| beuno | mrevell, ping? | 00:02 |
|---|---|---|
| mrevell | hi beuno | 00:02 |
| beuno | blog posts seem to be coming up, but some can't be accessed, although they are linked? | 00:02 |
| beuno | wow, I didn't *really* expect you to be around :) | 00:02 |
| mrevell | beuno: Hi man. No, I didn't expect to be around :) The posts are there but they're not due to be published until 3.0 is released. I don't wanna publish a 3.0 announcement before the 3.0 release :) It just sucks that edge links to broken blog posts. Hopefully next cycle we'll have a real live blog feed there instead. | 00:04 |
| beuno | mrevell, but this has already been published: http://blog.launchpad.net/releases/launchpad-3-0-is-here-new-ui-and-more | 00:04 |
| beuno | but the links to teh interviews haven't | 00:05 |
| mrevell | beuno: Then that's me getting confused by which timezone the blog server is running on :) Being as we're supposed to be released shortly I'll bring forward the interview publication. Thanks for pointing that out. | 00:06 |
| beuno | mrevell, thank you | 00:06 |
| beuno | and | 00:06 |
| beuno | go to bed :) | 00:06 |
| beuno | I'm in an Ubuntu board meeting | 00:06 |
| beuno | that's my excuse | 00:06 |
| mrevell | beuno: heh :) You don't even have a different timezone to excuse you :) | 00:07 |
| wgrant | mrevell: Typo in the first post. | 00:08 |
| wgrant | s/weere/were/ | 00:08 |
| mrevell | wgrant: thanks, fixed | 00:09 |
| mrevell | I'm going to lie down for a while, night all | 00:10 |
| wgrant | Night mrevell. | 00:10 |
| === jamalta-afk is now known as jamalta | ||
| wgrant | So that's what the Technical Architect does. What does the Project Strategist do? | 00:27 |
| lifeless | you tell us:P | 00:28 |
| lifeless | what does jml do ? | 00:28 |
| === jamalta is now known as jamalta-afk | ||
| rockstar | thumper, do you happen to be packing, or is that what tomorrow is for? | 00:35 |
| wgrant | The front page now tells me that Ubuntu is related to MySQL. | 00:46 |
| thumper | rockstar: I pack on the day normally | 00:46 |
| rockstar | thumper, well, what I was exploring is whether or not you'll be around tomorrow or if you're leaving tomorrow. | 00:47 |
| thumper | rockstar: I leave in 2 days time | 00:47 |
| rockstar | thumper, okay, so we can chat tomorrow. | 00:48 |
| thumper | rockstar: yes we can | 00:48 |
| thumper | rockstar: how's your voice? | 00:48 |
| bac | rockstar: have you tried lp.net since it came back up? | 00:48 |
| thumper | is it back? | 00:48 |
| bac | sort of | 00:48 |
| rockstar | bac, just looking now. | 00:48 |
| bac | rockstar: disable redirection and see if you get styling | 00:48 |
| rockstar | I don't have tabs on the home page. | 00:49 |
| bac | i am not | 00:49 |
| thumper | gah | 00:49 |
| bac | yeah, no tabs. works on edge | 00:49 |
| rockstar | bac, it doesn't work on edge for me. | 00:49 |
| rockstar | Oh, well, now I do. | 00:49 |
| bac | rockstar: did you do a force reload/whatever | 00:49 |
| Ursinha | I used to hate those tabs | 00:49 |
| thumper | the coloured numbers have gone :( | 00:49 |
| thumper | edge looks good | 00:50 |
| wgrant | Woah, got a strange CSS breakage on bugs.launchpad.net. The watermark content was stacked vertically. | 00:50 |
| wgrant | Hm. Reproducable. | 00:51 |
| rockstar | Yeah, seems that production isn't doing CSS at all. | 00:51 |
| Ursinha | same here | 00:52 |
| wgrant | Argh, bugtask index regression for bugs with lots of tasks. | 00:52 |
| poolie | spm, there's nothing else in there aside from my mail headers | 01:03 |
| poolie | i can forward them | 01:03 |
| spm | poolie: please | 01:03 |
| poolie | as an rt, or just to you, or in a bug? | 01:04 |
| poolie | spm: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/276652/ | 01:05 |
| spm | paste is fine. :-) | 01:05 |
| maxb | From the live frontpage: "# | 01:06 |
| maxb | # Launchpad now open source! – 21 Jul 2009 | 01:06 |
| maxb | Translate a phrase once, have it show up in all your releases. | 01:06 |
| maxb | " | 01:06 |
| poolie | heh | 01:08 |
| maxb | blog integration fail :-/ | 01:08 |
| poolie | http://failblog.org/2008/07/22/translation-fail/ | 01:08 |
| poolie | Also: | 01:09 |
| poolie | > If you're ready, you can: Read the user guide | 01:09 |
| lifeless | classic | 01:09 |
| poolie | ooh, am i ready for that? | 01:09 |
| poolie | i don't know... | 01:09 |
| * thumper -> lunch | 01:11 | |
| wgrant | The layout of the featured project section is a bit misleading if the day's project is a project group. | 01:11 |
| poolie | mm, and they have watery descriptions | 01:18 |
| poolie | or the netrek one does | 01:18 |
| wgrant | MySQL's was much much worse. | 01:18 |
| wgrant | But that was only up for an hour. | 01:18 |
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| wgrant | The first blog post link is still broken. | 01:37 |
| wgrant | Though the article is available. | 01:37 |
| === jamalta-afk is now known as jamalta | ||
| * mwhudson lunches | 01:58 | |
| poolie | spm, i got another bounce from forster 8m ago | 03:39 |
| spm | poolie: yeah, still working on it | 03:39 |
| thumper | mwhudson: any reason why we don't allow git imports over https? | 03:48 |
| mwhudson | thumper: i didn't know git worked over https | 03:48 |
| mwhudson | thumper: it's probably just a matter of relaxing the Field? | 03:48 |
| * thumper nods | 03:49 | |
| thumper | mwhudson: do you have the bzr-git plugin locally? | 03:52 |
| mwhudson | thumper: sometimes | 03:52 |
| mwhudson | doesn't seem like i do right now | 03:53 |
| thumper | hmm, ok | 03:53 |
| spm | poolie: fyi. should all be good now. | 03:56 |
| wgrant | How does the freeze go after release? Does everything remain frozen until after the reroll? | 04:18 |
| wgrant | OOPS-1363EC162 | 04:24 |
| wgrant | I cannot file an Ubuntu bug on edge, although it works on production. | 04:25 |
| wgrant | Aha. | 04:25 |
| wgrant | I think I know why. | 04:25 |
| wgrant | Nrrrrg @ last-minute changes with incomplete tests. | 04:26 |
| wgrant | Is that OOPS complaining that a DistributionSourcePackage has no bug_supervisor? | 04:26 |
| thumper | wgrant: I'll look for you | 04:28 |
| thumper | wgrant: although may need to wait a few minutes as oopses are synced every 10 minutes | 04:28 |
| wgrant | Odd that it doesn't affect production, though. Does the production config not have malone.ubuntu_disable_filebug enabled? | 04:30 |
| poolie | thumper: it looks like the merges sent in email when new mps are created include conflict markers? | 04:40 |
| poolie | nm, mwh confirmed it's by design | 04:40 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: ForbiddenAttribute: ('bug_supervisor', <lp.registry.model.distributionsourcepackage.DistributionSourcePackage object at 0xbe86dd0>) | 04:41 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: so yes, you're basically right | 04:42 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Great. | 04:43 |
