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mikubuntucan't tell if i'm signd in to xubuntu .. i see a userlist, but no chatter01:01
mikubuntucould it just be quiet01:01
mikubuntuTheSheep: am i 'live'?01:02
mikubuntu:)01:03
Balsaqueanyone tried installing xubuntu or any other linux on older apple desktops?04:01
zerothisI'm about to head off to trade school to learn to make videogames (or not). I'm determined to remain committed to Libre Software. Does anybody have any advice for me? Does anybody know about Full Sail University?05:14
zerothisDoes Canonical have any ties (at all) to Full Sail?05:14
maduserprobably not05:15
Balsaquehey techie i got it all done!!!05:33
techiesweet05:33
techiehow are you liking buntu?05:33
Balsaquelove it05:33
Balsaquetook 6 hours due to 349 updates05:34
techiehehe, i cant update atm.... im almost out of bandwidth05:34
techieso im stuck running 8.1005:34
Balsaquelirerally saved a dead useless 11 yeard old dell05:34
techieyeah05:34
techieyou got a music collection on another computer?05:35
techieif so you can install firefly media server and stream it using songbird05:35
Balsaquewhen i put the 8.10 in it offered 9.04, but the folks on here said do the 349 updates 1sr then do 9.04 if i want it so i did that and still havent done the 9.0405:35
techiekk05:35
Balsaquei got that altec lansing speaker setup wit a big sub woofer...05:36
techiei have 340 updates waiting05:36
techiehow big?05:36
Balsaquei would of thoought simply doing 9.04 would take care of all those/05:37
techiehow big is your woofer?05:37
Balsaquei dont know..maybe a foot and a half acrooss just fills the whole house with sound05:38
Balsaque3 speaker system05:38
techiecool05:38
techiei got a custom 2.1 setup05:38
Balsaqueyeah i play you tube rock videos and play alongwith my elec guitar05:39
Balsaquelogitech?05:39
techienah05:39
techiethe left and right speakers are running off of a yamaha home theatre AMP05:39
Balsaquei really dont know how good mine is but i can crank it all the way it doesnt crackle stays clear and LOUD05:39
techieand my woofer runs its own amp from the yamahas output05:39
Balsaquei got the turtle beach montegeo sound card in the computer also when i bought it05:40
Balsaquesounds like yours is even more powerful05:41
Balsaqueso now i want to burn xubuntu on a disc for my next project but all i have is dvds will it burn a cd on a dvd05:42
techieyeah, you can burn a cd iso to a DVD providing you have a dvd burner05:42
techiekind of a waste though05:42
techiea 4.7gig disc with only 700mb on it05:43
Balsaqueyeah i know...says cd burner on this puter05:43
Balsaquehave to a cd05:43
Balsaquei want to buy one of those weird lookin g4 desktops and put xubuntu in it05:44
techiehey, what IRC client are you using?05:44
Balsaqueweb chat frenode net05:44
techieyou gotta remember if you go for a G4 you need to get the ppc version05:44
Balsaquewhats that05:44
techieyou should download and install xchat05:44
Balsaqueso it is easier to chat?05:45
techiethats the version required to run on computers that use the powerpc architecture05:45
techieyeah05:45
techiehit alt+F205:45
Balsaqueso how did i do this05:45
techieand type sudo apt-get install xchat05:45
techieand run it in a terminal05:46
Balsaquebut right now i am on a computer i dont own so i cant05:46
Balsaquecan do it on my dell sometime05:46
techieoh, your at work05:46
techieim a student05:46
techieso im home earlier05:46
Balsaqueno...my old dell is in the basemnet too many wires...when the wife brings the lapper home is use it upstairs-wireless05:47
Balsaquegets cold down there....spent 6 hours fixing the dell took a break05:47
Balsaquenice up here in the living room on this wireless mac05:48
techiehehe05:48
techieis the dell a laptop or desktop?05:49
Balsaquedesktop05:49
techieaah05:49
Balsaquegot it aug of 1998 from dell05:49
