| ncfi1013_ | do i go to my router to change the port or to kopete to change the port cuz i cant find where to change the port in kopete? | 00:02 |
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| vadmin | hello | 00:06 |
| konbon | Howdy :) | 00:18 |
| konbon | I have a bit of a dilema, maybe you guys can help me with it | 00:18 |
| konbon | I am trying to update my driver for Nvidia on this kubuntu 9.04 install | 00:19 |
| konbon | i went to the nvidia web site to download the driver and got a .run file for the linux 32 distro | 00:19 |
| konbon | i ran it but it tell me that i need to run it in Root. How do i run it in root ? | 00:20 |
| sobi | sudo sh *.run | 00:20 |
| konbon | Thanks :) | 00:21 |
| sobi | :) | 00:21 |
| konbon | Looks like i theres another problem. | 00:22 |
| konbon | ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing. | 00:22 |
| konbon | how can i stop X Server ? | 00:22 |
| sobi | try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop | 00:23 |
| konbon | Thanks :) | 00:23 |
| konbon | command not found :( | 00:23 |
| sobi | sorry: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop | 00:24 |
| ncfi1013_ | what would the application name be for a port on a router for kopete be: telnet, http, https, ftp, dns, smtp, pop3, h.323, remote desktop, pptp, l2tp, or wake-on-lan? | 00:24 |
| konbon | Oh :P | 00:24 |
| sobi | gdm is for Ubuntu, kdm for Kubuntu | 00:24 |
| sourcemaker | what is better... egroupware or opengroupware | 00:36 |
| * nit is away: Gone away for now | 00:39 | |
| ncfi1013_ | port forwarding tcp and udp ports are both port 80 correct? | 01:12 |
| tyrone | hi quick question: Does ubuntu run as well on a Mac as on a PC or is it design to work better with PC hardware? | 01:15 |
| ubuntu | hello? | 01:26 |
| ubuntu | i need help with my kubuntu | 01:26 |
| venky80 | is there a KDESU ninja here | 01:56 |
| venky80 | can i take your 10 mins | 01:56 |
| tony___ | hey guys, does anyone know of a channel for java developers? | 02:02 |
| tony___ | I'd like to talk to someone about developing a console app for a web service | 02:03 |
| ivan__ | всем привет, Помогите найти работоспособную асю для линя | 02:18 |
| Pici | !ru | ivan__ | 02:19 |
| ubottu | ivan__: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke | 02:19 |
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| * nit is back. | 02:40 | |
| === mirco_ is now known as mirco | ||
| === bret is now known as freelancer317 | ||
| * nit is away: Gone away for now | 02:50 | |
| === me is now known as Guest51781 | ||
| === patrick is now known as fargo189 | ||
| fargo189 | Can anyone point me in the right direction for reinstalling my soundcard? I edited alsa-base.conf and now it doesn't recognize my card. running a grep | Codec gives me "No sound card detected". I have the latest version of alsa, just missing the card. Any help? | 03:04 |
| fargo189 | I'm using an Asus if that helps | 03:05 |
| ncfi1013_ | where do i find the default gateway in linux? | 03:27 |
| jsubl2 | if you are on dhcp no need to worry. if not dhcp man interfaces | 03:28 |
| alokito | my nokia 5200 is turning off everytime I try to connect it to the internet with kubuntu karmic alpha6's network manager | 03:28 |
| alokito | why is it happenning? | 03:28 |
| alokito | kppp is working fine, but I want to use the default kubuntu network manager | 03:29 |
| jsubl2 | when you install alphas you have to be prepared to chase down a bug | 03:29 |
| alokito | jsubl2: hmm ok but Im not having any other problem, just this | 03:30 |
| jsubl2 | i dont have any experience with that kinda config... so i have no idea | 03:31 |
| alokito | kde has improved a lot, many new features in plasmoid and other apps :) | 03:31 |
| alokito | jsubl2: im using a 2g edge connection | 03:31 |
| jsubl2 | yeah it is lookin better.. not convinced it is the 1 yet. still playin and testin | 03:31 |
| jsubl2 | dissapointed with kopete and no webcam. | 03:32 |
| jsubl2 | so is that edge workin for ya | 03:32 |
| jsubl2 | what kinda thruput | 03:32 |
| alokito | jsubl2: is there a difference between direct kubuntu installation and kubuntu-desktop package installation from gnome? | 03:32 |
| jsubl2 | i like to see the grandkids with the webcam. | 03:32 |
| alokito | jsubl2: yah I can connect it with kppp | 03:33 |
| jsubl2 | not sure but i would think they would be close | 03:33 |
| alokito | jsubl2: I installed kubuntu-desktop in jaunty but it looks different from kubuntu karmic | 03:33 |
| jsubl2 | i am kinda new to kubuntu.. yahoo cutoff the old protocols for kopete so we had to move to a newer distro.... was on debian stable | 03:34 |
| alokito | donno if it has changed in karmic or kubuntu-desktop pack is different from original kubuntu | 03:34 |
| jsubl2 | yeah the first thing i change is the looks anyway | 03:34 |
| jsubl2 | if the apps are there and work. that is what i would be concerned with | 03:34 |
| jsubl2 | aptitude search kubuntu see if you see anything else you might need | 03:35 |
| alokito | i used gnome before but now im settled in kde, since kde4.0 release | 03:35 |
| P_Kable | Hi there, I'm having an annoying hang at every shutdown. It says: setting advanced power management level to 0x80 | 03:35 |
| P_Kable | on 904 | 03:35 |
| alokito | P_Kable: turn off advanced power management from /boot/grub/menu.lst | 03:36 |
| jsubl2 | i see problems shutdown also.. i logout and then shutdown from kdm and it seems to work better | 03:36 |
| P_Kable | alokito: thanks I try that right now ;) | 03:36 |
| alokito | add this beside ur boot entry: acpi=off | 03:36 |
| jsubl2 | alokito: what if you are a laptop | 03:36 |
| jsubl2 | added it right after splash | 03:37 |
