[00:00] <rockstar> So, my name's Paul Hummer, I work on the Launchpad Code team.
[00:01] <rockstar> I haven't been very good at keeping track of everything I've done with Ubuntu, but I've been doing better recently.
[00:01] <rockstar> My wiki page is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PaulHummer
[00:01] <pleia2> rockstar: are you involved with the colorado loco team at all?
[00:02] <pleia2> sounds like your plan to work with local school districts would be a great project for the team
[00:02] <rockstar> Well, involved in that I'm on the mailing list.  I used to be around for the meetings in IRC, but the LoCo team hasn't been doing much recently.
[00:02] <rockstar> pleia2, yeah, there were a couple of people working with schools.  I just made some contacts last week at some bigger schools.
[00:03] <pleia2> I find that frequently a lot of teams just need an energetic member to get things going again :) think you'd be interested in suggesting this project to jumpstart things again over there?
[00:03] <rockstar> Sure, although I'm also a bit farther away from most of the team geographically.  I've thought about starting another LoCo group up in Northern Colorado,
[00:04] <pleia2> well, loco teams are divided up by state, so I'd recommend another regional segment of the same team
[00:04] <rockstar> I went to school about 15 minutes east of where I currently live, in a rural area.  I'm pretty convinced that getting Free Software into U.S. schools will start with the ones with terrible funding/football teams.
[00:05] <boredandblogging> lol
[00:05] <rockstar> pleia2, yeah, it's just been something in the back of my mind.
[00:05] <pleia2> but cool :) I think you might find that one you get things rocking in northern CO southern might be shamed into following ;)
[00:06] <rockstar> Yea, I've worked a lot with the local LUG here.  I even organized the last install fest.
[00:06] <pleia2> woohoo, lugs! :)
[00:06] <nixternal> hola
[00:06] <rockstar> Most the Ubuntu virgins that showed up there were older than 60.  It was crazy.
[00:07] <nhasian> wow 60 year old virgins?  that IS crazy
[00:08] <greg-g> I just wanted to make it known in the meeting log I am here and have been given the scrollback of rockstar's application in a PM.
[00:08] <Technoviking> I have to step out (dead server at work) but +1 from me for rockstar, great work in LP and Edubuntu!
[00:08] <pleia2> well, I've grilled you plenty about the loco team, but your other work in the community speaks for itself, well done rockstar! +1 for membership from me :)
[00:08] <nixternal> +1 from me on rockstar
[00:08] <greg-g> I also give a +1 to rockstar
[00:08] <boredandblogging> anyone who works on LP is +1 from me
[00:08] <nixternal> liar!
[00:09] <greg-g> thanks for your work, rockstar !
[00:09] <nhasian> rockstar, great job man congrats
[00:09] <greg-g> thats 5 +1s, welcome aboard!
[00:09] <pleia2> congrats rockstar, welcome :)
[00:10] <nixternal> congrats and welcome rockstar
[00:10] <rockstar> Thanks guys!
[00:11] <pleia2> lp has been read-only for the past hour, but I'll be adding everyone who was approved this evening to the members team as soon as I can
[00:11] <pleia2> thanks for coming everyone! congrats again to the new members :)
[00:11]  * beuno waves and leaves for bed, hoping that he wakes up to a read-write launchpad
[00:12] <nhasian> bye everyone
[00:12] <beuno> congrats to all the new ubuntees
[00:12] <greg-g> thanks everyone
[00:12] <DKcross> thanks!!
[00:12]  * beuno winks at rockstar 
[00:12] <greg-g> congrats to rockstar and the others who I missed, I'm sure you all deserved it! :)
[00:12] <DKcross> i cant believe!
[00:12] <DKcross> :)
[00:12]  * rockstar waves at beuno 
[00:59] <bodhi_zazen> 'lo forumsmatthew =)
[00:59] <forumsmatthew> greetings
[01:01] <bodhi_zazen> Technoviking: poke ;)
[01:01] <bodhi_zazen> anyone else here for the FC meeting ?
