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ubottuIn #ubuntu-bots, dragon said: ubottu: autofs is <reply>Automount is the modern way to mount directories over a network. It is much easier to manage and more economic in bandwidth than static mounts via fstab. For more info - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs00:28
dragonand Automount should be an alias for autofs, but I'm not sure how to do that.00:29
Pici!autofs is <reply>Automount is the modern way to mount directories over a network. It is much easier to manage and  more economic in bandwidth than static mounts via fstab. For more info - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs00:29
ubottuI'll remember that, Pici00:29
Pici!automount is <alias> autofs00:30
dragonPici: thanks00:30
Picidragon: looks good00:30
dragon!automount00:30
ubottuAutomount is the modern way to mount directories over a network. It is much easier to manage and  more economic in bandwidth than static mounts via fstab. For more info - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs00:30
dragonyep good00:30
dragonsee ya later00:30
Picinice when the bots ban zewb so we dont have to00:43
LjL#ubuntuforums [01:34:40] <Bachstelze> Congrats, you are now educated! [01:36:03] <axionix> educated enough to avoid the kline that was bestowed upon me [01:36:27] <LjL> what, you evaded a k-line? [01:36:38] <axionix> no comment [01:36:40] <LjL> you do realize that freenode staff hate when people do that [01:36:42] <Snova> Not educated enough, apparently [01:36:53] <Bachstelze> lmao [01:38:43] <axionix> not surprising. ever since rob passed away freenode00:44
LjLbecame pretty hateful00:44
LjLsome staff members may at some point want to look at that00:44
Flannel+z for ubottu after three?00:47
Flanneler, +b00:47
Flannelwhatever00:47
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)00:49
Crash1hdunable to join ubuntu?02:31
PiciCrash1hd: Have you followed the directions in the topic of #ubuntu-read-topic?02:32
Crash1hdyes02:32
PiciCrash1hd: And what happened?02:33
Crash1hdnothing02:33
Crash1hdmy firmware is up to date02:34
Picican you try the 'test me' thing again please?02:34
Piciyes 'nothing'02:34
PiciCrash1hd: looks like that wasn't nothing/02:35
Crash1hdit just comes back with Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how)02:35
PiciCrash1hd: Thats okay, but the other bot did test you, and you got disconnected.02:35
PiciI suggest that you connect over port 8001 and then get re-tested02:35
Crash1hdyep02:35
PiciThe only important bot is FloodBot1, not FloodBotK102:36
Pici(we're aware its confusing and we're going to fix that soon)02:36
FlannelStaffy people, troll in #math05:45
Myrttismack me if sabdfl joins -ot and I start to veer towards something snappy about Linux being hard to understand06:02
FlannelWhat?06:02
FlannelEr... ok.06:02
Flannelthat just seems oddly specific06:02
Myrttihttp://identi.ca/conversation/1061096306:04
Myrtti"Linux is hard, let's go shopping!"06:05
AmaranthDid a doll ever actually say something like that?06:07
Amaranth<blank> is hard, let's go shopping06:08
MyrttiAmaranth: yes, a Barbie06:08
MyrttiMaths is hard, let's go shopping06:08
AmaranthI thought that was just a joke06:08
Amaranthholy crap06:08
Myrttiearly indoctrination, yay!06:09
AmaranthAnd of course she can only go shopping without worrying about math because Ken takes care of all the bills, right?06:09
FlannelI believe they were two separate statements, but that's not terribly important.06:09
FlannelPull the string once, pull it again, etc.06:09
AmaranthFlannel: Yeah, it was probably saying them in a random order and those two popped out06:09
* Flannel wonders if his grandmother owns said barbie.06:10
Myrttiargh, now I've got Moby's In My Life intro in my head06:10
Myrttilike three chords playing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over06:10
Myrttiand I'm starting to feel I'm not fit for IRC again06:11
elkyAmaranth, talking malibu stacey in the simpsons did too, remember.06:41
Amaranthyeah, I thought that was where it came from06:42
elkyhence the lisa lionheart doll06:50
elkyrargh at all this "it wasn't me, but i'll stop it"08:45
MenZamorning, elky08:51
jpdsMorning.09:21
wizzowould anyone be able to tell me what happened with thewizord, fogobogo and bruenig?10:02
Flannelwizzo: We don't discuss bans with third parties, so likely not.10:05
