
[17:03] <CIA-33> usb-creator: rgreening * r218 trunk/ (debian/changelog usbcreator/backends/devicekit/backend.py): In devicekit backend, ensure mount is empty string '' rather than empty dbus.Array to prevent crashes in os.statvfs from misc.py
[17:06] <davmor2> cjwatson: no error just the grub shell
[17:08] <davmor2> cjwatson: top of the screen starts Gnu Grub version 1.97~beta2 and then carries on with a description of the shell
[17:13] <davmor2> cjwatson: wait for evands fix to go in and we'll see what happens then :)
[17:20] <cjwatson> davmor2: right, that means it's an old grub and there's no point investigating further for now
[17:20] <CIA-33> base-installer: cjwatson * r379 ubuntu/ (5 files in 2 dirs): Use DMI information if possible to determine memory size (LP: #413135).
[17:21] <davmor2> cjwatson: np's
[17:24] <CIA-33> base-installer: cjwatson * r380 ubuntu/dmi-available-memory.c: fix comment
[17:25] <CIA-33> base-installer: cjwatson * r381 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.101ubuntu5
[17:32] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3473 ubiquity/debian/ (changelog ubiquity.install-i386):
[17:32] <CIA-33> ubiquity: Install new dmi-available-memory program from base-installer
[17:32] <CIA-33> ubiquity: 1.101ubuntu5.
[17:34] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3474 ubiquity/debian/ (3 files): Don't respawn Upstart jobs on exit status 1.
[17:37] <davmor2> cjwatson: todays alternate is crashing on setting up base install.  debootstrap issue bug 435376  is this an app issue or something more serious?
[17:38] <cjwatson> hmm
[17:38] <cjwatson> I'll have a look, thanks
[17:38] <davmor2> do you need any more of the logs?
[17:39] <cjwatson> shouldn't, thanks
[17:40] <cjwatson> ah, need to merge base-installer 1.102
[17:41]  * cjwatson <- careless, apparently
[17:42] <davmor2> cjwatson: no surely not, it must of been the evil package stealing monkey you know it's always his fault ;)
[17:46] <CIA-33> base-installer: cjwatson * r382 ubuntu/ (11 files in 5 dirs): merge from Debian 1.102
[17:50] <CIA-33> base-installer: cjwatson * r383 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.102ubuntu1
[23:02] <CIA-33> tasksel: cjwatson * r1420 ubuntu/ (10 files in 2 dirs):
[23:02] <CIA-33> tasksel: Update Ubuntu tasks from seeds, adding edubuntu-dvd-live,
[23:02] <CIA-33> tasksel: ubuntu-edu-preschool, ubuntu-edu-primary, ubuntu-edu-secondary,
[23:02] <CIA-33> tasksel: ubuntu-edu-tertiary, ubuntustudio-font-meta, and uec tasks.
[23:04] <CIA-33> tasksel: cjwatson * r1421 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.73ubuntu21