[00:00] <trakcyia> does unnecessary words constitute trolling? Sometimes people just lack the time to make things short
[00:00] <erUSUL> salmiak: :1 i can not help further sorry
[00:00] <Gnea> trakcyia: it depends on the situation.
[00:00] <yva> hi, have you any ideas why empathy will replace pidgin (as default messenger) in 9.10?
[00:00] <nanotube> trakcyia: i bet the wikipedia entry on trolling is pretty informative ;)
[00:01] <Pici> yva : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[00:01] <trakcyia> nanotube, i admit it, i'm trolling about the trolling topic, ill get back to work
[00:01] <Blankman> What is the SIMPLEST way to format a drive?  I want to wipe 100% of the usable drive.  I don't need it to be super secure, I just want to wipe and start over.
[00:01] <jrib> erUSUL, salmiak: I saw someone with that error a couple of days ago.  Turns out there are some packages that give ffmpeg more functionality (whose names I do not recall)
[00:01] <Pici> !offtopic
[00:01] <salmiak> erUSUL: yeah np thax anyway
[00:01] <nanotube> yva: yes, because of the 'not invented here' syndrome. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Invented_Here
[00:01] <Blankman> I want to load up ubuntu with xfce... if that matters
[00:01] <erUSUL> jrib: now that you mention it salmiak medibuntu's ffmpeg is more capable. you know all that patents stuff.
[00:02] <erUSUL> !medibuntu
[00:02] <dragon> what's the command to launch the default browser in gnome?
[00:02] <losher> erUSUL: ok, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3GP, 3GP file format stores video streams as MPEG-4 Part 2 or H.263 or MPEG-4 Part 10 (AVC/H.264), so I'm wondering if avidemux will convert it...
[00:02] <jrib> erUSUL: it was some lib, but that's also a good suggestion to try first
[00:02] <Blankman> Anyone use dban?  I need to wipe my drive so I can install ubuntu
[00:02] <jrib> dragon: gnome-open URL works
[00:02] <nicklas_> i am sorry, that wasnt meant as an offense, just a joke, didnt know people would get so angry, wont do it again
[00:02] <nanotube> Blankman: just use gparted, and reformat the partition....
[00:03] <nanotube> Blankman: or if you're into cli, fdisk and mkfs :)
[00:03] <dragon> jrib: thanks. What if I don't have a URL and only want to launch the browser, with possibly the default home page?
[00:03] <jrib> erUSUL, salmiak: I think it was libavutil-unstripped-49
[00:03] <ncfi1013> do i go to my router to change the port or to kopete to change the port cuz i cant find where to change the port in kopete?
[00:03] <Blankman> nanotube, I am new to linux, but have enjoyed ubuntu, but I am still a newbie.  I am having an issue with gparted.
[00:04] <jrib> dragon: does www-browser do what you want?
[00:04] <jdn929> hi
[00:04] <sebsebseb> Blankman: What's the issue?
[00:04] <sebsebseb> !hi |  jdn929
[00:04] <jrib> dragon: also, gnome-www-browser seems to exist on my ubuntu install (wasn't in my current system) :)
[00:04] <jdn929> I am trying to make a graph in open office and I am completely stuck. can someone please help me and walk me through it?
[00:04] <jrib> !ooo | jdn929
[00:04] <Flannel> jrib, dragon; x-www-browser, or sensible-browser
[00:05] <jdn929> i know how to install in jrib
[00:05] <jrib> jdn929: take a look at the last sentence
[00:05] <jdn929> jrib I have been in there for a while and no one is helping me
[00:05] <sebsebseb> Blankman: What's the matter with Gparted?
[00:05] <jrib> salmiak: there are some other "unstripped" packages like libavcodec-unstripped-52 that you might try
[00:05] <Blankman> it says it can't mount a drive?  not sure what that is about.
[00:06] <Blankman> When I try to apply the change it gives me an error and sys it count mount a drive.
[00:06] <jrib> jdn929: you have to be patient, not all channels are as active as this one.  That channel is more likely to be able to help with your question though (you're still free to wait here too)
[00:06] <dragon> Flannel: that's what I was looking for, thanks.
[00:06] <sebsebseb> Blankman: When your on the Live CD?
[00:06] <erUSUL> jrib: salmiak in medibuntu there is only mencoder; sorry for the noise
[00:06] <Blankman> yes
[00:07] <peery> hey guys, does anyone know how to solve the problem of ubuntu hanging on NIS? Once I log in, everything is fine but it causes problems during start-up. I've found evidence of this problem online but no solutions. Any ideas?
[00:07] <dragon> jrib: www-browser seemed to launch w3m; x-www-browser worked.
[00:07] <sebsebseb> Blankman: Ok so there are currently partitions on it?
[00:07] <Blankman> yes
[00:07] <jrib> argh
[00:07] <sebsebseb> Blankman:  Windows partitions or?
[00:07] <Blankman> yes I have partition on it.
[00:08] <Blankman> one is a windows, one is a linux swap and one is an linux partition.
[00:08] <sebsebseb> Blankman: and you want to get rid of all of these partitions?
[00:08] <lupita> hi, I want my Gdesklet to be always on top, how to I do this? I'm using Xubuntu
[00:09] <Blankman> yes, i want to wipe 100% of the drive.  I don't need to over write the drive 5 times or anything, I just want to start fresh.   with 100% of the drive.
[00:10] <Blankman> sebsebseb: yes, i want to wipe 100% of the drive.  I don't need to over write the drive 5 times or anything, I just want to start fresh.   with 100% of the drive.
[00:10] <sebsebseb> Blankman: maybe booting up the Live CD again will help
[00:10] <sebsebseb> Blankman: also there's a Gparted Live CD
[00:10] <sebsebseb> !gparted |  Blankman
[00:10] <IpSe_DiXiT> hi, if i restart my windows manager the system gets stuck, whatz going on? how can i find out? thanks
[00:11] <timbojimbo> hey I am trying to tweak my ubuntu to run faster. does any one know a good, recent, reference I could use to achieve my goal of "Fastest Old Computer!"
[00:11] <Blankman> thanks sebsebseb
[00:11] <sebsebseb> Blankman: np
[00:11] <jrib> timbojimbo: use a lightweight window manager!
[00:11] <didymous> hello folks, is there a tutorial to install exim and configure it for use with evolution on ubuntu to send mail without using an external server? i will be here waiting on the eventuality of an answer, thank you
[00:12] <timbojimbo> jrib: do you have a url you can point me in the direction? or what window manager would you suggest?
[00:13] <stsm> how do i tell denyhosts to use my gmail account to send me reports?
[00:13] <stsm> i wasted the intire evening on this
[00:13] <stsm> didnt achieve anything
[00:13] <alokito> timbojimbo: try dsl
[00:13] <stsm> i would appreciate some help
[00:13] <stsm> pretty frustrated
[00:13] <nanotube> didymous: if you google "exim evolution" you'll probably come up with whatever is out there...
[00:13] <didymous> nanotube: will try
[00:13] <sebsebseb> Blankman: good luck
[00:14] <timbojimbo> alokito: I actually have dsl on a usb stick that I use at school and work...
[00:14] <jrib> timbojimbo: well you should check out tiling window managers like xmonad, awesome, and dwm.  But if you don't like tiling, there are other lightweight window managers (fluxbox, openbox, etc...).  Really, if you want fast, then use light software (lots of terminal stuff, etc.)
[00:14] <stsm> mysql replicqtion, no problem, ssh reverse port forwarding, no problem... setting up denyhosts to mail trough gmail: HUUUUUGE problem
[00:14] <Blankman> Any opinion on how big I should make my linux swap file?
[00:14] <sebsebseb> Blankman: How much RAM do you have?
[00:14] <alokito> timbojimbo: i think its the fastest linux distro
[00:14] <Blankman> 2gig
[00:15] <sebsebseb> Blankman: 4GB  SWAP I think then
[00:15] <stsm> 1.5xamount of RAM is mostly chosen
[00:15] <jrib> !swap | Blankman
[00:15] <stsm> 1.5x amount of RAM
[00:15] <jrib> Blankman: I'll throw in a third suggestion... = amount of RAM
[00:15] <nhasian> Blankman, I have 2 gig ram, and 2 gig swap file and my laptop runs great
[00:15] <stsm> yeah
[00:15] <stsm> if you only have 2GB i would take 2GB too
[00:15] <stsm> for swap
[00:15] <alokito> timbojimbo: you can use xubuntu in old computers
[00:15] <stsm> 1GB is nothing these days anyway
[00:16] <stsm> semi-old
[00:16] <sebsebseb> Blankman: some say  SWAP is only really needed for hibernation these days,  as long as got like 1GB or more RAM,    others say still needed even with 4GB RAM,  basicalley
[00:16] <alokito> i use in mine, runs fast enough to run multiple apps at the same time
[00:17] <timbojimbo> alokito: I heard arch linux is good too. but I'm not looking to switch distro's. although I might in the next couple of months...
[00:17] <sebsebseb> timbojimbo: Arch Linux is not that easy to set up properly
[00:17] <EricTheHax> is it better to run wine or a xp virtualbox
[00:17] <sebsebseb> EricTheHax: depends what Windows programs you want to run, and those are?
[00:17] <EricTheHax> games
[00:17] <alokito> timbojimbo: have u tried xubuntu yet? I think you'll be satisfied with it
[00:17] <EricTheHax> gmod hl2 etc
[00:18] <sebsebseb> EricTheHax: 3D Games ???
[00:18] <Biovore> hl2 works decent under wine
[00:18] <EricTheHax> ok
[00:18] <Biovore> not great though..
[00:18] <stsm> pfff
[00:18] <stsm> does nobody use denyhosts or something?
[00:18] <timbojimbo> fair enough...
[00:18] <EricTheHax> ok hl2: wine vs vbox
[00:18] <Biovore> stsm: /etc/hosts.deny ?
[00:18] <rawrs> hello
[00:19] <EricTheHax> hello rawrs
[00:19] <alokito> EricTheHax: try crossover and playonlinux
[00:19] <sebsebseb> EricTheHax: Virtualbox 3.0+  has some  Directx8  support or whatever,  and so might be good for some 3D games, depending on hardware or whatever,   you can get proper info about this by asking in #vbox
[00:19] <sebsebseb> EricTheHax: above I meant Direct3D
[00:19] <alokito> installing games with wine is pretty hard
[00:19] <jrib> alokito: not really, just follow appdb
[00:19] <stsm> Biovore, http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net/
[00:19] <EricTheHax> crossover makes steam invisible for me
[00:20] <EricTheHax> i dunno if anyone else has better luck but i got teh suxxors outta crossover
[00:20] <timbojimbo> alokito: I have and I actually installed it on an older computer than mine.  my computer runs fast already I just want to boost it a little more. I'm mostly trying to make it faster at opening applications like Amarok, Open Office,  Mail, Etc...
[00:20] <linuxgeek25> crossover and cedega are craps
[00:20] <stsm> it cant do SSL so it needs a MTA etc
[00:20] <jdn929> I am trying to make a graph in open office and I am completely stuck. can someone please help me and walk me through it?
[00:20] <rawrs> is there a way to apply a custom ip and dns automatically when connecting to a wifi network?
[00:20] <alokito> playonlinux is just a gui frontend of wine
[00:20] <linuxgeek25> wine or nothing !!!
[00:20] <stsm> and then the MTA is also impossible to get to work of course
[00:20] <stsm> my port 25 is not even open
[00:20] <stsm> its just all a gigantic mess
[00:20] <alokito> timbojimbo: amarok and openoffice both use lot of memory
[00:21] <linuxgeek25> playonlinux may cause incompatibilities ...
[00:21] <alokito> use lightweight apps instead, like banshee and abiword
[00:21] <sebsebseb> EricTheHax: Wine and Crossover  and Cedega even, will all need to be configured to get some  Windows games working rather well.  By the way there are some pretty good  native Linux games as well, you just got to know where to get them from and that.
[00:21] <stsm> they should really simpligy kmailing from the CLI a WHOLE LOT
[00:21] <EricTheHax> wine: it's got antioxidants to keep ur computer runnin windows apps smoothly
[00:21] <stsm> simplify
[00:21] <attickid> Hello, I need help with my wireless connection.I installed ubuntu 9.04 and Im unable to connect neither using the netwrok manager nor using iwconfig.
[00:21] <EricTheHax> sebsebseb: my friend only plays gmod
[00:21] <Jordan_U> rawrs: Yes, System > Preferences > Networking, just set up a profile for that network with static ip and dns
[00:22] <sebsebseb> attickid: ok wireless is not my area, but this bot link might be helpful for you
[00:22] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  attickid
[00:22] <rawrs> is that the only way/
[00:22] <EricTheHax> sebsebsebsebsebsebsebsebsebseb
[00:22] <attickid> ok Thank you
[00:22] <timbojimbo> alokito: I don't really like banshee but I will check out abiword
[00:22] <stsm> attickid, does iwconfig show your interface though?
[00:22] <nanotube> rawrs: try using wicd instead of network-manager. it supports static ip/dns  (http://wicd.net)
[00:23] <alokito> timbojimbo: what about rhythmbox? its my 2nd favorite after amarok
[00:23] <Jordan_U> rawrs: No, but it's the only way to do it with network-manager, what's wrong with "that way" ?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> EricTheHax: yes?
[00:23] <losher> EricTheHax: that's some stutter you've got there...
[00:23] <EricTheHax> screw it is there an up-to-date steam friends plugin for pidgin?
[00:23] <sebsebseb> EricTheHax: don't think so
[00:23] <EricTheHax> dammit
[00:24] <attickid> stsm: yes, I even did: "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" and I got the ESSID and other data about the wlan I want to connect to
[00:24] <ncfi1013> what would the application name be for a port on a router for kopete be: telnet, http, https, ftp, dns, smtp, pop3, h.323, remote desktop, pptp, l2tp, or wake-on-lan?
[00:24] <MsG> does it matter that the drive of ubuntu isn't physically the first hard drive?
[00:24] <sebsebseb> EricTheHax: might be though,  I don't use steam by the way, so not entirely sure what  you mean by  a  steam friends plugin,  I assume for a contact list
[00:24] <MsG> it is sdc but I want it to have sda
[00:24] <Jordan_U> MsG: It shouldn't matter
[00:24] <stsm> attickid, i must go but it might be usefull to paste the command (CENSOR YOUR KEY though)
[00:25] <alokito> MsG: no it doesn't matter if you configured your bootloader correctly
[00:25] <EricTheHax> to use steam chat through pidgin. there used to be one but valve didnt like that so they changed their shit
[00:25] <jdn929> I am trying to make a graph in open office and I am completely stuck. can someone please help me and walk me through it?
[00:25] <MsG> if I want it really to be sda without a device map I should change my sata cable order?
[00:25] <Blankman> Dose ubuntu offer a version that runs out of ram and does not mount hard drives?
[00:25] <EricTheHax> livecd
[00:25] <MsG> live cd?
[00:26] <alokito> MsG: nope change hard disk priority from bios
[00:26] <aliendude5300> Hi, I have a problem with my speakers and I was wondering if anyone could help me...
[00:26] <sebsebseb> EricTheHax: Steam is closed source isn't it?   if so well there you go,   the  vender decides to change something major,  and as a user/proggrammer there isn't really anything you can do about it
[00:26] <timbojimbo> alokito: I honestly can't stand rhythmbox. that program drives me nuts. I almost always have problems with pulseaudio or oss when I use it. I also I have a really big collection which rhythmbox never seems to get all of it. It usually only loads a half one time then the other half another. then none at all...
[00:26] <stsm> attickid, and errors too of course
[00:26] <attickid> stsm: iwconfig wlan0 essid hourglass key s:XXXXXXXXX " . then I did "sudo dhclient wlan0"
[00:26] <aliendude5300> I have 5.1 Surround sound hooked up to my PC.
[00:26] <Jordan_U> MsG: Why do you want it to be sda? Depending on your reason you might want to look into uuids or labels instead.
[00:26] <MsG> but my hdd priority in bios is already in the right order. But it still initializes the ubuntu hdd as the second
[00:26] <jwormy> is there a way I can see the drivers used for my network card?
[00:26] <alokito> timbojimbo: o, okay :|
[00:26] <aliendude5300> My front speakers work fine but my rear speakers are VERY quiet.
[00:26] <attickid> stsm: Im pretty sure of the essid and key, cause Ive just got connected in my windows machine.
[00:26] <stsm> attickid, and dhclient output?
[00:26] <Jordan_U> jwormy: lshw -c network
[00:26] <aliendude5300> How can I adjust the volume for just the rear speakers
[00:26] <ncfi1013> what would the application name be for a port on a router for kopete be: telnet, http, https, ftp, dns, smtp, pop3, h.323, remote desktop, pptp, l2tp, or wake-on-lan?
[00:27] <Maritim> aliendude5300: check how many channels alsamixer is using
[00:27] <timbojimbo> alokito: thanks for the suggestions though!
[00:27] <scyx> does anyone have any information on the "ubuntu moblin remix"? just heard of it and it definitely sounds interesting =o
[00:27] <MsG> Because I have some kind of autistic perfectionistic bullcrap inside me that tells me to be the first drive the first name :)
[00:27] <losher> MsG: you may have to physically reorder the disks to get them labelled differently...
[00:27] <Blankman> I can use puppy linux, but it would be nice if there was an ubuntu that runs out of ram.
[00:27] <aliendude5300> I'm using pulseaudio... the speakers are ON, just QUIET.
[00:27] <alokito> aliendude5300: are u using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[00:27] <aliendude5300> Ubuntu.
[00:27] <MsG> when I do it now, my install will be dead I guess?
[00:27] <Maritim> aliendude5300: sounds like pulseaudio is not set to use 4 channels.
[00:27] <jwormy> Jordan_U: perfect, thanks
[00:27] <alokito> aliendude5300: check your mixer settings
[00:27] <Jordan_U> jwormy: np
[00:28] <aliendude5300> No, all the channels are outputting sound... they are just quiet... the profile is set to 5.1
[00:28] <attickid> stsm: http://www.copypastecode.com/11358/
[00:28] <timbojimbo> Blankman: you know you can run a live disk right?
[00:28] <aliendude5300> I dont know where I can adjust channel volumes individually
[00:28] <alokito> aliendude5300: im in kubuntu now so can't say how to configure in gnome
[00:28] <Blankman> timbojimbo: yep, but that does not run 100% out of ram.  if there is a hard drive it mounts.
[00:28] <stsm> attickid, its probably a problem with your key, you can tell it hat kind of key it is
[00:28] <sebsebseb> Blankman: if you got a big enough USB stick you can also run a persistent install from that
[00:28] <aliendude5300> If I turn up the volume, the rear sound fine but the front are REALLY loud :(
[00:28] <Jordan_U> Blankman: knoppix can use toram
[00:28] <stsm> attickid, how many bit, and if its hex, etc
[00:28] <MsG> I hope Ubuntu will soon come up with some visual sudo unlock inside the program itself. Like the default network applet has
[00:28] <aliendude5300> Dunno where the option is.
[00:29] <aliendude5300> I know how to do it in Windows :/
[00:29] <stsm> i dunno the details off the top of my hat but thats most likely the problem since your hardware works fine
[00:29] <losher> that 'autistic perfectionistic bullcrap' is thought to be genetic in origin, and makes people good at detail-oriented work that others can't do...
[00:29] <alokito> aliendude5300: right click your sound icon in the notification area
[00:29] <Blankman> Jordan_U: what is knoppix and what is toram
[00:29] <resno1> hello guys, i am looking for help in getting my sound card working.
[00:29] <EricTheHax> is the compiz frame limiter vsync? if not how do i make compiz use vsync
[00:29] <MsG> :P yeah but I hate it sometimes, because I want everything in perfect order
[00:29] <attickid> stsm: 128 bit wep.
[00:29] <aliendude5300> alokito: I'm in the sound preferences box right now. The option isn't there.
[00:29] <MsG> which isnt always possible
[00:29] <sebsebseb> losher: maybe you should have used auto complete  for that message, so they don't miss it
[00:29] <resno1> when i got to sound preferences, and do a test, i can get sound but it wont play otherwise
[00:29] <alokito> then search the menus, u should find some menu to add channels in the mixer window
[00:29] <MsG> I have the idea that my bios order is different from the ubuntu initialisation order :S
[00:30] <MsG> i had heard of that difference before
[00:30] <alokito> add front, rear and other channels as necessary
[00:30] <stsm> attickid, try removing s: , but im just guessing now
[00:30] <aliendude5300> Where would the mixer be? I'm on 9.10 Alpha 6 if it makes a difference...
[00:30] <Jordan_U> Blankman: Knoppix is a LiveCD distribution ( actually the origional LiveCD ) and has an option "toram" that you enter at boot to load the contents of the CD into ram and run from that so that you can eject the CD
[00:30] <stsm> its probably something trivial liek that
[00:30] <MsG> IRC chat is like having a conversation in a bus :)
[00:30] <Pici> aliendude5300 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[00:30] <MsG> and others too
[00:30] <losher> sebsebseb: MsG: oops. MsG please see my msg above. Thanks sebsebseb
[00:30] <stsm> i didnt use wireless for years so i dunno it anymore, i would need to search myself
[00:30] <Maritim> MsG: at least in #ubuntu :P
[00:30] <attickid> Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A) :. I use ascii phrase
[00:30] <stsm> but i dont have anymore time
[00:30] <stsm> got to go to bed
[00:30] <stsm> someone else can probably help you
[00:30] <aliendude5300> It should be the same on all releases... I dont see the need...
[00:30] <FloodBot2> stsm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:30] <alokito> aliendude5300: im in 9.10 alpha6 too but in kubuntu
[00:30] <sebsebseb> losher: np
[00:31] <stsm> ah ok, sorry im trying to help someone
[00:31] <timbojimbo> Jordan_U: Can you do that with any other distros?
[00:31] <alokito> aliendude5300: gnome might be different in alpha6, dunno
[00:31] <aliendude5300> alokito: The weird thing is I know how to do it in KDE, cause I'm used to KDE 3... I'm switching to GNOME, and everything is different.
[00:31] <Blankman> Jordan_U: ok, I may look at it.  Puppy does it also.  light and small, but it requires more knowledge.
[00:31] <stsm> annoying channel here anyways, what other channels have a floodbot?
[00:31] <aliendude5300> KDE 4 sucks :(
[00:31] <MsG> by physical you mean the sata cables?
[00:31] <Pici> alokito, aliendude5300: 9.10 discussion is offtopic for here, please join #ubuntu+1
[00:31] <MsG> but why is the ubuntu order different from the motherboard one
[00:31] <alokito> aliendude5300: kde3 isn't default anymore
[00:31] <alokito> aliendude5300: I love kde4
[00:32] <sebsebseb> aliendude5300: there's a repo for  KDE 3 that can be added to 9.04,  there's also a 9.04  KDE 3 Remix CD
[00:32] <alokito> when did you try it last?
[00:32] <MsG> I didn't get any of KDE with those plasmoids
[00:32] <MsG> so I ran back to gnome
[00:32] <Jordan_U> timbojimbo: Many, the ones I know of are knoppix, Damn Small Linux, sidux and puppy linux
[00:32] <alokito> it was very unstable in 4.0
[00:32] <Blankman> someone at work said that mint just released an xfce version of mint7 and he said it has a ram only option.
[00:32] <Pici> !offtopic
[00:33] <Crash1hd> can I auto commit a folder? I have this /usr/bin/svn commit /home/user/backups but its not working
[00:33]  * aliendude5300 is now in ubuntu+1
[00:34] <Blankman> Jordan_U: , thanks
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Blankman: np
[00:34] <revenge> Ok, my Flash sound on youtube , etc is totally broken...I am all out of answers, i really need help
[00:34] <DryGrain> hiredgoon, I have just installed Ubuntu on a separate partition from XP Home on my desktop. How do I get to the files on my Windows partition from Ubuntu?
[00:34] <Jordan_U> Crash1hd: You might want to look at some version controll backup solutions like etckeeper
[00:35] <DryGrain> What I'd really like is a DOS prompt
[00:35] <alokito> revenge: reinstall flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-installer from synaptic
[00:35] <MsG> when I have ubuntu now on /dev/sdb and when I physically reorder the things so that the windows/ubuntu hdd will be /dev/sda instead of sdb, will my current install be broken?
[00:36] <EricTheHax> will source sdk faceposer function well, with the speech thing and all, in ubuntu 9.04 with wine?
[00:36] <Flannel> MsG: Why do you want to reorder them?
[00:36] <Jordan_U> MsG: It shouldn't be, Ubuntu uses UUIDs wherever possible
[00:36] <uwall-e> can anyone point me a link or tell me how to configure grub ?
[00:37] <EricTheHax> does ANYONE here use source sdk
[00:37] <Jordan_U> !grub | uwall-e
[00:37] <Dominik2> Ubuntu does this really neat thing were it turns off my external HDD, I like it : ), the problem is that if I boot ubuntu with my drive pluged in it will NEVER turn it off :( why? how do I fix? I know theres gotta be a file for it somewhere :P
[00:37] <uwall-e> i installed debain and it didnt show up as an option
[00:38] <DryGrain> I have just installed Ubuntu on a separate partition from XP Home on my desktop. How do I get to the files on my Windows partition from Ubuntu, and how to I get to a MS-DOS prompt from Ubuntu?
[00:38] <losher> MsG: depends on the labelling scheme used in /boot/grub/menu.lst and /etc/fstab. It it uses uuids, then it should still 'just' work...
[00:38] <EricTheHax> ok rephrase: I have an application that, in windows, requires speech sdk. will it work in wine?
[00:38] <alokito> uwall-e: u can manually add the option in ubuntu's grub
[00:38] <uwall-e> iv used grub alot but never had to really manually add an OS from skratch like this !
[00:38] <Pici> EricTheHax: Best to ask in Wine's official support channel, #winehq
[00:38] <uwall-e> in grub menu l.st
[00:38] <Flannel> uwall-e: You can copy an Ubuntu entry and modify it easily enough
[00:38] <MsG> I want to reorder them because I hate it that my first drive isnt really the first drive
[00:38] <uwall-e> ?
[00:38] <Dominik2> DryGrain I don't think you can get a prompt, and I assume your file system is NTSF which will cause torouble, but you should be able to mount it
[00:38] <Jordan_U> uwall-e: What version of debian ( stable, testing, unstable)?
[00:38] <MsG> same idea in windows. When I go to disk manage thingy in windows, I see my data drive above my OS drive
[00:39] <uwall-e> i think 5
[00:39] <MsG> how annoying is that
[00:39] <DryGrain> How do i mount my windows partition?
[00:39] <DryGrain> Couldnt I get an MSDOS prompt with WINE?
[00:39] <MsG> just double click in computer
[00:39] <sjoos> DryGrain: install dosemu
[00:39] <EricTheHax> is the wine support channel on this network?
[00:39] <Pici> !wine | DryGrain
[00:39] <sebsebseb> EricTheHax: yes
[00:39] <IdleOne> #winehq
[00:39] <Pici> EricTheHax: yes
[00:39] <uwall-e> testing i386 netinst
[00:39] <EricTheHax> whats it called
[00:39] <losher> Dominik2: the hdparm command allows you to spin down a drive, usually after an idle period...
[00:39] <DryGrain> What is dosemu?
[00:39] <Pici> EricTheHax: #winehq
[00:39] <Flannel> MsG: You can simply reorder them via GRUB if you want, software can take care of it, no need for the hardware to change.
[00:39] <EricTheHax> tyvm
[00:39]  * nit is away: Gone away for now
[00:39] <uwall-e>  i liked ubuntu alot and figured i would try debian
[00:40] <Jordan_U> uwall-e: First try just running "sudo update-grub"
[00:40] <Pici> !away > nit
[00:40] <MsG> yeah but Im talking about the sda/sdd/sdc etc order, and the order in windows disk manager
[00:40] <Dominik2> losher how do I apply this on boot?
[00:40] <MsG> not the visual list order :) thats okay
[00:40] <uwall-e> after the update should i just try restarting?
[00:40] <sobi> Where can i find config-file on my file system for grub 1.97 included in Kubuntu 9.10 alpha6 ?
[00:40] <MsG> its just whining about nothing, but thats me :P
[00:40] <Pici> sobi : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[00:40] <DryGrain> How do I mount my windows partition?
[00:41] <Flannel> MsG: right, you can remap them in software so that sda looks like sdb and vice versa
[00:41] <scyx> does anyone have any information on the "ubuntu moblin remix"? just heard of it and it definitely sounds interesting =o
[00:41] <uwall-e> when i installed debian it wanted to install grub 2 but then failed i think!
[00:41] <revenge> alokito, can you tell me how to properly uninstall all flash and do that?
[00:41] <Jordan_U> uwall-e: You can look at the file /boot/grub/menu.lst or pastebin it and we can tell you if debian was added ( rebooting would work also )
[00:41] <MsG> yeah but thats kind of a surrogate ;). I think I will physical reorder them once
[00:41] <MsG> thx for the help tho
[00:41] <losher> Dominik2: add a line to /etc/rc.local (creating it if necessary). Something like hdparm -S 240 /dev/sdc
[00:42] <Dominik2> losher where sdc is my external drive right?
[00:42] <alokito> revenge: reinstalling a package will automatically uninstall it and then reinstall it freshly
[00:42] <alokito> revenge: open synaptic and find the packages flashplugin-nonfree and flashplugin-installer, then right click on them an select reinstall
[00:42] <losher> Dominik2: right, whatever it's named on your system. Not sure if it works with externals actually...
[00:42] <uwall-e> thanks for this i will try now! what im confussed on is the kernel intrid?
[00:43] <Etu> Hi, I trying to install Ubuntu 9.10 from the dayly buid ISO I found here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/
[00:43] <Pici> Etu : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[00:43] <MsG> lol I knew it, but i cant find it atm, where do I change my pointer?
[00:43] <uwall-e> im going to read some things! thank you again!
[00:44] <revenge> alokito, ok
[00:44] <Dominik2> losher I tryed to issue standby command but it failed ? ?
[00:45] <losher> MsG: just once could you actually address a message to a recipient...
[00:45] <revenge> alokito, still no go :\
[00:45] <MsG> it wasn't specific to someone
[00:45] <alokito> revenge: reinstalled?
[00:45] <alokito> revenge: what browser are u using?
[00:45] <MsG> but how? :P
[00:45] <alokito> restart your browser then try again
[00:45] <losher> Dominik2: not all devices support the command. And I dunno if it works over usb. You need to do some googling...
[00:46] <dozer> I did an update a few days ago for karmic, and now it won't boot
[00:46] <_Cyrano_De_Z> Got 9.04 installed on my new E6500 Dell.
[00:46] <Dominik2> losher: interestign cause it does it automatically, so long as I didn't boot with the drive in
[00:46] <revenge> alokito, mozilla firefox
[00:46] <Jordan_U> !KARMIC | dozer
[00:46] <thiebaude> _Cyrano_De_Z, is it working good?
[00:46] <dozer> init: hwclock main process(835) terminated with status 1
[00:46] <chadwin_> those any one knows how to update ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10.....im using wubi
[00:47] <alokito> revenge: restart browser
[00:47] <chadwin_> does
[00:47] <Cyrano_De1> So far it is working great.
[00:47] <revenge> alokito, i did
[00:47] <Flannel> !upgrade | chadwin_
[00:47] <thiebaude> !wubi
[00:47] <bmwracer0> !rpm
[00:47] <Flannel> chadwin_: Just like a regular install
[00:47] <chadwin_> ok thanks
[00:47] <chadwin_> im using wubi
[00:47] <losher> Dominik2: are you sure it's not just a matter of whether it gets mounted or not?
[00:47] <Cyrano_De1> Getting all my much needed tools installed now.
[00:47] <Flannel> chadwin_: Wubi doesn't matter, you upgrade the same as anyone else.
[00:47] <alokito> revenge: try with the deb package from adobe site
[00:48] <revenge> i did that too
[00:48] <Dominik2> losher: yea for example, I can unmount it and then remount it and it will turn of in like 30 sec
[00:48] <chadwin_> so i have to do a fresh install?
[00:48] <revenge> alokito, im telling you i have tried just about everything
[00:48] <alokito> sudo apt-get uninstall flashplugin-nonfree b4 installing the adobe deb
[00:48] <losher> MsG: use your tab key...
[00:48] <losher> Dominik2: so what error message do you get from hdparm ?
[00:48] <DigitalKiwi> el oh el, the bot banned the other bot, that's hilarious =D
[00:48] <Dominik2> losher: itbasically said it couldn't communicate with it
[00:49] <O__o> hi guys what is the dictionary in ubuntu called?
[00:49] <thiebaude> chadwin_,not if your doing wubi
[00:49] <MsG> test
[00:49] <thiebaude> he left
[00:49] <MsG> tab doesn't do anything :|
[00:49] <losher> Dominik2: I'd like to see the exact text if possible...
[00:49] <MsG> sorry
[00:49] <revenge>  sudo apt-get uninstall flashplugin-nonfree doesnt work
[00:49] <alokito> !flash | revenge
[00:49] <Dominik2> losher: one sec im getting it
[00:49] <Cyrano_De1> O__o: aspell is one.
[00:49] <Flannel> chadwin: No, just upgrade like normal.
[00:49] <alokito> revenge: then u dont have it installed
[00:50] <losher> MsG: most clients will autocomplete names if you type a few characters then hit tab. If yours doesn't, you need a better client...
[00:50] <lucyB> hi
[00:50] <O__o> Cyrano_De1, not the spell checker
[00:50] <alokito> !hi lucyB
[00:50] <lucyB> can someone help me use dban?
[00:50] <MsG>  I use pidgin
[00:50] <revenge> alokito, i installed it in synaptic
[00:50] <alokito> !hi | lucyB
[00:50] <Maritim> 01:49 [Freenode] DCC SEND from _lilo [0.0.0.0 port 0]: STARTKEYLOGGER [0B bytes] requested in channel #ubuntu <- ehm.. someone trying to be funny?
[00:50] <Dominik2> losher: http://pastebin.com/m1c9b7efc
[00:50] <jpds> Maritim: Yes, don't repeat it.
[00:50] <O__o> Cyrano_De1, i am at the terminal want to open the dictionary, but i dont know what the file name is called
[00:50] <losher> MsG: never used it, sorry...
[00:50] <LjL> !feeding the troll
[00:50] <alokito> revenge: if you installed in synaptic then sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree should remove it
[00:51] <Dominik2> Cyrano_De1 dir ?
[00:51] <Maritim> jpds: I assume it's been taken care of. Just thought I'd mention it in case it hadn't been dealt with
[00:51] <txzlegend> blasted
[00:51] <Cyrano_De1> O__o: aspell-en is the dictionary that gets install by default.
[00:51] <jpds> Maritim: By me about 10 seconds earlier. ;)
[00:51] <lucyB> I am trying to use dban, but whan I load it up is runs in about a minutes and says its done, but when I check it with gparted, the partitions are still there.  usualy it takes hours.  I just need to do the quick format, but it clearly not doing it. I Need to install ubuntu on my old desk top and want to get rid of all the old files.  Thanks.
[00:51] <revenge> alokito, ok remmoved it
[00:52] <losher> Dominik2: does hdparm -I /dev/sde work?
[00:52] <EricTheHax> how do i completely disable file send/receiving in pidgin
[00:52] <LjL> jpds: actually, by the bot about 0 seconds later :P
[00:52] <alokito> revenge: now try the deb from adobe site
[00:52] <Cyrano_De1> O__o: /usr/lib/aspell/ is where you will find most of the files you need.
[00:52] <jpds> LjL: I'm only human.
[00:52] <O__o> Cyrano_De1, no i want to open the dictionary
[00:53] <Dominik2> losher is that an I as in IN or I as in LOOSER?
[00:53] <O__o> Cyrano_De1, i am ssh into the linux boc with -X
[00:53] <losher> Dominik2: I as in Indigo...
[00:53] <Dominik2> losher same error
[00:53] <LjL> who *poopman*
[00:53] <DigitalKiwi> why did the bot ban all those people who quit?
[00:53] <losher> Dominik2: are you sure the /dev/sde is correct?
[00:54] <Dominik2> ya
[00:54] <Cyrano_De1> O__o: spell is a commandline utility.
[00:54] <Dominik2> losher: let me check with umount
[00:54] <O__o> Cyrano_De1, i dont want command line
[00:54] <jpds> !exploit | DigitalKiwi
[00:54] <Dominik2> losher: flak it says its not mounted ??
[00:54] <losher> Dominik2: just 'mount' will show mounted devices...
[00:54] <Dominik2> mount
[00:54] <Cyrano_De1> O__o: So what is it you are trying to do?
[00:55] <Dominik2> losher: sde2 .. stupid crap
[00:55] <O__o> Cyrano_De1, open the dictionary.  i  dont know the name of the file
[00:55] <lucyB> anyone use dban?
[00:55] <Dominik2> losher: adressing sde2 still gives same error
[00:55] <alokito> lucyB: dban or debian? :-/
[00:55] <losher> Dominik2: run sudo fdisk -l (that's lower case L) and paste please...
[00:55] <DigitalKiwi> jpds: thanks
[00:55] <revenge> alokito, still nogo
[00:56] <Dominik2> losher what that do?
[00:56] <lucyB> dban, it is used to erase data on a drive.  you can also erase partitions.
[00:56] <losher> Dominik2: it will list all the disks & partitions your system knows about. See man fdisk to confirm...
[00:56] <alokito> revenge: ok then i dunno :|
[00:57] <Dominik2> losher: I only posted sde http://pastebin.com/m3efb18e4 if you want more say so
[00:57] <Pici> lucyB: The Ubuntu installer can format partitions
[00:57] <revenge> alokito how do i upgrade my ubuntu to the new one?
[00:57] <thiebaude> !9.10
[00:57] <Cyrano_De1> O__o: Look in /usr/lib/aspell.  That is where you will find the dictionary files.
[00:58] <pharaoh> I installed XP under virtualbox and now I can't get gnome to load. I just removed virtualbox via apt.  How can I remove the virtual partition where XP is located? is it still installed somewhere.
[00:58] <Pici> revenge: What new one? Karmic isn't released yet.
[00:58] <revenge> oh ok
[00:58] <pharaoh> from the terminal that is.
[00:58] <lucyB> pici, I need to erase all the data on the drive, it was used for windows so I know there is data that is outside of the normal area so if just format the partiions, that data will stay.  I want to erase the whole drive.
[00:59] <losher> Dominik2: if hdparm can't talk to the disk, I guess I'm out of ideas, sorry. Is unmounting the disk then remounting it again via /etc/rc.local a possible workaround?
[00:59] <Jordan_U> pharaoh: I doubt that the virtual machine is whats preventing gnome from starting
[00:59] <Pici> lucyB: If you partition the entire disk you can format all the spots that you've created a partition on.
[00:59] <sebsebseb> pharaoh: Gnome and Virtualbox are seperate
[00:59] <alokito> !upgrade | revenge
[01:00] <sebsebseb> pharaoh: What do you mean exactly Gnome won't load?
[01:00] <pharaoh> sorry.  I am assuming that the reason gnome isnt' starting is because I don't have much space left on my HD.
[01:00] <thiebaude> pharaoh, how much space did you install ubuntu on?
[01:00] <pharaoh> When I log in, the screen goes black as if gnome is starting up but then it goes right back tot he login screen.
[01:00] <sebsebseb> pharaoh: How big is your hard disk?
[01:01] <Jordan_U> pharaoh: Have you tried the failsaf gnome session?
[01:01] <thiebaude> pharaoh, a live cd install of ubuntu 9.04 needs at least 4gb
[01:01] <losher> lucyB: the need to erase disks is overrated usually, but does this help: http://linuxhelp.blogspot.com/2006/06/how-to-securely-erase-hard-disk-before.html
[01:01] <pharaoh> ubuntu jaunty is installed on 8GB, I have only about 400mb left or so.
[01:01] <thiebaude> eww
[01:01] <pharaoh> the failsafe did the exact same thing.
[01:01] <MsG> how can I change the imo annoying toggle system of the Show Desktop button
[01:01] <MsG> previously it was just show desktop
[01:01] <sebsebseb> pharaoh: ok a bad partition set up
[01:02] <pharaoh> it was working fine until I installed VB and installed XP on it.
[01:02] <sebsebseb> pharaoh: well  8GB is ok  if it's just / and that, no /home in there
[01:02] <Dominik2> losher: what is the meaning of /etc/rc.local directory?
[01:02] <aboanas93> hello
[01:02] <sebsebseb> pharaoh: yes XP will take up about 5GB or so
[01:02] <aboanas93> any help in firfox
[01:02] <lucyB> i really want to format my drive, can someone help me do it.
[01:02] <sebsebseb> pharaoh: Which XP did you put on?  SP1?  SP2? SP3 ?   XP  SP3 is about 5GB
[01:02] <alokito> ! hi | aboanas93
[01:03] <sebsebseb> lucyB: Dban
[01:03] <sebsebseb> lucyB: that will wipe the whole of your hard disk
[01:03] <aboanas93> java applet in firefox
[01:03] <pharaoh> i am able to use the terminal.  I installed Sp2
[01:03] <thiebaude> lucyB, you have the ubuntu install cd?
[01:03] <lucyB> dban, I have heard of that.
[01:03] <lucyB> I think I have a copy.. .hang on.
[01:03] <sebsebseb> lucyB:  yes and I saw you mention it
[01:03] <aboanas93> guys
[01:03] <Jordan_U> pharaoh: I think that virtualbox stores its virtual machines in ~/.Virtualbox, but I still doubt that running out of space is the problem, especially if you have 400 meg free already
[01:03] <pharaoh> Like I said, Ubuntu worked fine until I installed XP through VB.
[01:03] <losher> Dominik2: it's a file. It runs as the last thing in the boot sequence every time the system boots, so it's where people put customisations that they want to run as root once per bootup...
[01:03] <sebsebseb> lucyB: most peopel just  delete the partitions,  there isn't really much of a point doing other stuff, unless your for example going to sell your computer to someone else
[01:04] <pharaoh> well when I run df -h the "Use %" for the fs is 100%
[01:04] <lucyB> I am setting it up for my older sister.
[01:04] <agliodbs> I'm installing tomcat, but it's linking against gcj instead of the java I installed earlier (Sun 6 JRE)
[01:04] <agliodbs> any easy way to fix that?
[01:05] <sebsebseb> lucyB: ok well deleting the partitions with gparted on the live cd, should be fine then, and then installing Ubuntu
[01:05] <Jordan_U> pharaoh: Check ~/.Virtualbox, "sudo apt-get clean" is also a good way to free up some space
[01:05] <lucyB> ok, sebsebseb do you know where i can get instructions on how to use dban?
[01:06] <aboanas93> yo guys
[01:06] <sebsebseb> lucyB: when I tried it,  it was just put the CD in to the computer, and  let it delete stuff
[01:06] <alokito> !ask | aboanas93
[01:07] <aboanas93> okay , about java in firefox
[01:07] <MocArt> åñòü ðóññêèå?
[01:07] <aboanas93> it doesnt work even i install it.
[01:07] <thiebaude> aboanas93, did you install the java plugin for firefox?
[01:07] <alokito> aboanas93: how did you install it?
[01:07] <MocArt> åñòü êòî íèòü ðóññêèé?
[01:08] <mgv1> what does this "Could not download all repository indexes" means? why does it started today without me doing something that may make it happens?
[01:08] <aboanas93> no .
[01:08] <sebsebseb> losher: indeed  at that
[01:08] <aboanas93> im newbie in ubuntu
[01:08] <losher> !ru | MocArt
[01:08] <thiebaude> aboanas93, sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin
[01:08] <lucyB> i hate linux... nothing has documentation or if it is there is it useless.  instead of pushing out new versions they shoudl focuse on improving the documentation on very program included with the operating system.
[01:08] <sebsebseb> lucyB: if a computer  is going to be sold to  strangers,  and has personal information about you on the hard disk some where,  then it's a good idea to wipe out the hard disk properly
[01:08] <alokito> mgv1: are you using karmic?
[01:09] <aboanas93> okay i will try it now, thanks.
[01:09] <Jordan_U> mgv1: It means that one of the repositories you have added cannot be accessed, do you use any third party repos that might be down? Are you having any network problems?
[01:09] <thiebaude> aboanas93, and java will be,  sudo apt-get install java6-jre
[01:09] <lucyB> there is a reason why windows is still being used even if linux is ready for prime time.
[01:09] <sebsebseb> lucyB: if your just giving it to your sister,  I expect it's fine to just delete the partitions  normalley
[01:09] <sebsebseb> lucyB: Dban is also not a LInux program by the way
[01:09] <lucyB> sebsebseb, I need to do it completely.  That is what I need.
[01:09] <Pici> lucyB: This isn't a complaint channel. And we don't support dban here, it is not an Ubuntu program.
[01:09] <aboanas93> after that ,do i have to close firefox?
[01:10] <thiebaude> aboanas93, yes
[01:10] <MocArt> !ru
[01:10] <pharaoh> I keep getting the msg during bootup that "mount: /dev/sr1: unknown device      /dev/sr0: unknown device"   I don't knwo what this is referring to.
[01:10] <alokito> lucyB: linux has a lot more community support than proprietary os
[01:11] <kivo> are there smart tools for linux that have a gui?
[01:11] <thiebaude> aboanas93, did it work?
[01:11] <lucyB> does ubuntu have a program that has the same functionality of dban?
[01:11] <alokito> brb
[01:11] <aboanas93> Your browser does not support applets, or you have disabled applets in your browser settings.
[01:11] <losher> lucyB: I just took a look at DBAN and it looks very well documented. If your reading skills are adequate...
[01:11] <aboanas93> no the same.
[01:11] <jedc> kivo, smart tools?
[01:12] <kivo> jdec you know, smart hard drive monitoring tools?
[01:12] <ncfi1013> port forwarding tcp and udp ports are both port 80 correct?
[01:12] <sebsebseb> lucyB: also documentation and  help,  it depends on a distro,   Ubuntu has the IRC and forums and that for help,   and it's known to have a good help community
[01:12] <EugenMayer> is there a bacula wxWidget client for Bacula under ubuntu?
[01:13] <kivo> jedc http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.M.A.R.T.
[01:13] <pharaoh> HD space was the issue to my original problem.  I removed the XP file and then rebooted and i am able to log into Gnome w/ any issues.  Thanks for your help
[01:13] <lucyB> losher, you found the documentation sufficient? well I am just a normal person, not a computer pro
[01:14] <losher> kivo: there is gsmartctl. The web page looks down right now, but google had a cached copy -- http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:Y8wgAM8VGYQJ:ubuntu-unleashed.com/2008/10/gsmartcontrol-hard-disk-drive-health-inspection-tool.html+gsmartctl&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
[01:14] <losher> lucyB: there is also a shred command, please look again at the link I posted earlier...
[01:15] <meanieface> hey guys did anyone else get this?
[01:15] <MocArt> hi, everybody, i have one question: i want to send traffic over squid transparent, but i can`t do it, i can`t write rule in iptables: but i have variant: it is: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp -s 192.168.44.0/24 --dport 80 -d ! 192.168.44.100/255.255.255.252 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 3128 eth0 - internet, 192.168.44.0/24 my network, how i do it?
[01:15] <meanieface> ~Warning: Port sent with DCC request is a lowport (0, unknown) - this isn't normal. It is possible the address/port is  faked (or maybe someone is just trying to bypass firewall)~
[01:15] <meanieface> 19:49 ~DCC SEND from _lilo [0.0.0.0 port 0]: STARTKEYLOGGER [0B bytes] requested in channel #ubuntu~
[01:15] <meanieface> 19:54 ~DCC aborted receiving file STARTKEYLOGGER from _lilo~
[01:15] <LjL> !exploit | meanieface
[01:15] <Cyrano_De1> meanieface: Yes
[01:15] <LjL> meanieface: plse, don't repeat the text of that
[01:16] <meanieface> sorry
[01:16] <jdn929> hi
[01:16] <DryGrain> How do I go about mounting my windows partition
[01:16] <jdn929> does anyone know how to calculate the Line of Best Fit in open office Calc?
[01:17] <losher> DryGrain: do you know it's device name?
[01:17] <ncfi1013> port forwarding tcp and udp ports are both port 80 correct?
[01:17] <Pici> !who
[01:17] <MocArt> yes
[01:17] <SpacePigeon> does anybody know of a good video about ubuntu moblin remix?
[01:17] <DryGrain> I do not losher
[01:17] <losher> DryGrain: ok, open a terminal and type sudo fdisk -l (that's a lowercase L) and pastebin the output....
[01:18] <Trizicus> Is there a log file that I can tail -f and see immediate hardware info.?
[01:18] <meanieface> thank you LjL
[01:18] <Jordan_U> Trizicus: dmesg ?
[01:18] <Trizicus> where is it located?
[01:18] <Jordan_U> Trizicus: It's a command
[01:18] <Trizicus> /var/adm/dmesg?
[01:19] <Trizicus> i know that but i want to monitor it in realtime
[01:19] <Cyrano_De1> What does putty in ubuntu get you that is not already there in an xterm?
[01:19] <keith> /var/log/dmesg?
[01:19] <DryGrain> oh my
[01:19] <Trizicus> keith: !
[01:19] <dalia> Hi guys I have a question for you, how can I share my ubuntu internet connection with winxp
[01:19] <kivo> losher Hhhmmm... I get this error when trying to run it, I should have mentioned I'm running 9.04 64 from a live cd. " Failed to execute child process "su-to-root" (No such file or directory) "
[01:20] <dalia> It's really a PITA
[01:20] <dalia> hello?
[01:20] <losher> kivo: personally I'd try a more stable livecd. 8.04 32 bit rarely fails...
[01:21] <Trizicus> hm dmesg | tail -f supposedly works... didn't think it'd be that simple (if it works) lol
[01:21] <DryGrain> it seems that i dont have a windows partiton anymore!
[01:21]  * DryGrain mourns his loss of data
[01:21] <losher> Trizicus: I never found dmesg worked with tail -f, though you'd want it to. I had to resort to running dmesg repeatedly...
[01:22] <dalia> Any helpfull soul up there?
[01:22] <keith> kivo: I had the same error for a package that was solved by installing "menu" I think. Not sure if that is your problem though.
[01:22] <ncfi1013> port forwarding tcp and udp ports are both port 80 correct?
[01:22] <sebsebseb> dalia: Samba is for sharing files with Windows, and  printers can also be shared
[01:22] <agliodbs> dalia: explain what you want to share and what your machine setup is
[01:22] <kivo> keith menu?
[01:23] <thiebaude> !samba
[01:23] <dalia> seb: I can connect to windows and I can share files but I can't share internet
[01:23] <losher> DryGrain: you installed ubuntu after windows I assume. Usually that preserves the windows installation. Are you sure it's gone? Can I see your sudo fdisk -l output?
[01:23] <keith> kivo, it's in the repositories. The description says "generates programs menu for all menu-aware applications"
[01:23] <dalia> I tried firestarter in vain
[01:24] <durt> ncfi1013, depends what you want to do.
[01:24] <keith> kivo, all I know is sbackup needs it to run properly
[01:24] <agliodbs> dalia: see my quesiton above
[01:24] <Jordan_U> dalia: Network manager can do internet sharing
[01:24] <Trizicus> watch dmesg seems to be doing nice
[01:24] <keith> kivo, it gives the same error if it's not installed.
[01:25] <pelmen> hey guys anyone tried the new skype, i keep losing mic sound with it
[01:25] <dalia> agliodbs: I have to computers in one of them Ubuntu is the host with two NICs one connected to the internet and he other one is wired to a network box, the second pc has winxp connected to the network
[01:25] <Trizicus> however i am trying to figure out what /dev/ a certain piece of hardware is. For example cdrom I know is /dev/cdrom however where is it in the log files that tells me this when I put in a new CD for example?
[01:25] <losher> Trizicus: what kind of hardware? Is it removable?
[01:26] <Trizicus> I'm doing cd atm
[01:26] <timClicks> hi all, my ALSA setup seems wrong - it's not providing other applications (such as games) access to my audio device
[01:26]  * kivo yay... 14kbps from ubuntu repos...
[01:26] <Trizicus> i know it's /dev/cdrom but i want to be able to find this in the log files where do i start
[01:26] <timClicks> any suggestions?
[01:26] <losher> Trizicus: dmesg | egrep -i cdrom  <-- something like this?
[01:27] <agliodbs> dalia: then you want to use network manager to set up your ubuntu box like it was a router
[01:27] <dalia> how I do that agliodbs, I'm using ubuntu 9.04
[01:27] <Trizicus> ok in this case it is hdc so i could technically mount /dev/hdc?
[01:28] <losher> !ics | dalia
[01:28] <Jordan_U> dalia: System > Preferences > Networking, set the interface you want to share to to "shared"
[01:28] <Xpl0it> I have a question that I am sure I am not the first to ask... when  I sudo how do I edit the $PATH?
[01:28] <jrib> Xpl0it: why?
[01:29] <Xpl0it> need to add something to the $PATH
[01:29] <losher> Trizicus: usually for a cdrom, /dev/cdrom will be an alias for the cdrom device so you can use either that or it's 'real' name...
[01:29] <dalia> Ok, do I have to do soemthing on the winxp client machine?
[01:29] <Xpl0it> and... well I can add it to the /etc/environment
[01:30] <Xpl0it> but when I sudo and do echo $PATH the change is not there
[01:30] <Jordan_U> dalia: No
[01:30] <jrib> Xpl0it: this doesn't answer my question...
[01:30] <Trizicus> losher: okay I got it now. cdrom on here is link to hdc :)
[01:30] <dalia> I put my eth1 which is the one connected to the internet shared with other computers but winxp still not connecting to the net
[01:30] <Xpl0it> sorry jrib
[01:30] <Jordan_U> dalia: Just set it up to use DHCP ( the default )
[01:30] <theblue> Hi all.
[01:30] <durt> Xpl0it, either sudo -i or sudo -s retains env setting, can't remember which...
[01:30] <jrib> Xpl0it: I know that you want to add something to sudo's PATH.  My question is what exactly are you trying to do (so I can tell you if there is a better way)
[01:30] <Noob> Hey
[01:30] <dalia> Jordan_U, I've tried that also
[01:30] <Ziber> -i.
[01:31] <theblue> I've got jaunty on an HP Mini 1035, and there's no sound at all.
[01:31] <Xpl0it> jrib i need to add something in the $PATH so an application can call a script when it runs
[01:31] <Jordan_U> dalia: You want to set the interface connected to the other computer to be shared, *not* the interface connected to the internet
[01:31] <RegressLess> Having trouble removing a program to add another version. Can someone help?
[01:31] <JessD> theblue : Are you using Netbook Remix?
[01:31] <dalia> ok, let me try that
[01:31] <Trizicus> losher: When I put in my flash drive the /var/log/messages was saying it was not supported any reason why?
[01:31] <theblue> JessD: no.
[01:31] <jrib> Xpl0it: why would it need to be in the path?  Just provide the absolute path
[01:31] <Xpl0it> i c
[01:31] <Noob> how can i install firefox-3.5.3.tar.bz2 ?
[01:31] <Jordan_U> Trizicus: Can you pastebin the exact message?
[01:31] <Trizicus> 1 sec
[01:31] <JessD> theblue : I'm running remic on an HP mini 110
[01:32] <Jordan_U> Noob: Why not just install firefox 3.5 from the repositories?
[01:32]  * Xpl0it thinks about this for a minute...
[01:32] <JessD> theblue : I had to set the audio mixer to show all my inputs, then made sure they were all unmuted
[01:32] <dalia> JU: I've tried that but still nothing
[01:33] <Trizicus> this is the error
[01:33] <Trizicus> http://pastebin.com/m429ca3c6
[01:33] <theblue> JessD: everything's unmuted...
[01:33] <Jordan_U> dalia: Try renewing the DHCP lease on the windows machine
[01:33] <Noob> Jordan_U: im using debian and it suggests me to install iceweasel
[01:33] <theblue> Noob: try #debian
[01:33] <Noob> theblue: im coming from there :D
[01:34] <jrib> Xpl0it: to answer your question though, ubuntu compiles sudo with secure-path enabled (see « man sudoers »)
[01:34] <dalia> ju: I have the connections as manual because otherwise it will not share the printer and the files, or I'm wrong?
[01:34] <Xpl0it> ok
[01:34] <JessD> theblue : I know it's not your model, but check this out
[01:34] <JessD> theblue : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#HP%20Mini%201033cl
[01:34] <jrib> Xpl0it: here you go: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/50797
[01:34] <JessD> theblue : You might see if the audio driver referenced supports your card
[01:34] <Noob> well ?
[01:34] <losher> Trizicus: are you running vmware?
[01:34] <Jordan_U> dalia: Please use my full nick or I will miss your messages
[01:34] <Trizicus> Yes :)
[01:35] <losher> Trizicus: you might've mentioned that earlier...
[01:35] <Trizicus> I didn't think it mattered enough
[01:35] <Jordan_U> Noob: "tar -xf filename" then cd to the firefox directory and run ./firefox
[01:35] <Trizicus> i thought there was enough abstraction to be normal kernel error
[01:35] <Jordan_U> !tab | dalia
[01:35] <dalia> Jordan_U, I'm doing dhcp on both pcs to see if it works
[01:35] <Trizicus> VMware 6.5.3 to be exact
[01:35] <ShadowDXS> hi
[01:35] <theblue> JessD: nope.
[01:35] <Noob> Jordan_U: but i want to install :S
[01:36] <theblue> JessD: 1033cl has no drivers listed there.
[01:36] <losher> Trizicus: dunno if this is relevant: http://communities.vmware.com/thread/209645
[01:36] <RegressLess> can someone tell me how to make a program start automatically and be minimized to the taskbar?
[01:36] <JessD> theblue : What model sound card are you using?
[01:36] <Trizicus> losher: what I'm trying to be able to do is learn how to detect devices as I insert them into the system. (which is what I was trying to do with the USB thing) How could I do that? Just dmesg | egrep -i "usb"?
[01:36] <theblue> JessD: i have no clue, but hold on, i might have found something
[01:36] <burntresistor> what is the best way to convert some mkv to mp4s in ubuntu   handbrake seems to slow of simple container swap
[01:37] <JessD> theblue : Try "lspci | grep Audio"
[01:37] <JessD> theblue : Ah, OK
[01:37] <dalia> Jordan_U, now I don't have any connection from the winxp client
[01:37] <ShadowDXS> does anyone here now how to upgrade firefox from 3.0.14 to 3.5.2?
[01:37] <theblue> JessD: Intel 82801G.
[01:37] <thiebaude> !ff35 | ShadowDXS
[01:37] <losher> Trizicus: well that's how I do it, but the proper way to do is via udev I think, which I find very complicated....
[01:37] <JessD> theblue : OK, that's the same model that my unit has
[01:38] <ShadowDXS> just go to the main site?
[01:38] <Jordan_U> dalia: What are the two interfaces on the Ubuntu machine and how are they currently configured?
[01:38] <ShadowDXS> and download 3.5?
[01:38] <JessD> theblue : So the link I sent you is referencing a driver that would work with your sound card
[01:38] <Jordan_U> ShadowDXS: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[01:38] <JessD> theblue : But try the unmute steps first.
[01:38] <theblue> JessD: is that what you used, and could you paste it once more please?
[01:38] <JessD> theblue : Sure : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#HP%20Mini%201033cl
[01:38] <thiebaude> ShadowDXS, yes and i thinks its a .tar file
[01:39] <thiebaude> ShadowDXS, from the firefox website
[01:39] <ShadowDXS> the termail command dont work
[01:39] <theblue> JessD: what does that say for you?
[01:40] <JessD> theblue : What, the link?
[01:40] <dalia> Jordan_U: the eth0 is Manual with and IP address connected to the network box, and eth1 is automatic DHCP connected to the internet router, I'm using 9.04
[01:40] <Trizicus> thanks i will look more into this later :)
[01:40] <JessD> theblue : Bah, wrong link, my bad, one sec!!
