sobi | Where can i find config-file on my file system for grub 1.97 included in Kubuntu 9.10 alpha6 ? | 00:38 |
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sobi | just need edit system-choosing delay time | 00:39 |
neversfelde | sobi: probably better to ask in #ubuntu | 00:42 |
txwikinger | ScottK: bug 435554 | 01:00 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 435554 in ichthux-meta "Need sponsorship for upload of new package of ichthux-meta" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/435554 | 01:00 |
shtylman | launchpad changed... | 01:03 |
shtylman | this is new... | 01:03 |
txwikinger | shtylman: yes.. they just did it | 01:04 |
shtylman | fncy | 01:05 |
shtylman | *fancy | 01:05 |
maco | nixternal: hrm. last night, mine turned off when the battery ran out instead of suspending. also, the battery has been at "81%" all day, even after being unplugged for an hour and also after charging for 7 hours | 01:25 |
neversfelde | maco: I probably had the same problem, but I think it was fixed after restarting | 01:27 |
ScottK | txwikinger: I'll have a look. | 02:43 |
txwikinger | thanks ScottK | 02:48 |
rgreening | ScottK: will we have a netbook seed for moblin? Just saw an announcement about Dell and mini 10v with moblin and Ubuntu Netbook Remix... | 03:04 |
ScottK | There is a Moblin image for Karmic. I understand it's intended as a developer preview only. | 03:04 |
rgreening | ScottK: http://www.workswithu.com/2009/09/23/dell-canonical-introduce-ubuntu-moblin-remix/ | 03:06 |
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nixternal | how come when I open a link from konsole for arora it freezes for a bit before loading the whole page? is this just me or is it everyone? | 04:31 |
txwikinger | hi nixternal | 04:33 |
nixternal | hola | 04:35 |
txwikinger | ¿Que me quentas? | 04:36 |
ScottK | txwikinger: Uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Ubuntu. | 05:10 |
txwikinger | ScottK: Thanks for your help | 05:10 |
ScottK | No problem. | 05:10 |
micmord | kdebase-workspace-bin: Depends: kdebase-workspace-data (= 4:4.3.1-0ubuntu6) but 4:4.3.1-0ubuntu5 is to be installed. | 07:35 |
a|wen | micmord: most likely transient .,. | 08:14 |
a|wen | micmord: wait till later today/tomorrow and it has hopefully fixed itself magically | 08:15 |
kjeldahl | Can anybody help getting a desktop back after dist-upgrade (breaking kdebase-workspace stuff)? | 09:31 |
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kjeldahl | Anybody have kdebase-workspace-data=4:4.3.1-0ubuntu6 around so I can have my desktop back? | 11:26 |
kjeldahl | (to match kdebase-workspace-bin..0ubuntu6) | 11:27 |
Riddelll | kjeldahl: amd64? | 11:28 |
kjeldahl | Riddelll: Yes. | 11:28 |
Riddelll | mm, I see the issue | 11:29 |
kjeldahl | Any easy solutions? It's been a looong time since I used the linux console... ;-) | 11:30 |
kjeldahl | If other people are as reckless as me, there are going to be quite a few linux console users soon... ;-) | 11:32 |
Riddelll | just need to wait for the fix I'm afraid | 11:33 |
Riddelll | which is now uploaded and should take an hour or two | 11:35 |
kjeldahl | Ok, excellent. Thanks. | 11:35 |
kjeldahl | Want to clue me in on what went wrong (so I learn to stay away from bleeding edge the next time)? | 11:36 |
Riddelll | it didn't compile on i386 where the -data package is compiled, so there was version skew and it couldn't get installed | 11:39 |
Riddelll | Quintasan: meh, Dooble has screwy licencing :( | 11:51 |
neversfelde | where is the Report Bug button in launchpad now? :) | 12:01 |
davmor2 | neversfelde: still there just points the the recommended way of reporting bugs | 12:02 |
davmor2 | neversfelde: for quick reports just type ubuntu-bug name_of_app then just add the extra info as required | 12:04 |
neversfelde | davmor2: that's for apport, right? | 12:07 |
davmor2 | neversfelde: new apport yes | 12:08 |
neversfelde | mhh, do I have to install the package, that has the bug? | 12:09 |
davmor2 | normally yes. neversfelde however if you go to the redirect page at the bottom there are instructions for what to do if ubuntu-bug can't help and then you can manually add the info like before | 12:10 |
neversfelde | well, I should do it, because I cannot file a bug for a package synced from debian :) | 12:11 |
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agateau | Riddelll: New kmail patchset for indicators available from http://people.canonical.com/~agateau/indicate/index.html | 13:00 |