techieif you find a free powerpoint in a corner you could run it upstairs05:50
Balsaquewhats that05:50
techiea wall socket05:50
techiea power outlet05:50
Balsaquethe dell you mean05:50
techieyeah05:50
techiefind somewhere out of the way up against a wall then all the cables are hidden behind the computer05:51
Balsaqueyeah but it hard wired in wires all over heck speakers allkingf stuff printer wires...big mess05:51
Balsaquethen dust gets all over all the wires...i just like alpper up[ here05:51
Balsaqueold big dumb lookin monitor05:52
Balsaqueand it is white? and got dingy over the years05:52
Balsaquenow its like kinda turned tan05:52
techiehehe05:52
Balsaquei see those funky g4 mac desktops real cheap on the net ill bet they run linux better than my dell05:53
Balsaquethey are from2002 mine is 199805:53
techieyep05:53
techiebut you have to be careful about some of them05:54
Balsaque?05:54
techieget a slot loader rather than a tray loader05:54
Balsaque?05:54
techiethe original ones had a tray loading cd drive like a regular computer05:54
techiedont get one of those ones05:55
Balsaquethese have the weird round ones with the monitor on top05:55
techiebrb05:55
Balsaqueyou mean the ones that look like an old tv05:55
techieyeah05:55
techiethe jellybeans05:55
Balsaqueyep i dont want those05:55
Balsaquei want to do xubumtu next less footprint and supposedely does same stuff05:56
techieyeah05:57
Balsaquehey i found a guy with my exact same puter for sell for 59 bucks05:57
Balsaqueprolly take 25 noone is buyin it05:57
Balsaqueon ebay05:58
Balsaquetype in dell xps r40005:58
Balsaquethat is my tower05:58
Balsaquebut his is 8.4 g HD mine is 1005:58
Balsaqueand i put way more ram n05:58
Balsaquefree shipping too05:58
techiejust thinking if you wanted to be really tricky you could set up ssh with X forwarding and access your dell from the mac06:00
Balsaquesee your a real tech i dont know anyting about that06:00
techiehehe, im not a real tech, im still learning06:00
Balsaqueyeah but you fre inet i want to leran that sometime06:01
Balsaquelearn thea ausralia stuff i mean06:01
techielol, its not actually that hard06:01
techieits simply a secure tunnel06:01
Balsaqueso i can also get a whole bunch of free dells where i work06:02
Balsaquebusiness puters06:02
Balsaquethey give em away if you get a letter from a non proft business06:03
Balsaquesaw a guy haul 30 of em out yesterday06:03
techiecool06:03
Balsaquemaybe they do it where you live,,,do yu know abot this06:04
techienope06:04
Balsaqueheres how it works06:04
Balsaquebig corps but hundreds even thousands of dells at a time06:04
techiekk06:05
Balsaqueafter4-5 yrs they prefer to dump some of them indtead of upgrading so if you conmtact them they will have a policy...you get a letter from a non prift stating they want them06:05
Balsaquebut the nn profit will give you some for getting them in fsct they dont usually want any cause hte need OS'sc06:06
Balsaquethey dont know how to put in the OS06:07
Balsaquethat is wheer free linux comes in06:07
Balsaquesee the big corp wipes em clean of windows when they get rid iof em06:07
techieyep06:07
Balsaquethen the bog corp wites them off their taxes06:08
Balsaqueso i tried calling a local non proft i told i neede the letter they said they would give me the letter but they dont want old comouter with no OS06:08
techieoccasionally schools around here do that sort of thing, but its more of knowing the tech than a letter06:09
Balsaquecause they dont want to spen money buying windows and other stuu  like word06:09
Balsaqueyes same idea06:09
techiebut unfortunately none of the schools will be upgrading soon06:09
techiemy school upgraded half way through last year06:10
Balsaquetry big companies06:10
techiebig companies dont run through public domain around here06:10
techiethey all get sold off privately06:10
Balsaquei see06:10