[01:40] <Jordan_U> dalia: Set eth0 to "shared"
[01:40] <JessD> theblue : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#HP%20Mini%20110%20/%20Compaq%20Mini%20100c
[01:41] <JessD> theblue : Sorry, try that one
[01:41] <Fohn> Hi. I've gotten a new monitor and input the correct resolution and refresh rates in my xorg.conf file, however these changes do not remain consistent throughout my session changes. My gdm login screen, however, retains the correct resolution. I have to use the proprietary driver to change the resolution, and the change is not permanent. Any ideas? Please do not just get me with ubottu.
[01:41] <theblue> JessD: ah, thanks!
[01:41] <RegressLess> can someone tell me how to make a program start automatically and be minimized to the taskbar? Ubuntu 9.04
[01:41] <dalia> ok, done
[01:41] <thiebaude> Fohn, which graphics card?
[01:41] <XDS2010> Is S9 around ?
[01:41] <JessD> theblue : YW!
[01:42] <XDS2010> Has anyone seen S9 ?
[01:42] <Jordan_U> dalia: Now set windows to use dhcp and it shoudl get an ip address from your ubuntu machine
[01:42] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[01:42] <Fohn> thiebaude: ATI Radeon HD 4670
[01:43] <Aalinux> Hello
[01:43] <alokito> !hi | Aalinux
[01:43] <ShapeShifter499> I'm setting up my email through evolution, I have gmail, which is better to use, POP or IMAP?
[01:43] <JessD> ShapeShifter499 : IMAP
[01:43] <ShapeShifter499> why?
[01:44] <ShapeShifter499> what's the difference?
[01:44] <thiebaude> Fohn, did you try hardware drivers from the System>administration menu
[01:44] <Aalinux> Is it possible to set up mail server in ubuntu 9.04? If possible how?
[01:44] <Wrec> hey everyone
[01:44] <Wrec> is indus here
[01:44] <thiebaude> Fohn, to search for drivers
[01:44] <JessD> ShapeShifter499 : Difference is feature set; POP is bare bones, IMAP offers quite a bit more in terms of functionality.  Check out Wikipedia on IMAP
[01:44] <durt> !postfix | Aalinux
[01:44] <RegressLess> Can someone tell me how to make a program start automatically and be minimized to the taskbar? Ubuntu 9.04
[01:44] <thiebaude> !ati
[01:44] <Wrec> or can anyone help me need to access the grub menu.lst through live cd
[01:45] <JessD> RegressLess : When you say automatic, do you mean on startup?
[01:45] <ShapeShifter499> JessD: ok, thx for help
[01:45] <Napst3r> hey guys
[01:45] <Napst3r> i want to change my profile name in Shell
[01:45] <JessD> ShapeShifter499 : Welcome!
[01:45] <Fohn> thiebaude: I have the proper driver, it's just that for some reason my resolution changes that I make with the proprietary software do not persist through a session, regardless of what I do to my xorg.conf file.
[01:46] <RegressLess> JessD: Ah, yes, that's what I meant.
[01:46] <thiebaude> Fohn, save your resolution settings using gksudo
[01:46] <Jordan_U> Wrec: Do you see your ubuntu partition in Places > Computer ?
[01:46] <Wrec> hey jordan
[01:46] <Napst3r> i want to change it from Napst3r@napst3r-laptop# ...to Napst3r >
[01:46] <JessD> RegressLess : Check out Menu > Preferences Startup Applications
[01:46] <thiebaude> Fohn, i had the same problem, thats what i did
[01:46] <JessD> RegressLess : That'll let you set up apps that start on login
[01:46] <Napst3r> i want to change my profile name in Shell ....i want to change it from Napst3r@napst3r-laptop# ...to Napst3r >
[01:46] <betox> how do i install flash player plug in ?
[01:46] <Wrec> ive type in df - h jordan
[01:46] <juxta_> rkhunter is giving me a warning for /usr/bin/sudo and /usr/bin/ldd - any tips on working out if it's a false positive?
[01:46] <Wrec> yes ican
[01:46] <ShadowDXS> ok this getting annoying
[01:47] <JessD> RegressLess : And there's an app called AllTray that lets you send apps to tray
[01:47] <Fohn> thiebaude: Ah, yeah that makes sense. Do you know the comand line input to run the ATI display manager?
[01:47] <Wrec> no what the command
[01:47] <thiebaude> !flash | betox
[01:47] <ShadowDXS> firefox still isnt upgrade
[01:47] <ShadowDXS> upgraded*
[01:47] <JessD> RegressLess : Preface the comand in Startup apps w/ alltray after installing it, and will automatically show up on start in tray
[01:47] <n-iCe> hi
[01:47] <RegressLess> JessD: AllTray, I'll check that out.
[01:47] <thiebaude> Fohn, i dont know, because i have nvidia and used nvidia-settings
[01:47] <ShadowDXS> hi n-iCe
[01:47] <thiebaude> you have to be root
[01:47] <Napst3r> i want to change my profile name in Shell ....i want to change it from Napst3r@napst3r-laptop# ...to Napst3r >
[01:48] <Fohn> thiebaude: Alright, I'll just google it. Thanks for the help
[01:48] <zer0ne> Napst3r: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/text/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO
[01:48] <betox> why i cant log in facebook
[01:48] <thiebaude> Fohn, no problem, good luck
[01:48] <Napst3r> thanks zer0ne
[01:48] <betox> it does not apear any login
[01:48] <Napst3r> it's toooo long zer0ne !
[01:48] <jcooke> When doing Connect to Server and checking Add bookmark. Where is that data stored?
[01:49] <jefinc> !7zip
[01:49] <Napst3r> !bash
[01:49] <Napst3r> !firefox
[01:49] <Roasted> if I delete .Trash, will it regenerate itself?
[01:49] <ShadowDXS> does anyone here have "WINE"?
[01:50] <Napst3r> !wine
[01:50]  * thiebaude good nite folks
[01:50] <Napst3r> i like this bots
[01:50] <ShadowDXS> i know
[01:50] <ShadowDXS> its kick ass
[01:50] <Napst3r> hh
[01:50] <ShadowDXS> i wonder
[01:50] <ShadowDXS> hmm
[01:50] <ShadowDXS> WINE HELP
[01:50] <RegressLess> JessD: it says "Enable with the '-nm' option." What does that mean?
[01:50] <Pici> !ask | ShadowDXS
[01:50] <ShapeShifter499> I'm having problems with my built-in webcam, what do I do?
[01:50] <jazz> How do I write a daemon that can take requests from PHP scripts and return true/false back in response based on information supplied in the request?
[01:51] <jefinc> ShadowDXS: #wine
[01:51] <Cyrano_De> !php | jazz
[01:51] <lasthopesinyouu> does anyone know how to get the most out of ur computer to play computer games like counter strike 1.6
[01:51] <ShadowDXS> O_o
[01:51] <jefinc> ShadowDXS:  or rather #winehq sorry
[01:51] <Pici> jazz: Thats not really on-topic for this channel, ##php may be a better place.
[01:51] <Roasted> if I delete .Trash, will it regenerate itself?
[01:51] <jazz> ubottu: I have PHP installed and I'm running a website - no problem there.
[01:51] <lasthopesinyouu> On windows I get 100fps and on ubuntu i get less...and now when i try to play it wont even let me
[01:51] <Napst3r> i want to change my profile name in Shell ....i want to change it from Napst3r@napst3r-laptop# ...to Napst3r >
[01:52] <Jordan_U> Roasted: Yes
[01:52] <ShadowDXS> i just wanted to see what the bot would say jefine
[01:52] <jazz> Pici: ubottu: I want to write a Daemon that can take requests and respond to them.
[01:52] <ShadowDXS> i like playing with bots :P
[01:52] <Jordan_U> Napst3r: Pease read the link you have already been given
[01:52] <Napst3r> it's not including what i want Jordan_U
[01:52] <jrib> Roasted: yes
[01:52] <woodyjlw> need help getting wicd to install on 8.10, I added it in the repository like it said on line but it is still not there
[01:53] <ShadowDXS> does anyone here have a
[01:53] <agliodbs> hmmm
[01:53] <jrib> Roasted: well, assuming you are on some really old version where it is still .Trash, yes
[01:53] <RegressLess> What does this mean? sh -c "sleep 5 && /usr/local/bin/qjoypad"
[01:53] <ShadowDXS> P3s with ubuntu 9.4 on here
[01:53] <agliodbs> why is libpg-java so much older than the version of PostgreSQL?
[01:53] <jrib> RegressLess: waits 5 seconds then runs qjoypad...
[01:53] <jefinc> ShadowDXS: the bot only replies when using !command, to test commands /msg ubottu
[01:54] <ShadowDXS> i was asking the room
[01:54] <ShadowDXS> O_
[01:54] <ShadowDXS> O_O
[01:54] <lasthopesinyouu> anybody play cs on ubuntu?
[01:54] <duke_> 这条命令真是好用阿...
[01:54] <Napst3r> hhhhaha
[01:54] <ShadowDXS> does anyone here have ubuntu on PS3
[01:54] <jefinc> !chinese | duke
[01:54] <pelmen> I play PHP on Ubuntu
[01:54] <Fohn> thiebaud: No luck :/
[01:54] <lasthopesinyouu> is ubuntu not good for games lol
[01:54] <jrib> !appdb | lasthopesinyouu
[01:54] <lasthopesinyouu> i've been told it's horrible for games
[01:54] <woodyjlw> can I install wicd in terminal?  cause I cant get it in my synaptics
[01:54] <ShadowDXS> thats not ture
[01:55] <RegressLess> jrib: OK, I think I need to add "-nm" to it. Where should it go/how should I put it?
[01:55] <oorah> how come gyachi voice chat is flawed? it doesn't work
[01:55] <jrib> lasthopesinyouu: try it, I run steam fine
[01:55] <jefinc> lasthopesinyouu: ubuntu for brains, windows for games
[01:55] <Napst3r> !wicd
[01:55] <oorah> is there somethin like gyachi with working voice chat?
[01:55] <jrib> RegressLess: -nm to what...?
[01:55] <lasthopesinyouu> jrib I try to join a game and it wont even click where i want it to
[01:55] <RegressLess> AllTray
[01:55] <lasthopesinyouu> it clicks above where i actually click
[01:55] <RegressLess> jrib: AllTray
[01:55] <ShadowDXS> what is wicd?
[01:56] <jrib> lasthopesinyouu: that used to happen to me if i resized the window after starting it or something
[01:56] <RegressLess> ShadowDXS: wirless network manager
[01:56] <ShadowDXS> aw
[01:56] <woodyjlw> it is a wireless manager for linux
[01:56] <RegressLess> woodyjlw: beetcha
[01:56] <jrib> RegressLess: but I don't see anything about alltray in the command you listed
[01:56] <RegressLess> :P
[01:56] <dalia> Jordan_U: I've tried that and the winxp couldn't find the address
[01:56] <jefinc> lasthopesinyouu: mine seems to have that type of issue after I alt tab, or if I'm using a screen resolution other than that of my desktop
[01:56] <ShadowDXS> i was wondering if there was a way to get a map of your network like you can in Vista or 7
[01:57] <ShadowDXS> so you can see who is all on your netowkr
[01:57] <ShadowDXS> network*
[01:57] <queso_> What is the standard console-based web browser that comes with Ubuntu? I can't remember the command. :/
[01:57] <prince_jammys> queso_: www-browser  links to whatever it is.
[01:57] <Jordan_U> dalia: Does the shared network show as connected on Ubuntu?
[01:57] <RegressLess> jrib: yeah, when I set up qjoypad, the instructions said to put that command in the startup listing, but it wasn't starting in the tray like I'd hoped.
[01:57] <ShapeShifter499> My problem.......I have a acer aspire one 8.9 inch netbook model 150 and I just got it back from the acer repair center, before I sent it in I had Ubuntu 9.04 on it and the webcam and everything else worked great, when my comp broke I sent it in, I just got it back a few weeks ago and I just a few days ago tried to use my webcam, it didn't work, can someone help me, I've tried just about...
[01:57] <ShapeShifter499> ...everything I know of to get it working but I just can't
[01:57] <woodyjlw> ive installed it before on 9.04 and 8.10. last time I installed was 8.10 and I added the link in the repository and installed through synaptics but now It wont show up
[01:57] <jrib> RegressLess: ok
[01:58] <ShadowDXS> and how do you find out what your local ip. and hosts ip is, kinna like ipconfig in CMD
[01:58] <RegressLess> jrib: so someone just suggested AllTray.
[01:58] <dalia> Jordan_U wait a minute I'm trying soemthing here
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[01:58] <jrib> RegressLess: k, so you need to prefix the command with alltray or something (never used it)
[01:58] <meanieface> ShadowDXS: ifconfig
[01:58] <ShapeShifter499> oh and I have reinstalled ubuntu onto my netbook
[01:58] <ShadowDXS> wow
[01:58] <ShadowDXS> thank you meanieface
[01:58] <meanieface> ShadowDXS: your welcome
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[01:59] <prince_jammys> queso_: and the links will take you all the way to /etc/alternatives/www-browser, which over here links to 'lynx'
[01:59] <queso_> prince_jammys: great, thx :)
[01:59] <oorah> this channel isn't nearly as helpful as it use to be lol
[01:59] <vxbinaca> oorah yus
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[01:59] <jrib> vxbinaca: stop that
[01:59] <ShapeShifter499> anyone??
[01:59] <oorah> vxbinaca, yus?
[01:59] <thatmattbone> has anyone had an problems with the libc update that came through a few days ago in9.04 for x86_64.  I have segfaults in mysql, php, dpkg.
[01:59] <oorah> anyone here use gyachi?
[02:00] <vxbinaca> oorah: yus
[02:00] <jrib> oorah: ask an actual question...
[02:00] <n-iCe> ShapeShifter499: paste us your lsusb and lspci in pastebin
[02:00] <queso_> prince_jammys:  aah, w3m was the command I was looking for
[02:00] <oorah> ok
[02:00] <Wrec> hey jordan u there
[02:00] <woodyjlw> there are so many people asking for help now cause there are so many people switching to ubuntu and not enough people to help now :)
[02:00] <Jordan_U> Wrec: Yes
[02:00] <ShapeShifter499> hold on
[02:00] <oorah> how do i make voice chat in gyachi work or is there somethin like gyachi that does it right?
[02:00] <Wrec> sorry computer  got stuc
[02:00] <n-iCe> ShapeShifter499: sure
[02:00] <prince_jammys> queso_: i may have set it to lynx myself. I don't know if lynx was the default.
[02:00] <jrib> oorah: I've used ekiga in the past
[02:00] <Wrec> i need to access the grub/menu.lst
[02:00] <CmdPrmtMd> I use gyachi
[02:00] <oorah> jrib, does ekiga connect to yahoo?
[02:00] <Jordan_U> oorah: WHat is gyachi?
[02:00] <jrib> oorah: no
[02:01] <Xgates> anyone know much about the latest Macbooks & Pro if there are any fixes to be able to reboot?
[02:01] <CmdPrmtMd> I use it what's up
[02:01] <oorah> Jordan_U, its a yahoo chat client with webcam support and supposedly voice chat but voice doesn't work right from my experience
[02:01] <oorah> actually no voice at all
[02:01] <Fohn> Does anyone know why my changes in resolution will not remain persistent through session changes? My gdm login screen has a constant resolution, however when I log in I have to manually use CCC to change the resolution each time despite the fact that I have the proper settings in xorg.conf.
[02:01] <oorah> hey CmdPrmtMd  do you have voice chat in gyachi?
[02:01] <RegressLess> jrib: that's what JessD said to do, but the description says "enable with '-nm'" and I didn't know what that meant or how exactly to "prefix" the startup command.
[02:02] <dalia> JordanU, the answer is yes, but if i put the mouse over the network applet it just show the other NIC
[02:02] <CmdPrmtMd> kopete or gyachi
[02:02] <CmdPrmtMd> both use yahoo
[02:02] <jrib> RegressLess: description of what?  alltray or qjoypad?
[02:02] <Wrec> anyone know how i can access my grub/menu.lst
[02:02] <Wrec> iam doing this from live cd..
[02:02] <RegressLess> jrib alltray
[02:02] <oorah> CmdPrmtMd, does voice chat work in kopete?
[02:02] <RegressLess> jrib: alltray
[02:02] <Jordan_U> Wrec: Do you see your Ubuntu partition in Places > Computer?
[02:02] <jrib> RegressLess: http://alltray.trausch.us/wiki/Documentation
[02:02] <Fohn> wrec it is located in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:03] <CmdPrmtMd> hmmm don't think so gyachi I have li
[02:03] <lasthopesinyouu> jrib
[02:03] <lasthopesinyouu> steam is bugging out
[02:03] <ShapeShifter499> my lspci-------> http://paste.ubuntu.com/276674/ AND my lsusb http://paste.ubuntu.com/276675/
[02:03] <Wrec> how do i do that
[02:03] <timbojimbo> every time i click network>channels here in irc the program freezes. any suggestions?
[02:03] <CmdPrmtMd> limited luck with voice
[02:03] <Wrec> with gparted?
[02:03] <Fohn> wrec so just do: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[02:04] <Jordan_U> Fohn: He is on a LiveCD
[02:04] <CmdPrmtMd> skype is the best for vid and voice
[02:04] <sebsebseb> !gksudo |  Fohn  Wrec
[02:04] <Wrec> ok every ive done sudo gedit and an empty file comes up
[02:04] <sebsebseb> Wrec: you will have to mount your  partition for  Ubuntu
[02:04] <Jordan_U> Wrec: Do you see your Ubuntu partition in Places > Computer?
[02:04] <Wrec> yes i do
[02:04] <RegressLess> jrib: I'm always asking questions when I should be reading--or, I don't know, trying to launch the program to see what it does. :P
[02:05] <ShadowDXS> Filesystem
[02:05] <timbojimbo> i am having trouble with openbox. any one can help with that?
[02:05] <jrib> RegressLess: well that's what you should do but mix in some reading too :)
[02:05] <ShapeShifter499> n-iCe: my lspci-------> http://paste.ubuntu.com/276674/ AND my lsusb-------> http://paste.ubuntu.com/276675/
[02:05] <Jordan_U> Wrec: Ok, your menu.lst is going to be in boot/grub within that partition
[02:05] <Fohn> !ask | timbojimbo
[02:05] <RegressLess> JessD, jrib, thanks
[02:06] <Wrec> what the directory for that
[02:06] <sebsebseb> Wrec: /media/ I think
[02:06] <praetorius> boa noit a todos
[02:06] <Jordan_U> Wrec: Probably /media/disk
[02:06] <Napst3r> how to updaye firefox...?
[02:06] <n-iCe> ShapeShifter499: your webcam isn't even detected.
[02:06] <Napst3r> update
[02:06] <Fohn> wrec: You can use 'df' to find out for sure. It will most likely be the big one :D
[02:07] <n-iCe> ShapeShifter499: must be broke
[02:07] <Jordan_U> !ff35 | Napst3r
[02:07] <sebsebseb> Napst3r: a later version of the Firefox 3.0 series, or 3.5?
[02:07] <praetorius> good night to u all
[02:07] <prince_jammys> hello.
[02:07] <Fohn> Does anyone know why my changes in resolution will not remain persistent through session changes? My gdm login screen has a constant resolution, however when I log in I have to manually use CCC to change the resolution each time despite the fact that I have the proper settings in xorg.conf.
[02:07] <Napst3r> i want really to see the source code of this Bot !
[02:07] <Bluey> howdy
[02:07] <Wrec> darn i cant access the media
[02:07] <teehee> hey i want to partition most of my drive for windows 7 like a lot of it but how do i do that like if i partition too much what will happen to the linux stuff will some of it be deleted or something
[02:08] <ShapeShifter499> n-iCe: But I just sent it in for repairs, I shouldn't get it back with something else broken
[02:08] <Fohn> wrec: You will indeed need root permissions.
[02:08] <prince_jammys> Napst3r: i think it's available. /msg ubottu ubottu , probably.
[02:08] <Jordan_U> Wrec: If you run "gksudo gedit /media/disk/boot/grub/menu.list" does gedit open with your menu.lst or is it empty?
[02:08] <Wrec> ok
[02:08] <jrib> !botclone | Napst3r
[02:08] <ShapeShifter499> n-iCe: do you know what else I could do?
[02:09] <sebsebseb> teehee: 7 hmm  10GB or so for /   and big seperate /home and your swap,  that's a good Ubuntu set up
[02:09] <Napst3r> Ubottu is showing his own weapons !!! lol
[02:09] <darkham> hi people, do you know what can i use for extract audio from a dvd?
[02:09] <sebsebseb> Napst3r: Ubottu is a her
[02:09] <sebsebseb> !gender
[02:09] <Wrec> its empty jorday
[02:09] <teehee> what
[02:09] <timbojimbo> whenever I try to start a session in gnome/openbox it logout out instantly and gives me an error message. It does the same for K/openbox, gnome, or kde with similar error messages. however when I do just openbox works just fine (i think, I have never used openbox before).
[02:09] <darkham> something with gui
[02:09] <teehee> ?
[02:09] <Napst3r> she ??
[02:09] <Napst3r> lol
[02:09] <Wrec> jordan with that command its empty
[02:10] <Fohn> wrec: What is your output when you type 'df' into terminal?
[02:10] <Jordan_U> Wrec: Ok, can you please pastebin the output from running "mount" in a terminal?
[02:10] <Wrec> what is the correct url..
[02:10] <n-iCe> ShapeShifter499: well, the cam isn't working
[02:10] <vxbinaca> wrec: try installing pastebin it and piping the output into a file and then sending the file to pastebin
[02:10] <vxbinaca> pastebinit*
[02:10] <Jordan_U> timbojimbo: What error message?
[02:10] <oorah> anyone have success with voice chat working in any yahoo chat clients?
[02:11] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | Wrec
[02:11] <dalia> Jordan_U: so far no luck with that, I don't know what's going on
[02:11] <Wrec> jordan heer it is
[02:12] <Wrec> http://paste.ubuntu.com/276679/
[02:12] <sebsebseb> teehee: space isn't  an issue as such, plus Ubuntu will be able to read and write no problem to the 7  partition, as long as  Windows shut it down properly
[02:12] <timbojimbo> Jordan_U: hold on i'll write it down. should have done that to begin with
[02:12] <ShapeShifter499> oh well
[02:12] <Jordan_U> dalia: You should see the profile ( whatever you named it ) in the applet.
[02:12] <Silver_Swords> hi all. whens 9.10 coming out?
[02:12] <sebsebseb> Silver_Swords: October 29th
[02:12] <teehee> ok how do i partiton my drive for windows 7
[02:12] <Wrec> jorda here is the paster bin file
[02:12] <Silver_Swords> sebsebseb, thnx  =)
[02:13] <Jordan_U> dalia: My guess is that it's simply not connected. Can you pastebin the output from "nm-tool" ?
[02:13] <sebsebseb> Silver_Swords: np
[02:13] <Wrec> http://paste.ubuntu.com/276679/
[02:13] <sebsebseb> teehee: I have heard of people having issues when they have tried to dual boot  Ubuntu and 7,  or whatever
[02:13] <sebsebseb> teehee: If you got enough RAM, why not just virtual machine it inside Ubuntu? :)
[02:14] <teehee> i thought you couldnt virtual drive windows 7
[02:14] <sebsebseb> teehee: you can virtual machine it
[02:14] <Jordan_U> Wrec: Ok, can you now pastebin the output of "blkid" ?
[02:14] <sebsebseb> teehee: virtual drive???
[02:15] <teehee> sorry i meant virtual machine a brain fart
[02:15] <dalia> pastebin
[02:15] <dalia> oops
[02:15] <Wrec> jordan nothing comes up
[02:15] <sebsebseb> teehee: well I guess RAM won't be an issue  for  vming it, but how much you got?
[02:15] <Jordan_U> Wrec: There is no output from that command?
[02:15] <Wrec> nope
[02:15] <teehee> not sure how can u check
[02:16] <Jordan_U> Wrec: Ok, try "sudo fdisk -l" then
[02:16] <oorah> anyone have success with voice chat working in any yahoo chat clients?
[02:16] <sebsebseb> teehee: free -m and what does it say for the total?
[02:16] <Wrec> nothing
[02:16] <Wrec> hold on got something jordan
[02:17] <teehee> 2891 i dont know if thats good or not
[02:17] <CmdPrmtMd> gychi has been the only on have got to work at all with yahoo
[02:17] <leelee> are most people in here using ubuntu? (excuse me but I am new here)
[02:17] <theblue> Hi all.
[02:17] <dalia> NetworkManager Tool
[02:17] <dalia> State: connected
[02:17] <dalia> - Device: eth1  [Auto eth1] ----------------------------------------------------
[02:17] <dalia>   Type:              Wired
[02:17] <dalia>   Driver:            tulip
[02:17] <FloodBot1> dalia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:17] <sebsebseb> leelee: yes
[02:17] <dalia>   State:             connected
[02:17] <sebsebseb> !welcome |  leelee
[02:17] <Fohn> leelee: I would imagine so :D
[02:17] <theblue> Hmm.
[02:18] <Wrec> jordan here it is...
[02:18] <Wrec> http://paste.ubuntu.com/276682/
[02:18] <CmdPrmtMd> I use a few distro
[02:18] <sebsebseb> leelee: maybe most people in here aren't using it, but those who chat in here, most of us are
[02:18] <CmdPrmtMd> I use a few distos
[02:18] <sebsebseb> !new |  leelee
[02:18] <leelee> is ubuntu better than mint 7? I havent tried mint 7 yet but I hear it is really good. I do like ubuntu.
[02:18] <sebsebseb> leelee: Mint is based on Ubuntu
[02:18] <Wrec> http://paste.ubuntu.com/276682/
[02:18] <theblue> ok, i've got an hp mini 1035, and i've got no sound at all.
[02:19] <leelee> it is 'based' on it, but isnt it different?
[02:19] <sebsebseb> leelee: and it's very green by default
[02:19] <dalia> theblue, must be the pulseaudio thing
[02:19] <teehee> does it matter which version of windows 7 i use for virtualization like can i use a pro version
[02:19] <Jordan_U> Wrec: OK, run "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt" it should give no output if it worked
[02:19] <sebsebseb> leelee: Mint is rather similar to Ubuntu really
[02:19] <theblue> dalia, so what should i do?
[02:19] <sebsebseb> teehee: nope it doesn't matter which version you vm
[02:19] <timbojimbo> Jordan_U: basically it says: Unknown option --choose-session=openbox-session
[02:19] <teehee> my total was 2891 is that good
[02:20] <Wrec> ok done
[02:20] <sebsebseb> teehee: that should be fine yeah
[02:20] <leelee> so, since I am happy with Ubuntu there is no reason to change
[02:20] <Jordan_U> dalia: Can you please use pastebin to get me the output from nm-tool? ( do NOT paste into the channel again )
[02:20] <Wrec> jordan done
[02:20] <sebsebseb> leelee: pretty much yeah, and  also this channel is for Ubuntu support not other distros as well
[02:20] <Jordan_U> Wrec: Ok, "gksudo gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst" should open your menu.lst in gedit
[02:21] <sebsebseb> leelee: As far as I know Ubuntu has  much better support than Mint has
[02:21] <Wrec> ok done
[02:21] <leelee> I was just wanting someone elses opinion. I appreciate it and I will stay with Ubuntu. Thanks all
[02:21] <dalia> I don't know how to do pastebin :)
[02:22] <teehee> hey anyone know where i can find a huge list of terminal commands
[02:22] <n-iCe> leelee: what's the problem?
[02:22] <sebsebseb> !pastebin |  dalia
[02:22] <dalia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[02:22] <n-iCe> teehee: google!
[02:22] <leelee> one more thing  how can I see a list of people in this chat room?
[02:22] <theblue> leelee, /who
[02:22] <stwange> where does openvpn store config files? I have one but I don't know where to put it
[02:22] <sebsebseb> dalia: upload the stuff  and then give people your link
[02:22] <Wrec> jordan thx so much...
[02:22] <n-iCe> leelee: xchat has the nick list on the right you just need to grab it to the right, must be hidden
[02:23] <Jordan_U> Wrec: np
[02:23] <dalia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/276685/
[02:23] <leelee> didnt do anything   nothing changed
[02:23] <dalia> Sorry guys
[02:23] <VonGuard> does anyone know why this happens: https://answers.launchpad.net/netbook-remix/+question/66076
[02:23] <Wrec> jordan now see if this work..brb hope..lol
[02:23] <VonGuard> netbook remix coming up with a blank desktop and no menus after install and update
[02:24] <VonGuard> my acer now has no desktop of use under gnome
[02:24] <VonGuard> even under failsafe gnome
[02:24] <VonGuard> it's a common problem i see, but no one has a real fix
[02:24] <VonGuard> https://answers.launchpad.net/netbook-remix/+question/66076
[02:24] <leelee> how do I 'unhide' it?
[02:24] <teehee> hey i just deleted a partition that was vista and its ext3 but how come i cant save onto it it says no permission or something
[02:25] <VonGuard> anyone?
[02:25] <VonGuard> there's nothing on the web
[02:25] <VonGuard> just some half assed solutions
[02:25] <n-iCe> leelee: grab it
[02:25] <resno1> i am looking for help getting my onboard sound card to work
[02:25] <leelee> how?
[02:25] <leelee> remember I am new
[02:25] <sebsebseb> !patience |  VonGuard
[02:26] <n-iCe> leelee: http://video.linux-noob.com/screenshots/ubuntu/7.04/post-1-1178099902.png
[02:26] <VonGuard> sigh
[02:26] <VonGuard> i have waited
[02:26] <n-iCe> leelee: hold it with your mouse, and move it to the right
[02:26] <leelee> k  brb
[02:26] <VonGuard> and searched
[02:26] <VonGuard> i only came here as a last resort, but obviously no one cares about this bug here or on the web
[02:26] <Wrec> yeah hahhhhh
[02:26] <Wrec> hey JORDAN
[02:26] <Wrec> thanx Bro..
[02:26] <sebsebseb> VonGuard: I don't use the netbook remix, hence why personally I didn't go on your link
[02:27] <Jordan_U> dalia: Name the profile that you have set to share something like "Share Internet" so it's recognisable and set it to connect automatically
[02:27] <vistakiller1> hey my hp notebook(6515b), it's microphone not working, with ALSA sound drive.chip is AD1981A. sound out ok
[02:27] <sebsebseb> !bugs |  VonGuard
[02:28] <sebsebseb> and they leave
[02:28] <leelee> how can I make my screen look like that?
[02:28] <n-iCe> leelee: first, did you solve the nicklist issue?
[02:28] <dobblego> I tried to install dual-boot on a dell machine with vista and the partitioner ran into an error as soon as it tried to do its thing -- I looked around in BIOS for perhaps some setting protecting the MBR but I could find nothing, any tips on what it could be?
[02:28] <leelee> no
[02:29] <n-iCe> leelee: I don't know how to explain you, just go to the right bar and grab it to the left, so you can resize the bar
[02:29] <sebsebseb> dobblego: ok did you let Ubuntu resize your  Vista partition?
[02:29] <resno1> i have been able to hear sound when i set my sound card on prefrences, but otherwise i hear nothing.
[02:29] <dobblego> sebsebseb, I tried, but it hit an error immediately trying to do so
[02:29] <Wrec> ok thx for that
[02:29] <sebsebseb> dobblego: ok
[02:30] <sebsebseb> dobblego: you shoudn't  use Gparted or any of that to resize  a Vista partition, because data loss migh thappen
[02:30] <leelee> it just makes the page wider   doesnt show the nicks
[02:30] <Wrec> got another one..i know what stuffed my grub menu.lst...
[02:30] <sebsebseb> dobblego: instead let Vista resize itself,  there's a built in tool or two for this, well two sure,  the graphical one and the command line
[02:30] <dobblego> sebsebseb, does the ubuntu installation use gparted?
[02:30] <Wrec> anyone know how to add a splash image to (k)ubuntu booloader??
[02:30] <dobblego> sebsebseb, ok, so I boot into vista to use this tool?
[02:30] <sebsebseb> dobblego: the Ubuntu installer uses something else
[02:31] <Wrec> the right way....hehe
[02:31] <sebsebseb> dobblego: yes let Vista resize itself, and no you don't use Gparted in Vista
[02:31] <sebsebseb> !gparted |  dobblego
[02:31] <dobblego> sebsebseb, ok, I'll have to figure out what you use then
[02:31] <sebsebseb> dobblego: What I am saying is don't let the  Ubuntu installer or Gparted resize your Vista partition.
[02:31] <dobblego> yes I have used gparted before, I wasn't using gparted
[02:31] <dobblego> sebsebseb, ok, a windows thing to do it then, thanks
[02:32] <timbojimbo> Hey I just installed open box. When I select session gnome/openbox it gives me this error message: Unknown option --choose-session=openbox-session. When I use Openbox by itself it runs but there is no interface. all i can do is right click on the desktop and do things via the terminal. not terrible but my girlfriend wont be able to use it. any suggestions? Ideas?
[02:32] <sebsebseb> dobblego: thinking of what I mean uhmm.  system  computer right click, and computer management or something.   well ##windows can help you resize Vista anyway,  plus you might find that, even after you resized it using it's tool, it's taking up tons of space
[02:33] <dobblego> sebsebseb, ok, I'll look into it thanks, I don't suppose there is a ubuntu wiki page on it
[02:33] <sebsebseb> dobblego: nope don't think so
[02:33] <jimbeam12> hey all
[02:33] <jimbeam12> anyone want a drink..??
[02:33] <resno1> i have been able to hear sound when i set my sound card on prefrences, but otherwise i hear nothing.
[02:34] <sebsebseb> !ot |  jimbeam12
[02:34] <jimbeam12> yah but everyone love a jim beam.
[02:34] <jimbeam12> hey sebsebseb
[02:34] <sebsebseb> !hi |  jimbeam12
[02:35] <jimbeam12> yeah i got one that on the topic..
[02:35] <sebsebseb> jimbeam12: check that's a good idea have a look at their channel guidelines
[02:35] <sebsebseb> yeah not check above
[02:35] <jimbeam12> how do i add a splash image ot (K)Ubuntu bootloader
[02:36] <jimbeam12> the proper way..last time i did this stuffed my menu.lst
[02:36] <sebsebseb> jimbeam12:  for help with Kubuntu as in #kubuntu
[02:36] <sebsebseb> !info startupmanager
[02:36] <timbojimbo> Hey I just installed open box. When I select session gnome/openbox it gives me this error message: Unknown option --choose-session=openbox-session. When I use Openbox by itself it runs but there is no interface. all i can do is right click on the desktop and do things via the terminal. not terrible but my girlfriend wont be able to use it. any suggestions? Ideas?
[02:36] <jimbeam12> i want to put a splash screen on startup
[02:36] <sebsebseb> jimbeam12: startupmanager  can  do splash images I think
[02:36] <leelee> I found it  ...  now how do i get it to stay up?
[02:36] <jimbeam12> ive tried that..dont work
[02:37] <dalia> Jordan_U, do you mean to add another entry in the network connections?
[02:37] <Jordan_U> dalia: Yes
[02:37] <resno1> how do i probe for my sound card? grep lpic|sound?
[02:37] <sebsebseb> jimbeam12: ok well  I personally don't bother  changing it, i'll  use the Ubuntu or Kubuntu  one, and no I don't want to talk to you in pm
[02:38] <jimbeam12> lololol ok cool
[02:38] <dalia> Jordan_U: done
[02:38] <dalia> what now?
[02:38] <Jordan_U> dalia: Pastebin the output from nm-tool again
[02:39] <leelee> can someone please tell me how to see all the users nicks on a sidebar?
[02:39] <Fohn> Does anyone know why my changes in resolution will not remain persistent through session changes? My gdm login screen has a constant resolution, however when I log in I have to manually use CCC to change the resolution each time despite the fact that I have the proper settings in xorg.conf.
[02:39] <sebsebseb> jimbeam12: I find the Kubuntu one much nicer looking than the Ubuntu one
[02:39] <Pici> leelee: Is there an option to show the userlist when you right click on the channel text?
[02:39] <timbojimbo> #openbox
[02:40] <agliodbs> WTF?  "visudo" just crashed my terminal session on Jaunty
[02:40]  * nit is back.
[02:40] <jimbeam12_> yeah
[02:40] <leelee> no
[02:40] <sebsebseb> !language |  agliodbs
[02:40] <Pici> leelee: What irc client are you using?
[02:41] <dalia> http://paste.ubuntu.com/276693/
[02:41] <leelee> Ubuntu Server: #ubuntu
[02:41] <dalia> Jordan_U: I don't think it did anything
[02:41] <jimbeam12_> does anyone know how to add a splash image to ubuntu booloader
[02:42] <agliodbs> sebsebseb: so any reason why visudo would crash an ssh connection?
[02:42] <jimbeam12_> or give me advise how to do it..cant seem to fiind anything concrete on it
[02:42] <Jordan_U> dalia: It didn't, for some reason network-manager is still using the automatic profile rather than the sharing profile
[02:42] <ThomasHC> bbl shower
[02:42] <Jordan_U> dalia: Do you see the sharing profile in the network-manager applet?
[02:42] <dalia> Jordan_U, Yes I think there is something fishy there
[02:42] <jamiejackson> how do i tell ubuntu how many boots until the next auto-filesystem check? i actually want to force one.
[02:42] <leelee> it says there is 1335 Users. Is that correct?
[02:43] <theblue> yes.
[02:43] <sebsebseb> agliodbs: hmm that's your response to me for !language, and I don't know
[02:43] <dalia> Jordan_U, the only thing I see in the applet is Auto eth1 active
[02:43] <leelee> do you have all of them in a sidebar?
[02:43] <Fohn> Does anyone know why my changes in resolution will not remain persistent through session changes? My gdm login screen has a constant resolution, however when I log in I have to manually use CCC to change the resolution each time despite the fact that I have the proper settings in xorg.conf.
[02:43] <timbojimbo> Hey I just installed open box. When I select session gnome/openbox it gives me this error message: Unknown option --choose-session=openbox-session. When I use Openbox by itself it runs but there is no interface. all i can do is right click on the desktop and do things via the terminal. not terrible but my girlfriend wont be able to use it. any suggestions? Ideas?
[02:43] <Jordan_U> dalia: Odd
[02:44] <Pici> leelee: Can you try right-clicking on the channel name itself and see if there is an option for the userlist.  I don't use xchat-gnome, and my client doesnt have a userlist, and yes there are that many people here.
[02:44] <dalia> Jordan_U: the share internet should be in the Wired tab, right?
[02:44] <agliodbs> sebsebseb: yep, it is
[02:44] <Jordan_U> dalia: Yes
[02:44] <leelee> no option
[02:44] <mason> hello im having troubles with grub
[02:44] <dalia> Jordan_U, just checking
[02:44] <agliodbs> sebsebseb: I could argue with you about abbreviations, but I'd rather ask a question.  ;-)
[02:44] <sebsebseb> !details |  mason
[02:44] <Fohn> !ask | mason
[02:44] <Need_Help_SFTP> Can someone point me to instructions for setting up a SFTP server please.
[02:45] <Fohn> ah, details is way better
[02:45] <leelee> is there another xchat I should download?
[02:45] <sebsebseb> agliodbs: Well you should go back to asking it to the whole channel,  and  give it some time, and you might get a proper reply to it.
[02:45] <Need_Help_SFTP> i have not had much luck with google instructions.  I'm using 9.04
[02:45] <dalia> Jordan_U,maybe there is something I have to install?
[02:45] <Jordan_U> mason: What problems?
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> leelee:  theres xchat, and xchat-gnome, then theres a dozen+ Other irc clients you could use.
[02:45] <Pici> leelee: How about ctrl-u ?
[02:45] <Jordan_U> dalia: Shouldn't be
[02:46] <leelee> control u will bring up a list   but it wont stay up
[02:47] <mason> ok im running eeebuntu on my laptop and i have win xp snow leopard and backtrack installed on seprate partitions grub reconizes win xp eeebuntu and backtrack but not osx
[02:47] <Pici> leelee: I think thats how xchat-gnome is.  the regular xchat package has a real userlist.
[02:47] <resno1> how you probe for sound cards?
[02:47] <resno1> !sound > resno1
[02:47] <leelee> Pici: what xchat are you using?
[02:47] <sebsebseb> mason: and your computer isn't even a Mac right?
[02:47] <mason> no
[02:48] <Pici> leelee: None.  I use irssi, its a terminal (text only) IRC client.
[02:48] <Jordan_U> dalia: Remove all other profiles for eth0
[02:48] <leelee> can I download xchat on my ubuntu and it work?
[02:48] <agliodbs> sebsebseb: I think if anyone was going to answer, they would have already ... it'll be a little mystery for now
[02:48] <gabspeck> greetings everyone
[02:48] <ShadowDXS> can anyone help me with upgradeing my firefox?
[02:48] <ShadowDXS> i tryed the sudo command
[02:48] <ShadowDXS> that didnt work
[02:48] <sebsebseb> mason: Ok OS X isn't really meant to be run on PC's,  and so it would be wrong for people to try and help you boot that up in here
[02:49] <ShadowDXS> ubuntuzill didnt help
[02:49] <ShadowDXS> and the mozilla site didnt help
[02:49] <gabspeck> does anybody know any way to set up a server to stream my microphone input ?
[02:49] <ShadowDXS> ...
[02:49] <Jordan_U> ShadowDXS: Do you have an entry in Applications > Internet called "Shiretoko" ?
[02:49] <sarath> ya i've shiretoko
[02:49] <ShadowDXS> web browser?
[02:49] <mason> it was a backup image for my exact laptop model just grub wont reconize it
[02:49] <sake_> in dell studio 15,  does the slot-loading cd drive eject properly when using ubuntu?
[02:50] <ShadowDXS> yes
[02:50] <sarath> its firefox but a bit modified
[02:50] <chrome> argh, anyone else running Karmic?
[02:50] <sebsebseb> mason: also running it on a PC is  piracy or sort of piracy
[02:50] <ShadowDXS> O_O
[02:50] <sebsebseb> !piracy > mason
[02:50] <ShadowDXS> oh...
[02:50] <sarath> yes it does
[02:50] <Jordan_U> ShadowDXS: That is Firefox 3.5
[02:50]  * nit is away: Gone away for now
[02:50] <sarath> dell 1555 works fine with ubuntu
[02:50] <yoyoned> !karmic|chrome
[02:50] <billc> new to linux and need help to reconfigure Konqueror association
[02:50] <dalia> Jordan_U, I just did this:First copy your interfaces file in etc/nework with this command
[02:50] <dalia> sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /home/Desktop
[02:50] <dalia> After that edit that file in /etc/network/ with
[02:50] <dalia> gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces
[02:50] <dalia> Delete all text in that file.Save and close file.Now you should be able to create your network connection with network applet.
[02:50] <FloodBot1> dalia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:50] <dalia> sorry.....
[02:51] <sebsebseb> mason: well maybe not if you bought it, but even so it's not meant to run on a PC
[02:51] <sake_> in dell studio 15,  does the slot-loading cd drive eject properly when using ubuntu?
[02:51] <ShadowDXS> kick ass
[02:51] <dalia> Jordan_U: I meant this http://paste.ubuntu.com/276700/
[02:51] <sake_> !piracy
[02:52] <sake_> in dell studio 15,  does the slot-loading cd drive eject properly when using ubuntu?
[02:52] <mgv1> how can i know that i have this for airocrack-ng? "It assumes you have a working wireless card with drivers already patched for injection."
[02:52] <ShadowDXS>     O_o
[02:52] <Jordan_U> dalia: Do you now see the shared profile in the network-manager applet?
[02:52] <SFTP_slave> need help setting up SFTP server on 9.04 please.. step by step instructions would be wonderful
[02:53] <billc> trying to install x-plane, but do not use correct application
[02:53] <dalia> Jordan_U, no and I don't see the eth0 neither
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> SFTP_slave:  i thought all you did was install the open-ssh server.. and it workjed as sftp also..
[02:53] <sebsebseb> billc: your using KDE?
[02:53] <otec> hi all! Русские есть тут?
[02:54] <sebsebseb> and they are gone
[02:54]  * otec Русско-язычные есть? =)
[02:54] <ShadowDXS> now how do i view other computers on my network, it just says windows network
[02:54] <ShadowDXS> even if i have no windows OS installed
[02:54] <sake_> !ask in dell studio 15,  does the slot-loading cd drive eject properly when using ubuntu?
[02:54] <yoyoned> !ru
[02:55] <sake_> !es
[02:55] <otec> какой милый бот - спасибо =)
[02:55] <mgv1> what is "drivers already patched for injection" when it's on airocrack guide?
[02:55] <sebsebseb> !english |  otec
[02:56] <otec> Thanks =)
[02:56] <sebsebseb> otec: np
[02:57] <sake_> in dell studio 15,  does the slot-loading cd drive eject properly when using ubuntu?
[02:57] <sake_> plz answr
[02:57] <zebi_> hi
[02:57] <dragonlyre> !hi
[02:57] <sebsebseb> !welcome |  zebi_
[02:58] <sake_> zebi_ !hi
[02:58] <ShadowDXS> now how do i view other computers on my network, it just says windows network
[02:58] <ShadowDXS> even if i have no windows OS installed
[02:58] <zebi_> ubottu ?
[02:59] <sake_> the irc bot
[02:59] <sake_> it only responds to commands
[02:59] <sebsebseb> !bot |  zebi_
[02:59] <sebsebseb> and it's female apparantly
[02:59] <sebsebseb> !gender
[02:59] <zebi_> ok.
[02:59] <zebi_> !hi
[02:59] <sake_> in dell studio 15,  does the slot-loading cd drive eject properly when using ubuntu?
[02:59] <bhvit> shadow: can you ping other machines on network?
[02:59] <ShadowDXS> i dont know
[02:59] <ShadowDXS> it my eject
[02:59] <ShadowDXS> try it out
[03:00] <sebsebseb> zebi_: Ok is there something  with Ubuntu that you want help with?
[03:00] <sake_> i dont ha yet
[03:00] <ShadowDXS> now how do i view other computers on my network, it just says windows network
[03:00] <ShadowDXS> even if i have no windows OS installed
[03:00] <sake_> still shipping
[03:01] <ShadowDXS> ...
[03:01] <zebi_> sebsebseb no im french my english is bad sorry i dont search anything
[03:02] <sebsebseb> !fr | zebi_
[03:02] <zebi_> ok
[03:02] <zebi_> so i moove ?
[03:02] <zebi_> :(
[03:02] <Fohn> !xorg | fohn
[03:02] <sebsebseb> zebi_: well if you can understand English well enough, this channel is for you, if  not  try the French channel
[03:02] <isabellf> zebi_: feel free to stay if you want to improve your english
[03:03] <mgv1> what should i do when the terminal says "Run it as root"?
[03:03] <sebsebseb> zebi_: yes what isabellf  put
[03:03] <zebi_> sebsebseb okay but i can help i know ubuntu
[03:03] <dragonlyre> mgv1 don't run as root.
[03:04] <zebi_> isabellf yes
[03:04] <mgv1> dragonlyre, so what can i do?
[03:05] <dragonlyre> mgv1 have restarted your computer?
[03:05] <mgv1> dragonlyre, no
[03:06] <mgv1> dragonlyre, thanks, i hope to understand how to use airocrack
[03:06] <dragonlyre> oh heck, never run anything like as Root...
[03:07] <mgv1> what can i do if f-spot is crashing?
[03:08] <OneMillionDollar> why ubuntu only play one audio stream at a time
[03:08] <OneMillionDollar> if i play both a video and a music on different app it only play one of them
[03:08] <bobertdos> OneMillionDollar: Are you using 8.04 (Hardy)?
[03:09] <Fohn> Hello. I've gotten a new monitor and I have it configured with proper resolution and refresh rates in xorg.conf so that my login screen and other users' screens come up perfectly, however whenever I log into my profile my resolution is reverted back to my old resolution, and I have to manually change it using CCC. Anyone know how I can make the changes persistent?
[03:09] <webbb82> anyone got some ideas of a good clippboard manager  better than the one that comes with ubuntu
[03:09] <OneMillionDollar> yes
[03:10] <OneMillionDollar> 8.04
[03:11] <bobertdos> OneMillionDollar: That is a known issue with Pulse audio. If you want to try and get around it, switch the Sound Preferences or the preferences in individual programs to ALSA.
[03:12] <tyncho> hola
[03:13] <tyncho> Como estan hay alguien
[03:13] <bobertdos> !es | tyncho
[03:13] <webbb82> my mouse has two main buttons and two secondary buttons how can i get these to work the mouse properties dont give the option
[03:15] <Crash1hd> how do I setup cronjobs on ubuntu?
[03:16] <ctmjr> !cron
[03:16] <Crash1hd> ctmjr: thanks :)
[03:16] <Fohn> Hello. I've gotten a new monitor and I have it configured with proper resolution and refresh rates in xorg.conf so that my login screen and other users' screens come up perfectly, however whenever I log into my profile my resolution is reverted back to my old resolution, and I have to manually change it using CCC. Anyone know how I can make the changes persistent?
[03:16] <ctmjr> Crash1hd: your welcome
[03:16] <scuchaofan> hi
[03:17] <scuchaofan> is there anyone here?
[03:17] <Guest4270> scuchaofan, would not matter if anyone was here.
[03:18] <smarks_> ya theres people here
[03:18] <ekontsevoy> UNIX permissions: how do I set up a folder where a bunch of users can create/delete/modify/read files? something like /var/shared/
[03:18] <ekontsevoy> Right now if someone creates a file, nobody else can touch it. Can I force all new files to inherit parent directory permissions?
[03:18] <bobertdos> !chmod | ekontsevoy
[03:19] <Fohn> Hello. I've gotten a new monitor and I have it configured with proper resolution and refresh rates in xorg.conf so that my login screen and other users' screens come up perfectly, however whenever I log into my profile my resolution is reverted back to my old resolution, and I have to manually change it using CCC. Anyone know how I can make the changes persistent?
[03:19] <OneMillionDollar> hohoho alsa does solve it
[03:19] <OneMillionDollar> i wonder why ubuntu use other  at default
[03:19] <woodyjlw> j/ #wicd
[03:19] <OneMillionDollar> when alsa does the job
[03:19] <funnyman> hello all, my desktop ubuntu is not booting and fsck failed. Now the screen is kinda black, yet i can't get to the terminal. It just stays there, and seemingly checking for the fs in the background. what should i do guys
[03:20] <DoOver> HI, i need to reformat my drive, is there a formater in ubuntu?
[03:21] <bobertdos> OneMillionDollar: At the time Hardy came out Pulseaudio still had quite a few bugs. They have been resolved since.
[03:21] <zebi_> DoOver you want to reinstall or install win?
[03:21] <DoOver> I tried using gparted but grub is still coming up.
[03:21] <leaf-sheep> DoOver: Purpose of formatting the drive?
[03:22] <DoOver> zebi, I want to reformat my drive completely, 100%.  I want all data off the drive.
[03:22] <EvilPsych> good evening
[03:22] <Slade> hi
[03:22] <lepture> test irssi
[03:22] <EvilPsych> i've got an odd install problem that i've repeated no matter the solution
[03:22] <funnyman> anyone have a solution for my problem?
[03:22] <bobertdos> funnyman: How far does it get in booting>
[03:22] <DoOver> I tried dban, but I am getting an error.  (non-fatal error)
[03:22] <EvilPsych> can-not get past the initial login screen
[03:22] <EvilPsych> after installation w/ alternate cd
[03:23] <EvilPsych> on 9.04
[03:23] <DoOver> leaf-sheep, I want to re-install ubuntu and windows in a dual boot for my sister.
[03:23] <Slade> I'm having a problem fixing the screen resolution on my computer
[03:23] <EvilPsych> key/mouse freezes up and i cant even type the user name
[03:23] <Slade> it's only going up to 1280x1240 when windows can go much higher. any ideas?
[03:24] <DoOver> Am I the first person that wants to format a drive?  How can this be hard?  does ubuntu ship with a program that will format the COMPLETE drive?
[03:24] <RukusX> hey is swap on a machine with 2gb's of ram necessary? like do i really need 2 - 5 gigs of swap space? i never see my computer using swap ever.
[03:24] <funnyman> bobertdos, i showed the ubuntu loading bar , then checks for fs (which we can press Esc for skipping) It doesn't matter whether i press ESC, it will go to this black console printing error messages, and it's been staying frozen for like 20 mins
[03:24] <Xgates> when I try to install a new linux-header-generic the DKMS fails for building the nvidia module, how can I get it to build and not fail?
[03:25] <bobertdos> funnyman: Reboot, and then before the splash screen, do Alt-F1. It should switch to a rather verbose text boot.
[03:25] <DoOver> Does anyone know how to format a hard drive?  I need to erase the data on the drive.  I tried gparted but grub is still coming up (with errors of course, but it comes up and that tells me the drive is not formated completely).
[03:25] <zebi_> DoOver you can with the windows cd and the ubuntu cd too, or with acronis
[03:25] <Slade> DoOver: what type of filesystem do u want?
[03:25] <DoOver> windows will not reformat the whole drive
[03:26] <DoOver> slade, I am doing a dual boot.
[03:26] <zebi_> or gparted..
[03:26] <DoOver> what is acronis?
[03:26] <Slade> DoOver: is the drive partitioned?
[03:26] <ncfi1013> where do i find the default gateway in linux?
[03:26] <DoOver> slade, I want to do a format on the drive... partitions will be wiped.
[03:26] <Slade> DoOver, then you need to fdisk the drive
[03:26] <Slade> gparted will help you
[03:27] <jdu> ncfi1013: find the ip of the default gateway on your network?
[03:27] <zebi_> DoOver a program for erase all data on hard disk
[03:27] <RukusX> so what is the deal on swap space?
[03:27] <DoOver> slade, thired time, I did gparted.  grub is still coming up.
[03:27] <funnyman> bobertdos a got a shell now, starting with (initramfs), is this what you meant?
[03:27] <ScottNYC> is there a way to restart ubuntu on a mac
[03:27] <bobertdos> ncfi1013: In the terminal, you can use ifconfig. Graphically, you can right-click the network icon on the top and check Connection Information.
[03:27] <WonderfunkJones> How do I share an external USB drive on my wireless network with other computers?
[03:27] <Slade> DoOver: First time, i didn't see the other two times you said it.
[03:27] <DoOver> slade, fare enough.
[03:27] <Slade> DoOver: Got an old windows98 boot floppy?
[03:27] <Slade> even better, got a floppy drive?
[03:28] <funnyman> bobertdos: buzz :)
[03:28] <Xgates> can anyone tell me how to get DKMS to build the nvidia module when installing a new kernel?
[03:28] <DoOver> slade the windows fdisk will not format the whole drive.  the outer part of the drive will not be touched.
[03:28] <Xgates> it keeps failing on me...
[03:28] <zebi_> but you must burn a cd..
[03:28] <bobertdos> funnyman: Not quite, at the shell, you should be able to reboot, either by typing reboot or doing control alt delete. Then do alt F1 to do the text boot.
[03:28] <Slade> if not, and you have the windows CD. boot off of that, then go into widnows recovery console, and type in FIXMBR
[03:28] <zonedfull> Hello I have a big problem installing anything on my ubuntu 9.04 after tried to install JAVA...The java failed to install and I get the error E:dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run "sudo dpkg -- configure -a" to correct the problem E: _cache-open()failed),please report
[03:28] <Slade> DoOver: the syntax is fdisk /MBR
[03:29] <zebi_> yes its the best with windows cd
[03:29] <Slade> that will kill grub
[03:29] <DoOver>  zebi, thanks, I will check out acronis
[03:29] <Slade> but then you need to get into the windows recovery console with the windows install cd
[03:29] <Slade> and do FIXMBR
[03:29] <zebi_> gparted works too
[03:29] <DoOver> slade, what does the /mbr do for you?
[03:29] <Slade> zebi_: appears he doesn't want to use gparted
[03:29] <ctmjr> RukusX: it is not necessary to have swap but if you ever need it and do not have your system will crash so it's pretty much up to you
[03:29] <Slade> DoOver: it erases the Master Boot Record
[03:29] <Slade> that is where grub is installed
[03:30] <LucidGuy> Simple question.  I have a typical DVD file stucture Audio and Video direcotories containeing the typical vob files etc.  How would one properly burn that to a DVD without converting to ISO etc... in Ubuntu
[03:30] <Slade> be warned, if you do not have a boot cd or floppy, you wont be able to boot your pc again
[03:30] <Jordan_U> zonedfull: I assume you get the second part of the error again if you run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?
[03:30] <DoOver> thanks slade.  that might do it.
[03:30] <RukusX> ctmjr: well i have 2gb ram.... how much swap should i have?
[03:30] <Slade> DoOver, read my warning
[03:30] <DoOver> slade and zebi, I have tried gparted several times... grub is till there.
[03:30] <zonedfull> Yes I have tried that In terminal
[03:30] <Jordan_U> RukusX: Do you want to be able to hibernate?
[03:31] <acostello> RukusX: 2 gigs of ram doesnt touch your swap... swap is like the pagefile in windows...
[03:31] <funnyman> bobertdos: i have multiple OSes installed, right after i choose ubuntu, if i press fast enough , i get this prompt but it's not a shell. I tried "reboot" and now the screen is totally black, no message..
[03:31] <bobertdos> zonedfull: The terminal makes it easier to fix this. Run the commands it's telling you. Install java using sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre and make sure you accept the license agreement by using the tab key to move around.
[03:31] <DoOver> slade, I am using ubuntu and windows... i am wiping the drive.  yes I ahve the reinstall disks.
[03:31] <funnyman> bobertdos: Press fast enough = press Alt+F1 fast enough
[03:31] <Slade> DoOver, then that's all you need
[03:31] <Slade> brb gotta reboot
[03:31] <RukusX> acostello: don't compare to windows for me. lol won't work. :)
[03:32] <Slade> then i need to address this screen resolution problem
[03:32] <acostello> RukusX: lol ok
[03:32] <Xgates> does anyone know why  DKMS fails to build Nvidia on new kernels, is it because the Nvidia packs are just meant for certain kernels?
[03:32] <Jordan_U> zonedfull: Could you please file a bug report with "ubuntu-bug dpkg" ?
[03:32] <ctmjr> RukusX: it is recommended to have double the amount of ram
[03:32] <RukusX> acostello:  haha i am just having fun. :) i know that ubuntu does use swap different;y than windows tho
[03:32] <zonedfull> NO when I write it now it came up with setting up sun.java6-fonts
[03:33] <DoOver> Slade, thanks.  Nice to come accross someone who knows what they are doing and can explain clearly.  I really appreciate it.
[03:33] <DoOver> I do have cfdisk also, do you know what that is?
[03:33] <RukusX> ctmjr:  but where is the threshold?  that is old recommendations. Now we have machines with 4 gbs of ram or more, would it make sense to havea 6gb swap file/ partition ?
[03:33] <bobertdos> funnyman: Do you have a live cd? If you do, use that to get at your Ubuntu partition. Edit the file /boot/grub/menu.lst. Find in the most current automagic kernel entry the word "splash" and delete it.
[03:33] <funnyman> bobertdos: i think it's BusyBox built-in shell . It says here
[03:33] <zonedfull> But there is also a problem with that...This package is an installer packager it does not actually contain the JDK documation. You will need to download one of the archives..
[03:33] <Fohn> Hello. I've gotten a new monitor and I have it configured with proper resolution and refresh rates in xorg.conf so that my login screen and other users' screens come up perfectly, however whenever I log into my profile my resolution is reverted back to my old resolution, and I have to manually change it using CCC. Anyone know how I can make the changes persistent?
[03:34] <RukusX> ctmjr i mean 10 gb
[03:34] <RukusX> or 12
[03:34] <RukusX> whatever
[03:34] <RukusX> lolol
[03:34] <RukusX> u get the point
[03:34] <FloodBot1> RukusX: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:34] <funnyman> bobertdos: okie, i'll give that a go, thanks
[03:34] <zonedfull> I have downloaded the JDK doc... but I dont get the acces to paste the file into the root directory like its explained in the Terminal
[03:34] <zonedfull> Yes IM a newbie
[03:34] <Jordan_U> RukusX: The main consideration now is how much you need to hibernate, as hibernation saves your RAM compressed to the swap partition you need somewhat less than your physical memory for swap to be able to hibernate
[03:35] <RukusX> Jordan_U:  thats fine and all. but i never plan on hibernating.