wizzowell I suppose it sort of affects me since there are apparently staffers hanging out in the archlinux offtopic channel now because of it10:07
Flannelwizzo: The background of you being an operator in said channel might've been relevant to bring up in your original question10:10
ikoniawizzo: I sugget you speak to staff (tomaw is a good start) in #freenode10:24
wizzothanks, although I probably won't worry about it in that case10:25
ikoniawizzo: anything else you need in here ?10:28
wizzospose not, thankyou10:29
MenZathis could be one-hell-of-an awesome idea, or it could be the mistake of my life10:34
ikoniasome of the council members may wish to talk to wizzo in private (I've not sent my email yet - sorry)10:35
elkyikonia, about what? only just got home, i'm missing context10:37
ikoniaelky: he's one of the ops for archlinux-offtopic, there was a more monkey business last night, staff used the k hammer on some people, he was trying to find out what is going10:38
ikonia"going on" sorry10:38
FlannelMenZa: which one's that?10:39
elkyikonia, ah.10:39
MenZawell, Flannel, it wasn't meant for here, but rather -ot, but my ALT key appears to dislike changing to channels now.10:39
jussi01if staff used the khammer, why hasnt he talked to them to find out?10:39
elkyjussi01, that's where he's been directed to go as of 15 mins ago, it seems10:41
ikoniacorrect10:42
ikoniahowever I also think he was trying to understand what was going on in the channel10:42
ikoniaI suspect he knows more than he is letting on as he knew to come here.....which is a random channel to pick unless you know the trolling is going on10:42
jussi01I guess i missed some with the spit10:43
jussi01split even10:45
ikoniaI just thought if he was genuine about not knowning what was going on the concil filling him in may help10:45
jussi01ikonia: My first thought is the staffers have the info, and he needs to ask them. but I am open to other thoughts.10:46
ikoniaI meant with the background, staff acted on that incident, the history, long term trolling may be worth filling in10:47
ikoniahowever I suspect he knows that as he came here to investigate10:47
ikoniabut I obviously don't know for a fact10:47
elkyjussi01, -ops channels are not entirely rare.10:51
jussi01huh?10:52
elkysorry, conflated your nick with ikonia's.10:54
ikoniaelky: no but he must have known there was something to do with ubuntu to come here10:57
ikoniawhy not fedora-ops for example10:57
elkyah10:58
MenZababu_ may be a rather obvious troll in #ubuntu - monitoring.10:58
MenZaOpinions on the matter in #ubuntu, anyone? Discussing how well Ubuntu is running on someone's machine would be rather ot for #ubuntu, agreed?11:04
ikoniaif he's having a problem with it running bad, it's ok11:04
MenZaThat's not the case here11:04
ikoniajust saying how cool it is could be moved on11:04
MenZaBasically, a discussion about P4s and hardware breaks out, I ask people to take it to -offtopic, Gnea asks me not to call the factoid, I message him asking for an explanation for it, so as not to disrupt the channel11:05
MenZa[2009-09-24 09:53:31 UTC] <MenZa> Pardon?11:05
MenZa[2009-09-24 09:54:09 UTC] <MenZa> I am not asking you as MenZa, I am asking you as a member of the Ubuntu IRC team. I'm simply curious about your comment. Offtopic chat goes in -ot, which I know you are very well aware of. :)11:05
MenZa[2009-09-24 09:54:38 UTC] <Gnea> you're PMing me without asking first. welcome to /ignore.11:05
MenZaIn-between my first two lines was his !pm | MenZa in-channel11:05
ikoniahang on, it's gnea your talking about ?11:06
MenZaCorrect11:06
MenZaalternatively, /lastlog Tarthen11:06
ikoniahe's normally helpful and polite11:06
MenZaThat's my experience11:06
ikoniaI've not got much logging due to clearing down my logs11:06
ikoniahang on11:06
ikoniaahh, he's pm'ing me now11:06
ikoniaI'll sort it out now11:07
ikoniathanks MenZa11:07
MenZaExcellent. Let me know if you need me.11:07
ikoniaall sorted MenZa11:15
ikoniaMenZa: looks like the discussion was a little more ontopic than suggested as it was trying to find the correct supported hardware if you read back far enough, but its all clean and tidy now, thank you11:15
MenZaAhh.11:15
MenZaThanks :)11:15
elkyi hope gnea has been told why it's not wise to sass ops with "you're on ignore now"11:32
ikoniayes11:35
* Pici grumbles13:39
* MenZa wobbles13:44
ikonia?13:55