techiehrmm, what machines are you able to get?06:11
techieim not interested in the whole machine, just the motherboard06:11
Balsaquethis place near me has 900 employees and at least a couple thousand dells in 3 buildings06:11
Balsaquethey are dell business puters gray color isee them all over ebay because they are doing the same thing i may do06:12
Balsaqueif you type in dell computer and nothing else they come up 1st on ebay06:12
Balsaquekinda bland looking but tough as heck06:13
Balsaquegsx's i think they were called06:13
Balsaquei use em all day at work they run xp pro real well and will be like a jet with ubuntu06:14
techieim looking for a new motherboard to replace my outdated one06:14
Balsaqueinfact some of the engineer in htere use unix or liniux06:14
Balsaquei am ust getting into this when i get my 1st batch i find you in here06:14
techiekk06:15
Balsaquegive you them06:15
Balsaquelike i say this guy i work got 3006:15
techieim always interested in parts and hard drives06:15
Balsaquehis were complete monitor key mouse but no OS06:15
techiei have enough monitors, mice and keyboards06:16
techieand i usually run my systems headless or without input06:16
Balsaqueill get you a mboard or two you teach met the tunnel trick06:19
techienote to self: be careful when choosing output video settings for mplayer, it may crash X06:22
techieomg, my buntu intsall is going bad06:24
Balsaqueno way06:24
techieyes way06:24
Balsaquehow doe s that happen06:24
techieit happens when windows dont open with a window manager06:25
Balsaqueso you still have windows06:25
techieand therefore they have no title bar which means you cant resize them or close them06:25
Balsaquethis mac osx 10.4.11 is smooottthhh06:27
techiehehe, im running that version on my powerbook06:27
techiehowever im running server edition06:27
Balsaqueso good is actually boring06:28
Balsaqueruns the same everyday no tinkering06:28
Balsaquehey i got an idea...ubuntu is non profit if they get me the letter i fiil my garage with computers and unbuntu people can  have em for free and ill kepp on ehere and there to fool arooung with06:31
Balsaque(whew poor typing skills here)06:33
techiei reckon that could work06:34
techielook around for your local LUG (linux users group)06:35
Balsaquei'll email ubuntu or linux06:35
Balsaqueproblem the people would have to pay shipping06:35
techieyeah, but thats cheaper than buying a pc06:36
Balsaquebut i bet sometime someone would pay shipping and get a bad one06:37
Balsaqueso i ship another one!06:37
Balsaquethey are tough though they never turn em off for years06:38
Balsaqueoptiplex and gsx stuff like that06:38
techiewelcome nikolam06:51
Balsaquewhen i was doing my install for awhile it was kinda like in DOS or something (black screen) and it flashed some words like "failed bios 1998 ctoff date 2000" any idea what that means06:56
Balsaque1998 cutoff i meant06:56
Balsaquemade me think i should update my bios or something06:57
Balsaque'you into thats tuff techie06:57
techiesorta06:58
techiei know stuff about bioses, how to configure them etc but i dont really specialise in them06:58
Balsaquei know i never updated it...since 1998 so i wonder if that would help my new ubuntu run better06:59
techieprobably not07:02
techieyou can if you want to07:02
Balsaquewell i dont know how dell will do it though07:03
Balsaquei dont want to mess with it if is no big deal though07:03
techieheya SiDi07:05
SiDihi07:06
Balsaquedoes that friefly media sonbird thing take up a lot of space on my lil 10g HD techie?07:09
techienope07:09
techieever used itunes music sharing?07:09
Balsaquecause when i was done i noticed i had used up 2.9 out 10 on my HD07:09
Balsaquefor 8.10 and 349 updates07:10
Balsaquenow i see xubuntu is only like 1.507:10
Balsaquewondering why i didnt do that one07:10
techiebrb, gonna jump on my laptop07:11
Balsaqueyup07:11