| wgrant | Thanks. | 04:43 |
| mwhudson | thumper: can you review https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mwhudson/launchpad/puller-proxy-argh/+merge/12327 ? | 06:01 |
| * thumper looks | 06:02 | |
| thumper | mwhudson: what about hosted branches? | 06:02 |
| mwhudson | thumper: we access them over a fancy local transport basically | 06:03 |
| thumper | but needs proxy or doesn't care? | 06:03 |
| mwhudson | isn't involved | 06:03 |
| mwhudson | so doesn't care | 06:03 |
| thumper | ok | 06:03 |
| * thumper waits for the diff | 06:04 | |
| thumper | mwhudson: I think I have a test to confirm recording the failure | 06:04 |
| thumper | but making schema right now | 06:04 |
| thumper | mwhudson: done | 06:09 |
| thumper | mwhudson: I asked for bac to rc it | 06:09 |
| thumper | I'm wondering how often the mail processor runs though | 06:12 |
| thumper | hmm, | 06:13 |
| thumper | it failed for some reason | 06:13 |
| thumper | :( | 06:13 |
| * thumper looks for the oops | 06:13 | |
| thumper | fuck!!!" | 06:13 |
| thumper | FFS | 06:13 |
| * thumper shakes his fists | 06:13 | |
| * thumper wants to curl up into a ball | 06:14 | |
| mwhudson | thumper: ? | 06:16 |
| thumper | mwhudson: when I tried to request bac using email https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1363CEMAIL1 | 06:20 |
| * thumper is making another branch | 06:20 | |
| thumper | mwhudson: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/job-fail/+merge/12328 | 06:21 |
| mwhudson | thumper: aaaaaaa | 06:21 |
| mwhudson | thumper: also, "huh" ? | 06:21 |
| thumper | mwhudson: when I request another reviewer, we send them email | 06:22 |
| thumper | mwhudson: which includes the diff | 06:22 |
| mwhudson | it would be rare to have missing permissions for the launchpad user | 06:22 |
| mwhudson | dbuser | 06:22 |
| mwhudson | thumper: yeah | 06:22 |
| thumper | mwhudson: the process mail script tried to send the mail | 06:22 |
| mwhudson | thumper: oh! | 06:22 |
| thumper | yeah | 06:22 |
| mwhudson | la-di-da | 06:22 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: btw my ami-from-scratch branch should now let you make an image based on an arbitrary one and run the tests | 06:27 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: for example ec2 test -m based-on:<some blank ami> | 06:27 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Very nice. | 06:28 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Although I certainly see why they need pre-population. | 06:28 |
| mwhudson | (i haven't tried a non-hardy base yet, but i don't know of a reason why it might not work) | 06:28 |
| wgrant | The checkout of RF is sloooow. | 06:28 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: The sources.list entries are hardcoded, for one thing. | 06:28 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: not any more :) | 06:28 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Ah, handy. | 06:28 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: Apart from that it works OK. | 06:29 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: cool | 06:29 |
| wgrant | The only other change I made that wasn't a workaround for a Karmic bug was adding '-o Apt::Install-Recommends=no' to the apt-get arguments to avoid downloading so much crap. | 06:29 |
| mwhudson | ah ok | 06:30 |
| mwhudson | that's probably a good idea | 06:32 |
| mwhudson | wgrant: could you do that with /etc/apt/preferences or some similar file too? | 06:32 |
| wgrant | mwhudson: You could. | 06:32 |
| wgrant | And I do normally. | 06:32 |
| wgrant | I forget the incantation. | 06:33 |
| * wgrant hunts. | 06:33 | |
| wgrant | APT::Install-Recommends "false"; | 06:34 |
| wgrant | In a file somewhere in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d | 06:34 |
| thumper | mwhudson: I have a test for the permission failure too | 06:43 |
| mwhudson | thumper: cool | 06:43 |
| mwhudson | thumper: i reviewed your first branch | 06:45 |
| thumper | mwhudson: ta | 06:46 |
| thumper | test just pushed up | 06:46 |
| thumper | the diff should update shortly \o/ | 06:46 |
| thumper | I confirmed it failed with the same error first | 06:46 |
| thumper | and then it passed after I made schema | 06:46 |
| thumper | mwhudson: and on that note, I'm EODing | 06:50 |
| thumper | I'll check later | 06:50 |
| thumper | mwhudson: thanks for the reviews | 06:50 |
| mwhudson | thumper: ok | 06:50 |
| * mwhudson eods | 07:16 | |
| noodles775 | Morning all. | 07:31 |
| spm | hey noodles775 | 07:36 |
| mwhudson | morning noodles775 | 07:40 |
| noodles775 | hi guys :) | 07:41 |
| spm | mwhudson: that eod thing.... didn't your folks tell you that telling lies is naughty? ;-) | 07:48 |
| mwhudson | spm: emma's away at the moment so i don't get told off for coming back to the computer in the evening :) | 07:48 |
| spm | haha | 07:48 |
| jml | so, what's up in #launchpad-dev? | 08:25 |
| lifeless | stuf | 08:25 |
| lifeless | f | 08:25 |
| lifeless | f | 08:25 |
| mwhudson | jml: i greet you as you greeted me this morning! | 08:27 |
| jml | mwhudson, with something to review? :) | 08:28 |
| mwhudson | jml: yes | 08:28 |
| jml | mwhudson, wonderful. | 08:28 |
| noodles775 | Thanks BjornT for updating the windmill infrastructure! (I'm just catching up on email). Being able to use the factory will be *very* helpful for soyuz windmill tests! | 08:39 |
| noodles775 | heh... gone. | 08:39 |
| noodles775 | Thanks BjornT for updating the windmill infrastructure! (I'm just catching up on email). Being able to use the factory will be *very* helpful for soyuz windmill tests! | 08:42 |
| === jtv1 is now known as jtv | ||
| BjornT | noodles775: np. it was actually quite fun :) | 08:43 |
| lifeless | ouch | 08:45 |
| lifeless | I just read the current rocketfuel-setup... | 08:46 |
| lifeless | its quite the little dpkg replacement not | 08:46 |
| lifeless | s/not/now/ | 08:46 |
| wgrant | Why? | 08:46 |
| lifeless | installing files into your system wide path | 08:47 |
| lifeless | [I'm not mentioning the appalling amount of system that make install does] | 08:47 |
| wgrant | So it does. | 08:48 |
| wgrant | install has always scared me a bit. | 08:48 |
| wgrant | I don't normally expect a make target to eat my Apache. | 08:48 |
| lifeless | indeed | 08:48 |
| mwhudson | apache :( | 08:51 |
| mwhudson | i have this cunning plan to take it away and use a twisted web server instead of apache | 08:51 |
| mwhudson | allenap: fancy a call in a bit? | 08:53 |
| allenap | mwhudson: Yeah, sure. 5 minutes okay? | 08:54 |
| mwhudson | allenap: a bit more than that would be better, actually | 08:55 |
| mwhudson | allenap: 35 mins? | 08:55 |
| allenap | mwhudson: Yeah, that works too. 0830 UTC then. | 08:55 |
| mwhudson | cool | 08:55 |
| jml | mwhudson, you mean a tornado server, right :P | 08:58 |