| alokito | jsubl2: I used it in my old laptop, it runs on dc power though | 03:37 |
| jsubl2 | ok so maybe it is safe | 03:37 |
| jsubl2 | kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-kde4-desktop | 03:38 |
| alokito | jsubl2: kubuntu-desktop now installs kde4 by default | 03:39 |
| jsubl2 | awwwwwwww | 03:39 |
| alokito | firefox should be default in kde | 03:40 |
| alokito | konqueror is not so good for regular browsing | 03:40 |
| jsubl2 | yeah agreed there | 03:41 |
| jsubl2 | brb | 03:42 |
| alokito | k | 03:42 |
| * nit is back. | 03:53 | |
| cjae | !ktts | 04:23 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about ktts | 04:23 |
| ncfi1013_ | what application name do i give kopete in port forwarding rules on the router? | 04:23 |
| cjae | !info ktts | 04:23 |
| ubottu | Error: I tried to send you an empty message. | 04:23 |
| cjae | !info ktts | 04:23 |
| ubottu | Package ktts does not exist in jaunty | 04:23 |
| cjae | umm | 04:23 |
| ncfi1013_ | i cant connect to my contacts in kopete. it keeps saying that they are offline and that wait till they are online or use software that supports offline protocol. | 04:23 |
| cjae | does ktts work with kde 4 | 04:24 |
| ncfi1013_ | is harolddong peterbuldge? | 04:26 |
| ncfi1013_ | if it is what application name do i give kopete in port forwarding rules on the router? and i cant connect to my contacts in kopete. it keeps saying that they are offline and that wait till they are online or use software that supports offline protocol. | 04:27 |
| harolddong | yes | 04:29 |
| ncfi1013_ | nice can u help me? | 04:30 |
| harolddong | I didnt see your question | 04:30 |
| ncfi1013_ | the people over in xchat arent helping me at all | 04:30 |
| ncfi1013_ | what application name do i give kopete in port forwarding rules on the router? and i cant connect to my contacts in kopete. it keeps saying that they are offline and that wait till they are online or use software that supports offline protocol. | 04:30 |
| harolddong | name it kopete | 04:31 |
| harolddong | duh | 04:31 |
| ncfi1013_ | i did that but its asking for the application name like gaming names | 04:32 |
| ncfi1013_ | theres nothing even resembling an im name in the list | 04:32 |
| ncfi1013_ | oh and are the tcp and udp ports the same port number? | 04:33 |
| harolddong | see if you can get pidgin installed and talk to me there | 04:34 |
| harolddong | and no they arent | 04:34 |
| harolddong | I dont think "port forwarding"is really what you want to do. you just want to open ports | 04:35 |
| harolddong | so youare probably in the wrong place in your router control panel. that is the first problem. I remember we went through this same thing before | 04:35 |
| harolddong | secondly, kopete itself doesnt really any ports that need to be opened. its the protocols themselves, like aim and yahoo. I told you this is a txt message the other night | 04:36 |
| ncfi1013_ | pretend im a newb and have some compassion ha ha | 04:36 |
| harolddong | that's what I'm doing | 04:37 |
| harolddong | but you're still not getting it | 04:37 |
| ncfi1013_ | yeah i remember so why doesnt it work perfectly like it has before? does have anything to do with needing to upgrade kde? | 04:37 |
| harolddong | can you get pidginn installed? | 04:38 |
| ncfi1013_ | what am i not getting? what am i not doing right or wrong or overlooking? | 04:38 |
| harolddong | well I explain this stuff to you and the next day you're asking me the same questions or in the exact predicament. its like groundhog day | 04:39 |
| Commissar_Mo | Hello, having massive issues with resolution on boot - it resets my res every time I logout... | 05:31 |
| Commissar_Mo | I have seen all the help-pages on this, and am likely very confused at this point | 05:31 |
| Commissar_Mo | anyone in here? | 05:42 |
| Pulledteeth | Ubuntu does not detect USB storage devices after it's been running for a bit of time. It sees it in lsusb, but not block device is created/detected, and it's not showing up in fdisk. Anyone got any advice? | 05:43 |
| Pulledteeth | s/ubuntu/kubuntu | 05:43 |
| sancas | http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9853/pantallazoth.jpg | 05:47 |
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| === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor | ||
| skierpage | I installed Quicken 2008 using Wine in Kubuntu 9.04, and I have an item in KIckoff for it. How do I find the command line corresponding to that Kickoff entry? Is it in a .desktop file somewhere or a .kickoff menu structure? | 06:00 |
| skierpage | It's not in ~/.kde/share/config/kickoffrc ... | 06:01 |
| skierpage | C'mon, Windows Start menu has RIGHT-click > Properties > General tab that shows you the exec line. | 06:03 |
| skierpage | skierpage, You can't usefully right-click on an item in Kickoff, but right-click its 'K' icon, choose Menu Editor, then navigate mindlessly around until you find the item in a category, then choose it and see the Command line for it, in this case ' env WINEPREFIX="/home/skierpage/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\Quicken\qw.exe" ' | 06:06 |
| skierpage | skierpage, thanks! U R awesome. | 06:06 |
| spooky | hola | 06:09 |
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| rouser | I'm a total idiot and I deleted my taskbar, so now I have to alt-tab to change programs on my window. Google wasn't helpful at all, is there a quickfix to restore it? New from Ubuntu | 06:34 |
| maco | right click on desktop | 06:34 |
| rouser | yeah? | 06:34 |
| maco | add panel | 06:34 |
| rouser | i didn't lose the entire panel, just the part that displayed current tasks/windows | 06:35 |
| rouser | is there a way to make a new one then merge it back? | 06:35 |
| rouser | nevermind, found it in the cashew | 06:38 |
