[00:29] <dragon> and Automount should be an alias for autofs, but I'm not sure how to do that.
[00:29] <Pici> !autofs is <reply>Automount is the modern way to mount directories over a network. It is much easier to manage and  more economic in bandwidth than static mounts via fstab. For more info - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[00:30] <Pici> !automount is <alias> autofs
[00:30] <dragon> Pici: thanks
[00:30] <Pici> dragon: looks good
[00:30] <dragon> !automount
[00:30] <dragon> yep good
[00:30] <dragon> see ya later
[00:43] <Pici> nice when the bots ban zewb so we dont have to
[00:44] <LjL> #ubuntuforums [01:34:40] <Bachstelze> Congrats, you are now educated! [01:36:03] <axionix> educated enough to avoid the kline that was bestowed upon me [01:36:27] <LjL> what, you evaded a k-line? [01:36:38] <axionix> no comment [01:36:40] <LjL> you do realize that freenode staff hate when people do that [01:36:42] <Snova> Not educated enough, apparently [01:36:53] <Bachstelze> lmao [01:38:43] <axionix> not surprising. ever since rob passed away freenode
[00:44] <LjL> became pretty hateful
[00:44] <LjL> some staff members may at some point want to look at that
[00:47] <Flannel> +z for ubottu after three?
[00:47] <Flannel> er, +b
[00:47] <Flannel> whatever
[02:31] <Crash1hd> unable to join ubuntu?
[02:32] <Pici> Crash1hd: Have you followed the directions in the topic of #ubuntu-read-topic?
[02:32] <Crash1hd> yes
[02:33] <Pici> Crash1hd: And what happened?
[02:33] <Crash1hd> nothing
[02:34] <Crash1hd> my firmware is up to date
[02:34] <Pici> can you try the 'test me' thing again please?
[02:34] <Pici> yes 'nothing'
[02:35] <Pici> Crash1hd: looks like that wasn't nothing/
[02:35] <Crash1hd> it just comes back with Sorry, but I am unable to test you (are you using your usual nickname?). Please contact the operators (type « /topic » to find out how)
[02:35] <Pici> Crash1hd: Thats okay, but the other bot did test you, and you got disconnected.
[02:35] <Pici> I suggest that you connect over port 8001 and then get re-tested
[02:35] <Crash1hd> yep
[02:36] <Pici> The only important bot is FloodBot1, not FloodBotK1
[02:36] <Pici> (we're aware its confusing and we're going to fix that soon)
[05:45] <Flannel> Staffy people, troll in #math
[06:02] <Myrtti> smack me if sabdfl joins -ot and I start to veer towards something snappy about Linux being hard to understand
[06:02] <Flannel> What?
[06:02] <Flannel> Er... ok.
[06:02] <Flannel> that just seems oddly specific
[06:04] <Myrtti> http://identi.ca/conversation/10610963
[06:05] <Myrtti> "Linux is hard, let's go shopping!"
[06:07] <Amaranth> Did a doll ever actually say something like that?
 is hard, let's go shopping
[06:08] <Myrtti> Amaranth: yes, a Barbie
[06:08] <Myrtti> Maths is hard, let's go shopping
[06:08] <Amaranth> I thought that was just a joke
[06:08] <Amaranth> holy crap
[06:09] <Myrtti> early indoctrination, yay!
[06:09] <Amaranth> And of course she can only go shopping without worrying about math because Ken takes care of all the bills, right?
[06:09] <Flannel> I believe they were two separate statements, but that's not terribly important.
[06:09] <Flannel> Pull the string once, pull it again, etc.
[06:09] <Amaranth> Flannel: Yeah, it was probably saying them in a random order and those two popped out
[06:10]  * Flannel wonders if his grandmother owns said barbie.
[06:10] <Myrtti> argh, now I've got Moby's In My Life intro in my head
[06:10] <Myrtti> like three chords playing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over
[06:11] <Myrtti> and I'm starting to feel I'm not fit for IRC again
[06:41] <elky> Amaranth, talking malibu stacey in the simpsons did too, remember.
[06:42] <Amaranth> yeah, I thought that was where it came from
[06:50] <elky> hence the lisa lionheart doll
[08:45] <elky> rargh at all this "it wasn't me, but i'll stop it"
[08:51] <MenZa> morning, elky
[09:21] <jpds> Morning.