[03:35] <RukusX> Jordan_U:  but that might be a good guideline to go by, for your total failsafe minimum. its not a bad point
[03:36] <RukusX> the thing is, that i never see free -m using swap ever
[03:36] <RukusX> Swap:         2149          0       2149
[03:36] <RukusX> lol
[03:36] <zonedfull> Jordan U how do I do that
[03:37] <zonedfull> Mabe It would be easier all if I could have the IRC client at the ubuntu PC...
[03:37] <dios_mio> RukusX , open 30 firefox pages
[03:37] <RukusX> dios_mio: who would?
[03:37] <Cronix> zonedfull: sudo apt-get install irssi
[03:37] <zonedfull> Now Im into a windows PC cause I cant install IRC at the ubuntu since the Synapic is down
[03:37] <Cronix> ah lol
[03:37] <Jordan_U> zonedfull: Pidgin supports IRC ( though the interface isn't great for IRC )
[03:37] <funnyman> bobertdos: what was the possible cause of this issue? (i'm still booting the live cd)
[03:38] <Jordan_U> zonedfull: And pidgin comes pre-installed
[03:38] <RukusX> i use kvirc or xchat
[03:38] <RukusX> right now is kvirc
[03:38] <powerjuce> hey guys, i have ubuntu installed onto my harddrive, i decided to install xp after that so i installed it at the last 10 gigs of the drive, however when i run xp it runs really slowly and freezes a lot. is that because of ubuntu?
[03:38] <lucasmora> hello everyone. I use Ubuntu 8.04.3 LTS and I would like to know how I write ASCII characters like those hearts <3, (tm) and stuff like that
[03:38] <Cronix> zonedfull: can u compile?
[03:38] <RukusX> powerjuce:  did you move windows to the front or back of your hard drive?
[03:39] <crasher> .
[03:39] <RukusX> powerjuce:  sorry i misread
[03:39] <RukusX> powerjuce: do some googling, but maybe windows xp doesnt like being at the back of the hard drive
[03:39] <bullgard4> What does 'desc' stand for in the filename /usr/share/tasksel/ubuntu-tasks.desc?
[03:40] <powerjuce> RukusX: ok thaks
[03:40] <ShapeShifter499> I have ubuntu 9.04, I need to install windows 7 rc 7100 build to test if its my ubuntu install or just hardware thats not working correctly how do I prevent having to reinstall ubuntu if I find out its just hardware? (I'm testing my webcam)
[03:40] <bobertdos> funnyman: Well, sometimes, as with my laptop, if your system runs at a resolution that isn't supported by the splash screen controller, the bot sequence will choke because it's looking for boot decoration at a resolution it doesn't actually support. It's a little weird, but that's the best I can explain it. That may or may not be your issue, but it works in some situations.
[03:40] <lstarnes> bullgard4: it may be a debian description file
[03:40] <prince_jammys> 'description'
[03:40] <Slade> anyone know how to get kopete to connect to yahoo?
[03:40] <zonedfull> Im sitting with pidgin trying to configure
[03:40] <zonedfull> :)
[03:41] <zonedfull> Sorry for my late answer
[03:41] <Jordan_U> powerjuce: Run a checkdisk in windows, if it finds nothing wrong then it's not resizing that caused the problem
[03:42] <harisund> I have a EEE 900 series. I don't know if my camera is recognized or not. Does Ubuntu have drivers and software for in-built laptop cameras? Is there any software that will allow me to voice chat on Ubuntu?
[03:42] <powerjuce> Jordan_U: ok
[03:42] <funnyman> bobertdos: thanks:), now i'm in Ubuntu live, but i can't see /boot/grup/menu.lst
[03:43] <ShapeShifter499> well anyone?
[03:43] <zonedfull1> Now Iam connected
[03:43] <Jordan_U> harisund: You can test your camera with a program called "cheeze" which you can install from Applications > Add / Remove, it's a lot like Apple's Photo Booth
[03:43] <bobertdos> funnyman:  grub, not grup
[03:43] <zonedfull1> I THINK
[03:43] <zonedfull1> yes U am
[03:43] <ANTRat> Uncle|Sam: is zonedfull1 connected?
[03:43] <ANTRat> not Uncle|Sam
[03:43] <ANTRat> ah
[03:43] <funnyman> bobertdos: yes, grub :) typo, still no
[03:43] <ANTRat> im not in the right channel, ignore me
[03:44] <harisund> Jordan_U, all right will check that out. Thanks man .. and video chat?
[03:44] <Fohn> Hello. I've gotten a new monitor and I have it configured with proper resolution and refresh rates in xorg.conf so that my login screen and other users' screens come up perfectly, however whenever I log into my profile my resolution is reverted back to my old resolution, and I have to manually change it using CCC. Anyone know how I can make the changes persistent?
[03:44] <bobertdos> funnyman: Do you use a bootloader other than grub?
[03:44] <zonedfull1> Cronix or jordan U
[03:44] <webbb82> im trying to change the mouse button when i do highlight txt then middle click to paste  i have a 4 button mouse how can i change it from middle click to another button
[03:44] <zonedfull1> I am here now
[03:44] <zonedfull1> Thanx for answering me
[03:44] <funnyman> bobertdos: tbh, i'm not sure
[03:44] <bobertdos> funnyman: In the terminal, can you cd /boot/grub?
[03:44] <zebi_> anyone know linux mint distribution
[03:45] <funnyman> bobertdos: no :(
[03:45] <ShapeShifter499> how do I install win 7 rc 7100 build onto my comp with ubuntu with out loosing my ability to load ubuntu?
[03:45] <Xgates> does anyone know why  DKMS fails to build Nvidia on new kernels, is it because the Nvidia packs are just meant for certain kernels?
[03:45] <Jordan_U> harisund: There are a few options for video chat, empathy, the newest version of Pidgin ( which is not in 9.04 ), ekiga ( which comes pre-installed ) and skype ( which is proprietary )
[03:45] <Xgates> I want to install a new kernel and DKSM fails to build nvidia
[03:45] <harisund> Jordan_U, I didn't know Skype on linux supported video chat. Thank you! Will try that out
[03:45] <Jordan_U> harisund: I don't have experience with any of them though so no reccomendation :)
[03:46] <bobertdos> funnyman: Wait, wait, first look in Places to see if your Ubuntu partition is listed there. If it is, select it and it will mount, usually to the /media folder.
[03:46] <funnyman> bobertdos: if i use File Browser, i see 3 partitions, 1 is 2GB which has folder "grub", "lost+found" and all the initrd.img
[03:46] <zonedfull1> Jodan_U: what did u want me to send..
[03:47] <funnyman> bobertdos: I also see a 60G partition (which is probably my ubuntu partition) but when i click ,it says ...
[03:47] <ShapeShifter499> nvm
[03:47] <ShapeShifter499> bye
[03:47] <ShapeShifter499> :(
[03:47] <Jordan_U> zonedfull1: First pastebin ( don't paste into the channel ) the output of "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[03:47] <funnyman> "Unable to moung: wrong fs type, bad toption, bad superblock on /dev/sda3, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[03:48] <zonedfull1> can I paste IT private to you?
[03:48] <Jordan_U> funnyman: What are you trying to do?
[03:48] <Jordan_U> zonedfull1: It's better if you use pastebin so others can help
[03:48] <bobertdos> funnyman: Sounds to me like that partition was never completely formatted.
[03:48] <Jordan_U> !paste | zonedfull1
[03:49] <funnyman> bobertdos: I just tried to click on that partition , using the File Browser . The fact is i'm in Live Ubuntu now and i don't know what to do next :)
[03:50] <funnyman> bobertdos: Oh, and another WINDOW Partition which is browse-able
[03:50] <Jordan_U> funnyman: What are you trying to do?
[03:50] <funnyman> Jordan_U: i'm trying to fix the fs
[03:50] <bobertdos> funnyman: You know, you may need to install again. It really sounds like that Ubuntu partition is corrupt.
[03:51] <zonedfull1> Is this the way to do it:http://paste.ubuntu.com/276722/
[03:51] <funnyman> Jordan_U: i'm in live Ubuntu, and i can't access my installed ubuntu partition :(
[03:51] <Jordan_U> funnyman: Ok, can you pastebin the output of "sudo fdisk -l"?
[03:51] <funnyman> bobertdos: that sounds real bad to me
[03:51] <webbb82> did you guys know that to copy and paste very easly is just highlight what you want to copy , then whereever you want it pasted just click on the middle mouse button and it will automaticly paist it there. i cant do this because i have 4 buttons rather than 3
[03:52] <funnyman> Jordan_U: ok, 1 sec
[03:52] <bullgard4> lstarnes: Ah, thank you for explaining.
[03:52] <Fohn> Hello. I've gotten a new monitor and I have it configured with proper resolution and refresh rates in xorg.conf so that my login screen and other users' screens come up perfectly, however whenever I log into my profile my resolution is reverted back to my old resolution, and I have to manually change it using CCC. Anyone know how I can make the changes persistent?
[03:53] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: How did you try to install java the very first time?
[03:53] <Jordan_U> Fohn: What do you mean "using CCC" ?
[03:53]  * nit is back.
[03:54] <Fohn> Jordan_U: Catalyst control Center, the proprietary AMD display manager.
[03:54] <mgv1> what can i do to play these radios? one ubuntu do that and i want to make others too
[03:54] <mgv1> http://radio.coolsite.co.il/radio.php?radio=8
[03:54] <Clm> hi
[03:54] <dragonlyre> !hi |Clm
[03:54] <funnyman> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.org/22834 pls have a look
[03:54] <Clm> getting an error when i try to  mount my drive
[03:55] <zonedfull1> bobertdos: My girlfriend tried to do it and she insatlled via synaptic an she innstalle everyting with java there...5 and 6....do I have to reformat again?
[03:55] <Fohn> !details | Clm
[03:55] <Clm> mount: can't find /dev/sda5/mnt in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[03:55] <Dallas> Can someone give me a beginner's guide to learning ubuntu and maybe some starter software?
[03:55] <zonedfull1> she also tried to install the selfextracted from Java.com to I think
[03:56] <funnyman> Jordan_U: I have dual boot windows + ubuntu
[03:56] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: oh boy
[03:56] <zonedfull1> and no java came and ..no flash playing no java and no synaotic ... Hoffff :)
[03:56] <Jordan_U> funnyman: Run "sudo fsck /dev/sda3" to check and optionally repair that partititon
[03:57] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: Uninstall everything java related that you can from Synaptic.
[03:57] <zonedfull1> I cant cause I cant get into synaptic...I got error then
[03:57] <gnychis> does anyone here use a Thinkpad X300?
[03:57] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: What's the error you get with Synaptic.
[03:58] <Fohn> Dallas: Most of your basic software comes preinstalled with ubuntu. The best way to learn is just learning as you go, but if you have questions, feel free to ask on here, or peruse the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/index.php
[03:58] <Jordan_U> zonedfull1: Can you please pastebin the output of "sudo dpkg --configure -a" ?
[03:58] <funnyman> Jordan_U: Sometimes, it asks like "Deleted inode 245769 has zero dtime. Fix <y>? ", what should i do? "y" ?
[03:58] <Jordan_U> zonedfull1: If you can't use pastebin for some reason then you can pm it to me but I would prefer pastebin
[03:58] <Lazard> Ubuntu is a good operating system.
[03:58] <Lazard> It is.
[03:58] <prince_jammys> Clm: what's the command that gave you that error? looks like you forgot to type a space.
[03:58] <init_> how ubuntu read and write  ntfs external hdd ?
[03:58] <zonedfull1> I have done that
[03:59] <Fohn> !pm | Clm
[03:59] <zonedfull1> Pastebin
[03:59] <Lazard> I need to repeat that to me seveeral times.
[03:59] <Jordan_U> funnyman: Most likely yes, do you know what corrupted the partition?
[03:59] <Lazard> Until I believe it.
[03:59] <zonedfull1> http://paste.ubuntu.com/276722/
[03:59] <ctmjr> Dallas: this will get you started http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download_main.html
[03:59] <linuxguy2009> I have Ubuntu on this machine Im using now and I need to reinstall Windows XP on my netbook.Is there any way to install from a flashdrive? I tried unetbootin but all I get is a Default option at bootup and it just loops back again.
[03:59] <zonedfull1> wasnt that correct jordan_U
[03:59] <funnyman> Jordan_U: i'm not sure, yesterday I used Windows to burn some data, today I could login, and after opening Firefox, the system restarted and there it went...
[04:00] <Jordan_U> zonedfull1: Yes that was what I wanted
[04:00] <thiebaude> !usb
[04:00] <zonedfull1> Thank u so much for helping me
[04:00] <funnyman> Jordan_U: 99% of the time i use this Ubuntu box to develop some PHP apps, and that's about it, nothing special i really don't know the reason
[04:00] <zonedfull1> Im very grateful
[04:01] <linuxguy2009> Im not installing Ubuntu from a USB I have a burner on this PC. I want to use Ubuntu to make a bootable USB for installing Windows to another netbook.
[04:01] <gnychis> does anyone here use a Thinkpad X300?
[04:01] <Jordan_U> zonedfull1: Try running "sudo apt-get remove sun-java5-doc" ( you don't need or want it anyway )
[04:01] <Fohn> Hello. I've gotten a new monitor and I have it configured with proper resolution and refresh rates in xorg.conf so that my login screen and other users' screens come up perfectly, however whenever I log into my profile my resolution is reverted back to my old resolution, and I have to manually change it using CCC. Anyone know how I can make the changes persistent?
[04:01] <zonedfull1> ok
[04:01] <funnyman> Jordan_U: it asks my lots of questions whichi i don't have a clue, ^^, maybe i'll just go "yes" every time :P
[04:02] <brianV> is there any easy way to see GPU and CPU temps in Ubuntu?
[04:02] <Xgates> Say when I try to install the Mainline kernel linux-image-2.6.31-020631 when I install the headers DKMS fails to build Nvidia, anyone can help please?
[04:02] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: Basically, our goal is to get the stuff that's already been installed purged so we can try and start fresh. Here's a hint for future reference. If your comfortable with the terminal, apt-get is your friend. Synaptic is not always so much your friend :P
[04:03] <Jordan_U> Xgates: You installed the mainline headers package?
[04:04] <Xgates> Jordan_U: ahhh didn't know there was such a package to install, is it in Synaptic, look for mainline?
[04:04] <gnychis> does anyone here use a Thinkpad X300?
[04:05] <Jordan_U> Xgates: No, it's in the same "PPA" that you got the mainline kernel image package from
[04:05] <ctmjr> !info lm-sensors | brianV  there is some configuring to it
[04:05] <Xgates> Jordan_U: I got it here:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds?action=show&redirect=KernelMainlineBuilds
[04:06] <Xgates> Jordan_U: I don't see any mainline pack to install...
[04:06] <zonedfull1> Jordan_U: this is what I get then too http://paste.ubuntu.com/276729/
[04:06] <brianV> thanks, ctmjr
[04:07] <Xgates> Jordan_U: I just grabbed the kernels in the archive:   http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?C=M;O=D
[04:07] <funnyman> Jordan_U: it's asked me more than hundreds of questions already, how long is this going to be ? hours?
[04:07] <Jordan_U> zonedfull1: Now remove sun-java6-doc ( sudo apt-get remove sun-java6-doc )
[04:07] <zonedfull1> ok
[04:08] <spree> How do I play a ratDVD format? i have googled some but have not found the right answer, lots of junk links
[04:08] <ctmjr> brianV: your welcome you might want too google it to see how to set it up it's been a long time since i played with it
[04:08] <zonedfull1> Thid I successfully remove java5 there
[04:08] <zonedfull1> ?
[04:09] <Jordan_U> funnyman: You can just hold down the y, key. You might have lost some files though so when its done I would back up anything important and just know that you may need to re-install ( usually files lost are system files rather than personal files, just because there are so many more of them :)
[04:09] <zonedfull1> Jordan_u yes: its removed..
[04:09] <funnyman> Jordan_U: Thanks
[04:10] <Jordan_U> zonedfull1: Ok, are you still getting any errors?
[04:10] <kannan01> i want only one instance of mplayer when selecting second media file... can any on help me avoid mplayer opening in second instance..!!
[04:10] <Jordan_U> funnyman: np
[04:10] <Xgates> Jordan_U: you talking about the Linux Headers? If so that's the problem when I try to install I think it's the generic one it won't compile Nvidia module
[04:11] <Jordan_U> funnyman: The files that fsck finds but doesn't know the name of ( or what directory they are supposed to be in ) will bin in /lost+found
[04:11] <zonedfull1> Jodan_U now I can get into the synaptic ..GREAT! THANK U...But how do I install java now...and the Adobe Flash Player....That would be the greatest EVER
[04:11] <dios_mio> how do I record my voice?
[04:11] <zonedfull1> or to play flash movies
[04:11] <zonedfull1> Cause I cant
[04:12] <Fohn> dios_mio, you can go to applications>sound and video>sound recorder for a very basic gui recording tool.
[04:12] <funnyman> Jordan_U: Oh, thanks, neverknew the meaning of that directory until now :)
[04:12] <Strife89> Ugh, this is unfortunate. I accidentally unchecked Enable Networking, but when I rechecked it my Wi-Fi wouldn't connect. I flipped off and on the manual switch, and now Ubuntu won't detect the interface at all. Now what?
[04:12] <dios_mio> fohn thans
[04:12] <spree> How do I play a ratDVD format? i have googled some but have not found the right answer, lots of junk links
[04:12] <felixsulla> I am on a laptop, and I use an external monitor. Every time I reboot, I have to go back into the Nvidia controls to tell Ubuntu to use my external monitor only. How do I make it remember automatically?
[04:13] <funnyman> Jordan_U: btw, i've made the "Enter" key stuck, it's going "fine", hehe, killing lots of things...
[04:13] <Jordan_U> Xgates: You need to install the header package from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[04:13] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: Okay, now, make this easier on yourself and use the terminal to begin with. Use sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin. For flash, we need to make sure the multiverse repo is enabled and then sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree.
[04:13] <Jordan_U> Xgates: The kernel headers always need to match the running kernel
[04:13] <Fohn> dios_mio: No problem. If you want a tool with more features, you can check out audacity at http://audacity.sourceforge.net/
[04:13] <thiebaude> felixsulla, try saving as root
[04:13] <zonedfull1> ok bobertdos...
[04:13] <dios_mio> fohn, thanks
[04:13] <zonedfull1> Thank u so much
[04:13] <zonedfull1> I try that now
[04:14] <Strife89> Ugh, this is unfortunate. I accidentally unchecked Enable Networking, but when I rechecked it my Wi-Fi wouldn't connect. I flipped off and on the manual switch, and now Ubuntu won't detect the interface at all. Now what? Can anyone offer a suggestion?
[04:14] <felixsulla> thiebaude: It's a desktop app, so go to terminal, run gksu Nautilus then open the Nvidia settings and save it? ..
[04:14] <Xgates> Jordan_U: I Just told you I downloaded and installed them from here:  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.31/
[04:14] <bobertdos> zonedfull1 Installing java will ask you to accept the license agreement. Don't forget to use tab to move around when that happens.
[04:14] <zonedfull1> Yes Sir
[04:14] <thiebaude> felixsulla, nvidia-settings
[04:15] <Xgates> Jordan_U: I know what the headers are, I said the problem is when I try to install one of them it won't build Nvidia, Nvidia fails
[04:15] <Fohn> Hello. I've gotten a new monitor and I have it configured with proper resolution and refresh rates in xorg.conf so that my login screen and other users' screens come up perfectly, however whenever I log into my profile my resolution is reverted back to my old resolution, and I have to manually change it using CCC. Anyone know how I can make the changes persistent?
[04:15] <shachaf> What would be the simplest way of getting a newer version of subversion working? Compiling it myself? Karmic has the new version, but I don't want to upgrade yet.
[04:15] <noo> there is water on the moon - i knew it!
[04:15] <felixsulla> Strife89: You can try sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart  .. I have the same problem you are talking about, but I lose internet until I reboot :/
[04:15] <jazz> find /dir/path/ -mmin n means find Files whose data was last modified n minutes ago. How do I find for n seconds ago?
[04:15] <felixsulla> thiebaude: Huh?
[04:15] <zonedfull1> It came up with that sun java plug in is allready innstalled
[04:16] <Jordan_U> Xgates: What error are you getting from DKMS?
[04:16] <Xgates> Jordan_U: there seems to be a problem with the latest kernels that they won't build Nvidia
[04:16] <netbook> Fohn you might want to look up xrandr
[04:16] <Xgates> Jordan_U: it just says build fail is all for nvidia
[04:16] <netbook> i think that is it
[04:16] <zonedfull1> sun java6 is allready in newest version
[04:16] <netbook> fohn are you using nvidia drivers?
[04:16] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: Okay, so then let's turn our attention to Firefox.
[04:17] <Xgates> Jordan_U: I tried with Nvidia 173 and 180 both fail
[04:17] <felixsulla> I am on a laptop, and I use an external monitor. Every time I reboot, I have to go back into the Nvidia controls to tell Ubuntu to use my external monitor only. How do I make it remember automatically?
[04:17] <thiebaude> felixsulla, i had to install nvidia-settings
[04:17] <wzssyqa> it seems that my grub.cfg became a bin file
[04:17] <SudoKing> could anyone point me to a page about how to enter foreign characters (such as accented letters/question marks) in Ubuntu? afaik the alt in windows aren't working for that :S
[04:17] <thiebaude> felixsulla, and then gksudo nvidia-settings to save my settings
[04:17] <Fohn> netbook: Xrandr would change the resolution for my session only. I have ATI drivers, not nvidia drivers.
[04:17] <bobertdos> If you type about:plugins into firefox, do you see the sun plugins for handling java?
[04:17] <netbook> felixsulla nvidia-settings is usually installed when you install restricted video driver support
[04:18] <thiebaude> netbook, yep thats what i did
[04:18] <netbook> fohn if you do man xrandr you will see that there are some default modes
[04:18] <netbook> fohn gah
[04:18] <netbook> sorry
[04:18] <netbook> i meant you should look up xrandr -q all or something like that
[04:18] <zonedfull1> Well NOW its working on my bank ID the Java
[04:18] <netbook> set a default mode
[04:18] <zonedfull1> plugin
[04:18] <gOLDfeesh> I'm having an issue installing AVLD it's a dummy video driver. I did everything the site tells me.. and when I try to modprobe it .. it says it can't find the module
[04:19] <zonedfull1> GREAT
[04:19] <gnychis> does anyone here use a Thinkpad X300?
[04:19] <Strife89> felixsulla: That and rebooting didn't help. :/
[04:19] <zonedfull1> the only thing I want to work now is the flash play of movies
[04:19] <ncfi1013> what application name do i give kopete in port forwarding rules on the router?
[04:19] <felixsulla> Strife89: You aren't by chance on a laptop that has a switch that disables wireless that's been flipped to off..?
[04:19] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: In the terminal, do sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree.
[04:20] <netbook> i am a noob leading the noobs, though i did just deal with this problem
[04:20] <Strife89> felixsulla: It has a swith, but I double-checked, it's on.
[04:20] <zonedfull1> I use this site and cant play the movies here in Firefox: www.vgtv.no
[04:20] <wzssyqa> anyone help me?
[04:20] <gOLDfeesh> I'm having an issue installing AVLD it's a dummy video driver. I did everything the site tells me.. and when I try to modprobe it .. it says it can't find the module PASTEBIN: http://pastebin.com/d3e6b506e
[04:20] <Xgates> Jordan_U: shouldn't any of the mainline kernels build Nvidia?
[04:20] <wzssyqa>  it seems that my grub.cfg became a bin file
[04:20] <thiebaude> wzssyqa, what is your question?
[04:21] <ncfi1013> i cant connect to my contacts in kopete. it keeps saying that they are offline and that wait till they are online or use software that supports offline protocol.
[04:21] <wzssyqa> thie
[04:21] <felixsulla> Strife89: If you go to edit connections, and under Wireless tab is your router there?
[04:21] <Jordan_U> Xgates: Proprietary drivers often don't build with the latest kernels at first
[04:21] <zonedfull1> It came up with that flashplugin is allready in newest version that to
[04:21] <wzssyqa> thiebaude: so ,i can't edit it
[04:21] <Jordan_U> Xgates: There may be a patch needed
[04:21] <zonedfull1> But i cant play the movies at that site: www.vgtv.no
[04:21] <thiebaude> wzssyqa, i dont know anything about that
[04:21] <musikgoat> wzssyqa: whats the path to the file you are attempting to edit?
[04:22] <Strife89> felixsulla: Yes.
[04:22] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: Okay, so check about:plugins in Firefox. If you have Gnash or other flash alternatives in there, they need to die.
[04:22] <wzssyqa> musikgoat: /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[04:22] <Xgates> Jordan_U: ok if you find a patch please let me know, I'll try an older kernel in the meantime...
[04:22] <_n3ss_> paaa cuanta gente!
[04:22] <_n3ss_> alguien spanish
[04:22] <felixsulla> Strife89: What does ifconfig in terminal show?
[04:22] <jazz> How do you delete files in a directory that are older than 5 seconds?
[04:22] <thiebaude> !es
[04:22] <_n3ss_> buenas a todos
[04:22] <musikgoat> wzssyqa: first, i think you should ask in #ubuntu+1, unless you are running jaunty and grub2
[04:22] <gOLDfeesh> Anyone/
[04:23] <gOLDfeesh> !anyone | gOLDfeesh
[04:23] <gOLDfeesh> lol.
[04:23] <Strife89> felixsulla: Only eth0 and lo. Odd, wlan0 should be there....
[04:23] <musikgoat> wzssyqa: second, the file you edit is in /etc/default
[04:23] <_n3ss_> Muchas Gracias UBOTTU
[04:23] <thiebaude> !thanks
[04:23] <musikgoat> wzssyqa: once you've edited that file, you then run sudo update-grub and it will write it to the grub.cfg
[04:23] <felixsulla> Strife89: Agreed, I think Ubuntu has dumbed your ethernet card?
[04:24] <gOLDfeesh> Anyways, my question any idea as to why I can't load the module? Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/d3e6b506e
[04:24] <wzssyqa> musikgoat: t will try
[04:24] <Strife89> felixsulla: Is a reinstall in order?
[04:24] <musikgoat> wzssyqa: i think its /etc/default/grub.something... i don't have grub2 on this machine
[04:24] <felixsulla> Strife89: I dont think you should have to do that.. there is probably a way to get it to recognize your wireless again.
[04:24] <ncfi1013> what application name do i give kopete in port forwarding rules on the router?i cant connect to my contacts in kopete. it keeps saying that they are offline and that wait till they are online or use software that supports offline protocol.
[04:24] <_n3ss_> Gracais, hasta luego, bye
[04:25] <zonedfull1> bobertdos I have shockwave flash there
[04:25] <frybye> hi - when I try and use jaunty live-cd with gparted to prepare some old pc's for installing win2000 (at work = no choice-) I am not sure what settings to use...
[04:25] <gnychis> does anyone here use a Thinkpad X300?
[04:26] <zonedfull1> and qucktime with Totem
[04:26] <Jordan_U> zonedfull1: When you go to that site to you get a message about missing plugins or does the video just not play?
[04:26] <frybye> I tried to take the file format DOS and then make particions with fat32 but the cd the boss gave us with an image of win2000 for this hardware did not work.... any ideas??
[04:26] <zonedfull1> the video just not play
[04:26] <Strife89> felixsulla: Question is ... what?
[04:26] <zonedfull1> not any question
[04:26] <wzssyqa> musikgoat: it seems that have a grub
[04:26] <sebsebseb> frybye: Do Microsoft even provide support for Windows 2000 anymore?
[04:27] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, no
[04:27] <musikgoat> wzssyqa: what?
[04:27] <thiebaude> sebsebseb, its past extended support
[04:27] <felixsulla> Strife89: Lets dig around on Google here...
[04:27] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: Anything else besides shockwave flash? What version does it list?
[04:27] <wzssyqa> musikgoat: but in it ,there is no item for boot
[04:27] <frybye> sebsebseb: not sure - but I have no say in such decisions at the job - just expected to do what I am told...
[04:27] <sebsebseb> thiebaude: yes that's what I thought, so what's this about frybye  having to  prepare  computers for Windows 2000?
[04:27] <Strife89> sebsebseb: No.
[04:27] <musikgoat> !grub2 | wzssyqa
[04:27] <wzssyqa> musikgoat: i am trying boot arch from ubuntu's grub2
[04:27] <D3RGPS31> anyone know of a way to set the boot resolution to something the framebuffer doesn't support (grub2)
[04:28] <sebsebseb> frybye: ok well that's silly,  but  should  be able to just delete the partitions on the 2000 CD and install,  or use gparted to delete tehm
[04:28] <musikgoat> wzssyqa: maybe you should ask in #arch
[04:28] <zonedfull1> seems like its totem that handles everyting
[04:28] <Jordan_U> frybye: If that install CD can install to those computers it can format them itself. You might want to ask in ##windows
[04:28] <musikgoat> wzssyqa: or #archlinux
[04:28] <thiebaude> frybye, just install the cd
[04:29] <zonedfull1> exept flash that is shockwave flash 9.0 r999
[04:29] <wzssyqa> musikgoat: but i am using the ubuntu's grub
[04:29] <Jordan_U> wzssyqa: What happens when you run "sudo update-grub" ?
[04:29] <ncfi1013> what application name do i give kopete in port forwarding rules on the router? and i cant connect to my contacts in kopete. it keeps saying that they are offline and that wait till they are online or use software that supports offline protocol.
[04:29] <frybye> sebsebseb: the boss does not want us to use the win2000 install cd - he has a pre-prepared image that is supposed to match the hardware we have ... my question is what settings in gparted to use....?
[04:29] <zonedfull1> jodan_U: nothing happens yes it doesnt ask for codecs or anything
[04:29] <wzssyqa> Jordan_U: i can't edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[04:30] <Strife89> felixsulla: I can't search, my DS is my only way to the Internet 'till my laptop's back up, and it's running ClIRC at the moment.
[04:30] <musikgoat> wzssyqa: no you are simply using grub2, and trying to boot to arch,  most people here aren't yet familiar with grub2, but that link ubottu gave ou might help
[04:30] <Jordan_U> wzssyqa: You shouldn't edit it
[04:30] <jimbeam12> GPG error: http://packages.medibuntu.org jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EBC26B60C5A2783
[04:30] <musikgoat> Jordan_U: i gave him the correct path to /etc/default/grub
[04:30] <frybye> hmmm... I am confused myself - my college is deaf+dumb and it is hard to communicate with him... have no figured out how this image is supposed to be installed....
[04:30] <sebsebseb> frybye: Gparted is for  making and deleting partitions that kind of thing,  not using prepared images
[04:30] <D3RGPS31> anyone know of a way to set the boot resolution to something the framebuffer doesn't support
[04:30] <Jordan_U> wzssyqa: When you run "sudo update-grub" does update-grub add an entry for arch?
[04:30] <kandjar> I'm having an issue using screen: on a remote computer i have screen running for user1, I ssh to that box with user2, then i 'su' to log on with user1 but i can't do "screen -r"; any reason why?
[04:30] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: Eee, yeah, not good
[04:31] <sebsebseb> frybye: as far as I know
[04:31] <ctmjr> !keyring | jimbeam12
[04:31] <wzssyqa> Jordan_U: i wiil try
[04:31] <jimbeam12> yeah how to i get it
[04:31] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: Are you on jaunty?
[04:31] <jimbeam12> how do i get it ctmjr
[04:31] <felixsulla> Strife89: What does "lshw -c network" show? Probably no card right?
[04:31] <frybye> sebsebseb: the bs is that at work they have the ports shut off for irc - so I cant get any help there this way...
[04:31] <zonedfull1> bobertdos: shall I remove the shockwave flash then
[04:31] <ctmjr> jimbeam12: on the medibuntu website
[04:31] <wzssyqa> Jordan_U: yes,it find it
[04:32] <musikgoat> frybye: do they have ssh port disabled?
[04:32] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: yes
[04:32] <zonedfull1> ok I try that
[04:32] <musikgoat> frybye: ssh home, and run irssi from there,  screen+irssi = win!
[04:32] <zonedfull1> and then close firefox
[04:32] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: You're not trying Koala, are you?
[04:32] <Jordan_U> D3RGPS31: If the kernel framebuffer can't support it you can't get that resolution without X. Note that KMS drivers will support the same resolutions for X and the framebuffer
[04:32] <wzssyqa> Jordan_U: but,ubuntu have become non-unix
[04:32] <Strife89> felixsulla: Actually, it's there ... Says it's disabled.
[04:32] <frybye> musikgoat: dont know really.... they ahve some sort of proxy running there that dosent allow one to do much at all...
[04:32] <Jordan_U> wzssyqa: How so?
[04:32] <zonedfull1> firefox
[04:32] <musikgoat> wzssyqa: what does that mean?
[04:33] <felixsulla> Strife89: Oh, ok. so we just have to enable it.
[04:33] <musikgoat> wzssyqa: because of grub2?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> frybye: ok I think you should ask in ##windows
[04:33] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: No, I mean Ubuntu version
[04:33] <wzssyqa> musikgoat: i think i can do everything with vi on unix
[04:33] <ctmjr> jimbeam12: or try this sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[04:33] <zonedfull1> No i think this is just ubuntu 9.04
[04:33] <prince_jammys> he means that grub.cfh is no longer a text file, which is not the case (at least in my debian box)
[04:33] <sebsebseb> frybye: ok they have  ports blocked, but are still silly enough to be running 2000 when  Microsoft no longer support it hmm
[04:33] <wzssyqa> musikgoat: but here,i can't
[04:33] <frybye> sebsebseb: always the problem with such questions - in windows they will say "questions about gparted in #ubuntu etc..."
[04:34] <zonedfull1> how do I remove the plug in
[04:34] <sebsebseb> frybye: as far as I know for what you want to use, you don't use gparted
[04:34] <test34> Anyone have a microsoft vx-1000 working ? (I get the green screen-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libv4l/+bug/379024 )
[04:34] <thiebaude> frybye, what do they have on the computers now?
[04:34] <prince_jammys> wzssyqa: what makes you say that grub.cfg is not a text file ?
[04:34] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: sudo apt-get purge libflashplayer-nonfree.
[04:34] <zonedfull1> the only option is to turn it off
[04:34] <felixsulla> Strife89: Um, .. so this is kind of a guess, but try "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up"
[04:34] <Jordan_U> wzssyqa: This is a configuration that is generated by shell scripts ( which you can edit with vi ), it doesn't get more unix than that
[04:34] <scunizi> frybye: I just logged in .. what's the question?
[04:34] <sebsebseb> frybye: as far as I know you can't use some kind of partition backup image with gparted
[04:34] <musikgoat> prince_jammys: grub.cfg should not be hand edited in any case
[04:34] <zonedfull1> shall I do that now?
[04:34] <prince_jammys> musikgoat: doesn't matter.
[04:35] <arooni-mobile> with saytime; i see:  sox formats: no handler for given file type ossdsp ubuntu ... how do i fix?
[04:35] <wzssyqa> Jordan_U: i really can't edit it,now
[04:35] <frybye> the baude.. nothing... the h-ware donated by the police dept for use in the schools.. and the hard disks wiped radically clean...
[04:35] <prince_jammys> text files can be read as well as edited.
[04:35] <thiebaude> frybye, ahh
[04:35] <webbb82> i was trying to install barpanel and i get thnis error unable to read filedescriptor flags for <package status and progress file descriptor>: Bad file descriptor
[04:35] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: Yes, then do the opposite, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree. If that still doesn't work, purge it again and you can try downloading the deb installer from adobe's site.
[04:35] <zonedfull1> boberdos:couldnt find the package
[04:35] <prince_jammys> wzssyqa: you can't edit it because the write permission bit is off.
[04:35] <frybye> sebsebseb: is just the question of which settings to use whe making the partitions...
[04:35] <Strife89> felixsulla: "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailible"
[04:35] <wzssyqa> omg,now,i can
[04:35] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: Are you using 64-bit Ubuntu?
[04:36] <Jordan_U> wzssyqa: It has read only permission because you are supposed to edit the scripts that create the file, not the file itself ( you can edit the file manually if you really want but you shouldn't )
[04:36] <thiebaude> frybye, maybe show your boss ubuntu
[04:36] <sebsebseb> scunizi: frybe  wants to use some kind of 2000 backup image  with gparted
[04:36] <prince_jammys> wzssyqa: that's because you're not supposed to edit that file directly.
[04:36] <wzssyqa> no,i use sudo
[04:36] <prince_jammys> so what?
[04:36] <bobertdos> zonedfull1: Also, if you go into System->Administration->Software Sources, are all the repos checked?
[04:36] <musikgoat> Jordan_U: but wont those edits be overwritten with update-grub?
[04:36] <scunizi> sebsebseb: ah.. that's one of those things you say "good luck" too.
[04:36] <Techie> frybye- are you stuck behind a restrictive proxy? i might be able to help
[04:36] <sebsebseb> scunizi: yes that's what I thought can't be done with gparted
[04:37] <Jordan_U> musikgoat: Yes, which is why you should edit the scripts in /etc/grub.d/ instead
[04:37] <wzssyqa> thanks everybody
[04:37] <m0r0n> Is there anywhere I can get more Compiz plugins or is what is there the only ones?
[04:37] <musikgoat> heh
[04:37] <sebsebseb> frybye: Gparted is for  standard partition stuff, not backups
[04:37] <sebsebseb> frybye: not images of  partition backups
[04:37] <frybye> hang on - I will put this ? on hold for the moment and send the boss a fax pointing out that win2000 is no longer supported by ms and see what he says...
[04:38] <thiebaude> !ccsm
[04:38] <Jordan_U> m0r0n: Have you already installed compiz-fusion-plugins-extra ?
[04:38] <thiebaude> m0r0n, do you have that?
[04:38] <kandjar> anyone??
[04:38]  * Slade is away: Bed time
[04:38] <thiebaude> m0r0n, i use compiz
[04:38] <henry4> hello world
[04:38] <henry4> :)
[04:38] <musikgoat> frybye: hah, gl with that one...my cheap old boss still wont pay for license updates to some of the older machines running win2k
[04:39] <henry4> i facing a firewall problem
[04:39] <m0r0n> Jordan_U: I haven't thanks I'll do that now
[04:39] <henry4> I cannot execute this command in ubuntu 9.04
[04:39] <henry4> sudo iptables 2013A INPOUT 2013p tcp 2013d 0/0 2013s 0/0 2013dport 3306 2013j ACCEPT
[04:39] <jimbeam12> thx ctmjr
[04:39] <henry4> but in Ubuntu 8.0 can
[04:39] <m0r0n> Jordan_U: Oh wait I have.
[04:40] <henry4> may i know what matter?
[04:40] <henry4> is it got changes in the command?
[04:40] <nyu_> gah, i cant get my network settings to work right in vbox
[04:40] <webbb82> i need to install a deb file in the terminal how do i do this
[04:40] <Jordan_U> webbb82: sudo dpkg -i /path/to/package.deb
[04:40] <scunizi> webbb82: dpkg -i <package name>
[04:41] <Techie> nyu_- if your working with other computers on a network make sure you enable the bridge adapter
[04:41] <webbb82> ok
[04:41] <webbb82> thanks for the help
[04:41] <Jordan_U> webbb82: np
[04:41] <nyu_> i got that far
[04:41] <Techie> nyu_- what guest os?
[04:41] <nyu_> win xp
[04:42] <Techie> nyu_- and what is the current problem?
[04:43] <nyu_> not getting internet inside vbox
[04:43] <henry4> how?
[04:43] <Techie> nyu_- is the guestOS being given an ip from your dhcp server?
[04:44] <nyu_> lemme check
[04:44] <nyu_> nope, ip config
[04:44] <nyu_> is blank
[04:44] <scunizi> nyu_: have you installed "guest additions" ?
[04:44] <nyu_> yes
[04:45] <scunizi> nyu_: in a dos box try ipconfig /release then ipconfig /renew
[04:45] <m0r0n> Has anyone purchased the Ubuntu support thing?
[04:45] <nyu_> its acting like its not even seeing a network card
[04:46] <scunizi> nyu_: if you close the winxp guest (shutdown) then in the main vbox window highlight the xp vm and click settings you should be able to change the network card.. the default might not be right
[04:46] <funnyman> hello all, is ubuntu a good candidate for running my web server?
[04:47] <zonedfull> Hello
[04:47] <zonedfull> I had to reboot
[04:47] <nyu_> what do i need to change it to though?
[04:47] <zonedfull> to put on english menus so I could see what u ment
[04:48] <scunizi> nyu_: you'll see different options.. go from one to the next. .. I'll look at mine for my win2k install and see what it's set at.
[04:48] <nyu_> i figured it out
[04:48] <nyu_> windows was using the wrong driver for my nic
[04:48] <nyu_> reinstalled driver and now im good
[04:48] <Mano> can any one tel me what does dep mean
[04:48] <scunizi> nyu_: so now it works?
[04:48] <nyu_> yep
[04:49] <zonedfull> I cant remeberr the name of the helpful man that helped me here for about 5 minutes ago
[04:49] <scunizi> nyu_: good.. are you using the vbox from the repos or their site?
[04:49] <demonspork> hi, I am using gExec for my alt+f2 run dialog (the run box is usually provided by gnome-panel, which I have disabled) but every time I open it, the window pops up in a seemingly random location. How do I make it come up in the same spot every time?
[04:49] <Maximo> search it
[04:49] <nyu_> thier site
[04:49] <zonedfull> I should go to softtware sources and check the repos?
[04:49] <scunizi> nyu_: good.. you'll have usb support then..
[04:50] <arooni-mobile> how do i have ubuntu jaunty speak the current time?   saytime results that => sox formats: can't open output file `/dev/audio': Device or resource busy
[04:51] <bobertdos> zonedfull: There was me and Jordan_U
[04:51] <zonedfull> thank U so much
[04:51] <SpacePigeon> arooni-mobile, $ sudo apt-get install aoss && aoss saytime
[04:51] <zonedfull> boberdis...I was afraid losing u
[04:52] <zonedfull> what repos do u mean
[04:52] <zonedfull> Im into software sources no
[04:52] <SpacePigeon> !tab | zonedfull
[04:52] <arooni-mobile> E: Couldn't find package aoss
[04:52] <SpacePigeon> arooni-mobile, try alsa-oss
[04:52] <treyh> what room do you guys use for php
[04:52] <bobertdos> If you go into Software Sources, check to make sure multiverse is checked. That contains flash.
[04:52] <treyh> tried ##php but it's full
[04:53] <arooni-mobile> SpacePigeon, already installed
[04:53] <crdlb> !register | treyh
[04:53] <SpacePigeon> then run $ aoss saytime
[04:53] <SpacePigeon> arooni-mobile, if alsa is working then saytime should work
[04:53] <treyh> crdlb: you have to register to join that room?
[04:53] <crdlb> treyh: it's forwarding you to ##overflow because you're not registered, not because it's "full"
[04:54] <Xgates> Can we get the Nvidia 185 in Synaptic?
[04:54] <zonedfull> bobertdos: Umean the updates under software sources?
[04:54] <scunizi> Xgates: might be in the next release.. the only other option is to go through the install steps for it
[04:54] <zonedfull> ubottu: Thank U
[04:55] <zonedfull> lol
[04:55] <zonedfull> it s a bot
[04:55] <Xgates> scunizi:  ok so only use the source for now, not in any repo?
[04:55] <henry4> hello
[04:55] <bobertdos> zonedfull: No, first tab, where it says Ubuntu Software, make sure (multiverse) is checked under "Downloadable ofrom the Internet"
[04:55] <scunizi> Xgates: yep.. are you having problems with the repo version?
[04:55] <SpacePigeon> arooni-mobile, so
[04:55] <Xgates> scunizi: I need a newer kernel for a macbook so I can reboot, that means having a newer driver too
[04:56] <dios_mio> trying to record voice locks up my pc
[04:56] <Logomachist> After I customize the Gnome applications menu, when I reboot the Gnome panels don't load and I need to delete my customizations in the .local/share/applications directory to get Ubuntu working again. This has happened twice and it is really annoying b/c I don't like the default setup. I would like to report this bug and maybe find a fix, but where do I report it?
[04:56] <ryguy> Hey, when creating a .deb file, will the packages under "depends" autoinstall when they install my .deb? Or do they have to be under "pre-depends" to autoinstall?
[04:57] <scunizi> Xgates: install dkms and then with the new kernel it may be updated correctly with the repo driver.. if not you'll have to revert back to the nv driver (generic) and then do the install for the newer driver from nvidia
[04:57] <zonedfull> bobertdos: cant see that tick...I can only see since I am from Norway download from server in Norway
[04:57] <xangua> Logomachist: are you using a stable or suported ubuntu¿
[04:58] <Logomachist> 9.04, the latest stable version.
[04:58] <m0r0n> Anyone own an ION record player and use it with Ubuntu
[04:58] <Logomachist> xangua: Yes 9.04
[04:58] <zonedfull> bobertdos: Under the first tab siftware updates
[04:59] <bobertdos> zonedfull: Is there a tab that says Ubuntu Software?
[04:59] <zonedfull> yes
[05:00] <bobertdos> zonedfull: Okay, so that tab, what all is in it?
[05:01] <zonedfull> downloadable from internet :
[05:01] <bobertdos> zonedfull: Do you see check boxes there?
[05:01] <Ben64> !work
[05:02] <zonedfull> Canonical supported open source, community maintained open source,property drivers, software restrivted (multivers)
[05:02] <zonedfull> Everyting is checked
[05:02] <bullgard4> '~$ /usr/lib/evolution/2.22/evolution-addressbook-export --format=csv > contacts.csv; *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/evolution/2.22/evolution-addressbook-export: free(): invalid pointer: 0xb7c9b58a ***; [05:03] <zonedfull> bobertdos: multiverse is there and checked
[05:03] <Kingtiger01> sounds like you need more debugging info...
[05:03] <bobertdos> zonedfull: Okay, that's what I needed to know. Now, do you know if you're running 32-bit or 64-bit Ubuntu?
[05:03] <zonedfull> 32
[05:04] <bobertdos> zonedfull: Okay, maybe it would be easier if we used Synaptic now.
[05:04] <zonedfull> bobertdos: for sure...sorry that I didnt see multivers at the first time
[05:04] <zonedfull> ok
[05:04] <zonedfull> Synaptic no
[05:04] <zonedfull> w
[05:04] <Kingtiger01> off topic, but what Version of Ubuntu are most o you running
[05:04] <bobertdos> zonedfull: Use Synaptic to search for something like flash nonfree
[05:04] <WzCocoon> does anybody know when the next version of ubuntu is going out?
[05:05] <gizmobay> When installing Ubuntu with full disk encrypt, do you still need to use cryptoswap?
[05:05] <Kingtiger01> Karmic Koala you mean?
[05:05] <WzCocoon> the next one
[05:05] <lstarnes> Kingtiger01: karmic hasn't been released yet
[05:05] <Kingtiger01> i know...
[05:05] <Kingtiger01> its a Dev. Branch
[05:05] <WzCocoon> I know it is not out yet but when
[05:06] <lstarnes> WzCocoon: october 29
[05:06] <WzCocoon> cool thanks
[05:06] <Kingtiger01> idk, but i beleive i read some where october 09
[05:06] <arooni-mobile> how do i have ubuntu jaunty speak the current time?   saytime results that => sox formats: can't open output file `/dev/audio': Device or resource busy
[05:06] <WzCocoon> Kingtiger01: lstarnes: ok thnaks
[05:06] <zonedfull> It is innstalled
[05:06] <gOLDfeesh> Anyways, my question any idea as to why I can't load the module? Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/d3e6b506e
[05:06] <gOLDfeesh> or http://pastebin.com/d3bfb6b9c
[05:06] <zonedfull> flashplugin-nonfree
[05:07] <brooks[WF]> lol
[05:07] <Kingtiger01> Sorry lstanes.. didnt notice youre message prior..
[05:07] <pren> hi, i run intrepid and it keeps disconnecting from the internet (LAN) if i don't use it for more than 20 minutes, what can i do?
[05:07] <bobertdos> zonedfull: Mark it for complete uninstallation.
[05:08] <zonedfull> ok
[05:08] <zonedfull> bobertdos: Ok I do that
[05:08] <m0r0n> alsa-util.c: Cannot find fallback mixer control "Mic" or mixer control is no combination of switch/volum
[05:08] <bobertdos> zonedfull: Now, just in case, let's search for gnash
[05:08] <m0r0n> What does that mean?
[05:09] <cms-affla> may anyone help me with a issue on the /etc/apt/source.lst being broken ?
[05:09] <lstarnes> cms-affla: how is it broken?
[05:09] <zonedfull> bobertdos: gnash is not innstalled
[05:10] <zonedfull> bobertdos: I can see
[05:10] <arooni-mobile> how do i speak current time on ubuntu jaunty?  i have intel-hda-snd card equivalent.
[05:10] <urthmover>  /exit
[05:10] <zonedfull> bobertdos: Shal I now uninstall that flashplugin-nonfree
[05:10] <bobertdos> zonedfull: yes
[05:11] <henry4> wonder
[05:11] <henry4> in ubuntu 9
[05:11] <bobertdos> zonedfull: After that, go into firefox and check about:plugins again. We want to be sure we don't see anything flash related in there anymore.
[05:11] <cms-affla> lstnares: well it says error in line # please report this bug
[05:11] <henry4> the domain name point to 127.0.1.1
[05:11] <tux9778> does it matter witch bit to use 32 or 64 since i have 64?
[05:12] <lstarnes> cms-affla: please pastebin the full contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:12] <cms-affla> lstnares: and i cannot update anything or erase it
[05:12] <zonedfull> bobertdos: It is also something called flashplugin installer shall I ununstall that too?
[05:12] <henry4> why is like this?
[05:12] <bobertdos> zonedfull: yes
[05:12] <lstarnes> tux9778: 64-bit intel/amd processors should support 32-bit code for intel/amd processors too
[05:12] <cms-affla> ok brb
[05:12] <zonedfull> ok
[05:12] <filesystemquesti> In a nut shell, what is the diff between ext2 and ext3 and which do I want for a number crunching linux system.  or does it matter ?
[05:13] <tux9778> ok lstarnes i was wondering witch one should get?
[05:13] <lstarnes> tux9778: whichever you wan
[05:13] <lstarnes> *want
[05:13] <sparr> hy does this only output pixels from background.png?  convert photo.png background.png -fx "((abs(u.hue-v.hue)<8)&&(abs(u.saturation-v.saturation)<8)&&(abs(u.lightness-v.lightness)<16))?v:u" out.png
[05:13] <zonedfull> bobertdos: and other thing in flash is SWFplayer and libsw
[05:13] <scunizi> filesystemquesti: ext3 has journaling for better recovery if there is an issue.. ext2 doesn't
[05:13] <lstarnes> tux9778: if you need access to 4 GB of RAM or more, you will most likely need the 64-bit version
[05:13] <Jordan_U> filesystemquesti: What kind of number crunching?
[05:13] <demonspork> how do I get a window to open in the same place on the desktop when it is opened?  I have one that seems to choose a random place to open
[05:14] <bobertdos> zonedfull: get rid of all that too
[05:14] <tux9778> ok thanks
[05:14] <lstarnes> tux9778: there are a couple things that are harder to get working in 64-bit, like flash and java, but it's usually not very hard to get those working on 64-bit
[05:14] <cms-affla> lstnares: i know were the issue is it just wont let me overide the prompt to erase or fix it
[05:14] <tux9778> ok
[05:14] <lstarnes> cms-affla: alt+f2; gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:14] <zonedfull> bobertdos: swfdec for mozilla too?
[05:14] <tux9778> what about 3d? lstarnes
[05:14] <lstarnes> tux9778: if you think compatibility may be an issue, use the 32-bit version
[05:14] <bobertdos> zonedfull: yes
[05:15] <zonedfull> bobertdos: Ok SIR
[05:15] <lstarnes> tux9778: my 64-bit install of ubuntu supports accelerated 3D using nvidia's drivers
[05:15] <bobertdos> zonedfull: basically, after everything is gone, the only thing flash related we want installed is flashplugin-nonfree.
[05:15] <big12Inchdisk> jordan_u we have a nural net that is crunching financial data for stock markets and currency trading. We use a 16 core cluster and i takes about 3 hours for simple runs, up to 18 for heavy data mining and processing.
[05:16] <ryguy> Hey, when creating a .deb file, will the packages under "depends" autoinstall when they install my .deb? Or do they have to be under "pre-depends" to autoinstall?
[05:16] <Jordan_U> bobertdos: The actual package is flashplugin-installer, flashplugin-nonfree is just a transitional package that does nothing but depend on flashplugin-installer
[05:16] <zonedfull> bobertdos: Everyting is removed
[05:16] <Crash1hd> ok what is the command to get something to run hourly in a cronjob? I was trying this 60 * * * * /usr/bin/somedirectory/somecommand
[05:17] <Crash1hd> is that right? and for every minute its 01 * * * * /usr/bin/somedirectory/somecommand
[05:17] <big12Inchdisk> Jordan_U, why do you ask
[05:17] <Jordan_U> big12Inchdisk: If you are reading and writing large contiguous files ext4 might out perform ext3
[05:17] <cms-affla> lstnares: there is a dist parse error now?
[05:17] <tux9778> ok lstarnes when i had it installed fixing to install it agian n sticking with ubuntu 64bit my games with the selctions to choose from automaticly goes up and down whats the issuse
[05:17] <lstarnes> Crash1hd: the former does it at the 60th minute of each hour
[05:18] <lstarnes> Crash1hd: the latter does it ad the first minute of each hour, not minituely
[05:18] <zonedfull> bobertdos: when I went to the site now they reffered me to adobes Homepage since I dont have Flash
[05:18] <lstarnes> Crash1hd: you may want to check man 5 crontab
[05:18] <zonedfull> bobertdos: Mabe we are making progress?
[05:18] <big12Inchdisk> OH, thanks.  The amount of data is actually not that much, except on the large runs.  and then it intermittent.  We use xeons with huge on board cash.
[05:18] <lstarnes> cms-affla: I need more details.  Can you provide me with a pastebin of the errors and your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[05:18] <bobertdos> zonedfull, Jordan-U: Well yes, but whether or not he uses the transitional package, I just want flashplayer-installer to come into a system when no other conflicting plugins are present.
[05:19] <cms-affla> what is wrong with this source? deb cdrom:[Ubuntu-Netbook-Remix 9.04 _Jaunty Jackalope_ - Release i386 (20090421)]/ jaunty main multiverse restricted
[05:19] <cms-affla> deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main multiverse restricted #Added by software-properties
[05:19] <cms-affla> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[05:19] <cms-affla> # newer versions of the distribution.
[05:19] <cms-affla> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[05:19] <cms-affla> ## distribution.
[05:19] <FloodBot1> cms-affla: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:19] <cms-affla> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty-updates main restricted multiverse
[05:19] <lstarnes> cms-affla: I did not say paste
[05:19] <lstarnes> oops.
[05:19] <bobertdos> zonedfull: Now go ahead and mark flashplugin-nonfree for installation again.
[05:19] <dios_mio> ubuntu cannot record sound
[05:19] <dios_mio> is my ensoniq card the problem?
[05:19] <zonedfull> bobertdos: ok flashplugin-nonfree
[05:20] <zonedfull> not in terminal
[05:20] <lstarnes> cms-affla: I didn't say paste
[05:20] <lstarnes> cms-affla: I said pasteBIN
[05:20] <Jordan_U> !away > Spl0it_
[05:21] <lstarnes> cms-affla: try posting to http://paste.ubuntu.com then giving me the link t your post
[05:21] <lstarnes> *to
[05:21] <Spl0it_> ok
[05:21] <cms-affla> lstnares: oh ok sorry
[05:21] <Crash1hd> lstarnes: thanks :)
[05:22] <kraut> moin
[05:22] <zonedfull> bobertdos: Ok install this one:flashplugin-nonfree ver 10.0.32.18Ubuntu0. Adobe flash plugin innstaller (traditonal package)
[05:22] <zonedfull> bobertdos:  Is that correct?
[05:22] <bobertdos> zonedfull: yes
[05:22] <zonedfull> ok
[05:22] <tux9778> lstarnes ttys after install n go from there on graffics right
[05:23] <Spl0it_> Jordan_U -  thanks
[05:23] <Jordan_U> Spl0it_: np
[05:23] <WIGGMPk> Why does tranmission destroy all the throughput on my network?
[05:23] <Spl0it_> lol
[05:23] <lstarnes> tux9778: I'm not sure what you mean by that
[05:24] <zonedfull> Ok done
[05:24] <Jordan_U> WIGGMPk: It ueses a lot of bandwidth, particularly upload
[05:24] <tux9778> lstarnes when i play games the selctions to choose from go up and down on its own
[05:24] <scunizi> WIGGMPk: because it's eating all the bandwidth?
[05:24] <Jordan_U> WIGGMPk: Cap it
[05:24] <bobertdos> zonedfull: Now, try your site again.
[05:24] <Lartza_> How do I make samba share the old fashioned way? Can't right click folder and share(no nautilus, pcmanfm)
[05:25] <Lartza_> So terminal please
[05:25] <WIGGMPk> Jordan_U: scunizi: i guess I should also mention that even with 5kbps UP and 50kbps DOWN caps.. still every other network communicating device on my LAN is just trashed
[05:26] <zonedfull> bobertdos: Nope it now came up with flash 9.0.115 or newer not available?? Download it from the Adobes Homepage
[05:26] <zonedfull> That what it says,,,
[05:26] <Jordan_U> WIGGMPk: Maybe you have a bad router that can't handle many simultanious streams
[05:26] <scunizi> WIGGMPk: you might try a different torrent client and see if that makes a difference.
[05:26] <WIGGMPk> Jordan_U: i seriously doubt that
[05:26] <bobertdos> zonedfull: Did you restart firefox?
[05:26] <anonymous_> maybe there is a truck stuck in your tubes
[05:27] <zonedfull> OHHHHHH MAN YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS sorry for shouting
[05:27] <zonedfull> Finally
[05:27] <dividebyzero> Hey.
[05:28] <gOLDfeesh> Is there a module that can make a v4l driver into a v4l2?
[05:28] <zonedfull> bobertdos Thank u so much...and jodan_U what can I say
[05:28] <zonedfull> THANK YOU
[05:28] <zonedfull> It working
[05:28] <WIGGMPk> Jordan_U: I have had multiple devices download at the same time.. but when using Transmission, it kills throughput on the network..
[05:29] <Jordan_U> WIGGMPk: Run wireshark on the computer running bittorrent and the others and see if there is anything interesting
[05:29] <Kingtiger01> something strange i just noticed... the testnet is not operating the same channel...
[05:29] <Crash1hd> lstarnes: ok so */1 * * * *  does it every minute :) thanks
[05:29] <trinium> dd
[05:29] <Jordan_U> WIGGMPk: Bittorrent can use an absurd amount of streams
[05:29] <WIGGMPk> Jordan_U: I ran wireshark and etherape with nothing out of the ordinary going on
[05:29] <zonedfull> bobertdos: What can I say...Im speechless THANK YOU SO MUCH MAN
[05:30] <WIGGMPk> Jordan_U: I understand that, but capping the download/upload bandwidth should do exactly that..
[05:30] <zonedfull> bobertdos: Im so Grateful
[05:30] <dividebyzero> Anyone mind giving a Ubuntu newbie a hand? I'm trying to set up my wireless network, I installed the ndisgtk, accessed the program, but I cant seem to find my .inf file, or my Windows drive, for that matter.
[05:30] <Jordan_U> WIGGMPk: Capping the bandwidth won't neccisarily reduce the number of streams
[05:30] <bobertdos> zonedfull: Oh yes, no problem. It's what we're here to do.
[05:30] <zonedfull> Jordan_U: Thank u so much for the support
[05:30] <bullgard4> I am going to import my Evolution addressbook to Thunderbird. Thunderbird's import wizard > Import Address Book has an line 'Record data to import=id". What does this 'id' (identifier) mean in Thunderbird's addressbook?