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| Balsaq | how much HD space does kubuntu use? | 07:12 |
| Balsaq | anyone in here using a one of the many linux OS's on an apple computer? | 07:48 |
| jussi01 | !anyone | Balsaq | 07:49 |
| ubottu | Balsaq: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? | 07:49 |
| Balsaq | so i do thisd 1st...! | 07:50 |
| Balsaq | newbie here, are so saying i asked my question incorrectly? | 07:52 |
| Balsaq | !2004 apple g4 desktop compatibility kubuntu | 07:57 |
| ubottu | Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 07:57 |
| Balsaq | man yur tough... | 07:57 |
| Balsaq | !apple | 07:57 |
| ubottu | For PPC discussion, join #ubuntu-powerpc. For discussion on Mac software, or help with same, please visit ##apple. | 07:57 |
| Balsaq | ah hah | 07:57 |
| Balsaq | you like that one | 07:57 |
| === joseph is now known as jammen33 | ||
| jussi01 | Balsaq: what i meant was if you ask anyone use <foo> here you are likely to get a yes/no answer. if you tell what your actual problem is, the real question that you might ask to someone who does use <foo>... | 08:09 |
| Balsaq | dont know what <foo> means but i think i get your point | 08:10 |
| jussi01 | <foo> is a substitute for any thing, insert what you were asking about there :D | 08:10 |
| NeuKe | lol | 08:11 |
| HasMa | moin | 08:11 |
| NeuKe | :O | 08:11 |
| HasMa | :D | 08:11 |
| Balsaq | so go like this...<apple> ? | 08:11 |
| HasMa | mooin! | 08:11 |
| NeuKe | haaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa | 08:12 |
| AbeFi | ihr ratten# | 08:12 |
| HasMa | finn ist doof :D | 08:12 |
| HasMa | ihr doof | 08:13 |
| HasMa | und behind | 08:13 |
| AbeFi | schinken!!!!! | 08:13 |
| HasMa | karottensaft | 08:13 |
| AbeFi | ?? | 08:13 |
| HasMa | mit riesenrad | 08:13 |
| NeuKe | behindert? | 08:13 |
| AbeFi | bist bewölkt | 08:13 |
| HasMa | www.gidf.de | 08:13 |
| HasMa | www.finn-ist-behind.de | 08:14 |
| jussi01 | hansen: please use english only in here | 08:14 |
| jussi01 | Balsaq: no, just ask your question... | 08:15 |
| jussi01 | hansen: sorry... | 08:15 |
| Balsaq | ok that is usually my favorite way! | 08:16 |
| jussi01 | Balsaq: all I was trying to say was ask the real question, not the "anyone" question | 08:17 |
| Balsaq | have a nice day jussie01 | 08:22 |
| LINUX4EVER | hi | 08:48 |
| habanany | I need help with karmic | 08:54 |
| LINUX4EVER | whats your problem | 08:54 |
| habanany | i download the iso, but I have no dvd burner | 08:54 |
| LINUX4EVER | you need an virtual drive | 08:55 |
| jussi01 | habanany: karmic help is in #ubuntu+1 :) | 08:56 |
| habanany | forgot to say I have windows 7 | 08:56 |
| jussi01 | habanany: have you a usb pen drive? | 08:56 |
| LINUX4EVER | open: http://dream-linux.homelinux.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=62 | 08:56 |
| jussi01 | !usb | habanany | 08:56 |
| ubottu | habanany: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 08:56 |
| habanany | yes i have a 4 gb pen | 08:56 |
| LINUX4EVER | thats not much | 08:57 |
| jussi01 | habanany: have a look at the first link then | 08:57 |
| LINUX4EVER | i have an 8 GB | 08:57 |
| habanany | can you repeat the link | 08:57 |
| jussi01 | !usb | habanany | 08:57 |
| jussi01 | habanany: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 08:58 |
| habanany | yeah usb 4gb | 08:58 |
| habanany | thanks guys | 09:02 |
| habanany | bye | 09:02 |
| bond | hai | 09:05 |
| === bond is now known as Guest12601 | ||
| oleg_ | всем привет! | 09:20 |
| bobback | privet | 09:20 |
| kjeldahl | Anybody else got their desktop hosed by dist-upgrade lately (kde 4.3, missing kdebase-workspace packages)? | 09:25 |
| bobback | <bobback> hi | 09:28 |
| bobback | any one can help setting remote debugger? | 09:28 |
| bobback | i mean, every thing is installed but i cant connect | 09:28 |
| bobback | have the ips in the allow hosts but still | 09:28 |
| === prxq_ is now known as prxq | ||
| Assurbanipal | hi everyone,is there a way to syncronize my windows mobile device contacts with kubuntu?? (kontact or thunderbird) | 09:34 |
| James147 | Assurbanipal: you can try opensync | 09:36 |
| Assurbanipal | is it actually working now??because all my efforts in the past were waste of time :( | 09:37 |
| James147 | Assurbanipal: not sure, but improvments are made all the time, I havent tryed it in ages so I can say... | 09:37 |
| James147 | Assurbanipal: The other thing I was looking into was to sync my PDA to google, then sync google to my computer(s) but havent really looked into it yet | 09:38 |
| Assurbanipal | i just need my contacts to synchronize....it's a pain in the ass... | 09:38 |
| James147 | Assurbanipal: yeah, I know how you feel :) | 09:39 |
| Assurbanipal | i have switched to ubuntu for about a year on both my laptop and pc and this is one of the biggest annoyances i find... i can't say i miss windows just for that, but is a big problam for me because i exchange personal details with many people all the time and need to have them synced... | 09:42 |
| Assurbanipal | it has to be worked out... | 09:42 |
| James147 | Assurbanipal: I would try syncing with google, you might have more luck | 09:45 |
| === Uqbar_ is now known as Uqbar | ||
| Assurbanipal | James147: unfortunatelly i have gone through that way for the moment, but is is a work around and not a real solution....does anyone know how syncing works between ubuntu and android? | 09:52 |
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| === max is now known as Guest15032 | ||
| val_ | AHHHH | 10:29 |
| val_ | hi ! | 10:29 |
| gentobuntu | Why can't I see any shared folders from other computers? I installed samba and configured /etc/samba/smb.conf to share folders and restarted samba service... | 10:46 |