agateau | should fix all bugs reported by rgreening | 13:00 |
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kjeldahl1 | Ridelll: Just got some updates, new kdm etc, but installing kubuntu-desktop still fails due to the kdebase-workspace-{bin,data} mixup. If you've fixed it, what updates should I look for? I really miss a desktop... | 14:11 |
sebas | Is it possible to hide blocked updates from the update notifier? | 14:16 |
sebas | Right now it shows up when there are blocked updates only | 14:17 |
sebas | So essentially it says "install updates, but you cannot install the updates that are available" -- usability problem | 14:17 |
sebas | essentially, blocked updates shouldn't be marked as available | 14:18 |
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ScottK | neversfelde: I think the plan is that if they make it hard enough to file bugs, eventually the number will go down. | 14:35 |
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Quintasan | Riddell: I will poke them today | 14:52 |
jussi01 | sebas: +1 | 14:54 |
savasten | Any word on kdebase-workspace-data? | 15:09 |
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kjeldahl1 | No, not working yet. Ridelll said a fix was posted, but if it was it didn't work. | 15:09 |
kjeldahl1 | (assuming it hasn't spent more than three hours getting here) | 15:10 |
jussi01 | I guess its possible it hasnt built yet... | 15:10 |
jussi01 | looks like it failed to build : https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.3.1-0ubuntu7/+build/1259483 | 15:12 |
jussi01 | Riddelll: have you noticed that? | 15:12 |
kjeldahl1 | That explains things. I'll keep trying. Thanks. | 15:14 |
Riddelll | jussi01: mm ok, uploading fix | 15:29 |
savasten | That explains i386 what about amd64? | 15:32 |
Riddelll | amd64 issue is caused by i386 build failure | 15:32 |
savasten | Good to know. | 15:34 |
Quintasan | oh god, srsly fcked up licensing | 15:35 |
Riddelll | Quintasan: isn't it just | 15:36 |
Riddelll | quite a shame that | 15:37 |
maco | seriously, this power management thingy is getting annoying. it now says "empty battery" when its been plugged in for 6 hours | 15:37 |
Riddelll | it needs the licencing for the icons clarified (although I don't know why it includes a dozen different icons themes) | 15:37 |
Riddelll | and it needs to be sure it follows its own licence for multiverse | 15:37 |
Quintasan | Riddell: AFAIK all icons but everaldo's are GPL-2 | 15:37 |
Riddelll | Quintasan: tango isn't | 15:38 |
Riddelll | there's also no GPL copy included | 15:38 |
Quintasan | well I need to poke them. I got the source from SVN | 15:38 |
Quintasan | I hope they have irc channel | 15:39 |
Riddelll | I don't think so | 15:39 |
Riddelll | the guy likes to chat to me on gmail talk | 15:39 |
rgreening | maco: I have the same isue on my Acer 6930. | 15:39 |
Riddelll | agateau: kdepim patches uploaded | 15:39 |
agateau | Riddelll: thanks! | 15:39 |
agateau | rgreening: this is for you ^ | 15:40 |
rgreening | maco: Sometimes when I am updating, it starts working again (due to one of the underlying services being restarted) | 15:40 |
agateau | should fix your problem with kmail and indicators | 15:40 |
rgreening | agateau: you are awesome | 15:40 |
agateau | tell this to the plasma devs :) | 15:40 |
rgreening | agateau: now.. how about akregator :) | 15:40 |
agateau | too late for Karmic I think | 15:40 |
rgreening | agateau: lol.. you need to do a screencast showing how it all works... | 15:40 |
rgreening | agateau: nah, not too late huh Riddelll... we have a standing FFe for KDE :P | 15:41 |
agateau | screencast could be a good idea, if I find the time | 15:41 |
* rgreening thinks making akregator work would be the fashizzel | 15:41 | |
* agateau wonders what fashizzel can be | 15:42 | |
rgreening | agateau: I think a screencast would allow everyone to see how smooth it all looks in comparison. | 15:42 |
agateau | I agree | 15:42 |
rgreening | agateau: fashizzel, shiz, da bomb, dope, rad == awesome | 15:42 |
rgreening | :P | 15:42 |
agateau | oh ok | 15:43 |
rgreening | got to love gang slang | 15:43 |
rgreening | agateau: maybe we can do a pod cast on the notifications :P talk with Nick Ali... | 15:43 |
agateau | hehe | 15:45 |
Quintasan | Riddell: about UDS - I need to ask my parents for permission first but I think they will agree. I would need passport, signed permission to attending, what else? | 15:51 |
Riddelll | Quintasan: to be free on the dates and to be picked for sponsorship (I just forward the names) | 15:52 |