[05:31] <Caimlas_> hi, I'm trying to figure out how to get kdevelop to work on ubuntu 9.04. I can't seem to find the dev packages for it - qtcore and qtgui headers, specifically. they aren't the logical libqtcore4-dev or libqtgui4-dev packages (whereas the same packages sans the -dev are available). what might I look at doing?
[05:31] <Jordan_U> dividebyzero: First, most of the time ndiswrapper is not actually needed. What is the chipset of your wireless card?
[05:31] <Jordan_U> zonedfull: np
[05:31] <WIGGMPk> Jordan_U: other than limiting the peers, there is no other settings in Transmission..
[05:31] <linuxguy2009> Is there a nautilus bug that is keeping samba shares from showing up in my network? I can manually browse to them with the local ip but thats all.
[05:31] <gnychis> does anyone here use an X300 thinkpad?
[05:31] <xangua> dividebyzero: if you can't find it then download it, be shure to use XP drivers
[05:31] <Lartza_> Caimlas_: Ubuntu uses no headers
[05:31] <anonymous_> pringles
[05:31] <Lartza_> Caimlas_: Only normal and dev packages
[05:32] <cms-affla> lstnares: sorry got lost site and pc were tempermental with eachother...http://paste.ubuntu.com/276765/
[05:32] <Kingtiger01> Jordan_U: Not to mention, unless QoS is deployed on the network, it can detirmine some connections are stll local. in some rare cases...
[05:32] <lstarnes> Caimlas_: the -dev packages contain headers
[05:32] <dividebyzero> Uh...lemme see. I ran the  lspci command, but I can't find the chipset...
[05:32] <Commissar_Mo> Hello - I have been having massive issues with Kubuntu (Resolution keeps resetting upon logout, tried all the online solutions without solving...
[05:32] <Caimlas_> Lartza_, ok, I know/realize that. but the dev packages I mention do not appear to be in the repositories.
[05:33] <lstarnes> Caimlas_: they may have different names
[05:33] <Jordan_U> dividebyzero: If you pastebin the output from lspci we can find the chipset
[05:33] <Commissar_Mo> all I'm wondering is this: Will this problem 'go away' if I use Ubuntu?
[05:33] <Lartza_> Caimlas_: Let me see...
[05:33] <zonedfull> bobertdos: I can now remember how the issue was with the flash player ..but what was the problem with the Java how did we solve it do you remember, cause I think I got that problem also on an other PC with Ubuntu...to run the bank id applet with JAVA..Can u shortly describe me what is important to remember to get Java working fully
[05:33] <Caimlas_> Lartza_, I'm using jaunty multiverse and universe
[05:33] <lstarnes> cms-affla: what is http://repo.moblin.org/moblin/releases/test/beta/images/moblin-netbook-ux-beta-20090518-004.img doing in there?
[05:33] <Khisanth> Caimlas_: do you know the name of the .h files that you are missing?
[05:33] <dividebyzero> Alright, one sec...
[05:33] <lstarnes> cms-affla: it appears to be a disk image, not an apt repository
[05:34] <Caimlas_> Khisanth, let me pastebin relevant info
[05:35] <Lartza_> Caimlas_: I see what you mean now...
[05:35] <kennyyu> hi there, i can sftp/ssh in between 2 machines. the only thing that i cannot do is to 'ping' in between two. what should i do to enable the ping?
[05:35] <zonedfull> bobertdos: The reason Im asking is cause I had to reboot my PC u remember and after that I lost where we solved that Java
[05:35] <dividebyzero> Jordan_U: hang on, I got the link here.
[05:35] <Caimlas_> Khisanth, I don't know what the header files are, but they're: #include <QtCore/QFile> #include <QtCore/QTextStream> #include <QtGui/QTextEdit>
[05:35] <Caimlas_> Lartza_, what's up with that? :P
[05:35] <dividebyzero> Dammit, I'm new to IRC too apparently...
[05:36] <lstarnes> kennyyu: one of the machines might be blocking icmp echo requests
[05:36] <dividebyzero> http://pastebin.com/m310994fa
[05:36] <Commissar_Mo> I am having a resolution problem in KUBUNTU - if I just uninstall and do UBUNTU - should this problem in theory go away?
[05:36] <cms-affla> lstnares: it is a custom moblin dist upgrade to integrade moblin with ubuntu
[05:36] <Lartza_> Caimlas_: Have you tried installing libqt4-dev? That might have all the dev files
[05:36] <bobertdos> zonedfull: The most important thing to remember about pretty much all plugins in Linux is that multiple versions of the same plugin really butt heads -- they don't get along at all. So you always just want one version a  plugin installed. With Java, the main problem was that there were broken pieces of both version 5 and 6 and they were causing conflicts.
[05:36] <kennyyu> lstarnes: yes. so 'sudo ufw enable icmp' suffices?
[05:36] <lstarnes> cms-affla: you cannot use a disk image in sources.list
[05:36] <dividebyzero> Theres my pastebin.
[05:36] <cms-affla> lstnares: I had it but it broke and when updated the package it broke
[05:36] <lstarnes> kennyyu: I'm not sure
[05:36] <zonedfull> YEs.,...
[05:36] <Caimlas_> Lartza_, that's installed already. :-/
[05:36] <zonedfull> That was the issue....
[05:36] <cms-affla> lstnares: it was working for updates, but so i should delete it?
[05:37] <lstarnes> kennyyu: I don't recall it being blocked by default, but I use iptables directly instead of using ufw
[05:37] <Jordan_U> kennyyu: Ubuntu replys to icmp echo requests by default
[05:37] <zonedfull> bobertdos:  What Java package shall be innstalled...
[05:37] <Lartza_> Caimlas_: Have you tried doing the thing you need it for?
[05:37] <lstarnes> cms-affla: if it's not an apt deb repository, you can't use it
[05:37] <kennyyu> Jordan_U: ya but i'm using the AMI instances provided by Amazon
[05:37] <Lartza_> Caimlas_: And it whines about it?
[05:37] <Caimlas_> Lartza_, it does.
[05:37] <dividebyzero> God, I'm such a newbie.
[05:37] <Khisanth> Caimlas_: libqt4-dev
[05:38] <cms-affla> lstnares; so it was a bug that made it work the first few times?
[05:38] <Lartza_> Khisanth: Doesn't work
[05:38] <lstarnes> cms-affla: it may have just ignored it
[05:38] <kennyyu> lstarnes: i'm pastebin'ing my iptable for you to have a look. do you mind it? ;)
[05:38] <Crash1hd> umm this is odd I dont have add/remove anymore?
[05:38] <bobertdos> zonedfull: sun-java6-plugin (for firefox) which will bring sun-java6-jre with it as a dependency.
[05:38] <lstarnes> kennyyu: I'm not that good with iptables
[05:38] <Khisanth> you might want to reinstall that package then ... http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/i386/libqt4-dev/filelist
[05:38] <zonedfull> bobertdos: what did we version install...at the end...
[05:38] <Khisanth> Lartza_: and check your include paths :)
[05:38] <kennyyu> lstarnes: never mind ;)
[05:38] <lstarnes> kennyyu: the output from sudo iptables-save should be sufficient
[05:38] <funnyman> Jordan_U, you're stil there? I finished fsck from Live Ubuntu, now when i reboot, it goes straight to BusyBox with a useless (to me) list of commands, pls help
[05:38] <cms-affla> lstnares: i had moblin, openbox, ubuntu, kubuntu, and freedos before it broke now it is just ubuntu
[05:38] <gogereaver1> does anyone know if there going to keep doing ubuntu moblin remix
[05:38] <bobertdos> zonedfull: 6
[05:39] <Lartza_> Khisanth: HE should check, not my problem :)
[05:39] <cms-affla> lstnares: lol now im confused as to how to restore the integrated desktop
[05:39] <Khisanth> oh right
[05:39] <Khisanth> getting mixed up
[05:39] <zonedfull> bobertdos: So the only java that should be needed for normal install is the Sun java6 plugin
[05:39] <Jordan_U> funnyman: For some reason your root file system still can't be mounted
[05:39] <Lartza_> It happens
[05:39] <lstarnes> cms-affla: I don't know either
[05:39] <Khisanth> but those files are in the package ...
[05:39] <dividebyzero> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.com/m310994fa, theres the pastebin.
[05:39] <Caimlas_> larsig, Khisanth: apt-file search QTextEdit says it should be at /usr/include/qt4/QtGui/QTextEdit - and it is (libqt4-dev -is- installed). However, kdevelop is complaining.
[05:39] <Pulledteeth> Ubuntu does not detect USB storage devices after it's been running for a bit of time. It sees it in lsusb, but not block device is created/detected, and it's not showing up in fdisk. Anyone got any advice?
[05:39] <bobertdos> zonedfull: yes, because the rest of them will get installed automatically along side it
[05:39] <cms-affla> lstnares: thanks it works!
[05:39] <Caimlas_> er, Lartza_
[05:40] <Khisanth> so this is just kdevelop being stupid :)
[05:40] <Commissar_Mo> Resolution issues in Kubuntu that I can't solve despite hours of trying - I'm wondering if, given the similarity, it's worth it to try Ubuntu and hope they go away - is this reasonable?
[05:40] <Khisanth> you'll probably want a kdevelop channel
[05:40] <Lartza_> Caimlas_: And check your includes
[05:40] <cms-affla> lstnares: hey btw is there a exchange server for ubuntu, like as to H.D. reg's
[05:40] <imnichol> ...could anyone give me a hint about how to connect to another server?
[05:40] <kennyyu> lstarnes: http://paste.ubuntu.com/276768/
[05:40] <Caimlas_> Khisanth, so it would appear. :-/ dbg is saying there's no Makefile, and in my rush I missed that initially. :-/ I'd have expected automagic makeing :P
[05:40] <lstarnes> cms-affla: I don't knw
[05:40] <lstarnes> *know
[05:41] <lstarnes> cms-affla: I think that there are various mail servers for ubuntu
[05:41] <Commissar_Mo> wow
[05:41] <Khisanth> and /usr/include/qt4 is probably NOT in your default include path unless you are using some sort of "create qt4 project" option in kdevelop
[05:41] <funnyman> Jordan_U, i'm dead, right?
[05:41] <imnichol> CONNECT irc.gimp.org
[05:41] <Commissar_Mo> is my question, like, offensive or something?
[05:42] <imnichol> .....crap, that didn't work
[05:42] <Jordan_U> funnyman: Probably, boot from the liveCD and see if you can still mount the partition
[05:42] <cms-affla> lstnares: I am hoping to compose a project for other than mail via the grouping of multi use source.. and hopefully either co-relay with iana or such if possible for dm reg and or the Inf tech Owners / reg of iana
[05:43] <Khisanth> Commissar_Mo: 6 people responding with "we don't know" is probably not useful going to be anymore useful :)
[05:43] <Commissar_Mo> I agree, but usually 1 person at least says, 'no one here knows' otherwise I make the easy assumption that Linux people are just annoyed to be asked a simple question and ignore me...
[05:44] <Commissar_Mo> but ok
[05:44] <gnychis> does anyone here use an X300 thinkpad?
[05:44] <Pulledteeth> Commissar_Mo, did you install the nvidia driver and everything?
[05:44] <bullgard4> I am going to import my Evolution addressbook to Thunderbird. Thunderbird's import wizard > Import Address Book has an line 'Record data to import=id". What does this 'id' (identifier) mean in Thunderbird's addressbook?
[05:44] <Curly_Q> Commissar please ask me the question?   :)
[05:44] <Commissar_Mo> I have onboard GPU, which is probably part of the issue, it's drivers are updated (2004!)
[05:44] <zonedfull> bobertdos: But when I f.example search in the synaptic after f.ex sun-java-plugin (for firefox) I get almost 50 packets of different things how can I now in the future what to innstall...shall I look after .bin file or what?
[05:44] <lstarnes> kennyyu: it looks like it's at least accepting some icmp messages
[05:45] <lstarnes> kennyyu: I forget the number assigned to echo
[05:45] <Khisanth> and you don't need to reinstall, you can just try it with the livecd
[05:45] <Commissar_Mo> I'm having resolution issues in Kubuntu (it resets upon login) and after 12 hours, I don't really care to fix it anymore... I'm just wondering if a switch to Ubuntu will likely give me the same thing
[05:45] <Commissar_Mo> seeing as the delta is mostly in the GUI part
[05:45] <Khisanth> actually you can just install gnome as well
[05:46] <Pulledteeth> Commissar_Mo, that sounds like an xorg.conf issue :o (Does ubuntu use xorg.conf anymore?)
[05:46] <Khisanth> given the particular problem switching between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is not likely to change anything
[05:46] <Commissar_Mo> ahh
[05:46] <Commissar_Mo> ok that's what I was wondering
[05:46] <bobertdos> zonedfull: the package is specifically named sun-java6-plugin. I recommend using sudo apt-get install sun-java6-plugin.
[05:46] <Khisanth> Pulledteeth: yes ... at least 9.04 still does
[05:46] <Jordan_U> dividebyzero: If you run "iwlist scan" do you see a "wlan0" ?
[05:47] <Jordan_U> Pulledteeth: Ubuntu doesn't need an xorg.conf any more but it still honors one if it's there
[05:47] <Khisanth> Commissar_Mo: it also looks like a solvable problem :)
[05:47] <Curly_Q> Commissar it almost but not sure that it might be a screen saver issue in which that would be the only logical time issue for any resolution problem.
[05:47] <sancas> http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9853/pantallazoth.jpg
[05:47] <Kingtiger01> ok... well i need to get back to work... Good Night/Day to you all.
[05:47] <Khisanth> either something is not writing a file it should be or something is writing a file it shouldn't be ...
[05:47] <Commissar_Mo> most of the online help seems to revolve around editing a resolution preferences file, but I've failed so far to get their solns to work
[05:47] <jamieleshaw> Hello, I have a WinFast DTV 2000 H, and require assistance configuring it. ;)
[05:48] <kennyyu> lstarnes: it's 8... http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/protocol/icmp/msg8.htm
[05:48] <zonedfull> bobertdos: What can happen if someone f.ex in synaptic takes the wrong one f.ex the sun-java6-plugn.bin file
[05:49] <zonedfull> bobertdos: And try to install that one..will it still be innstalled
[05:49] <Gracenotes> Commissar_Mo: didn't see above.. are you dealing with HP mininote 2133?
[05:49] <Commissar_Mo> no, it's Averatec, onboard GPU
[05:50] <Commissar_Mo> 2004 driver, latest :(
[05:50] <bobertdos> zonedfull It probably would, but that's why I like using the terminal, so it's easier to use specific package names.
[05:50] <Gracenotes> ah. I had problems with drivers and xorg.conf in my mininote until recently, when I installed Ubuntu 9.04 and it more or less just magically fixed everything
[05:50] <Jordan_U> funnyman: Have you tried mounting from the liveCD again yet?
[05:51] <Commissar_Mo> really... ok I've been debating such a move - I might try Ubuntu then - thank you
[05:51] <funnyman> Jordan_U: i can list the files in the partitions now ;)
[05:51] <funnyman> Jordan_U: i'm trying to reboot again...
[05:52] <Jordan_U> funnyman: Write down the error message just before the busybox shell if it fails again
[05:52] <Gracenotes> it is probably just that Ubuntu 9.04 and my drivers matched up right, for my specific laptop. not sure how Kubuntu differs from Ubuntu in the driver department...
[05:52] <Commissar_Mo> ok
[05:53] <Pulledteeth> Ubuntu does not detect USB storage devices after it's been running for a bit of time. It sees it in lsusb, but not block device is created/detected, and it's not showing up in fdisk. (If I restart, it all works again. dmesg says something about assigning an adress 7 to my thumb drive. But I only have 4 ports.) Anyone got any advice?
[05:53] <ubuntugeek> I have a cheapy logetek webcam how do I get it to work on ubuntu and skype?
[05:53] <zonedfull> bobertdos: Ok last question is usually all packages that shall be installed in Ubuntu ended with "plugin"?
[05:54] <funnyman> Jordan_U: no error messages, the loading Ubuntu image (running left-right) appeared and then it jumped right away to the BusyBox
[05:54] <Curly_Q> Commissar have you done a:      top     command to see what functions are running when this change happens?
[05:54] <Jordan_U> Pulledteeth: Can you check if udev is still running when you have this problem ?( sudo invoke-rc.d udev status )
[05:54] <Randy_> so i have a wg511t wireless card and i cant connect to any networks, no networks even show up. What can I do about this?
[05:55] <Pulledteeth> Jordan_U, invoke-rc.d: initscript udev, action "status" failed.
[05:55] <Randy_> I get SIOCSIFADDR: No such device if i do dhclient ath0
[05:55] <Commissar_Mo> I don't know what that is...
[05:55] <bobertdos> zonedfull: Eh, not really. In terms of the community and multiverse packages, there aren't many naming conventions. I sometimes think it would be easier if there were naming conventions, but there are not.
[05:55] <gOLDfeesh> is there a reason as to why everything goes to 2.6.28.10 if I'm running 2.6.28-15-generic? when I install modules it goes to 2.6.28.10
[05:55] <ubuntugeek> I have a cheapy logetek webcam how do I get it to work on ubuntu and skype?
[05:55] <Curly_Q> Look up the command prompt                 < top > and watch when the command of the program changes.
[05:56] <Jordan_U> funnyman: Ok, can you pastebin the output from "blkid" and the contents of your menu.lst?
[05:56] <Commissar_Mo> ok thanks
[05:56] <zonedfull> bobertdos:  Ok Thanks a lot...I learned a bit today of this...
[05:56] <Randy_> anyone know what i can do?
[05:56] <Jordan_U> Pulledteeth: Try "pgrep udev" if it returns a number then udev is running
[05:56] <zonedfull> bobertdos: Im grateful
[05:56] <zonedfull> BYE ALL
[05:56] <Pulledteeth> yep, s'running.
[05:56] <ubuntugeek> I have a cheapy logetek webcam how do I get it to work on ubuntu and skype?
[05:56] <Gracenotes> hm, does Ubuntu have a way to modify the screen-unlocking password? or is it invariably the user's password?
[05:56] <Pulledteeth> Jordan_U, yep s'running
[05:56] <zonedfull> And see ya....and by the way here you get exellent supprt
[05:57] <zonedfull> bye
[05:57] <Randy_> ?
[05:57] <Gracenotes> I tend to dislike typing passwords in public as much as possible :)
[05:57] <bobertdos> zonedfull: bye\
[05:57] <Jordan_U> Pulledteeth: And are usb drives currently being mounted ?
[05:57] <Gracenotes> I couldn't find anything in gconf about it
[05:57] <shachaf> Gracenotes: When you say screen-unlocking, do you mean GNU screen or the GUI thing?
[05:57] <Pulledteeth> Jordan_U, not currently, no.
[05:57] <shachaf> Gracenotes: Ah.
[05:57] <Curly_Q> Gracenotes,
[05:57] <Gracenotes> yes, I have my laptop configured so that when I close the lid, it does into screen-lock mode
[05:57] <Curly_Q> Root has absolute access to passwords.
[05:57] <Gracenotes> goes
[05:58] <kj4> is there a python-wannbe channel?
[05:58] <Curly_Q> If you are in a SHELL ACCOUNT then the user is the one who can change the password, but the Administrator has and can change the password.
[05:59] <lstarnes> Curly_Q: in most systems, passwords are encrypted and only the encrypted form is stored
[05:59] <lstarnes> Curly_Q: it's often a one-way hash
[05:59] <shachaf> Curly_Q: Gracenotes is asking about the password used to unlock the screen can be different from the one used to log in.
[05:59] <Gracenotes> I am fine with my account's password, which I set. I am fine with the root password, which I also set. It would be nice if there were a way to set a screen unlock password separate from either of those, whereas the default behavior doesn't seem to have this
[06:00] <Curly_Q> True, but, but that can be thwarted with some software with Linux and decrypt those 128 bit passwords.
[06:00] <Jordan_U> Pulledteeth: Try "sudo invoke-rc.d udev refresh-devices" and if that doesn't work "sudo invoke-rc.d udev restart" ( might make you lose network connection )
[06:01] <shachaf> Gracenotes: At worst you could use another screen-locking program.
[06:02] <Curly_Q> Shachaf, it all depends upon the software being used. If the password for a user account is different from the screensaver password, it look as if this person wants a hack to get into the system and I personally say not a chance.
[06:02] <Gracenotes> hm. true. it would need to be hooked into gnome somehow
[06:02] <Jyxt> need some help...fresh install of xubuntu 9.04, did sudo apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[06:02] <Pulledteeth> Jordan_U, nope. Did screw up my battery widget though :o
[06:02] <Jyxt> so i can watch the trailers at apple.com...click a trailer and firefox crashes
[06:02] <shachaf> Gracenotes: ...He's asking if *he* can change the password used for unlocking the screensaver.
[06:02] <Jyxt> is mozilla-mplayer not the right way to view quicktime content?
[06:02] <shachaf> s/Gracenotes/Curly_Q/
[06:03] <funnyman> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.org/22948 i can't find menu.lst
[06:03] <shachaf> Gracenotes: Well, I've used xlock for a simpler locking program, in the past.
[06:03] <Curly_Q> There is no way to unlock a password if you don't have the original password.
[06:03] <Gracenotes> particularly, the lid-close trigger
[06:03] <shachaf> Curly_Q: That's not what he's asking.
[06:04] <shachaf> Curly_Q: He *knows* his user password. For security (or whatever) reasons, he wants to use a different password to unlock the screensaver.
[06:04] <Pulledteeth> Jordan_U, yeah; no dice.
[06:04] <Gracenotes> I should be clear, every in this computer is under my data jurisdiction (lol haruhi). no one else uses it. I'd like to diversify the passwords I use, i.e. use less sensitive ones in common public situations, like unlocking screens
[06:04] <Gracenotes> everything
[06:04] <shachaf> Gracenotes: Do you never log in in public?
[06:05] <Gracenotes> I do, with less frequency than the other
[06:05] <shachaf> Gracenotes: I'd think that it would make sense for both to be the same. After all, they can both be used if you leave your computer unattended.
[06:05] <Curly_Q> Then he needs to go into ROOT access and over-ride the original password for the screen saver or just delete the program and re-install it and change the password.
[06:05] <Jordan_U> funnyman: It's on /dev/sda7
[06:05] <Gracenotes> it would just be nice if it were easily possible, I would certainly do it.
[06:06] <shachaf> Curly_Q: OK, he's asking if that's possible.
[06:06] <shachaf> Since it doesn't seem to be easily possible, at least.
[06:06] <Gracenotes> I remember from Window 98 days, there was a separate screensaver password. I'm not sure if that feature is still around in windows... I think they just go straight to the login screen
[06:06] <Curly_Q> Yes!!!   it is possible if he has root access.
[06:06] <shachaf> Curly_Q: OK, explain, then. :-)
[06:07] <Myrtti> please don't enable root access just for having a different screensaver password
[06:07] <Myrtti> it's even worse security
[06:07] <Curly_Q> I don't need to explain. If one has root access, then, that is explanation enough.
[06:07] <Sakara> Hi just installed a ubuntu 9.04 desktop i386 when I boot I get "GRUB " printed on my screen over and over again any ideas. tried reinstalling grub twice now no change?
[06:08] <shachaf> Myrtti: That's not what he's asking!
[06:08] <shachaf> Sigh...
[06:08] <shachaf> Myrtti: He has one password for root, another password for his user, and he wants a *third* password for unlocking the screensaver.
[06:08] <Gracenotes> from a technical point of view, it would work, but would go against the original motivation of doing it in the first place ;)
[06:08] <Myrtti> right, so good luck with that root password. *walks away*
[06:09] <shachaf> Myrtti: Huh?
[06:09] <Myrtti> !noroot
[06:09] <Myrtti> !rootsudo
[06:09] <funnyman> Jordan_U: http://pastebin.org/22954
[06:09] <shachaf> Myrtti: OK, don't support it.
[06:09] <Curly_Q> You cannot change a password in any OS or any network or any system or any anything without knowing what the processes that were initialized in the first place.
[06:09] <Jordan_U> Gracenotes: You might be able to do it by running gnome-screensaver as a different user
[06:09] <funnyman> Jordan_U: that's my menu.lst
[06:09] <shachaf> Myrtti: It has nothing to do with the problem at hand.
[06:09] <xorwhy> with regard to the alternative screen saver password, i imagine the benefit is to keep an onlooker from acquiring the password visually
[06:09] <Gracenotes> thank you for those.. uh.. completely irrelevant factoids
[06:10] <shachaf> xorwhy: Yes!
[06:10] <xorwhy> i think its a good idea, my solution to the onlooker problem is to have a separate xmodmap file for the login page, only I know what the corresponding characters are
[06:10] <shachaf> Gracenotes: I apologize if I'm acting a bit too much as a spokesperson.
[06:10] <funnyman> Jordan_U: Any sunshine, pls don't tell me no
[06:10] <Gracenotes> Jordan_U: hm, would that require typing in the other user's password first, in order to run gnome-screensaver?
[06:11] <shachaf> xorwhy: What, you actually use a different keyboard layout?
[06:11] <Curly_Q> In any case, if a person changes the password on anything without reading the manual on the HOWTO then no one can help them.
[06:11] <xorwhy> shacha, for gdm yes, and it is not a known map, its a pretty useful map for anything else im sure
[06:11] <xorwhy> useless
[06:11] <Jordan_U> Gracenotes: Yes, but only once ( though I have never tried this myself and don't know if running gnome-screensaver as a different user would even work )
[06:12] <xorwhy> I would like to have a different password for gdm login, selected randomly, with an indicator on the gdm wallpaper of which password it is
[06:13] <Jordan_U> funnyman: Try booting into "recovery mode" and look for an error about mounting root file system before the busybox shell comes up
[06:13] <funnyman> okie
[06:13] <Curly_Q> In fact, I am willing to bet that this folk did not write down on paper the password and just plain forgot it.
[06:14] <ryguy> when i do "aptitude install vlc" I get this: The following packages will be REMOVED:
[06:14] <ryguy>   binfmt-support{u} bsd-mailx{u} dctrl-tools{u} debhelper{u} debootstrap{u}
[06:14] <ryguy>   devscripts{u} dh-make{u} diffstat{u} dput{u} fakeroot{u} gettext{u}
[06:14] <ryguy>   html2text{u} intltool-debian{u} libapr1{u} libaprutil1{u}
[06:14] <ryguy>   libauthen-sasl-perl{u} libdevel-symdump-perl{u} libio-pty-perl{u}
[06:14] <FloodBot1> ryguy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:14] <ryguy>   libio-stringy-perl{u} libipc-run-perl{u} libmail-sendmail-perl{u}
[06:14] <Gracenotes> xorwhy: heh, what would be neat
[06:14] <Gracenotes> or some absurdly complicated cipher
[06:15] <ryguy> omg that was supposed to be on one line sorry guys
[06:15] <ryguy> but what I was gettin at is are any of those important
[06:15] <shachaf> ryguy: For whom?
[06:15] <Gracenotes> ryguy: you are getting all your software from the main ubuntu server, right?
[06:15] <shachaf> ryguy: I wouldn't want to uninstall those, at least. :-)
[06:15] <Curly_Q> What to do in this case is to find the file that has the password and delete it from root. Then open up the software and enter a new password.
[06:16] <ryguy> gracenotes: yeah, shacaf: all I want to do is install vlc
[06:16] <Gracenotes> I've tried using alternate software sources before. it turned into a huge effing mess :(
[06:16] <shachaf> ryguy: I have both fakeroot and vlc installed at the same time, though, so something is wrong.
[06:16] <Rosey> how do i update firefox
[06:16] <Sakara> fresh install 9.04 desktop i386, when it boots gets to where the grub menu should appear but the screen is filled with "GRUB " over and and over again? any ideas on a fix
[06:16] <Curly_Q> It is best done from ROOT.
[06:16] <ryguy> shachaf, should I just try to install it from source? or what?
[06:17] <Gracenotes> Rosey: there are different packages for firefox-3.0 and firefox-3.5
[06:17] <shachaf> Sakara: Google says http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml
[06:17] <shachaf> ryguy: Um, which package exactly does it conflict with
[06:17] <shachaf> ?
[06:17] <edulacomadreja> someone there with some experince on drbd?
[06:17] <ryguy> shachaf: I'm not sure, all I know is that it has that huge list of what will be removed
[06:18] <musikgoat> !shiretoko | rosey
[06:18] <timClicks> can anyone recommend a good backup guide?
[06:18] <ryguy> shachaf: for the most partim just running a basic xubuntu setup
[06:18] <Jyxt> omg can anyone help me...all i wanted to do was watch some trailers at apple.com
[06:18] <Jyxt> and its turned into a 2 hour trek
[06:18] <DasEi> Jyxt: url ?
[06:18] <igfud> does sendmail cache outgoing messages if the internet connection isn't available?
[06:19] <Curly_Q> Edulacomadreja check this out:      http://www.drbd.org/
[06:19] <firecrotch> Jyxt: The journey is the most important part of the Linux experience :)
[06:19] <shachaf> ryguy: What does vlc conflict with? It looks like it's just vlc-nox to me.
[06:19] <timClicks> I have a single hdd in my laptop, I would like to be able to simply create an image of the disk and archive it on a (much larger) external hdd
[06:19] <Sakara> thanks shachaf
[06:19] <Jyxt> running xubuntu 9.04 firefox 3.0...ive tried totem plugins, gstreamer, mplayer...none of them work, closest ive gotten is the mplayer plugin
[06:19] <Sakara> will look into the bios issue
[06:19] <Jyxt> least its *trying* to load now
[06:19] <DasEi> timClicks: easy by dd
[06:19] <Jyxt> DasEi: apple.com/trailers/
[06:19] <Jyxt> none of them work
[06:19] <timClicks> and also have cron backup my /home/ partition periodically
[06:19] <jimbeam12> hey
[06:19] <jimbeam12> need some advise here
[06:19] <voidmage> butts
[06:19] <timClicks> DasEi: danke, will have a look
[06:19] <voidmage> whoops
[06:19] <voidmage> bad script
[06:20] <Jyxt> now im at the point where firefox at least knows it has the right plugin...and i get a stuttered stop/play for about 30 seconds then it just stops
[06:20] <jimbeam12> cannot access my grub/menu.lst file
[06:20] <xorwhy> is there a way to pipe grep to lspci to have lspci show only pattern matching devices?
[06:20] <Jyxt> no video, no sound, nothing
[06:20] <Jyxt> this was *SO* much easier to figure out in gentoo
[06:20] <musikgoat> xorwhy: lspci | grep foo
[06:20] <xorwhy> thank you musikgoat
[06:20] <funnyman> Jordan_U: it prints a whole lot of lines, which i can't go to the first because it was truncated. Anywya, a few meaning full messages i can see are: "sda:<4> Driver 'sr' needs updaing - please use bus_type methods" . 2. "ext3-fs mounted file sytem with ordered datamode." and ... the last line is "target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init"
[06:20] <ryguy> shachaf: i did apt-get install and it's telling me this: The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: debootstrap fakeroot python-pyinotify diffstat libmono0 debhelper intltool-debian postfix patchutils libapr1 po-debconf subversion libpod-coverage-perl libmail-sendmail-perl libsvn1 libdevel-symdump-perl gettext libio-stringy-perl devscripts libipc-run-perl dctrl-tools libauthen-sasl-perl dput libparse-deb
[06:20] <ryguy> control-perl libio-pty-perl libpq5 bsd-mailx html2text pbuilder binfmt-support dh-make lintian libaprutil1 libtest-pod-perl libterm-size-perl libsys-hostname-long-perl
[06:21] <DasEi> timClicks: sudo like dd if=/dev/sXX(yourlappi)  of=/dev/sXX(your external),  can find the  devs by  sudo fdisk -l
[06:21] <shachaf> ryguy: Yes, you said that. It doesn't say very much...
[06:21] <shachaf> ryguy: Does `apt-cache show vlc` say it conflicts with something?
[06:21] <Jordan_U> funnyman: Ok, that means that the reason it won't boot is because of files lost
[06:21] <ryguy> It doesnt say anything thing about conflicts, it just says Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[06:21] <musikgoat> ryguy: that just means you can uninstall them with apt-get autoclean
[06:21] <Jordan_U> funnyman: Back up your own important data and reinstall :(
[06:21] <jimbeam12> yah done fdisk -l
[06:22] <shachaf> Oh! I misread.
[06:22] <funnyman> Jordan_U: :(
[06:22] <musikgoat> ryguy: did you want those packages?
[06:22] <Jordan_U> funnyman: Also check that the disk is not bad, don't want to re-install just for it to happen again
[06:22] <timClicks> DasEi: looks good
[06:22] <ryguy> shachaf: Conflicts: vlc-nox (<< 0.9.2-1)
[06:22] <timClicks> DasEi: thanks
[06:22] <ryguy> musikgoat: I dunno what those packages are lol
[06:22] <shachaf> ryguy: It means exactly what it says.
[06:23] <jimbeam12> help cant access my grub menu.lst
[06:23] <ryguy> so I should uninstall vlc-nox?
[06:23] <shachaf> ryguy: Those "packages were automatically installed and are no longer required".
[06:23] <shachaf> ryguy: No, it's not installed.
[06:23] <musikgoat> ryguy: those are mostly helper packages that make software work with other software
[06:23] <funnyman> Jordan_U: okay, thanks a lot for your patient help. I think i should go now
[06:23] <shachaf> ryguy: You'll get that message no matter what you install.
[06:23] <Jordan_U> funnyman: np
[06:23] <ryguy> this is the only thing that has given me that message though
[06:23] <DasEi> timClicks: best is to define an own partition on the big hd, to not loose the remaining space , same size or little bigger then the internal
[06:23] <Rosey> thanks how about itunes. i tried to use win but it fails...
[06:24] <Tr3N_> a
[06:24] <jimbeam12> i ge to here: sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda5 /mnt
[06:24] <Jordan_U> Jyxt: What plugin did you use in Gentoo?
[06:24] <jimbeam12> then i type in :gksudo gedit /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:24] <jimbeam12> and i get an empty file...
[06:25] <musikgoat> jimbeam12: are you running karmic?
[06:25] <shachaf> jimbeam12: Maybe that file is empty, then?
[06:25] <Jyxt> Jordan_U: gecko...replacement for mplayer
[06:25] <jimbeam12> its saying drive already mounted
[06:25] <jimbeam12> no juanty
[06:25] <Jyxt> quicktime plays fine on the gentoo laptop, but the fresh ubuntu desktop has been giving me hell
[06:25] <jimbeam12> jauntuy
[06:25] <BlackFate> jimbeam12, you try to mount an already mounted partition
[06:26] <Jordan_U> Jyxt: Have you tried that in Ubuntu?
[06:26] <Jyxt> first thing i did was try the gecko plugin
[06:26] <musikgoat> Jyxt: sorry if you've mentioned it, but have you checked into ubuntu-restricted-extras package?
[06:26] <jimbeam12> so how do i do it then    blackfate
[06:26] <BlackFate> jimbeam12, mount | grep /dev/sda5
[06:26] <pete_> what would a command be to remove any file from a directory that does not end in .mp3, including the folders those files were in?
[06:26] <BlackFate> jimbeam12, do this and give the output
[06:26] <xorwhy> if the command lspci -k is entered, and a properly detected device is listed without a driver, does that mean the device has no driver?
[06:27] <Jyxt> musikgoat: yes
[06:27] <DasEi> Jyxt:could that be shockwave ?
[06:27] <DasEi> !shockwave
[06:27] <jimbeam12> ok done  blackfate
[06:27] <mint> how do I share internet? Getting internet from wifi and will share on wired LAN?
[06:27] <BlackFate> jimbeam12, give me the output
[06:27] <Jyxt> DasEi: shockwave at an apple site? no its definatly quicktime
[06:27] <musikgoat> DasEi: i would think its quicktime
[06:28] <DasEi> Jyxt: fast workaround : use a plugin and dowload it to hd , then watch
[06:28] <Jyxt> Jordan_U: mplayer plugins crash firefox, gecko plugins stutter on load, then stop after 30 seconds...no vide/audio etc and the totem plugins dont even work
[06:28] <Jordan_U> mint: In System > Preferences > Networking Add a new profile for the wired connection called "Share Internet" ( or whatever you want ) and in the ipv4 settings choose "Shared"
[06:28] <jimbeam12> /dev/sda5 on /mnt type ext3 (rw
[06:28] <BlackFate> Jyxt, for the trailers?
[06:28] <jimbeam12> /dev/sda5 on /mnt type ext3 (rw)
[06:28] <Jyxt> BlackFate: yes
[06:28] <jimbeam12> here blackfate
[06:29] <BlackFate> Jyxt, listen up
[06:29] <ubu_nub> mint: consider a proxy like squid for web or figure out netcat
[06:29] <BlackFate> Jyxt, apple made some changes and only with quicktime they will play...
[06:29] <BlackFate> Jyxt, in order to play em with gecko
[06:29] <DasEi> Jyxt, musikgoat my ff plays other quicktime fine, but at there  I just get an empty black window
[06:29] <BlackFate> Jyxt, install useragent changer plugin for firefox
[06:29] <BlackFate> Jyxt, and change yout useragent to Quicktime... google it
[06:30] <Jyxt> blackfate thanks, will try it
[06:30] <BlackFate> jimbeam12, cd /mnt/boot
[06:30] <BlackFate> jimbeam12, is it empty?
[06:30] <ferrus> hello
[06:30] <Rosey> What's a good FTP client
[06:31] <jimbeam12> no its not blackfate
[06:31] <kj4> Rosey: ftp
[06:31] <ferrus> hello
[06:31] <Rosey> oh snap theres already on here
[06:31] <Rosey> lol
[06:31] <Rosey> thanks
[06:31] <kj4> Rosey: you're welcome!
[06:31] <jimbeam12> thxs blackfate
[06:32] <musikgoat> Rosey: if you want to ftp via nautilus, go to file -> connect to server
[06:32] <Jordan_U> Jyxt: Apple's website is doing something really strange, when I wget http://movies.apple.com/movies/universal/couplesretreat/couplesretreat-clip_h320.mov it's an html file named index.html
[06:33] <musikgoat> Jordan_U: its a new quicktime transport stream, as far as i understand
[06:33] <Pulledteeth> I think my hot-swapp is messed up. I can't just plug in a USB thumb drive and have it detected. (It's detected by lsusb, but not fdisk.)
[06:33] <BlackFate> Jordan_U, you got to change your useragent
[06:34] <Rosey> Sorry I'm completely new to Linux lol
[06:34] <BlackFate> Jordan_U, try this wget -U QuickTime/7.6.2 http://movies.apple.com/movies/universal/couplesretreat/couplesretreat-clip_h320.mov
[06:34] <Jordan_U> BlackFate: To what, apparently it needs to be changed in the browser plugin as well
[06:34] <BlackFate> Jordan_U, try it
[06:34] <ubu_nub> can anyone help with a nasty segfault in apt tools under intrepid?
[06:35] <ubu_nub> ... error 5 in libapt-pkg-libc6.8-6.so.4.6.0
[06:35] <Jordan_U> BlackFate: That does it
[06:35] <ubu_nub> either apt-get or aptitude produces the same results.
[06:36] <mint> anyone?
[06:36] <Xgates> say I nee to install the latest Nvidia x64 185 driver when I run the installer it says:  The compiler used to compile the kernel (gcc-4.2) does not exactly match the current compiler (gcc-4.2), I ran the installer before and the driver worked fine, I wonder if this will break anything, but I don't see gcc-4.2 in synaptic for me to install
[06:36] <Jordan_U> Jyxt: Not exactly convienient but you can play trailers by downloading them with wget and a quicktime user agent then play them in mplayer / vlc / whatever
[06:36] <Xgates> I nee/need....
[06:37] <Xgates> errr my bad it says ---> does not exactly match the current compiler (gcc-4.3)....
[06:37] <jimbeam12> hey blackfate
[06:38] <jimbeam12> cheers for that
[06:38] <gOLDfeesh> is there a reason as to why my module install always uses 2.6.28.10 as the dir instead of 2.6.28.15-generic?
[06:38] <BlackFate> jimbeam12, np
[06:38] <ubu_nub> xgates: did you export the correct gcc?
[06:38] <Curly_Q> Mint use either a HUB, or ROUTER.
[06:38] <Xgates> ubu_nub: sorry what ya mean export?
[06:39] <jimbeam12> all started blackfate when i was craping around with adding a splash image on ubuntu bootloader
[06:39] <ubu_nub> xgates: do you have gcc 4.3 installed?
[06:39] <BlackFate> jimbeam12, i c... i used to have same prob
[06:39] <Xgates> ubu_nub: I have whatever Ubuntu installs by default
[06:39] <Xgates> I believe that's 4.3
[06:39] <ubu_nub> export CC=gcc-4.3
[06:39] <jimbeam12> is theire a solution to that blackfate..
[06:40] <BlackFate> well
[06:40] <mint> Curly_Q: i know i can do that but i'm in another room and this is my option since i have no cabling and i can't connect the wifi router to another wifi router
[06:40] <Xgates> ubu_nub: I made a typo before it says --->  The compiler used to compile the kernel (gcc-4.2) does not exactly match the current compiler (gcc-4.3)....
[06:40] <Curly_Q> Mint what exactly do you want to accomplish?
[06:40] <jimbeam12> i mean startup manager screws everything when i try that
[06:40] <BlackFate> try rebuilding menu.lst
[06:40] <jimbeam12> rebuilding ?? how
[06:40] <ubu_nub> xgates there is probably a better way but try: dpkg -S gcc
[06:40] <Curly_Q> Mint there are plenty of wireless routers.
[06:40] <jimbeam12> u mean from scratch ..
[06:41] <Xgates> ubu_nub: so still run export?
[06:41] <Xgates> k
[06:41] <ubu_nub> if you have 4.3 already use that export command. if not install it.
[06:41] <Jyxt> BlackFate: thanks, that helped...most specifically this link http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?p=77131
[06:41] <jimbeam12> i mean i really like this operating system
[06:41] <Jyxt> last post gives the details about the useragent to use
[06:41] <Curly_Q> Mint you can connect any router to any other router. It is all about setting the internal permissions settings.
[06:42] <mint> Curly_Q: wirelessly?
[06:42] <powertool08> Could somebody please point me towards a good, recent guide to samba security for a lan-facing only file/print server?
[06:42] <Curly_Q> Of course.
[06:42] <BlackFate> Jyxt, yeah.. this useragent firefox plugin does the trick
[06:42] <Curly_Q> Mint what brand of router are you using?
[06:43] <jimbeam12> anyone know how to use splash on startup without any problems..
[06:43] <mint> Curly_Q: netgear for the guest router... linksys for the host router
[06:43] <gOLDfeesh> is there a reason as to why my module install always uses 2.6.28.10 as the dir instead of 2.6.28.15-generic?
[06:44] <Xgates> ubu_nub: dpkg -S gcc shows all the beginning lines as gcc-4.3
[06:44] <Curly_Q> Mint, the term ROUTER is exactly what it says:  "ROUTING" which means that it just takes packets of data and routs it from a SOURCE to a DESTINATION.
[06:45] <Xgates> ubu_nub: why are we concentrating on gcc-4.3, it says the kernel was compiled with 4.2, so I thought I need to have 4.2 installed for the Nvidia drivers?
[06:45] <Rosey> How do I install iTunes, if not what is the alternative?
[06:45] <shachaf> Rosey: There's that thing, I don't remember what it's called. Look in the menu.
[06:45] <stwange> I killed gnome-panel to refresh it, and I've lost all the icons on my desktop - how do I get them back? (I've restarted gnome-panel)
[06:45] <shachaf> Rosey: (Huh, that may have appeared sarcastic? That was not the intent. I don't run GNOME, so I don't remember.)
[06:45] <ubu_nub> xgates: doh. is there a gcc-4.2 available?
[06:45] <Rosey> No you're fine, lol
[06:46] <Jordan_U> Rosey: There is no way to access the itunes music store in linux but with a virtual machine running windows, there are many good media players though
[06:46] <powertool08> Rosey: I think shachaf is referring to synaptic package manager
[06:46] <mint> Curly_Q: yes, I meant Linksys will supply the internetl, netgear will be the one to connect to it wirelessly so it can reroute the internet signal
[06:46] <shachaf> powertool08: No, the music player.
[06:46] <Xgates> I didn't see any in synaptic but if I want to install it, would I run ---> apt-get gcc-4.2 install? maybe from the cli will work?
[06:46] <mint> so how do i get started?]
[06:47] <ablmf1> I installed vsftpd on ubuntu.  When I login the ftp from a remote folder,  every file and dir's name looks like "moth year real_file name"
[06:47] <ablmf1> What wrong with that?
[06:47] <powertool08> shachaf: Oh, sorry :)
[06:47] <ubu_nub> Xgates: apt-cache search gcc-4.2
[06:47] <shachaf> Rosey: What are you trying to do? Play music, buy music, use an iPod?
[06:47] <Eph> hi =) can anyone tell me how I get rid of a previous mdadm configuration so that I get a fresh auto-detect of my raid? I have put in a boot disk from when I had 2 disks in the array, now I have 3 so they dont match. On a fresh install / rescue disc boot I can mount the raid just fine but on this old boot disk I it complains
[06:47] <Xgates> k
[06:47]  * shachaf suspects he was thinking of Rhythmbox.
[06:47] <Rosey> Mostly just upload to my iPod Touch
[06:47] <Rosey> not to play music
[06:48] <Curly_Q> Mint, ONLY ONE router can be the ACCESS POINT if you want to set up what I think you want. That may be your problem. You cannot have both routers as the access point.
[06:48] <Jordan_U> !ipod | Rosey
[06:49] <Rosey> Thank you
[06:49] <Jordan_U> Rosey: np
[06:49] <Curly_Q> If you do have both routers as the access point then you need to assign them both different IP addresses.
[06:49] <mint> Curly_Q: so that's it, thought your suggesting i can do that wirelessly. Anyway that's why i'm asking help to share internet
[06:50] <stwange> is there any way to alias hosts on your machine for ssh? Some kind of overriding DNS? eg. so that ssh myserver would replace myserver with the IP?
[06:50] <mint> Curly_Q: yes i'm aware of that IP thing
[06:50] <slurple> using JJ, when i unplug my laptop, the power profile does not switch to POWERSAVE. WHY NOT?
[06:50] <Curly_Q> Sure, anything you can do with cable and RJ45 cabling and that stuff you can do with wireless.
[06:51] <SeJi2> ¾È³çÇÏ¼¼¿ä ^^
[06:52] <mint> hhmmm... ok let me try if i can do that
[06:52] <Rosey> what is the equivalent to task manager on this
[06:52] <Jordan_U> Rosey: System > Administration > System Monitor
[06:54] <Rosey> thank you
[06:54] <jimbeam12> Searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ??
[06:54] <Curly_Q> Speaking of TASK MANAGER, try looking up a GOOGLE on:           SECURITY TASK MANAGER   <--------------<    Cool program for Windows.
[06:54] <gOLDfeesh> is there a reason as to why my module install always uses 2.6.28.10 as the dir instead of 2.6.28.15-generic?
[06:54] <jimbeam12> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-15-generic
[06:54] <jimbeam12> Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic
[06:54] <jimbeam12> Found kernel: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[06:55] <stwange> on Vista with OpenVPN connected to my network, I can connect to computers without the FQDN, eg. "blah" instead of "blah.host.com" works. On Ubuntu, the host cannot be resolved using the same VPN configuration - can anyone tell me why?
[06:56] <ewp> a splash image is not really important. it just makes grub look pretty. i use the dark windows/penguin logo one from gnome-look.org
[06:56] <Curly_Q> Stwange check the permissions.
[06:56] <Curly_Q> And firewall settings or port settings.
[06:57] <coolcourt> hello, how do i get my lamp setup to load my css and js files?
[06:58] <stwange> Curly_Q, the VPN is being run as sudo, and it connects fine (eg. blah.host.com works but wouldn't without the VPN)
[06:58] <Curly_Q> CoolCourt, try looking up LYNDA on Google for Cascading Style Sheets.
[06:58] <ewp> coolcourt, css and js are client-side
[06:58] <coolcourt> well i understand how to use them, but when i go to localhost/site
[06:59] <coolcourt> they dont load, i was thinking theres a terminal command or something to a conf file or something
[06:59] <Curly_Q> Check your PORT SETTINGS Stwange.
[07:00] <ewp> coolcourt, you must not be setting the correct URL in your HTML
[07:00] <Xgates> ubu_nub: export didn't help but I figured out to run the installer like this --->  export CC=gcc-4.3 ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-177.82-pkg1.run
[07:00] <coolcourt> well i installed cakephp on my ubuntu install and when i go to the installation its just white and black the css isnt loading
[07:01] <coolcourt> i thought it was something common and took a few edits to fix
[07:01] <raynob> Hello there, I need assistance with Ubuntu set up as a gateway and also serving as pptp server.  If I flush all my iptables, I can connect successfully to the LAN, but with my iptables enabled, I can connect to pptp  sucessfully but no access to LAN.  Any ideas or pointers anyone?
[07:02] <ewp> coolcourt, ah i havent used cakephp in a while. i believe you need to place the js files in /cake/app/www/js (same structure for css) and just link them in your views by localhost/js (localhost/css)
[07:02] <ewp> coolcourt, join #cakephp
[07:03] <coolcourt> yea i went into their channel rigt now thanks
[07:03] <stwange> Curly_Q, can you be more details please? (or, more walkthroughy :)
[07:03] <ewp> they should help you better with that because cakephp has .htaccess files which mess with URL structure
[07:03] <Curly_Q> RayNob check this out:     http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/PPTP_Server_Configuration
[07:03] <ubu_nub> Xgates: nice. did it give any errors about symbolic links?
[07:04] <ryguy> My computer's tellin me that im receiving data at about 80 kb/s without any thing open.. any ideas?
[07:04] <frost_> why ubuntu not debian on a laptop?
[07:04] <ubu_nub> ryguy: maybe isntall iftop and see whats going on? ..
[07:05] <Xgates> no errors
[07:06] <Curly_Q> Stwange, the VPN or Virtual Private Network is working as you say. Read more on the subject and you will find that there is a permissions problem or a PORT problem.
[07:06] <ryguy> ubu_nub: bash: isntall: command not found
[07:06] <tehC0unt> for some reason ubuntu cannot partition my disk
[07:06] <raynob> Curly - do mind if I pvt you?
[07:06] <ewp> ooo iftop, i forgot about that tool :p
[07:07] <Curly_Q> Please don't I have too many people that want me to tell them things.
[07:07] <jimbeam12> anyone have a clue?
[07:07] <ubu_nub> ryguy: aptitude install iftop ?
[07:07] <ryguy> either way, how do i figure out whats downloading all this data... its runnin up my cpu usage
[07:07] <ewp> lol Curly_Q
[07:07] <jimbeam12> splash image do not update
[07:07] <jimbeam12> how do I link it
[07:08] <Curly_Q> Greets to EWP.
[07:08] <ewp> jimbeam12, what's the problem?
[07:08] <jimbeam12> hello ewp
[07:08] <ewp> jimbeam12, trying to get your splashimage.xpm.gz to load in grub?
[07:08] <jimbeam12> yes that right and it wont do it
[07:08] <jimbeam12> i get this as follows
[07:08] <ewp> aite, hold up let me look at my settings here :p
[07:08] <jimbeam12> how do I link it
[07:09] <ryguy> ubu_nub: k i got iftop but I still get bash: 'isntall: command not found'
[07:09] <jimbeam12> searching for splash image ... none found, skipping ...
[07:09] <ewp> jimbeam12, actually you could use startupmanager to load it
[07:09] <jimbeam12> how?
[07:09] <ubu_nub> ryguy: sudo iftop
[07:09] <stwange> can you link me to something Curly_Q? I don't see why a port problem would cause problems if the vpn is connecting and the FQDNs are being resolved - surely it's an issue with my local DNS lookup not updating or something
[07:09] <raynob> Curly - I'm pretty sure that the problem is related to my iptables.  There's something that I'm not allowing.  Do you have any pointers on how to get blockings logged perhaps.  Maybe then I should I should be able to figure out what I'm missing.
[07:09] <ewp> jimbeam12, the file of your splashimage must be in /boot/grub, or atleast on your /boot partition
[07:10] <ryguy> ubu_nub: alright, it seems to be coming from fa.46.1343.static.theplan
[07:10] <ryguy> ubu_nub: I have no idea what that is
[07:10] <jimbeam12> yes ive dont that ewp
[07:10] <jimbeam12> there are all in in there
[07:10] <jimbeam12> they just dont update
[07:10] <jones-> Hello.
[07:10] <ewp> jimbeam12, actually it must be in /boot/grub/splashimages
[07:11] <jones-> I'm using the Karmic alpha (dist-upgraded from Jaunty) and I have sound problems. i can hear the gdm sound at start up, but after that, nothing. Can anyone please help?
[07:11] <jimbeam12> yep exactly
[07:11] <jimbeam12> how do i get them to load up..
[07:11] <ubu_nub> ryguy: there is a port settings option in iftop. press h.
[07:11] <ewp> jimbeam12, well my menu.lst has this line
[07:11] <ewp> jimbeam12, splashimage=/grub/splashimages/grub-splash-dark.xpm.gz
[07:11] <ewp> jimbeam12, no /boot in there, so take off /boot if you have it, just start from /grub
[07:12] <jimbeam12> ok let me check
[07:12] <ewp> mine works perfect too
[07:12] <didymous> hello you wonderful helpful people, i notice an option for vpn in the network appelet but its not enabled how do i enable vpn?
[07:12] <Curly_Q> RayNob try checking the IP Tables manual and see in the   TOP command if something is being blocked or being sent out.
[07:12] <Kingtiger01> Hello all... again... whos using karmic?
[07:12] <sf17k> I play games in wine and every few minutes something uses a lot of cpu for a few seconds, drastically slowing down the game. this only happens periodically so I don't know what the process could be, any ideas?
[07:13] <jones-> Kingtiger01: I am, and I'm here because i have sound problems :)
[07:14] <techie> anyone know how to get a dual head setup on an ATI card using the open source drivers?
[07:14] <ryguy> ubu_nub: ah thank you very much
[07:14] <ewp> didymous, i never did vpn but ubuntugeek has a guide for pptp vpn: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-configure-pptp-vpn-in-ubuntu-intrepid-and-jaunty.html
[07:14] <Kingtiger01> jones: Gotta love there new choice of sound deamons... i suggested not to switch from Alsa...
[07:14] <ubu_nub> ryguy: np. now you get to learn iptables drop commands. :)
[07:14] <jimbeam12> hey ewp..just check my menu.lst its not there..
[07:14] <didymous> ewp thank you
[07:14] <ryguy> ubu_nub: =)
[07:15] <ewp> jimbeam12, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:15] <ewp> MENU.LST
[07:15] <Curly_Q> It is time for another BEER folks. Any takers? It is on the house.   :)
[07:15] <jimbeam12> yes i have it up ..that line not there
[07:15] <ewp> to be clear that the L is not a one or i
[07:15] <jimbeam12> i can paste bin for u
[07:16] <ewp> jimbeam12, then just add it
[07:16] <ewp> jimbeam12, splashimage=/grub/splashimages/grub-splash-dark.xpm.gz
[07:16] <jimbeam12> where at the start
[07:16] <ewp> jimbeam12, just rename it to your file
[07:16] <ewp> yea, that'll work
[07:16] <ewp> i just suggest before your kernels
[07:16] <joakimk_> I
[07:16] <Kingtiger01> anyone having issues with (V:20090701)CA-Certificates with BOINC?
[07:17] <jimbeam12> ok done lets c..if i have any issue..ill catch on live cd ..heheh
[07:17] <LeChacal> hello, i am having a problem getting my mouse to work with my ups because of special mouse drivers and i am told that i need to get my mouse drive to load before usbhid module is load. How do i do this?
[07:17] <joakimk_> I want to use my Nokia phone (3720) as a GPRS modem for my Ubuntu laptop. For XP there is a "Nokia Suite" software, but how is this done in Ubuntu?
[07:17] <techie> i need help setting up dual head with open source ATI drivers
[07:18] <creative>  sound converter ---> http://creative-blog.co.cc/wp/?p=439
[07:18] <ryguy> ubu_nub: w00t, back down to 0 kb/s =D
[07:18] <jimbeam12> ewp should i put that line on the start of the menu.lst
[07:19] <ubu_nub> ryguy: get it blocked than?
[07:19] <jimbeam12> or it doesent matter
[07:19] <ewp> jimbeam12, i suggest anywhere before your OS list
[07:19] <ewp> where other setting options are
[07:19] <jimbeam12> ok coll .brb..hope..lol
[07:19] <ryguy> ubu_nub: Well, It was a custom conky script that executes every minute and displays all the current users on a forum I goto, So I just removed the script entirely
[07:19] <NoCode> !dualhead | techie
[07:20] <Curly_Q> Kingtiger01 check this out:           http://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/Installing_on_Linux
[07:20] <ewp> jimbeam12, there should be a commented example for you in the file already
[07:20] <techie> NoCode, already there
[07:20] <creative> http://creative-blog.co.cc/wp/ my blog
[07:20] <NoCode> ah, okay. Not sure otherwise then.
[07:20] <jimbeam12> should it like #splashimage=/grub/splashimages/grub-splash-dark.xpm.gz
[07:20] <jimbeam12> or just splashimage=/grub/splashimages/grub-splash-dark.xpm.gz
[07:20] <creative>  sound converter ---> http://creative-blog.co.cc/wp/?p=439
[07:20] <jimbeam12> without the hash..
[07:20] <ubu_nub> ryguy: outbound spam. nice.
[07:21] <ryguy> ubu_nub: I'm sure the forums admins appreciated it, too =p
[07:21] <ubu_nub> lol
[07:21] <ewp> no # before the line, # means the entire line will be ignored. it's known as a "comment"
[07:24] <[[thufir]]> how do you add path info to /etc/bash.bashrc ?
[07:25] <[[thufir]]> what's a global path?
[07:26] <LeChacal> hello, can someone tell me how to change the order in which modules are load? Or some way that I can get one module to load before another?
[07:26] <Curly_Q> I would like to say to all of the folks here a huge THANK YOU for all of your hard work and research. I think that all of the folks here should give a great appreciation of gratitude for the arduous work that most of us take the time and give it for free. JUST SAY THANK YOU.
[07:26] <techie> fresh install of ubuntu 8.10 is only detecting one screen on my ATI card
[07:27] <shos> Hello, can amarok work in Gnome environment?
[07:27] <oldude67> shos, yes
[07:27] <DasEi> [[thufir]]: echo in $PATH tells you
[07:27]  * ryguy says THANK YOU to everyone here as well
[07:27] <DasEi> [[thufir]]: echo  $PATH  in trml tells you*
[07:27] <ryguy> you guys dont get paid enough for this =p
[07:27] <shos> I want to join Curly_Q on that btw
[07:28] <shos> thanks
[07:28] <oldude67> yw
[07:28] <ubu_nub> ryguy: I learned something from that export command. it's all good.
[07:28] <ewp> i wish i had a beer
[07:29] <techie> i need help ubuntu is only detecting one of my 2 screens
[07:29] <ewp> damn liquor stores closed :-(
[07:29] <suji> what is command to search a particular package in our system is installed or not?
[07:29] <ryguy> ubu_nub: Yeah? I learned to properly exit my code so its not piling up dozens of http requests haha
[07:29] <ewp> !dualhead | techie
[07:29] <shos> whereis?
[07:29] <didymous> ewp: looks like everyone else is having problems with vpn in jaunty, i think i will skip it for now
[07:29] <shos> suji: whereis package
[07:29] <oldude67> !ati | techie
[07:30] <techie> ewp, your the second person to point me there
[07:30] <didymous> does anyone know if the remote desktop option can be encrypted?
[07:30] <Kingtiger01> RDP or VNC?
[07:30] <CastilleV> Ubottu: Training
[07:30] <ewp> techie, well it provides good advice Xinerama is great for setting up dual monitor, so look into it
[07:30] <suji> shos: i want to know some packages are already installed my system or not?
[07:30] <Bluey> suji try sudo dpkg -l | grep <packagename>
 RDP or VLC?