| gentobuntu | I can see other machines from this kubuntu 9.04, but other machines cant see shares from this machine. Is there a FIREWALL blocking sharing or what? | 10:48 |
| gentobuntu | Why does /etc/samba/smb.conf make any difference, not even a warning when I put something wrong to it? | 10:49 |
| James147 | gentobuntu: I would make sure samba is useing the same workgroup | 10:49 |
| Idhan | is there any way that the plasma widgets appears only when I push control-f12?? and always in the background of my desktop?? | 10:51 |
| jussi01 | is there a way to give openoffice a different theme than everything else? | 10:51 |
| James147 | Idhan: in kde 4.3 you can have seperate dashboard widgets, so when you push crtl + F12 different widgets will appear, you can configure by zooming out of the desktops (from the cashew) the click configure plasma -> check use seperate dashboard | 10:53 |
| James147 | Idhan: from what you said you can have no widgets on the desktop, and place widgets on the dashboard so that they appear when you press ctrl+f12 | 10:54 |
| gentobuntu | James147: It is the same workgroup, here is the conf, it works on Gentoo server like that, http://pastebin.com/d196ac9a2 | 10:54 |
| James147 | gentobuntu: see if you can access it from the computer thats hosting it | 10:55 |
| gentobuntu | James147: No. smbtree -does not show any shares, its like /etc/init.d/samba -service does not even read the smb.conf ?? | 10:57 |
| James147 | gentobuntu: As far as I can tell there isent anything wrong with the config | 10:58 |
| gentobuntu | James147: smbtree does show shares from other machines.. | 10:58 |
| gentobuntu | James147: No hyvä kun tuo graafinen juttu ei käynnisty... | 10:59 |
| James147 | ?? | 10:59 |
| Idhan | James147: where is this "configure plasma"?? | 11:00 |
| gentobuntu | James147: The graphical "sahre this folder" does not start at all.. | 11:00 |
| James147 | gentobuntu: is samba installed? | 11:00 |
| Idhan | James147: if I add widgets in the dashboard after I press ctr-f12, and I add there some widgets, after I come back to the desktop the same widgets are there | 11:01 |
| James147 | Idhan: click the cashew thing thats in the corner of the desktop, you should be able to "zoom out" | 11:01 |
| gentobuntu | James147: Yes, and I'v /etc/init.d/samba start and allso restart... | 11:01 |
| Idhan | James147: ok | 11:01 |
| gentobuntu | * Starting Samba daemons [ OK ] | 11:02 |
| James147 | gentobuntu: not sure whats wrong :s you could try purging samba and reinstalling it | 11:03 |
| Idhan | James147: yes.. I see the zoom out... I try to move some widgets out of the desktop background in the bottom area..but after I stop the drag action, automatically the return to the desktop area | 11:03 |
| James147 | Idhan: once you have zoomed out there should be a "configure plasma" option, click that and check "use seperate daskpoard" | 11:04 |
| James147 | Idhan: this is in kde 4.3.1, not sure it is in kde 4.2.X, what version are you useing? | 11:05 |
| Idhan | 4.2.2 | 11:05 |
| Idhan | James147: are you using kubuntu 9.04? | 11:05 |
| James147 | Idhan: yes, but with kde 4.3.1 | 11:06 |
| Idhan | James147: is that a safe upgrade?? | 11:06 |
| James147 | Idhan: I think it was added to kde 4.3, if you really want it you can upgrade via http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.1 | 11:06 |
| Idhan | James147: thanks | 11:07 |
| James147 | Idhan: You welcome :) | 11:07 |
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| afahrutdinov | Hi | 12:19 |
| afahrutdinov | Пт | 12:19 |
| gentobuntu | In what conf file is the delay between login and password defined? It is annoying when there is 5sec delay!! Both VNC and SSH has the delay.. | 12:25 |
| James147 | gentobuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=943672 <- might help | 12:27 |
| === Assurbanipal_ is now known as Assurbanipal | ||
| James147 | gentobuntu: btw, did you get samba working in the end? | 12:27 |
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| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| user_ | hi, how i can see what users i have in my os from konsole | 13:01 |
| James147 | user_: cat /etc/group will show all users including system ones as well as teh groups they belong to | 13:04 |
| user_ | ok thx | 13:05 |
| gentobuntu | James147: Yep, I reinstalled samba and then it started to log errors to /var/log/s... and there was few in my smb.conf, now working 100% | 13:21 |
| James147 | gentobuntu: :) | 13:21 |
| boscop | I'm running ubuntu with xfce and I want to have mouse gestures in konqueror, but I don't have kde control center. is there a way to enable them without installing it? | 13:24 |
| boscop | I just need back and forward | 13:24 |
| boscop | and a second thing: when I press middle mouse button on a tab, I get a msg: protocol not supported, but the tab doesn't close. I have enabled tab closing with middle mouse button in the settings though | 13:31 |
| === g600116 is now known as OcGatSag | ||
| cajun | I don't know whether it matters, ubuntu or kubuntu. I have Kubuntu Jaunty installed but use gnome more often. One of my users has to change his password regularly yet I have not had to myself. Is this because he has administrative privileges? | 13:56 |
| James147 | cajun: I know you can set a time at which passwords expire, not sure if its system wide or user wide though | 14:00 |
| James147 | cajun: in kuser if you double click on a user to get settings for that user there is a "password managment" tab that lets you set password expiry times | 14:02 |
| cajun | well he's the only user on my system that has to reset. i created a guest account with limited user priveleges and it's pw remains the same. | 14:02 |