| mwhudson | jml: oh yes, rigth | 08:58 |
| jml | mwhudson, was my unannounced diff > 800 lines? | 09:01 |
| mwhudson | jml: i think it's 850 | 09:03 |
| mwhudson | jml: if you don't have time to review it, no worries | 09:03 |
| mwhudson | jml: it's not going to land until monday or so anyway, after all | 09:03 |
| mrevell | Morning | 09:11 |
| jml | I love the 3.0 UI, but it's making me realize how much more awesome Launchpad could be. | 09:19 |
| wgrant | There must be a better place for the registration slot. | 09:20 |
| wgrant | It currently sits a few pixels below the level of the tabs, which doesn't make sense and looks beyond strange. | 09:20 |
| mwhudson | jml: well a path between here and there is your job :) | 09:23 |
| jml | mwhudson, yes :) | 09:24 |
| jml | mwhudson, I was just looking at your merge proposal and realized that it fixed a bug that wgrant filed... way too many clicks for me to tell Launchpad at that | 09:24 |
| jml | s/at/about/ | 09:24 |
| wgrant | Which bug did I file? | 09:25 |
| mwhudson | public ec2 image one | 09:25 |
| jml | no! | 09:25 |
| mwhudson | no? | 09:25 |
| jml | "rocketfuel-setup is broken" | 09:25 |
| mwhudson | oh right | 09:25 |
| wgrant | Ah. Excellent. | 09:25 |
| jml | but I had to open the branch page, then open a bugs page, search for the bug to find the ID and then copy paste it into the branch page and then close both tabs and return to the MP | 09:26 |
| wgrant | The MP page normally shows the bugs for me. | 09:26 |
| wgrant | But I didn't see an email about that branch being linked. | 09:27 |
| wgrant | So mwhudson didn't tell bzr. | 09:27 |
| wgrant | So LP could not have known. | 09:27 |
| jml | wgrant, why can't I link a bug from the MP page? | 09:27 |
| jml | wgrant, why does the bug/branch link form not let me search for bugs? | 09:27 |
| jml | that's what I mean. | 09:27 |
| wgrant | Oh, right, I misread that you couldn't see from the MP page that it fixed the bug. | 09:27 |
| wgrant | Sorry. | 09:27 |
| wgrant | jml: So, what does the Project Strategist do? | 09:29 |
| spm | wgrant: "other duties as directed" ;-) | 09:30 |
| jml | wgrant, run around like a headless chook making macabrely distorted clucking noises | 09:31 |
| wgrant | jml: Ah, excellent. that is what the project has been missing all these years. | 09:31 |
| allenap | mwhudson: Ready when you are, but I'm in no rush. | 09:32 |
| jml | wgrant, more seriously, define our overall strategy, get people excited about it, define features, listen to stakeholders, review db patches. | 09:36 |
| mwhudson | allenap: now works for me | 09:36 |
| wgrant | jml: Aha. | 09:37 |
| === henninge_ is now known as henninge | ||
| wgrant | I've been wondering for a while whether LP branches are redistributable. Don't they contain a whole lot of proprietary, undistributable code without a license that we're not even meant to have? | 09:38 |
| jml | wgrant, answering such questions is not the responsibility of the Product Strategist. | 09:39 |
| * jml reviews patches | 09:39 | |
| mwhudson | allenap: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-foundations/+bug/422385 | 09:46 |
| mup | Bug #422385: Graph of test run times <build-infrastructure> <test-system> <Launchpad Foundations:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/422385> | 09:46 |
| henninge | sinzui: Hi! | 09:49 |
| sinzui | hi henninge | 09:49 |
| henninge | sinzui: I just reported bug 435712 and bug 435743 | 09:50 |
| mup | Bug #435712: Move registration and status informartion from heading slot to main and registering slot. <story-ui-3> <Launchpad Answers:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/435712> | 09:50 |
| mup | Bug #435743: Bread crumb missing for a single question <Launchpad Answers:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/435743> | 09:50 |
| sinzui | hmm | 09:50 |
| henninge | sinzui: is that planned to be fixed already or shall I prepare a branch? | 09:50 |
| sinzui | I wonder if that relates to the FAQ bug I reported two weeks ago | 09:51 |
| henninge | sinzui: well, that title is borked, too. | 09:51 |
| sinzui | henninge: rockstar is handling Answers. If you see an opportunity to fix it please do | 09:52 |
| henninge | Launchpad itself FAQ #44: "Is it possible to link a project to packages in a PPA?" | 09:52 |
| henninge | sinzui: OK, just wanted to avoid doubled work. | 09:52 |
| sinzui | henninge: I report that there are no titles on faqs | 09:52 |
| henninge | sinzui: there is now but it's too verbose. | 09:52 |
| henninge | sinzui: I'll just update the bug description | 09:53 |
| bigjools | wgrant: yo | 09:55 |
| sinzui | henninge: They FAQ title issue may be harder. I talked to rockstar about this and we discovered that FAQ does not have a view, the ZCML is generating a view for the template and IFAQ. If making a view with a page_title is hard, consider it out of scope. | 09:56 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Hi. You want my priorities? | 09:56 |
| bigjools | wgrant: how did you guess | 09:56 |
| henninge | sinzui: OK, I just updated the bug for now. | 09:56 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Less than 30 seconds before you called I decided I should start collating them. | 09:57 |
| henninge | bac: do I submit 3.0 UI fixes to db-devel to be included in the 2nd roll-out? | 09:57 |
| bigjools | wgrant: the deadline expired already! But since you're so great I will make an exception. | 09:57 |
| wgrant | bigjools: I'm not sure I can give any valid data. That's why I've not responded. | 09:58 |
| sinzui | wgrant: I would like your priorities for Registry, If you can find time to think about it, I would appreciate it. | 09:58 |
| wgrant | bigjools: The only real wish I had was from an archive admin, and that is to make the queue page suck less. | 09:59 |
| wgrant | I cannot give any more on behalf of MOTU. | 09:59 |
| bigjools | wgrant: yeah, that page is major suck. Any insights into how to make it better are gratefully received | 10:00 |
| wgrant | bigjools: Well, there are a couple of people doing archive admin without shell access now, so it might be possible to get input. | 10:00 |
| bigjools | wgrant: understanding the MOTU workflow would be a good start | 10:00 |
| === henninge is now known as henninge-brb | ||
| wgrant | sinzui: Why does MOTU have input for Registry? | 10:01 |
| sinzui | wgrant: Because Registry owns distro, distroseries, distrosourcepackages, sourcepackages. | 10:03 |
| sinzui | wgrant: maybe I do not need your help with these, but I think you may have insights into how we can improve the workflow for linking packages to upstream, and ensuring the information and actions use need on those pages are present. | 10:04 |
| wgrant | sinzui: Ah, I completely forgot that somebody owned packagings. They haven't been touched in years. | 10:05 |
| wgrant | Anyway, fooding. | 10:05 |