[01:02] <forumsmatthew> I don't see u-g, bapoumba, or kiwi online, but it's early. I just gave jdong a ping
[01:03] <bodhi_zazen> kk, I cleaned out the schedule earlier so it looks light :twisted:
[01:04] <forumsmatthew> The first item is more of an FYI/announcement thing, so even if the others aren't here, I think we can put it on the record.
[01:05] <forumsmatthew> The second is something we have discussed on the mailing list and can finalize, I think.
[01:05] <forumsmatthew> let's give people a little more time, though
[01:06] <DKcross> i have questions..:|
[01:06] <DKcross> well... now that I'm ubuntu member before the meet.. what is the next step?
[01:07] <bodhi_zazen> Sec DKcross , we will give you a chance =)
[01:07] <DKcross> thanks
[01:10] <bodhi_zazen> #startmeeting
[01:10] <MootBot> Meeting started at 19:10. The chair is bodhi_zazen.
[01:10] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[01:10] <bodhi_zazen> Let's start then
[01:11] <bodhi_zazen> [LINK]https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda
[01:11] <MootBot> LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ForumCouncilAgenda
[01:11] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] UA Team
[01:11] <MootBot> New Topic:  UA Team
[01:11] <bodhi_zazen> This is primarily an update, this has been discussed on the mailing list as well
[01:12] <bodhi_zazen> ajmorris has been busy with school and did not officially "step down" as team lead, but has not been overly active either
[01:12] <bodhi_zazen> Hellow and PT are willing to help, but PT seems busy, so that leaves Hellow for now
[01:12] <bodhi_zazen> Hellow has been doing great
[01:13] <bodhi_zazen> Comments , questions ?
[01:13] <forumsmatthew> I'm glad to see we have good people involved
[01:13] <bodhi_zazen> DKCross are you Lord Xeb ?
[01:13] <forumsmatthew> thanks to PT and Hello
[01:13] <forumsmatthew> Hellow
[01:13] <DKcross> bodhi_zazen,  what?
[01:13] <bodhi_zazen> Next topic ?
[01:14] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC] Lord Xeb
[01:14] <MootBot> New Topic:  Lord Xeb
[01:14] <forumsmatthew> Okay, since it seems Lord Xeb is not here...
[01:14] <DKcross> :o
[01:14] <forumsmatthew> we have discussed this on the mailing list in depth
[01:14] <forumsmatthew> we have no intention of allowing him to return
[01:14] <forumsmatthew> the account is not going to be "unbanned"
[01:15] <bodhi_zazen> +1, that has been the general consensus
[01:15] <forumsmatthew> now that we have this in the official record, we can probably move on, unless there is another comment specific to that issue
[01:15] <bodhi_zazen> Any further comments ?
[01:15] <bodhi_zazen> Any further questions
[01:15] <forumsmatthew> I have something short to add at the end of the meeting. It will be quick
[01:16] <bodhi_zazen> OK
[01:16] <forumsmatthew> let's move on to see what DKcross wanted to say/ask
[01:16] <bodhi_zazen> DKcross: did you have a question ?
[01:17] <DKcross> no, no man
[01:17] <DKcross> thanks
[01:17] <bodhi_zazen> OK, forumsmatthew :
[01:17] <bodhi_zazen> [TOPIC]meetings, irc, and the FC
[01:17] <MootBot> New Topic: meetings, irc, and the FC
[01:17] <forumsmatthew> almost all of the FC members work jobs that do not permit access to IRC
[01:17] <forumsmatthew> we have a lot of trouble finding times when all of us are both awake and at home
[01:18] <bodhi_zazen> +1
[01:18] <forumsmatthew> we are talking and looking for other options for public, regular meetings
[01:18] <bodhi_zazen> There was a general consensus to 22:00:00 UTC time
[01:18] <forumsmatthew> yeah, we're going to see how that works for a while
[01:18] <bodhi_zazen> since not many are here, mailing list ?
[01:18] <forumsmatthew> I have to leave work early to make that time
[01:18] <forumsmatthew> anyway, I just want it on the record...