| James147 | cajun: looks to be user spific | 14:02 |
| cajun | i used the "Users and Groups" manager to create and make changes for both additional users. | 14:02 |
| === kitterma is now known as ScottK-netbook | ||
| cajun | kdesudo kuser? | 14:03 |
| James147 | cajun: the default is no timeout, maby his got set somehow? | 14:03 |
| James147 | i jsut ran kuser and it asked for password :) needs to be root either way | 14:03 |
| cajun | fo some reason, kuser showed that he is disabled. which is odd | 14:05 |
| James147 | cajun: maby his password expired? | 14:05 |
| harolddong | how do I get the kmplayer konqueror plugin to work in jaunty it doesnt play anything | 14:05 |
| cajun | he just changed it again last night | 14:06 |
| James147 | cajun: either way you can try to enable him and take off the expireing password to see if it works | 14:06 |
| cajun | kuser is set so that passwords never expire. | 14:06 |
| cajun | i don't see a way to change this setting for a specific user | 14:06 |
| James147 | cajun: for me i click on the user, a box pops up with more info, password expriey is on Password Managment tab | 14:07 |
| cajun | ah. that fixed it. | 14:08 |
| cajun | he had expire deadlines. | 14:09 |
| cajun | i have no idea how that happened. | 14:09 |
| James147 | cajun: but now you know how to fix it :) | 14:09 |
| cajun | thank you so much. why is this not available in the gnome version of that app? | 14:09 |
| James147 | cajun: It might be, I dont use gnome so I dont know what is availble for it | 14:10 |
| cajun | yes. thank you. i just fixed the geust account. It was set to expire in 99999999 days | 14:10 |
| James147 | cajun: thats prity much never :) | 14:10 |
| cajun | yeah I know. but I fixed them all to never. | 14:12 |
| cajun | thank you so much for your help. i like the KDE4 but it doesn't seem as easy to use as the previous version. i can understand how to do everything that I see when I see screenshots of what others have done w/ it. | 14:12 |
| cajun | someone needs to create a really good tutorial on how to use KDE4. | 14:12 |
| James147 | cajun: I dont find it that hard to use :S and I know others find it easier to use the gnome | 14:13 |
| James147 | cajun: and a howto for kde4 would be quite along howto :) there is so much you can do | 14:14 |
| cajun | they both have their plusses for me. thanks so much for your help. have a good one. | 14:14 |
| lidinei | Hi, anyone know say why strigi/nepomuk not work on kubuntu? | 14:16 |
| Prune | how do I get all network statuses in Quassel? | 14:20 |
| simon___ | How to make a basic program in linux? | 14:20 |
| James147 | simon___: depends on what language you want to use, wat tookkit you want to use... | 14:21 |
| simon___ | i don't know! can you help me? i need something "basic" | 14:22 |
| simon___ | and easy | 14:22 |
| James147 | simon___: I would suggest python :) its only an interpreted language and so runs slower tehn most, but is very easy to use | 14:23 |
| James147 | simon___: http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ <- might be a good place to start | 14:24 |
| simon___ | ok! tnx. Can you get me a web site whit a Guide on how to use "python"...... ok | 14:24 |
| James147 | simon___: I would learn the basics of the language and programming in general first then move on to more advanced stuff like gui's later | 14:24 |
| BluesKaj | G`Day folks | 14:24 |
| simon___ | yeh! Tnx again! | 14:25 |
| James147 | simon___: When you do move to gui's I recomend qt :) but I wouldnet worry about that for now | 14:25 |
| simon___ | hehe! | 14:25 |
| lidinei | Hi, anyone know say why strigi/nepomuk does not work on kubuntu? | 14:31 |
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| larva | lidinei: it can be made to work by installing soprano-backend-sesame package and linking libjvm.so from your java installation to some folder where it can be found, for example /usr/local/lib/ | 14:57 |
| simon___ | dam dam dam | 14:57 |
| simon___ | Can | 14:57 |
| simon___ | Some | 14:57 |
| simon___ | One | 14:57 |
| simon___ | Help | 14:57 |
| simon___ | Me | 14:57 |
| simon___ | Whit | 14:57 |
| simon___ | My | 14:57 |
| simon___ | Problem | 14:57 |
| simon___ | I | 14:57 |
| simon___ | Can't | 14:57 |
| simon___ | Under | 14:57 |
| simon___ | Stand | 14:57 |
| simon___ | Python! | 14:58 |
| simon___ | dam dam dam | 14:58 |
| larva | simon___: use the biggest key on your keyboard instead of [enter], please | 14:58 |
| simon___ | ok! i will REmeber that! | 14:58 |
| simon___ | sry! | 14:58 |
| simon___ | dam dam dam | 14:59 |
| simon___ | Can | 14:59 |
| simon___ | Some | 14:59 |
| simon___ | One | 14:59 |
| simon___ | Help | 14:59 |
| simon___ | Me | 14:59 |
| simon___ | Whit | 14:59 |
| simon___ | My | 14:59 |
| simon___ | Problem | 14:59 |
| Pici | simon___: stop | 14:59 |
| Pici | simon___: Python support is in #python | 15:00 |
| simon___ | #python | 15:00 |
| jorgen | hey! | 15:24 |
| jorgen | is it correct that karmic is broken right now?? | 15:24 |
| jorgen | kdebase-workspace-bin: Depends: kdebase-workspace-data (= 4:4.3.1-0ubuntu7) but 4:4.3.1-0ubuntu5 is to be installed | 15:25 |
| genii | jorgen: Ask in #ubuntu+1 | 15:25 |
| genii | !karmic | jorgen | 15:25 |
| ubottu | jorgen: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic WILL break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 | 15:25 |
| jorgen | ok | 15:25 |
| jorgen | tnx :> | 15:25 |
| genii | np | 15:25 |
| jorgen | what is this channel for btw? | 15:25 |
| jorgen | user support? | 15:26 |
| Pici | Yes. | 15:26 |
| jorgen | ok, tnx | 15:26 |
| gianpiero | ciao | 15:30 |
| gianpiero | ?list | 15:30 |
| gianpiero | !list | 15:30 |
| ubottu | This is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » | 15:30 |