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Balsaqueanother thing ubuntu improved here...is now i can get cable internet. they would not put it in my house unless i upgraded away frm w9807:17
nikolamtechie, hello :) thanks07:24
techieokay im back, on my mac07:24
Balsaquewhat kinda man is it07:26
Balsaquemac*07:26
techiePowerBook G407:26
Balsaquethis is ibook g407:26
Balsaqueis it one of those aluminum ones07:27
techieyep07:27
Balsaquehow bis is the motor07:27
Balsaquebig*07:28
techie15 i think07:28
Balsaqueever run the new snow leopard07:28
techienope, i dont have a chance in hell of running leopard07:29
techieits a 400mhz cpu07:29
techiei would stick linux on it but i need to get the old versions07:30
techieactually that might be something for me to do07:30
techiei think i migght have an old 7.04 cd around somewhere07:31
Balsaquecant you put xubuntu on it07:31
techieyeah, but the graphics folds on anything recent07:31
Balsaquecause my dell is 400mgz with ubuntu07:32
Balsaque8.1007:32
techieyeah, but it probably has some form of graphics card07:32
techie'this thing has a measly 8mb card07:32
Balsaqueypu a realllly old one    ati xpert 98d 8mb 3d 2x agp07:33
Balsaquesame 8mb as yours?07:34
Balsaqueso we have the same 400 and same 8mb07:34
Techie-LAPTOPim on my desktop now07:38
Balsaquei wonder if i can stuff a bigger graphic in my dell07:38
Techie-LAPTOPbugger, i just realised im outta cd's that blows that plan out the window07:38
Techie-LAPTOPif its standard agp then yes07:38
Balsaquemaybe a lil 12807:38
Balsaquei ahve my original invoice in front of me and the books07:39
Techie-LAPTOPokay, brb gonna try Xubuntu 7.1007:39
Balsaquek07:39
Techie-LAPTOPtaht disc didnt work07:42
Techie-LAPTOPim booting into windows07:45
wormsxulla_hello09:02
wormsxulla_http://imgh.us/opera_menu_scrolling.jpg09:02
wormsxulla_i have this little problem with my two opera installations. their menu style is different, in opera 10, i need to click on each item to select it, and the mouse doesn't hightlight items when i hover them. i haven't been able to discover how to change this09:04
wormsxulla_i also don't know how this is called, either in english or french, so it's hard to search on search engines :)09:05
wormsxullawas there an answer to my question, i got disconnected09:16
wormsxulla?09:16
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Techiei reckon im gonna have to re install ubuntu next month09:28
Techieand on top of that ill also have to track down a version of xubuntu for my laptop09:29
_angelo_hello folks, I'm using xubuntu 9.04, from last update X won't start, in gdm's log file there's a message about MTRR12:28
_angelo_anyone can help me?12:28
_angelo_I have searched launchpad and google about it but didnt help12:29
sixnonepHi Guys how can I set up a network folder on Xubuntu??12:36
TheSheep!sshfs | sixnonep13:13
ubottusixnonep: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS13:13
TheSheepsixnonep: or do you mean the windows variety?13:13
sixnonepWell, I'm using Gnome on one box and XCFE on a lower spec box. Gnome has a "network" folder under places in the GUI, was wondering if I can install that on Xbuntu.13:15
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henryfranz2005hello14:11
XyrnaesBonjour!16:14
mnemochi, there is an "standard" file in /etc/modprobe.d/ for custom options?16:38
_angelo_hello! I'm using xubuntu 9.04, from last update xfce4 doesnt start, I see only a blue screen and a mouse pointer...I have searched launchpad but didnt help17:59
_angelo_anyone knows something about that?17:59
_angelo_I can provide more information if necessary18:00
TheSheepthe race condition is back? :(18:01
likemindeadTry this, _angelo_ : http://www.anujpathania.blogspot.com/2008/06/xubuntu-panels-disappear.html18:14
_angelo_likemindead, I will try - thanks18:15
oxyzhi there, can anyone help me?18:18