[01:19] <forumsmatthew> that we are aware this is a problem
[01:19] <forumsmatthew> and we are looking for a solution
[01:19] <forumsmatthew> that's all I had to say on that
[01:19] <bodhi_zazen> IRC meeting are a commitment especially as we are not all in the same time zone
[01:20] <forumsmatthew> we haven't yet found anything better, but it would be nice
[01:20] <bodhi_zazen> mailing list seems better, at least if an agenda item is discussed and people can express their votes on the issue if needed
[01:20] <forumsmatthew> that works for just about everything and I like that most business has moved to the mailing list
[01:20] <bodhi_zazen> I am frequently on IRC and do not mind passing information IRC <-> mailing list
[01:20] <forumsmatthew> let's see where things go next
[01:21] <bodhi_zazen> I think it is good to hold sessions where we can listen to the community, but IRC is not the only option, we can , well, forums =)
[01:21] <bodhi_zazen> Any other topics ?
[01:22] <bodhi_zazen> Otherwise it has been 20 minutes and I think we can end the meeting
[01:22] <forumsmatthew> +1
[01:22] <forumsmatthew> bye, everyone!
[01:22] <bodhi_zazen> #endmeeting
[01:22] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 19:22.
[18:00] <dholbach> mdeslaur, mterry, jpds, soren, nixternal: around?
[18:00] <mterry> dholbach, hihi
[18:00] <mdeslaur> dholbach: yes
[18:00] <nixternal> hola
[18:00] <jpds> Hello.
[18:00] <dholbach> I talked to jpds a few minutes ago, so let's kick off the meeting :)
[18:00] <dholbach> #startmeeting
[18:00] <MootBot> Meeting started at 12:00. The chair is dholbach.
[18:00] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[18:00] <dholbach> We have an agenda: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Council/Meeting
[18:01] <dholbach> Fabrice notified us that he might not be able to make it, or later, so we'll do mdeslaur and mterry first
[18:01] <mterry> ok
[18:01] <dholbach> if this doesn't work out for Fabrice, we can still have a chat with him tomorrow and try to organise an impromptu meeting
[18:01] <dholbach> [TOPIC] Marc Deslauriers' MOTU application
[18:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  Marc Deslauriers' MOTU application
[18:02] <dholbach> hey mdeslaur - how are you doing?
[18:02] <mdeslaur> dholbach: great!
[18:02] <dholbach> cool - that's what we like to hear :)
[18:02] <mdeslaur> so, my application is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarcDeslauriers/MOTUapplication
[18:02] <dholbach> great
[18:03] <dholbach> mdeslaur: when you started participating in Ubuntu development what did you find the toughest challenge?
[18:03] <mdeslaur> Coming from an rpm background, I think the toughest challenge was learning debian packaging
[18:04]  * nixternal kicks the wiki
[18:04] <mdeslaur> There's a _bunch_ of different patch systems I had to wrap my head around
[18:04] <mdeslaur> but once I figured the main ones out, the rest wasn't bad
[18:04] <geser> how is rpm packaging compared to debian packaging?
[18:04] <dholbach> mdeslaur: mvo and I were talking about patch systems and creating a wrapper around all of them, so you just have to master one command... do you think that'd help?
[18:04] <nixternal> mdeslaur: I agree with you 100%...though I went from Debian to RPM recently, and it amazes how easy it is to package an RPM package...not so much easy, as it is less time consuming
[18:05] <nixternal> though, because it is easier/less time consuming...man it can create some headaches really quick
[18:05] <mdeslaur> well, packaging RPMs is pretty simple, as everyone pretty much does it the same way
[18:06] <mdeslaur> but, on the other hand, RPMs are very simple, so as soon as you want to do something a little more advanced, it gets complicated
[18:06] <dholbach> mdeslaur: what apart from patch systems do you think might be unnecessarily complicated or do you think there's a good justification for everything?
[18:06] <nixternal> one of the things I see in your application is working on getting AppArmor support intgrated into apache...what is the future off apparmor? is it sticking around or is it going to get replaced?
[18:07] <mdeslaur> dholbach: i think having a bunch of different build systems is slightly complicated for a beginner also
[18:07] <dholbach> nixternal: http://lwn.net/Articles/353837/ :)
[18:07] <mdeslaur> nixternal: apparmor just got submitted upstream
[18:07] <mdeslaur> nixternal: it's the MAC system that fits well with Ubuntu ideals
[18:08] <nixternal> guess I should start reading again :)
[18:08] <dholbach> mdeslaur: so you think the variety of options to get the job done is the biggest problem?
