[00:09] fta: and? [00:54] /me rsync -avh -progress /home/BUGabundo /media/bed; rm -rf /home/BUGabundo [01:14] PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND [01:14] 11039 fta 20 0 728m 324m 28m S 14 16.1 165:27.47 firefox-3.7 [01:14] [reed], ^^ [01:15] cumulative time is the worse, by far [01:15] worst [01:15] twice Xorg === iggy2 is now known as iggy11 === iggy11 is now known as iggy2 [05:11] <[reed]> fta: hmm === micahg1 is now known as micahg [07:53] <_Tsk_> Morning [08:09] morning === jtv1 is now known as jtv === asac_ is now known as asac [09:31] asac: was there an update released for bind wood? [09:31] according to the updates that im seeing i noticed one for bindwood? [09:31] you can see that in launchpad [09:31] not sure [09:32] statik: did you go through someone else with bindwood? [09:32] was the ~ubuntu-dev branch properly updated? [09:35] still same version and revision? [09:35] from what i got from the branch it seems but what was updated? [09:36] armin76: hey still there? [09:36] armin76: did you get http://paste.ubuntu.com/276891/ with gcc 44 on sparc? [09:36] eagles0513875: you can find that on launchpad [09:36] kenvandine: did you sponsor bindwood? [09:37] on the edge link where all the branches are [09:37] kenvandine: can you please update the ~ubunu-dev branch. we rely on that very much [09:37] eagles0513875: the branches are branches [09:37] eagles0513875: the packages are packages [09:37] someone can just upload package [09:37] and not update branch [09:37] what is what probably happen [09:37] gotcha [09:37] ok [09:37] you can see the diff on the launchpad package [09:37] page [09:38] ok [09:39] so asac just going to launchpad.net and seachfor bindwood [09:40] you will figure [09:40] search for the package [09:40] in ubuntu project [09:42] ok [09:42] well i know that bind wood is working after i installed it yesterday which is good cuz its asking for password to unlock the keyring of bindwood [09:45] im not finding anythign i found the first change that was done by elliot murphy which was the initial packaging of bindwood [09:45] eagles0513875: the debdiff can be found on the launchad page [09:45] you can see what changed below the upload versoin [09:45] https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bindwood [09:50] well i might be using gnome for a lil while lol [09:51] asac: seems like elliot murphy im guess whose the package maintainer uploaded it last thursday the version is the same and all [09:56] asac: i have setup a test enviroment for bug #422898 . so if you have time you can give me something to test [09:56] Launchpad bug 422898 in mozilla-devscripts "karmic build of a firefox extension behaves oddly" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/422898 [09:57] eagles0513875: i have added some missing extensions to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Karmic/ExtensionReview [09:57] they need a check [09:57] kool i have a few things to finish on bind wood [09:58] but today seems like the kde updates have broken kde so right now im installing gnome to be safwe [09:58] safe [09:59] asac: i need only the xpath command, the rest i can do myself [09:59] eagles0513875: not sure what your problem is ... if you did anything to bindwood its definitly not void now. dont bother about the update in the archive we can replay that afterwards [10:00] ok asac im not bothers but other updates killed my kde desktop on my vm im installing gnome to be safe in case same thing happens on my duelboot [10:02] k [10:02] bdrung_: one second. [10:04] ctxextension is definitly a different issue [10:04] its not using RDF:resource= [10:04] what extension was that? [10:04] ah stumble... [10:11] bdrung_: xpath -q -e '//em:targetApplication/@RDF:resource' install.rdf | sed -e 's/.*="$.*$"/\1/' [10:11] gives you the list of resource references [10:12] asac: bdrung just netsplitted [10:12] asac: might be a few before they come back [10:16] and i think TARGET_VERSION needs to be expanded by | //RDF:Description[rdf:about="$(4) or @rdf:about="$(4)]/em:$(2) | //RDF:Description[rdf:about="$(4) or @rdf:about="$(4)]/@em:$(2) [10:18] //RDF:Description[RDF:about="RDF:#$PB9V2" or @RDF:about="rdf:#$PB9V2"]/@em:maxVersion [10:18] ok so append: [10:19] asac you talking to me [10:19] | //RDF:Description[RDF:about="$(4)" or @RDF:about="$(4)"]/@em:maxVersion [10:19] no to bdrung [10:19] but he is gone [10:19] ya [10:19] hehe [10:19] never came back from the netsplit [10:19] | //RDF:Description[RDF:about="$(4)" or @RDF:about="$(4)"]/em:maxVersion [10:19] with 4 - rdf:about id [10:20] tell him to ping me ;) [10:21] ok hopefully he returns while im still around [10:21] im tempted to go hunt down lunch [10:24] wow Hi all. It seems one of our sponsors has connectivity problems, causing around 6,000 users to disconnect. We're investigating, sorry for the noise and thanks for using freenode! [10:28] 11:11 < asac> bdrung_: xpath -q -e '//em:targetApplication/@RDF:resource' install.rdf | sed -e 's/.