TheSheepunfortunately we ran out of batteries in our crystal ball, so we can't help you unless you tell us what's wrong18:20
TheSheepjust ask a question, and if anybody knows, they will answer18:20
_angelo_likemindead, it doesnt help...I cant access terminal and no items (except mouse pointer) are present on my desktop18:20
TheSheep_angelo_: you can switch to text consoles with alt+ctrl+f1 (switch back with alt+ctr+f7) and see what's blocking it18:21
TheSheep_angelo_: with 'ps a' command you can display all the processes you have18:22
oxyzhow do i update my graphics card and how i run games (window's games with wine)18:22
likemindeadBig questions, oxyz.18:24
likemindeadWhat's your graphics card?18:24
oxyzAti Radeon 9200 Series18:24
likemindeadGo to Restricted Drivers and install the ATI driver from there.18:25
likemindeadBut be warned, ATI doesn't support Linux well. :-\18:25
oxyzHow do i go there? im new :s18:25
likemindeadhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI18:25
Sysinew ATI:s are actually quite linux-friendly18:26
likemindeadReally? Nice!18:26
likemindeadAlso, oxyz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine18:26
Sysiwith nvidia you are stuck with restricted driver18:27
Sysieven though it works well18:28
oxyzi got xubuntu, so i do must install the  ubuntu 8.04 hardy? Right? I'm new in linux world :)18:28
TheSheepno18:28
TheSheepthere are a few differences, but most things are the same with xubuntu18:29
TheSheepthat's why we use the same instructions18:29
oxyzso what do i do to update the graphic card?18:29
oxyzbecause the instruction says to go to System, but i do not have system :x18:30
TheSheepapplications->system18:31
oxyzomg, im such a noob xD18:31
mnemochi, any hint about how to make Xubuntu show one desktop on each monitor (2 in my case) instead of half in one and half in the other?18:37
TheSheep!multihead18:38
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about multihead18:39
TheSheep!xinerama | mnemoc18:39
ubottumnemoc: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead18:39
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TheSheep!dualhead | mnemoc18:39
ubottumnemoc: Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama18:39
mnemocTheSheep: but isn't xinerama the half desktop in one monitor and half desktop on the other like i do have now?18:40
Guest75442hi will a core 2 duo 3.gig and 4 gig of ddr 2 ram run xubuntu nicely?18:40
TheSheepmnemoc: yes, you want the other one18:40
TheSheepmnemoc: I just didn't remember its tag18:40
TheSheepGuest75442: verily18:40
mnemocTheSheep: ah, cool, thanks!18:40
the_beavanyone know how i can get my keyboard controls (volume mainly) to work in xfce?  as they do in gnome?18:42
Guest75442there is no back doors to this os is there like windows?18:43
Guest75442have i got complete privacy/freedom18:44
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Besogonthe_beav, Doesn't xfce4-keyboard-settings help?18:46
TheSheepGuest75442: there are no backdoors we know about, but there may be security bugs we don't yet know18:47
TheSheepGuest75442: that's why there are security updates18:48
Guest75442TheSheep: this is a lot more secure/stable than windows though?18:48
the_beavBesogon, yeah that appears to be it18:48
wraagSorry to interrupt here, but I have a problem with my .Xmodmap not being implemented directly at startup. I have to manually go into terminal and type the command. How do I solve this?18:50
the_beavBesogon: got it working, thx....i knew it was something simple!18:52
TheSheepGuest75442: it's hard to tell, but you can compare http://secunia.com/advisories/product/21851/?task=statistics with http://secunia.com/advisories/product/22/?task=statistics18:52
TheSheepwraag: you can add the command to autostarted apps18:53
likemindeadSee http://whylinuxisbetter.net Guest75442. :)18:56