 RDP or VNC*
[07:31] <didymous> Kingtiger01: the defualt in jaunty
[07:31] <suji> Bluey: okey
[07:31] <techie> ewp, xinerama is already installed, but ubuntu isnt detecting the screen on the DVI output
[07:31] <ScottG> I have an sftp connection and can browse a server in nautilus. When I open a file in gedit it seems to work flawlessly. However, if I open it with gvim nothing seems to happen. Could someone help me out with this?
[07:31] <bullgard4> I am going to import my Evolution addressbook to Thunderbird. Thunderbird's import wizard > Import Address Book has an line 'Record data to import=id". What does this 'id' (identifier) mean in Thunderbird's addressbook?
[07:31] <DasEi> Kingtiger01: as I remember it's ssh-crypted
[07:31] <ewp> techie, it's all in your xorg.conf this page should help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[07:31] <CastilleV> Ubottu training
[07:32] <techie> ewp, sigh, i hate writing xorg.conf's they never work for me
[07:32] <ewp> techie, just make sure to backup your working xorg.conf
[07:33] <ewp> techie, manipulating with xorg.conf is your only option to get dualheads setup
[07:33] <Curly_Q> EWP stock up on your beer for a rainy day.
[07:33] <ewp> Curly_Q, i'm in NJ and it's raining right now
[07:33] <Bluey> techie - rule number 1 in dealing with computers:  always have a path back to the way it was, before you messed it up.  Rule # 2:  follow rule # 1
[07:33] <Curly_Q> Me too but I stocked up on beer.
[07:33] <oldude67> ewp, good keep it for a few days..:D
[07:34] <ewp> screenlets says its goin to be cloudy so a slight chance of rain
[07:35] <ewp> tomorrow
[07:35] <ewp> well today during the day i meant
[07:35] <jdv> please can someone help me mount my root filesystem
[07:36] <Bluey> ewp -- they say we're going to have a low of 58 here tonight -- first low under 60 since may 1
[07:36] <ewp> jdv, how did you break fstab to not mount the root fs?
[07:36] <Bluey> jdv hang on
[07:36] <Curly_Q> I am curious, is there any Linux graphics besides the following website:  http://www.linfo.org/software_artists.html   <--------<   Has anyone used any of these programs?
[07:36] <kryptos> i'm in the process of installing Version 9.10 does anyone think this is NOT a good idea?
[07:37] <jdv> I got the filesystem does not have init error
[07:37] <ewp> well the equinox was just 2 days ago
[07:37] <Bluey> jdv try this:  http://pkill-9.com/wordpress/?p=9
[07:37] <jdv> so I used live cd to get in and now trying to update udev
[07:37] <jdv> but I cant mount my main drive it says possible bad block or wrong fs type
[07:37] <losher> kryptos: depends how much stability you're after. 8.04 LTS is probably the most stable release available...
[07:37] <ewp> jdv ahhhhhhh bad blocks!!! old hard drive
[07:37] <jdv> :(
[07:38] <ewp> !badblocks
[07:38] <ewp> jdv, man badblocks
[07:38] <losher> jdv: can you fsck the partition?
[07:38] <Curly_Q> JDV to answer any questions about your problem, you need to explain and tell what you are using for hardware.
[07:38] <jdv> im not sure how from this situation
[07:38] <jdv> infact im not even sure which device is my main drive since two possible devices are giving me the same error from mount
[07:39] <ewp> jdv, you'll have to boot into a livecd
[07:39] <Bluey> jdv what file type are you using?
[07:39] <jdv> im in a live cd. I am 99% sure I am ext2
[07:39] <DasEi> Kingtiger01: still around ?
[07:39] <jdv> but when I try both ext2 and ext3 it gives same error.
[07:39] <losher> jdv: please run sudo fsck -l (lower case L) and pastebin the output
[07:39] <ewp> jdv, 'blkid' will tell you
[07:39] <jimbeam12> hey ewp
[07:39] <ewp> jimbeam12, any luck?
[07:39] <losher> jdv: please run sudo fdisk -l (lower case L) and pastebin the output (FDISK, not FSCK !!)
[07:39] <jimbeam12> guess what..the freaking thinkg stuff up on me..lol
[07:40] <jimbeam12> iam on my laptop right now
[07:40] <jdv> heh ok
[07:40] <Curly_Q> JDV are you running a SCSI RAID device? I know the answer.
[07:40] <jdv> yea
[07:40] <jdv> but no raid setup
[07:40] <ScottG> I have an sftp connection and can browse a server in nautilus. When I open a file in gedit it seems to work flawlessly. However, if I open it with gvim nothing seems to happen. Could someone help me out with this?
[07:40] <jdv> I removed it
[07:40] <jimbeam12> ive tried this before ..how to retriece the menu.lst file with no luck
[07:40] <jimbeam12> startup manager sucks...lol
[07:41] <Curly_Q> So you are running SCSI?
[07:41] <jdv> yes Curly_Q
[07:41] <Curly_Q> OK.
[07:41] <abhilashm86> E: Unable to write mmap - msync (28 No space left on device)
[07:41] <abhilashm86> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[07:41] <Curly_Q> Now we are geting somewhere.
[07:41] <abhilashm86> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[07:42] <Curly_Q> JDV how many CPU's do you have on you motherboard?
[07:42] <abhilashm86> i just messed up status and others in /var/lib/dpkg, how to correct??
[07:42] <jdv> just one amd
[07:42] <ewp> jimbeam12, well my splashimage file is located in /boot/grub/splashimages and here's a copy of my menu.lst. other than that idk what to tell ya :-P http://paste.ubuntu.com/276822/
[07:42] <Curly_Q> OK.
[07:42] <jdv> sudo fdisk -l shows my / devide is /dev/sdb2
[07:42] <ewp> jimbeam12, yes startupmanager does suck but i use it for quick editing
[07:42] <Curly_Q> You said SCSI but no RAID?
[07:43] <jdv> well I had raid when under windows but when I replaced with ubuntu the raid caused install problems so I used the dell utility to remove the raid which fixed it and I never setup it again
[07:43] <abhilashm86> can anyone post output of /var/lib/available and /var/lib/status, i deleted it...........
[07:43] <abhilashm86> how to recover those??
[07:44] <jdv> dell utility is some sort of rom memory thing.
[07:44] <Bluey> I can do that abhila -- what's the pastbin url?
[07:44] <Curly_Q> JDV did you totally delete the HARD DRIVE of all DATA and have you done a:   /MBR
[07:45] <DasEi> !paste | Bluey
[07:45] <jdv> my ubuntu was working fine for months since my meddling with raid
[07:45] <bullgard4> I am going to import my Evolution addressbook to Thunderbird. Thunderbird's import wizard > Import Address Book has an line 'Record data to import=id". What does this 'id' (identifier) mean in Thunderbird's addressbook?
[07:45] <Curly_Q> Actually the command is /fdisk MBR
[07:45] <jdv> should I run that?
[07:46] <Curly_Q> Don't do that command unless you know what you are doing!!!!!!!!
[07:46] <jdv> lol
[07:46] <jdv> I dont so I didnt.
[07:46] <Curly_Q> Good.
[07:46] <DasEi> Kingtiger01: still around ?
[07:46] <Curly_Q> I am teaching you a lesson here.
[07:46] <Bluey> abhila - I have no /var/lib/available or /var/lib/status
[07:46] <jdv> appreciate it.. so how can I mount my fs ?
[07:46] <jpds> Bluey: /var/lib/dpkg/
[07:47] <Curly_Q> It is possible that your Master Boot Record is Corrupted.
[07:47] <jdv> I used SGD to correct it
[07:47] <Bluey> wow that a lot of stuph
[07:47] <Curly_Q> How many Operating Systems do you have on your drive in question?
[07:48] <jdv> which succeeded.. or so it said, but I get the error http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-223773.html
[07:48] <umar> i ran out of space on /home, how do i increase its file size?
[07:48] <jdv> just ubuntu 8.1 and 9.1
[07:48] <jdv> dont know why ubuntu 8 is still there but it stayed with 5gb partition after upgrade to jaunty
[07:49] <Bluey> umar -- ls -l -t -r    then start removing files
[07:49] <Curly_Q> UMAR guess what?  Re-Install and get a larger hard drive.
[07:49] <jdv> so when I do sudo mount -t ext2 /dev/sdb2 /mnt I get
[07:50] <Curly_Q> Five Gigs is rediculous in this world of computers.
[07:50] <jdv> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on device, missing blah blah
[07:50] <jdv> no my main jaunty has 250gb
[07:50] <Garefield> hi everyone i need some help installing my cdma modem on ubuntu 9.04
[07:50] <jdv> which is my os
[07:50] <umar> Bluey and Curly_Q, i think it would be better if i can decrease the size of some other partition and increase the size of /home, my file system is saying  that 18.5 GB is allocated to /home
[07:51] <Curly_Q> Umar, that is true.
[07:51] <desperado> I'd like to install the package so I can read mail from commandline ($ mail) - but when I do a "apt-get install mailutils", a lot of other packages are to be installed (eg mysql, exim, ...) which I don't need (I use postfix as mailserver) ... can I have "mail" on commandline wihtout all the other stuff ?
[07:51] <jdv> thanks for your help im going to go and connect to my bad system so I can use pastebin
[07:52] <Bluey> wow this is taking forever to post
[07:52] <Curly_Q> Reduce the size of the partitions. Root is the partition that is important. Next make sure that other partitions are not going to be increased or added to.
[07:52] <kiamo> hi all,  I recently migrated to ubuntu from windows, and I have to say its pretty good.  I just seem to have some media playback problems...  My mp3s sometimes skip, and watching videos in flash players online are a bit choppy... Please can anyone point me in the right direction?
[07:53] <Bluey> okay I don't remember who wanted /var/lib/dpkg/available but it's here:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/276827/
[07:54] <geirha> desperado: mailx
[07:54] <Bluey> you need to comment out line 1 and note that I am runnng and amd64
[07:54] <ryguy> hmmm. I make a file called 'test' and in it I have `#!/bin/bash<NEWLINE>echo "hi"` and when im in the terminal in that directory and I run `$ ./test` I get `bash: ./test: Permission denied`
[07:54] <umar> Curly_Q, how do i reduce the size of the partitions? is there a interface to select the various partitions, and increase/decrease theier sizes, or do i need to start in recovery mode and carry out the operations from there? or is there some other way? can u point me to how i can change the sizes of the 4 partitions that i have?
[07:55] <kiamo> ryguy, have you changed the file permissions to 777, or whatever allows you to execute the file
[07:55] <BlackFate> ryguy, does it work with sudo?
[07:55] <Xgates>  why in the mainline kernels there are TWO headers listed, one called generic and one that is not, it seems like you have to install both...
[07:55] <umar> the partitions i have are: 1) /, 2) /boot, 3) /home, and 4) /home/umar/.gvfs
[07:56] <Curly_Q> UMAR, just keep in mind that that
[07:56] <ryguy> Ahh I got it, I was running `chmod -x ./test` instead of `chmod +x ./test`
[07:56] <ryguy> Thanks though
[07:56] <Curly_Q> SWAP partition equals or not doubles the your RAM.
[07:56] <BlackFate> ok
[07:56] <jimbeam12> hi anyone know how to retriece my menu list
[07:56] <jimbeam12> retrieve grub/menu list
[07:57] <Bluey> and here is /var/log/dpkg/status -- http://paste.ubuntu.com/276829/
[07:57] <jimbeam12> what is the correct procedure
[07:57] <umar> Curly_Q, which one of hte 4 is the SWAP partition?
[07:57] <Curly_Q> The SWAP partition in Linux is the same as the " CONTIGUOUS" file in Windows. It works the same.
[07:58] <jdv> unfortunately I cant install an irc client on my dead system since I cant mount my /
[07:58] <jussi01> Garefield: does the modem not appear in the network manager?
[07:58] <Curly_Q> It should say /swap
[07:58] <Garefield> no it does not
[07:58] <Garefield> but if i do lsusb it is detected
[07:59] <djshotglass> http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5263757
[07:59] <djshotglass> $200 quad core with 2gb ram hmm
[07:59] <jussi01> Garefield: which model is it?
[07:59] <se7vn> jimbeam12, you mean you want to edit the grub menu.lst ?
[07:59] <Kingtiger01> *Cringes and the thoughr of TD*
[07:59] <umar> Curly_Q, i dont have any partition with name /swap, the four that my System Monitor is showing are:  1) /, 2) /boot, 3) /home, and 4) /home/umar/.gvfs
[08:00] <Curly_Q> The only difference is in Windows the SWAP or Contiguous file is not really a partition. However, you can use a separate hard drive with Windows to SWAP files as a contiguous file. it is involved, but you should get the idea.
[08:00] <henry8> do anyone facing problem in installing mysql in ubuntu?
[08:00] <ubu_nub> anyone know a way to clean up dpkg? I'm getting a segfault from aptitude/apt-get when trying to do anything. aptitude install foo for instance.
[08:01] <umar> Curly_Q, with sizes being: 1)37GB, 2)91MB,3)18.5Gb, and 4)37GB respectively
[08:01] <desperado> geirha: mailx also comes with exim ...
[08:01] <jimbeam12> yes se7vn
[08:01] <henry8> I follow the step in http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-do-i-enableremote-
[08:01] <henry8> at the 1st installation it works!
[08:01] <Curly_Q> The point is that you need to install Ubuntu or any Linux Kernel with a /swap file.
[08:02] <ubu_nub> I can't determine if it's the apt utils or the db's
[08:02] <th0ger> ubu_nub: aptitude clean (cleans cache)
[08:02] <henry8> after i upgraded to ubuntu 9.0.4, my mysql cannot remote access login already
[08:02] <th0ger> ubu_nub: maybe that helps
[08:02] <henry8> may i know, is this a bug?
[08:02] <CastilleV> Hey, just a general question, and it does relate to Ubuntu, but if I wanted to make programs for Ubuntu, would it be better to learn C#, Python, or Ruby?
[08:02] <tasslehoff> when I plugin my webcamera the pwc driver is chose, but I want to use gspca instead. how can I control this?
[08:02] <henry8> previous ubuntu i use is ubuntu 8
[08:02] <ubu_nub> th0ger: it gives a segfault as well.
[08:03] <joaopinto> CastilleV, Python is the prefered language
[08:03] <jussi01> CastilleV: your choice, all of them work... probably best to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:03] <Curly_Q> CastilleV learn POSIX COMPLIANT C and you will do good if you want to be a good programmer.
[08:03] <lolek> hello all, guys i have a problem with pulseaudi pavucontrol - it says connection refused. I checked out the permissions i tried to reload the daemon without any success .. any idea what else i can do ?
[08:03] <ubu_nub> th0ger: segfault at cb0af058 ip b7e8b0ff sp bfe47f00 error 5 in libapt-pkg-libc6.8-6.so.4.6.0[b7e56000+bf000]
[08:04] <ubu_nub> is what /var/log/messages is giving me.
[08:04] <henry8> annyone know?
[08:04] <Curly_Q> POSIX compliancy is a portable C language which works well with UNIX, LINUX, and Windows etc.
[08:05] <CastilleV> OK, I notice some programs for *nix aren't very stable, so that does help a little bit.
[08:05] <th0ger> ubu_nub: so both apt (and aptitude) is broken. dpkg works?
[08:05] <banisterfiend> anyone konw the best way to convert html to markdown?
[08:05] <ubu_nub> lets see if it can search.
[08:06] <umar> Curly_Q, just googled and found that gparted is a tool for resizing partitions. i need to install it using apt-get, and hopefully it is all straightforward from then on?
[08:06] <jussi01> !pm | Garefield
[08:06] <ubu_nub> th0ger: ahhh. ....dpkg-query: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 32760 package `notification-daemon':
[08:07] <Garefield> sorry
[08:07] <ubu_nub> th0ger: .... `Depends' field, invalid package name `.6': must start with an alphanumeric
[08:07] <ubu_nub> thx
[08:07] <th0ger> ubu_nub: try to reinstall apt with dpkg. (may the libapt package above). Perhaps dpkg-reconfigure
[08:07] <Curly_Q> Lolek there is a PORT BLOCK somewhere there. Or a permissions problem. Or a network IP block on those particular PORTS.
[08:08] <lolek> Curly_Q: ok i found the problem
[08:08] <ubu_nub> th0ger: yep. let me screw my brain back on.
[08:08] <henry8> henry patiently waiting for respond
[08:08] <henry8> :(
[08:08] <Curly_Q> What was the problem?
[08:08] <lolek> Curly_Q: i need to run pulseaudio : --system -D --disallow-exit --disallow-module-loading
[08:08] <lolek> Curly_Q: after that everything is ok...
[08:09] <Curly_Q> Great.
[08:09] <lolek> Curly_Q: it's weird... cause, as i remember pulseaudio was designed to be run as normal user...
[08:10]  * mekanik waves
[08:10] <darkangel> question, using vlc which would be th ebest format to record/stream something in???
[08:11] <jimbeam12> anyone know how to edit menu.lst iam on live cd
[08:11] <CastilleV> .ogg, right? Its an opensource file extension.
[08:11] <Curly_Q> Lolek, as a Network Administrator, I see these problems all of the time. And the main problem and most sought after questions has to do with permissions problems. If you have a shell account, you don't have permissions unless the Network Administrator allows or permits your interactions.
[08:12] <lolek> Curly_Q: well i know that but... it's on my local machine...
[08:12] <darkangel> is that for the vlc question???
[08:12] <lolek> Curly_Q: and.. i don't thing there is any need of having root perm for playing ... sound o.O
[08:12]  * mekanik ponders his very "newbie" questions....
[08:13] <Curly_Q> With any LINUX or UBUNTU issue ROOT is everything. With permissions, you can control the world of Linux.
[08:13] <desperado> I'd like to install the package so I can read mail from commandline ($ mail) - but when I do a "apt-get install mailutils", a lot of other packages are to be installed (eg mysql, exim, ...), mailx comes with exim too - which I don't need (I use postfix as mailserver) ... can I have "mail" on commandline wihtout all the other stuff ?
[08:13] <desperado> I'm looking on Google etc too but no luck / no info
[08:14] <Kingtiger01> ROOT = Ultimate-Power
[08:14] <Kingtiger01> with power comes Great responsibility...
[08:15] <Curly_Q> Nice point and well taken KingTiger01  <---------------------------<
[08:15] <lolek> Curly_Q: but... abot the pulseaudio... it still doesn't solve my problem :D
[08:15] <Curly_Q> Try a Wikipedia or a Google on that.
[08:16] <umar> Curly_Q, found a solution, moving stuff out from there into /www/newfolder. actually the cirtual pc images were taking quite a lot of space
[08:17] <Curly_Q> Umar that tells me a lot and as I said earlier, a small Hard Drive is useless.
[08:18] <umar> Curly_Q, i mean i had two 5 GB images of a virtual pcs in my home folder, i just moved them out to create space. but for a better fix, shoudi use gparted?
[08:20] <Curly_Q> The bottom line is it is like shoving down the throat of someone a 30 pound turkey when they have just ate a pork loin steak. Think about it.
[08:20] <Jyxt> so...anyone know why games like games like openarena use both screens in a dual monitor setup
[08:20] <Jyxt> but if i go full screen in say vlc, it knows to stay in the one monitor?
[08:21] <Garefield> hello ppl i am here with  a problem can anyone help me
[08:21] <Jyxt> or hell even playing a game thru wine...stays in one monitor...but openarena uses both, its a bit of a pain in the arse
[08:21] <Garefield> i want to connect to internet using my huawei 2258 cdma phone
[08:21] <Kingtiger01> Curly_Q: More like using a Atom Bomb for fishing...
[08:21] <jimbeam12> some know how i get edit my grub/menu.lst file
[08:21] <Garefield> but i dont know how to do it
[08:21] <jimbeam12> iam on live cd now
[08:22] <Garefield> wvdial does not reconize my modem but lsusb dies
[08:22] <Garefield> does
[08:22] <Kingtiger01> Curly_Q: by giving any application root access, they can modify any configuration... i use fakeroot for everything anymore...
[08:22] <Jyxt> jimbeam12: mount /dev/sd## /mnt/boot
[08:22] <Jyxt> jimbeam12: or something along those lines...then edit away
[08:23] <Curly_Q> How in hell do you fake root?
[08:23] <Kingtiger01> fakeroot is a package...
[08:23] <se7vn> pretend-sudo
[08:23] <Kingtiger01> fakeroot is similiar to sudo, but without giving write access and some other permissions..
[08:23] <Curly_Q> You would'nt catch me using a fake root program.
[08:24] <ph33r> why do you need fakeroot in the first place ?
[08:24]  * mekanik sits, watches and learns.. :)
[08:24] <Kingtiger01> well then... you have never built sources have you..
[08:24] <jimbeam12> nope still getting an empty menul.lst  jyxt
[08:24] <ph33r> why not the real root ? (pardon my lack of knowledge though) :)
[08:24] <Curly_Q> As a Network Administrator, I would never advise anyone to use a FAKE ROOT.
[08:25] <tasslehoff> anyone know how I can choose which driver is used with my webcam? I want gspca instead of pwc
[08:25] <Jyxt> jimbeam12: ls -l /mnt/boot/
[08:25] <techie> i need help ridding my system of the stupid X server check in ubuntu, as it always complains when i use a non default xorg.conf and it even reports errors when i use an xorg.conf that it makes
[08:25] <Jyxt> jimbeam12: what does it say? if you get nothing then you didnt mount the right partition
[08:25] <golding> can some one tell me how which download will help improve my resolution for a nvidia card?
[08:25] <Kingtiger01> Curly_Q: then you would NEVER be able to build -DEV packages for Ubuntu/Debia Repositorys!!!
[08:26] <Curly_Q> To me FAKE ROOT is nothing but a KIDDIE SCRIPT or HACK to use as a back door and I would not and don't encourage anyone here to listen to this.
[08:26] <jimbeam12> i can pastebin it jyxt
[08:26] <mekanik> i was just happy when Ubuntu found my new HP printer automatically :D
[08:26] <techie> i need help ridding my system of the stupid X server check in ubuntu, as it always complains when i use a non default xorg.conf and it even reports errors when i use an xorg.conf that it makes
[08:27] <student_> iop
[08:27] <Jyxt> jimbeam12: if ls -l /mnt/boot/ has stuff...then /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst should also have stuff
[08:28] <student_> Akkarin du huso
[08:28] <Kingtiger01> Curly_Q: if youre a REAL network Administrator... i would suggest you take a read over at linuxquestions about compiling Libs... its NOT a backdoor, it STOPS Applications that you launch from OVERWRITING other files... WITHOUT IT. you would have a unbootable system when building certian applications... And being that you dont know this i HIGHLY doubt you are a NA, you wouldnt Survive as a IT or SA.
[08:28] <jdv_> please can anyone suggest what I should do with these errors? http://pastebin.com/m3d8579c3
[08:28] <se7vn> Jyxt, even if he's running from a livecd with no distro installed?
[08:28] <student_> uuueeeee
[08:28] <Splash> uéééééé
[08:29] <Jyxt> se7vn: he apparantly had it installed before, menu.lst got overwrote or something so he booted into livecd to fix
[08:29] <joakimk_> Can someone help me configure a GPRS connection?
[08:29] <Jyxt> jimbeam12: your boot partition has contents, but menu.lst is empty? 0 file size?
[08:30] <jimbeam12> yes
[08:31] <joakimk_> I tried connecting with *sudo pppd nomagic call gprs* and my cellphone responds. But my laptop isn't online. Also, how do I *disconnect*?
[08:31] <Jyxt> jimbeam12: not sure how i can help you...guess i could paste you mine menu.lst (fresh install)
[08:31] <Jyxt> but the uuid's would be all different
[08:31] <jimbeam12> have u got dual boot
[08:32] <Jyxt> jimbeam12:
[08:32] <Jyxt> no
[08:32] <Curly_Q> KingTiger01 I totally subscribe to being an:   " Ethical Hacker" You may not know much about it but it is something to subscribe to. People like myself works very hard to stop hacking and foolishness to pervade within the ranks of a social environment.
[08:32] <jimbeam12> ok paste it lll ill have a look at it
[08:32] <mekanik> an ethical hacker.... *ponders* .. i can see that...
[08:33] <mekanik> It is though to my understanding that Ubuntu is a lot more secure than Windows .. correct?
[08:34] <Curly_Q> Mekanik,
[08:34] <constantine_> I'm getting a black screen of death in ubuntu when I try to copy terminal outputs
[08:34] <Curly_Q> Security is beyond the scope of your comment.
[08:34] <mekanik> I surmise that to be quite a bit of security then?
[08:34] <Jyxt> jimbeam12: http://pastebin.com/d6e5fb1d1
[08:34] <joakimk_> If "sudo poff" tells me "/usr/bin/poff: No pppd is running.  None stopped" Does that mean I have no active connection?
[08:35] <Jyxt> jimbeam12: this is a fresh install...only like 3 hours old
[08:35] <Curly_Q> I teach classes all day long on this subject.
[08:35] <jimbeam12> ok thx
[08:35] <jimbeam12> ill have a look at it thx
[08:35] <Jyxt> mekanik: *nix is inherintly more secure than windows for a variety of reasons
[08:36] <joakimk_> Anyone?
[08:36] <Curly_Q> Security is only based upon the responsibility of the Network Administrators ability and understanding and knowledge of the job at hand.
[08:36] <mekanik> i'm just a simple home user..
[08:36] <bubill> entaintment for windows , work for *nix
[08:37] <Kingtiger01> Curly_Q: You know.... when i got up to go to work tonight... I knew some one would try and press my Buttons with Noobish Definitions of a DEBIAN package written by Linus Torvalds... THE MAKER OF THE LINUX KERNEL.. if want a lecture on hacking.. ill go talk to Kevin Mitnick, or go back to college and listen to another lecture from a proffessor. But, i think i should know a little bit about the diffirence between a Bash/SH/Perl Sc
[08:37] <Kingtiger01> ript and a SU_like Jail-Application thats STOPS hacked applications or applications DESIGNED to damage youre system, or applications period from REPLACING youre system files... stop trying to play a Experience *nix user.
[08:37] <Boohbah> Curly_Q: false. what if somebody walks into your datacenter and takes your server?
[08:38] <Boohbah> Curly_Q: what if someone calls support and gets a password? can either of those be prevented by a network admin?
[08:38] <Curly_Q> Kingtiger01 there are many Kevin Mitnick out HERE.
[08:38] <Boohbah> Curly_Q: http://www.schneier.com/
[08:39] <constantine_> I have a black screen when I try to copy from terminal that doesn't go away
[08:39] <indus> hi
[08:39] <Boohbah> Curly_Q: a network administrator could not have prevented mitnick's social engineering attacks
[08:39] <Curly_Q> Constantine   SCREEN SAVER shut it off.
[08:39] <Jyxt> Curly_Q: psh, kevin mitnick isnt a hacker...he's a social engineer
[08:39] <tehbaut> any good pw managers that work with ubuntu, windows, and maybe iphone and/or winmoble?
[08:39] <Jyxt> he's good at talking the talk
[08:40] <Curly_Q> I read his profile.
[08:40] <Boohbah> Jyxt: in the broader definition of the term, mitnick IS a hacker
[08:40] <Jyxt> Boohbah: well by all rights and definitions most computer users are hackers...we forget that popular media altered the term to something nefarious back in the 80's
[08:40] <Jyxt> before the media got a hold of it...a hacker was essentially a programmer
[08:41] <Kingtiger01> Obviously... but 70% of them are worried about personal gain... not pissing off some network admin... i was a child of the 80's. i grew up playing around with my IBM PC1, and getting Loop numbers... doesnt mean i consort those actions now... i regret them. but i learned something, unlike some people.
[08:41] <Jyxt> if'n you want to talk semantics Boohbah
[08:41] <Curly_Q> I like your definition Jyxt.
[08:41] <se7vn> Boohbah : That guy didn't spare on paying the HTML team much did he LOL
[08:41] <BuGo_laptop> hi. i have weirdest problem. When i type anything in search bar in NetBeans or Firefox and search fails (text i search is not found) whole screen flashes black. As if every window in screen is being redrawn.
[08:41] <BuGo_laptop> maybe this comes from some sound effect?
[08:41] <Curly_Q> Mitnick made a mistake and paid for it.
[08:41] <constantine_> Curly_O - that worked thanks
[08:42] <henry8> need help
[08:42] <BuGo_laptop> any ideas?
[08:42] <Jyxt> to me a hacker is someone who uses the code to gain entry, whereas a social engineer (mitnick) use's charm and charisma
[08:42] <henry8> why the hostname is 127.0.0.1 but the domain = 127.0.1.1?
[08:42] <Curly_Q> Constantine did you shut off the screen saver?
[08:43] <Curly_Q> 127.0.0l.1 is the local host which is the NIC card and you can PING it.
[08:43] <Xgates> I installed the mainline kernel  2.6.31-020631 cause I'm running a macbook pro and it's the only one that will allow the macbook to restart. At boot up I get these msgs: 'ssb: ERROR: PLL init unknown for device 4322',  ' ssb: ERROR: PMU resource config unknown for device 4322'  Anyone know anything?
[08:44] <Matt______> I can't logg on to even order the new version...even though in other places it says I am...i wonder if this could be because of Opera browser?
[08:44] <Curly_Q> Sorry 127.0.0.1 is the local host and you can open up a Command Prompt and do a :   /ping localhost
[08:45] <tehbaut> is there a way to control the order and timing of startup items?
[08:45] <Curly_Q> Also :   /ping 127.0.0.1
[08:45] <Boohbah> se7vn: it's more about content than presentation.
[08:45] <Xgates> ahhh ssb Sonics Silicon Backplane
[08:45] <morpheuss> tehbaut, /etc/rc?.d
[08:46] <Matt______> i guess i should try IE then,,,,
[08:46] <constantine__> yes Curly_O, still having difficulties with this compiz-manager command in terminal - it turns my whole screen black
[08:47] <morpheuss> constantine, you have graphic card?
[08:47] <constantine__> MESA DRI Intel 945G 20061102 x86/mmx/sse2
[08:47] <Curly_Q> Constantine, try using the screen resolution and changing the format.  You may be asking the computer to supply more pixels than what is asked for.
[08:47] <constantine__> how do I do that
[08:48] <se7vn> Boohbah : Presentation's the easy part, thought that wouldn't have been overlooked
[08:48] <Curly_Q> Change the the screen resolution.
[08:48] <Jyxt> constantine__: i had this problem before...no matter what i did compiz always turned my screen black, its because by default compiz doesn't have a wm...so it doesn't know *how* to draw things on your screen
[08:48] <constantine__> but it has the correct screen resolution for my monitor and it works in windows
[08:49] <constantine__> jyxt, it worked fine for months
[08:49] <MausP> Hello together. Why does "du -hs file" reports a very different  value for filesize than "ls -hla file" ?
[08:49] <Jyxt> constantine__: oh then nvm :P
[08:49] <tehbaut> thanks morpheuss
[08:49] <constantine__> then I left it alone for four months and turned it back on and it does this
[08:49] <MausP> I differs for about 25GB on a 40GB file
[08:49] <Curly_Q> Shut off the screen saver and the autoprotect.
[08:49] <soreau> Jyard: compiz *is* a WM. His drivers are b0rken
[08:50] <MausP> root@kl08010811:/vmware# ls -hla disk.img
[08:50] <MausP> -rw-r----- 1 root root 38G 2009-09-24 08:37 disk.img
[08:50] <MausP> root@kl08010811:/vmware# du -hs disk.img
[08:50] <MausP> 13G     disk.img
[08:50] <MausP> root@kl08010811:/vmware#
[08:50] <FloodBot1> MausP: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <constantine__> already did, Curly_O
[08:50] <Jyxt> so with a dual monitor setup, anyone know why games like openarena try to spread across both monitors?
[08:50] <MausP> sorry for flooding: here's the paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/276858/
[08:51] <Jyxt> instead of using one monitor like everything else that goes full screen
[08:51] <Aayush> does any one know how to use halevt to auto mount pendrive in text mode
[08:51] <Curly_Q> Constantine try shutting down your antivirus software if you have it installed or anything that has a TIMER on it.
[08:52] <mrtux> exit
[08:53] <constantine__> nothing like that is running
[08:54] <constantine__> after 4 months, should I just update everything in synaptic?
[08:54] <Curly_Q> It may be Constantine that your Monitor is bad. Have you tried to replace it to check if it is good or bad?
[08:54] <soreau> ! update | constantine__
[08:54] <constantine__> my monitor is great, new and working in windows
[08:56] <Curly_Q> Just because it works with Windows, it does not mean it will work with UBUNTU or Linux. In fact, I have had this problem with a nice monitor and it was the drivers and not the monitor or the computer or the OS.
[08:56] <constantine__> that doesn't make any sense, though - its working fine right now and with every other application
[08:56] <Curly_Q> It does make sense.
[08:56] <Aayush> does any one know how to use halevt to auto mount pendrive in text mode
[08:57] <constantine__> but it does work with ubuntu - just not compiz
[08:57] <jimbeam12> anyone know hot to edit menu.lst in grub
[08:57] <ubu_nub> th0ger: still having problems with apt. this bug report is short but comes close: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager-core/+bug/300465
[08:57] <Aayush> jimbeam12, ? do u want to edit
[08:58] <Curly_Q> Linux drivers are not Windows Drivers, and in fact, most manufacturers design hardware to work with Windows as a preferred OS rather than LINUX or UNIX or any other OS.
[08:58] <jimbeam12> yes pls
[08:58] <jimbeam12> ive been trying i cant seem to find
[08:58] <jimbeam12> iam on live cd
[08:58] <indus> jimbeam12: why do you want to edit it
[08:58] <Aayush> jimbeam12, could u be more specific please
[08:58] <jimbeam12> hey indus wsup bro
[08:59] <indus> jimbeam12: hello
[08:59] <jimbeam12> man this startup manage has really stuffed things up for me..
[08:59] <jimbeam12> not using it again..
[08:59] <Balsaq> when ienter xubuntu it lets me right in, when i enter ubuntu it makes me 1st go into proxy and then tells me i can go to ubuntu? anyone know why?
[08:59] <jimbeam12> ok indus ive tried  sudo mount -t ext3/dev/sda5/mnt
[09:00] <jimbeam12> then tried to gksudo gedit /mnt/boot/menu.list
[09:00] <indus> jimbeam12: what are you trying to do,
[09:00] <jimbeam12> and i get an empty list
[09:00] <indus> jimbeam12: its /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:00] <jimbeam12> yes i cant get to it
[09:00] <indus> jimbeam12: aah live cd sorry
[09:00] <indus> jimbeam12: its menu.lst
[09:00] <jimbeam12> yes
[09:00] <indus> jimbeam12: not list
[09:01] <jimbeam12> iam using my laptop now inds
[09:01] <jimbeam12> indus
[09:01] <indus> jimbeam12: i have no idea what you are trying to do
[09:01] <Aayush> does any one know how to use halevt to auto mount pendrive in text mode
[09:01] <jimbeam12> indus i want to get to my menu.lst to edit so i can boot ..
[09:02] <indus> jimbeam12: why cant you boot? did you change something?
[09:02] <jimbeam12> i have dual boot..one is ubuntu one is  windows..the unbuntu link is broken
[09:02] <jimbeam12> yes startup manage done something..
[09:02] <indus> jimbeam12: why whats the error
[09:02] <jimbeam12> error: 11
[09:02] <indus> jimbeam12: the full error please
[09:03] <indus> jimbeam12: is it a grub error or something else
[09:03] <jimbeam12> error:inrecognized string
[09:04] <Jyxt> error 11 is a grub error...unrecognized string i believe
[09:04] <jimbeam12> error 11: unrecognized string indus
[09:04] <indus> jimbeam12: aer you the same guy wrec ffrom yesterday?
[09:04] <Jyxt> but grub doesnt really give useful info when it dumps an error...just says error ##: description of error
[09:04] <jimbeam12> hmm??
[09:04] <Jyxt> jimbeam12: did you install ubuntu first or windows first?
[09:04] <techie> i need help making a dual head xorg.conf for my ATI card, no matter how i do it it always fails to load properly and brings up a xorg screen at boot
[09:05] <indus> jimbeam12: please use the backup menu.lst and rename it
[09:05] <constantine__> how do I know if my monitor (hp 2159m) is compatible with ibex?
[09:05] <jimbeam12> how do i retrieve it
[09:05] <Aayush> does any one know how to use halevt to auto mount pendrive in text mode
[09:05] <jimbeam12> how do i get there
[09:05] <indus> jimbeam12: where have you mounted the linux partition?
[09:05] <Jyxt> indus: dont you mean the boot partition
[09:05] <jimbeam12> windows first indus
[09:06] <Jyxt> jimbeam12: well menu.lst is obviously not empty...otherwise grub would be complaining alot more
[09:06] <jimbeam12> ok what now..indus
[09:07] <jimbeam12> sudo mount
[09:08] <jimbeam12> sda5 linux
[09:08] <se7vn> jimbeam12 : when grub pops up on start, Ubuntu and Windows are the two listed?
[09:08] <jimbeam12> brb
[09:08] <techie> i need help making a dual head xorg.conf for my ATI card, no matter how i do it it always fails to load properly and brings up a xorg screen at boot
[09:08] <jimbeam12> yes there are
[09:09] <se7vn> And when you run Ubuntu off the list, it gives you the error?
[09:09] <jimbeam12> yes
[09:10] <se7vn> Have you installed any other versions of linux on your system in the past?
[09:10] <jimbeam12> nope
[09:10] <jimbeam12> brb
[09:10] <piratex> alguem acordado aeh ?
[09:10] <neil_d> I am having trouble with setting a no password ssh login on my ubuntu server.  I generated a rsa key, copied it onto the server and appended this to the authorized_keys file but still no go.  what am I doing wrong?
[09:10] <MenZa> !pt | piratex
[09:11] <jimbeam12> ok back
[09:11] <asdfg12qw3> Hello,
[09:11] <piratex> sorry :P
[09:11] <Jyxt> neil_d: is the server setup to use keys?
[09:11] <salvo> nathan never
[09:11] <Jyxt> neil_d: whats the exact error your getting when trying to connect with a key
[09:12] <neil_d> Jyxt: I think so... I get asked for the password.
[09:12] <jimbeam12> ok ive tried sudo mount -t et3 /dev/sda5/mnt
[09:12] <Jyxt> neil_d: with the key you shouldnt be asked
[09:12] <Jyxt> did you chmod the local key?
[09:12] <neil_d> Jyxt: I know
[09:12] <Jyxt> chmod 400 .ssh/id_rsa
[09:13] <neil_d> Jyxt: done (on the client) no change!
[09:15] <se7vn> jimbeam12 : I was going to suggest, when I first updated the kernel on ubuntu and screwed up my menu.lst file, come to find out 2 days later, I was editing 1 of 2 menu.lst's
[09:15] <neil_d> Jyxt: the /etc/ssh/sshd_config has "PubkeyAuthentication yes"
[09:15] <se7vn> if they're listed in grub, there's a menu.lst around with that info in it
[09:15] <Jyxt> neil_d: and on your server /etc/ssh/sshd_config you have pubkeyauthentication yes
[09:15] <asdfg12qw3> Test
[09:16] <jimbeam12> ok what the solution then .
[09:16] <neil_d> Jyxt: snap!!
[09:16] <jimbeam12> if i cant get to my menu.lst
[09:16] <Jyxt> neil_d: it works?
[09:17] <neil_d> Jyxt: no,, still asks for the password!
[09:17] <Jyxt> neil_d: did you change anything in the sshd_config? if so you should restart ssh
[09:17] <Jyxt> though i think by default pubkeyauth is on
[09:17] <salvo> aiutooooo
[09:17] <AfC> Do we have to do anything special to get Karmic to recognize encrypted [external device] partitions? On Gentoo with GNOME 2.26 the auto mounter did the LUKS mapping automatically and then a dialog came up prompting for passphrase. Am I missing something obvious to make this work on Ubuntu?
[09:17] <se7vn> what's in the /boot/grub directory of your distro partition?
[09:18] <neil_d> Jyxt: no I didn't.. but I restarted it anyway.. still asks for a password.
[09:18] <ubu_nub> th0ger: purged and reinstalled apt using dpkg  worked. thx.
[09:18] <Jyxt> neil_d: and your /home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys2 file shows a line like
[09:18] <DJones> AfC: Support for Karmic is in #ubuntu+1, you're more likely to get a response in that channel than in here
[09:18] <Jyxt> ssh-rsa BUNCHOFRANDOMCHARACTERS user@domain
[09:18] <techie> i need help making a dual head xorg.conf for my ATI card, no matter how i do it it always fails to load properly and brings up a xorg screen at boot
[09:18] <AfC> DJones: ah. Thanks
[09:19] <th0ger> ubu_nub: cool
[09:19] <Jyxt> neil_d: well more like ssh-rsa BUNCHOFRANDOMCHARACTERS== user@domain
[09:19] <sagaci> changing a file chmod 333, is that any different from 777
[09:19] <neil_d> Jyxt: yes!  I just double checked the pub key is in the file.
[09:20] <Jyxt> sagaci: 777 gives user, group, world...read, write, execute permission
[09:20] <Jyxt> sagaci: 333 gives only write and execute
[09:20] <Jyxt> so with 333 nobody...not user, group or world...can read the file
[09:20] <roflparrot> sagaci,  those numbers are octal sums
[09:20] <roflparrot> each corresponds to a unique config
[09:20] <Jyxt> neil_d: is it on one line?
[09:21] <sagaci> Jyxt: but they can write to it, right?
[09:21] <Jyxt> sagaci: with 333 yes
[09:21] <Jyxt> anyone can write to it and execute it
[09:21] <sagaci> Jyxt: just cannot read it directly
[09:21] <neil_d> Jyxt: yes
[09:21] <Jyxt> sagaci: or indirectly i would think
[09:22] <jimbeam12> anyone?
[09:22] <Jyxt> neil_d: maybe the key is borked?
[09:22] <th0ger> neil_d: Do you have DenyUsers in sshd_config?
[09:22] <davidson_1971>  i want to install Windows Xp beside Ubuntu jaunty how?
[09:23] <sagaci> ty
[09:23] <DJones> !dualboot | davidson_1971
[09:23] <neil_d> th0ger: no
[09:23] <neil_d> Jyxt: the key was generated just a few minutes ago.
[09:24] <davidson_1971> Sorry. I am using a PC
[09:24] <Jyxt> neil_d: heres a nice link on it...http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/152
[09:24] <DJones> davidson_1971: Do you have windows or ubuntu installed already?
[09:24] <davidson_1971> I have ubutnu installed already
[09:24] <Jyxt> neil_d: well if you have the key, and the server has it listed in authorized_keys2
[09:24] <davidson_1971> ie jaunty
[09:25] <Jyxt> then its gotta be something with the sshd_config
[09:25] <DJones> davidson_1971: Is that on the whole drive, or is there plenty of unpartitioned space on the drive, or did you give Ubuntu the whole drive when you installed
[09:25] <Jyxt> but only 2 options really matter...the pubkeyauthentication...and rsaauthentication...though my rsaauthentication says no and i use pure key entry...no passwords at all
[09:25] <davidson_1971> I am a new bie. Yes, I gave the whole HDD I suppose
[09:27] <se7vn> jimbeam : so you have files in /boot  : and in /boot/grub   : just nothing in menu.lst ?
[09:27] <^Zaz> how would I go about upgrading irssi to 0.8.14? that version has not been added to the package manager.
[09:28] <se7vn> guess not :-)
[09:28] <Jyxt> jimmy51_: you wouldnt happen to have a file called /boot/grub/grub.conf would you?
[09:28] <cryptopsy> Hi I know this off topic but can someone tell me what the pharmacy is called in ontario canada? I forgot the name and I'm not feeling well.
[09:29] <davidson_1971> Hello
[09:29] <Jyxt> cryptopsy: google?
[09:29] <neil_d> Jyxt: I used the ssh-copy-id command and it fixed things up for me... its working now.
[09:29] <cryptopsy> Jyxt: Can't find it
[09:29] <Jyxt> neil_d: nice
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:29] <cryptopsy> Jyxt: Its a 3 letter name I think
[09:29] <th0ger> cryptopsy: translate.google.com
[09:29] <Jyxt> neil_d: in sshd_config you might want to turn permitrootlogin to no
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> is there a way to make a command not need sudo
[09:29] <cryptopsy> th0ger: What am i supposed to translate
[09:29] <DJones> davidson_1971: You'll need to use an ubuntu live cd to boot up and then use gparted to free up some space on your drive, then install windows into the free space, after that, you'll need to reconfigure grub so that it gives you access to ubuntu and windows. Have a look at this web page, its got instructions on how install windows after you've installed ubuntu about half way down the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot?action=show&re
[09:29] <cryptopsy> th0ger: I nee the store name
[09:29] <Jyxt> and maybe change logingracetime to 1m and maxauthtries to 3
[09:30] <Jyxt> neil_d: if you want to disable passwords entirely (so only keys work)
[09:30] <Jyxt> neil_d: change passwordauthentication to no...and challengeresponseauthentication to no
[09:30] <davidson_1971> thanks, DJones, I will give it a try
[09:30] <cryptopsy> I need the place that sells cough syrup
[09:30] <Jyxt> that way if someone connects and they dont have a key...they get dropped right away
[09:30] <sprink> I'm trying to install the android plugins in eclipse, has anyone done that in 9.04?
[09:30] <DJones> davidson_1971: If you're not sure of anything, ask in the channel, somebody should be around to help
[09:31] <davidson_1971> thanks.
[09:31] <neil_d> Jyxt: I don't want that!  I sometimes need to be able to use the password login.
[09:31] <Jyxt> sprink: try #android
[09:31] <sprink> Jyxt: Well I think it's a ubuntu issue I am having
[09:32] <Jyxt> neil_d: understood...at the very least disable root logins though
[09:32] <sprink> there are plenty of guides on setting up the android plugin, but it seems the eclipse package that comes with 9.04 is so stripped down every single plugin I try to isntall requires a different one and it's like a endless loop of crap
[09:34] <Jyxt> sprink: i dont know anything about it really...i do know theres an ubuntu guide to it, remember reading that the default eclipse wont work
[09:34] <Jyxt> default eclipse for ubuntu is fairly old...they tell you to grab a newer version of eclipse
[09:35] <sprink> Jyxt: Hmm yeah that sounds right. I am using some guides that are not specifically for ubuntu, but I think you are right
[09:35] <neil_d> Jyxt: root does not have a password so a password login on root should be impossible.
[09:36] <neil_d> Jyxt: going to be adding a ufw firewall soon so that will protect it some more.
[09:37] <neil_d> Jyxt: and the server isn't visible to the internet.
[09:39] <sprink> Jyxt: got it resolved. I feel like a idiot now
[09:39] <neil_d> Now I have something really strange... when I login to the server from a local terminal (i.e. via the keyboard) it takes 30 or more seconds to verify the password... why?  can this be fixed?
[09:39] <sprink> the android plugin required eclipse 3.3 or higher and eclipse in the repo is 3.2
[09:39] <sprink> thanks
[09:44] <vadviktor> hi guys! Anyone knows if mplayer can play flac files?
[09:47] <jimbeam12> hey backk
[09:47] <jimbeam12> thx indus
[09:49] <rey753> hi.... Ubunteros
[09:49] <rey753> saludando desde mi Ubuntu 9.10 corriendo al full en una Vaio vgn c-240fe
[09:50] <vega> rey753: this channel is in english
[09:51] <jimbeam12> hey vega wsup
[09:51] <vadviktor> Anyone knows if mplayer can play flac files?
[09:51] <vega> rey753: and 9.10 is not supported yet
[09:51] <aprilhare> hello. i want to download a realmedia stream however I am yet to find a satisfactory way to do so. my url is http://webcast.un.org/ramgen/ondemand/ga/64/2009/ga090923am1.rm?start=01:52:40&end=03:28:40 - any suggestions?
[09:51] <WzCocoon> I just reinstalled 9.04 and now GDM does not work any idea where can I look for help
[09:51] <rey753> yo tengo la final ...
[09:51] <rey753> no veta
[09:51] <rey753> beta
[09:52] <rey753> jijij :P
[09:52] <ackley> WzCocoon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:52] <ackley> WzCocoon: I haven't had to use that command in a very long time so hopefully it still works
[09:53] <DJones> !es | rey753
[09:53] <stoki> is anyone from poland ??
[09:53] <rey753> veo el link en mplayer
[09:53] <rey753>  http://webcast.un.org/ramgen/ondemand/ga/64/2009/ga090923am1.rm?start=01:52:40&end=03:28:40
[09:53] <aprilhare> yes. but whether they are in channel or not I cannot say
[09:53] <ackley> zing!
[09:54] <aprilhare> rey753: i'll try it with mplayer (i think thats what you meant)
[09:54] <stoki> have you know ubuntu chanel poland name ??
[09:54] <vega> !pl | stoki
[09:54] <DJones> !pl | stoki If you're looking for help in Polish, this should help
[09:54] <ackley> #ubuntu-pl?
[09:54] <stoki> thanx
[09:55] <stoki> my english is poor byt i try
[09:55] <stoki> have you know any software for linux like "photo dvd maker" ??
[09:56] <Kingtiger01> its sad... my great-grandparents were polish and i dont know how to speak any of it...
[09:57] <Nearsight> Hi #ubuntu, I've got a question regarding DNS in Ubuntu 8.04... I'm trying to set up a CNAME record for google apps for private domains, does anybody know a decent howto or has some hints for me?
[09:57] <Hu_> hi
[09:57] <Hu_> Pc crashes whilst updating to 9.10 aplha 6
[09:57] <Nearsight> googles docs aren't very helpful here, and the cname command in ubuntu does something completely different, so I'm a little bit stuck here
[09:58] <th0ger> Hu_: errors?
[09:58] <Gnea> Nearsight: that's a bit focused on bind, which takes care of dns in #bind. there are a lot of non-ubuntu based sites with documentation on the subject, such as at www.tldp.org
[09:59] <Nearsight> Gnea: awesome, I'll have a look, thx :)
[09:59] <Hu_> th0ger: Just crashed and i had to do a fresh reinstall of 9.04
[09:59] <Gnea> Nearsight: also, CNAME is the same on any platform/distribution
[10:00] <Nearsight> Gnea: yeah, but apperently there is a command 'cname' which hasn't anything to do with dns... that makes googling for that topic somewhat problematic
[10:00] <vega> Hu_: this channel does NOT support 9.10, ubuntu+1 is for that
[10:00] <th0ger> Hu_: dont expect help from anyone if you dont ask a question.
[10:01] <Gnea> Nearsight: really? I've never seen that
[10:01] <Gnea> !info cname
[10:01] <Gnea> huh
[10:01] <mcmlxxi> how do I type in degree sign?
[10:02] <Nearsight> Gnea: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/jaunty/man8/cname.8.html
[10:02] <Gnea> Nearsight: most people don't use cfs
[10:03] <Nearsight> Gnea: probably.. i can't even imagine what it might be used for
[10:03] <Nearsight> Gnea: anyway, thx for the pointer, I'll go and have a look there
[10:03] <Gnea> Nearsight: and the search I performed didn't have that result... kept it simple:  "ubuntu dns cname"
[10:03] <lolek> re ...
[10:03] <Gnea> Nearsight: well, I'm sure you can ;)
[10:04] <lolek> uhm, guys.. where i should post problems with bluetooth stack a2dp profile ... ?
[10:04]  * mekanik waves... thanks for the information :)
[10:04] <lolek> i mean there is something wrong with the alsa bluetooth
[10:04] <Gnea> !bug | lolek
[10:04] <sy1> hello
[10:04] <sy1> a bluetooth stack on ubuntu
[10:04] <jdv> I have a dodgy disk / partition which according to testdisk utility cannot be recovered, do I have any options or must I format?
[10:05] <sy1> can it work with a nokia handphone
[10:05] <lolek> ubottu: well ok.. but firstlky i wanted to check this out with somebody if maybe this is poroblem only with my hardware... or.. it's ubuntu problem
[10:05] <Gnea> sy1: does the nokia handphone support bluetooth?
[10:05] <sy1> jdv is that harddisk old ?
[10:05] <jdv> sy1 about 3 years
[10:05] <sy1> yes the nokia have bt
[10:05] <sy1> jdv what power supply you using ?
[10:06] <Gnea> lolek: best to just search launchpad and see if it's been reported - also check ubuntuforums.org
[10:06] <jdv> sy1 UPS in between the computer and the wall socket in thailand
[10:06] <lolek> Gnea: well i didn't find out any...
[10:06] <Gnea> lolek: then file :)
[10:06] <sy1> sorry JDV what brand of power supply ?
[10:06] <Hu_> olawdy is dat sum incurgency
[10:06] <lolek> Gnea: well ok, there are some.. about connection problem.. but ok, i know how to connect manually so it's not the point.. ;)
[10:06] <jdv> sy1 what brand.. sorry not sure what you mean?
[10:07] <sy1> do you see a sticker of a brand name on the power supply ?
[10:07] <Gnea> lolek: just follow the instructions to report the bug and it will be investigated
[10:07] <lolek> Gnea: well ok
[10:07] <sy1> jdv did you buy the power supply with the casing ?
[10:07] <jdv> sy1 MAXtech ups
[10:07] <jdv> no the ups I got separately in bangkok
[10:08] <jdv> computer is from dell UK
[10:08] <sy1> is the fan inside the computer very noisy ?
[10:08] <daurnimator1> hi
[10:08] <tiglionabbit> why do I still get BADSIG errors with synaptic?
[10:08] <daurnimator1> booting from the livecd: I've got a sata hdd that won't work
[10:08] <jdv> sy1 never used UPS in the UK, but power outages in bangkok are the norm
[10:09] <jdv> sy1 no very silent but it is hot and I dont run the aircon most days, just a fan
[10:09] <jdv> sy1 well not very silent, I can hear it, but not loud
[10:09] <daurnimator1> http://www.pastey.net/125660
[10:09] <daurnimator1> anyone able to help?
[10:10] <Gnea> daurnimator: try another sata cable
[10:10] <daurnimator> I'm pretty sure its the hdd
[10:10] <daurnimator> I think its dead
[10:10] <daurnimator> but anything I can do to try and salvage data on it?
[10:10] <Gnea> daurnimator: so you tried another cable?
[10:11] <daurnimator> Gnea: cable is fine
[10:11] <Gnea> daurnimator: how can you be sure?
[10:11] <daurnimator> cause the hdd didn't work in my other computer either, and other hdds work with that cable
[10:12] <Gnea> daurnimator: ah, okay. uhm, you could try testdisk to recover data on it.
[10:12] <Gnea> holy mother of netsplits, batman!
[10:14] <meatbun> maaaaaaaaaaaammiiiiiiiiiiiii
[10:15] <bubill331> - J
[10:15] <se7vn> what was that all about?
[10:15] <morpheuss> what the hell just happened here
[10:15] <mcmlxxi> netsplit
[10:15] <se7vn> lol
[10:15] <lolek> split...
[10:16] <DJones> !netsplit
[10:16] <Kingtiger01> what happened?
[10:16] <lolek> :)
[10:16] <techie> farmer split
[10:16] <Flannel> We're having a netsplit.  Just sit tight and enjoy the ride.
[10:16] <bubill331> what's net split?
[10:16] <Kingtiger01> Verne went down..
[10:16] <Flannel> bubill331: It's when two IRC servers lose connection to each other
[10:16] <Gnea> bubill331: see what ubottu just said
[10:16] <Kingtiger01> i had to reconnect to niven
[10:16] <lolek> bubill331: read ^^
[10:16] <daurnimator> anyway, anyone got advice for reading a bung hdd?
[10:17] <Gnea> daurnimator: as I suggested, testdisk might be able to recover some data
[10:17]  * daurnimator didn't get that msg
[10:17] <bubill331> WOW i see
[10:17] <Gnea> yeah, silly netsplit lol
[10:18] <Knewserver> test
[10:18] <bubill331> netsplit is very spectacular
[10:18] <bubill331> haha
[10:18] <Kingtiger01> hmm... strange
[10:18] <meatbun> how to tell if ubuntu have vpn server services installed or running?
[10:19] <Gnea> meatbun: you could see what services are running on certain ports, also what packages are installed
[10:20] <meatbun> Gnea, ?
[10:20] <meatbun> netstate -n?
[10:20] <Gnea> meatbun: netstat -pan
[10:21] <morpheuss> meatbun, port scan localhost then see it
[10:21] <meatbun> Gnea, what am i looking for? for that output?
[10:21] <Gnea> meatbun: whatever looks like vpn
[10:22] <Nachturnal> Has anyone here ever used Hiveboard in Ubuntu?
[10:22] <kingtiger_verne>  Hi all.  It seems one of our sponsors has connectivity problems, causing around 6,000 users to disconnect.  We're investigating, sorry for the noise and thanks for using freenode!
[10:22] <meatbun> (No info could be read for "-p": geteuid()=552 but you should be root.)
[10:22] <Kingtiger01> oops...
[10:22] <jdv> I have a dodgy disk / partition which according to testdisk utility cannot be recovered, do I have any options or must I format?
[10:22] <daurnimator> Gnea: bah, testdisk can't work cause the disk isn't in /dev
[10:22] <Kingtiger01> " Hi all.  It seems one of our sponsors has connectivity problems, causing around 6,000 users to disconnect.  We're investigating, sorry for the noise and thanks for using freenode!" is in server...
[10:23] <meatbun> morpheuss, no more port scan command inside ssh
[10:23] <Gnea> !netsplit | Kingtiger01
[10:23] <BuGo_laptop> howto open firefox on display 0 via ssh?
[10:24] <BuGo_laptop> i know that command has DISLPAY option but i do not remember how it works
[10:24] <Kingtiger01> i know...
[10:24] <Gnea> Kingtiger01: then why did you paste that?
[10:25] <ezkandar> hg
[10:25] <Nachturnal> Nobody here has any experience using Hiveboard in Ubuntu?
[10:25] <Kingtiger01> i used to have to Hybrid-IRCD servers... i just spotted the message on verne and not niven. so imo i was sure everyone got it and i accidently double posted...
[10:26] <mcmlxxi> how do I type in degree sign on a laptop?
[10:26] <Gnea> Kingtiger01: k, please save those messages for #freenode as it's offtopic here
[10:26] <meatbun> Gnea, port scan shows 34746 open. but __> root# netstat -a| grep -i "3473" ; shows nothing
[10:26] <meatbun> Gnea, that's port scan on localhost
[10:26] <Gnea> meatbun: that's because you're not using -n
[10:27] <xim_> my sound has stopped working after my ubuntu crashed and i had to cut the power.  is there a way to reinstall the sound drivers?
[10:27] <meatbun> Gnea, still nothing with -n
[10:27] <Gnea> meatbun: also, 3473 != 34736
[10:27] <Gnea> meatbun: if you are not precise, it will fail.
[10:28] <meatbun> Gnea, grep don't need the whole thing. less specific is better for grep
[10:28] <meatbun> .......
[10:28] <meatbun> Gnea, grep don't need the whole thing. less specific is better for grep
[10:28] <se7vn> ahhh
[10:28] <Gnea> meatbun: grep needs specific information.
[10:28] <Gnea> meatbun: no, you are incorrect.
[10:28] <meatbun> netstat -n| grep -i "34736"
[10:28] <meatbun> still nothing
[10:29] <Gnea> meatbun: netstat -pan | grep 34736
[10:29] <Nachturnal> quit
[10:29] <meatbun> Gnea,  netstat -pan | grep 34736  ; shows nothing
[10:29]  * Gnea notes that -i is useless with numbers
[10:29] <Gnea> meatbun: perhaps that wasn't it then
[10:29] <xim_> when I do lspci | grep audio, i get no result, my sound was working before ubuntu crashed earlier, also I think it might have run some updates or something...
[10:30] <brokenice> quite
[10:30] <brokenice> quit
[10:30] <bubill331> anbody know some java channel of irc ?
[10:30] <Jyxt> bubill331: try #java
[10:30] <Jyxt> ?
[10:30] <meatbun> Gnea, i c.  i click on 'scan' again. port is gone. but new ports appeared. i click 'scan' some more and random ports came out.
