[00:02] do i go to my router to change the port or to kopete to change the port cuz i cant find where to change the port in kopete? [00:06] hello [00:18] Howdy :) [00:18] I have a bit of a dilema, maybe you guys can help me with it [00:19] I am trying to update my driver for Nvidia on this kubuntu 9.04 install [00:19] i went to the nvidia web site to download the driver and got a .run file for the linux 32 distro [00:20] i ran it but it tell me that i need to run it in Root. How do i run it in root ? [00:20] sudo sh *.run [00:21] Thanks :) [00:21] :) [00:22] Looks like i theres another problem. [00:22] ERROR: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing. [00:22] how can i stop X Server ? [00:23] try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop [00:23] Thanks :) [00:23] command not found :( [00:24] sorry: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop [00:24] what would the application name be for a port on a router for kopete be: telnet, http, https, ftp, dns, smtp, pop3, h.323, remote desktop, pptp, l2tp, or wake-on-lan? [00:24] Oh :P [00:24] gdm is for Ubuntu, kdm for Kubuntu [00:36] what is better... egroupware or opengroupware [00:39] * nit is away: Gone away for now [01:12] port forwarding tcp and udp ports are both port 80 correct? [01:15] hi quick question: Does ubuntu run as well on a Mac as on a PC or is it design to work better with PC hardware? [01:26] hello? [01:26] i need help with my kubuntu [01:56] is there a KDESU ninja here [01:56] can i take your 10 mins [02:02] hey guys, does anyone know of a channel for java developers? [02:03] I'd like to talk to someone about developing a console app for a web service [02:18] всем привет, Помогите найти работоспособную асю для линя [02:19] !ru | ivan__ [02:19] ivan__: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke === sid_ is now known as Guest23451 [02:40] * nit is back. === mirco_ is now known as mirco === bret is now known as freelancer317 [02:50] * nit is away: Gone away for now === me is now known as Guest51781 === patrick is now known as fargo189 [03:04] Can anyone point me in the right direction for reinstalling my soundcard? I edited alsa-base.conf and now it doesn't recognize my card. running a grep | Codec gives me "No sound card detected". I have the latest version of alsa, just missing the card. Any help? [03:05] I'm using an Asus if that helps [03:27] where do i find the default gateway in linux? [03:28] if you are on dhcp no need to worry. if not dhcp man interfaces [03:28] my nokia 5200 is turning off everytime I try to connect it to the internet with kubuntu karmic alpha6's network manager [03:28] why is it happenning? [03:29] kppp is working fine, but I want to use the default kubuntu network manager [03:29] when you install alphas you have to be prepared to chase down a bug [03:30] jsubl2: hmm ok but Im not having any other problem, just this [03:31] i dont have any experience with that kinda config... so i have no idea [03:31] kde has improved a lot, many new features in plasmoid and other apps :) [03:31] jsubl2: im using a 2g edge connection [03:31] yeah it is lookin better.. not convinced it is the 1 yet. still playin and testin [03:32] dissapointed with kopete and no webcam. [03:32] so is that edge workin for ya [03:32] what kinda thruput [03:32] jsubl2: is there a difference between direct kubuntu installation and kubuntu-desktop package installation from gnome? [03:32] i like to see the grandkids with the webcam. [03:33] jsubl2: yah I can connect it with kppp [03:33] not sure but i would think they would be close [03:33] jsubl2: I installed kubuntu-desktop in jaunty but it looks different from kubuntu karmic [03:34] i am kinda new to kubuntu.. yahoo cutoff the old protocols for kopete so we had to move to a newer distro.... was on debian stable [03:34] donno if it has changed in karmic or kubuntu-desktop pack is different from original kubuntu [03:34] yeah the first thing i change is the looks anyway [03:34] if the apps are there and work. that is what i would be concerned with [03:35] aptitude search kubuntu see if you see anything else you might need [03:35] i used gnome before but now im settled in kde, since kde4.0 release [03:35] Hi there, I'm having an annoying hang at every shutdown. It says: setting advanced power management level to 0x80 [03:35] on 