mnemocxfce4-keyboard-settings crashes every time i unplug my usb keyboard :<18:57
likemindeadLamerz18:57
mnemocthanks18:57
TheSheeplikemindead: that's not nice18:58
TheSheep!bug | mnemoc18:58
ubottumnemoc: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots18:58
* likemindead rolls eyes...18:58
balsaquerunning 8.10, was on ebay, got a pop saying: " need to install either adobe flash player OR Swfdec gnome OR Gnash swf"...anyone here know which is best for an old dell with ubuntu 8.10? i installed none and i srill viewed ebay items?18:59
wraagTheSheep: Thx! Not easy migrating from win to linux.18:59
TheSheepwraag: fortunately you never want to go back18:59
mnemocTheSheep: the problem is how to provide useful information to help them to fix the bug :)18:59
likemindeadI thought it was, wraag.18:59
likemindeadBut I'm simple.18:59
TheSheepmnemoc: I think there is some basic info behind that link, they wil lask for any specific info as needed19:00
mnemocdeal :)19:00
likemindeadFirefox, OpenOffice, Xchat, VLC, & Rhythmbox is all I need. :D19:00
TheSheeplikemindead: why not Chromium, Abiword, Irssi, VLC and Quod Libet? :)19:04
mnemocthere is any pps/ppt viewer in the abiword/gnumeric world yet?19:07
TheSheepmnemoc: ah, no, just pdfs19:08
Guest75442well ive made my mind up im switching lol19:08
TheSheepmnemoc: latex-beamer ftw :)19:08
TheSheepGuest75442: be aware that there are few games19:08
TheSheepGuest75442: and not all will work fine under wine19:09
Guest75442TheSheep: i quit gaming a while back now , to dedicate time to programming19:09
mnemocTheSheep: i don't make pps/ppt files, but people expect us to be able to see them19:09
Guest75442but i didnt know quake 4 was for linux tho :)19:09
TheSheepah, for programming linux is very nice, once you get rid of the IDEs :)19:09
mnemocspecially marketing people and project managers :/19:09
TheSheepmnemoc: that sucks, can you slip some poison into their coffee?19:10
mnemoc=)19:10
TheSheepbut what I mean, if you don't need ppt or other extra features, abiword is much faster19:11
likemindeadActually, TheSheep, I use Swiftfox, to be exact. ;)19:12
likemindeadIs Chromium stable enough to use?19:12
mnemocabsolutely19:12
mnemocit even runs flash by default in 32 and 64b now19:13
likemindeadRrrrreeeeeaaallllyyy...19:13
* likemindead is installing Chromium post haste.19:13
likemindeadAre you using a PPA?19:13
TheSheepit still crashes about once every 2 weeks for me19:13
TheSheepbut saves all the open tabs, so it's not that bad19:13
likemindeadInstall via a PPA?19:14
TheSheepyes19:14
likemindeadW00T19:14
mnemocmine gets updated from http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/19:14
likemindeadAlso, Abiword is abysmal. :-\19:15
TheSheepthere are two versions, google-chrome and chromium-browser19:15
TheSheepone is made by google, the other is made by community19:15
AshhhI have a question19:59
AshhhI have a .sh file19:59
Ashhhthat runs fine when executed from terminal window19:59
Ashhhis there a way I can make it so it runs when I double clikc on it19:59
AshhhI tried creating a launcher on desktop19:59
Ashhhthat says "bash ~/Desktop/script.sh"20:00
Ashhhand checked the run in terminal checkbox20:00
Ashhhbut it doesn't work, when I double click on it, terminal window opens and closes really fast20:00
Ashhhand I don't see the stuff that script's stupposed to do20:00
likemindeadCan you right-click the file and "make executable" ?20:09
Ashhhnopes20:11
Ashhhbut it does say "Execute" as the first option20:11
Ashhhand when I execute the .sh file20:11
Ashhhnothing happens20:11
Ashhhwhen I execute the launcher I made20:11
Ashhhit opens a terminal window and it goes away real fast20:12
likemindeadHmm...20:12
knomeare you sure the script should wait for input?20:12
Ashhhum20:14
Ashhh"wait for input"???20:14
Ashhhwhat's that mean20:14