| jinkong8272 | hp | 15:51 |
| jinkong8272 | what is this? | 15:51 |
| jinkong8272 | i enter here in accation | 15:53 |
| [-Haza-] | Hey folks. Can i kill the process running on a certain port? | 16:32 |
| shrey | how should i start kicker kickoff of suse in kubuntu...i have installed it but how to i start it ? | 16:52 |
| andy___ | je veux installer google earth sur kubuntu | 16:54 |
| handjob | Good afternoon gentleman. Can anyone instruct me how to enable spellchecking in "quassel"? I would not like to commit rape on english language in public. | 16:54 |
| andy___ | je veux instaler google earth sur kubuntu | 16:55 |
| Pici | !fr | andy___ | 16:56 |
| ubottu | andy___: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr | 16:56 |
| andy___ | #ubunto-fr | 16:58 |
| andy___ | i want to install google earth on ubuntu | 17:00 |
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| genii | andy____: Perhaps visit for instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth | 17:05 |
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| === rosco_away is now known as rosco_y | ||
| ubuntu | joing #ubuntu+1 | 17:18 |
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| === rosco_y is now known as rosco_away | ||
| === rosco_away is now known as rosco_y | ||
| === rosco_y is now known as rosco_away | ||
| handjob | Does anyone knews how to enable spell checking in "quassel"? | 17:27 |
| boscop | konqueror often crashes when using the incremental search | 17:28 |
| rosco_y | is there a command I can run to check what type of cpu my ISP is using? | 17:29 |
| rosco_y | (from within a telnet prompt) | 17:30 |
| pkt | rosco_y: cat /proc/cpuinfo? | 17:31 |
| rosco_y | pkt, Thank you! | 17:31 |
| pkt | rosco_y: np | 17:31 |
| rosco_y | pkt: do you know how to tell if it is a 32 or 64 bit cpu? | 17:33 |
| rosco_y | I want to use some dot net software on my isp, but there is a 32 bit and a 64 bit version, and I don't know which to use | 17:33 |
| xorred | hey guys how can I extract only 1 folder from my tar.gz backup ? | 17:35 |
| rosco_y | xorred: did you try dragging and dropping? | 17:35 |
| xorred | and via command line? | 17:36 |
| rosco_y | xorred: sorry, I don't know the command line | 17:36 |
| rosco_y | I'll bet there is a way, there are a lot of options | 17:36 |
| llutz | xorred: tar xf tarfile.tar dir | 17:38 |
| llutz | xorred: tar xzf tarfile.tar.gz dir | 17:38 |
| handjob | rosco_y: lshw | less - then find "cpu" section. | 17:44 |
| xorred | llutz: how do I extract to /media/disk for example? | 17:49 |
| xorred | to a specific destination | 17:49 |
| llutz | xorred: man tar (-C) | 17:49 |
| xorred | yea it's 30 pages long vs. just one command | 17:51 |
| xorred | I know "man", that's why I'm here | 17:51 |
| handjob | I wander why "sudo apt-get update/upgrade" does not include kernel upgrade? | 17:54 |
| llutz | handjob: use dist-upgrade | 17:55 |
| Pici | handjob: Because the kernel packages are pulled in via a package dependency. You'd need to use apt-get dist-upgrade to get that. | 17:55 |
| handjob | Thank you gentleman. | 17:55 |
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| === wojtek is now known as SeungFu | ||
| W4gn3r | did anyone ever try KOffice? | 18:11 |
| xorred | how do I proceed if I lost my /boot folder? | 18:12 |
| xorred | I lost my /boot folder and now typing out of a live cd | 18:12 |
| rj_ | I tried to Install kOffice | 18:12 |
| rj_ | however, kubuntu won't let me :( | 18:12 |
| W4gn3r | lol | 18:12 |
| W4gn3r | I'm really curious, but I can't install it cuz I'm creating a live CD version | 18:13 |
| rj_ | I have a problem: | 18:13 |
| W4gn3r | =/ | 18:13 |
| rj_ | My laptop battery is dead | 18:13 |
| rj_ | and it sets the time at 1969 | 18:13 |
| rj_ | everytime I turn it on | 18:13 |
| rj_ | and when I try to boot kubuntu | 18:14 |
| xorred | how do I proceed if I lost my /boot folder? | 18:14 |
| rj_ | it crashes | 18:14 |
| W4gn3r | xorred: afaik, you can copy the live CD boot folder to your HD | 18:14 |
| xorred | relly? | 18:14 |
| xorred | and how do I reinstall grub then? | 18:14 |
| xorred | as I have windows too... | 18:14 |
| W4gn3r | rj_: did you try to boot on text mode? | 18:14 |
| xorred | don't wanna lose the windows boot loader | 18:14 |
| Mufasa | rj_: replace battery | 18:15 |
| W4gn3r | xorred: you can install grub normally, but you'll need to manually edit your menu.lst | 18:15 |
| rj_ | yes, I did, my only question is "what do I need to so that Linux doesn't check the date?" | 18:15 |
| rj_ | I can replace the battery | 18:15 |
| xorred | hmmm... but the live cd detects any OSs that are there | 18:15 |
| xorred | I guess there is a way to follow the same procedure? | 18:15 |
| rj_ | can't | 18:15 |
| xorred | somehow it automatically detects there is another OS | 18:15 |
| xorred | no need to manually do anything? | 18:15 |
| W4gn3r | xorred: it does detect, but during installation | 18:16 |
| W4gn3r | during the system installation | 18:16 |
| rj_ | it crashes 'cause of the time set at 1969 | 18:16 |
| W4gn3r | xorred: but it's simple, just 4 small lines, and you can add you Windows partition to the grub list | 18:16 |
| rj_ | so....? | 18:17 |
| W4gn3r | rj_: buy a battery =/ | 18:17 |
| W4gn3r | it's cheaper and faster | 18:17 |
| rj_ | Can't | 18:17 |
| rj_ | I'm not in the US | 18:17 |
| rj_ | I'm in latin america | 18:17 |
| rj_ | so.... | 18:17 |
| rj_ | No one ships here | 18:17 |
| rj_ | besides that, it's an ibook.... | 18:18 |
| W4gn3r | any PC battery is the same | 18:18 |
| W4gn3r | u can buy one anywhere | 18:18 |
| Mufasa | rj_: try to set date very early durring boot to later date | 18:18 |