[18:09] <mdeslaur> dholbach: to answer you earlier question, the what-patch command, and having XXX-edit-patch for every patch system is cool
[18:09] <dholbach> mdeslaur: I was more talking about one edit-patch command that does all the work for you :)
[18:10] <mdeslaur> dholbach: yeah, that would be great
[18:10] <nixternal> mdeslaur: why did you apply for MOTU instead of just going for core-dev?
[18:10] <dholbach> mdeslaur: so... are you up for hacking on it on the next sprint? :)
[18:11] <mdeslaur> nixternal: the process seems to be going through MOTU first, and being a Canonical employee, I didn't want to appear to be getting favors
[18:11] <mdeslaur> dholbach: sure :)
[18:11] <dholbach> mdeslaur: cool :-)
[18:12] <mdeslaur> nixternal: does that make sense?
[18:12] <nixternal> hrmm, we really need to fix something if a lot of people think MOTU is the first step...
[18:12]  * mterry thinks that too
[18:12] <jpds> nixternal: Soon it will all be the same.
[18:12] <nixternal> mdeslaur: as a Canonical employee you wouldn't get any favors, I automatically vote -1 for you all :p
[18:12] <mdeslaur> nixternal: oh, cool :)
[18:12] <nixternal> haha
[18:13] <dholbach> mdeslaur: nixternal was saying about some applicants that hadn't paid him
[18:13] <dholbach> .... anyway :)
[18:13] <nixternal> ya, it seems a vast majority of the packages you worked on are in main with just a few in universe/multiverse
[18:13] <mdeslaur> nixternal: I do a lot of security update sponsoring for universe
[18:14] <mdeslaur> nixternal: and, do some security updates for universe in my spare time on packages I use
[18:14] <nixternal> mdeslaur: right, and if you went for core-dev and got it, you have access everywhere, which is where I think you should have went to be honest, but it is cool if you want to start here :)
[18:14] <mdeslaur> nixternal: I also fixed a bunch of issues in gnome-ppp the other day
[18:14] <dholbach> geser, jpds: more questions?
[18:14] <mdeslaur> nixternal: I plan on becoming core-dev
[18:14] <nixternal> not bashing you for going MOTU first :)
[18:14] <jpds> None from me.
[18:14] <nixternal> I am good on questions, and will have 1 recommendation when this is complete
[18:15] <geser> dholbach: no
[18:15] <dholbach> [VOTE] Shall Marc Deslauriers become MOTU?
[18:15] <MootBot> Please vote on:  Shall Marc Deslauriers become MOTU?.
[18:15] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[18:15] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[18:15] <nixternal> +1
[18:15] <MootBot> +1 received from nixternal. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[18:15] <dholbach> +1
[18:15] <MootBot> +1 received from dholbach. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[18:15] <jpds> +1
[18:15] <MootBot> +1 received from jpds. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[18:15] <geser> +1
[18:15] <MootBot> +1 received from geser. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[18:15] <dholbach> [endvote]
[18:15] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4
[18:15] <dholbach> congratulations mdeslaur!
[18:15] <nixternal> mdeslaur: congrats and welcome!
[18:15] <mdeslaur> thanks everyone :)
[18:15] <jpds> mdeslaur: congrats!
[18:15] <nixternal> mdeslaur: my 1 recommendation...NOW APPLY FOR CORE DEV! :)
[18:15] <fabrice_sp> congrats mdeslaur :-)
[18:16] <dholbach> hahaha
[18:16] <mdeslaur> nixternal: yes!
[18:16] <mterry> yay
[18:16] <dholbach> fabrice_sp turned up, so we'll keep in order of the agenda
[18:16]  * nixternal now has someone else new to pick on for KDE security stuff... kees will be happy
[18:16] <fabrice_sp> I sorted some traffic jam :-)
[18:16] <dholbach> [TOPIC] Fabrice Coutadeur's MOTU application
[18:16] <MootBot> New Topic:  Fabrice Coutadeur's MOTU application
[18:16] <dholbach> hey fabrice_sp - how are you doing?