904 [03:36] P_Kable: turn off advanced power management from /boot/grub/menu.lst [03:36] i see problems shutdown also.. i logout and then shutdown from kdm and it seems to work better [03:36] alokito: thanks I try that right now ;) [03:36] add this beside ur boot entry: acpi=off [03:36] alokito: what if you are a laptop [03:37] added it right after splash [03:37] jsubl2: I used it in my old laptop, it runs on dc power though [03:37] ok so maybe it is safe [03:38] kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-kde4-desktop [03:39] jsubl2: kubuntu-desktop now installs kde4 by default [03:39] awwwwwwww [03:40] firefox should be default in kde [03:40] konqueror is not so good for regular browsing [03:41] yeah agreed there [03:42] brb [03:42] k [03:53] * nit is back. [04:23] !ktts [04:23] Sorry, I don't know anything about ktts [04:23] what application name do i give kopete in port forwarding rules on the router? [04:23] !info ktts [04:23] Error: I tried to send you an empty message. [04:23] !info ktts [04:23] Package ktts does not exist in jaunty [04:23] umm [04:23] i cant connect to my contacts in kopete. it keeps saying that they are offline and that wait till they are online or use software that supports offline protocol. [04:24] does ktts work with kde 4 [04:26] is harolddong peterbuldge? [04:27] if it is what application name do i give kopete in port forwarding rules on the router? and i cant connect to my contacts in kopete. it keeps saying that they are offline and that wait till they are online or use software that supports offline protocol. [04:29] yes [04:30] nice can u help me? [04:30] I didnt see your question [04:30] the people over in xchat arent helping me at all [04:30] what application name do i give kopete in port forwarding rules on the router? and i cant connect to my contacts in kopete. it keeps saying that they are offline and that wait till they are online or use software that supports offline protocol. [04:31] name it kopete [04:31] duh [04:32] i did that but its asking for the application name like gaming names [04:32] theres nothing even resembling an im name in the list [04:33] oh and are the tcp and udp ports the same port number? [04:34] see if you can get pidgin installed and talk to me there [04:34] and no they arent [04:35] I dont think "port forwarding"is really what you want to do. you just want to open ports [04:35] so youare probably in the wrong place in your router control panel. that is the first problem. I remember we went through this same thing before [04:36] secondly, kopete itself doesnt really any ports that need to be opened. its the protocols themselves, like aim and yahoo. I told you this is a txt message the other night [04:36] pretend im a newb and have some compassion ha ha [04:37] that's what I'm doing [04:37] but you're still not getting it [04:37] yeah i remember so why doesnt it work perfectly like it has before? does have anything to do with needing to upgrade kde? [04:38] can you get pidginn installed? [04:38] what am i not getting? what am i not doing right or wrong or overlooking? [04:39] well I explain this stuff to you and the next day you're asking me the same questions or in the exact predicament. its like groundhog day [05:31] Hello, having massive issues with resolution on boot - it resets my res every time I logout... [05:31] I have seen all the help-pages on this, and am likely very confused at this point [05:42] anyone in here? [05:43] Ubuntu does not detect USB storage devices after it's been running for a bit of time. It sees it in lsusb, but not block device is created/detected, and it's not showing up in fdisk. Anyone got any advice? [05:43] s/ubuntu/kubuntu [05:47] http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9853/pantallazoth.jpg === bizkit_ is now known as bizkit === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [06:00] I installed Quicken 2008 using Wine in Kubuntu 9.04, and I have an item in KIckoff for it. How do I find the command line corresponding to that Kickoff entry? Is it in a .desktop file somewhere or a .kickoff menu structure? [06:01] It's not in ~/.kde/share/config/kickoffrc ... [06:03] C'mon, Windows Start menu has RIGHT-click > Properties > General tab that shows you the exec line. [06:06] skierpage, You can't usefully right-click on an item in Kickoff, but