[10:31] <brokenice> try #java
[10:31] <Jyxt> freenode has lots of tech related channels, just try #whatever you'd be surprised
[10:31] <pontus21> hi everyone
[10:31] <indus> hi pontus21
[10:31] <pontus21> i have a problem with gnome
[10:31] <pontus21> my taskbar is locked
[10:31] <Gnea> meatbun: try using top and see if something starts/stops
[10:31] <pontus21> and i don't know how to unlock it
[10:32] <indus> pontus21: right click and check unlock
[10:32] <pontus21> ^^ not so easy !
[10:32] <indus> pontus21: remove it then and make a new one
[10:32] <pontus21> when i right click, i got only 2 options : help and about
[10:32] <daurnimator1> so, anyone got ideas on how to get the hdd to show up in /dev
[10:32] <indus> pontus21: but i do remember it happened to me once
[10:33] <indus> pontus21: can i see a screenshot
[10:33] <pontus21> I can't remove it, it's the bar with "system", shortcuts, ...
[10:33] <pontus21> sure
[10:33] <meatbun> Gnea, i dont' see anything. i think it's just my internet ports talking to router
[10:34] <meatbun> my eth0 talking to router
[10:34] <pontus21> oh ... I can't do a screenshot
[10:34] <Gnea> meatbun: could be
[10:34] <pontus21> when right click is activated on the bar, the button screenshot doesn't do anything
[10:35] <Kingtiger01> whats a good File Recovery program...
[10:35] <Gnea> !info testdisk
[10:35] <Kingtiger01> obviously....
[10:35] <Kingtiger01> on talking another...
[10:35] <indus> pontus21: prntscren?i
[10:35] <Gnea> Kingtiger01: pardon?
[10:36] <pontus21> indus:  yes
[10:37] <Kingtiger01> Gnea: i already use Testdisk, been usiing it for years. JDV has a problem with bad sectors and im trying to think of app for individual file recovery, not partition recovery.
[10:37] <daurnimator1> Gnea: I ran testdisk, but it does not find the drive.
[10:37] <Nachturnal> f
[10:37] <daurnimator1> oh wait, that wasnm't for me :P
[10:38] <daurnimator1> Kingtiger01: I once used a prog called ontrack data recovery that did that
[10:38] <indus> pontus21: yes
[10:38] <indus> pontus21: what \
[10:38] <Gnea> Kingtiger01: ah, well I guess it depends on how important they are
[10:39] <pontus21> indus: ??
[10:39] <indus> pontus21: screenshot?
[10:39] <Gnea> Kingtiger01: if I type:  apt-cache search file recover     I get a nice list of possibilities - other than testdisk and foremost, haven't had a need for anything else
[10:39] <boscop> what is the executable name of system monitor?
[10:40] <Gnea> boscop: gnome-system-monitor
[10:40] <pontus21> I can't do a screenshot !
[10:40] <Gnea> pontus21: why not?
[10:40] <pontus21> when right click is activated on the bar, the button screenshot doesn't do anything
[10:40] <boscop> Gnea: thanks!
[10:41] <Gnea> pontus21: can you run the gimp?
[10:41] <Gnea> boscop: cheers
[10:41] <pontus21> yes
[10:41] <pontus21> i do
[10:41] <Gnea> pontus21: then you can file->acquire->screenshot
[10:42] <indus> Gnea: you aare so intelligent
[10:42] <indus> :)
[10:42] <Gnea> that's a lie ;)
[10:42] <Kingtiger01> daurnimator1: im aware of the Dos/Windows based Apps. ive used them/own them.  but im looking for JDV, not myself..
[10:42] <indus> Gnea: any idea why alt-printscn wont work? doesnt for me
[10:42] <Gnea> indus: nope
[10:42] <Nachturnal> Could someone help me figure out how to install Hiveboard from the .tar.bz2 file? I've extracted it, but there's no make or ./configure compatability
[10:42] <indus> !
[10:43] <pontus21> it's ok
[10:43] <pontus21> i upload it
[10:43] <Gnea> indus: maybe the keybind was redone... that'd be about it
[10:43] <indus> Nachturnal: read the 'readme'
[10:43] <indus> Gnea: hmm ya probably
[10:43] <Kingtiger01> Gnea: Ohh yes, make me do all the hard work :D. lol, i know i just didnt want to "Really" have to get on my linux-box at the moment
[10:43] <jrib> Nachturnal: no README or INSTALL file or documentation on its homepage?
[10:43] <pirx> hi! are there any nice GUI applications for partitioning/mounting in ubuntu?
[10:43] <indus> pirx: of course its called gparted
[10:43] <Tarthen> pirx: GParted
[10:43] <indus> !gparted | pirx
[10:43] <Gnea> Kingtiger01: well, that's what it's all about! did you honestly think that we're here to do the work for you? ;)
[10:44] <Tarthen> pirx: For mounting at bootup, pysdm is good.
[10:44] <Nachturnal> I read the readme, it basically says that it contains the files necessary to deploy it
[10:44] <pontus21> ok, indus : here's the screenshot : http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7739/screenshotproblemtaskba.png
[10:44] <jrib> Nachturnal: yeah, the website documentation says something similar... so do that...
[10:44] <indus> pontus21: i see my name inside the screenshot :)
[10:44] <indus> thanks
[10:45] <pirx> indus, Tarthen: but i am not able to mount partitions in gparted, right?
[10:45] <Kingtiger01> Gnea: i can hope and dream... cant i? lol. i kow, remember i been contributing on the forums since Woody/Hardy
[10:45] <indus> pontus21: can you log in as a different user and check the panel> if yes, its some user config issue
[10:45] <pontus21> yes, i can
[10:45] <Nachturnal> wow somehow I overlooked the ultra quick server installation link. thanks for pointing me back to the site.
[10:45] <Tarthen> pirx: Yes, you can. You can right click > mount. But, if you want to mount a partition, rather than make one, psydm works a treat
[10:46] <indus> pontus21: hopefully can be resolved on deleting stuff in the .gnome folder
[10:46] <pontus21> indus: but i will have to go in about 5 minuts
[10:46] <indus> pontus21: go where
[10:46] <pontus21> do you think you'll still be there in around 2h and a half
[10:46] <pontus21> indus: to the swimmingpool ! ^^
[10:46] <Gnea> Kingtiger01: ha, didn't know that - right on
[10:47] <indus> pontus21: ok give me 1 min
[10:47] <pontus21> ok
[10:47] <Kingtiger01> ;) Root-Power is with us... Always...
[10:47] <pontus21> i log out and log in back
[10:47] <Callum_> Okay, so in less than 48 hours I'll be on my way to Japan @_@
[10:47] <Tarthen> Callum_: Go get some cheap hardware :D
[10:48] <Callum_> Tarthen: heh
[10:48] <Callum_> I wish
[10:48] <Tarthen> I could use more hardware
[10:48] <Tarthen> everyone in my class says that 3 computers is too much
[10:48] <Tarthen> bah to them.
[10:49] <lolek> Tarthen: hmmm
[10:49] <TheNEWman> HI, I just installed my new operating system! yahooo!  how do I change my password on my account?
[10:49] <lolek> Tarthen: you mean 3 computers per person ?
[10:49] <jdv> I have a dodgy disk / partition which according to testdisk utility cannot be recovered, do I have any options or must I format?
[10:49] <jrib> TheNEWman: System -> Administration -> Users and Groups is one way
[10:50] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: System > Admin > Users & Groups, click Unlock, enter your current password, go Properties on your account, and use the "Set Password By Hand".
[10:50] <Tarthen> Ding, you're done.
[10:50] <Tarthen> lolek: No, I have 3 PC's, and people say I don't need more
[10:51] <Tarthen> I want more though
[10:51] <pontus21> indus: Ok, with another user, there's no problem
[10:51] <lolek> Tarthen: nah... i have hmmm
[10:51] <TheNEWman> If i am doing root do I need to be in the root account?
[10:51] <lolek> Tarthen: about 6
[10:51] <lolek> :)
[10:52] <TheNEWman> Thanks Tarthen  and jrib, if I need to change the root account, do I need to be logged in to root?
[10:52] <praetorius> good morning 2 all
[10:52] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: Nope
[10:52] <lolek> TheNEWman: no
[10:52] <pontus21> indus: you're still there ?
[10:52] <jrib> !root | TheNEWman
[10:52] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: But you have to let Root to be able to graphically log in f you want that
[10:53] <Tarthen> I find that root > sudo for admin boxes
[10:53] <jrib> Tarthen: heh, that's not true at all...
[10:53] <praetorius> is there any brazilian around???
[10:53] <jrib> !br | praetorius
[10:53] <TheNEWman> Tarthen, I'm confused.  is root secure?  or has it been negated in ubuntu?
[10:53] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: Sudo replaces root, more or less
[10:54] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: Sudo makes you root temporarily
[10:54] <jrib> TheNEWman: use sudo for administrative tasks.  You just don't log in to the root account, you use sudo instead.  ubottu's link explains the details
[10:54] <TheNEWman> So if someone hacks an account on a system the can get control of root.. or do root things?
[10:54] <Tarthen> jrib: So is true. Setting up Squid, tftp and Nagios using sudo is an epic pain
[10:54] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: If they have permissions to use sudo
[10:54] <jrib> Tarthen: sudo -i ...
[10:55] <rafal> hello
[10:55] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: Not everyone can use sudo.
[10:55] <rafal> poland
[10:55] <rafal> jest kto z polski?
[10:55] <TheNEWman> How do I define who can sudo and who cant?
[10:55] <jrib> !pl | rafal
[10:55] <lolek> rafal: tak.. ale pisz po angielsku...
[10:55] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: /etc/sudoers, I think
[10:55] <lolek> raphink: ewentualnie kanal: ubuntu-pl
[10:55] <Gnea> TheNEWman: it's explained on the site
[10:55] <jrib> TheNEWman: users in the « admin » group can sudo by default
[10:55] <babu_> hi
[10:56] <pontus21> indus: ??
[10:56] <TheNEWman> arrrrggg ok,  I will check the site.
[10:56] <TheNEWman> Thanks guys.
[10:56] <dallix> is there a simple way to mount a wubi install to a drive in windows?
[10:56] <administrator> what is the similar to windows command prompt on ubuntu
[10:56] <babu_> hello...........
[10:57] <jrib> !terminal | Guest77858
[10:57] <Vinceman> guys, I installed something and now my camorama won't display my webcam image but guvc will.. do you have any ideas how I can get 'em both working?
[10:57] <Gnea> Guest77858: terminal
[10:57] <jrib> !cli > Guest77858
[10:57] <Gnea> Vinceman: what did you install?
[10:57] <Vinceman> v4l-uvb
[10:57] <raphink> lolek: huh? rozumiem po engliski ;)
[10:57] <TheNEWman> By the way, While I am here, is there a way to connect 5 or 10 monitors and keyboard/mouse combos to a ubuntu box?  I have a coffee shop and this would be a cheap way to add free Internet surfing.
[10:57] <Gnea> Vinceman: you can only use camorama or guvc at one time, not at the same time
[10:57] <babu_> i want xp
[10:58] <lolek> raphink: ??
[10:58] <Jyxt> TheNEWman: you mean multiple monitors/keyboard/mouse per 1 machine?
[10:58] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: Yes... but it'll require a heckload of hacking of xorg.conf
[10:58] <Gnea> babu_: then /join ##windows
[10:58] <babu_> pls give me windows xp
[10:58] <Jyxt> so multiple users can do multiple things off one machine?
[10:58] <Gnea> babu_: no.
[10:58] <Vinceman> Gnea when I shut down camorama guvc still won't run, it asks for v4l2
[10:58] <babu_> why
[10:58] <Tarthen> babu_: No :D
[10:58] <Gnea> !piracy | babu_
[10:58] <TheNEWman> jyxt yes
[10:58] <Tarthen> babu_: We are a Linux chatroom
[10:59] <Tarthen> babu_: XP is Windows
[10:59] <raphink> lolek: you sent me a polish message ;)
[10:59] <Jyxt> TheNEWman: well first you'd need a reasonably powerful machine...and second you should look into virtualization ala vmware or virtualbox
[10:59] <Vinceman> kurva match
[10:59] <Tarthen> babu_: Windows and Linux are two different things.
[10:59] <babu_> i want vlc player
[10:59] <Tarthen> babu_: Google is your friend
[10:59] <lolek> raphink: ah... sorry... there was a guy.. and i didn't checked  just pressed tab and .. irssi completed the nick with yours and..
[10:59] <TheNEWman> tarthen, hacking... O-o... I'm not good at hacking... Remember i'm the guy that didnot know how to change a password.... LOL
[10:59] <lolek> raphink: you understand ;)
[10:59] <Jyxt> babu_: there is vlc for linux
[10:59] <babu_> its ok..
[10:59] <MenZa> babu_: This is a support channel for Ubuntu, a free operating system. Any other topics go in #ubuntu-offtopic. In addition, piracy is NOT ALLOWED in this channel. For  Microsoft Windows support, try ##windows.
[11:00] <babu_> hey what did u say
[11:00] <Gnea> babu_: if you want xp, then please ask for it in ##windows. kthxbai.
[11:00] <TheNEWman> jyxt, why, I have have 10 users logged in to my ubuntu box at the same time.
[11:00] <lolek> raphink: btw  your question was almost good, : rozumiem po angielsku? :)
[11:00] <raphink> lolek: yes I do, no pb ;)
[11:00] <TheNEWman> jyxt, I mean why mess with virtualization.
[11:00] <lolek> raphink: ok, then :)
[11:00] <Jyxt> TheNEWman: yes...but to push a different gui to each user
[11:00] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: Hahaha. I'd just go and get ~10 or so old P4 boxes
[11:00] <babu_> its ok no pb
[11:00] <MenZa> !offtopic | Tarthen
[11:00] <raphink> lolek: yes, I kind of russified it as I typed... not really used to speaking polish ;)
[11:01] <Jyxt> TheNEWman: and you'd want some semblance of security going on..ie you woudlnt want customer A to see what customer B is doing would you
[11:01] <TheNEWman> tarthen... you may be right.
[11:01] <MenZa> raphink, lolek, TheNEWman: The above applies to you, too :)
[11:01] <Gnea> MenZa: don't.
[11:01] <lolek> raphink: well ok.. no problem ;) it's not your native language..;)
[11:01] <Jyxt> TheNEWman: i know you can buy a hardware kvm switch, but i think thats to share multiple machines against a single monitor/mouse/keyboard
[11:01] <Gnea> !pm | MenZa
[11:01] <Jyxt> never heard of someont trying to go the otehr way
[11:01] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: Faster too. 9.04 runs like a dream on my P4, 512MB box at work.
[11:02] <Tarthen> MenZa: I was not OT. We are discussing multiple input devices and screens
[11:02] <TheNEWman> jyxt, tarthen, I read about somone doing it on a bsd box.  I just assumed it could be done in linux.
[11:03] <lolek> TheNEWman: l... i meet a guys.. about 3 years ago.. he did what you want to do...
[11:03] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: Hmm. It's possible, I know that
[11:03] <lolek> TheNEWman: he made it in linux.. but he has some problems...  but i don't remember who was that.. but..
[11:03] <raphink> MenZa: no pb ;)
[11:03] <TheNEWman> loek... three years ago.. wow, then it must be easer today.
[11:03] <Gnea> MenZa: the point is, it's actually sticking to the topic of what hardware ubuntu will run on, which is quite on-topic.
[11:03] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: But performance running 10 X screens would be appalling
[11:03] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: And not really. XFree86 is deprecated now, isn't it?
[11:04] <Tarthen> And XOrg.conf is *kind of*
[11:04] <lolek> TheNEWman: but, i think there is no problems... you need to configure properly the xorg.conf file.. and that's all
[11:04] <Jyxt> Tarthen: but xorg replaced it...same thing really
[11:04] <TheNEWman> tarthen, perhaps 8 users with a lowend quad core or two dual core chips.
[11:04] <kubanc> anybody knows where to look what gnome version am i using ?
[11:04] <babu_> hi ubunutu
[11:04] <Jyxt> TheNEWman: lol, you had a hadr time changing your password and your undertaking this?
[11:04] <Tarthen> kubanc: System > About Gnome
[11:04] <babu_> sorry ..hi ubuntu
[11:05] <Gnea> !hi | babu_
[11:05] <TheNEWman> LOL  NO, will ring in an expert.  :-)  me ignorant, not stupid.
[11:05] <TheNEWman> thanks lolek
[11:05] <babu_> what is oing on
[11:05] <lolek> TheNEWman: no problem ;)
[11:05] <Jyxt> TheNEWman: outside of the processor to handle whatever workload they are doing...you'd need to invest in some decent gfx cards
[11:05] <lolek> TheNEWman: just wanted to say.. that it's possible..
[11:05] <babu_> what is going on
[11:05] <pirx> Tarthen: weird, i have no "mount" when right clicking:)
[11:05] <Tarthen> TheNEWman: TBH, multiple boxes would be better.
[11:06] <Tarthen> pirx: Lemme check
[11:06] <lolek> TheNEWman: but... i think there is an easier way to do that
[11:06] <TheNEWman> jyxt, I have some exp with multiple monitors, you really don't need much. a basic card now is fast enough.  20 bucks each.
[11:06] <lolek> TheNEWman: you need one extra powerfull machine...
[11:06] <Gnea> ikonia: got a moment?
[11:06] <ikonia> Gnea: sure
[11:06] <lolek> TheNEWman: then buy asmany terminals as you need, and make virtual desktop connections to the powerfull machine
[11:06] <TheNEWman> I am sure you could do it with a dual core... even a lower end one.  but 4 cores would be better.
[11:06] <Tarthen> pirx: Oh! If you go into Nautilus, you can mount from that
[11:06] <Jyxt> TheNEWman: probably with like 4 gfx cards, cards with dual outs...one monitor per user then just configure the xorg.conf to run multiple monitors and multilple cards...then you'd have to go thru and disable each monitor from changing to another monitor and all that stuf
[11:06] <Gnea> ikonia: pm?
[11:07] <Jyxt> probably be *much* easier to just run multiple machines
[11:07] <ikonia> Gnea: of course
[11:07] <indus> babu_: what is the problem
[11:07] <lolek> TheNEWman: pm...
[11:07] <TheNEWman> jyxt yep, that is probably right.  I'm a gonna google.  I am sure there must be someone out there that has done it and published how.
[11:08] <babu_> nsch nkhxc,mlk lkkhSI90I;KUKJCHJ
[11:09] <Jyxt> TheNEWman: TheNEWman http://www.computing.net/answers/networking/one-computer-multiple-users/30713.html
[11:09] <DJones> babu_: Please don't do that
[11:09] <MenZa> babu_: Please don't flood. This is a fairly busy channel, and a line like that only clutters the channel :)
[11:09] <Jyxt> first hit from google with search terms "linux multiple users monitors one machine"
[11:09] <alokito> my mouse cursor isn't changing in nautilus and the desktop
[11:09] <TheNEWman> jyxt, YOU DA MAN!! thanks.
[11:09] <babu_> ya i got it
[11:09] <indus> ,lm
[11:10] <indus> p]k';;;;,mmmmmmmmmmp';;;;;;;;;;;;;;
[11:10] <erUSUL> indus: ?
[11:10] <indus> erUSUL: nothing
[11:10] <Jyxt> TheNEWman: last post in that link, links to a site called userful...apprantly they sell a device that does exactly what you want
[11:10] <erUSUL> indus: ok :)
[11:10] <indus> erUSUL: a little hyperactive nerves
[11:12] <WhiteCrow1> HI guys , i need to lock file and folder's and set password on folder's ? PLZ help me (i can speak EN very will but understand a little)
[11:12]  * indus needs tea
[11:12] <Jyxt> TheNEWman: apparantly a howto for doing a 6 head workstation http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html
[11:12] <MenZa> WhiteCrow1: What is your native language?
[11:13] <zebastian> what's better fedora or ubuntu?
[11:13] <jussi01> !best | zebastian
[11:13] <WhiteCrow1> MenZa: i speak persian and i know chanal #ubuntu.ir but this chanal not very good
[11:13] <Jyxt> zebastian: thats like asking whats better...mercedes or bmw
[11:13] <MenZa> zebastian: A matter of preference. Try asking BestBot in #ubuntu-bots what he thinks.
[11:13] <Jyxt> it depends on what your using it for...and above all personal tastes
[11:13] <MenZa> WhiteCrow1: Alright - hopefully someone will be able to help anyway :)
[11:14] <zebastian> why would someone prefer fedora when RMS is all about freedom
[11:14] <Tarthen> Wha>
[11:14] <WhiteCrow1> MenZa: TNX dude
[11:14] <Tarthen> Fedora is OpenSource
[11:14] <ChristW> Does anyone know from the top of their head if it is possible to read an Apple TIme Machine backup (on an external USB HDD) with an Ubuntu system?
[11:14] <TheNEWman> http://userful.com/
[11:14] <Jyxt> isnt fedora part of redhat?
[11:14] <zebastian> and ubuntu?
[11:14] <Jyxt> TheNEWman: check out this link http://linuxgazette.net/124/smith.html
[11:14] <Jyxt> zebastian: uhh...open source as well
[11:14] <TheNEWman> ok, thanks jyxt
[11:15] <zebastian> there's no community as large as ubuntu though right? so by having more users ubuntu has more bug reports and more developers and is therefore more stable?
[11:15] <erUSUL> WhiteCrow1: try encfs https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FolderEncryption
[11:15] <chunky> ChristW: yes
[11:16] <Tarthen> zebastian: Fedora is the community version of the commercial Red Hat Linux. Ubuntu is made by Canonical. They have equally big communities, IMO, but Ubuntu is "easiest"
[11:16] <MenZa> Tarthen: Actually, Ubuntu is made by thousands of contributors world-wide. :)
[11:16] <zebastian> easiest? in what respect? it's better because it's freer though right?
[11:16] <ChristW> chunky: Any references?
[11:16] <Tarthen> MenZa: Distributed then ;)
[11:16] <TheNEWman> jyxt, looks good.  Thanks
[11:16] <Jyxt> zebastian: easiest as in easy to install, update, etc
[11:16] <WhiteCrow1> erUSUL: tnx i go to see
[11:16] <JoshDreamland> Evolution is acting up. It disabled the send/receive button when I changed theme for some reason.
[11:17] <JoshDreamland> restarting does nothing
[11:17] <Jyxt> zebastian: vs something like gentoo which is probably the hardest...but both use the same software, just in a different way
[11:17] <MenZa> zebastian: Not a lot of modern Linux distributions are *fully* free, Ubuntu, for instance, are shipped with some proprietary components. If you want a fully free OS, try looking at gNewSense, or similar distributions.
[11:17] <zebastian> well, i saw linus torvalds uses fedora and i didn't get why he doesn't use ubuntu
[11:17] <chunky> ChristW: no, but it works for me personally
[11:17] <Jyxt> both are free...none are any more free than any others
[11:17] <ChristW> chunky: So I'll just mount the disk and see what I can find...
[11:17] <hittt> question: on the aspire one netbook, i need to reinstall the whole 9.04 installation, but, should i switch to a clean 9.10? Because several bugs are fixed there.
[11:18] <SilentJonathan> how do i register with this irc server?
[11:18] <TheNEWman> so while I am asking questions, does anyone know how to set up the vpn option in the network connections window.
[11:18] <zebastian> is power pc better than x86? i was reading partly why he uses fedora is because it works well on power pc
[11:18] <DJones> !register  | SilentJonathan
[11:18] <MenZa> But this is straying into offtopic-land; asking about how free Ubuntu is isn't, but let's not get into a long discussion about how free different distributions are compared to each other. That discussion belongs in #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[11:18] <erUSUL> zebastian: he is used to fedora? he likes it more for subjective reasons? has a fetish with hats ? really; move this to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:19] <viki25> Hello i compiled some tool i need for my research , when i try to use the tool i get msg : Set IRSTLM environment variable with path to irstlm . any idea what i should do ?
[11:19] <zebastian> nobody talks in ubuntu-offtopic
[11:19] <TheNEWman> Menza do you now how to setup a vpn in the network connections window?
[11:19] <erUSUL> zebastian: Linus no longer uses powerpc
[11:19] <Jyxt> zebastian: given the sheer number of linux distro's...why choose one over another, personal preference is what it boils down to...you use what you like
[11:19] <MenZa> TheNEWman: I wouldn't, no. I suggest hanging around in the channel, and maybe someone else will. :)
[11:19] <OldSmoke> anybody know how to get nvidia sli working in ubuntu?
[11:19] <zebastian> should i get rid of my x86 laptop and buy a power pc?
[11:19] <zebastian> is it better?
[11:19] <TheNEWman> Thanks menza
[11:19] <lolek> viki25: well you need to set up some environment variable
[11:19] <Jyxt> i use gentoo on my laptop and ubuntu on my desktop...doesnt make one better than the other
[11:20] <TheNEWman> jyxt, do you know how to configure the vpn option in the newtwork connection window?
[11:20] <JoshDreamland> Is there a way to check what accounts I have set up in Evolution?
[11:20] <Jyxt> TheNEWman: never used vpn
[11:20] <JoshDreamland> Perhaps one of them is disabled
[11:20] <TheNEWman> jyxt, thanks.
[11:20] <zebastian> main reasons why i chose ubuntu were because i met one of the developers, i saw it had a really big community and liked the userfriendliness
[11:20] <MenZa> TheNEWman: Just ask the channel, no point in asking individuals.
[11:20] <viki25> lolek: can you tell me how to do that ? (i am new to Ubuntu) can you give me an example ?
[11:20] <lolek> viki25: well no problem.. pm ?
[11:21] <TheNEWman> Does anyone know how to set up a vpn in the network connections window?
[11:21] <viki25> lolek: sure :)
[11:21] <JoshDreamland> Ah, never mind
[11:21] <zebastian> there's more packages for ubuntu than for anything else though right? because all of debian packages will run on ubuntu and debian has mre packages than anything
[11:21] <MonkeySilent> sd
[11:22] <WhiteCrow1> tnx all of you'r guys , bye
[11:22] <shos> help, i lost the right click to on the desktop on Gnome!
[11:22] <erUSUL> zebastian: not true. debian packages do not work in ubuntu
[11:22] <Jyxt> zebastian: not sure how true that is
[11:22] <acostello> good morning all. can someone help me with my sound? i can hear it when its quiet, but it wont get loud, and my headphones wont work...
[11:22] <jrib> shos: nautilus is responsible for that
[11:23] <zebastian> how about the bsd? i heard all linux packages will work on bsd
[11:23] <acostello> i have 9.04 on a gateway netbook
[11:23] <Jyxt> acostello: open your mixer and make sure that pcm, front etc are on and of a good volume
[11:23] <acostello> Jyxt: i did, but i will do it again
[11:23] <shos> jrib: how do i fix that?
[11:23] <Jyxt> i know my laptop has a seperate sound channel for the speakers and the headphone jack...was pissing me off for the longest why i had no sound out of the headphone jack until i realized the headphone mixer was muted
[11:23] <jrib> shos: I don't know, but seeing if nautilus is running and/or restarting nautilus and seeing if it crashes would be a good place to start
[11:24] <Jyxt> acostello: in my laptop it was called 'front' also my desktop has 'front' for the front sound jacks
[11:24] <adok> guys .. im having a huge problem with my laptop. i was trying to setup afterstep on ubuntu 9.04, and after i get all the packages installed, i run this command echo "export WINDOW_MANAGER=/usr/local/bin/afterstep" > ~/.gnomerc
[11:24] <adok> now the laptop crashs everytime i boot
[11:24] <acostello> Jyxt: what is the pcm?
[11:24] <TheNEWman> thanks everyone.  Good night
[11:25] <jrib> adok: erm, isn't afterstep in the repositories?  Why did you compile it?
[11:25] <adok> i got it from there, with normal package install
[11:25] <adok> synaptic i mean
[11:25] <Jyxt> acostello: not sure what it stands for or what it exactly is...but i know when its muted i have no sound
[11:25] <zebastian> will my laptop turn on faster once i get ext4?
[11:25] <demon_> can anyone help me with linux-image-2.6.30.5 i cant install it because it's allready installed but i can't install anything thunderbird vbox gcc because it requires this image to be installed.. but when i try to install it.. it's allready there!
[11:25] <jrib> adok: well it shouldn't be in /usr/local/
[11:26] <lolek> zebastian: don't think so...
[11:26] <imatt> hello there! I would lik to know, if there is a possibility, how to extract some .tar.gz  into usr/lib/gedit ??
[11:26] <jrib> iMatt: why?
[11:26] <iMatt> jrib, i want to istall a plugin for gedit!
[11:26] <adok> jrib, yes i know, i found that in a guide, and i changed to the right path after look for afterstep with whereis
[11:27] <jrib> adok: but that's not what you wrote.  What does your ~/.gnomerc actually say?
[11:27] <adok> i already booted in root mode, and deleted the file... even so, it doesnt work, laptop keeps crashing after it boots in graphic mode
[11:27] <wuehlmaus> hi, everyone, i have a strange problem with ubuntu jaunty, i am trying to run a postgresql-8.3-server and whenever i use /etc/init.d/postgresql-8.3 start absolutely nothing happens and no server is started
[11:27] <jrib> iMatt: use ~/.gnome2/gedit/plugins
[11:27] <adok> nothing, i didnt had it, i follow a guide from http://wiki.afterstep.org/index.php?title=Switching_to_AfterStep_in_Ubuntu_8.10
[11:27] <Jyxt> wuehlmaus: is that the tab completed command?
[11:28] <jrib> adok: what else did you run?
[11:28] <adok> even knowing my version is 9.04, everything was loking right
[11:28] <wuehlmaus> Jyxt: i think, yes
[11:28] <Jyxt> wuehlmaus: ie if you type /etc/init.d/postres(press tab)
[11:28] <Jyxt> err postgres
[11:28] <wuehlmaus> Jyxt: that's the script
[11:28] <adok> just that, i installed the packaged, run that, and rebooted... it crashed
[11:28] <wuehlmaus> i am used to using complete
[11:28] <jrib> !who | adok
[11:29] <adok> then i went in root mode after boot again, and deleted .gnomerc, in hope it was fixed.. but it wasnt
[11:29] <wuehlmaus> Jyxt: otherwise i would get a "file not found"
[11:29] <Jyxt> wuehlmaus: after tab completing the postgres part...press tab again
[11:29] <Jyxt> it should list possible commands?
[11:29] <jrib> adok: try setting WINDOW_MANAGER to metacity the same way you set it to afterstep
[11:29] <adok> jrib, sorry,
[11:29] <adok> hmm
[11:29] <Gnea> excellent, the upgrade succeeded!
[11:29] <Mutsch> #__iron
[11:30] <wuehlmaus> Jyxt: as i said, i am used to use completion , that isn't the problem
[11:30] <Jyxt> wuehlmaus: if you get commands there...try doing /etc/init.d/postgreswhateer status
[11:30] <wuehlmaus> nothing happens then
[11:30] <wuehlmaus> nada
[11:30] <Jyxt> wuehlmaus: heh, not even a: * postgres is not running
[11:30] <wuehlmaus> Jyxt: nothing :(
[11:30] <wuehlmaus> Jyxt: i found out that /etc/postgresql/ isn't there
[11:30] <Jyxt> wuehlmaus: maybe you need to do some post install configuration?
[11:31] <lolek> wuehlmaus: try: /etc/pgsql ?
[11:31] <Jyxt> i dont know anything about postgres...but i know mysql after install you have to setup the default databses and stuff, otherwise it wont run
[11:31] <wuehlmaus> lolek: didn't try that
[11:31] <lolek> :)
[11:31] <iMatt> thank you jrib! it works! i installed the textmate like plugin, so i can just pull in an folder, and to see the content of it on the left sidebar! But its still saying that the object is an folder! :S
[11:31] <lolek> Jyxt: the same is in postgre
[11:32] <lolek> Jyxt: but postgre is sometime in /etc/pgsql instead of /etc/postgresql
[11:32] <hittt> question: on the aspire one netbook, i need to reinstall the whole 9.04 installation, but, should i switch to a clean 9.10? Because several bugs are fixed there.
[11:32] <Jyxt> lolek: does that mean /etc/init.d/pgsql start would work instead of postgresql?
[11:32] <lolek> Jyxt: yes
[11:33] <lolek> Jyxt: pgsql is just a shortcut for postgresql
[11:33] <Jyxt> wuehlmaus: hehe...try that /etc/init.d/pgsql start :P
[11:33] <Weust`> hi, my gnome terminal displays ? at certain meta karakters, for example : meta-§ is this a setting?
[11:33] <lolek> loooool
[11:34] <Jyxt> /etc/init.d/mysqld start (not /etc/init.d/mysql start) since its a daemon...probably a gentoo thing
[11:34] <acostello> Jyxt: got it, it is an amarok setting, and it was driving me crazy...
[11:34] <acostello> Jyxt: thanks
[11:34] <lolek> Jyxt: hmmm.. well, yea.. i know...
[11:34] <^Zaz> anyone know how long it should take for the latest version of irssi to appear in the package repository?
[11:34] <__iron> Mutsch: yes?
[11:34] <lolek> Jyxt: i had gentoo...
[11:34] <Jyxt> lolek: i love gentoo, only downside is compiles soemtimes take forever
[11:35] <lolek> Jyxt: and that's why i use ubuntu on my amilo.. ;/
[11:35] <lolek> Jyxt: the problem is only the compile time.. ;)
[11:35] <adok> jrib no.. this didnt work
[11:35] <Jyxt> desktop runs ubuntu just for ease of use..i game on that machine and waiting for crap to compile and the days it would take me to get it to a working system...
[11:35] <jrib> adok: pastebin your .gnomerc
[11:37] <acostello> what is the consensus, should i use evolution mail, or thunderbird?
[11:37] <Jyxt> acostello: i use claws myself
[11:37] <__iron> acostello: i like thunderbird
[11:37] <acostello> claws?
[11:37] <adok> jrib http://pastebin.com/m3f5f6c5d
[11:37] <cyberjorge> any plans for ubuntu to work on the interface for multiuser function?
[11:37] <jrib> adok: describe what you mean by "crash" exactly
[11:38] <lutius> I cannot mount my hdd partitions
[11:38] <lutius> help someone?
[11:38] <Jyxt> acostello: http://www.claws-mail.org/
[11:38] <adok> jrib after it boots, as usual ubuntu loads the graphic login. it refreshs the screen like... 3 times, and laptop crashs, nothing works, no numlock, nothing
[11:38] <Jyxt> acostello: i use claws due to it being fairly lightweight and easy to setup (especially with gpg)
[11:38] <chalcedony> is firefox having periods of locking up for anyone else on ubuntu jaunty?
[11:39] <jrib> adok: so you never attempt to login?
[11:39] <adok> jrib, and ... i cant see anything only fuzz graphics..
[11:39] <lutius> I cannot mount my hdd partitions
[11:39] <adok> jrib no.. i cant display that screen
[11:39] <lutius> help someone?
[11:39] <jrib> adok: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:39] <Jyxt> lutius: what command are you using?
[11:39] <acostello> !partition
[11:40] <lutius> Jyxt: I was using ntfs config, and then tried with /etc/fstab...I restarted win manualy before installing linux
[11:40] <Jyxt> lutius: so your trying to mount an ntfs partition?
[11:40] <lutius> Jyxt: and that is why I cannot mount them...and force is not working
[11:40] <lutius> Jyxt: yes
[11:40] <lolek> chalcedony: hmm sometimes...
[11:40] <Jyxt> lutius: have you tried on the command line?
[11:40] <Jyxt> lutius: mount /dev/sd## /mnt/point
[11:41] <Jyxt> see what it tells you
[11:41] <lutius> Jyxt: haven't tried that
[11:41] <adok> jrib hmm... im using a PC next to the laptop, will take some time to get the log from there in here
[11:41] <Jyxt> sd## being something like sda5 or sdb3
[11:41] <cliebow> sudo
[11:41] <jrib> !pastebinit | adok
[11:41] <chalcedony> lolek, it's annoying .. havent had that before
[11:41] <Jyxt> adok: you can use a software called synergy to use one mouse/keybaord among multiple machines
[11:41] <lolek> chalcedony: well dunno.. usualy i use opera...
[11:41] <Jyxt> great thing about it is you can share the clipboard...ie cut from one machine...paste into the other
[11:41] <doktor_dre> is it ok to CTCP VERSION the channel
[11:41] <chalcedony> lolek, i used to use it.. but firefox OUGHT to work fine
[11:41] <lutius> Jyxt: it's saying that  mount point /mnt/point does not exist
[11:42] <wuehlmaus> there is no /etc/pgsql/, too
[11:42] <Jyxt> lutius: well yes...you have to mount it somewhere
[11:42] <erUSUL> doktor_dre: no
[11:42] <chalcedony> doktor_dre, at your peril, i'd say not
[11:42] <lolek> wuehlmaus: ok, so you need to do some post install things
[11:42] <doktor_dre> I am working on some statistics
[11:42] <Jyxt> lutius: sudo mkdir /mnt/test
[11:42] <Jyxt> then do sudo mount /dev/sd## /mnt/test
[11:42] <adok> Jyxt good.. but in the laptop, i can only boot in maintenance mode, under root
[11:42] <Jyxt> adok: oh...well synergy wont help you then :P
[11:42] <wuehlmaus> lolek: that has never happened to me under debian
[11:42] <Blizzerand> Is Karmic Alpha 6 the newest alpha
[11:42] <lolek> wuehlmaus: sudo apt-get install postgresql postgresql-client postgresql-contrib
[11:42] <erUSUL> doktor_dre: at your own risk the bot will ban you
[11:42] <lutius> Jyxt: it's not doing anything
[11:42] <lolek> wuehlmaus: sudo apt-get install pgadmin3
[11:43] <Jyxt> lutius: type df
[11:43] <adok> jrib im goin to try mount a usb drive
[11:43] <chalcedony> lolek, or anyone is there a way to fix firefox so it dosen't do this? (ive already got yahoo mail problems/)
[11:43] <JohannesSM64> what's the best for XP virtualization these days? (for gaming, needs access to USB devices and $HOME as a shared folder)
[11:43] <Jyxt> lutius: do you see your /dev/sd## mounted at /mnt/test
[11:43] <lolek> wuehlmaus: after that, do this: sudo su postgres -c psql template1
[11:43] <lutius> Jyxt: no
[11:43] <doktor_dre> erUSUL: ok, I will keep that in mind
[11:43] <Jyxt> lutius: becauase if it failed you would have gotten a message
[11:43] <wuehlmaus> lolek: postgres is not found
[11:43] <wuehlmaus> it is in /usr/lib/postgresql/8.3/bin, though
[11:43] <lutius> Jyxt: i see only partition where linux is installed
[11:43] <lolek> wuehlmaus: so you didn't installed posgre ?
[11:43] <erUSUL> JohannesSM64: virtualization does not help with gaming
[11:44] <wuehlmaus> lolek: posgre?
[11:44] <dallix> JohannesSM64: gaming is a distant hope in the virtual land
[11:44] <Jyxt> lutius: type sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sd## /mnt/test
[11:44] <Blizzerand> How do I know which alpha of Karmic I am using
[11:44] <lolek> chalcedony: well  i dunno.. for me this is not a big problem.. ;/
[11:44] <iceroot> erUSUL: not always
[11:44] <Jyxt> should give you an error
[11:44] <cyberjorge> any plans for ubuntu to work on the interface for multiuser / multiseat function?
[11:44] <fabio> guys i'm trying to install PROMPT translator in ubuntu
[11:44] <JohannesSM64> no, not for old games on a core i7 with KVM
[11:44] <erUSUL> !karmic | Blizzerand
[11:44] <fabio> is it possible using WINE?
[11:44] <iceroot> erUSUL: some games (most opengl) runs fine with vbox3
[11:44] <lolek> wuehlmaus: hmm postgre -> postgresql
[11:44] <wuehlmaus> lolek: where is your postgres?
[11:45] <Jyxt> fabio: check the site www.winehq.org
[11:45] <lolek> wuehlmaus: well i don't have it on machine that i'm sitting right now ;)
[11:45] <Jyxt> they have an app database
[11:45] <lutius> Jyxt: it's reporting error
[11:45] <Jyxt> lutius: whats the error
[11:45] <erUSUL> iceroot: i know of the opnegl accel features of VBox... but you are on the same boat as with wine..,. some games will run most will not
[11:45] <lolek> wuehlmaus: tried this: http://hocuspokus.net/2008/05/install-postgresql-on-ubuntu-804 ?
[11:45] <wuehlmaus> lolek: i only have one and that isn't in /usr/bin/
[11:45] <lutius> !pastebin
[11:45] <erUSUL> !appdb | fabio
[11:45] <shawn_> Theres like this thing to add to my toolbar on Ubuntu that can change my CPU frequency... Whats the difference if I have it on 1.60 Ghz or 2.13
[11:45] <lutius> Jyxt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/276987/
[11:46] <lutius> you'll see there
[11:46] <lolek> shawn_: well it show you the cpu speed...
[11:46] <Jyxt> lutius: ok...so at least it knows what the fs type is
[11:46] <lolek> shawn_: the current cpu speed
[11:46] <erUSUL> shawn_: speed and power draw. more speed more power (and heat)
[11:46] <Jyxt> lutius: and the command: sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/test does nothing?
[11:47] <Blizzerand> erUSUL : Tried #ubuntu
[11:47] <Jyxt> lutius: try: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/test
[11:47] <erUSUL> Blizzerand: #ubuntu+1
[11:47] <Jyxt> or sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /mnt/test
[11:47] <shawn_> lolek: Is there a way to overclock the CPU using a tool in Ubuntu as well?
[11:47] <adok> jrib here is the Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/m60bbcd93
[11:47] <lolek> shawn_: well i dunno.. usually you do this in BIOS .. ;)
[11:48] <demon_> the linux kernel meta package 0.1-bt0 is broken. ... .
[11:48] <lutius> Jyxt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/276991/
[11:48] <shawn_> lolek My bios doesnt let me change CPU frequency
[11:48] <lolek> shawn_: it's lappie ?
[11:48] <shawn_> Lappie?
[11:48] <nomad111> hey all, i was hoping someone could help me setup my usb sound card to work in firefox/opera (youtube basically), i am using a creative x-fi xmod usb sound card and when i try to play a video on youtube i do not get any sound out, anyone familiar with this issue?
[11:48] <lolek> shawn_: lappie -> laptop -> notebook ?
[11:48] <shawn_> Desktop
[11:48] <jrib> adok: do you know if the (EE) line in your log is normal for you?
[11:49] <Jyxt> lutius: try sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda1 /mnt/test
[11:49] <lolek> ** (padevchooser:7364): WARNING **: pa_browser_new() failed.
[11:49] <Jyxt> apparnatly the partition is not ntfs
[11:49] <Blizzerand> erUSUL : Sorry that was really a typo , I tried #ubuntu+1 and no one answers
[11:49] <adok> jrib i got no idea, actually, Xorg.0.log looks alot bigger compared to slackware
[11:49] <lolek> any idea.. which package fixes this problem ?
[11:49] <lolek> shawn_: uuu...
[11:49] <lolek> shawn_: well then... problaly you can change other things like.. cpu voltage...
[11:49] <lutius> Jyxt: it's not working...it must be specified
[11:50] <erUSUL> Blizzerand: well if you are updating when asked you have the lastest packages
[11:50] <nomad111> anyone?
[11:50] <lutius> Jyxt: nah,I'll install again win to mount paritions normaly,then reinstall linux...
[11:50] <Jyxt> lutius: type fdisk -l /dev/sda
[11:50] <BlackFate> nomad111, jaunty?
[11:50] <iceroot> erUSUL: yes that is true but i thinnk in the future this the the way to play games instead of using wine
[11:50] <Jyxt> lutius: what does it say under the System column for /dev/sda1
[11:50] <nomad111> BlackFate: yes
[11:50] <iceroot> erUSUL: "just" need hardware-virtualisation of the vga
[11:51] <lutius> Jyxt: Cannot open /dev/sda
[11:51] <BlackFate> nomad111, there is no x-fi support in jaunty.. but there is in karmic
[11:51] <lutius> Jyxt: Cannot open /dev/sda1
[11:51] <Jyxt> lutius: try sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda
[11:51] <erUSUL> iceroot: you may be right; as of today hard gamers should stay in windows imho
[11:51] <nomad111> BlackFate: i am able to play music from my hard drive just fine
[11:51] <Blizzerand> erUSUL : ok ad will plymouth be included in karmic release . Haven't seen it in action yet
[11:51] <nomad111> BlackFate: only in my browser it doesnt seem to work
[11:51] <BlackFate> nomad111, then ok... you need to configure pulse
[11:51] <ghabit> Hello. I want to how ubuntu mirror on my gentoo server. How I can do it?
[11:52] <BlackFate> nomad111, se default the x-fi card in pavucontrol
[11:52] <lutius> Jyxt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/276995/
[11:52] <adok> jrib well, theres got to be something wrong with my xorg.conf. i started Xorg, and it happens the same, it crashes
[11:52] <Jyxt> lutius: well thats your problem
[11:53] <Jyxt> lutius: /dev/sda1 is NOT an ntfs partition its most likely an ext2 or ext3 partition
[11:53] <lutius> Jyxt: ?
[11:53] <Jyxt> lutius: if it was ntfs it would look lke this
[11:53] <_pedda_> hi there i have some problems regarding afp + netatalk
[11:53] <Jyxt> /dev/sda3   *         609        2432    14651280    7  HPFS/NTFS
[11:53] <MinusSeven> has anyone tried gnome 2.28 yet?
[11:53] <lutius> Jyxt: i was wrong..it was sdb
[11:53] <Jyxt> lol
[11:53] <_pedda_> yesterday my fileserver hung up and now my netatalk service won't start
[11:54] <lutius> and I have there HPFS/NTFS
[11:54] <_pedda_> it tells me something about a lockfile
[11:54] <Jyxt> lutius: ok and sudo mount -t auto /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test
[11:54] <Jyxt> doesn't work?
[11:54] <Jyxt> or sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test
[11:54] <lutius> Jyxt: http://paste.ubuntu.com/276998/
[11:55] <MinusSeven> might be mounted already
[11:55] <Jyxt> lutius: hrm...never seen that error from mount
[11:55] <MinusSeven> I have
[11:56] <Jyxt> lutius: and typing 'mount' doesn't show it as being mounted already?
[11:56] <lutius> Jyxt: it's because I had restarted win on button not byt shut down command
[11:56] <Jyxt> lutius: try rebooting into windows and doing a proper shutdown...then going back to ubuntu and try mounting it
[11:56] <MinusSeven> i've seen it
[11:56] <nomad111> BlackFate: so i set the default to the creative
[11:56] <nomad111> BlackFate: still nothing...
[11:56] <iceroot> erUSUL: one day, linux is the gameing plattform .)
[11:57] <nomad111> do i need to reboot?
[11:57] <BlackFate> nomad111, ye after you set default do this
[11:57] <lutius> Jyxt: I have to reinstall win...buecause it crashed:)
[11:57] <BlackFate> nomad111, close firefox first
[11:57] <lutius> Jyxt: and that will fix the job:)
[11:57] <nomad111> yep all closed
[11:57] <BlackFate> nomad111, mv ~/.pulse ~/pulse_backup
[11:57] <Jyxt> fyi in fstab it would look like: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test/ auto noatime 0 0
[11:57] <lutius> Jyxt: thanks...and srry for mess:)
[11:57] <BlackFate> nomad111, and start firefox
[11:57] <Jyxt> changing /mnt/test for wherever you want to mount it
[11:57] <Jyxt> lutius: of if you dont want it automounted do
[11:57] <Jyxt> lutius: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test auto noauto,users 0 0
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> Jyxt: dont you need an fs type ?
[11:58] <Jyxt> ActionParsnip: the 'auto' tag after the mountpoint handles that
[11:58] <Jyxt> but i guess /dev/sdb1 /mnt/test ntfs-3g noauto,users 0 0 would be the same...little cleaner
[11:58] <nomad111> BlackFate: still nothing :(
[11:59] <Jyxt> why is doktor_dre doing a CTCP to everyone...then he just pm'd me asking 'what is windows'
[11:59] <BlackFate> nomad111, in pavucontrol you see the flash player playing?
[11:59] <Jyxt> i smell a scriptkiddie
[11:59] <nomad111> cant access that anymore, says: Connection failed: Connection refused
[12:00] <BlackFate> nomad111, its normal.. try to open it again
[12:00] <BlackFate> nomad111, second time will open after you moved .pulse
[12:00] <nomad111> oh ok
[12:02] <jdv> I have a dodgy disk / partition which according to testdisk utility cannot be recovered, do I have any options or must I format?
[12:02] <nomad111> BlackFate: so when i open pavucontrol i saw firefox in there and i saw the audio bar moving, it was set to my onboard sound card and i did 'move stream' to the usb sound card and it worked
[12:02] <BlackFate> nomad111, good
[12:02] <nomad111> BlackFate: however, do i have to do this everytime now?
[12:03] <BlackFate> nomad111, no only once
[12:03] <nomad111> BlackFate: awesome thanks a lot, appreciate it
[12:03] <BlackFate> nomad111, everything you change in pavucontrol is perm
[12:03] <BlackFate> nomad111, np
[12:03] <nomad111> cool
[12:03] <nomad111> can listen to pearl jam - the fixer now
[12:04] <pw-toxic> hi, i want to record something with my microphone. How can i do it and with which program?
[12:04] <iMatt> :D
[12:04] <disappearedng> Anyone familiar with how I can create a date object in openoffice calc
[12:04] <Pany94> Bonjour a tous & a toutes.
[12:04] <iMatt> :D
[12:04] <iMatt> test :P
[12:04] <iMatt> :D
[12:05] <bullgard4> When setting up a new Mozilla Thunderbird, the Account Wizard asks if one would like to set up a Unix Mailspool (Movemail) type of account. What is the function of a Unix Mailspool (Movemail) program? Is this just another name for 'Mail Transfer Agent' (MTA)?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: i think it reads the terminal mail on the local system
[12:07] <iceroot> bullgard4: its using the mailbox you manage with mail on the command-line
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: if you run the command mail in terminal you get a mailbox, it allows uni users to mail each other
[12:07] <iceroot> bullgard4: its your local user-mailbox
[12:07] <bullgard4> disappearedng: There is a Freenode channel #openoffice.org .
[12:08] <Jyxt> bullgard4: i think its for local mail deliveries
[12:08] <Jyxt> things like cron etc...without mail they end up in dead.letter, guessing thunderbird lets you grab those
[12:08] <jack007> ya
[12:08] <Bacta> Can someone recommend a good LDAP tutorial for stupid people like me? A focus on the web would be nice
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: if you are on a *nix based system in an exam, start emailing your friends instead of talking if its exam conditions. Its funny
[12:09] <jack007> hi everybody
[12:09] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip, iceroot: Thank you for explaining.
[12:10] <slawek> why my FF doesn't run only some videos. Opera run everyone.
[12:11] <bullgard4> slawek: If it does not run only some, it will run everything.
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: its also why you are told you have no mail when you ssh
[12:11] <lolek_> re
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> slawek: opera rocks could be one reason
[12:11] <jack007> i am new in ubuntu i have good experience  in rhel5 but ubuntu is some what different
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> slawek: check your flash install
[12:12] <zebastian> does ubuntu use ADA in any instance?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> slawek: if you use 64bit ubuntu you can use the 64bit beta flash
[12:12] <jamieleshaw> Hello, i have mythtv working partial, it pick up all channels etc. but it when i click watch tv it goes back to homescreen, any idea how to fix?
[12:12] <jack007> its really better than windows
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> jack007: in some ways yes, in others no
[12:13] <kinnaz> any ideas, for some reason my firefox shows grey box where videos/flash should be
[12:13] <karimas> anyone had a try with emapathy and desktop sharing?
[12:13] <jamieleshaw> karbo, me
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: reinstall flash
[12:13] <coz_> guys..out of curiosity is the next LTS   10.04  or 10.10  ?
[12:13] <iMatt> is there anybody that could tell me, how to setup gedit, that if i type php it will rewrite to text and auto-insert <?php ... ?> ???
[12:13] <adok> i think ubuntu takes more resources then any other disto
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> coz_: 10.04
[12:13] <jack007> ur firefox need flash
[12:13] <bazhang> coz_, karmic
[12:14] <jamieleshaw> karimas,  yes me
[12:14] <kinnaz> ActionParsnip, via firefox ?
[12:14] <bullgard4> karbo: What do you understand by 'desktop sharing'?
[12:14] <coz_> ActionParsnip,  thanks  so that would be  lucid lynx?
[12:14] <bazhang> coz_, whoops lucid
[12:14] <zebastian> *does ubuntu use ADA programming language in any instance?
[12:14] <shawn_> Right now my computer lists my RAM like this... Memoray Channel A: Slot 0 1024 MB Slot 1 2048 MB....  Memory CHannel B: Slot 0 1024 MB Slot 1 2048 MB.... Should I switch them so the two same ones are together or does it matter?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: no, via synaptic, uninstall it then reistall it
[12:14] <kinnaz> ActionParsnip, i dont think i instaleld it via synaptic in the first place but lets give it a try
[12:14] <karimas> jamieleshaw: oh... good! How was?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> !info ada-compilere
[12:14] <kinnaz> *installed
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> !info ada-compiler
[12:14] <karimas> jamieleshaw: is usable?
[12:15] <jamieleshaw> karbo, empathy is somewhat integrated an easy but i couldn't get my yahoo working
[12:15] <clearscreen> gnat - The GNU Ada compiler
[12:15] <clearscreen> !info gnat
[12:15] <jamieleshaw> karimas, empathy is somewhat integrated an easy but i couldn't get my yahoo working
[12:16] <iMatt> is there anybody that could tell me, how to setup gedit, that if i type php it will rewrite to text and auto-insert <?php ... ?> ???
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: if you use 64bit you can use the 64bit beta plugin, works groovy here
[12:16] <pluma> How do I check which packages I have installed? From the commandline, that is
[12:16] <kinnaz> ActionParsnip, package name?
[12:16] <karimas> jamieleshaw: I trying to find a solution to propose ubuntu as a real alternative to windows, but I need something that let me works like teamviewer do. If the desktop sharing is a zero configuration and usable solution... we are in!
[12:17] <jack007> how can i extend hard drive of virtual box in ubuntu
[12:17] <Koenigsegg_> Any wireless network wiz who'd like to try and help? Trying to connect wii to internet over wireless with ubuntu laptop as access point in middle.
[12:17] <raynob> Hi there, I have got dhcp and bind running almost perfectly on ubuntu - I can ping any of the addresses that's registered in dns, but dhcp leased addresses cannot be resolved by pinging the name of a pc.  What simple little thing am I missing?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: there isnt one, download the tar.gz and put the .so file in ~/.mozilla/plugins    : http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.32.18.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz  it will only work if your Ubuntu is 64bit. It WILL NOT WORK if you are using 32bit.
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: you will also need to remove the flash plugins you currently have installed
[12:18] <iMatt> !si
[12:18] <kinnaz> ActionParsnip, yep im on x64, imported my home dir from 32 so thats why i prolly have 32 version instaleld, tnx for help
[12:18] <indus> hiii
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: the plugins folder will need creating
[12:19] <pluma> What is the CLI equivalent of synaptic's "remove completely" (i.e. config files too)
[12:19] <pluma> for apt-get/aptitude/etc
[12:19] <bullgard4> pluma:  dpkg maintains some usable information about available packages.
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> pluma: sudo apt-get --purge remove <package>
[12:20] <pluma> bullgard4: Found dpkg --get-selections
[12:20] <pluma> ActionParsnip: thanks
[12:21] <bullgard4> karbo: What do you understand by 'desktop sharing'?
[12:21] <kinnaz> ActionParsnip, so i should see Shockwave Flash 10.0 r32 under plugins from firefox ?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: i guess
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: i always just hit a flash page like: http://www.rathergood.com/blode2
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: you'll need to make sure firefox is not running before you rerun it
[12:22] <karbo> bullgard4: huh?
[12:24] <kinnaz> ActionParsnip, that was it, didnot correctly restart firefox, now its working :) tnx for hel
[12:24] <bullgard4> karbo: ':~$ dict huh; No definitions found for "huh", perhaps you mean: gcide:  Huch .'
[12:24] <bullgard4>  
[12:24] <jamieleshaw> Hello, i have mythtv working partial, it pick up all channels etc. but it when i click watch tv it goes back to homescreen, any idea how to fix?
[12:24] <bazhang> bullgard4, you mistabbed; addressed to karimas instead
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: easiest way imho, stupid package never worked for me
[12:25] <jack007> how can i extend hard drive of virtual box in ubuntu
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> kinnaz: i do the same for java, 64bit java.bin file stick it in /opt and symlink, java be good
[12:25] <nomad111> hi can anyone recommend a decent svn client
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> !info svn
[12:25] <jack007> so my guest os get
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> !find svn
[12:25] <jack007> max space
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> !info esvn
[12:25] <wildman> hello there, I have my / (and others) partition formatted with ext3 (Ubuntu 9.04, x86 version, up to date packages), If I run df -h, I get "/dev/sdb5 92G 82G 5,8G 94% /", that is 92 GB size, 82 GB used and... 5.8GB free, not 10 GB free, any ideas on where the other 4GB+ may be? cuz when I add this 'small diffs' for all my partitions it adds up to 33GB!
[12:25] <bullgard4> bazhang: Yes, I am sorry.
[12:25] <DasEi> jack007: possible, but a question for #virtualbox
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> nomad111: esvn i guess
[12:26] <nomad111> lol ActionParsnip
[12:26] <jack007> ya
[12:26] <jack007> actual it work for vmware
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> nomad111: try: apt-cache search svn | less
[12:27] <bullgard4> karbo: I mistakenly directed an answer to you which should have been directed to <karimas>. My apologies.
[12:27] <evident> hi everybody... A friend of mine got a virus on his windows system so it doesnt start up anymore. So now I wanted to help him by booting from an ubuntu cd and start a virus-scanner
[12:27] <karbo> bullgard4: no problem :)
[12:27] <evident> is there a virus scanner integrated in the ubuntu live cd?
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> !av | evident
[12:28] <bazhang> evident, its optional can be installed
[12:28] <DasEi> evident: per default no scanner, but can run antivir from commandline, if enough ram available
[12:28] <bazhang> clamav is the package evident
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> evident: there is AV like clamAV and AVG etc but its not hugely needed unless you are scanning windows partitions or run a mail server
[12:29] <evident> ok I'll try antivir... any other tools you could recommend for ubuntu?
[12:29] <evident> ok i noted these... and I'll try... thanks everybody!
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> evident: depends what you want to achieve
[12:30] <evident> ActionParsnip, get his system virus free... :)
[12:30] <DasEi> evident: clamav is in the repos, antivir has no deb, but a tar.gz on their homepage
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> evident: already done
[12:30] <evident> i also have the avira rescue cd, if nothing works
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> evident: if you are scanning a windows partition then you need one
[12:31] <razor_X> hi guys
[12:31] <evident> ok thanks... gotta go... bye
[12:31] <razor_X> still having display issues
[12:32] <wildman> hello there, I have my / (and others) partition formatted with ext3 (Ubuntu 9.04, x86 version, up to date packages), If I run df -h, I get "/dev/sdb5 92G 82G 5,8G 94% /", that is 92 GB size, 82 GB used and... 5.8GB free, not 10 GB free, any ideas on where the other 4GB+ may be? cuz when I add this 'small diffs' for all my partitions it adds up to 33GB!
[12:32] <razor_X> hello hax
[12:32] <DasEi> cd
[12:33] <razor_X> now i am getting a display error at bootup
[12:33] <razor_X> :(
[12:33] <razor_X> kicks his ancient PC
[12:33] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: can you expand
[12:33] <razor_X> i am a total noob when it comes to ubuntu gnome guys so bear with me
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: what is happening, all you have told us i something is broken
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: details man, details
[12:34] <razor_X> ok i expanded my display to allow 1024X768 and i have to scroll around the desktop to see the whole desktop and now at bootup it has to start in low color mode
[12:35] <adok> can you guys notice any diference between ext3 and ext4?
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> adok: speed
[12:35] <razor_X> i am running a 17 in LCD on a nvidia GeForce2 MX 100/200
[12:35] <razor_X> graphics card
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> adok: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
[12:35] <adok> ActionParsnip, but.. is it safe.. stable to use ext4?