[18:17] <fabrice_sp> I'm good. thank you :-) A bit nerviuos, I have to say...
[18:17] <fabrice_sp> (I think you'll a lot of typos today :-) )
[18:17] <dholbach> no need to do... apart from nixternal nobody of us bites
[18:17] <fabrice_sp> lol
[18:17] <geser> lucky for mterry as else we would need asking him questions till fabrice_sp appears :)
[18:17] <nixternal> I don't bite, but I do punch :D
[18:17]  * mterry will happily wait to be grilled
[18:18] <dholbach> fabrice_sp: good work on the FTBFS front - I had a look at a few patches of yours this morning
[18:18] <fabrice_sp> I saw that :-)
[18:18] <dholbach> jpds, geser, nixternal: questions
[18:18] <nixternal> working on that now :)
[18:18] <fabrice_sp> I will submit the missing one to Debian just after this meeting
[18:19]  * nixternal notes the new LP interface is confusing as hell
[18:19]  * fabrice_sp noted that this morning
[18:19] <dholbach> fabrice_sp: you're interested in video editing... how are things looking there in Ubuntu?
[18:19] <dholbach> and do you have any plans for lucid with that?
[18:20] <jpds> fabrice_sp: Other than changelogs do you seriously have no areas to improve?
[18:20] <fabrice_sp> Well better now that there are some packages in Debian, but there is still a lot of packages only in Debian Multimedia that needs some care :-)
[18:20] <fabrice_sp> For Lucid, I really really want to get the latest Openmovieeditor, that I hosted in my ppa since beginning of the year
[18:21] <dholbach> fabrice_sp: what was the blocker to get it in Ubuntu?
[18:21] <fabrice_sp> I assume you remember the 'gmerlin-avdecoder' bug :-)
[18:21] <dholbach> beginning of the year and not in Ubuntu sounds like something went wrong
[18:21] <dholbach> yes, I remember bits of it
[18:21] <fabrice_sp> well, this missing package
[18:21] <nixternal> good work on the old aRts removal stuff btw
[18:21] <fabrice_sp> since my sync request and when you had a look at it, the package became non buildable in karmic
[18:22] <fabrice_sp> nixternal, thanks :-) Even if I'm not a K guy, I sometine fix some K packages :-)
[18:22] <dholbach> ah ok... I remember... do you think there's a way to get it fixed?
[18:22] <nixternal> fabrice_sp: since none of your endorsements say there are any areas to improve on with yourself, do you think you have some areas to improve on at all, and if so what are they?
[18:22] <fabrice_sp> dholbach, we just need to sync some packages from Debian and get this one from Debian multimedia
[18:22] <nixternal> fabrice_sp: that is always good in my books, people like dholbach just walk past them and assign me to them... or is that jcastro that does that :D
[18:23] <dholbach> what? :)
[18:23] <fabrice_sp> nixternal, I really need to improve the link with Debian. It's still somewhat obscure to me how Debian packages and maintainer really work
[18:24] <fabrice_sp> technical knowledge about building systems (discovered dbs some days ago :-) )
[18:24] <nixternal> groovy!
[18:24] <dholbach> jpds, geser: more questions?
[18:24] <nixternal> I am done
[18:25] <jpds> Likewise.
[18:25] <dholbach> [VOTE] Shall Fabrice Coutadeur become MOTU?
[18:25] <MootBot> Please vote on:  Shall Fabrice Coutadeur become MOTU?.
[18:25] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[18:25] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[18:25] <dholbach> +1
[18:25] <MootBot> +1 received from dholbach. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[18:25] <nixternal> +1
[18:25] <MootBot> +1 received from nixternal. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[18:25] <geser> +1
[18:25] <MootBot> +1 received from geser. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[18:25] <jpds> +1
[18:25] <MootBot> +1 received from jpds. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[18:25] <dholbach> [endvote]
[18:25] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4
[18:25] <nixternal> fabrice_sp: congrats and welcome!
[18:26] <dholbach> fabrice_sp: congratulations
[18:26] <jpds> fabrice_sp: Congrats!