right-click its 'K' icon, choose Menu Editor, then navigate mindlessly around until you find the item in a category, then choose it and see the Command line for it, in this case ' env WINEPREFIX="/home/skierpage/.wine" wine "C:\Program Files\Quicken\qw.exe" ' [06:06] skierpage, thanks! U R awesome. [06:09] hola === patrick is now known as rouser [06:34] I'm a total idiot and I deleted my taskbar, so now I have to alt-tab to change programs on my window. Google wasn't helpful at all, is there a quickfix to restore it? New from Ubuntu [06:34] right click on desktop [06:34] yeah? [06:34] add panel [06:35] i didn't lose the entire panel, just the part that displayed current tasks/windows [06:35] is there a way to make a new one then merge it back? [06:38] nevermind, found it in the cashew === kb is now known as Guest94948 [07:12] how much HD space does kubuntu use? [07:48] anyone in here using a one of the many linux OS's on an apple computer? [07:49] !anyone | Balsaq [07:49] Balsaq: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [07:50] so i do thisd 1st...! [07:52] newbie here, are so saying i asked my question incorrectly? [07:57] !2004 apple g4 desktop compatibility kubuntu [07:57] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [07:57] man yur tough... [07:57] !apple [07:57] For PPC discussion, join #ubuntu-powerpc. For discussion on Mac software, or help with same, please visit ##apple. [07:57] ah hah [07:57] you like that one === joseph is now known as jammen33 [08:09] Balsaq: what i meant was if you ask anyone use here you are likely to get a yes/no answer. if you tell what your actual problem is, the real question that you might ask to someone who does use ... [08:10] dont know what means but i think i get your point [08:10] is a substitute for any thing, insert what you were asking about there :D [08:11] lol [08:11] moin [08:11] :O [08:11] :D [08:11] so go like this... ? [08:11] mooin! [08:12] haaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaa [08:12] ihr ratten# [08:12] finn ist doof :D [08:13] ihr doof [08:13] und behind [08:13] schinken!!!!! [08:13] karottensaft [08:13] ?? [08:13] mit riesenrad [08:13] behindert? [08:13] bist bewölkt [08:13] www.gidf.de [08:14] www.finn-ist-behind.de [08:14] hansen: please use english only in here [08:15] Balsaq: no, just ask your question... [08:15] hansen: sorry... [08:16] ok that is usually my favorite way! [08:17] Balsaq: all I was trying to say was ask the real question, not the "anyone" question [08:22] have a nice day jussie01 [08:48] hi [08:54] I need help with karmic [08:54] whats your problem [08:54] i download the iso, but I have no dvd burner [08:55] you need an virtual drive [08:56] habanany: karmic help is in #ubuntu+1 :) [08:56] forgot to say I have windows 7 [08:56] habanany: have you a usb pen drive? [08:56] open: http://dream-linux.homelinux.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=62 [08:56] !usb | habanany [08:56] habanany: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [08:56] yes i have a 4 gb pen [08:57] thats not much [08:57] habanany: have a look at the first link then [08:57] i have an 8 GB [08:57] can you repeat the link [08:57] !usb | habanany [08:58] habanany: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [08:58] yeah usb 4gb [09:02] thanks guys [09:02] bye [09:05] hai === bond is now known as Guest12601 [09:20] всем привет! [09:20] privet [09:25] Anybody else got their desktop hosed by dist-upgrade lately (kde 4.3, missing kdebase-workspace packages)? [09:28] hi [09:28] any one can help setting remote debugger? [09:28] i mean, every thing is installed but i cant connect [09:28] have the ips in the allow hosts but still === prxq_ is now known as prxq [09:34] hi everyone,is there a way to syncronize my windows mobile device contacts with kubuntu?? (kontact or thunderbird) [09:36] Assurbanipal: you can try opensync [09:37] is it actually working now??because all my efforts in the past were waste of time :( [09:37] Assurbanipal: not sure, but improvments are made all the time, I havent tryed it in ages so I can say... [09:38] Assurbanipal: The other thing I was looking into was to sync my PDA to google, then sync google to my computer(s) but havent really looked into it yet [09:38] i just need my contacts to synchronize....it's a pain in the ass... [09:39] Assurbanipal: yeah, I know how you feel :) [09:42] i have switched to ubuntu for about a year on both my laptop and pc and this is one of the biggest annoyances i find... i can't say i miss windows just for that, but is a big problam for me because i exchange personal details with many people all the time and need to have them synced... [09:42] it has to be worked out... [09:45] Assurbanipal: I would try syncing with google, you might have more luck === Uqbar_ is now known as Uqbar [09:52] James147: unfortunatelly i have gone through that way for the moment, but is is a work around and not a real solution....does anyone know how syncing works between ubuntu and android? === Tabstar is now known as Tabmow === max is now known as Guest15032 [10:29] AHHHH [10:29] hi ! [10:46] Why can't I see any shared folders from other computers? I installed samba and configured /etc/samba/smb.conf to share folders and restarted samba service... [10:48] I can see other machines from this kubuntu 9.04, but other machines cant see shares from this machine. Is there a FIREWALL blocking sharing or what? [10:49] Why does /etc/samba/smb.conf make any difference, not even a warning when I put something wrong to it? [10:49] gentobuntu: I would make sure samba is useing the same workgroup [10:51] is there any way that the plasma widgets appears only when I push control-f12?? and always in the background of my desktop?? [10:51] is there a way to give openoffice a different theme than everything else? [10:53] Idhan: in kde 4.3 you can have seperate dashboard widgets, so when you push crtl + F12 different widgets will appear, you can configure by zooming out of the desktops (from the cashew) the click configure plasma -> check use seperate dashboard [10:54] Idhan: from what you said you can have no widgets on the desktop, and place widgets on the dashboard so that they appear when you press ctrl+f12 [10:54] James147: It is the same workgroup, here is the conf, it works on Gentoo server like that, http://pastebin.com/d196ac9a2 [10:55] gentobuntu: see if you can access it from the computer thats hosting it [10:57] James147: No. smbtree -does not show any shares, its like /etc/init.d/samba -service does not even read the smb.conf ?? [10:58] gentobuntu: As far as I can tell there isent anything wrong with the config [10:58] James147: smbtree does show shares from other machines.. [10:59] James147: No hyvä kun tuo graafinen juttu ei käynnisty... [10:59] ?? [11:00] James147: where is this "configure plasma"?? [11:00] James147: The graphical "sahre this folder" does not start at all.. [11:00] gentobuntu: is samba installed? [11:01] James147: if I add widgets in the dashboard after I press ctr-f12, and I add there some widgets, after I come back to the desktop the same widgets are there [11:01] Idhan: click the cashew thing thats in the corner of the desktop, you should be able to "zoom out" [11:01] James147: Yes, and I'v /etc/init.d/samba start and allso restart... [11:01] James147: ok [11:02] * Starting Samba daemons [ OK ] [11:03] gentobuntu: not sure whats wrong :s you could try purging samba and reinstalling it [11:03] James147: yes.. I see the zoom out... I try to move some widgets out of the desktop background in the bottom area..but after I stop the drag action, automatically the return to the desktop area [11:04] Idhan: once you have zoomed out there should be a "configure plasma" option, click that and check "use seperate daskpoard" [11:05] Idhan: this is in kde 4.3.1, not sure it is in kde 4.2.X, what version are you useing? [11:05] 4.2.2 [11:05] James147: are you using kubuntu 9.04? [11:06] Idhan: yes, but with kde 4.3.1 [11:06] James147: is that a safe upgrade?? [11:06] Idhan: I think it was added to kde 4.3, if you really want it you can upgrade via http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.1 [11:07] James147: thanks [11:07] Idhan: You welcome :) === administrator is now known as Guest82427 [12:19] Hi [12:19] Пт [12:25] In what conf file is the delay between login and password defined? It is annoying when there is 5sec delay!! Both VNC and SSH has the delay.. [12:27] gentobuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=943672 <- might help === Assurbanipal_ is now known as Assurbanipal [12:27] gentobuntu: btw, did you get samba working in the end? === root is now known as Guest56126 === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:01] hi, how i can see what users i have in my os from konsole [13:04] user_: cat /etc/group will show all users including system ones as well as teh groups they belong to [13:05] ok thx [13:21] James147: Yep, I reinstalled samba and then it started to log errors to /var/log/s... and there was few in my smb.conf, now working 100% [13:21] gentobuntu: :) [13:24] I'm running ubuntu with xfce and I want to have mouse gestures in konqueror, but I don't have kde control center. is there a way to enable them without installing it? [13:24] I just need back and forward [13:31] and a second thing: when I press middle mouse button on a tab, I get a msg: protocol not supported, but the tab doesn't close. I have enabled tab closing with middle mouse button in the settings though === g600116 is now known as OcGatSag [13:56] I don't know whether it matters, ubuntu or kubuntu. I have Kubuntu Jaunty installed but use gnome more often. One of my users has to change his password regularly yet I have not had to myself. Is this because he has administrative privileges? [14:00] cajun: I know you can set a time at which passwords expire, not sure if its system wide or user wide though [14:02] cajun: in kuser if you double click on a user to get settings for that user there is a "password managment" tab that lets you set password expiry times [14:02] well he's the only user on my system that has to reset. i created a guest account with limited user priveleges and it's pw remains the same. [14:02] cajun: looks to be user spific [14:02] i used the "Users and Groups" manager to create and make changes for both additional users. === kitterma is now known as ScottK-netbook [14:03] kdesudo kuser? [14:03] cajun: the default is no timeout, maby his got set somehow? [14:03] i jsut ran kuser and it asked for password :) needs to be root either way [14:05] fo some reason, kuser showed that he is disabled. which is odd [14:05] cajun: maby his password expired? [14:05] how do I get the kmplayer konqueror plugin to work in jaunty it doesnt play anything [14:06] he just changed it again last night [14:06] cajun: either way you can try to enable him and take off the expireing password to see if it works [14:06] kuser is set so that passwords never expire. [14:06] i don't see a way to change this setting for a specific user [14:07] cajun: for me i click on the user, a box pops up with more info, password expriey is on Password Managment tab [14:08] ah. that fixed it. [14:09] he had expire deadlines. [14:09] i have no idea how that happened. [14:09] cajun: but now you know how to fix it :) [14:09] thank you so much. why is this not available in the gnome version of that app? [14:10] cajun: It might be, I dont use gnome so I dont know what is availble for it [14:10] yes. thank you. i just fixed the geust account. It was set to expire in 99999999 days [14:10] cajun: thats prity much never :) [14:12] yeah I know. but I fixed them all to never. [14:12] thank you so much for your help. i like the KDE4 but it doesn't seem as easy to use as the previous version. i can understand how to do everything that I see when I see screenshots of what others have done w/ it. [14:12] someone needs to create a really good tutorial on how to use KDE4. [14:13] cajun: I dont find it that hard to use :S and I know others find it easier to use the gnome [14:14] cajun: and a howto for kde4 would be quite along howto :) there is so much you can do [14:14] they both have their plusses for me. thanks so much for your help. have a good one. [14:16] Hi, anyone know say why strigi/nepomuk not work on kubuntu? [14:20] how do I get all network statuses in Quassel? [14:20] How to make a basic program in linux? [14:21] simon___: depends on what language you want to use, wat tookkit you want to use... [14:22] i don't know! can you help me? i need something "basic" [14:22] and easy [14:23] simon___: I would suggest python :) its only an interpreted language and so runs slower tehn most, but is very easy to use [14:24] simon___: http://docs.python.org/tutorial/ <- might be a good place to start [14:24] ok! tnx. Can you get me a web site whit a Guide on how to use "python"...... ok [14:24] simon___: I would learn the basics of the language and programming in general first then move on to more advanced