| === henninge-brb is now known as henninge | ||
| deryck | Morning, all. | 10:56 |
| noodles775 | hiya deryck | 10:56 |
| wgrant | deryck: Morning. Sorry for not getting priorities to you on time, but I do now have one. | 10:58 |
| wgrant | Version tracking. | 10:58 |
| deryck | wgrant, hi. no worries. can you explain a bit what you mean? | 10:59 |
| wgrant | deryck: At the moment there's no way to tell in which version of a package or project a bug is present. | 11:01 |
| wgrant | deryck: This really sucks. | 11:01 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: regarding the queue... although we didn't get to do it as part of 3-0, we started documenting a lot of the use-cases etc. at https://dev.launchpad.net/SoyuzDistroSeriesQueueImprovementsSpec (and the page linked from it). | 11:01 |
| wgrant | The Debian BTS allows people to track in which version a bug is present, and in which it was fixed. It sucks less. | 11:01 |
| === danilos-afk is now known as danilos | ||
| deryck | wgrant, ok, gotcha | 11:02 |
| jml | deryck, good morning. | 11:04 |
| jml | deryck, I feel I should draw your attention to https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/malone/+bug/435651 | 11:04 |
| mup | Bug #435651: Unable to edit bugs <Launchpad Bugs:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/435651> | 11:04 |
| wgrant | noodles775: I think I've seen that before. | 11:04 |
| wgrant | jml: ScottK was.... displeased, to say the least, about that. | 11:05 |
| deryck | jml, yes, that's a dupe of another bug. it's a high priority, in the really really high sense of the word high. :) | 11:05 |
| deryck | jml, that is coming up a lot. | 11:05 |
| jml | deryck, ok, that's good news :) | 11:06 |
| noodles775 | wgrant: yep - I got you to contribute to it back then - I just meant that it'd be good to continue documenting there (if people have ideas/issues) so we can address needs properly this time (I think there's been a few attempts). | 11:06 |
| jml | wgrant, I'd be very upset if it affected me. | 11:06 |
| deryck | jml, I had wanted to fix it this week, but just not enough hours in the day. | 11:06 |
| jml | deryck, understood. it's been an unusually busy week, to say the least. | 11:07 |
| deryck | indeed | 11:08 |
| jml | actually, just thinking about this whole mess makes me want to purchase a muffin. | 11:09 |
| jml | I think I'll do that. | 11:09 |
| lifeless | deryck: if its high priority, can I humbly suggest it's metadata be updated accordingly? | 11:19 |
| * lifeless finds the new location to look for dups | 11:20 | |
| lifeless | is there a bug that 'is a dup is not part of the main /data/ area for bugs ? | 11:20 |
| beuno | lifeless, no. It's a global action, so it went into the global actions menu | 11:21 |
| wgrant | It's not global. | 11:21 |
| lifeless | beuno: *setting* it is global. READING it is now. | 11:21 |
| wgrant | It's no more global than the status. | 11:21 |
| lifeless | s/now/not/ | 11:21 |
| beuno | ah | 11:22 |
| beuno | yes | 11:22 |
| beuno | so, deryck inherited a branch from me that fixes that | 11:22 |
| beuno | removes the bugtask table for dupes, with a big ass message telling you it's a dupe of X | 11:22 |
| beuno | with a link | 11:22 |
| beuno | as in "nothing to see here, move along" | 11:22 |
| lifeless | nice | 11:22 |
| lifeless | though perhaps having the table greyed out or something would be useful for folk trying to decide if the bug realyl isa dup | 11:23 |
| beuno | do yuo think the table gives you information about the bug? | 11:23 |
| beuno | rather than the description and comments? | 11:23 |
| jml | beuno, if it affects more than one project, it gives you info | 11:24 |
| beuno | a little bit, yes | 11:24 |
| jml | beuno, yes, a little. | 11:24 |
| beuno | that needs some thought then | 11:25 |
| jml | beuno, this is a tangent, but... | 11:25 |
| jml | beuno, what if we made /bugs/NNNN be the canonical_url of a bug | 11:25 |
| lifeless | beuno: /data/ gives me data. | 11:25 |
| lifeless | beuno: how much from that particular atom? I don't know; but I know its easier to ignore something greyed out than write an API call to read it when its hidden. | 11:26 |
| beuno | jml, I'm all for that | 11:27 |
| jml | beuno, what would the page look like for bugs with multiple tasks? | 11:28 |
| jml | (bearing in mind that dupe bugs won't show the task table) | 11:28 |
| beuno | jml, when there's a contextless URL? | 11:28 |
| jml | beuno, yeah. | 11:29 |
| beuno | yeah, it gets interesting | 11:29 |
| beuno | no logo, no links to other bugs... | 11:29 |
| beuno | (when you have multiple bugtasks) | 11:30 |
| beuno | we spent a lot of time talking about it in the BA bugs UI sprint | 11:30 |
| beuno | there are probably mockups of it... | 11:30 |
| beuno | let me find it... | 11:30 |
| beuno | (the quick answer is: other parts of Launchpad need changing) | 11:30 |
| deryck | lifeless, sorry was on call. it's ok now? This was just confusion over where dupe info is displayed? | 11:32 |
| beuno | ok, no mockups | 11:32 |
| jml | where are the docs describing the rules for commit messages on Launchpad? | 11:38 |
| lifeless | deryck: yah, you said 'bug X is high and I mean really high', but it claimed to be unconfirmed, new. | 11:41 |
| lifeless | deryck: then I saw that it was a dup. | 11:41 |
| deryck | lifeless, gotcha. | 11:42 |
| lifeless | \o/ just got a team joining mail that referenced launchpad.dev | 13:11 |
| james_w | lifeless: a bit like bug 357336? | 13:13 |
| mup | Bug #357336: "You have been added to <team>" mail contains invalid (API) link <api> <Launchpad Registry:Fix Released by bjornt> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/357336> | 13:13 |
| danilos | noodles775: hi, I am going to fix one small UI bug in translations, and I wonder if you have a minute to discuss a proper fix for https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/435346 (i.e. where should I include style="clear:both;" :) | 13:14 |
| mup | Bug #435346: 3.0 interface overflows sidebars and causes horizontal scrolling if you manually change browser font sizes <Launchpad itself:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/435346> | 13:14 |
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| danilos | jtv: ping | 13:16 |
| lifeless | james_w: sounds like it indeed | 13:16 |
| lifeless | bug 435834 | 13:22 |
| mup | Bug #435834: Translator comment needed for links <i18n> <Ubiquity Slideshow for Ubuntu:New> <ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu):New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/435834> | 13:22 |
| lifeless | bug 435843 | 13:22 |
| mup | Bug #435843: team welcome mail references launchpad.dev <Launchpad itself:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/435843> | 13:22 |
| lifeless | ^^^ | 13:22 |
| wgrant | Huh. It's actually hardcoded in the email snippet. | 13:24 |