*="$.*$"/\1/' [10:28] 11:11 < asac> gives you the list of resource references [10:29] 11:18 < asac> ok so append: [10:29] 11:19 < asac> | //RDF:Description[RDF:about="$(4)" or @RDF:about="$(4)"]/@em:maxVersion [10:29] 11:19 < asac> | //RDF:Description[RDF:about="$(4)" or @RDF:about="$(4)"]/em:maxVersion [10:29] with 4 being the resource ids from above [10:36] asac: append? [10:37] bug 430576 [10:37] Launchpad bug 430576 in network-manager "refuse to connect over Nokia N85, turns off the handset" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/430576 [10:37] bdrung_: yes to VERSION call [10:38] TARGET_VERSION [10:38] of course only if a $(4) is new [10:38] is set i mean [10:38] if thats possible [10:38] 11:29 < asac> 11:18 < asac> ok so append: [10:38] 11:29 < asac> 11:19 < asac> | //RDF:Description[RDF:about="$(4)" or @RDF:about="$(4)"]/@em:maxVersion [10:38] 11:29 < asac> 11:19 < asac> | //RDF:Description[RDF:about="$(4)" or @RDF:about="$(4)"]/em:maxVersion [10:38] those are appeneded to TARGET_VERSION [10:38] err replace maxVersion with $(2) i think [10:39] the values for $(4) you get through xpath -q -e '//em:targetApplication/@RDF:resource' install.rdf | sed -e 's/.*="$.*$"/\1/' [10:45] fta: the bot uploads wrong ubuntu revisions [10:46] it needs to reset to ubuntu1 if the upstream version gets bumped [10:46] for nm applet it uploaded -ubuntu2 [10:46] though the changelog was upstream version wise behind [11:32] asac: haven't tried on sparc for a long time, anyway it sigbuses and i haven't had the time nor the motivation to investigate it [11:32] asac: >1.9.0.12 sigbuses as well [11:33] armin76: 1.9.1? [11:35] asac: yes, 1.9.0.11 worked fine, and 1.9.1 always sigbused [11:35] apart from failing to compile due to solaris-only code [11:36] 1.9.1, that is [11:37] armin76: yeah. we build with --disable-jit now [11:37] but that alone even doesnt help [11:40] asac: i remember ncommander wanting to fix the sigbuses, ask him :) [11:41] i have a lot of stuff to do(130 bugs on ia64) + work gets me tired [11:42] i am not demanding ;) [11:42] just asking [11:42] all fine ;) [11:42] i know :P [11:44] probably i should have done s/+ work/and my full-time job/ [11:45] burn out? [11:45] go and getr holidays [11:46] and get a new job if the burn out is because of boringness or constantly bogus managers etc ;=) [11:47] i already had holidays :P [11:48] in fact today its holydays here, thats why i'm answering you :D [12:02] asac: thanks. i had to update XPI_TARGET_EMIDs, too. the bug is now fixed [12:09] bdrung_: rock. did it work? [12:09] bdrung_: what about the other install.rdf ... i thin the ctxetensions looked normal to me [12:10] or does that work ? [12:10] asac: it works with all extensions [12:10] (except pwdhash - but thats a bug in this package) [12:12] asac: does this catch all cases: echo $(MOZ_EXTENSION_PKG) | sed "s/^firefox-//;s/^mozilla-//;s/^thunderbird-//;s/^xul-ext-//" [12:16] bdrung_: why would we need that? [12:16] bdrung_: i think there can be more [12:16] basically _all_ app names have been used as prefix ;) [12:16] :( [12:17] asac: i have to determine the base-name or can i simply take the source package name for that? [12:18] asac: i want to generate something like xpi:Provides=ctxextensions xul-ext-ctxextensions firefox-ctxextensions thunderbird-ctxextensions [12:18] asac: therefore i must know how this extension is called [12:21] bdrung_: good question. i think on a best effort base thats ok [12:21] those should be most issues [12:22] which? [12:22] sorry mistyped [12:22] those should cover most cases [12:23] i think xul-ext- is only valid case [12:23] the rest should spit out warnings [12:23] or we should put something in lintian [12:24] asac: how about using the source package name (with an option to override it)? [12:24] this would make it backwards compatible [12:27] yeah [12:27] hmm [12:27] why not binary name? [12:28] asac: because the binary has million prefixes [12:28] the source has at least mozilla- and firefox- [12:28] well. but the idea is to use xul-ext- for the binary name [12:29] asac: yes [12:29] imo the binary matches the extension name much better [12:29] and hence it should be in the provides [12:29] but it should work in karmic, too [12:29] why doesnt it work in karmic? [12:30] asac: because the packages has other prefixes than xul-ext- (in lucid we will rename all those extensions) [12:30] bdrung_: yes. but for those we provide the option to override [12:31] ok [12:31] i dont think we should try to workaround too hard [12:31] i think your initial suggestion should be good enough [12:31] with the ability to override [12:32] asac: ok, it's now: MOZ_EXT_NAME ?