| rj_ | no, there's no battery inside of apple laptops, well at least on ibooks G3 | 18:18 |
| rj_ | I did that, and Linux was acting stupid.... | 18:19 |
| W4gn3r | xorred: you must copy the boot folder, generate the boot and init files, and install grub | 18:19 |
| rj_ | wait, during boot ? | 18:19 |
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| rj_ | how do you do that? | 18:19 |
| rj_ | ??? | 18:20 |
| xorred | how do I do that | 18:20 |
| W4gn3r | xorred: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows | 18:20 |
| handjob | Gentleman i want to install nvidia drivers using tty1 however installer is whining about running X session. The problem is when i kill "X" i am automaticly dropped to login ( gdm? ) so i guess i must stop it first however i don't see it in init.d? | 18:21 |
| Mufasa | rj_: create file /etc/rcS.d/S01changedate.sh then insert command there that will change date to something closer to 2009 | 18:21 |
| Mufasa | rj_: it should work unless it craches sooner than system v | 18:22 |
| W4gn3r | handjob: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop ? | 18:22 |
| rj_ | @Mufasa what is the command? | 18:22 |
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| llutz | handjob: ctrl-alt-f1, login, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, install nvidia then | 18:22 |
| xorred | that link only explains if you have boot folder untouched | 18:22 |
| xorred | mine is gone | 18:22 |
| Mufasa | rj_: i knew you'd ask… wait i havent done it in ages… | 18:22 |
| alexis_ | hi! how to enable video's thumbnails? | 18:23 |
| alexis_ | in kde 4.3.x | 18:23 |
| handjob | The problem is as i pointed before that i don't have "gdm" in my "init.d". Mostly strange. | 18:23 |
| alexis_ | (in konqueror or desktop) | 18:23 |
| llutz | handjob: xdm/kdm? | 18:23 |
| handjob | llutz: Of course. "Kdm" - thank you kind sir. | 18:23 |
| Mufasa | rj_: something like that: date -s 2009.04.08-22:46+0100 | 18:24 |
| rj_ | @Mufasa you sure? | 18:25 |
| Mufasa | rj_: no… :) | 18:25 |
| Mufasa | rj_: check that in console first | 18:25 |
| rj_ | so... I'm a total newbie.... so how? | 18:25 |
| Mufasa | rj_: try alt+f2 and type xterm | 18:26 |
| Mufasa | rj_: then inside that window | 18:26 |
| rj_ | nothing happened.... | 18:27 |
| rj_ | hey, for the command, is this correct: "date set="2 OCT 2006 18:00:00"" | 18:29 |
| rj_ | ??? | 18:30 |
| Mufasa | rj_: there it is: date -s "wed jul 30 19:41:00 BST 2008" | 18:31 |
| Mufasa | that works | 18:31 |
| rj_ | @mufasa ok, so I'm about to restart my laptop.... | 18:32 |
| rj_ | @mufasa If I don't comeback, tell my wife and daughter that I love them.... | 18:33 |
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| jarek | kubuntu.pl | 19:39 |
| * Ev0luti0n_ listening to Deep Purple - Child in time | 19:53 | |
| rosco_y | Does anyone know of a good XML editor for Linux? | 19:58 |
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| mostafa_ | any body knows how to auto power on the computer ? | 21:17 |
| david__ | hey | 21:33 |
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| _motti_ | hi guys. I'm trying to install a latex package on kubuntu and I'm constantly failing. Is there anyone here who has the know how? | 21:42 |
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| maxx_ | привет всем | 21:55 |
| maxx_ | есть кто нибудь из России??? | 21:55 |
| maxx_ | а тут всегда молчат? | 21:56 |
| maxx_ | hi all | 21:57 |
| maxx_ | я не могу понять здесь вообще говорят??? | 22:00 |
| maxx_ | или нет? | 22:00 |
| chalcedony | hi maxx_ | 22:00 |
| maxx_ | щщщщщ | 22:00 |
| maxx_ | hi | 22:00 |
| maxx_ | )))) | 22:00 |
| chalcedony | you might see if there is a #ubuntu-ru or so ? | 22:00 |
| maxx_ | yes | 22:01 |
| maxx_ | Thank u very much | 22:02 |
| maxx_ | <chalcedony>Where are u from? | 22:03 |
| maxx_ | USA? | 22:04 |
| ergnarsln | b | 22:05 |
| chalcedony | maxx_, yes | 22:06 |
| maxx_ | )))) great | 22:06 |
| maxx_ | I`m from Russia | 22:07 |
| maxx_ | Ubuntu forever | 22:07 |
| maxx_ | the best system | 22:07 |
| dracnoc | damn, it's quiet in here. Anyone got something to say? Perhaps they ran over a cat today... that would be interesting. | 22:31 |
| dracnoc | Or even a comment about Karmic doing something with KDE4.3.1 - that would be nice. | 22:32 |
| dracnoc | ok.. ok... how about a small anecdote about Slackware? Not even a small limerick about XFCE? | 22:36 |
| etienne_ | hello | 22:36 |
| dracnoc | OMG!!! Life! Hello! | 22:36 |
| maxximo | #ubuntu.ru | 22:36 |
| * dracnoc PrintScreens the moment | 22:37 | |
| dracnoc | maxximo: what about Russian Ubuntu chat? | 22:38 |
| * dracnoc falls over | 22:40 | |
| luca | kubuntu is stuck in a grey screen with balls when switching from battery to ac. This only happen if I made a suspension since last reboot. | 22:41 |
| ikonia | dracnoc: easy on the /me commands please | 22:41 |
| dracnoc | I'm guessing laptop... make and model? | 22:41 |
| luca | fujitsu-siemens amilo m3438g | 22:41 |
| dracnoc | i know fu-si laptops are a little weird when it comes to suspend/resume, any error messages? | 22:43 |
| epimeth | aloha peeps! :-) | 22:43 |
| dracnoc | hiya epimeth | 22:43 |
| luca | I don't know which log file to search | 22:44 |
| dracnoc | ikonia: two whole /me comms, not exactly a flood... | 22:44 |
| dracnoc | at least peeps are talking | 22:44 |
| epimeth | so I was wondering... how do I get the desktop cube effect to work like it did in compiz? IE ctrl+alt+mouseclick + mousemove? | 22:44 |
| ikonia | dracnoc: hence why I said easy on them please, | 22:45 |
| dracnoc | ikonia: no probs, i'm just glad the room is moving | 22:45 |
| epimeth | and what the heck is this? (just came up) freenode-connect [freenode@freenode/bot/connect] requested CTCP VERSION from epimeth: | 22:45 |