Quintasan | Hmm, okay, I'm going to ask them when my dad's back | 15:53 |
davmor2 | Hey guys on kde's nm why does it ask for the phone number of my 3g dongle? | 15:53 |
Riddelll | davmor2: it doesn't have a built in list like nm-applet does | 15:53 |
Riddelll | davmor2: do you know the number? | 15:54 |
davmor2 | Riddelll: Of course not and no | 15:54 |
davmor2 | Riddelll: this was on kne but I'm firing up a kubuntu to see if it is the same | 15:55 |
Riddelll | it is the same | 15:55 |
davmor2 | Riddelll: I'll let you know in a minute then but the basic section lists phone number which I'm assuming is for if your connecting via your phone | 16:00 |
kjeldahl | Anybody want to point me where to read up on package propagation, or "how to get updates faster" (finding an updated mirror or similar) with Ubuntu? | 16:12 |
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JontheEchinda | The fix is still building: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdebase-workspace/4:4.3.1-0ubuntu8 | 16:15 |
kjeldahl | Jon: Thanks. | 16:21 |
Riddelll | I can tell kdebase-workspace compiled this time, rosetta is spamming me to hell | 16:35 |
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* kjeldahl grins | 16:37 | |
davmor2 | Riddelll: http://www.davmor2.co.uk/3g.png is what I get | 16:38 |
Riddelll | txwikinger_work: are you wanting to come to UDS? | 16:41 |
txwikinger_work | Riddelll: I am thinking about it | 16:41 |
davmor2 | Riddelll: setup a rosetta folder and a mail rule and ignore it ;) | 16:47 |
davmor2 | Riddelll: what do you want me to do about the loveliness that assumes my 3g dongle is a phone then? | 16:49 |
davmor2 | Riddelll: Bug 436020 | 17:20 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 436020 in plasma-widget-networkmanagement "kde network-manager should make 3g dongles easier to connect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436020 | 17:20 |
EagleScreen | logout button can be added to the desktop | 17:43 |
kjeldahl | Just got the bugfixes and kubuntu-desktop seems to install fine again. Hopefully my desktop will be back when I arrive at the office tomorrow. Thank you for helping out. | 17:58 |
Quintasan | Riddell: Hmm, there will be no problems with my parents, but I need a vista to pass the border :/ | 17:58 |
Quintasan | lol, visa* | 17:59 |
rgreening | Quintasan: sure XP wont work | 17:59 |
rgreening | haha | 17:59 |
Quintasan | xD | 17:59 |
rgreening | :P | 17:59 |
dendrobates | Riddell: is any one working on making the 3g experience using knetworkmanager more friendly like nm-applet? I'm considering working on it, but I don't want to step on any toes. | 18:00 |
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Quintasan | oh man, it sucks | 18:02 |
Quintasan | hell yeah, nearest embassy ~= 350km :/ | 18:02 |
neversfelde | MIR for libepub-dev was approved and it will be in main, after the first package depends on it bug 432775 | 18:40 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 432775 in ebook-tools "Main inclusion request for ebook-tools" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432775 | 18:40 |
neversfelde | okular build fine with it, but unfortunately there is a bug in libepub0 and it requires a fix bug 435826 | 18:40 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 435826 in ebook-tools "okular cannot parse the structure of an epub document" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/435826 | 18:41 |
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ScottK | Do we have a fix for it? | 18:42 |
neversfelde | so although ebook-tools is still in universe, I guess it needs a sponsor for main. I am not sure, if the changes would affect the approval for main? | 18:42 |
neversfelde | ScottK: a debdiff is attached to the bug report | 18:42 |
rgreening | ScottK: have you tried the ubiquity under netbook? Fonts are huge..I think we need an adjustment for the font settings reapplied (seems that are not applied anymore) | 18:50 |
ScottK | rgreening: I did a reinstall for Alpha 6. It didn't seem particularly huge then. | 18:52 |
ScottK | I'd ask shtylman. | 18:52 |
rgreening | ScottK: Im doing a daily from today... | 18:58 |
rgreening | ScottK: but I remember it being this way for a while. | 18:59 |
rgreening | ScottK: are we sure we have the fonts adjusted for netbook? | 18:59 |
ScottK | rgreening: In Ubiquity, no. shtylman discussed maybe having a way to discover a small screen and then use different CSS. | 19:00 |