| lifeless | wgrant: I assumed so when I saw it | 13:33 |
| lifeless | wgrant: as I couldn't see API's generating that particular URL :P | 13:33 |
| noodles775 | danilos: sure... looking now. | 13:35 |
| danilos | noodles775: thanks | 13:40 |
| mrevell | jml: ping | 13:42 |
| noodles775 | danilos: so adding clear:both to the #maincontent rule (style-3-0.css line 7) is probably a good place... | 13:44 |
| noodles775 | danilos: it fixes the issue for me in FF with mthaddon's setup. | 13:44 |
| noodles775 | danilos: can you test that in epiphany? | 13:44 |
| danilos | noodles775: sure | 13:46 |
| purserj | just out of curiosity, is there an admin panel type setup for launchpad? | 13:49 |
| jml | mrevell, hi | 14:01 |
| mrevell | hi jml, I pung you right? Now I need to remember why | 14:02 |
| jml | you did. | 14:02 |
| leonardr | james_w, gary told me you had a question about launchpadlib yesterday. do you still have the question? | 14:51 |
| james_w | about lazr.restful I guess actually | 14:51 |
| leonardr | james_w: ok, i can answer that as well | 14:52 |
| james_w | just trying to find the paste | 14:52 |
| james_w | leonardr: I filed bug 435309, and did some grepping and came up with http://paste.ubuntu.com/276442/ . I was wondering how far that was likely to be from working. | 14:54 |
| mup | Bug #435309: Please expose +delete on branches <Launchpad itself:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/435309> | 14:54 |
| james_w | I'm forging web app requests now, so it's not critical, but hey, if I've got a patch for a bug then I might as well submit it, eh? | 14:55 |
| leonardr | james_w: that diff is code that you wrote? | 14:55 |
| james_w | yeah | 14:55 |
| james_w | based on some code I found for milestones | 14:56 |
| leonardr | james_w: instead of export_write_operation, use export_destructor_operation | 14:56 |
| leonardr | and don't use export_as | 14:56 |
| leonardr | what you've done is publish a POST operation called 'delete'. the code you worked off of may have predated export_destructor_operation | 14:56 |
| EdwinGrubbs | sinzui: I'm not sure how to test your bug 407055 | 14:58 |
| mup | Bug #407055: NavigationMenu is still needed but not supported by base-layout <story-ui-3> <Launchpad Registry:Fix Released by sinzui> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/407055> | 14:58 |
| james_w | leonardr: like http://paste.ubuntu.com/277117/ ? | 15:01 |
| james_w | leonardr: break_references=False won't interfere with the check for free_parameters? That check is for explicit call_with that allows those parameter to be set in the API? | 15:02 |
| leonardr | james_w: give it a try, but if there's a default value for the parameter it shouldn't be counted | 15:03 |
| leonardr | if you actually want to expose break_references, you'll have to do it with POST | 15:03 |
| james_w | yeah | 15:03 |
| james_w | I'm a bit unsure about that anyway | 15:03 |
| james_w | It feels like you would want it to be True always, but it's obviously there for a reason | 15:04 |
| bac | hi mrevell | 15:05 |
| mrevell | hi bac! | 15:05 |
| bac | mrevell: could you add some thoughts on bug 435599, perhaps explain why we were using the non-human-readable blog URLs, comments on reachability w.r.t. embargo, etc? | 15:06 |
| mup | Bug #435599: Link to LP 3.0 blog post on front page is broken <Launchpad itself:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/435599> | 15:06 |
| * mrevell looks | 15:06 | |
| leonardr | james_w: talk to the code hosting team. you should be able to set the default-through-the-web-service to true | 15:07 |
| james_w | leonardr: I will do, thanks | 15:08 |
| abentley | james_w: break_references seems way too dangerous to be default. | 15:13 |
| james_w | abentley: is it possible to query the references? | 15:14 |
| abentley | james_w: Yes. (that's what we show on the confirm page) | 15:16 |
| abentley | james_w: See Branch.deletionRequirements. | 15:17 |
| james_w | ok | 15:17 |
| bac | hi cprov | 15:19 |
| cprov | bac: hey | 15:19 |
| bac | cprov: what is the status of def-row? could you update CRB? | 15:19 |
| cprov | bac: we will know in ~3h, code fix is r=noodles. Will do. | 15:20 |
| bac | cprov: so you just sent to ec2? | 15:20 |
| cprov | bac: no, I've cowboyed the patch in production, more effective ;) | 15:20 |
| * bac averts his eyes | 15:21 | |
| mrevell | deryck: I'm getting an internal server error when I try to change a bug's project in the web UI. Want me to pastebin? | 15:48 |
| deryck | mrevell, sure | 15:49 |
| deryck | mrevell, and from what to what are you trying to change? | 15:49 |
| matsubara | Ursinha, stub, Chex, gary_poster, rockstar, bigjools, henninge, sinzui, allenap: LP production meeting in 11 min at #launchpad-meeting | 15:50 |
| matsubara | make that 10 min :-) | 15:50 |
| mrevell | deryck: bug 432965 -- trying to change from launchpad to launchpad-doc -- https://pastebin.canonical.com/22552/ | 15:50 |
| mup | Bug #432965: help for creating a branch for a project links to +junk <launchpad-documentation> <Launchpad Documentation:New for matthew.revell> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/432965> | 15:50 |
| deryck | hmmm | 15:54 |
| deryck | mrevell, so the change did take for the bug, right? | 15:54 |
| mrevell | deryck: not AFAIK. I've tried twice and both times got that internal server error in a red pop-up | 15:55 |
| mrevell | deryck: Adding a comment work fine btw | 15:55 |
| deryck | mrevell, for this bug -- https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-documentation/+bug/432965 ? | 15:56 |
| mup | Bug #432965: help for creating a branch for a project links to +junk <launchpad-documentation> <Launchpad Documentation:New for matthew.revell> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/432965> | 15:56 |
| sinzui | EdwinGrubbs: can you attend the Launchpad production meeting for me in #launchpad-meeting in 4 minutes. I am sprinting. | 15:56 |
| EdwinGrubbs | sinzui: ok | 15:56 |
| EdwinGrubbs | sinzui: is there any info I need to relay? | 15:57 |
| mrevell | deryck: Oh, okay, so the change did take but it didn't show on the page, instead I got the ISE | 15:57 |
| deryck | mrevell, this was via AJAX the first time? Maybe the UI failed to update, but the change happened, which led to the error you're seeing now. | 15:58 |
| mrevell | deryck: Oh weird, right. Yeah, both times via Ajax | 15:59 |
| deryck | mrevell, I've made notes and will watch; if this happens again, we can file a bug. | 16:00 |
| sinzui | EdwinGrubbs: Barry will be available to work on the Expat error in the next 3 working days. | 16:02 |
| rockstar | henninge, why did you change bug 430332 into a completely different bug? | 16:07 |
| mup | Bug #430332: FAQs have too verbose titles <Launchpad Answers:Triaged by rockstar> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/430332> | 16:07 |