= $(shell echo $(MOZ_EXTENSION_PKG) | sed "s/^firefox-//;s/^mozilla-//;s/^xul-ext-//") [12:32] (overridable) [12:32] asac: or is thunderbird- often used? [12:32] no [12:32] i think one or two have that [12:33] bdrung_: strip off iceweasel- [12:33] too [12:33] k [12:34] bdrung_: the RDF:Description doesnt match the about [12:34] we need to do those two steps [12:34] otherwise you end up picking the extension itself [12:34] rather than targetApplications [12:34] asac: which ext? [12:34] err the resource [12:34] 11:38 < asac> 11:29 < asac> 11:19 < asac> | //RDF:Description[RDF:about="$(4)" or @RDF:about="$(4)"]/@em:maxVersion [12:34] 11:38 < asac> 11:29 < asac> 11:19 < asac> | //RDF:Description[RDF:about="$(4)" or @RDF:about="$(4)"]/em:maxVersion [12:35] 11:39 < asac> the values for $(4) you get through xpath -q -e '//em:targetApplication/@RDF:resource' install.rdf | sed -e 's/.*="$.*$"/\1/' [12:35] also we need both cases (@em: and /em) [12:35] * asac confused [12:35] checking agai [12:36] oh you did it [12:37] ok all find [12:37] except that we need the /em:$(..) case too [12:37] everything that is an attribute can always be a subelement [12:37] k, will add this [12:37] /em:$(2)/text() [12:38] like the first in the TARGET_VERSION === iggy2 is now known as Iggy2 === Iggy2 is now known as Iggy11 === Iggy11 is now known as Iggy2 [12:45] bdrung_: you should be able to test that by moving the em:maxVersion=... to a subelement of the RDF:Description>... but i would think its safe given that we use the same pattern before that [12:48] * eagles0513875 is scared to interrupt asac and bdrug as they seem to be in the middle of rather detailed work [12:49] eagles0513875: my last name is not drug :D [12:49] eagles0513875: we are finished now [12:50] whoops sry bdrung_ im multitasking trying to back up my .ssh folder but brasero on gnome doesnt wanna burn anything for me [12:50] everything seems to be starting to break again on alpha 6 [12:50] kde is kaput todays kde updated packages broke the whole install as they are complaining about dependency issues [12:51] eagles0513875: s/kaput/kaputt/ ;) [12:51] lol [12:51] so im running on gnome for now [12:52] hey guys can i get ur opinion that is somewhat related to mozilla stuff and other things [12:53] yes [12:54] what would you guys think if i put forth a proposal for 10.04 that allows a user to choose which browser office suite and email client to use [12:54] you guys think that is a good idea [12:55] eagles0513875: at installation time or when? [12:56] installation time [12:58] hm, at most as option somewhere (like the popcon or grub installation). otherwise it would nag the user who loves the default [12:58] asac: pushed [12:59] asac: tested and ready for release [13:01] i kinda got this idea after reading what the us supreme court is forcing msft to do for users they are now giving options to users of what browser to install by default besides ie [13:01] so i was thinking why not do the same here [13:01] what u mean by at most as option somewhere (like the popcon or grub installation). otherwise it would nag the user who loves the default [13:01] and the defaults would be included in the list of options [13:04] bdrung_: arent you in Dm-Uploaders? [13:04] if so, just up to debian :) [13:04] eagles0513875: the installation only asks question which are really required. asking which browser to use, would add a not required question [13:05] maybe so but in all honesty how many users use the default browser [13:05] or the default office app [13:05] asac: yes, but DM-Upload-Allowed: Yes is not set in version 0.15 [13:05] hmm [13:05] asac: so this time you have to do it [13:06] hmm ... how unfortunate ;) ... ok i add that and release ... next time you can do ;) [13:06] asac: i already add it [13:09] bdrung_: is it a good idea though to put forth to motu and see what they say [13:10] eagles0513875: you