[12:36] <Dr_Willis> adok:  its the default in the next release.. i considuer that yes to both...
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> adok: it is in karmic, not sure about the kernel in jaunty with it
[12:36] <dg1> hey i installed ubuntu using wubi on my ntfs, now that i have all my stuff on here. how do i move it the a ext4 drive
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: ok boot to recovery mode and select fix graphics
[12:36] <kora> hi i'm trying to run a program under ubuntu 2.6.24 and it says "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.8' not found" anyone knows how to fix this?
[12:36] <razor_X> ok will try that action
[12:36] <krappi> exit
[12:36] <razor_X> thank you
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> kora: sounds like you are missig a file, which means you need a package or a symlink to give the file
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> kora:  what program is asking for that?
[12:38] <Mano> can any one tell me the link 2 download vlc for upundu
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> kora: what app are you running to get the error
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> mano: its ubuntu
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | man
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> !info vlc
[12:38] <Mano> no vlc player
[12:39] <Dr_Willis> some reason you dont want to do a 'sudo apt-get install vlc' ?
[12:39] <Mano> i want a link 2 download
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> mano: sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> mano: you dont need a link in ubuntu, its on the repo
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> mano:    apt:vlc
[12:39] <Mano> any website
[12:40] <razor_X> okay did that
[12:40] <kora> ActionParsnip, Dr_Willis: its a program (written by some dr.) i used for university; it did run before so the libraries should be installed. when i copied some files via scp the connection interrupted and then when trying to do something on a shell the bash always returned seg fault )=
[12:40] <kora> the i used my own bashrc
[12:40] <Jyxt> Mano: why download when you can let synaptics install it for you?
[12:40] <Jyxt> better that way
[12:40] <kora> so the seg fault disappeared, but the other erreor emerged
[12:40] <unimatrix> why does it take ubuntu almost 1 second to open a simple home folder in nautilus?
[12:40] <dg1> any one know how to move a wubi install to a ext4 drive
[12:40] <unimatrix> is it a bug?
[12:40] <razor_X> ActionParsnip is there a way to increase my resolution and make it where i can see the whole screen in 1024X768 mode?
[12:41] <SkyRocknRoll> Jyxt, may be he is try to install it on a offline system !!
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> dg1:  ive seen it discussed on the forums.. but ive neverf seen anyone do it.
[12:41] <indus> mano in ubuntu , all software is available from a central location called a repository and it can be accessed via add/remove from menu
[12:41] <Mano> may i find in symantac
[12:41] <razor_X> 800X600 is so lame i cant see half of stuff
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: sure, if you run: gksudo jockey-gtk      you should be offered a driver
[12:41] <infecto> hello some one i familiar with monodevelop crash? i`m up to date.
[12:41] <Jyxt> Mano: anyway just go to vlc site http://www.videolan.org/vlc/
[12:41] <dg1> ok it can be done
[12:41] <dg1> all i needed to know
[12:41] <indus> mano the command sudo apt-get install vlc
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> Mano:  its in the package manager listings.. yes...  Use teh package manager tools.
[12:42] <razor_X> actionparsnip i have the nvidia driver installed but it detects my monitor as 800X600
[12:42] <indus> mano will install the software, this is what also happens when you run synaptic
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> dg1:  this is linux.. somthing can always be 'done' :) just may be easier to do it some other way then what you were thinking..
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> !clone | dg1
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: ok then run: gksudo nvidia-settings
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: do you get a message saying there is no driver?
[12:42] <indus> ActionParsnip: no need to run nvidia-settings with sudo
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> indus: is if you want to write to xorg.conf to make the boot screen the same res as the desktop
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> indus:  err.. i have to if i want to to change the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:43] <indus> ActionParsnip: aah thats nvidia-xconfig
[12:43] <dg1> man, thats clever
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> indus: no thats to give a stock xorg.conf with nvidia oodnes
[12:43] <mun> hi
[12:43] <razor_X> actionparsnip it says to configure it as root
[12:43] <indus> anyways
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> heh nvidia-settings (with no X) is the X app.. nvidia-xconfig with the X is not a X app. :)
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: ok thats fine, close the app down
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:44] <indus> nvidia-xconfig never works for me anyway
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> indus: me neither, i ignore it
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> ive not had to use nvidia-xconfig in ages.
[12:44] <indus> ActionParsnip: dpkg is good enough
[12:44] <mun> if some source code is copyrighted only, can it be reused or modified? would code that's copyrighted still be considered as open source?
[12:44] <razor_X> aci did it didnt do anything
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: in the middle of the file you will see: Section "Device"   Identifier "Configured Video Device"  EndSection
[12:45] <indus> mun: depends on the copyright holder
[12:45] <razor_X> it didnt open gedit
[12:45] <indus> mun: its a legal issue and off topic for this channel
[12:45] <kecha> HI
[12:45] <razor_X> okay i see the section
[12:46] <kecha> any woman for chat
[12:46] <kecha> ?
[12:46] <MenZa> !offtopic | kecha
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: cool underneath where it says: Identifier "Configured Video Device" add a new line
[12:46] <bazhang> kecha, no
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: Driver "nvidia"
[12:46] <razor_X> okay doing that now
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: then save the new file and close gedit
[12:46] <pluma> Something's listening on localhost:submission and localhost:smtp, how do I find out which program is responsible?
[12:46] <adac> Github search is a massive fail.... Is there a cool tagging plugin out there?
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: then reboot
[12:47] <razor_X> actionparsnip brb
[12:47] <dg1> If I moved to a ext4 rather than ntfs would my computer run faster
[12:47] <MenZa> dg1: You'd have less fragmentation.
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> dg1:  i find ext4 faster for my needs then ntfs
[12:48] <dg1> ext4 and a swap
[12:48] <indus> any proof its faster?
[12:48] <indus> ntfs is good i say
[12:49] <dg1> hmm ntfs vs. ext4
[12:49] <Weust`> hi, my gnome terminal displays ? at certain meta karakters, for example : meta-§ is this a setting?
[12:49] <jacquesdupontd> hey
[12:50] <razor_X> actionparsnip now it only lets me run in 640x480
[12:50] <indus> is ati driver performance as good as in windows?
[12:50] <indus> answer me !
[12:50] <bazhang> indus, is that a topic for this channel?
[12:51] <indus> ya driver for ubuntu
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> indus:  i would guess.. No.
[12:51] <indus> iam almost online paying for a radeon HD 4850
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: if you run: gksudo nvidia-settins can you set a better res
[12:51] <dg1> is the sky bluer than ext4
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> I wouldent get an ati card. But do what you want.
[12:52] <indus> Dr_Willis: YOU have ati?
[12:52] <razor_X> actionparsnip no
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: then id say you have a bad driver
[12:52] <Dr_Willis> indus:  ive used ati in the past a great deal.. and now have converted everything to nvidia.. i dont plan on going back to ati any time soon.
[12:52] <razor_X> actionparsnip it only offers 640X480 and 320X230
[12:53] <indus> Dr_Willis: i know they have drivres every month on  site, so if i could get a nice positive answer
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: set the driver to vesa and reboot, uninstall the nvidia driver you installed
[12:53] <indus> Dr_Willis: i think ill go blind and buy one, i have great hopes for the radeon HD driver open source one
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> indus:  in the last ati drivers update.. they removed  a lot of their 'older cards'   so 3d support for bsaically vanished....
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> indus:  good luck..
[12:54] <indus> Dr_Willis: radeon 4850 :)
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> i dont plan on going ati in the forseable future.
[12:54] <acostello> indus: the ati drivers have gotten better over the last 2 years, but prior they sucked... i would get nvidia if you could...
[12:54] <indus> Dr_Willis: also, open source drivers have 3d support
[12:54] <DuncanM_> Does the latest 4850 driver from ATI work on ubuntu? now installing it
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> indus:  'some' do.. and some actually work..
[12:54] <razor_X> actionparsnip ok back in a bit
[12:54] <indus> i think ill ask a question to amd directly
[12:55] <acostello> indus: good luck with that...
[12:55]  * indus goes seawrching for the contacts page
[12:55] <acostello> indus: you may as well put your finger in a light socket...
[12:55] <acostello> lol
[12:55] <indus> lol
[12:57] <acostello> man ubuntu has gotten better... i just put a memory stick duo in my netbook and whalla, fspot photo manager picked it right up, downloaded my pics to the computer and rolled out. lovin it guys... thanks for all your help actionparsnip, drwillis, and indus
[12:57] <indus> acostello: your are that crazy nick fello?
[12:57] <acostello> yeppers
[12:57] <razor_X> actionparsnip ok how do i uninstall the driver?
[12:59] <razor_X> actionparsnip driver removed
[13:00] <razor_X> great actionparsnip split on me
[13:00] <razor_X> anyone know a good driver for the nvidia GeForce2 MX 100/200 in ubuntu 9.04
[13:02] <Dr_Willis> proberly the lowest version of the nvidia drivers.. for that low a end card..
[13:03] <razor_X> i have tried alot of the drivers and am still having problems
[13:03] <user_> hi , someone can tell me how i can see wht user i have in my Ubuntu from console
[13:04] <b3rz3rk3r> good afternoon gents
[13:04] <mikla> tell me 1 game ... to apt-get ... fast ... im bored ...
[13:05] <b3rz3rk3r> mikla, Never put
[13:05] <b3rz3rk3r> think its all one word actually
[13:05] <b3rz3rk3r> :s
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> user_:  look in the /home/ dir to see what users exist you mean?
[13:05] <razor_X> Dr_Willis i should use the nvidia71?
[13:05] <Jyxt> mikla: openarena
[13:05] <adok> mikla: Need-For-Speed-Shift
[13:05] <Dr_Willis> razor_X:  you should proberly check teh nvidia docs and see what version they say supports that old a card.
[13:05] <adok> ^___________^
[13:05] <daglees> Hello, I have an Intel 82Q963/Q965 Integrated graphics controller and I'd like to know how to set Xorg up so it recognizes it
[13:06] <mikla> openarena hmm im already playing quakelive :D is it similar?
[13:06] <Jyxt> mikla: believe its built on the same engine
[13:06] <daglees> Because at the moment performance is very poor on my machine and I've got a dual core 2.4/4gb RAM setup
[13:06] <mikla> okey ty
[13:06] <razor_X> Dr_Willis i have been all over the Nvidia and ubuntu websites and its still greek to me
[13:06] <adok> jyxt oh rly? im goin to try too
[13:06] <Jyxt> mikla: also saurbaten is cool
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> razor_X:  http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/169.12/README/appendix-a.html
[13:06] <Jyxt> alien arena
[13:07] <Jyxt> sorry saurbraten
[13:07] <mikla> will check
[13:07] <Jyxt> flight gear, but that takes quite a bit of reading etc
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> GeForce2 MX 100/200 0x0111  Below are the legacy GPUs that are no longer supported in the unified driver. These GPUs will continue to be maintained through the special legacy NVIDIA GPU driver releases.
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> The 96.43.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs:
[13:08] <adok> btw, i need to ask this, how can i fix my kernel agains the new sock_sendpage exploit?
[13:08] <mikla> any good strategy?
[13:08] <mikla> :D
[13:08] <adok> i tested in ubuntu and its vulnerable
[13:08] <Jyxt> mikla: ive heard good things about glest
[13:08] <Jyxt> havent tried it myself
[13:09] <mikla> glest hmmm will check, thx m8
[13:09] <raynob> Hi there, I have got dhcp and bind running almost perfectly on ubuntu - I can ping any of the addresses that's registered in dns, but dhcp leased addresses cannot be resolved by pinging the name of a pc.  What simple little thing am I missing?
[13:09] <Boondoklife> mikla: its not in the repos but openorion is good
[13:10] <Jyxt> torcs is good if you like racing games
[13:10] <Pici> adok: What version of Ubuntu?
[13:10] <mikla> it doesnt need to be in rep using nix more than 10 y :P
[13:10] <Jyxt> Pici: ubuntu version doesnt matter...as its a kernel level exploit, newer kernels 2.6.30+ have it fixed i believe
[13:11] <Jyxt> but ubuntu doesn't run newerd kernels by default
[13:11] <adok> 9.04 kernel 2.6.28-15-generic
[13:11] <adok> Pici 9.04 kernel 2.6.28-15-generic
[13:11] <Pici> Jyxt: It does matter because some releases are patched already.
[13:12] <adok> Pici i run the update almost all the days, so far i supose i got the latest kernel installed
[13:12] <Rounin> Hello! I was wondering whether there's any way of preventing the graphical Update Manager from starting up whenever I run apt-get?
[13:12] <Boondoklife> yup
[13:12] <Rounin> An environment variable that can make it not be aware of X, perhaps?
[13:13] <Rounin> (ssh localhost? :)
[13:13] <adok> pici o tested some of the versions in milw0rm.. but so far all the fix makes me recompile the kernel from kernel.org... wich i rly didnt wanted to
[13:13] <Pici> adok: What exact version does 'apt-cache policy linux' say you're using?
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> Rounin:  Unset DISPLAY :)
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> Rounin:  but ive never worried too much about it.
[13:13] <adok> Pici hold on
[13:13] <cheater99> hi guys
[13:13] <Rounin> Tgabjs Dr_Willis
[13:13] <cheater99> what's a good cd audio extraction tool?
[13:14] <Rounin> I mean thanks
[13:14] <Gateway`> hello everybody, I have an external disk which I use usually on windows... unfortunatly, the laptop had been infected by a virus that crypted a full directory, when I try to access to files into this directory a message appears telling me " access denied "
[13:14] <cheater99> i have a cd which is a little bit scratched and i need something that will give me the best
[13:14] <Gateway`> the name of files appears in a green color, that means they crypted with a password
[13:14] <Dr_Willis> Gateway`:  when trying to access from WINDOWS or from Linux?
[13:14] <adok> Pici http://pastebin.com/m2a08fbf0
[13:15] <Gateway`> Dr_Willis, yes the same result :s
[13:15] <fbianconi> |info ddrescue | cheater99
[13:15] <fbianconi> !info ddrescue | cheater99
[13:15] <Travis-42> if I'm willing to deal with potential temporary problems, can I use ubuntu 9.10 alpha 6 and eventually just upgrade to the final release, or if I use the alpha will I need to do a fresh install from scratch of the final release to ensure things work ok?
[13:15] <cheater99> fbianconi, bear in mind that this is an audio cd
[13:15] <cheater99> i just need the audio
[13:15] <cheater99> i don't need all the sub data etc
[13:16] <Pici> adok: one moment
[13:16] <Pici> Travis-42 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> cheater99:  ddrescue tries very very very hard to get all the data it can.. doing several reads if needed.
[13:16] <Travis-42> ok thanks Pici
[13:16] <Gateway`> these files are very important, I really need them :s
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> Gateway`:  you proberly want to be googling for that exact virus and a proper way to 'undo' its damage. Im guessing.
[13:17] <kitallis> does apps leaking memory have anything to do with distros?
[13:17] <kitallis> different distros?
[13:17] <cheater99> Dr_Willis, cd audio has an error correcting code as well which is scattered around the disc. i wouldn't like bits to be marked as the wrong value because the extraction tool did not check the checksum and instead had to guess what the bit was..
[13:17] <Gateway`> Dr_Willis, I've already tried but nothing important... thanks anyway :)
[13:18] <Weust`> hi, my gnome terminal displays ? at certain meta karakters, for example : meta-§ is this a setting?
[13:18] <CopyWriter> i can't wait for the release of the new distro
[13:19] <cheater99> i really really need something that's specifically made for ripping audio cds
[13:19] <CopyWriter> all the way till the end of october
[13:20] <Pici> adok: One other thing, what arch are you on?
[13:20] <nawk> I understand there is a RAR plugin that I can install to "File Roller" archive manager
[13:21] <nawk> what's it called does anyone know
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[13:21] <leagris> Hello, just to warn you someone on this IRC tryes to send a file STARTKEYLOGGER.. It happened 2 times this week.
[13:21] <adok> pici im using jaunty version, 686
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> nawk:  check the package manager for 'rar'  and 'unrar'
[13:21] <Pici> leagris: Please don't repeat that here, we're aware of that, the person has been banned.
[13:21] <jdv> I have a dodgy disk / partition which according to testdisk utility cannot be recovered, do I have any options or must I format?
[13:21] <Maritim> I'm running Banshee in Ubuntu 9.04, I just installed Banshee and when I try to play a song all I get is an orange box with an X in it to the left of the trackname.
[13:22] <indus> nawk: sudo apt-get install unrar-nonfree
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> jdv:  whats it supposed to be?
[13:22] <jdv> Dr_willis thanks. its ext3 my main ubuntu partition /
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> jdv:  you could try to 'ddrescue' it to a file. and try to fsck the file.
[13:23] <indus> nawk: sudo apt-get install unrar   (sorry ignore lastmessage)
[13:23] <jdv> fsck fails due to bad superblock
[13:23] <snth> I have created SSH tunnel to create SOCKS proxy. It works fine when I use it locally with firefox. However, it doesn't work when I configure a remote firefox. Can anyone help me with this? It seems like the port isn't open.
[13:23] <indus> nawk: after that , you will get this on right click
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> jdv:   theres supposed to be more then 1 copy of the superblock i recall.. but  ive rarely recovered such  things..   if its very imporntant you may want to check out ddrescue and  some 'recovery' guides
[13:24] <adok> pici .. im just looking for something for ubuntu, i was able to correct this in slackware, by decreasing the size of nnmap
[13:24] <kitallis> does apps leaking memory have anything to do with distros?
[13:24] <kitallis> in b/w different distros?
[13:24] <adok> pici somehow the same fix doesnt apply to ubuntu
[13:24] <jdv> Dr_Willis yes testdisk locates other copies of ext2 superblock but I have no clue what do with that info. I will check out ddrescue, thanks
[13:24] <boscop> how can I tell emacs to run in the shell, not in a window?
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> jdv:  you can give fsck some option to use them.. i forget the option
[13:25] <Pici> adok: I'm just trying to figure out why you don't have the updated package, because it was released. 2.6.28-15.49 was released to specifically address this issue.
[13:25] <kitallis> boscop: emacs -nw
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> jdv:  fsck.ext3 -b superblock       -OTHERSTUFF HERE
[13:26] <Pici> adok: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.28-15.49
[13:26] <boscop> kitallis: thanks
[13:26] <jdv> Dr_willis do I replace 'superblock' with the specific number of the superblock?
[13:26] <adok> pici 15.49???? no... im on 15.20
[13:26] <jdv> http://pastebin.com/m42c13bd0
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> jdv:  yes. :)
[13:26] <kitallis> does apps leaking memory have anything to do with distros?
[13:26] <adok> pici hold on, let me see if the update gets anything about 15.49
[13:26] <kitallis> in b/w different distros?
[13:26] <Pici> adok: I know, but 15.49 is an update that should have been presented to you.
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> kitallis:  if i say 'no' will you be happy?
[13:27] <adok> pici running update
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> kitallis:  i imagine the answer is 'it depends' :)
[13:27] <kitallis> Dr_Willis: if you explain, i'd be happy
[13:27] <kitallis> on what?
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> kitallis:  like the libs the apps are using.. for one thing.
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> kitallis:  and the app version.. options used to compile said apps....
[13:28] <kitallis> but that's common to all distros?
[13:28] <kitallis> (let's say it is)
[13:28] <NauTiluS> jdv e2fsck -f -D /dev/sdXX
[13:28] <Gateway`> is there a help channel in french guys ?
[13:28] <bazhang> #ubuntu-fr
[13:28] <Gateway`> thanks
[13:28] <bazhang> kitallis, which app which version of ubuntu
[13:28] <razor_X> bleh
[13:28] <MikeH> hrm
[13:29] <razor_X> still no go on the resolution increas for the nvidia graphics card i have installed
[13:29] <razor_X> this sucks
[13:29] <MikeH> I've just compiled 2.6.31 under 9.04, upon booting I've had a lot of I/O errors, and had it tell me that the ext3 journal has been deleted
[13:29] <fbianconi> cheater99: cdstatus http://cdstatus.sourceforge.net/ (no package tough)
[13:29] <jdv> NautTilus: thanks, says superbolock invalid, trying backup blocks.. bad magic number
[13:29] <MikeH> Anyone have any suggestions why?
[13:29] <kitallis> bazhang: Opera, same version, same tabs, on ubuntu it runs fine, on OpenSuse it leaks lotsa mem
[13:30] <bazhang> kitallis, #suse could help with OpenSuse problems
[13:30] <jdv> NauTiluS: http://pastebin.com/m36c4ec28
[13:30] <jdv> :(
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> Hmm..opera is compiled by the oprea guys.. - i would check the opera forums.
[13:30] <kitallis> well my question was pretty general, but anywway
[13:31] <razor_X> i am running ubuntu 9.04 on an older compaq tower with an nvidia geforce2 MX 100/200 and i am unable to get a working nvidia driver and unable to increase resolution beyond 800x600 can someone please help me fix this where i can see the entire screen at 1034X768?
[13:31] <mikla> why ppl use opera?
[13:31] <mikla> dont understund :D
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> very well could be some lib oprea is using on SUSE is the problem/leak
[13:31] <nawk> Maritim do you have any trouble with video playback in Banshee?
[13:32] <NauTiluS> jdv attempts to recover the damaged part with testdisk
[13:32] <razor_X> the driver they suggest is unavailable in linux Dr_Willis
[13:32] <jdv> testdisk says cant recover
[13:33] <NauTiluS> likely
[13:33] <zebastian> what are some cool windows apps that run on wine? by the way i downloaded winamp and installed it and it didn't seem to work, i couldn't find it anywhere
[13:33] <bazhang> zebastian, check the appdb
[13:33] <b3rz3rk3r> !appdb
[13:33] <bazhang> !appdb > zebastian
[13:33] <razor_X> ActionParsnip welcome back
[13:33] <NineTeen67Comet> Hay all. Is there an app (cli or otherwise) that I can use to pop-up a note to another computer on my network? I've got two kids with Ubuntu boxes in their room and I would like to be able to send a pop-up message to their screen.
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: thanks
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> !xmms | zebastian
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: xmms was a lot like winamp, its no longer developed but the alternatives are highlighted there
[13:34] <razor_X> ActionParsnip the driver nvidia suggests is not available in linux is there an alternate driver available i can use?
[13:34] <b3rz3rk3r> NineTeen67Comet, you could run pidgin at start and use Bonjour accounts
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: what is the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[13:34] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: whichw ould you personally recomend yourself for ubuntu hardy?
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: for media playback I use mplayer and vlc
[13:35] <razor_X> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11DDR [GeForce2 MX200] (rev b2)
[13:35] <zebastian> mplayer? is that like totem? by the way, i don't like vlc that much it's sort of jumpy ActionParsnip
[13:35] <Maritim> nawk: I'll have a look
[13:35] <NineTeen67Comet> b3rz3rk3r: That would work. I'd have to start it before I sent the message though. They are young kids (4 and 7) so I really don't want them online (networked but not on the web) ..
[13:35] <b3rz3rk3r> NineTeen67Comet, that would be LAN only messaging, and would also allow them to reply :)
[13:35] <razor_X> ActionParsnip 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11DDR [GeForce2 MX200] (rev b2)
[13:36] <Maritim> nawk: I do. No errar message or notice, but all I get is the banshee logo on a black background.
[13:36] <b3rz3rk3r> NineTeen67Comet, you can just set it up to start on boot
[13:36] <Allvaro> Hello ;) any1 want invitation to Lockerz ?(free gifts for points) i have 17 ;). Write email if you want
[13:36] <NineTeen67Comet> b3rz3rk3r: I'll play with it. I was hoping we had something like netsend in the ms world (my house has no ms but still it was a handy tool)
[13:36] <Maritim> nawk: error*
[13:37] <b3rz3rk3r> NineTeen67Comet, there is also remote desktop which you could use to open a window in front of them and have dialog that way too
[13:37] <Pici> Allvaro: This is a support channel, please do not advertise  or spam here.
[13:37] <wildman> bye ppl
[13:37] <Allvaro> wooops sry xd
[13:37] <cheater99> fbianconi, thanks, checking it out
[13:37] <b3rz3rk3r> NineTeen67Comet, i remember netsend, and im sure there are linux equivs but i dont know of any personally
[13:37] <NineTeen67Comet> b3rz3rk3r: I've been using rdesktop for some of that. Mainly to watch what they are doing.
[13:37] <razor_X> Actionparsnip ironically it works fine under windows but its being a bear in linux
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: mplayer can play lots of things, its similar to totem
[13:38] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: does it come out of the box in hardy?
[13:38] <NineTeen67Comet> b3rz3rk3r: I'll ask around a little. I've been a linux only household since 2001, but haven't had a need like this until now (dansguardian is my next work) ..
[13:38] <zebastian> i'm wondering whether i have it or have used it and idn't like it
[13:38] <b3rz3rk3r> NineTeen67Comet, you could try this: http://linpopup2.sourceforge.net/
[13:38] <razor_X> anyone know of free DJing software for linux?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: sudo apt-get --purge remove nvidia*; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean; rm ~/.nvidia-settings-rc; sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-96
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: no, you need to install it
[13:39] <NineTeen67Comet> b3rz3rk3r: oh, that looks really close .. thanks, I'll go play with it. I'm off to bed right now, but thanks for the direction and ideas.
[13:39] <b3rz3rk3r> NineTeen67Comet, np, anytime. sleep well
[13:39] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: what do you think of amarokk?
[13:39] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: its nice but i find it bloated
[13:39] <NineTeen67Comet> thanks man
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: try it, if you like it, use it
[13:40] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: bmpx vs mplayer?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: i pick mplayer over most, its one of the original and best
[13:40] <razor_X> ActionParsnip running that now
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> imho
[13:40] <Kingtiger01> Later all!
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: ets rid of all nvidia stuffs then reinstalls a driver from fresh
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: once its done, restart
[13:41] <ubuntu> hello
[13:41] <razor_X> ActionParsnip i appreciate your patients with me because i am an absolute noob at this shit
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: you'll learn with time
[13:42] <razor_X> ActionParsnip i have used linux remotely for years just never used a GUI
[13:42] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: can you help me out with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/277062/
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: i dont use gui much
[13:43] <Travis-42> I lost power and had to restart and I keep getting errors now about /tmp not having enough space -- it appears that /tmp only has a size of 1MB now for some reason. How do I correct this?
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: hence irc is really good for support for me :)
[13:43] <razor_X> ActionParsnip i will brb rebooting
[13:43] <nawk> Maritim, can I pm you??
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Travis-42: is /tmp on its own partition?
[13:44] <Travis-42> ActionParsnip: no
[13:44] <pastorn> i want to read the sources for the screensavers
[13:44] <pastorn> where do i look?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Travis-42: i'd boot to recovery root console or livecd and fsck the disks
[13:45] <Travis-42> ActionParsnip: it happened after my / got full because of an error (which I fixed).  /tmp is also mounted as 'overflow'
[13:45] <Pici> pastorn: apt-get source xscreensaver-data or the other xscreensaver- packages.
[13:45] <Maritim> nawk: most certainly
[13:45] <Travis-42> ActionParsnip: ok
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> Travis-42: could run computer janitor
[13:45] <pastorn> Pici: yeah, but where do they land?
[13:45] <Travis-42> ActionParsnip: let me try rebooting and running checks
[13:46] <cheater99> hey guys
[13:46] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  *  http://paste.ubuntu.com/277065/
[13:46] <razor_X> ActionParsnip ok i am back now
[13:46] <cheater99> can someone remind me how to redirect stderr to a file?
[13:46] <cheater99> i think command > c.log &2>1 but it doesn't work
[13:47] <llutz> cheater99: 2>&1
[13:47] <cheater99> ah
[13:47] <jdv> anyone know why I cant open usb drives from live cd?
[13:48] <jdv> tried to right click>mount but nothing happens
[13:48] <jdv> same if you double click the icon
[13:48] <jdv> literally, nothing
[13:48] <razor_X> ActionParsnip pm me when you are a little less hammered
[13:49] <razor_X> going out for a smoke
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you need to fix your packages, try: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -f install; sudo depmod -a; sudo apt-get install mplayer
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: any better/
[13:49] <indus> ActionParsnip: heard of silicon doc? :)
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> indus: never, what is it?
[13:49] <razor_X> ActionParsnip no its still stuck in 800X600 mode
[13:49] <indus> ActionParsnip: think and try to remember
[13:49] <racha> Its Possible to Access from Windows to Ubuntu With some Remote Desktop Software ?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: if you run: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: then set the driver to nvidia
[13:50] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/277071/
[13:50] <jdv> racha: what are you trying to do with windows from ubuntu
[13:51] <cheater99> fbianconi, i'm trying to compile cdstatus but it gives me an error...
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you havent imported the key for your repos you have added
[13:51] <racha> jdv: I Waht to get Same thing like 2 Windows with Teamveawer ...
[13:51] <razor_X> ActionParsnip reboot now?
[13:51] <racha> Want*
[13:51] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  how do i do that? i don't have the key
[13:51] <cheater99> fbianconi, configure output: http://pastebin.com/m2d0031f1 make output: http://pastebin.com/m3e377471
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: reread the guide for opera install. The key guide is there
[13:51] <cheater99> or anyone else who can tell me why this thing doesn't want to work... :)
[13:52] <codetop> Hello.  My xubuntu loads fine, but then gets to the login screen and artifacts with three smal ubuntu logo looking things at the top of my screen.  Any way to fix my configs from another tty?
[13:52] <codetop> Not three small, more like 6.
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you also need to run: sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring
[13:53] <zebastian> ActionParsnip:  this one wget -O - http://deb.opera.com/archive.key | sudo apt-key add - ?
[13:53] <cajun> I don't know whether it matters, ubuntu or kubuntu. I have Kubuntu Jaunty installed but use gnome more often. One of my users has to change his password regularly yet I have not had to myself.  Is this because he has administrative privileges?
[13:53] <cajun> should I just make him a user only?
[13:53] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: yes
[13:53] <razor_X> ActionParsnip now it only offers 640X480 and 320X210 or some thing
[13:53] <jdv> racha: sorry, I dont know.. thats a bit more complicated that just accessing a filesystem or somesuch. I'd ask on the forums
[13:54] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: now what do i do?
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: also run: gpg --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 7D2C7A23BF810CD5; gpg --export --armor  7D2C7A23BF810CD5 | sudo apt-key add -
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: with the nvidia driver in xorg.conf?
[13:55] <razor_X> ActionParsnip yes
[13:55] <fbianconi> cheater99: cvs or tarball?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: did you reboot after updating the file?
[13:55] <morpheuss> cannot mount cdrom
[13:55] <razor_X> ActionParsnip yes i did
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: then try a different nvidia driver: check: apt-cache search nvidia-glx
[13:55] <morpheuss> getting this error while installing from usb stick
[13:56] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: done
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: try installing each that ends in a number and rebooting in between
[13:56] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: now what? sudo aptitude install mplayer?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: ok now when you run: sudo apt-get update it will be smaooth
[13:57] <razor_X> ActionParsnip the driver suggested for this card is unavailable in linux
[13:57] <JohannesSM64> are logitech gamepads known to work?
[13:57] <morpheuss> cannot mount cdrom
[13:57] <morpheuss> while installing from usb stick
[13:57] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/277076/ werd
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: then change the nvidia in xorg.conf to nv and use the open driver
[13:57] <razor_X> ActionParsnip that is according to Nvidia.com
[13:57] <morpheuss> ActionParsnip, cannot mount cdrom
[13:57] <razor_X> okay
[13:57] <cheater99> fbianconi, the latest release off sf. i'm trying the svn now, we'll see what happens.
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: the repo is empty
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> JohannesSM64:  about every game pad ive ever tried has worked in Linux..
[13:58] <razor_X> ActionParsnip what should i change it to?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: http://deb.opera.com/
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> Not tried any in 9.10 yet however.
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: Driver "nv"
[13:59] <razor_X> ActionParsnip ok did that rebooting now
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> morpheuss: sudo mount /dev/sr0
[13:59] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: so what do i do?
[13:59] <Cliff`> Hi everyone ... I just installed the beta3 of 9.10 ... there are no desktop icons likje comptuer, home, network, trash .... How do I make them show up?
[13:59] <zebastian> am i missing something¿?
[13:59] <zebastian> do i have to paste something
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: remove the repo
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> !opera | zebastian
[14:00] <erUSUL> !karminc | Cliff`
[14:00] <erUSUL> !karmic | Cliff`
[14:01] <Cliff`> ok- thanks!
[14:01] <cheater99> what does it mean that it 'will break'?
[14:01] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: how do i remove the repo from the terminal¿? and isn't it necessary for opera?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: remove the opera line
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: save the new file and close gedit
[14:02] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: you know that's not from the command line!
[14:02]  * zebastian wags finger
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: can be done from cli, or alt+f2
[14:04] <zebastian> um ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/277081/
[14:04] <dsdeiz_> hi, it says unable to bind port 6600 when i run mpd.. how do i know what is using that port?
[14:05] <acostello> hey what is the codecs for videos? 32codecs or something like that
[14:05] <acostello> ??
[14:05] <llutz> dsdeiz_: netstat -tulpen
[14:05] <acostello> not vid codecs, but sound
[14:05] <cheater99> fbianconi, http://pastebin.com/m7d62f04
[14:05] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: aka i can't find hte opera line
[14:05] <yacc> Just out of curiosity, is @ a valid character in a unix username?
[14:05] <yacc> *wonder*
[14:05] <cheater99> fbianconi, still the same error. something to do with the system libraries?
[14:06] <cheater99> oh bollocks
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: check around in /etc/apt you may find a file that contains opera
[14:06] <cheater99> anyone know why i get this error when trying to compile cdstatus? http://pastebin.com/m7d62f04
[14:06] <razor_X> ActionParsnip ok i now have 800X600 but would like 1024X768
[14:07] <balsaq> !power down
[14:07] <dsdeiz_> llutz: thanks
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: you need to add a line to your screen section
[14:07] <balsaq> !shutdown ubuntu
[14:07] <dsdeiz_> this is what it says tcp        0      0 127.0.0.1:6600          0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      0          29766       -
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=777759
[14:08] <balsaq> !error console
[14:08] <morpheuss> ActionParsnip, im getting that error while installing from the usb stick
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: add the subsection in the screen sectio of that xorg.conf
[14:08] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: two files one of them looks like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/277083/
[14:08] <razor_X> i did that but i still have to scroll to see the whole screen
[14:08] <llutz> dsdeiz_: sudo netstat -tulpen
[14:08] <devil> help you on german
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: then move that file out to ~
[14:08] <devil> by Ubuntu
[14:08] <dsdeiz_> oh, it was mpd running
[14:08] <dsdeiz_> lol
[14:08] <dsdeiz_> thanks
[14:09] <kosinski> czesc
[14:09] <zebastian> º
[14:09] <frando> Hey. I have a problem with a NTFS partition and special characters. The NTFS partition contains lots of files that were copied over from another NTFS partition that have filenames with umlauts in them. They are broken, though, e.g. "kanäle.txt" shows up as "kanÃ¼le.txt".
[14:09] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: where!?
[14:09] <devil> german ubuntu irc channel
[14:09] <frando> But I can create new files with umlauts in them fine
[14:09] <sdcurlee> does anyone know of a console based email service that works with ubuntu?  pine can't be found i guess
[14:09] <balsaq> !parsing value
[14:09] <frando> so touch ä.txt && ls shows ä.txt properly
[14:09] <thiebaude> zebastian, you having a problem updating?
[14:10] <balsaq> !error
[14:10] <frando> the partition is mounted with defaults,locale=de_DE.utf8
[14:10] <razor_X> ActionParsnip rebooting
[14:10] <frando> any ideas?
[14:10] <morpheuss> ActionParsnip, im getting that error while installing from the usb stick "cannot mount cdrom"
[14:10] <jdv> I have two drives, ubuntu is installed on one, the other is currently just a ext3 filesystem. If I boot from live cd and install ubuntu on the second drive- since my first is broken- will it be ok with grub etc and allow me to boot into it?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: the file you opened, move it to home
[14:10] <zebastian> thiebaude: yes, apparently
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> morpheuss: ive not used usb to install, try asking the channel
[14:10] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: there are two files with the same content do i move them both to home folder?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: sure
[14:10] <frando> I would really like to not have to copy over the files again (it's my whole music library that was previously scattered over several different drives), and I also definitely cannot rename the files by hand.
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: if the errors go, delete them
[14:11] <thiebaude> zebastian, i had a problem udating yesterday and it said it was opera, so i took the opera enrty out of the sources.list
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: you'll need sudo to move the file
[14:11] <morpheuss> ActionParsnip, channel?
[14:11] <frando> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, googling didn't show up anything useful so far
[14:11] <thiebaude> zebastian, through update manager said it was the opera entry
[14:11] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: i just tried to drag the files to home and it wouldn't allow me to
[14:12] <zebastian> how do i get sudo privileges on the gui? ActionParsnip can i simply delete them?
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: sudo mv <file> ~/
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: or: gksudo nautilus
[14:13] <razor_X> actionparsnip still no go on the 1024X768
[14:13] <dsdeiz_> so how do i use ncmpc? i'm currently on the Browse screen and all I see is Browse: .
[14:13] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: ok i just moved those files to my homefolder, now what?
[14:14] <jdv> anyone got a clue why I cant open a usb disk in live cd?
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: sudo apt-get update
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: is it smooth now
[14:15] <razor_X> actionparsnip still no go on the 1024X768
[14:15] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: like a baby's
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: can you pastebin your xorg.conf file please
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: cool
[14:15] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: now what? sudo aptitude install mplayer?
[14:15] <razor_X> actionparsnip how do i do that?
[14:15] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: sure
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: paste the url outputted
[14:16] <razor_X> actionparsnip working on it
[14:17] <LemensTS> im having a problem with apt-get update http://pastebin.com/m37c5f6c4
[14:17] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/277091/
[14:17] <razor_X> actionparsnip http://pastebin.com/f62ed378
[14:17] <_cb> How do I restrict applications to new user. For example how would I add a new user but make it so that the new user does not have Gimp?
[14:17] <zezoz2005> http://www.vi2tu.net/uploads/test_14.htm
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: do you use a CRT monitor?
[14:18] <razor_X> actionparsnip yes
[14:18] <razor_X> actionparsnip dell 17 inch
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: here's minehttp://pastebin.com/f5337dccb  copy the monitor section details from mine to yours
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: dont change the identifier line
[14:20] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: what do i do?
[14:20] <razor_X> actionparsnip okay brb
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: so it looks like this ;) http://pastebin.com/d791f0faa
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> zebastian: not sure, you need to resolve your packages as they are a bit broken rigt now
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: update the file and reboot
[14:21] <zebastian> ActionParsnip: why does this happen, how can i fix them? it seems odd
[14:22] <adam> how do i change window manager from kde to gnome?
[14:22] <adam> im on backtrack 4
[14:22] <[[thufir]]> anyone have experience with installing the ruby gem for mysql?  there seems no documentation and the ruby guys have no idea, except for osx.
[14:22] <ikonia> Guest12585: back track is not supported here
[14:22] <Guest12585> its ubuntu
[14:22] <ikonia> Guest12585: back track has it's own support resources,
[14:22] <ikonia> Guest12585: no - it's backrack
[14:22] <Guest12585> isnt it?
[14:23] <Guest12585> its based on ubuntu
[14:23] <Pici> Guest12585: Please use their support channel: #remote-exploit
[14:23] <SandGorgon> hi guys.. i built a custom kernel for jaunty. if I install the kernel-image and kernel-headers, will they co-exist with my current kernel or will it overwrite my current configuration ?
[14:23] <ikonia> Guest12585: check out the backtrack website, it lists the support resources
[14:23] <ikonia> SandGorgon: they will go exist if they are named differently
[14:23] <rickb|server> Hello, I am running Ubuntu Server in a very windows environment.. I have named my server's hostname a network template type name and cannot ping it via hostname from windows machines.. however I can ping, ssh and ultimately access it from the IP.. Any ideas or am I forgetting something stupid?
[14:23] <SandGorgon> [[thufir]], u need to compile and build the gem.. it doesnt install through gem
[14:23] <ikonia> "co exist" sorry
[14:23] <SandGorgon> ikonia, thanks!
[14:23] <Guest12585> well what is the key combo to shutdown window manager?
[14:24] <ikonia> Guest12585: please stop asking us to support backtrack
[14:24] <ikonia> Guest12585:  you have been asked to use their support resources, please do so
[14:24] <Guest12585> im not asking you to "support backtrack" im asking you for a universal debian key combo
[14:24] <jdv> anyone got a clue why I cant open a usb disk in live cd?
[14:24] <MikeH> Does anyone here use an RT kernel?
[14:25] <ikonia> Guest12585: enough now please. I can see you've joined #remote-exploit so please use that for backtrack support
[14:25] <nicklas_> hallå
[14:25] <ikonia> jdv: on occasion
[14:25] <Cyrano_De> rickb|server: You need to add an A record for the Ubuntu server in your DNS zone
[14:25] <jdv> ctrl+alt+backspace usually, Guest12585. will restart x windows and you will lose all data unsaved if working
[14:25] <ikonia> jdv: sorry, not you
[14:25] <ikonia> MikeH: on occasion
[14:25] <ikonia> !dontzip > jdv
[14:25] <ikonia> !dontzap > jdv
[14:25] <dsdeiz_> anyone can shed me a light on how to use ncmpc?
[14:25] <MikeH> ikonia: Have you had any issues with it?
[14:25] <rickb|server> Cyrano_De: I figured it was something as dumb as that... :p thank you! I'll just idle in here because I am sure I will need more help :)
[14:26] <ikonia> MikeH: a few but mostly down to the applications tring to use it rather than the kernel its's self
[14:26] <jdv> ikonia I was answering his question :) but thanks
[14:26] <MikeH> ikonia: I've tried jaunty and karmic versions, as well as compiling my own, and I get diskio errors, on .28 the machine locks up
[14:26] <ikonia> MikeH: disk I/O errors, do you get that with the non-RT versions ?
[14:26] <MikeH> ikonia:No
[14:27] <MikeH> ikonia: I presume it has something to do with the rt scheduling
[14:27] <razor_X> actionparsnip i think we got it man
[14:27] <razor_X> actionparsnip YES!
[14:27] <ikonia> MikeH: I've not had that problem myself
[14:27] <razor_X> actionparsnip 1024X768 :D
[14:28] <_cb> Any way to limit the applications a new user has access too? For example Can I add a new user such that the new user does not have Gimp?
[14:28] <jdv> anyone got a clue why I cant open a usb disk in live cd? :((
[14:28] <MikeH> ikonia: I had a similar issue using the rt patch under centos, but journaling would die say half hour in - on ubuntu it seems far more severe
[14:28] <razor_X> thank gawd
[14:28] <[[thufir]]> SandGorgon: ok, thanks.  build the c code, you mean, with make?
[14:28] <Pici> _cb: You can use something like pessalus or sabayon (both in the repos) to lock down a user's environment.
[14:29] <ikonia> MikeH: I'd check the compatibility of your disk controller with the RT kernel as I've not seen  that problem with any RT kernel I've used on a few machines
[14:29] <_cb> Thanks Pici. Will look into that.
[14:29] <SandGorgon> [[thufir]], "ruby extconf.rb"
[14:29] <zebastian> thiebaude: are you able to help me with my packages? they seem to be broken, look: http://paste.ubuntu.com/277097/
[14:29] <SandGorgon> [[thufir]], make sure u have the mysql dev packages installed
[14:30] <thiebaude> let me check
[14:30] <jdv> my / partition is dead and I would like to save some important files to a usb drive, from a live ubuntu session, but although it recognises when I enter a usb drive, I cannot open the folder to write anything to it, attempts to mount it result in nothing.. has anyone got any suggestion?
[14:30] <SandGorgon> has anybody else built a kernel for their XPS laptops - can somebody share their .config ?
[14:30] <thiebaude> zebastian, are you able to sudo apt-get remove mplayer?
[14:31] <zebastian> thiebaude: not isntalled so not removed
[14:31] <SandGorgon> jdv, use parted-magic livecd ... grok for help on it.. it is very helpful
[14:31] <dsdeiz_> hello, i'm into ncmpc. i started it but all i get is a blank screen.. I go to browser and i see 'Browse: .'
[14:31] <dsdeiz_> how to use it?
[14:31] <jdv> Sandgorgon thanks for the tip
[14:31] <_cb> Pici one quick question. Do you know if either allow to manage by groups? For example only the offICeGroup has access to Open Office, only the GimpGroup has access to Gimp. I am trying to build a Citrix like solution using no-machine. Thanks
[14:32] <jdv> unfortunately I cannot write to a cd as my one drive is used by the live ubuntu cd
[14:32] <thiebaude> zebastian, did you sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:33] <zebastian> nope
[14:33] <zebastian> let me do it
[14:33] <Pici> _cb: I'm not sure, sorry. I'm familiar with the tools in name only, I've never had to use use them for anything.
[14:33] <thiebaude> ok
[14:33] <zebastian> thiebaude: prompt
[14:33] <_cb> Allright. Thanks for pointing me in a direction
[14:33] <thiebaude> zebastian, prompt?
[14:34] <thiebaude> zebastian, do a ctrl alt f2 into a terminal
[14:34] <zebastian> i put that input and nothing happened went back to prompt
[14:34] <zebastian> thiebaude: wait a sec and how do i come back?¿
[14:34] <pontus21> indus: are you there ?
[14:34] <thiebaude> zebastian, exit
[14:34] <thiebaude> type
[14:36] <razor_X> my problem is solved so i am gonna jet pz
[14:36] <razor_X> thank you for your patience
[14:36] <zebastian> thiebaude: what was the command again?
[14:36] <victor__> eing?
[14:36] <thiebaude> zebastian, ctrl alt f2
[14:36] <zebastian> thiebaude: did that
[14:37] <thiebaude> zebastian, sudo dpkg --configure -a
[14:37] <zebastian> thiebaude: is there a way to copy something from here unto there
[14:37] <zebastian> the ctrl v wouldn't work
[14:37] <dsdeiz> zebastian: gnome terminal?
[14:38] <dsdeiz> ctrl+shift+v?
[14:38] <huwaw69> i have a question, how can i identify if ubuntu is using my cdrom/dvdrom in terminal?
[14:38] <thiebaude> zebastian, copy and paste from text editor
[14:38] <zebastian> thiebaude: just did that and again, it simply went back to prompt
[14:38] <thiebaude> zebastian, is mplayer in synaptic?
[14:38] <mattcen> huwaw69: What do you mean "using" your cd/dvd rom?
[14:39] <Travis-42> on one of the ubuntu pages about ext4 it says that best performance is only achieved on new filesystems, not those upgraded from ext3.  How big a difference is it?
[14:39] <huwaw69> mattcen, uhmmm ill rephrase it, how do i identify my cdrom in ubuntu?
[14:39] <mikepett> I noticed by default that other user accounts on my box can access the contents of my home folder, how can I fix that?
[14:39] <thiebaude> Travis-42, ext4 is faster than ext3 for me
[14:40] <Travis-42> thiebaude: yes, but how much faster is a new ext4 filesystem vs an upgraded ext4 filesystem?
[14:40] <mattcen> huwaw69: Identify what type it is, or what device it is mapped to? Usually, whatever device it is, it is accessible via /dev/cdrom
[14:40] <zebastian> thiebaude: yes but it gives me the same output
[14:40] <zebastian> some dependencies cannot be installed
[14:40] <[pablo]> mikepett: that probably means that you have allowed access for them to read only
[14:40] <[pablo]> mikepett: you need to change permissions so they can't
[14:41] <thiebaude> Travis-42, it should be the same
[14:41] <mikepett> [pablo]: exactly
[14:41] <zebastian> thiebaude: Depends: mplayer (>= 1.0) or 	mplayer-nogui but it is not going to be installed
[14:41] <huwaw69> mattcen, i meant uhmmm identify what cdrom name it is or other informations
[14:41] <Travis-42> thiebaude: Canonical says "Maximum performance will typically only be achieved on new filesystems, not on filesystems that have been upgraded from ext3. "
[14:41] <thiebaude> Travis-42, go with that
[14:42] <Travis-42> thiebaude: I am :-), I was just trying to find out how big the performance difference was
[14:42] <[pablo]> mikepett: like, for example, chmod 700 /home/user
[14:42] <[pablo]> mikepett: would only let you and only you see the contents of that folder
[14:42] <thiebaude> Travis-42, i dont know the difference between the 2
[14:42] <[pablo]> mikepett: permissions 750 would let you and your group see, but not others
[14:43] <[pablo]> mikepett: depends what level of access you want to give to your group and to others
[14:43] <thiebaude> Travis-42, anyway 9.10 has ext4 by default
[14:43] <adac> Anyone good with accepts_nested_attributes_for and fields_for for complex forms?
[14:43] <jack007> hi everybody
[14:43] <CuBiC> hi, can anyone help me with ubuntu 9.04 and my laser mouse? my mouse speed is too fast for me, setting are already at lowest! what can i do?
[14:43] <jack007> how can i extend hard drive of virtual box in ubuntu
[14:43] <thiebaude> zebastian, i ran out of ideas to try
[14:43] <adac> ups wrong channel =)
[14:43] <Finnish> How do I write to a pdf-file?
[14:44] <mikepett> [pablo]: I just don't want anyone else to be able to see my home folder... that being said, I don't want to create issues with software I'm running while logged into my account from seeing and writing to my home folder.
[14:44] <thiebaude> !pdf
[14:44] <Finnish> thiebaude: But I cannot modify it?
[14:45] <nils_> this is weird, I am partitioning with the alternative installer and it wants me to partition an encrypted volume... It should instead be using it as whole...
[14:45] <mikepett> [pablo]: so it appears that chmod 700 is what I want, so that would be "chomod 700 /myusername/home" while from terminal
[14:45] <mattcen> huwaw69: A little bit of information can be found via dmesg, but I'm not sure where else you can find anything...
[14:45] <thiebaude> Finnish, im not sure all i do is view pdf files in it
[14:45] <[pablo]> mikepett: chmod 750 /home/user should be enough too, the software you run has the same priviledges as yourself, so it won't affect
[14:46] <nils_> ah it's just my stupidity striking again
[14:46]  * thiebaude sorry im a noob too,lol
[14:46] <mikepett> [pablo]: sweet, thanks for your help!
[14:46] <mikla> does IE working via wine?
[14:46] <[pablo]> np
[14:46] <CuBiC> anyone an idea how to make my laser mouse slower? settings are already at lowest.
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> Finnish: aiword and openoffice have the ability to export to PDF. You also have a PDF printer you can use to print from anything else
[14:47] <mattcen> Finnish: You can print files to a PDF file by default often.
[14:47] <thiebaude> mikla, i tried ie4linux
[14:47] <mattcen> Finnish: The print dialogue for Gnome for example, has a "print to file" option, which allows you to specify a PDF file as the output.
[14:47] <mikla> thiebaude, so its posible? gonna check
[14:48] <turtle_> hi, i am trying to use a different wm because my machine is slow, but when i select it (icewm or openbox) at the login screen it still loads the default
[14:48] <zezoz2005> http://www.vi2tu.net/uploads/angile2008_1.htm
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> CuBiC: http://www.x.org/wiki/Development/Documentation/PointerAcceleration#head-863ae9c52fe3658e800daa0e93d3e434190b732d
[14:48] <thiebaude> mikla, i dont know about ie8 bit ie6, yes
[14:48] <thiebaude> but
[14:48] <mikepett> one other thing I've been trying to figure out lately but can't seem to find the answer too is... I have two account on my computer (one for kids and one for me), since they are the primary users I have their account set to auto login, but sometimes I want to log into my account, is there a way to stop the auto-login with a key combo during boot so I can log in? right now I'm logged into their account, logging out, and then logging in wi
[14:48] <mikepett> account, kind of a pain.
[14:48] <legend2440> Finnish: http://www.wikihow.com/Edit-PDF-Files-in-Linux-Using-PDFEdit
[14:48] <[pablo]> Finnish: you can use Sun's import PDF extension for openoffice.org, and modify it -- check link http://www.sun.com/software/staroffice/extensions.jsp#pdfimport
[14:49] <[pablo]> mikepett: if there is, I don't know it... unless you enter interactive boot mode, which is a pain anyways
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> CuBiC: you can use xorg.conf to override HAL. Here is mine with laser mouse: http://pastebin.com/f593c59d
[14:49] <Finnish> But I need to modify or write to a normal "paper" thats pdf
[14:50] <Finnish> Ok, thanks
[14:50] <Boohbah> mikepett: could you teach your kids to login through GDM?
[14:50] <mattcen> mikepett: You should be able to just bypass auto-login. If you specify a few seconds of timeout, and then you can start typing your own username, and it will stop the autologin... how are you doing it?
[14:50] <Boohbah> mikepett: and then disable auto-login
[14:51] <parabyte> hello
[14:51] <mikepett> Boohbah: I could, but it's unnessary, I just like to make things as simple as possible.
[14:52] <mikepett> mattcen: sounds like what Im looking for, where would I specify a few seconds of timeout?
[14:52] <CoUrPsE> How can i enable mysql to other pc's on my network, i've googled and got responses that tell me to edit files that dont exist.
[14:52] <^Boy^> que es esta mierda de red
[14:52] <^Boy^> xD
[14:52] <CuBiC> ActionParsnip: Thank you, i'll try to override, because HAL seems not to following my rules. ;)
[14:52] <jimmy51_> !es | ^Boy^
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> CuBiC: get it told :D
[14:52] <mikepett> mattcen: right now, I'm logging into there account and then logging out (which takes me to the login screen) at which time I can enter my login credentials and login to my account.
[14:52] <Boohbah> mikepett: you can specify the timeout in the login manager configuration, same place where you set it up
[14:53] <danilo__> oi
[14:53] <parabyte> hi i was wondering where i can find someone to port a 64bit linux driver to 32bit linux driver,
[14:53] <mattcen> mikepett: Well, assuming you're using GDM (the default login manager for Ubuntu; I'm not sure of your technical knowledge so I'm going to start really simple :P), you can go to the System menu -> Administration -> Login Window
[14:53] <danilo__> preciso de ajuda
[14:53] <Pici> !es | danilo__
[14:53] <Boohbah> !es > danilo__
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> parabyte: whats the driver for?
[14:53] <parabyte> pci fm transmitter
[14:53] <mattcen> mikepett: Then under the Security tab, you should see the auto-logon. Below that there's a timeout section.
[14:53] <parabyte> pcimax
[14:53] <parabyte> here is a url http://code.google.com/p/pcimaxfm/
[14:54] <parabyte> for the linux driver
[14:54] <mikepett> Boohbah: mattcen: cool, I think I can handle that! Thanks!!
[14:54] <parabyte> it just doesnt compile on 32bit
[14:54] <mattcen> mikepett: Good luck!
[14:54] <ActionParsnip> parabyte: if its source you will compile 64bit drivers
[14:54] <parabyte> i mean id be willing to make a donation to someone via paypal if they can get it running on 32bit linux
[14:54] <parabyte> ActionParsnip, hang on ill get the error message
[14:55] <zezoz2005> http://www.vi2tu.net/uploads/angile2008_1.htm
[14:55] <parabyte> rds.c:1: error: code model ‘kernel’ not supported in the 32 bit mode
[14:55] <DuncanM[Ubuntu]> does anyone have any experience with cairo-dock?
[14:55] <parabyte> thats the error message on compilation of the code
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> parabyte: then set it to 64bit
[14:55] <Guest18857> we geht es ?
[14:55] <zebastian> ¿What is older KDE or GNOME?
[14:55] <mamooli> hello does anyone know where i should put gedit's plugins in a defult intalation?
[14:56] <parabyte> im not running a 64bit system im trying to compile that code on a 32bit system
[14:56] <parabyte> ActionParsnip, did you see the url i posted?
[14:56] <Guest18857> i can see the light
[14:57] <john345> et.sextracker.com
[14:57] <Boohbah> zebastian: KDE. GNOME began as an alternative to the restrictive QT license of the time.
[14:57] <parabyte> ActionParsnip, is there anywhere in the code i can change it for 32bit kernel??
[14:57] <mamooli> does anyone know where i should put gedit's plugins in a defult intalation?
[14:58] <Guest18857> i can see the laser rayon
[14:58] <mikepett> [pablo]: i accidentally chmod 700 entire /home directory instead of /home/myusename... do you know what the default is for the /home directory so I can change it back. :)
[14:58] <[pablo]> mikepett: 755
[14:59] <Guest18857> probably it's a mistake
[14:59] <fnordperfect> hi! is someone here using Ubuntu (or a derivate) on an Acer Aspire One? I'm having unbearably slow graphics lately (I can almost watch the pixel lines beeing drawn). I've tried so much, but cannot figure out what's wrong..!
[14:59] <mikepett> [pablo]: wheeewww. thanks again, computer wouldn't do anything! fixed!
[14:59] <[pablo]> =)
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> parabyte: not sure, you'd have to contact the project to see what the deal is
[15:00] <parabyte> yeah i have done, they not interested in the 32bit platform
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> parabyte: really? wow thats pretty poor
[15:00] <alwaysdeployed> whats going on?
[15:00] <parabyte> i know!
[15:00] <fnordperfect> I presume it's some of these intel/MTRR issue I keep reading about. Could someone please explain that to me?
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> parabyte: ask them for help and say you'd be happy to make 32bit for them :D
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> 64 sorry
[15:01] <mattcen> mamooli: Check out http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins#third_party
[15:01] <parabyte> ill say ill amke em sloppy code
[15:01] <parabyte> lol
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> whichever
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> hahaha
[15:01] <fnordperfect> i.e., the AspireOne has 512MB RAM, which is shared with the video chip, right? now, the way the MTRRs are set is that they define a range of 256MB *beyond* 512MB, does that make sense?
[15:02] <LemensTS> im having a problem with apt-get update http://pastebin.com/m37c5f6c4
[15:02] <alwaysdeployed> anyone know of a good gui client for xmms2 ?
[15:03] <tj83_> hey guys i have asked this question before here, and Kino was suggested many times I am looking for light and simple video editor for pretty much just making youtube vids.... Kino i think is a nice app as for ease of use, but my video quality is always pretty bad in the end even tho the data size is large.... any other suggestions?
[15:03] <preetam> i have recently upgrade to ubuntu 8.10. Now my system is not storing the display setting of nvidia-settings permanently in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. everytime i reboot i have to change the setting.can anybody help me.
[15:03] <zebastian> is it possible for kde and gnome to merge into one project?
[15:03] <fnordperfect> tj83_: avidemux is quite good
[15:03] <tj83_> preetam, your doing as a root user in nvidia-settingss? "gksu nvidia-settings"
[15:03] <mattcen> preetam: Make sure that you start nvidia-settings as root when you want to change the settings, otherwise you don't have permission to change /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:03] <mamooli> mattcen: the problem is i dont have such a folder
[15:04] <mattcen> mamooli: Then create it.
[15:04] <mamooli> look i have already added some plugins
[15:04] <preetam> yes yes i am changing the setting with sudo nvidia-settings command
[15:04] <Russski> hello everybody
[15:04] <mamooli> mattcen: but i have forgotten where it was
[15:04] <tj83_> preetam, check the permissions on the file as well.
[15:04] <Russski> mo¿e ktos po polsku mówi? :P
[15:04] <mattcen> mamooli: It's likely some of them can be installed as root, in a common directory. I don't know where that is though. I'll have a quick look
[15:05] <Pici> !pl | Russski
[15:05] <LjL> !pl | Russski
[15:05] <mattcen> mamooli: /usr/share/gedit-2/plugins
[15:05] <Russski> ok sorry :P
[15:05] <mamooli> mattcen: thank you
[15:05] <mattcen> mamooli: No problems.
[15:05] <Russski>  /usr/share/gedit-2/plugins
[15:05] <cciRRus> how do i install a sound theme?
[15:06] <someguy> Hi
[15:06] <someguy> I'll try and keep this simple.
[15:06] <someguy> I have a main computer with Ubutnu and Vista installed as a dual boot.
[15:06] <someguy> I have a laptop with a blank hard drive, a CD drive that doesnt work and can't boot from USB. Thus no way to install anything.