| deryck | kfogel, tags auto complete from official tags only. | 16:08 |
| henninge | rockstar: let me try to remember ... | 16:08 |
| henninge | rockstar: because they have title now but the wrong ones? | 16:09 |
| henninge | rockstar: ok, maybe I should have filed a new bug | 16:09 |
| deryck | bac, ping | 16:09 |
| bac | hi deryck | 16:09 |
| henninge | rockstar: and may, just thinking, I am talking about page headings and you may be talking about the page title? | 16:09 |
| rockstar | henninge, yes, could you please revert that bug and create a new one? | 16:09 |
| rockstar | henninge, I think that's also the case. | 16:09 |
| rockstar | Or reverse, really. | 16:10 |
| kfogel | deryck: AH. Thanks. I was confused, because (re bug #432965) I'd seen the "launchpad-documentation" tag on *other* bugs, and therefore expected it to complete on bug #432965 as well. | 16:10 |
| mup | Bug #432965: help for creating a branch for a project links to +junk <launchpad-documentation> <Launchpad Documentation:New for matthew.revell> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/432965> | 16:10 |
| mup | Bug #432965: help for creating a branch for a project links to +junk <launchpad-documentation> <Launchpad Documentation:New for matthew.revell> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/432965> | 16:10 |
| kfogel | mrevell: see above re "launchpad-documentation" tag | 16:10 |
| deryck | kfogel, yeah, this is part of the problems with official vs unofficial tags. only the most aggressive tagger/qa-er follows the distinction. | 16:12 |
| mrevell | kfogel: thanks, did you see my comment on the bug? | 16:12 |
| kfogel | deryck: well, the distinction is mysterious. Now, if adding an unofficial tag resulted in a confirmation step or something, the user might be aware of what they're doing. | 16:12 |
| kfogel | (confirmation steps are not evil under all circumstances, they're only evil when they're easily habituatable, which this wouldn't be -- for those who want to observe the official/unofficial distinction, anyway). | 16:13 |
| deryck | right | 16:13 |
| kfogel | mrevell: I did. | 16:13 |
| henninge | rockstar: reverted | 16:15 |
| henninge | rockstar: filed bug 435973 | 16:15 |
| mup | Bug #435973: FAQ page headings are too verbose <Launchpad Answers:New> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/435973> | 16:15 |
| rockstar | henninge, thanks. | 16:15 |
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| Fly-Man- | Simple question | 16:36 |
| Fly-Man- | Is the http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/launchpad/devel the branch that also holds the latest ui changes for 3.0 ? | 16:36 |
| beuno | Fly-Man-, yes | 16:48 |
| beuno | it holds what is running on Launchpad or newer | 16:49 |
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| bac | hi jml | 18:08 |
| jml | bac, hello | 18:08 |
| jml | it wasn't me. | 18:08 |
| bac | jml i am looking at https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpad/code-to-branches/+merge/12288 | 18:08 |
| bac | are noodles775's concerns still valid? is this branch a risk for integration failure? | 18:09 |
| jml | it's always going to be a risk. | 18:09 |
| jml | I haven't tested the existing proposed branches yet. | 18:09 |
| bac | i know there is always risk. based on his concerns is this one especially likely to cause problems? | 18:09 |
| jml | I'd have to look at the diffs of the other proposed branches to know for sure. | 18:10 |
| bac | jml: i want to approve it. can you run through ec2 again and submit before 0700UTC tomorrow? | 18:10 |
| jml | bac, sure. I can do that now. | 18:10 |
| bac | jml: wonderful. approved. remember to use the magic to go to db-devel | 18:11 |
| jml | bac, I shall. | 18:11 |
| bac | (i only keep repeating that b/c it's the kind of thing i'd flub up.) | 18:11 |
| jml | bac, actually, I'll use the other branch I made | 18:11 |
| jml | ec2 land https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpad/code-to-branches/+merge/12288 -s "Change the 'Code' tab to 'Branches'." | 18:12 |
| bac | oh, fancy | 18:12 |
| jml | yeah. | 18:12 |
| bac | jml how hard would it be for ec2 to mail a summary (just the test passed/failure list) to the MP? | 18:12 |
| jml | coming soon to a trunk near you. | 18:13 |
| jml | bac, only a little hard. | 18:13 |
| bac | i'd love to look at a MP and see the ec2 results | 18:13 |
| bac | jml-hard or mortal-hard? | 18:13 |
| jml | well, here's how I'd do it. | 18:13 |
| jml | I'd change ec2 to spit out subunit test results, rather than what it does now | 18:14 |
| jml | subunit basically being parseable test results. | 18:14 |
| jml | I'd then, I guess, add something to customize test output | 18:15 |
| bac | sounds good. perhaps i'll suggest it to our next build engineer | 18:16 |
| mrevell | See you in the morning people. | 18:16 |
| jml | I think all the pieces are there actually | 18:17 |
| jml | I hacked zope.testing to do subunit output a while ago | 18:17 |
| jml | getting ec2test to use it is a necessary step for parallelizing across multiple machines. | 18:17 |
| sinzui | bac: ping | 18:18 |
| bac | sinzui: hi | 18:18 |
| sinzui | bac: I want an RC to land this branch: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~sinzui/launchpad/sprint-is-physical | 18:20 |
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| sinzui | bac: This is db patch so that we can provide the feature to the UDS edge users quickly. Jorge needs this to do logistical planning for UDS | 18:21 |
| bac | sinzui: does it have db approval? | 18:22 |
| sinzui | bac: it has jml and stub's approval | 18:23 |
| bac | sinzui: is sabdfl's approval required? | 18:23 |
| sinzui | No. jml does schema approval | 18:23 |
| bac | oh, nice. | 18:24 |
| bac | sinzui: i'm going to have to defer until i can discuss it with flacoste | 18:25 |
| sinzui | bac: okay. thanks for considering this | 18:25 |
| bac | sinzui: if approved the PQM landing deadline will be tomorrow at 0700UTC. will that be a problem? | 18:25 |
| sinzui | no. | 18:25 |
| bac | sinzui: francis and i will talk about it but my gut feeling is it will not meet the criteria to be included. | 18:26 |
| sinzui | A successful UDS does not meet criteria | 18:26 |
| beuno | *tension* | 18:27 |
| bac | we've had many successful UDS meetings without this patch | 18:27 |
| sinzui | The number or remote users seems to be increasing, | 18:28 |
| bac | sinzui: i'm going to present it. i'm just saying based on the feedback and comments i got from kiko and flacoste for the review of the release i don't think it meets the criteria. | 18:28 |
| bac | sinzui: in prepartion will you create a MP for it? | 18:30 |
| bac | ah, i see it | 18:31 |
| sinzui | bac: it has onc | 18:31 |
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| flacoste | bac: i agree, i don't see a reason for including this in this release | 18:54 |