[10:02] <wizzo> would anyone be able to tell me what happened with thewizord, fogobogo and bruenig?
[10:05] <Flannel> wizzo: We don't discuss bans with third parties, so likely not.
[10:07] <wizzo> well I suppose it sort of affects me since there are apparently staffers hanging out in the archlinux offtopic channel now because of it
[10:10] <Flannel> wizzo: The background of you being an operator in said channel might've been relevant to bring up in your original question
[10:24] <ikonia> wizzo: I sugget you speak to staff (tomaw is a good start) in #freenode
[10:25] <wizzo> thanks, although I probably won't worry about it in that case
[10:28] <ikonia> wizzo: anything else you need in here ?
[10:29] <wizzo> spose not, thankyou
[10:34] <MenZa> this could be one-hell-of-an awesome idea, or it could be the mistake of my life
[10:35] <ikonia> some of the council members may wish to talk to wizzo in private (I've not sent my email yet - sorry)
[10:37] <elky> ikonia, about what? only just got home, i'm missing context
[10:38] <ikonia> elky: he's one of the ops for archlinux-offtopic, there was a more monkey business last night, staff used the k hammer on some people, he was trying to find out what is going
[10:38] <ikonia> "going on" sorry
[10:39] <Flannel> MenZa: which one's that?
[10:39] <elky> ikonia, ah.
[10:39] <MenZa> well, Flannel, it wasn't meant for here, but rather -ot, but my ALT key appears to dislike changing to channels now.
[10:39] <jussi01> if staff used the khammer, why hasnt he talked to them to find out?
[10:41] <elky> jussi01, that's where he's been directed to go as of 15 mins ago, it seems
[10:42] <ikonia> correct
[10:42] <ikonia> however I also think he was trying to understand what was going on in the channel
[10:42] <ikonia> I suspect he knows more than he is letting on as he knew to come here.....which is a random channel to pick unless you know the trolling is going on
[10:43] <jussi01> I guess i missed some with the spit
[10:45] <jussi01> split even
[10:45] <ikonia> I just thought if he was genuine about not knowning what was going on the concil filling him in may help
[10:46] <jussi01> ikonia: My first thought is the staffers have the info, and he needs to ask them. but I am open to other thoughts.
[10:47] <ikonia> I meant with the background, staff acted on that incident, the history, long term trolling may be worth filling in
[10:47] <ikonia> however I suspect he knows that as he came here to investigate
[10:47] <ikonia> but I obviously don't know for a fact
[10:51] <elky> jussi01, -ops channels are not entirely rare.
[10:52] <jussi01> huh?
[10:54] <elky> sorry, conflated your nick with ikonia's.
[10:57] <ikonia> elky: no but he must have known there was something to do with ubuntu to come here
[10:57] <ikonia> why not fedora-ops for example
[10:58] <elky> ah
[10:58] <MenZa> babu_ may be a rather obvious troll in #ubuntu - monitoring.
[11:04] <MenZa> Opinions on the matter in #ubuntu, anyone? Discussing how well Ubuntu is running on someone's machine would be rather ot for #ubuntu, agreed?
[11:04] <ikonia> if he's having a problem with it running bad, it's ok
[11:04] <MenZa> That's not the case here
[11:04] <ikonia> just saying how cool it is could be moved on
[11:05] <MenZa> Basically, a discussion about P4s and hardware breaks out, I ask people to take it to -offtopic, Gnea asks me not to call the factoid, I message him asking for an explanation for it, so as not to disrupt the channel
[11:05] <MenZa> [2009-09-24 09:53:31 UTC] <MenZa> Pardon?
[11:05] <MenZa> [2009-09-24 09:54:09 UTC] <MenZa> I am not asking you as MenZa, I am asking you as a member of the Ubuntu IRC team. I'm simply curious about your comment. Offtopic chat goes in -ot, which I know you are very well aware of. :)
[11:05] <MenZa> [2009-09-24 09:54:38 UTC] <Gnea> you're PMing me without asking first. welcome to /ignore.
[11:05] <MenZa> In-between my first two lines was his !pm | MenZa in-channel
[11:06] <ikonia> hang on, it's gnea your talking about ?