[18:26] <fabrice_sp> thanks! That was quick :-)
[18:26] <dholbach> It was time that you applied already :-)))))
[18:26] <fabrice_sp> lol
[18:26] <fabrice_sp> dholbach, thanks for your support: you sponsored almost 80% of my debdiff :-)
[18:26] <dholbach> that might well be
[18:26] <dholbach> now I can sleep one hour longer every morning ;-)
[18:26] <dholbach> [TOPIC] Michael Terry's MOTU application
[18:26] <MootBot> New Topic:  Michael Terry's MOTU application
[18:26] <fabrice_sp> lol
[18:27] <mterry> heyo
[18:27] <dholbach> mterry: hey Michael - how's life? :)
[18:27] <mterry> Good.  I'm in Portland for the Plumbers conference
[18:27] <dholbach> ah cool
[18:27] <nixternal> mterry: interesting, you work for OEM services, yet cody-somerville hasn't chimed in on your application, time we do something about that cody character :p
[18:28] <geser> dholbach: I guess will find a new contributor for you soon to wake you up early :)
[18:28] <mterry> nixternal, yeah, I dunno.  When I applied for Membership, he abstained because he works with me.  Might be a conflict of interest thing
[18:28] <dholbach> mterry: how's deja-dup coming on? when is it ready for the default install?
[18:28] <nixternal> oh ya, he does that all of the time, then I try to smack it into him to give me the goods :D
[18:28] <mterry> dholbach, pfft, today!  :)
[18:28] <mterry> dholbach, it's good.  Will release a new version next week
[18:29] <mterry> Always looking for contributors...
[18:29] <dholbach> mterry: so if I'll try to let it keep a few files and folders in sync for me on a couple of machines that'll work easily? :)
[18:29] <nixternal> mterry: well the same question for you, since your endorsements don't list any things you need to work on, just how perfect are you? :p  what areas do you think you can improve on?
[18:29] <mterry> dholbach, sync'ing isn't really it's forte.  More for disaster recovery
[18:30] <dholbach> ah ok
[18:30] <nixternal> what happened to that nip2 upload on June 15th that didn't build on a darn thing?
[18:30] <mterry> nixternal, well, there's bits of process that I tend to forget like running update-maintainer.  And like I mention, I think I'm a bit hasty at times.  Need to slow down and double-verify my patches.  :)
[18:30] <nixternal> you and I both on update-maintainer
[18:30] <nixternal> at least debuild tells ya, "HEY! FIX IT NOW!"
[18:30]  * mterry tries to remember the nip2 debacle.
[18:31] <mterry> nixternal, there was at least one case of me forgetting to actually build a package and it ftbfs (totally my fault).  And there was once case of it becoming unbuildable between my patch and when it got pushed
[18:31] <mterry> So I don't remember which nip2 is
[18:32] <nixternal> hehe, tis ok
[18:32] <mterry> I was doing a lot of merges at the time.  They all kind of merged together in my memory.  (hah!)
[18:32] <nixternal> i have built stuff locally just fine, only to upload it and watch it blow up
[18:32] <nixternal> or I was in the wrong Konsole tab and committed something that wasn't supposed to be committed
[18:33] <dholbach> for those who are interested in fixing it later on: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/29642970/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-i386.nip2_7.18.1-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz :-)
[18:33] <mterry> Ahah.
[18:33] <mterry> This is the one I forgot to build
[18:33] <mterry> And I've looked into fixing it.
[18:33] <nixternal> hehe
[18:33] <mterry> Not an easy task.  it uses lots of 'private' GTK+ struct members that are now gone
[18:34] <mterry> Lots of code changes.
[18:34] <dholbach> sounds like something that upstream should learn about
[18:34] <mterry> I believe I filed an upstream bug
[18:34] <dholbach> great
[18:34] <dholbach> do you have any more specific plans than getting deja-dup into main? :)
[18:34] <mterry> I don't think they have a bug tracker, hopefully I emailed that out
[18:34] <nixternal> no more questions from me...my dogs are clawing at my legs to go outside :p
[18:35] <mterry> hehe.  I hope to sponsor lots of stuff.  Long sponsorship queues are bad for both sides
[18:35] <dholbach> ok... that makes me happy - no more questions from me :)
[18:35] <dholbach> jpds, geser?