rgreening | ScottK: ah... I would have though it got hints from system as CSS should use relative and not fixed sizes (like 0.5em for example rather than 7pt) | 19:02 |
rgreening | shtylman: ^^ | 19:02 |
ScottK | rgreening: I'd have thought I don't know a thing about it and you should ask shtylman. | 19:03 |
rgreening | ScottK: I asked u for default system settings if it was applied for knds... :P | 19:03 |
rgreening | hmm.. yeah, all fonts in system settings are at 7 point.... small should technically be smaller than the others though... heh | 19:05 |
* rgreening check konq | 19:05 | |
rgreening | ScottK: konqueror fonts need adjusting... medium = 12 and min = 7... should be smaller to be consistent I guess... | 19:07 |
rgreening | ScottK: is the clock (time) in your netbook titlebar cut off? If so, try setting smal font to 6pt and see if it fixes it. I think we should adjust small to be 6pt | 19:09 |
ScottK | rgreening: It is. | 19:09 |
ScottK | Sounds readonable to me. | 19:09 |
rgreening | ScottK: ok, what package is that.... kubuntu netbook default settings? correct? | 19:10 |
rgreening | I can try and make the change | 19:10 |
ScottK | rgreening: Yes. | 19:11 |
rgreening | ok.. getting now | 19:11 |
ScottK | Riddelll: I'm taking the ebook-tools upload for neversfelde. Will you promote it so okular can build-depend on it. | 19:19 |
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neversfelde | kdegraphics is ready, so I can push it to bzr, if patched ebook-tools goes into the archive | 19:25 |
ScottK | neversfelde: Uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu. | 19:26 |
neversfelde | ScottK: thanks | 19:26 |
ScottK | neversfelde: BTW, don't mention the maintainer change in debian/changelog. | 19:26 |
chrisinajar | So I'm settings up a kde4 development environment to do some work on it, this will be in paralell with the 9.10 alpha kde 4 packages... My plan is to use kdesvn-build and install it into my home directory and make a script to enter that environment for running things... Is there anything I should keep in mind or a better way to manage the environment that you guys generally use? | 19:29 |
rgreening | ScottK: committed knds small font fix (marked 9.10.10 as UNRELEASED).. so, feel free to upload at leisure... | 19:30 |
neversfelde | ScottK: ok | 19:30 |
neversfelde | there was an error with debuild, so I had to change the maintainer | 19:30 |
ScottK | neversfelde: You were correct to change it, it just didn't need mentioning in the changelog. | 19:32 |
neversfelde | I learned, that everything has to be in changelog :D. I will not mention it in future anymore. | 19:33 |
ScottK | This one is specifically called out in Ubuntu Policy as not needed. | 19:34 |
neversfelde | ok | 19:35 |
skreech | Does Koala ship with kopete-krunner ? | 19:54 |
jussi01 | !info kopete-krunner karmic | 19:57 |
ubottu | Package kopete-krunner does not exist in karmic | 19:57 |
jussi01 | skreech: doesnt look promising... | 19:57 |
JontheEchinda | !info plasma-runner-kopete | 19:58 |
ubottu | Package plasma-runner-kopete does not exist in jaunty | 19:58 |
JontheEchinda | !info plasma-runner-kopete karmic | 19:58 |
ubottu | plasma-runner-kopete (source: plasma-runner-kopete): Start chat with your Kopete contacts using KRunner. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 18 kB, installed size 96 kB | 19:58 |
JontheEchinda | not by default | 19:58 |
rgreening | hmm. ScottK the small font changed worked on the live usb... does seem todo anything for me after install... but it is a saner default I believe... | 19:59 |
rgreening | s/does/doesn't/ | 20:02 |
skreech | JontheEchinda: see that's why I want a kubuntu-komplete package :( | 20:02 |
spstarr | nice | 20:28 |
spstarr | someone is doing nightly mesa PPAs | 20:28 |
ScottK | rgreening: Maybe you could see if notmart will help you figure out the problem where only one app per catagory gets remembered in favorites for the app picker. | 20:30 |
rgreening | hehe | 20:31 |
Riddelll | ScottK: nothing about ebook in New, what should I be looking for? | 21:00 |
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neversfelde | mhh, I hoped that the epub support could go in before :/ | 21:01 |
Riddelll | neversfelde: we can sneak it in, but I'm not quite sure what needs doing | 21:02 |
neversfelde | Riddelll: bug 435826 was already marked as fixed released, does that mean that it is in the archive? | 21:04 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 435826 in ebook-tools "okular cannot parse the structure of an epub document" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/435826 | 21:04 |