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| rockstar | Has anyone else been having problems getting their dev server running today? Mine seems to start up, but when I look up launchpad.dev, apache tells me the server isn't running. | 20:29 |
| Fly-Man- | rockstar: you installed it with the rocketfuel-setup ? | 20:29 |
| rockstar | Fly-Man-, no. This configuration worked yesterday. | 20:30 |
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| rockstar | salgado, ping | 20:39 |
| salgado | hi rockstar | 20:40 |
| rockstar | salgado, I wonder if you might help me debug why apache doesn't think my dev server is running. | 20:40 |
| salgado | rockstar, sure, I can try | 20:41 |
| rockstar | salgado, these lines are in my /var/log/apache2/error.log : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/277354/ | 20:42 |
| rockstar | But make run reports that DebugLayerHTTP is started and running on that port. | 20:42 |
| salgado | rockstar, what do you see on http://127.0.0.88:8085/ ? | 20:43 |
| rockstar | salgado, it just spins, never completes. | 20:44 |
| salgado | rockstar, can you try stopping apache and reloading that? | 20:44 |
| rockstar | salgado, ah, it looks like launchpad.dev:8085 doesn't work, but specifying IP does. | 20:45 |
| rockstar | salgado, I get an oops page, and lots of this in the logs: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/277357/ | 20:46 |
| salgado | rockstar, a real OOPS or just a not-found? | 20:46 |
| rockstar | salgado, ah, yeah, it's a 404 | 20:47 |
| salgado | rockstar, so, I guess it's fair to assume the webapp is running fine, so that we can start poking at apache? | 20:48 |
| rockstar | salgado, sure. | 20:49 |
| rockstar | I restarted the app, everything looks fine. | 20:49 |
| salgado | rockstar, you're not on karmic, right? | 20:49 |
| rockstar | salgado, yes, I am on Karmic. | 20:49 |
| * salgado goes look for recent apache uploads to karmic | 20:50 | |
| rockstar | salgado, ah, and I just did an upgrade so I could get bzr 2.0... that could be it. | 20:51 |
| salgado | rockstar, I guess restarting apache doesn't make things any better? | 20:51 |
| rockstar | salgado, nope. No errors or anything, it just doesn't want to proxy. | 20:52 |
| rockstar | salgado, got it. Something was screwed up with my hosts file... I haven't touched that since I first set it up. | 20:56 |
| salgado | wow, that's weird | 20:56 |
| rockstar | I guess something in the recent upgrade got more finicky with my /etc/hosts. | 20:57 |
| Fly-Man- | rockstar: You're running it locally ? | 20:58 |
| Fly-Man- | or on a external machine | 20:58 |
| Fly-Man- | the web browser | 20:58 |
| rockstar | Fly-Man-, this is my local dev instance. | 20:58 |
| Fly-Man- | rockstar: You have seen the explanation to get it to external ? | 20:59 |
| mwhudson | good morning | 21:24 |
| EdwinGrubbs | barry: your changes for bug 434761 are missing one of the portlets shown in the mockup attached to the bug. I assume this was intentional, but I wanted to make sure. | 21:24 |
| mup | Bug #434761: Make the home page pretty <story-ui-3> <Launchpad Registry:Fix Released by barry> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/434761> | 21:24 |
| barry | EdwinGrubbs: which one? | 21:27 |
| EdwinGrubbs | barry: the portlet in the top left corner of the mockup which lists the various sections of Launchpad and probably links to different pages in the tour or guide. | 21:34 |
| barry | EdwinGrubbs: that only displays for anonymous users | 21:35 |
| mwhudson | gmb: did you get ec2 demo working in the end? | 21:35 |
| EdwinGrubbs | barry: ok, I'll mark off the item in the test plan. | 21:35 |
| EdwinGrubbs | barry: can you also look at this question: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/80578 | 21:36 |
| barry | EdwinGrubbs: thanks | 21:36 |
| * barry looks | 21:36 | |
| jml | hey guys | 21:38 |
| jml | guess what | 21:38 |
| jml | I just did this: | 21:38 |
| jml | ../auto-land/utilities/ec2 land https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpad/code-to-branches/+merge/12288 --force | 21:38 |
| jml | and the script just did this: | 21:39 |
| jml | Merge proposal is not approved, landing anyway. | 21:39 |
| jml | ['../auto-land/utilities/ec2', 'test', '--headless', u'--email=jml@mumak.net', '-b', u'launchpad=db-devel', '-s', u"[release-critical=bac][r=michael.nelson][ui=beuno][bug=373341] Change 'Code' tab to 'Branches'.", 'bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jml/launchpad/code-to-branches'] | 21:39 |
| jml | (except for real, rather than just printing out a command list) | 21:39 |
| barry | EdwinGrubbs: question answered | 21:40 |
| jml | how cool is that! | 21:40 |
| barry | jml: that's pretty cool that you can land proposals that haven't been approved! <wink> | 21:41 |
| * Fly-Man- frowns | 21:41 | |
| jml | barry, look at the proposal :) | 21:41 |
| Fly-Man- | could not change directory to "/root/launchpad/lp-branches/devel" | 21:41 |
| * Fly-Man- looks at installation | 21:42 | |
| Fly-Man- | Something doesn't look good there | 21:42 |
| jml | barry, the status wasn't set to "approved", but all the votes are approvals. | 21:42 |
| barry | jml: when are we getting auto status changes? <wink> (guess i should bug thumper about that) | 21:42 |
| barry | jml: but yeah, cool! | 21:43 |
| gmb | mwhudson: I did it manually :). | 21:43 |
| gmb | jml: Sweet. | 21:43 |
| mwhudson | gmb: cool | 21:43 |
| maxb | "Uses Launchpad for Answers and Branches" hrm | 21:43 |
| mwhudson | gmb: sorry about breaking it | 21:43 |
| * maxb is unconvinced about this whole Code -> Branches thing | 21:44 | |
| gmb | mwhudson: That's okay, it gave me something to think about :) | 21:44 |
| * jml -> dinner | 21:46 | |
| rockstar | maxb, me too. | 21:49 |
| barry | me three | 21:49 |
| rockstar | However, thumper had a point when we were talking about the link to code browse. Sometimes the branch isn't code, it's documentation, or a paper, or images, or anything number of things. | 21:50 |
| rockstar | Instead of Branches, let's just say Stuff. | 21:51 |
| rockstar | "Uses Launchpad for Answers and Stuff" | 21:51 |
| maxb | heh | 21:51 |
| maxb | I guess "Uses Launchpad for Answers and Version Control" is a bit excessive and jargon-ish | 21:51 |
| maxb | I worry, however, about users asking "So where is the trunk?" | 21:52 |
| rockstar | s/Version Control/Bazaar/ | 21:52 |
| rockstar | maxb, that's what the development focus is for. | 21:52 |
| rockstar | maxb, although I've often thought we need to have a better way of illustrating that. | 21:53 |
| maxb | To people not indoctrinated into bzr terminology, branches == secondary | 21:53 |
| rockstar | maxb, right. | 21:53 |
| mwhudson | elastifox is being useless for me recently | 21:54 |
| rockstar | mwhudson, yes, me as well. | 21:54 |
| mwhudson | i don't think it can cope with the number amis that are currently out there at all well | 21:54 |