[18:35] <jpds> None.
[18:36] <nixternal> -1
[18:36] <nixternal> ;p
[18:36] <geser> mterry: how did you manage to get member of ~ubuntu-mir before ~motu?
[18:36] <mterry> geser, that's an excellent question
[18:37] <nixternal> lol, good eye there geser :)
[18:37] <mterry> geser, I can only assume because they were deeply underwater at the time.  I believe it was lool's/pitti's idea, because they knew me/my work
[18:37] <nixternal> dang, maybe someone needs to work on becoming a core-dev as well :)
[18:37] <mterry> Honestly, MIR is a bit different skill set than MOTU, although an eye for packaging tragedies is good
[18:38] <mterry> And I've only taken baby MIRs because I'm not confident
[18:38] <dholbach> that could probably be announced a bit more publicly in the future
[18:38] <geser> but it's still a good sign that they trust you to do MIRs
[18:38] <dholbach> team changes wrt archive admins, mir people, etc.
[18:39] <geser> dholbach: yes please
[18:39] <dholbach> geser: any more questions?
[18:39] <mterry> nixternal, core-dev is my next stop.  :)  or it's equivalent
[18:39] <geser> dholbach: no more questions
[18:39] <mterry> Hurry up on the motu changes.  I want to be "The Last of the MOTUs"
[18:39] <dholbach> [VOTE] Shall Michael Terry become MOTU?
[18:39] <MootBot> Please vote on:  Shall Michael Terry become MOTU?.
[18:39] <MootBot> Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0  to MootBot
[18:39] <MootBot> E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting
[18:39] <nixternal> right, forgot that could change one of these days :)
[18:39] <nixternal> +1
[18:39] <MootBot> +1 received from nixternal. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1
[18:39] <jpds> +1
[18:39] <MootBot> +1 received from jpds. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2
[18:39] <geser> +1
[18:39] <MootBot> +1 received from geser. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3
[18:40] <dholbach> +1
[18:40] <MootBot> +1 received from dholbach. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4
[18:40] <dholbach> [endvote]
[18:40] <MootBot> Final result is 4 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 4
[18:40] <mterry> Yay!
[18:40] <dholbach> congratulations mterry!
[18:40] <nixternal> mterry: congrats and welcome!
[18:40] <dholbach> awesome
[18:40] <dholbach> [TOPIC] Any other business?
[18:40] <jpds> congrats mterry.
[18:40] <MootBot> New Topic:  Any other business?
[18:40] <mterry> Thanks all
[18:40] <nixternal> YES! Welcome back MC? :P
[18:40] <dholbach> who is going to do the honours?
[18:40] <nixternal> what a busy busy summer
[18:40]  * nixternal voluntells jpds 
[18:41]  * nixternal goes and lets the dogs out before he gets voluntold
[18:42] <dholbach> if nobody else does it, I'll do it - but I need to get the dog out before :)
[18:42] <dholbach> ok... I guess I voluntold myself :)
[18:42] <nixternal> yes, yes you did :P
[18:42] <dholbach> thanks everybody
[18:42] <dholbach> take care
[18:42] <dholbach> #endmeeting
[18:42] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 12:42.
[18:42] <nixternal> CONGRATS EVERYONE!!!! NOW GET TO WORK!!!!
[18:42] <dholbach> haha
[18:42] <mterry> :)
[18:42] <czajkowski> grin
[18:42] <fabrice_sp> thanks ;-)
[18:42] <nixternal> pfft, Canonical workers spending time on IRC during work hours...tisk tisk
[18:44] <czajkowski> nixternal: how about the other folks who spend just as much time on here avoding their work
[18:44] <nixternal> czajkowski: that's what I do :)
[18:45] <czajkowski> nixternal: likewise
[18:59] <jcastro> Ubuntu Global Jam meeting is taking place in #ubuntu-classroom in about 2 minutes!
[19:45] <cody-somerville> nixternal, For the record, I do indeed endorse mterry's MOTU application.