Riddelll | neversfelde: looks like it is but it's in universe, do you know if there's a MIR? | 21:06 |
neversfelde | Riddelll: yes, pitti approved it and said that libepub0 and libepub-dev will go to main, when there is a package that depends on it | 21:06 |
neversfelde | one moment, I will search the bug report | 21:07 |
neversfelde | Riddelll: bug 432775 | 21:07 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 432775 in ebook-tools "Main inclusion request for ebook-tools" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/432775 | 21:07 |
neversfelde | so if everything is ok, kdegraphics with epub support is in bzr | 21:08 |
rgreening | yay | 21:15 |
neversfelde | something is wrong with the import filter for ms documents for koffice 2.1 beta, I get a lot of mails about it here :) | 21:16 |
neversfelde | vorian: ping | 21:24 |
ScottK | Riddelll: I accepted ebook-tools (since it was still in Universe). It needs to get promoted so we can build-depend on it. | 21:25 |
* JontheEchinda thinks bug 436088 could be an indicator issue | 21:33 | |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 436088 in kdepim "kmail crashed with SIGSEGV in QString::replace()" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436088 | 21:33 |
JontheEchinda | That backtrace is huge liek xbox | 21:33 |
Quintasan|Szel | Riddelll: I have my parents aprroval. Please put me on the list | 21:34 |
ScottK | Quintasan|Szel: There is a form to fill out. | 21:35 |
Quintasan|Szel | oh | 21:36 |
Quintasan|Szel | Quintasan: ^ | 21:36 |
skreech | Sign here here here here there in blood here and here with this special pen | 21:36 |
ScottK | Quintasan|Szel: Check Jono's blog. It's got a link to where you have to fill it out. | 21:36 |
Quintasan|Szel | skreech: Sounds good too me :D | 21:37 |
Quintasan|Szel | to* | 21:37 |
* Quintasan|Szel looks around for a razor | 21:38 | |
skreech | Use apacehelogger. He's sharp | 21:38 |
neversfelde | should ebook-tools in bug 345672 also be marked with fixed released? | 21:39 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 345672 in ebook-tools "Okular epub support missing" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/345672 | 21:39 |
* Quintasan|Szel grabs apachelogger | 21:39 | |
Quintasan|Szel | Where? :P | 21:39 |
ScottK | neversfelde: It should be fix released in epub-tools, but not KDE | 21:41 |
neversfelde | ScottK: not KDE? | 21:42 |
skreech | Ah! | 21:42 |
skreech | ksnapshot not being on Printscreen | 21:42 |
skreech | That's a paperkut | 21:42 |
Quintasan|Szel | skreech: +1 | 21:43 |
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Quintasan|Szel | also Kickoff should be under win/meta key | 21:43 |
Monika|K | but ksnapshot is on printscreen | 21:44 |
ScottK | neversfelde: kdegraphics. It should be open against that until it's fixed there. | 21:46 |
skreech | It is for me because I set it manually | 21:46 |
Monika|K | does it still make sense to report paperKuts? now that there is the freeze? | 21:46 |
Monika|K | skreech on a fresh install of Jaunty ksnapshot is on printscreen, too ... is it not anymore on karmic? | 21:46 |
ScottK | Stuff like that we can possibly fix post-beta. | 21:47 |
Quintasan|Szel | Well. I'm going to bed, tomorrow ain't Saturday :< | 21:47 |
Quintasan|Szel | Night everyone | 21:47 |
neversfelde | ScottK: it was marked fixed released automatically from janitor | 21:48 |
Riddelll | Quintasan: added, don't know when we'll hear who gets chosen | 22:01 |
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yuriy | qyoto package is broken | 23:02 |
yuriy | it looks for libqyotoshared.so but it's called libqyoto.so | 23:03 |
yuriy | wow new LP looks pretty bad, i thought it was just konqueror/arora | 23:05 |
yuriy | bug 419771 ^ | 23:08 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 419771 in kdebindings "Missing symlink/misplaced file in libqyoto4.4-cil" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/419771 | 23:08 |
yuriy | from #kde-bindings (thought i'd relay directly) "and if it isn't properly found, then go yell at the ubuntu packagers for screwing it up - and just gently tell them to take the working things from debian. | 23:11 |
ScottK | Who was that? | 23:13 |
yuriy | pusling | 23:13 |
ScottK | Figures | 23:14 |
yuriy | don't know anything about him | 23:14 |
ScottK | He's a Debian KDE DD and not famous for his people skills. | 23:14 |
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