| ikonia | if it's quiet, no need to make it noisey, just ask a support question and if someone knows the answer they will answer | 22:46 |
| ikonia | epimeth: a freenode bot, the guys in #freenode can explain it for you | 22:46 |
| * epimeth pumps up the jams | 22:46 | |
| epimeth | ikonia: I figured... thanks tho | 22:47 |
| dracnoc | epimeth: did you look install the "desktop-effects-kde" package? | 22:48 |
| dracnoc | look to install* | 22:49 |
| dracnoc | damn, that was a terrible typo | 22:49 |
| epimeth | dracnoc: I don't want compiz as my window manager... I just want to know if the kdm effects allow me to configure it like compiz does by default? I don't like ctrl+f11 to pop it up and enter to select the desktop I want | 22:50 |
| dracnoc | kde effects uses compiz, all part of the same thing, but you can configure the key combo | 22:52 |
| luca | when stuck on grey screen, my system keeps responding to x events (i can blindly write to a shell ) | 22:52 |
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| epimeth | dracnoc: it uses compiz, yes, but its integrated into kdm... like I said, I don't want compiz to be my window manager! When trying to configure the shortcut, mouseclick is not an option.... | 22:53 |
| luca | [75074.252098] r8169 0000:01:05.0: wake-up capability disabled by ACPI | 22:54 |
| luca | dmesg output ?? | 22:54 |
| dracnoc | luca, fu-si laptops are funny things, some really weird hardware in there. You may not have much luck with the greyscreen resume/suspend problem. It has been a weakness of (K)ubuntu in the past. Unless someone has found a solution by accident, you may be stuck. | 22:54 |
| dracnoc | epimeth: give me a moment, I have it running here. I'll have a play with the options. What's your mouse device (touchpad, mouse (PS2/USB))? | 22:56 |
| dracnoc | epimeth: my mouse seems to work here. | 22:59 |
| dracnoc | epimeth: not sure why yours is not recognised | 22:59 |
| dracnoc | (as a key combo) | 23:00 |
| epimeth | dracnoc: touchpad... where did you change your settings? | 23:00 |
| dracnoc | epimeth: I have the compizconfig-settings-manager (ccsm) installed. The key combo should work through that. | 23:02 |
| luca | dracnoc: after a reboot I can switch between battery and ac without any problem. After suspension I can't switch to ac anymore, unless i connect power cable while on suspension and then wake up. could you tell me wich log file to look into? | 23:03 |
| luca | my laptop is one step to work perfectly | 23:03 |
| luca | please help me | 23:03 |
| dracnoc | luca, give me a few minutes. I'll try to find out what i can | 23:03 |
| luca | thanks! | 23:04 |
| dracnoc | luca: it seems to be a problem running back to 2005... hold on | 23:07 |
| dracnoc | luca: you can run with ACPI support off, but you will lose battery indicators | 23:08 |
| dracnoc | luca: there appears to be no fix | 23:09 |
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| luca | dracnoc: I serched a lot on my issue but without success. can you tell me where you found those infos? | 23:11 |
| dracnoc | luca, sorry, i compile info from a lot of different sources (some of read at over 2000+ words/minute). It's a general opinion from various forums ubuntuforums.org/linuxquestions.org, etc. I may have missed something (I'm only human afterall!), but those two are a good start. | 23:13 |
| dracnoc | some of us read* | 23:13 |
| dracnoc | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=673833 - might help you | 23:14 |
| luca | thank you very much. I apreciate your help! afterall kubuntu is great for my laptop | 23:15 |
| dracnoc | luca: glad i could help in some way. any more questions, please feel free to ask! | 23:15 |
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| dracnoc | luca: this might help too - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=497909 | 23:19 |
| === Paraselene____ is now known as Paraselene_ | ||
| dracnoc | might?! may* damn, my english is all over the place tonight... | 23:23 |
| dracnoc | wb luca | 23:23 |
| luca | it seems that my issue is vanishing after log-out | 23:25 |
| luca | and i don't have any issue with gnome or fluxbox | 23:26 |
| luca | can i force logout before any suspension? | 23:26 |
| dracnoc | ok... so it's not a hardware issue. | 23:27 |
| dracnoc | luca: logout before suspension? Doesn't one contradict the other? You cannot "suspend" an account if you have logged out of it... | 23:29 |
| luca | why? I'm talking about suspension to ram. If i suspend at the login screen that would save a lot of time in comparison to a full reboot | 23:32 |
| dracnoc | ah, i see... excuse me. | 23:32 |
| dracnoc | hold on. | 23:32 |
| luca | for sure, it would be more usefull to suspend the logged session | 23:33 |
| luca | ah, i'm running nvidia drivers! | 23:33 |
| dracnoc | It seems to be a problem with even modern Fu-Si hardware (no real surprises there!) | 23:35 |
| dracnoc | I can easily link to 500+ pages with Fu-Si laptops with suspend to RAM problems. You may have a insolvable problem!! | 23:36 |
| dracnoc | I go back to my original point that Fu-Si laptops are a pain to work with, the H/W is a little odd at best, at the Sus. to RAM is a "fortunate" and somewhat minimal problem from what I can see. | 23:40 |
| luca | tank you ! I will try disabling nvidia proprietary drivers, If all goes well with the open driver i may send an e-mail to nvidia! | 23:40 |
| dracnoc | luca: good luck! | 23:42 |
| luca | thanks! | 23:42 |
| luca | bye | 23:44 |
| sourcemaker | what is the best newsgroup server (using knode) | 23:57 |
| sourcemaker | !newsgroup | 23:58 |
| ubottu | There are Ubuntu newsgroups via NNTP at news.gmane.org | 23:58 |
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