PiciOh. I almost forgot about this: We should have #kubuntu forward to a different -read-topic channel. When people request exploit tests, the Kubuntu floodbots are telling them that they're unable to be tested.14:46
choonminghi there14:47
choonmingcan someone test me for the dcc exploit14:47
choonmingi cant join the ubuntu channel14:47
Picichoonming: You've already been tested.14:47
choonmingPici, but im still not able to joing #ubuntu14:47
choonmingi patched the firmware and changed the port number14:48
Picichoonming: You should be able to, the ban forward was removed.14:48
choonmingthank you14:48
gordi'm gonna take a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiild guess, this is an mirc exploit\?14:48
Pici!exploit14:48
ubottuThere are people around who think it is funny to abuse a bug in certain routers by sending invalid DCC commands. When bitten by this bug ops in #ubuntu remove users so they are no longer targets. To fix it have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixDCCExploit14:48
gordoh, that one. from ages ago. forgot all about that14:49
Picijussi01: do we need tsimpson for that?14:50
jussi01Pici: yes.14:50
Picidarn14:50
jussi01Pici: we still have only 1 floodbot as I have no idea where he keeps the other one...14:51
jussi01its not a good situation right now.14:51
* Pici looks under the couch14:51
ikoniayou can run it from my box that nal uses for one of ubot's if you want14:52
jussi01ikonia: I dont have the code for it. its not a matter of hosting, its a matter of people not knowing where it is, how to deal with this.14:53
Picijussi01: I'm muting floodbotk1 in -read-topic for now to ease the confusion15:01
jussi01Pici: no probs.15:01
naliothgord: the "mirc exploit" has been patched by mr kardam-bay quite a long time ago15:14
naliothas far as the bots go, how difficult would it be to have "channel recognition" and just run the FB trio in both channels?15:14
gordnalioth: there seems to be a new one every year15:15
Picinalioth: I don't think any of us are familiar enough with the bot code to answer that, I'm certainly not.15:16
naliothgord: no, the current one (which has been in use for years) is the hardware protection exploit (i. e. the D C C S E N D exloit)15:16
naliothgord: it is entirely coincidental that the word "s t a r t k e y l o g g e r" has enough chars to trip it15:17
gordnalioth: yeah i know that from the ubottu response up there15:17
gordjust didn't realise there was still routers vunerable, thought that one had died out15:18
naliothgord: poeple don't realize that it's not a vulnerability, but a protection mechanism15:18
nalioththis is why patching a lot of 'em has done no good at all15:18
Tm_Thi16:24
PiciHiyas16:25
MenZahellooo16:25
ubottuFlare183 called the ops in #ubuntu (federico_)18:32
PiciThat was a bit overkill18:33
FlannelPici: What, you mean instead of calling ops on people, we should try talking to them first?18:33
Tm_Tnoooo, no talking, you fuss18:45
=== pinkcoons is now known as nickspoon
ubottuFloodBot2 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)22:22
ubottuFloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit)22:22
ubottuIn #ubuntu-bots, dragon said: ubottu: multiseatx is <reply>Multiseat X is a where one machine is attached to several sets of keyboards, mice, and monitors, which can operate independently of each other -- each under the control of a different user. For more info - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX23:49
ubottuIn #ubuntu-bots, dragon said: ubottu: multiseat is <alias>multiseatx23:49
dragon!flavors23:53
ubottu!GTK and !Qt are !GUI toolkits (i.e. software libraries that draw buttons, textboxes, etc). !GNOME, !KDE, !Xfce and friends are "!desktop environments", which build on top of such libraries to provide a "consistent" desktop experience. !Kubuntu and !Xubuntu are simply flavors of Ubuntu that come with KDE and Xfce (respectively) installed as default, instead of GNOME. Other specialized flavors of Ubuntu include !Edubuntu23:53
dragonIsn't this a bit too long?23:54
gordtheres a lot to say23:55
dragongord: maybe the factoid should be split. As per my understanding, Flavors = [Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edu...]23:57
dragonGTK, QT etc. might not be relevant in this context.23:58
dragon-ops get to decide that though23:58

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