| mwhudson | oh, and the launch dialog is taller than my screen :) | 21:54 |
| thumper | hi hi | 22:04 |
| * thumper goes to look at email | 22:04 | |
| Fly-Man- | What was the command to stop the mailserver to keep sending emails to xmlrpc-private again ? | 22:09 |
| thumper | flacoste: I'm not sure the db permission for this has been updated: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thumper/launchpad/permission-fail/+merge/12329 | 22:10 |
| thumper | flacoste: although I can understand your reasoning | 22:10 |
| thumper | flacoste: so we should just get the permission updated | 22:10 |
| flacoste | thumper: yes, please! | 22:10 |
| flacoste | no DB patches in the roll-out please! | 22:10 |
| thumper | flacoste: I wasn't aware that the security.cfg was considered a db patch | 22:11 |
| thumper | flacoste: we certainly allow it onto devel | 22:11 |
| flacoste | well, we do, but it has no effects | 22:11 |
| flacoste | because we don't run the security.py script on udpate | 22:11 |
| flacoste | so we could land it, but it wouldn't have any effect, so we better not land it :-) | 22:11 |
| bac | mwhudson, thumper: you saw the email about the re-roll? | 22:12 |
| thumper | bac: not yet | 22:13 |
| thumper | bac: have now :) | 22:13 |
| bac | thumper: so you've got 10 hours... | 22:14 |
| bac | go! | 22:14 |
| mwhudson | bac: yes | 22:15 |
| mwhudson | bac: my r-c branch is in ec2 | 22:15 |
| bac | mwhudson: great. | 22:15 |
| bac | mwhudson: would you and thumper update CurrentRolloutBlockers when your branches land. there's a new section at the bottom | 22:16 |
| mwhudson | bac: ok | 22:16 |
| bac | thx | 22:16 |
| Fly-Man- | kfogel: *ping* | 22:17 |
| Fly-Man- | wth was that process that stopped the calling of the xmlrpc-private | 22:24 |
| Fly-Man- | Ahh, thank you | 22:25 |
| Fly-Man- | killall mailmanctl | 22:25 |
| Fly-Man- | barry: *ping* | 22:28 |
| Fly-Man- | flacoste: *ping* | 22:28 |
| flacoste | hi Fly-Man- | 22:28 |
| Fly-Man- | Both, I edited the https://dev.launchpad.net/Running | 22:29 |
| Fly-Man- | to include the Advanced running page that kfogel made | 22:29 |
| Fly-Man- | that has the advanced things to get the Launchpad running locally in development mode | 22:29 |
| flacoste | thanks! | 22:29 |
| Fly-Man- | and how to get branches to auto approve and imported | 22:29 |
| barry | Fly-Man-: hi | 22:31 |
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| Fly-Man- | barry: See comment on the Running page | 22:32 |
| Fly-Man- | I added the kfogel page that has more explaining on advanced use of the Launchpad locally | 22:32 |
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| barry | Fly-Man-: probably a better way is: | 22:33 |
| barry | lib/mailman/bin/mailmanctl stop | 22:33 |
| Fly-Man- | barry: I didn't write that page ;) | 22:34 |
| Fly-Man- | kfogel did :p | 22:34 |
| barry | Fly-Man-: :) i'll update it | 22:34 |
| Fly-Man- | But it does the same ;) | 22:34 |
| Fly-Man- | It stops the spam on my console ;) | 22:34 |
| barry | yeah, but maybe not so cleanly if you actually wanted to run mailman at some point ;) | 22:34 |
| Fly-Man- | Haha | 22:34 |
| Fly-Man- | true | 22:34 |
| barry | updated | 22:37 |
| barry | bac: CRB updated | 22:38 |
| bac | thanks | 22:38 |
| rockstar | bac, is PQM going to open tomorrow, barring any acts of God tonight? | 22:39 |
| mwhudson | hate week 4 | 22:51 |
| EdwinGrubbs | barry: are you familiar with the "Add Architecture" link on the distroseries +index page? | 22:57 |
| rockstar | mwhudson, is there a way for me to fire off an ec2 instance to run all the Javascript tests only? Like, a windmill specific image or something? | 22:58 |
| barry | EdwinGrubbs: no ;) | 22:59 |
| thumper | email done | 22:59 |
| rockstar | thumper, okay, you wanna chat? | 22:59 |
| mwhudson | rockstar: no, i don't think so | 22:59 |
| mwhudson | rockstar: file a bug? | 22:59 |
| * rockstar makes a sad face | 22:59 | |
| rockstar | mwhudson, launchpad-foundations? | 22:59 |
| mwhudson | rockstar: yeah, tag it build-infrastructure | 22:59 |
| rockstar | mwhudson, ack | 23:00 |
| EdwinGrubbs | flacoste: ping | 23:00 |
| mwhudson | rockstar: i can make an image for you i guess, it'll take an hour or so | 23:00 |
| flacoste | hi EdwinGrubbs | 23:00 |
| thumper | rockstar: just chasing an oops | 23:00 |
| thumper | rockstar: yes, shortly | 23:00 |
| rockstar | mwhudson, I wouldn't sweat it right now. I just thought it'd be nice to not have to fight with Karmic to get windmill running correctly. | 23:00 |
| EdwinGrubbs | flacoste: Are you familiar with the "Add architecture" link on the distroseries +index page? | 23:00 |
| mwhudson | rockstar: the only difference from the standard image is installing a bunch of extra software right? xfvb and firefox? | 23:00 |
| mwhudson | rockstar: yeah, it's a good idea :) | 23:00 |
| rockstar | mwhudson, you would know the differences better than I. | 23:01 |
| flacoste | EdwinGrubbs: not really | 23:03 |
| flacoste | EdwinGrubbs: that's a soyuz thing i think | 23:03 |
| flacoste | EdwinGrubbs: what's your question | 23:03 |
| EdwinGrubbs | flacoste: The "Add architecture" link is only displayed if the distroseries already has other architectures listed. This seems wrong, but it doesn't look like new behavior, so I don't know if ubuntu distroseries are created somehow differently. | 23:04 |
| flacoste | EdwinGrubbs: well, they have an initial set | 23:06 |
| flacoste | EdwinGrubbs: and that actually might be a proxy to not display this link on distro that don't use Soyuz | 23:06 |
| flacoste | i think distro only have arch if they are Soyuz-enabled | 23:07 |
| flacoste | but this seems to be an obfuscation and the check should be made clearer | 23:07 |
| al-maisan_ | EdwinGrubbs: I believe the creation of a distro series is somewhat of a manual process; once the series was created all the packages from the previous/stable series need to be cloned/copied for example.. | 23:08 |
| al-maisan_ | i.e. this is *not* a web UI work-flow :) | 23:09 |
| EdwinGrubbs | al-maisan_: If I create a new distroseries by hand with the "Add series" link, such as https://staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/foo then it doesn't show the "Add architecture" link. Are you saying that this won't affect real ubuntu developers, since they are doing it differently? | 23:11 |
| al-maisan_ | EdwinGrubbs: I guess that's right. | 23:16 |
| rockstar | thumper, https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+bug/426141 | 23:18 |
| mup | Bug #426141: "Link to a bug report" is temperamental <post-3-ui-cleanup> <ui> <Launchpad Bazaar Integration:Triaged> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/426141> | 23:18 |
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| sidnei | gary_poster: ping? | 23:34 |
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