knomei mean, if the script is run, the terminal window will close.20:14
Ashhhoh20:14
Ashhhyeah20:14
Ashhhif I run it in terminal20:14
Ashhhit asks for input20:14
Ashhhand makes a folder20:15
Ashhhand other stuff20:15
Ashhhbut if I run it using the launcher20:15
Ashhhit doesn't do any of those20:15
Ashhhhere's it20:15
Ashhhhttp://pastebin.com/d6f0f955220:15
AshhhI'm a noob20:15
Ashhhso don't yell at me20:16
knomeAshhh, what are you trying to achieve?20:16
Ashhhit asks for username20:17
Ashhhand then mounts that user's folder on a different computer20:17
knomeokay..20:19
Myrttiohai :-P20:20
Techiehaii everyone20:20
Ashhhthen I have another one20:20
knomehello Myrtti20:20
Ashhhwhich unmounts the folder using fusermount -u ~/Desktop/Files and deleted the Files folder20:20
Techieknome- had any experience with open source ATI drivers?20:22
knomeTechie, not really20:23
Ashhhso anyone can help me??20:23
Techiewhat do you need help with Ashhh ?20:23
Ashhh(3:14:50 PM) Ashhh: if I run it in terminal  it asks for input  and makes a folder  and other stuff  but if I run it using the launcher  it doesn't do any of those.  here's it http://pastebin.com/d6f0f9552  I'm a noob so don't yell at me20:24
Ashhhwhenusing launcher, it opens the terminal window but it closes real fast and doesn't do any of the things20:26
Ashhheven if I right click on the .sh file, and click on execute, it doesn't even open the terminal window.20:26
Techiei cnat think of why it would be acting differently between terminal and a launcher20:27
Ashhh:(20:27
Techiesorry man20:28
Ashhhit's cool20:28
AshhhIma ask on ubuntu channel20:28
Ashhh:)20:28
* Ashhh hugs Techie.20:28
Techiehey knome can you do something for me?20:29
knomeTechie, you can always ask... :)20:29
Techiechuck this link back to me after ive booted into buntu20:30
Techiehttp://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2008-July/073798.html20:30
Techieill brb20:30
techieknome, that link please20:33
knomehttp://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2008-July/073798.html20:34
knome:P20:34
techiethanks20:34
techienow comes the tricky part, attempting to set up the opensource ati drivers20:43
knome;)20:43
the_beavinstalled 64bit, I keeep my /home on a seperate partition, so all my settings were preserved...however, i can no longer change desktops with mouse wheel <i don't use compiz, or any sort of compositor>22:04
boscophi. I'm running xfce on ubuntu. after booting, I have no panels, I have to start them manually. why?22:48
_angelo_hello boscop, I have a quite similar problem22:50
boscopah22:50
_angelo_after an update, I can login but virtual desktop shows only a blue screen and a pointer22:50
boscopeven after another restart?22:50
_angelo_boscop, no...22:51
_angelo_what's your version of os?22:51
boscopjaunty22:51
_angelo_same version, here22:53
_angelo_what's the workaround that do you use, boscop ?22:57
boscop_angelo_: I started the panels manually22:58
boscopdo you have xfce, too?22:58
boscopdo you have access to a shell?22:59
_angelo_boscop, yes22:59
_angelo_I can access a tty terminal22:59
boscopthen you can start all the necessary processes23:00
_angelo_what are all processes that do I need to launch?23:01
boscopI would try all that start with xfce and seem important23:01
boscoplike xfce-panel23:01
boscoperr, xfce4-panel23:02
_angelo_what's the process that controls icons?23:04
_angelo_and desktop background...23:04
boscopif you type "xfce" in the shell and press TAB twice you should see all programs that begin with "xfce"23:06
boscopis xfdesktop running?23:08
_angelo_thanks, boscop23:16
_angelo_:)23:16
boscopwhat was the cause?23:16
_angelo_I dont know, really23:16
boscopjust in case I face this problem in the future :)23:17
_angelo_no errors in log files23:17
_angelo_I'm backing up ~/.config/xfce4 dir23:17
_angelo_bye23:21

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