stuff like gui's later [14:24] G`Day folks [14:25] yeh! Tnx again! [14:25] simon___: When you do move to gui's I recomend qt :) but I wouldnet worry about that for now [14:25] hehe! [14:31] Hi, anyone know say why strigi/nepomuk does not work on kubuntu? === john is now known as Guest65085 === nameiner_ is now known as nameiner [14:57] lidinei: it can be made to work by installing soprano-backend-sesame package and linking libjvm.so from your java installation to some folder where it can be found, for example /usr/local/lib/ [14:57] dam dam dam [14:57] Can [14:57] Some [14:57] One [14:57] Help [14:57] Me [14:57] Whit [14:57] My [14:57] Problem [14:57] I [14:57] Can't [14:57] Under [14:57] Stand [14:58] Python! [14:58] dam dam dam [14:58] simon___: use the biggest key on your keyboard instead of [enter], please [14:58] ok! i will REmeber that! [14:58] sry! [14:59] dam dam dam [14:59] Can [14:59] Some [14:59] One [14:59] Help [14:59] Me [14:59] Whit [14:59] My [14:59] Problem [14:59] simon___: stop [15:00] simon___: Python support is in #python [15:00] #python [15:24] hey! [15:24] is it correct that karmic is broken right now?? [15:25] kdebase-workspace-bin: Depends: kdebase-workspace-data (= 4:4.3.1-0ubuntu7) but 4:4.3.1-0ubuntu5 is to be installed [15:25] jorgen: Ask in #ubuntu+1 [15:25] !karmic | jorgen [15:25] jorgen: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic WILL break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 [15:25] ok [15:25] tnx :> [15:25] np [15:25] what is this channel for btw? [15:26] user support? [15:26] Yes. [15:26] ok, tnx [15:30] ciao [15:30] ?list [15:30] !list [15:30] This is not a file sharing channel (or network). If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot » [15:51] hp [15:51] what is this? [15:53] i enter here in accation [16:32] <[-Haza-]> Hey folks. Can i kill the process running on a certain port? [16:52] how should i start kicker kickoff of suse in kubuntu...i have installed it but how to i start it ? [16:54] je veux installer google earth sur kubuntu [16:54] Good afternoon gentleman. Can anyone instruct me how to enable spellchecking in "quassel"? I would not like to commit rape on english language in public. [16:55] je veux instaler google earth sur kubuntu [16:56] !fr | andy___ [16:56] andy___: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr [16:58] #ubunto-fr [17:00] i want to install google earth on ubuntu === rosco_y is now known as rosco_away [17:05] andy____: Perhaps visit for instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GoogleEarth === DarkV is now known as Mufasa === rosco_away is now known as rosco_y [17:18] joing #ubuntu+1 === ubuntu is now known as pkt === rosco_y is now known as rosco_away === rosco_away is now known as rosco_y === rosco_y is now known as rosco_away [17:27] Does anyone knews how to enable spell checking in "quassel"? [17:28] konqueror often crashes when using the incremental search [17:29] is there a command I can run to check what type of cpu my ISP is using? [17:30] (from within a telnet prompt) [17:31] rosco_y: cat /proc/cpuinfo? [17:31] pkt, Thank you! [17:31] rosco_y: np [17:33] pkt: do you know how to tell if it is a 32 or 64 bit cpu? [17:33] I want to use some dot net software on my isp, but there is a 32 bit and a 64 bit version, and I don't know which to use [17:35] hey guys how can I extract only 1 folder from my tar.gz backup ? [17:35] xorred: did you try dragging and dropping? [17:36] and via command line? [17:36] xorred: sorry, I don't know the command line [17:36] I'll bet there is a way, there are a lot of options [17:38] xorred: tar xf tarfile.tar dir [17:38] xorred: tar xzf tarfile.tar.gz dir [17:44] rosco_y: lshw | less - then find "cpu" section. [17:49] llutz: how do I extract to /media/disk for example? [17:49] to a specific destination [17:49] xorred: man tar (-C) [17:51] yea it's 30 pages long vs. just one command [17:51] I know "man", that's why I'm here [17:54] I wander why "sudo apt-get update/upgrade" does not include kernel upgrade? [17:55] handjob: use dist-upgrade [17:55] handjob: Because the kernel packages are pulled in via a package dependency. You'd need to use apt-get dist-upgrade to get that. [17:55] Thank you gentleman. === DarkV is now known as Mufasa === wojtek is now known as SeungFu [18:11] did anyone ever try KOffice? [18:12]