[11:06] <MenZa> Correct
[11:06] <MenZa> alternatively, /lastlog Tarthen
[11:06] <ikonia> he's normally helpful and polite
[11:06] <MenZa> That's my experience
[11:06] <ikonia> I've not got much logging due to clearing down my logs
[11:06] <ikonia> hang on
[11:06] <ikonia> ahh, he's pm'ing me now
[11:07] <ikonia> I'll sort it out now
[11:07] <ikonia> thanks MenZa
[11:07] <MenZa> Excellent. Let me know if you need me.
[11:15] <ikonia> all sorted MenZa
[11:15] <ikonia> MenZa: looks like the discussion was a little more ontopic than suggested as it was trying to find the correct supported hardware if you read back far enough, but its all clean and tidy now, thank you
[11:15] <MenZa> Ahh.
[11:15] <MenZa> Thanks :)
[11:32] <elky> i hope gnea has been told why it's not wise to sass ops with "you're on ignore now"
[11:35] <ikonia> yes
[13:39]  * Pici grumbles
[13:44]  * MenZa wobbles
[13:55] <ikonia> ?
[14:46] <Pici> Oh. I almost forgot about this: We should have #kubuntu forward to a different -read-topic channel. When people request exploit tests, the Kubuntu floodbots are telling them that they're unable to be tested.
[14:47] <choonming> hi there
[14:47] <choonming> can someone test me for the dcc exploit
[14:47] <choonming> i cant join the ubuntu channel
[14:47] <Pici> choonming: You've already been tested.
[14:47] <choonming> Pici, but im still not able to joing #ubuntu
[14:48] <choonming> i patched the firmware and changed the port number
[14:48] <Pici> choonming: You should be able to, the ban forward was removed.
[14:48] <choonming> thank you
[14:48] <gord> i'm gonna take a wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiild guess, this is an mirc exploit\?
[14:48] <Pici> !exploit
[14:49] <gord> oh, that one. from ages ago. forgot all about that
[14:50] <Pici> jussi01: do we need tsimpson for that?
[14:50] <jussi01> Pici: yes.
[14:50] <Pici> darn
[14:51] <jussi01> Pici: we still have only 1 floodbot as I have no idea where he keeps the other one...
[14:51] <jussi01> its not a good situation right now.
[14:51]  * Pici looks under the couch
[14:52] <ikonia> you can run it from my box that nal uses for one of ubot's if you want
[14:53] <jussi01> ikonia: I dont have the code for it. its not a matter of hosting, its a matter of people not knowing where it is, how to deal with this.
[15:01] <Pici> jussi01: I'm muting floodbotk1 in -read-topic for now to ease the confusion
[15:01] <jussi01> Pici: no probs.
[15:14] <nalioth> gord: the "mirc exploit" has been patched by mr kardam-bay quite a long time ago
[15:14] <nalioth> as far as the bots go, how difficult would it be to have "channel recognition" and just run the FB trio in both channels?
[15:15] <gord> nalioth: there seems to be a new one every year
[15:16] <Pici> nalioth: I don't think any of us are familiar enough with the bot code to answer that, I'm certainly not.
[15:16] <nalioth> gord: no, the current one (which has been in use for years) is the hardware protection exploit (i. e. the D C C S E N D exloit)
[15:17] <nalioth> gord: it is entirely coincidental that the word "s t a r t k e y l o g g e r" has enough chars to trip it
[15:17] <gord> nalioth: yeah i know that from the ubottu response up there
[15:18] <gord> just didn't realise there was still routers vunerable, thought that one had died out
[15:18] <nalioth> gord: poeple don't realize that it's not a vulnerability, but a protection mechanism
[15:18] <nalioth> this is why patching a lot of 'em has done no good at all
[16:24] <Tm_T> hi
[16:25] <Pici> Hiyas
[16:25] <MenZa> hellooo
[18:33] <Pici> That was a bit overkill
[18:33] <Flannel> Pici: What, you mean instead of calling ops on people, we should try talking to them first?
[18:45] <Tm_T> noooo, no talking, you fuss
[23:53] <dragon> !flavors
[23:54] <dragon> Isn't this a bit too long?
[23:55] <gord> theres a lot to say
[23:57] <dragon> gord: maybe the factoid should be split. As per my understanding, Flavors = [Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edu...]
[23:58] <dragon> GTK, QT etc. might not be relevant in this context.
[23:58] <dragon> -ops get to decide that though