could ask on the mailing list and see it they like your idea or not [13:11] motu maililng list [13:12] or ubuntu devel [13:12] ok :( [13:12] eagles0513875: ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com [13:13] thanks bdrung_ [13:20] asac: which is the fastest way to get m-d 0.16 into karmic? [13:20] eagles0513875: about 95+% of the users stick to the default we chooose. thats the idea ;) [13:20] bdrung_: upload to debian [13:20] and sync [13:21] asac: emailed the devel and motu lists and see what they think [13:21] bdrung_: ok uploading to debian now (hope arch all packages are ok if built on ubuntu :)) [13:21] bdrung_: do you think its bad? [13:21] to upload from ubuntu _all build? [13:22] asac: i used a sid pbuilder for uploading, but for m-d it should not hurt [13:23] ok just did it ;) [13:23] i think i even did it for last upload [13:24] asac: do you sync it into karmic? [13:24] yes [13:25] thats the idea [13:25] asac: via requestsync, or are there other ways? [13:26] bdrung_: i usually ask some archive admin to sync [13:26] k, thats faster [13:47] seems like my idea is liked :) [13:52] asac, eagles0513875, av`: hopefully it's the last time i updated: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Karmic/ExtensionReview it now contains the changes from m-d 0.16. the version column is for the released version string [13:53] ? [13:53] ok will figure out what that means when i get to it lol [13:58] eagles0513875: for what is your ? [13:58] my question is 0.16 still for lucid and the extensions that will go into it [14:03] 0.16 for everything we touch now at least [14:04] not sure we need to reupload htose that have 0.15 now [14:04] but would make sense [14:06] asac: it would make sense (because of provides) [14:06] eagles0513875: 0.16 is for all (only the renaming is left for lucid) [14:07] ok so back to correcting that in bindwood then [14:07] bdrung_: right. i think its fine to go through the extensions and bump all to 0.16 [14:07] do i need to create a new changelog? [14:07] bdrung_: but probably after we managed to go through full list once ;) [14:07] * asac will help out on that extension stuff soon [14:08] hehe asac gnomefreak has been a big contributor to most of em [14:08] yes ... he is eager ;) [14:09] i will review the extensions, too [14:09] we should add a "uploaded" column or something [14:09] i cannot see on one look what extensions still need work [14:09] ya [14:10] asac: there is the version column [14:10] yeah. we could use that ... but seems was not maintained [14:10] or nothing was uploaded yet [14:10] asac: added it 10 minutes ago [14:10] !seen andv [14:10] I have no seen command [14:11] !last and [14:11] Sorry, I don't know anything about last and [14:11] andv [14:11] !last andv [14:11] Sorry, I don't know anything about last andv [14:11] bdrung_: i think we should have Uploaded Debian and Uploaded Ubuntu column [14:11] hmm i always thought i have the seen plugin in my irssi [14:11] asac: good idea [14:13] asac: it should only set, if all things are done (including the 0.16 things) [14:16] can i use the same change log entry tht i added to bindwood or do i need a new one [14:29] bdrung_: does ur .ssh folder only have 3 files in it [14:29] or asac either one of u can respond [14:30] eagles0513875: authorized_keys config id_rsa id_rsa.pub known_hosts [14:30] well i only have 3 files in mine O_O [14:30] id_rsa id_rsa.pub and known hosts [14:30] no config [14:35] eagles0513875: that is enough [14:35] ok :) [14:35] burning to cd now [14:57] :( no bind wood fixing today :'( [15:22] bdrung_: when u do a reinstall what do u do with the .ssh folder u backed up [15:24] eagles0513875: copy them [15:24] eagles0513875: i have /home on a separate partition and backup the complete /home [15:25] kool [15:25] you dont have to import it into any particular program [15:26] just need gnupg installed and add the .ssh folder to home dir [15:41] hey all [15:42] i'm a QA engineer at mozilla corp and wanted to give you guys a heads up that the QA community has set up a channel on freenode, its' located at #mozilla-quality [15:52] asac: What's the status on bug #217908 ? [15:52] Launchpad bug 217908 in cairo "Pixellated Images in Firefox/Opera due to incorrect EXTEND_PAD implementation in several video drivers" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/217908 [15:53] TomJaeger: i think the problem was that we dont get xserver 1.7 [15:53] asac, which doesn't really matter since we have all the necessary patches already in place [15:53] aakashd: thanks for the heads up :) [15:53] :) [15:53] your welcome [15:54] i'm trying to push the guys to come over to double-up on this channel as well [15:54] asac: you see i'm a QA engineer at mozilla corp and wanted to give you guys a heads up that the QA community has set up a channel on freenode, its' located at #mozilla-quality [15:54] aakashd: asac seems to be the one in charge of alot of the mozilla stuff [15:54] ah ok [15:54] good to know [15:54] hey asac [16:00] asac, The whole system is messed up. Upstream doesn't give a shit about linux support, and we're somehow not allowed to fix the issues ourselves. [16:09] cyphermox: connman ready? [16:10] nope [16:10] i'm stuck with work stuff [16:10] k [16:11] asac, I think all I have left to do is patch the init script [16:21] asac, i'll let you know soon, i'm running pbuilder and i'll still have to run the tests === iggy2 is now known as Iggy1 [17:06] asac, nice work today: http://paste.ubuntu.com/277205/ [17:07] heh [17:07] most work isnt in there ;) [17:07] lots of build failures ;) [17:08] feel wasted ;) [17:08] will drop out [17:08] once i know that applet builds ; [17:10] * asac didnt reboot since upstart transition [17:10] before [17:10] too scared that i cannot work ;) [17:11] asac: it works in my kvm [17:11] yeah [17:12] i should just reboot ... will do so in a few after seein that applet build on amd64 [17:17] asac, i did it everywhere, no problem [17:21] grrr, i hate lintian [17:22] i wonder why they made dir-or-file-in-var-www [17:22] while they didn't for /usr/lib/cgi-bin [17:25] !now [17:25] Sorry, I don't know anything about now [17:32] asac: i can tellu kde dont work at least for me [17:38] fta2: /var is usually someting where packages dont put files [17:38] thats all dynamic there [17:38] maybe a reason [17:38] but maybe because everything in /var/www is available in apache defualt setup somehow? [17:38] no clue [17:41] asac: im not sure about apache but i think tha tfolder is where all the site u host are kept [17:41] if i remember correctly [17:41] yes [17:42] anyway ... ok off for a few evening hours [17:42] im soon out [17:42] and im still sweraing at kde === iggy4 is now known as Iggy1 [18:30] fta: the bot uploads wrong ubuntu revisions <= i know, that's an old bug i need to fix [18:49] asac: whom to ask for syncing m-d? [19:08] bdrung_, open a sync request [19:08] if it's a bug-fix only release it's ok [19:08] if not you need an FFe [19:09] i will take care of this [19:09] might need to wait till after beta ... arch is frozen [20:02] strange, all the icons in alerts popups are corrupted [20:07] asac, [reed]: ^^ [20:07] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/Error.png [20:07] http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/Screenshot-Alert.png [20:08] <[reed]> yeah [20:08] <[reed]> known bug [20:08] <[reed]> let me find it [20:11] corrupoted? [20:12] ok rebooting. wish me luck ;) [20:12] good luck [20:15] <[reed]> guh, stupid mail client [20:16] <[reed]> fta: mozilla bug 516665 [20:16] Mozilla bug 516665 in ImageLib "distorted images with moz-icon://*?size=dialog" [Major,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=516665 [20:19] thx [20:51] baaaaad, todays update gave me the "requires a restart, restart now" long before the upgrade was complete [21:12] fta, can you sponsor a gwibber upload? [21:13] fixes some nice bugs and we need it for support of the indicator-messages upload about to happen [21:16] or asac ^^ [21:17] lp:~gwibber-team/gwibber/packaging [21:17] bug 434097 [21:17] Launchpad bug 434097 in pidgin "Launchers shouldn't be stored in /etc" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/434097 [21:24] kenvandine, rev63? [21:24] yes please [21:24] kenvandine, is that a new upstream release? [21:24] it is a new snapshot [21:24] fixes a bunch of stuff [21:25] is it a bug fix only? [21:25] like retweets, notifications, etc [21:25] or new featues [21:25] kenvandine, ok, I will have a look [21:25] * features [21:25] fta thx [21:25] av`, it is fixing features that are busted :) [21:25] kenvandine, btw, is the -daemon restarted on upgrade now? [21:25] then should be fine [21:25] fta, humm... no [21:25] kenvandine, we are in feature freeze u know? :) [21:25] av`, yes [21:26] that's why I asked [21:26] fta, we should really do that, i'll talk to ryan [21:27] kenvandine, sometimes, after an upgrade, i'm no longer able to post, no error. i need to kill the daemon to make it work again [21:27] fta, yea... good point [21:27]