[15:06] <someguy> I take the laptop hard drive out of the laptop and connect it to my main pc using a IDE to USB cable, windows views it as an external hard drive.
[15:06] <someguy> I run the wubi installer and install to the laptop hard drive.
[15:06] <FloodBot1> someguy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:06] <someguy> It doesnt run on the laptop as there is no boot manager.
[15:06] <VCoolio> cciRRus: probably extract in /usr/share/sounds
[15:06] <cciRRus> oh no... i was hoping for an easier way
[15:07] <someguy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/277124/
[15:07] <VCoolio> cciRRus: ? extract on your desktop, open terminal and "sudo cp -r soundtheme /usr/share/sounds"
[15:07] <cciRRus> ok will do
[15:07] <mamooli> mattcen: can i ask one more question?
[15:07] <riz0n> Hello, I have eggdrop on ubuntu, and need some information about setting them up to automatically start when the server starts. how can i set these eggdrops up to do this?
[15:08] <mattcen> mamooli: go ahead. I'll probably go to bed soon, but ask anyway.
[15:08] <s4mukt> E ae galera
[15:08] <mamooli> mattcen: as i live in Iran, i need a proxy like freegate to navigate the web, do you know any which works on ubuntu and firefox?
[15:08] <s4mukt> blz??
[15:09] <s4mukt> ALGUEM BR????
[15:09] <noraguz10> hi hows
[15:09] <noraguz10> it going
[15:09] <DJones> !br | s4mukt
[15:09] <s4mukt> algum Brasileiro???
[15:09] <cciRRus> ok i've copied the sound folder over to usr share, but inside sound preferneces i couldnt see the sound theme
[15:09] <huwaw69> is firefox 3.5 in ubuntu shiretoko also?
[15:10] <VCoolio> cciRRus: maybe extracting in ~/.local/share/sounds works too, no root permission needed
[15:10] <noraguz10> ca
[15:10] <cciRRus> crap... the Mac4Lin sound theme lacked index.theme
[15:10] <noraguz10> ca
[15:10] <cciRRus> hmmm
[15:10] <mattcen> mamooli: No I don't... I don't know anything about freegate at all
[15:11] <cciRRus> how do i assign F10 to "show desktop"?
[15:11] <mamooli> mattcen: or any other knd of proxy?
[15:11] <iMatt> hey! Which FTP client do you recommend?
[15:11] <cciRRus> i couldnt find the option in compiz settings manager
[15:11] <sfantu> hello there seems to be a proble with update
[15:12] <VCoolio> cciRRus: system > preferences > keybinding prefs or shortkeys or something
[15:12] <mattcen> mamooli: You *could* try Tor
[15:12] <cciRRus> ok tks
[15:12] <sfantu> hello there seems to be a problem with update manager
[15:12] <sfantu> sorry
[15:12] <arvind_khadri> sfantu, explain the problem
[15:12] <sfantu> Could not initialize the package information
[15:12] <sfantu> An unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[15:12] <sfantu> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[15:12] <sfantu> 'E:Encountered a section with no Package: header, E:Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/ppa.launchpad.net_specto_ppa_ubuntu_dists_jaunty_main_binary-amd64_Packages, E:The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.'
[15:12] <mattcen> mamooli: http://www.torproject.org/ I'm not sure if it's what you're looking for
[15:12] <FloodBot1> sfantu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:13] <arvind_khadri> !ftp | iMatt
[15:13] <iMatt> !gftp
[15:13] <iMatt> !FTPd
[15:13] <noraguz10>                                           can someone help me out with a    n ins    ta    l    l    at    ion probl    em?
[15:13] <noraguz10>        
[15:13] <preetam> i have checked the permission it is  -rw-r--r--  1 root root
[15:14] <preetam> that means root has permission to write into the file
[15:14] <moochm> Is anyone here knowledgable about tomcat5.5 on ubuntu.. i can't seem to get it working
[15:14] <XFA>  Vote1 XFA | http://andclan2.comlu.com/index.php?site=polls
[15:14] <LemensTS> I cant get apt-get to work some reason  http://pastebin.com/m37c5f6c4
[15:14] <tj83_> preetam, yes it does.
[15:15] <tj83_> preetam, I dont know why your settings are not keeping, nvidia-settings allows you to "merge" with the existing file, or back it up and create a new... try the new file method as this is not default when you save settings to xrog.conf
[15:15] <arvind_khadri> sfantu, open the terminal and run sudo aptitude update
[15:15] <preetam> then why does the system stores the display setting permanently once i change it.everytime  i reboot first i have to change the display setting
[15:15] <moochm> basically I've got tomcat5.5 an tomcat5.5-manager installed but I receive a 403 when I try to reach localhost:8180
[15:15]  * tj83_ brb
[15:16] <preetam> hai tj83 can you sendme any hyper link to analyse the issue
[15:16] <noraguz10> my s
[15:18] <noraguz10> my disk stop instlling at 61 percent, it also stops spinning what can i do about it?
[15:19] <Gersacom> hola, alguien habla español
[15:19] <JeoTheLeo> which logfile should I look for to know the reason ubuntu keeps restarting?
[15:19] <Pici> !es | Gersacom
[15:20] <moochm> theres like a million ppl here and not much <3
[15:20] <Gersacom> gracias
[15:20] <JeoTheLeo> !restart
[15:20] <JeoTheLeo> !logfiles
[15:20] <JeoTheLeo> :S
[15:21] <jimbeam12> hey all
[15:21] <JeoTheLeo> hello
[15:22] <noraguz10> can someone help me :( my vista finally took a poo, and i popped in this ubuntu disk a friend gave me a while back but it wont install
[15:22] <JeoTheLeo> hmmmm
[15:22] <resno> noraguz10: is in your bios is it set to boot off cd?
[15:23] <tj83_> preetam, you have already basically analyzed the situation, did you try saving to a new conf file as i suggested yet? you can /join #seaphor for 1-1 , i'm working so in/out . and more importantly i dont suggest 8.10 to ANYONE lol.
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> noraguz10:  you are in ubuntu right now? or on windows?
[15:23] <noraguz10> yea my problem is it wont install past 61% and then my disk stops spinning at that point as well
[15:23] <noraguz10> hmm im not su
[15:23] <noraguz10> re\
[15:23] <noraguz10> \
[15:23] <FloodBot1> noraguz10: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> noraguz10:  sounds like you may have a faulty cd.
[15:24] <legend2440> preetam: not sure if it will make a difference but you should use  gksudo nvidia-settings  not sudo
[15:25] <jimbeam12> hey dr.willis wsup today
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> jimbeam12:  getting ready for bed. :)
[15:25] <cwraig> /j #moblin
[15:25] <jimbeam12> what !!!!! still early..
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> jimbeam12:  i work 3rd shift.
[15:25] <jimbeam12> wow.
[15:25] <jimbeam12> get some whiskey and sleep
[15:26] <Balsaq> when i click on my error console and then click on the warning tab...i get LOTS of warnings?
[15:26] <sfantu> i just did
[15:27] <Balsaq> does anyone know anything about these warnings? things like error in parsing value for property text align and stuff like that?
[15:27] <freenose> Hi, to install a minimal configuraction of ubuntu without gnome, should I use the server install?
[15:27] <tj83_> freenose, yes
[15:27] <Balsaq> i clear the warning and they dont seem to effect me in any way?
[15:28] <tj83_> freenose, i suggest 8.04 server over others still
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> freenose:  theres other ways to do a minimal 'desktop' without doing the server instgall
[15:28] <freenose> tj83_: I see, this is for a laptop
[15:28] <freenose> Dr_Willis: What other ways?
[15:29] <tj83_> freenose, ah, so your still wanting a GUI just not gnome? maybe xbuntu?
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> freenose:  what desktop do you want to use?
[15:29] <freenose> tj83_: openbox
[15:29] <freenose> Dr_Willis: no desktop, just a WM
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> freenose:  a 'server' install has some sever specific tweaks you may not want.
[15:29] <Balsaq> error console on my ubuntu 8.10 always has warnings?
[15:30] <Pici> Balsaq: Error console for what?
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> freenose:  you could always just install openbox and use it - on ubuntu...
[15:30] <freenose> Dr_Willis: I see, so.. how do you do a minimal desktop?
[15:30] <freenose> hmm ok
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> freenose:  or xubuntu,  since you will still want most of the gnome-related 'config/support/whatever tools'
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> I just install ubuntu, then install whateer window manager i want.
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> or several of them :)
[15:31] <freenose> Dr_Willis: This is an old machine with 10 GB hard drive :/, wanted to save space
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> 10gb is plenty.
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> I run ubuntu gnome on 4gb.
[15:31] <Balsaq> (pici)good question, nebie here, i was exloring my browser stuff and i clicked on "tools" and chose "error console" and wholly smokes  i got tall these warnings about text, alignment...all kinds o ghtem got a few now
[15:31] <freenose> Dr_Willis: gnome takes up to much space
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> freenose:  then remove the parts you dont want. You will want some of the gnome tools/config tools unless you really are going hard core.
[15:32] <freenose> tj83_: yeah, my bad, I should have said 'desktop'
[15:32] <acostello> freenose: if you dont like gnome, what about xfce?
[15:32] <panopticon> will gnome 2.28 be added to any updates for juanty, or only for the 9.10 release?
[15:32] <coldflame23> openbox :)
[15:32] <tj83_> freenose, as acostello and Dr_Willis suggested give xbuntu a try
[15:32] <freenose> Dr_Willis: yeah, hard core, all CLI
[15:32] <Dr_Willis> !jeos
[15:33] <freenose> acostello: I'll give it a try
[15:33] <Balsaq> (pici) example...i have an error on property value for cursor....whatever that means
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> freenose:  theres that  (unsupported here) variant called err.. crunchbang. it comes with fluxbox.
[15:33] <Dr_Willis> freenose:  i also saw work on (unsupported here) 200mb or so gnome-light variant
[15:33] <freenose> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I saw it, actually it uses openbox :)
[15:33] <freenose> wanted to go official
[15:34] <Balsaq> i think the error console is part of the firefox browser rather than 8.10
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> Install ubuntu.. install oopenbox.. remove other junk.
[15:34] <Dr_Willis> thats the way to do it then
[15:34] <freenose> Dr_Willis: yeah, looks like it
[15:35] <freenose> Dr_Willis: I just hope I won't break much during uninstall ;)
[15:35] <dsdeiz> !info swiftweasel
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> this is linux.. if you do.. you fix it
[15:35] <tj83_> Balsaq, ya know the term "if it aint broke, dont fix it?" lol you said you were not experiencing trouble so i'd just roll with it :) and 8.10 is the least of all versions i trust to be stable
[15:35] <dsdeiz> oh,
[15:35] <Dr_Willis> You arte not going to gain much space by removing stuff i imagine
[15:35] <freenose> xubuntu will be easier to remove :)
[15:35] <marco__> salu a tous
[15:36] <JeoTheLeo> Dr_Willis, do you know which log files should I open to know the reason ubuntu restarts spontaneously?
[15:36] <Balsaq> tj83: i'm sure i agree with you but when you see them its like what the heck is that?
[15:36] <Dr_Willis> JeoTheLeo:  not a clue.
[15:36] <JeoTheLeo> ah
[15:36] <WonderfunkJones> I'm having issues getting sound to start on 9.04, I pulled my soundcard out to see if it would recognize my onboard, but no deal.  Any assistance?
[15:37] <JeoTheLeo> the best graphics card for linux is nvidia, right?
[15:37] <VCoolio> someone knows a firefox userChrome.css hack to change a 2px line that is appearing between menu and title bar?
[15:37] <tj83_> WonderfunkJones, i assume you checked for muted channels?
[15:37] <JeoTheLeo> most compatible etc?
[15:37] <huwaw69> i just want to ask if ubuntu/canonical would provide me with free Cd's in my country to promote there products, for free? also... and if yes how?
[15:37] <Balsaq> tj83: no need to take up anyones time on it, but i thought it might be an easy one...something dumb that everyone with experience knows aboout,apparantly not...no biggie
[15:37] <JeoTheLeo> huwaw69, ask....go on ubuntu.com and ask the suppliers
[15:37] <tj83_> Balsaq, yea sorry i really just dont know
[15:38] <WonderfunkJones> tj83_: I know it's more than that, I don't think any sound device is loaded at all...I try to test ALSA/OSS and I just get errors.
[15:38] <freenose> tj83_: are new drivers backported to 8.04 server?
[15:38] <vigo> huwaw69: One moment....
[15:38] <jimbeam12> later
[15:38] <huwaw69> JeoTheLeo, do you know there e-mail address? i cant seem to find it in there site :D sorry
[15:38] <tj83_> freenose, no
[15:39] <vigo> huwaw69: Here: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[15:39] <freenose> tj83_: so 8.04.3 server is just updated packages?
[15:39] <tj83_> WonderfunkJones, i would start with getting info from lspci and then google your specific hardware and ubuntu version, you will likely make some hits.
[15:39] <freenose> and bugs
[15:39] <JeoTheLeo> http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/contactus
[15:39] <huwaw69> ill try this one vigo  thanks
[15:39] <tj83_> freenose, yes, security and major bug fixes
[15:39] <WonderfunkJones> you know I believe I may have it disabled in the bios, I'll try that first.
[15:40] <huwaw69> its just one CD vigo?
[15:41] <Rosey> Okay I am trying to get my wireless to work. The driver says: activated but not in use. How do I get this to work?
[15:41] <vigo> huwaw69: You can request more, postage may and usually does apply.
[15:41] <preetam> hai cananybody suggest me whether i should go for upgradation from ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04 or not
[15:41] <zorael> Is there any way to disable a specific usb port via the kernel boot line?
[15:42] <huwaw69> vigo ill try it again thanks again :D
[15:43] <Joe42> Im having problems installing or running the 64  bit on my laptop
[15:43] <huwaw69> vigo, i found this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam
[15:43] <ctmjr> Rosey: do you have network-manager installed
[15:44] <ubuntu> org
[15:44] <Rosey> I don't know, lol
[15:44] <Boondoklife2> preetam: are you having issues with 8.10 or is there something in it you like? if not then dont.
[15:44] <Rosey> i think so
[15:44] <Rosey> Yes I do
[15:45] <preetam> no i do not have any issue with ubuntu 8.10. 'but is there any issue with the ubuntu 9.04. actually i am eagirly waiting for 9.10.
[15:45] <ctmjr> Rosey: on your top panel you should have an icon for network
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> preetam:  may as well wait then. :)
[15:45] <boondoklife> preetam: Well I always stick with if it isnt broke dont fix it myself. but that is in the production environment.
[15:46] <Rosey> Yes I've looked there but there isn't any options for adding a wireless network, etc
[15:46] <JRc> any other software like libfprint that supports other devices?
[15:46] <Rosey> I have an ethernet plugged in
[15:46] <JRc> libfprint doesnt support my device
[15:46] <preetam> no no i am talking about my laptop..
[15:46] <preetam> even that is fear i have that is why i have not upgraded the 8.04 lts version to 8.10
[15:46] <boondoklife> preetam: in that case as long as you are backed up then give it a go, you can always reinstall 8.10 if ya need to
[15:47] <preetam> recently i upgrade it to 8.10
[15:47] <freenose> preetam: wait for 9.10 and do a fresh install
[15:47] <WonderfunkJones> tj83_: onboard audio is enabled, I just don't have any sound devices
[15:47] <boondoklife> preetam: just make an image before you do it and your fine.
[15:47] <tj83_> WonderfunkJones, not even from lspci?
[15:47] <zebastian> !programming
[15:47] <preetam> image means
[15:47] <zebastian> is there a channel for programming?
[15:47] <WonderfunkJones> tj83_: No lspci does list it, there's nothing in Sys/Prefs/Sounds though
[15:48] <resno> zebastian: you mean developers?
[15:48] <ctmjr> Rosey: ok open a terminal and type this ifonfig -a and look for a wireless device should something like wlan0 ath0
[15:48] <WonderfunkJones> tj83_: I'll pastebin the error I get
[15:48] <boondoklife> preetam: sorry, basicly it is a snap shot of your system the way it is. I prefer clonezilla to do it.
[15:48] <cheater99> hey guys, one of the special effects turned on in ubuntu (when i'm switching windows) is very cpu intensive. how do i turn off just that, without messing up anything else?
[15:48] <zebastian> resno: to learn about programming
[15:48] <tj83_> ok, well WonderfunkJones your search starts there. take lspci info for sound to google and include ubuntu version info you should make some kits.
[15:48] <resno> zebastian: what do you mean learn about programming?
[15:48] <zebastian> or a command on here that will list all the available channels
[15:48] <ctmjr> Rosey: should ifconfig -a
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> cheater99:  install the 'ccsm' tool and tweak it all you want
[15:48] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | cheater99
[15:48] <boondoklife> preetam: if you do that then if 9.04 isnt you, all you have to do is restore the image and your right back to where you are now
[15:49] <cheater99> i have that
[15:49] <zebastian> resno, i am a boon to computing and linux and i want to learn programming in ten years
[15:49] <freenose> Where can I check what kernel is 8.04 server using?
[15:49] <Dr_Willis> cheater99:  then start exploring that amazingly complex   config tool. :)
[15:49] <tj83_> freenose, uname -a
[15:49] <JeoTheLeo> tc all
[15:49] <chadwin> e
[15:50] <preetam> how to make an image..does this image contain all the application program that i have installed on the current system.
[15:50] <freenose> tj83_: I don't have it installed
[15:50] <resno> zebastian: there are hundreds of languages, i guess go to developers irc
[15:50] <Rosey> Okay I don't see any of those. I have eth0, lo, and pan0
[15:50] <zebastian> resno, is that on this server¿
[15:50] <tj83_> freenose, ubuntu 8.04 i think is 2.6.24-xx
[15:50] <boondoklife> cheater99: you can also use simple-ccsm
[15:50] <cheater99> i turned off fading windows but it's still on. how do i go about that, Dr_Willis ? :)
[15:51] <Dr_Willis> cheater99:  no idea. I tend to turn off most everything...
[15:51] <bp5109> i long ago, installed lookwise which allows Active Directory accounts to log into a Linux box.   It didn't work as planned and I uninstalled it.  Upon doing so, all screen lockers will lock, but will fail the authenticate me when i wish to log back in and i have to switch to a tty to kill the locker (this goes for xlock, xscreensaver, kdedesktop_lock, and even locking Gnu Screen).   Should I be able to completely remove PAM (purge all
[15:51] <resno> zebastian: i suppose
[15:51] <cheater99> Dr_Willis, my problem is that i turned off the effect, but it's still on..
[15:51] <jean_> where is snd-usb-audio. I have jaunty here. I need it to get an external usb sound card M-audio mobilepre working apparently
[15:51] <resno> !developers | zebastian
[15:51] <zebastian> resno, whats the channels name
[15:51] <resno> zebastian: not sure, check the site
[15:51] <ctmjr> Rosey: then your wireless is not enabled do you know what nic you have
[15:52] <legend2440> zebastian: what language are you interested in?
[15:53] <zebastian> legend2440: python, ada
[15:53] <resno> zebastian: go to python.org
[15:54] <vigo> huwaw69: and this one: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ActivismGuide?action=show&redirect=ActivismHowTo
[15:54] <legend2440> zebastian: #python   #ada
[15:54] <huwaw69> thanks vigo :P
[15:54] <vigo> yw
[15:55] <zebastian> legend2440:  it says i need to be identified to join that channel
[15:55] <zebastian> how do i join that
[15:55] <Rosey> ctmjr: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01302310&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&product=3648284
[15:55] <cgroza> hello ,i want to learn advanced terminal comands...i want to know to do everything in terminal...where can i do that?
[15:55] <vigo> !TUI
[15:55] <vigo> whoops
[15:56] <grawity> cgroza: Most of it you learn by experimenting, and by googling everything that you don't understand. But start with the 'man' command, and with the tutorials at http://tldp.org/
[15:56] <vigo> cgroza: Look at the Forums, and get a few books.
[15:57] <cgroza> THANKS
[15:57] <ccooke> cgroza: the trick to learning to use the terminal is just to play with it. Set yourself some tasks you'd like to learn how to do, then experiment
[15:57] <cgroza> ccooke,thanks
[15:57] <parabyte> hi any here good with c++
[15:57] <zebastian> what language is linux written in?
[15:57] <parabyte> im trying to compile this driver for a fm transmitter
[15:57] <soreau> zebastian: C
[15:58] <zebastian> soreau:  is that a good language to start learning¿?
[15:58] <soreau> parabyte: What is the problem?
[15:58] <ccooke> zebastian: The kernel is C and assembler. The user portion uses many different languages
[15:58] <zebastian> or should i read into python
[15:58] <Pici> !offtopic | zebastian
[15:58] <parabyte> well i can get a driver to compile
[15:58] <soreau> zebastian: Depends on what you want to do
[15:58] <vigo> cgroza: and learn rsync or something like that.
[15:58] <dsdeiz> i downloaded swiftweasel, so how can i have dmenu list swiftweasel?
[15:58] <ccooke> vigo: ssh and screen, too :-)
[15:58] <soreau> ! who parabyte
[15:58] <cgroza> vigo,what is rsync?
[15:59] <soreau> ! who | parabyte
[15:59] <vigo> !backup | cgroza
[15:59] <ctmjr> !wifi | Rosey
[15:59] <synackfin> does anyone know of a (light-weight) program to view a CSV file in columns?
[15:59] <Rosey> thanks
[15:59] <cgroza> vigo,in case i mess up everything?
[15:59] <raphink> synackfin: cut ?
[15:59] <Mrokii> hi. Not sure if that's the right channel, but I just found out that Gnome-Do is using 1.3 GB of my memory. That sounds quite rediculous and I wondered if there anybody knows if there are bugs that cause is or if there's a reason...
[16:00] <vigo> cgroza: Yes, plus it is good practice if hardware fails.
[16:00] <parabyte> im just talking to everyone in general
[16:00] <raphink> synackfin: or column rather :)
[16:00] <synackfin> rapthink: cut only views 1 column
[16:00] <parabyte> soreau, im just compiling it
[16:00] <cgroza> vigo,thanks
[16:00] <parabyte> 2 secs
[16:00] <raphink> synackfin: use column -s
[16:00] <legend2440> parabyte: i think this person had same problem as you. he had to install a 64 bit kernel to get it to work  http://www.pcs-electronics.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=9516&sid=e73c521327aef8d629014f1a987afab5
[16:00] <vigo> cgroza: you are quite welcome.
[16:00] <parabyte> im running 32bit hardware
[16:00] <raphink> synackfin: for example if your separator is ";", do : `cat $yourfile | column -s';' -t`
[16:01] <WiZz3> Hi, can anyone help me with my netgear wg111v2 usb adapter.. im trying to install a windows driver using ndiswrapper but it will not connect ?
[16:01] <parabyte> here is the error im getting on trying to compile the driver on 32 bit kernel
[16:01] <grawity> raphink: useless use of 'cat' award :)
[16:01] <parabyte> rds.c:1: error: code model ‘kernel’ not supported in the 32 bit mode
[16:01] <Halitech> WiZz3, did you use the win xp driver?
[16:02] <parabyte> thanks for the url legend2440
[16:02] <WiZz3> Halitech: yes
[16:02] <parabyte> :)
[16:02] <raphink> grawity: yes indeed, but well ;)
[16:02] <synackfin> rapthink: thanks, that works
[16:02] <eirikb> When I make a folder that I want some users to access, but not all, I make a group and add all to the group. But I must use newgrp to set the used group as "main" group on each user to make it work?
[16:02] <raphink> synackfin: `column -s"$yousep" -t "$yourfile"`
[16:02] <Halitech> WiZz3, try the windows 2000 driver, I had the v3 version and the xp driver wouldn't work but works fine with the w2k driver
[16:02] <raphink> synackfin: as grawity said, it's cleaner ;)
[16:02] <grawity> eirikb: No, newgrp is not necessary for file permissions to work.
[16:03] <WiZz3> Halitech: ok i'll try it thanks
[16:03] <eirikb> grawity: I see, then I did something else wrong. Thanks :)
[16:03] <grawity> eirikb: Or maybe not.
[16:03] <parabyte> how much would it cost me to pay someone to modify the driver
[16:04] <grawity> eirikb: If you changed user's groups _after_ he has logged in, then your changes would not take effect until the next login OR until the user did 'newgrp'.
[16:04] <eirikb> grawity: Aha!
[16:05] <eirikb> grawity: I did not log in/out
[16:05] <jetienne_> !usb
[16:06] <chadwin> hey guy wich is better..debian or ubuntu??? and why??
[16:06] <zugiart> hello all
[16:06] <eirikb> grawity: Do you know how I can remove shell from users? I was hoping this group-access could help me create users for mercurial using ssh (but I don't want to give everyone shell)
[16:06] <raphink> synackfin: not that it will only work for simple csv files
[16:06] <Dr_Willis> chadwin:  try them both and see what fits your needs best.
[16:06] <grawity> eirikb: Try setting the shell to /sbin/nologin or to /bin/true
[16:06] <chadwin> thats a nice idea!!
[16:06] <grawity> eirikb: It might not work though...
[16:06] <chadwin> lol
[16:06] <raphink> eirikb: you can use scponly for that
[16:06] <zugiart> q - if I have one machine with my perfect ubuntu setup in there and I wish to clone it to another machine of similar hardware, what is the best method to do this?
[16:06] <Halitech> chadwin, you come into an Ubuntu support room and ask which is better between Ubuntu and Debian? going to be slanted towards Ubuntu in mind
[16:06] <jean_> snd-usb-audio and M-audio anyone can help here
[16:06] <eirikb> grawity: I set it to /dev/null, and I tried remove-shell command, but it was still possible to ssh in
[16:07] <zugiart> that is, what is the best way to clone an ubuntu installation?
[16:07] <eirikb> raphink: I'll take a look at it, thanks
[16:07] <nils_> which is better? Car or Motorcycle?
[16:07] <chadwin> haha
[16:07] <genii> !clone | zugiart
[16:08] <Halitech> chadwin, personally I think Ubuntu is doing a great job of converting people and making it easier but I prefer Debian over Ubuntu
[16:08] <jetienne_> q. how to install ubuntu from a usb key with only window to start with
[16:08] <zugiart> by he gods of penguins, genii thanks for that, I will definitely give it a spin!
[16:09] <raphink> eirikb: if you go for scponly, use it in chroot mode and tune your chroot to only have the command you need
[16:09] <zugiart> but genii, now that I have observed the commands, this only copies the packages description, and not the actual packages themselves, meaning that for each clone I will have to download all of the 'deltas' ?
[16:09] <eirikb> raphink: Ok, thanks
[16:10] <fccf> jetienne_: https://launchpad.net/win32-image-writer/+download
[16:10] <fred-frog> hallo
[16:10] <cognitiaclaeves> I'm having an issue where my screen appears to lock up -- save for mouse movement ( the cursor moves ) and the Ctrl+Alt+F1 keystrokes.  Anyone heard of this?
[16:10] <zugiart> it'll work well for backup & setup tho so thx anyway
[16:10] <hydoskee> hey - so I'm having this issue where every new window I open is maximized - anybody have any idea where to fix that?
[16:10] <IpSe_DiXiT> yo how do i go back if i do something wrong? talking about renaming in nautilus, ctrl+z doesnt work and under edit there's no undo
[16:10] <jetienne_> fccf: Thanks looking
[16:10] <parabyte> http://code.google.com/p/pcimaxfm/
[16:10] <fred-frog> i have a problem with wlan
[16:10] <parabyte> thats the url for the code im having problems with
[16:10] <parabyte> wont compile on 32 bit linux
[16:10] <WiZz3> Halitech: installing the win2000 drivers didn't seem to solve my problem..
[16:10] <cognitiaclaeves> Also, I'm looking for a way to switch off compiz with an applet or keystroke.  Is there an animal that can just switch it off and on at will?
[16:11] <parabyte> rds.c:1: error: code model ‘kernel’ not supported in the 32 bit mode
[16:11] <Halitech> WiZz3, card is being seen by lspci?
[16:12] <dsdeiz> swiftweasel or swiftfox? which should i choose? :D
[16:12] <daurnimator> how do you mount a drive when the partitions weren't made into devices; I have /dev/sdd, and fdisk shows it has one ntfs partition over the whole drive; but theres no sdd1
[16:12] <grawity> daurnimator: Does it even have partitions?
[16:12] <daurnimator> grawity: should.... fdisk showed it was ntfs
[16:13] <grawity> daurnimator: If there's only one partition over the entire thing, then it might not even have a partition table. (Almost all USB pendrives are like that.)
[16:13] <IdleOne> daurnimator: it could be one big 500Gig ntfs drive
[16:13] <grawity> daurnimator: So try just 'mount /dev/sdd /media/blah' and it might work.
[16:13] <daurnimator> I checked that
[16:13] <daurnimator> it does actually have partitions :)
[16:14] <vtec> Hello my sound is working just fine except in flash videos. How can I fix that?
[16:14] <nils_> hmm maybe the kernel didn't read the partition table?
[16:14] <daurnimator> well, I actually hotswapped it in (sata)
[16:14] <Joe42> dont play flash vid?
[16:14] <daurnimator> but other drives show up properly
[16:14] <masquerade> vtec: how do you view the flash videos? in your browser etc..?
[16:14] <masquerade> Joe42: lol
[16:14] <vtec> yes masquerade in firefox
[16:14] <Keiffer> Hi. Can you help me please? every time, when i am installing software, ubuntu sais the software can't be authenticated. I remember that accidentaly i deleted the gpg keys..
[16:14] <quantumlemur> vtec: I fixed that simply by going to the adobe site and installing flashplayer 10r32
[16:14] <alecbr> Hi.  I've got an easy one.  My Network Connection indicator that shows up after initial install , next to the clock is missing.  How do i get it to show on the top task bar, next to the clock?
[16:15] <nils_> daurnimator, kpartx -a /dev/sdd might work (that's how I did it for a multipath device)
[16:15] <masquerade> did you install flash support extra?
[16:15] <IdleOne> !flash
[16:15] <daurnimator> nils_: I don't have kpartx, any standard utils that do it?
[16:16] <nils_> daurnimator, writing the partition table in fdisk will re-read it
[16:16] <vtec> Package 'flashplugin-installer' is already installed
[16:16] <daurnimator> vtec: ok :)
[16:17] <vtec> my sound doesn't work though
[16:17] <masquerade> alecbr: right-click on the channel and select "add to panel.."
[16:17] <masquerade> alecbr: there, you should find the right widget
[16:17] <BezNalogov> Hello people. VLC gives all the time an error that libavcodec lacks the encoder for mpeg AAC audio. I found a guide on internet that said that I should install ffmpeg from the medibuntu repo, I did that. But I still get this error. How can I install this codec?
[16:18] <Nirkus> hi! is there some convenient command to switch from gcj to sun-java6-jdk in 8.04 LTS?
[16:18] <Pici> Nirkus: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[16:18] <synackfin> rapthink: also, is there an editor/viewer that lets me horizontally scroll the entire screen instead of just horizontally scrolling one line (nano and vi seem to only horizontally scroll a single line)
[16:18] <alecbr> masquerade: it's not there.
[16:19] <masquerade> alecbr: what exactly are you searching for again? the little icon that displays the network status?
[16:19] <Dr_Willis> BezNalogov:  you did remove the ffmpeg from the normal repos first?
[16:19] <Pici> Nirkus: or update-java-alternatives
[16:19] <Nirkus> Pici: and ill have to do this for each and every symlink concerning java stuff within /etc/alternatives?
[16:19] <Nirkus> ahh
[16:19] <alecbr> Masquerade: yeah.. it's the one where you can right click and EDIT CONNECTIONS.
[16:19] <Nirkus> :)
[16:19] <masquerade> mhm, alright, one second..
[16:20] <alecbr> masquerade: it was there and then I connected a second monitor and the next time I used single monitor it wasn't there.
[16:20] <Pici> Nirkus: I'm not sure if the second one existed on 8.04, otherwise you'll need to do the first for each java alternative type javac, etc.
[16:20] <cognitiaclaeves> I tried installing a compiz switch (fusion-icon), and it doesn't work.  Is there something in ubuntu that is similar?
[16:20] <BezNalogov> I think so, but I'll check to be sure
[16:20] <daurnimator> hmmm, fdisk is stuck on writing the partiton table to disk
[16:20] <IdleOne> !ccsm | cognitiaclaeves
[16:21] <cognitiaclaeves> Is there an icon that just switches it on and off?
[16:21] <Nirkus> Pici: update-java-alternatives seemes to have worked
[16:21] <Nirkus> thanks :)
[16:21] <masquerade> alecbr: cant help you with this, im sorry. what do you need it for?
[16:21] <ret> http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/linuxblizzard1
[16:21] <cognitiaclaeves> ( I think it's crashing under specific circumstances. )
[16:21] <Pici> ret: This is a support channel, please don't advertise  or post offtopic links here.
[16:21] <IdleOne> !info fusion-icon
[16:21] <katycorp> hey guys, does anyone know a way I can purge evolution and then reinstall it without reinstalling gnome desktop environment?
[16:21] <alecbr> masquerade: i thought it would be EASY.  I need it for editing connections quickly. thanks for your help anyway.
[16:22] <ret> Pici: it's for a good cause >.>
[16:22] <IdleOne> cognitiaclaeves: apt-get install fusion-icon should work
[16:22] <Pici> ret: Its offtopic for this channel.
[16:23] <soreau> cognitiaclaeves: Does it work if you try compiz --replace in your terminal?
[16:23] <masquerade> alecbr: thanks. see you
[16:23] <cognitiaclaeves> IdleOne: Ok.  Now we are getting somewhere.  It doesn't.  I get "ImportError: No module named compizconfig" ... hey that's a python error.  Maybe it's looking for python-compizconfig, then...
[16:23] <cognitiaclaeves> ( Nope, already installed and the latest version. )  Maybe it's a python version issue, then...
[16:24] <fita> a
[16:24] <IdleOne> cognitiaclaeves: #compiz might be more help
[16:24] <cognitiaclaeves> Ok.  I'll check there.
[16:25] <fita> qysh me bo bre
[16:25] <cognitiaclaeves> soreau: Not sure what you mean.  I'm running compiz, just want to be able to quickly turn it off and on at will.
[16:25] <masquerade> cognitiaclaeves: i didnt hear the previous conversation, but id simply use metacity --replace and compiz --replace for this
[16:27] <synackfin> is there a nice light-weight csv viewer,  that can pin the 1st row (headers), and let me smoothly scroll horizontally and vertically?
[16:27] <ctmjr> cognitiaclaeves: there use to be an icon that turned compiz on and off but i believe fusion icon replaced it which has more features
[16:29] <DkoNissper> hey gys does anyone knows how to get the extra plugins for compiz..like those when you open and close menus and windows???
[16:29] <IdleOne> !ccsm | DkoNissper
[16:30] <DkoNissper> i all ready did it
[16:32] <valaki> hi
[16:33] <sky_1> hi my USB device is not mounted
[16:33] <sky_1> how do i mount it ?
[16:33] <masquerade> sky_1:  did you correctly unmount it the last time?
[16:33] <sky_1> i dont know
[16:33] <grawity> sky_1: Find out the device name (usually /dev/sd[letter][number], 'dmesg | tail' might have hints)
[16:34] <sysadmin> REF1="http://blog.taragana.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/overglossed.jpg"                                      I downloaded a theme "Overglossed" and it was supposed to look like <REF1> but I dont get all the transparency effects and the sidebar.
[16:34] <sky_1> grawity: i think its not detected :X
[16:35] <BezNalogov> Yes, I have the right version of ffmpeg from medibuntu, still I get an error in VLC that libavcodec is missing the mpeg aac audio encoder
[16:35] <sysadmin> REF1="http://blog.taragana.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/overglossed.jpg"                       \n               I downloaded a theme "Overglossed" and it was supposed to look like <REF1> but I dont get all the transparency effects and the sidebar.
[16:36] <sysadmin> REF1="http://blog.taragana.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/overglossed.jpg"                       \n ^ 2              I downloaded a theme "Overglossed" and it was supposed to look like <REF1> but I dont get all the transparency effects and the sidebar.
[16:37] <jean_> where do I get snd-usb-audio
[16:37] <ctmjr> BezNalogov: there is a channel for vlc do not know if they are awake or not most are french #videolan
[16:37] <jackson_> cvb
[16:37] <llua> sysadmin,  you have to enable transparency by compiz
[16:38] <SeekerNL> how can you play hd video on linux?
[16:38] <cognitiaclaeves> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/compizconfig.so   fixed my issue with python 2.5 being the default and fusion-icon not working.
[16:38] <sysadmin> how to get compiz
[16:39] <cognitiaclaeves> ( after first cd'ing into /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages )
[16:39] <llua> sysadmin,  synaptics
[16:39] <jackson_> add remove simple ccsm for compiz
[16:39] <TheOne1> Hi
[16:39] <jean_> Is snd-usb-audio module no longer comes with ubuntu
[16:40] <jean_> does anyone sees my posts?
[16:40] <sysadmin> [note: i'm a new user 'sysadmin' just for style] ;)
[16:40] <BezNalogov> They say it's not a VLC issue, but an ubuntu issue, the codec is missing. So then I wonder how to install the aac codec
[16:41] <sysadmin> right installed compiz, what next?
[16:42] <riz0n> Hey guys, i am a crontab newbie, and need some help setting up my eggdrops to automatically start when the server boots. Can someone help me setting up crontab to do this? Thanks.
[16:42] <zebastian> can i install csh on ubuntu?
[16:42] <jackson_> check out its effects from d panel
[16:42] <janhaj> hello.. is here anybody, who have tv tuner gigabyte U8000 under linux?
[16:42] <sysadmin> jackson_, how to run it?
[16:43] <grawity> zebastian: Try 'sudo apt-get install csh'
[16:44] <MenZa> !anyone | janhaj
[16:44] <janhaj> excuse my english, i am from czech republic..
[16:44] <Pici> riz0n: 'man 5 crontab' should explain the syntax well. You can use @reboot to tell it to run at boot.  I'm not sure when cron is in the boot up, so it may make more sense to put your command in rc.local.
[16:44] <Alex_Brooks> Hey, I've got version 8.04.1-desktop on disc and I'm planning on installing it to my desktop, but will I be able to update it to 9.04 from within Ubuntu.
[16:45] <jackson_> system>>pref>>compiz mgmr
[16:45] <sysadmin> its not there
[16:45] <riz0n> Pici: can i have multiple commands under crontab?
[16:45] <Pici> Alex_Brooks: You can, but you'll need to upgrade through 8.10 first.
[16:45] <Pici> riz0n: Sure. Generally you put one 'job' per line.
[16:46] <Alex_Brooks> Pici, so I'll need to go from 8.04->8.10->9.04.
[16:46] <riz0n> ok i  am having the crontab execute under a secondary user.
[16:46] <Pici> Alex_Brooks: Yes
[16:46] <riz0n> is there anything i need to do to specifically guide ubuntu to read this users crontab file
[16:46] <Alex_Brooks> Okay thanks a Pici :)
[16:46] <jackson_> type compiz inadd remove
[16:46] <jackson_> type compiz and install it
[16:47] <sysadmin> jackson_, I did that
[16:48] <jackson_> is compiz appearing in preferences then
[16:49] <testking> ????
[16:49] <ed0n0n> Something eats my disk space in Jackalope, I boot with 60Gb free space and I already have just 9Gb free, I am just editing text files and not using any large file, but it happens anyway... Why could this happen?
[16:49] <sysadmin> nope
[16:49] <soreau> sysadmin: sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects <- set to extra
[16:49] <Halitech> ed0n0n, what does df -h show you?
[16:50] <testking> you can try dh -i
[16:50] <testking> df -i
[16:50] <sysadmin> yeah already set
[16:50] <sysadmin> i observe the inertia of rest in the windows
[16:50] <ed0n0n> right now %94 used
[16:50] <jackson_> try that sysadmin
[16:51] <Halitech> ed0n0n, df -h should show where the space is being used
[16:51] <ed0n0n> Halitech: It happens with /dev/sda2
[16:51] <Pici> ed0n0n: If you are using Gnome you can use the tool from Applications>Accessories>Disk Usage Analyzer to determine what is using up the space.
[16:51] <janhaj> Does anyone know, how can i watch DVB-T with tv tuner Gigabyte U8000 in ubuntu 9.04?
[16:51] <Halitech> ed0n0n, where is /dev/sda2 mounted?
[16:52] <ed0n0n> in /
[16:52] <sysadmin> any more ideas
[16:52] <testking> Tinkpad Lenovo
[16:52] <Halitech> ed0n0n, ok, just as a guess, do df -h /var
[16:52] <sysadmin> (just a little fact: this system got a gma900 not a graphics card)
[16:53] <ed0n0n> Halitech: /dev/sda2              83G   75G  4,5G  95% /
[16:53] <linuxguy2009> Hey guys I use a live CD session to open synaptic and mark all upgrades, then i generate a download script and run the script to manually download all of them. When I go into a fresh install and run "sudo dpkg -i *.deb" they all install ok I guess but I always have trouble with packages simaler to "language-pack-en_9.04+20090803.2_all.deb" the system always wants to download the same package even though I already have it. Does anyone know why?
[16:53] <ed0n0n> Halitech: so some kind of logs can eat so much space?
[16:53] <tyfj> how to solve ssh time out, when ssh client behind NAT router ?
[16:53] <sysadmin> (just a little fact: this system got a gma900 not a graphics card, if that helpez)
[16:53] <Halitech> ed0n0n, yup, use natilus to go into the logs folder and see which one is getting big
[16:53] <ctmjr> janhaj: did the drivers for it get loaded?
[16:54] <Halitech> ed0n0n, or ls -l /var/log
[16:55] <janhaj> ctmjr: i think yes, but when i scan for tv (w_scan -X >> cz or in kaffeine), it doesn't find anything..
[16:55] <ed0n0n> Halitech: /var/log is not using more than Mb, not Gb, so it doesnt seem to be the cause
[16:56] <aar> Hi, the PDFs I download from Google Books show the text but not the images. Does anybody know why this is happening? (Kubuntu 9.04)
[16:56] <ed0n0n> Halitech /var/ is using 1.7 Gb
[16:56] <Halitech> ed0n0n, ok, use the same command ls -l /var and see if any large files show up there
[16:57] <sysadmin> (just a little fact: this system got a gma900 not a graphics card, if that helpez)
[16:57] <sysadmin> (just a little fact: this system got a gma900 not a graphics card, if that helpez)
[16:57] <sysadmin> (just a little fact: this system got a gma900 not a graphics card, if that helpez)
[16:57] <sysadmin> (just a little fact: this system got a gma900 not a graphics card, if that helpez)
[16:57] <FloodBot1> sysadmin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:57] <ctmjr> janhaj: you might need firmware for it run this dmesg | grep firmware
[16:57] <ed0n0n> but something has "eaten" 20Gb since boot, and it is not in /var/ because its just 1,7Gb... i guesss
[16:58] <whileimhere> Hi I have set up my parents computer and they have some issues with it. I would like to be able to just take control of their computer from my house. Is there a way to do this on ubuntu?
[16:58] <sysadmin> (just a little fact: this system got a gma900 not a graphics card, if that helpez)
[16:58] <sysadmin> (just a little fact: this system got a gma900 not a graphics card, if that helpez)
[16:58] <sysadmin> (just a little fact: this system got a gma900 not a graphics card, if that helpez)
[16:58] <sysadmin> (just a little fact: this system got a gma900 not a graphics card, if that helpez)
[16:58] <sysadmin> (just a little fact: this system got a gma900 not a graphics card, if that helpez)
[16:58] <FloodBot1> sysadmin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:58] <Halitech> ed0n0n, still, 1.7gig is alot in /var unless you have a website running out of there
[16:58] <ed0n0n> Halitech: /var/ is  Ok
[16:58] <shan> hello
[16:59] <shan> help topic irc
[16:59] <metalf8801> whileimhere: yes can use VNC to do that
[16:59] <ctmjr> janhaj: DO NOT SEND ME FILES!!!!!!!!
[16:59] <Halitech> ed0n0n, ok, well only guess is to start looking at individual directories then and see ... there is an app that will show you in a graph but I can't think of the name right now ... disk usage analysis maybe?
[16:59] <whileimhere> metalf8801: do I need it installed on my machine and theirs or just mine?
[16:59] <metalf8801> whileimhere: there are several different kinds of VNC
[17:00] <ed0n0n> I am scanning the whole filesystem with the Disk Usage Analyzer... Lets see... Any more ideas?
[17:00] <metalf8801> whileimhere: one sec let me find a link for you
[17:00] <sdcurlee> in gnome the terminals can zoom in and out (text size) is there anything you can do to reduce text size in the tty1-6?
[17:00] <Halitech> whileimhere, both on ubuntu?
[17:00] <linuxguy2009> Anyone here do manual package management such as homemade repos CD/DVD?
[17:00] <whileimhere> Halitech we are now both using Ubuntu
[17:00] <whileimhere> I replaced Windows on my parents comp this morning
[17:00] <janhaj> ctmjr: i want send you dmesg..
[17:01] <Halitech> whileimhere, there is remote desktop installed by default I believe
[17:01] <ctmjr> !paste | janhaj
[17:01] <grawity> sdcurlee: The VTs tty1-6 (tty1-64 actually) are using the good old text mode by default - not graphics. You might try enabling framebuffer mode ('modprobe vesafb' or something), then it'll use graphics mode, in the screen's native resolution.
[17:01] <grawity> sdcurlee: Without framebuffer, they will always use 80x24.
[17:01] <janhaj> ctmjr: thx http://paste.ubuntu.com/277202/
[17:02] <metalf8801> whileimhere: the first thing I would try is this http://showmypc.com/ use the java version that works on Linux
[17:02] <sdcurlee> grawity: i really appreciate this, i will try that.
[17:03] <whileimhere> When the RDP asks for the name of the computer and its not on my network how can I figure out what it is?
[17:03] <grawity> whileimhere: Use the IP address instead?
[17:03] <synackfin> anyone know how to make `less` not wrap?
[17:03] <ed0n0n> Halitech: I read this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7991873 and now I think it may be that I created a symlink to another ntfs partition, could that be doing something wierd?
[17:03] <whileimhere> oh well that I would need to go to their house to get anyways
[17:03] <whileimhere> They have no clue
[17:04] <grawity> sdcurlee: And there's this command 'setfont' - it isn't very useful in textmode (with all the limitations), but on framebuffer you can choose even the font size.
[17:04] <metalf8801> whileimhere: you don't think you could walk them though that on the phone?
[17:04] <Halitech> metalf8801, thats only to view, software to show is windows only
[17:04] <whileimhere> lol you have to know my parents
[17:04] <ja> siema
[17:05] <Halitech> ed0n0n, not sure, it could
[17:05] <metalf8801> oh my bad
[17:05] <Halitech> whileimhere, you should be able to use the IP address of their computer, are they behind a router?
[17:06] <whileimhere> yes but its no biggie I will drive over later
[17:06] <Halitech> whileimhere, make sure you set up port forwarding on the router as well to allow the connection
[17:06] <ed0n0n> Halitech: I have 97% used... while chatting soon I will need to reboot, this is serious. Help me users
[17:07] <janhaj> ctmjr: and here is wscan.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/277206/
[17:07] <Halitech> ed0n0n, when you reboot the space frees up?
[17:07] <ed0n0n> yes!
[17:07] <Methose> after an apt-get install freetds-common, should I not be able to run the tsql command?
[17:07] <boondoklife> ed0n0n: is it the chat program that is eating it? did you check top to see what is going on?
[17:07] <ed0n0n> is the weirdest thing happened in a long while
[17:08] <Halitech> ed0n0n, reboot and immediately open a terminal and run dmesg | tail and see if it gives any clues
[17:08] <ed0n0n> boondoklife: I havent been using the chat for a while... so I dont think so
[17:08] <boondoklife> ed0n0n: check top to see what is eating the computer
[17:09] <opp> thinkpad w500 uses x86 or amd64 arch ? thanks
[17:09] <metalf8801> whileimhere: you might want to look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC/Clients
[17:09] <ed0n0n> boondoklife: I can check with top, but gives the CPU usage, but how can I check the HD usage in realtime?
[17:09] <ed0n0n> dmesg returns nothing of interest
[17:10] <tntcoda> hi, if ive made a .deb file for some software im releasing, can/how do i go about getting it in the ubuntu repos?
[17:10] <genii> tntcoda: Enquire in #ubuntu-motu about that
[17:10] <tntcoda> thanks
[17:11] <Ian_> I've managed to add an item to the gnome menu system wide but where is it specified wich menu catagory it's in?
[17:11] <MikeH> Anyone with experience of RT Kernels able to offer any insight on this- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/435940
[17:11] <vigo> opp: If is not listed on the Hardware sections, (I am still looking) then join #hardware if no one in the room knows.
[17:11] <ctmjr> janhaj: it acts like it is working a you sure you have good reception? and you can try me-tv and see if it scans for channels
[17:12] <ed0n0n> I started happening recently and most likely since I installed Shiretoko 3.5.4pre in Ubuntu, it is the main CPU 'eater' and is this soft stable? (%98 used :( )
[17:13] <vigo> opp: It worked with 8.10: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1004523, still looking
[17:13] <boondoklife> ed0n0n: if you kill it then your proc drops to norm?
[17:14] <ed0n0n> I f I kill it I kill the chatzilla too..., but HD usage doesnt come back until reboot
[17:14] <opp> vigo: I want to know what version of Desktop cd should I download: x86 or amd 64? thanks
[17:15] <boondoklife> ed0n0n: you can install iotop which will let you monitor disk io
[17:16] <smarks> opp       use x86
[17:16] <urthmover> What is the keyboard combination to invert screen colors?
[17:16] <ed0n0n> boondoklife: good one, didnt know about
[17:16] <vigo> opp: According to this forum. (no authentication) it says 64 works. http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=329176
[17:16] <janhaj> ctmrj: when i start me-tv, it ask for searching channels.. but when i want choose by location, it gives error no such file or directory.. and goot
[17:16] <boondoklife> ed0n0n: but just tells you what app is using it, not where or to what file so kinda limited
[17:16] <Ian_> I've managed to add an item to the gnome menu system wide but where is it specified wich menu catagory it's in?
[17:17] <janhaj> ctmjr: we have a tv with integrated dvb-t tuner and it works..
[17:17] <ed0n0n> boondoklife: installed and trying
[17:17] <VCoolio> Ian_: in the .desktop file, the launcher for you app
[17:17] <dehqan> good day everyone , how to install falsh 9 activex on ubuntu ?
[17:17] <Halitech> opp, according to the lenovo site, they are all dual cores so you should be safe with the 64bit http://shop.lenovo.com/SEUILibrary/controller/e/web/LenovoPortal/en_US/catalog.workflow:category.details?current-catalog-id=12F0696583E04D86B9B79B0FEC01C087&current-category-id=EC3A24B73CCE493BB1C514421A9BB0B7
[17:17] <ed0n0n> activex? lol
[17:18] <genii> dehqan: Thats not going to happen anytime soon
[17:18] <dehqan> genii with wine ,where can find .exe file ?
[17:18] <ed0n0n> activeX is a Microsoft thing, not usable in any Linux, as far as I know... You could try with Wine and ie4linux
[17:18] <opp> Halitech thx
[17:19] <riz0n> how do i make a users crontab process when linux is started?
[17:19] <dehqan_> good day everyone , where can falsh 9 activex .exe file be found ?
[17:19] <edoceo> riz0n: as that user say `crontab -e`
[17:19] <ed0n0n> can it be kjournald???
[17:19] <edoceo> dehqan_: .exe fiels only runon  Windows
[17:19] <riz0n> edoceo: i have done that, but it still does not run when the server is restarted
[17:19] <dehqan> edoceo with wine ...
[17:19] <eggmanpete> .
[17:19] <edoceo> So, to install Flash to Ubuntu you need a .deb file
[17:19] <vigo> Ian: System>Preferences>Main Menu , I think that is what you are looking for.
[17:20] <Pici> !flash | dehqan
[17:20] <Halitech> dehqan, have you downloaded the file yet or are you looking to find out where to download it from?
[17:20] <edoceo> Oh, WINE - I'm out, sorry - maybe the Adobe site has an DL for you?  get.adobe.com?
[17:21] <dehqan> halitech see here  has been mentioned to install flash 9 activex , http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=329668&sid=74cff0dfbb56bb1578d0fc9d8b8390e5
[17:21] <ed0n0n> boondoklife: I think it is AVG antivirus, has just written a bunch of Mb and Im nearly in 100%, why does this program it so much space? Do you recommend any other equivalent antivirus for linux? (Just in case :D )
[17:22] <ctmjr> janhaj: you should have a dir with freqs for your country look in /usr/share/dvb and see if you have anything in there it might be in a diff location
[17:22] <vigo> !AV
[17:22] <boondoklife> ed0n0n: clamav but i agree with ubottu
[17:22] <kimera> ciaooo
[17:22] <kimera>  aiuto
[17:23] <vigo> I agree with boondoklife.
[17:23] <Halitech> dehqan, no idea what they are talking about, I've heard of flash and I've heard of activeX but not flash activeX
[17:23] <kimera> mi servono le password per aprire i file rar
[17:23] <ed0n0n> boondoklife: I know its pretty safe not using any, but... You can spread infections around when using "mistery" files
[17:23] <lewench> Hello. When trying to insert my SD card on Ubuntu 9.04 I am getting this error: Cannot get volume.fstype.alternative    I don't know what to do. I checked google but the SD card is a fat32 My fstab for this device is: /dev/sdc1       /media/cdrom0   iso9660,udf user,noauto,exec,utf8 0       0
[17:24] <vigo> !it
[17:24] <dehqan> halitech there has been written  Install flash9 activeX. Use a standalone installer. If you don't know where to get one then ask google. If you're still blurred then get one from oldapps.com/oldversion.com. Don't miss this step as this is REQUIRED for ym.
[17:24] <boondoklife> ed0n0n: true, but I personally just make it a rule of thumb to not open things unless I know what they are. and definitely dont forward them =)
[17:24] <Halitech> dehqan, I read that but I have no idea what they are talking about
[17:24] <dehqan> halitech there has been written  Install flash9 activeX. Use a standalone installer. If you don't know where to get one then ask google. If you're still blurred then get one from oldapps.com/oldversion.com. Don't miss this step as this is REQUIRED for ym.
[17:24] <dehqan> halitech it may mean flash 9
[17:24] <ed0n0n> boondoklife: I will simply use freshclam now on and hope this solves the disk problem...
[17:24] <Pici> dehqan: Are you using Ubuntu?
[17:25] <Halitech> dehqan, I read that but I have no idea what they are talking abou
[17:25] <happy_> Good evening everyone
[17:25] <dehqan> yes pici
[17:25] <Pici> dehqan: Are you running ym under wine?
[17:25] <happy_> Good evening everyone
[17:25] <mikepett> any ideas on why network manager is disabled every other boot?
[17:25] <dehqan> pici yes
[17:25] <ed0n0n> but honestly AVG does detect viruses ClamAV doesnt
[17:25] <boondoklife> ed0n0n: also make sure if it has a background scan option to kill it. That will save you problems. just scan on demand.
[17:25] <Pici> dehqan: Then its probably best to ask in #winehq on how to proceed. Thats the official support channel for Wine.
[17:26] <dehqan> pici in this link has been told install flash 9
[17:26] <ed0n0n> boondoklife: I will uninstall it for now...
[17:26] <dehqan> install flash 9 is related to winehq ?
[17:26] <ed0n0n> boondoklife: I need to get my HD space back ;)
[17:26] <Halitech> dehqan, its also talking about Puppy linux which is NOT Ubuntu
[17:26] <Pici> dehqan: You'd need to install a browser and flash under wine as well.
[17:26] <janhaj> ctmjr: i don't have folder dvb in /usr/share/ :/
[17:26] <Ian_> trying that now vigo
[17:26] <shane2peru> ok, I want to rename a bunch of files containing numbers 124-150 to have a 7 before the number, how can I do this with rename in cli?  rename -v 's/??/??/' *
[17:26] <Ian_> thank
[17:26] <Ian_> s
[17:26] <vigo> yw
[17:27] <dehqan> ok is that mean installing flash 9 .exe ?
[17:27] <jrib> shane2peru: do you know about regular expressions?
[17:27] <dehqan> ok is that mean installing flash 9 .exe with wine
[17:27] <Pici> dehqan: Yes.
[17:27] <Halitech> !flash | dehqan
[17:27] <shane2peru> jrib: a little, I'm not sure what the replacment expression should be.
[17:27] <shane2peru> jrib: is it $1?
[17:27] <jrib> shane2peru: do you know how to match digits?  Yeah either $1 or \1 it varies...
[17:27] <genii> dehqan: Anything which is Windows-specific like ActiveX (which does not exist on Linux) and needs Wine to use, you should enquire about in the oficial wine support channel, which is as pointed out,  #winehq
[17:28] <jrib> shane2peru: try with -n first
[17:28] <bucky> dehqan what are you going to run flash 9 .exe  in... IE ?
[17:28] <dehqan> a windows version should be installed or linux one ?flash 9
[17:28] <vigo> How do I get Icecat installed?
[17:28] <shane2peru> jrib: yeah, that is what I was thinking
[17:28] <shane2peru> jrib: I'm pretty good at deciphering examples,
[17:28] <dehqan> halitech there has been written  Install flash9 activeX. Use a standalone installer. If you don't know where to get one then ask google. If you're still blurred then get one from oldapps.com/oldversion.com. Don't miss this step as this is REQUIRED for ym.
[17:29] <mikepett> ok, then if I'm going to have to accept ubuntu randomly starting network manager when ever it feels like it... is there a script I can create that I can save on my kids login desktop (they are not member of sudo group) so they can click and run the script if the network decides not to star when they login?
[17:29] <shane2peru> jrib: ahh, looks like $1 is what I want:  http://tips.webdesign10.com/how-to-bulk-rename-files-in-linux-in-the-terminal
[17:29] <bucky> dehqan oh it's that yahoo messenger thing?
[17:29] <Halitech> dehqan, I read that but I have no idea what they are talking about
[17:29] <dehqan> sorry halitech .
[17:29] <bucky> Halitech, http://208.109.22.214/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=329668&sid=74cff0dfbb56bb1578d0fc9d8b8390e5
[17:29] <XDS2010> whats the latest dev. version of ubuntu ?
[17:29] <andrew__> hi all
[17:29] <XDS2010> 9.04 ?
[17:29] <Pici> !karmic | XDS2010
[17:29] <dehqan> yes bucky
[17:29] <XDS2010> ty pici
[17:30] <bucky> XDS2010, 9.10  /join #ubuntu+1
[17:30] <Halitech> bucky, as I've said to dehqan, I read that but I have no idea what they are talking about
[17:30] <biowizar1> XDS2010: :D slovacisko sa nezapre
[17:30] <steve64> very new to this.....just loaded ubuntu and everything works fine except playing videos in web pages??  dan anyone help?
[17:30] <Ian_> vigo: that didn't work
[17:30] <IdleOne> !flash | steve64
[17:30] <Halitech> !youtube
[17:30] <XDS2010> hey my political alarm went off this morning looks like has been confirmed to take the late senator ted kennedy 's seat, anyone know anything about this guy? http://Tr.IM/MhloPK ?
[17:30] <XDS2010> ???
[17:30] <andrew__> linux ftw
[17:30] <holy> When I install new Ubuntu system to another partition of the HDD, I sometimes can not copy files from my old home directory. Shall I change permissions of the directories and files to reach them?
[17:30] <jrib> !ot | XDS2010
[17:30] <genii> dehqan: Flash player for Linux doesn't have ActiveX. Because as already explained (quite often) Linux does not have ActiveX, it is a Microsoft Windows-only thing. So you need to enquire in the Wine support channel about something like installing Windows Flash (which may have ActiveX in it) into the Wine program
[17:31] <steve64> thanks, I will try the links
[17:31] <holy> "sudo chmod 777 file1 file 2 ..." would be OK?
[17:31] <zebastian> will chrome run on wine?
[17:31] <andrew__> M$ SUCK
[17:31] <ed0n0n> boondoklife: It was definetely the AVG (avg85flx package) wich was eating my hard disk... Cheers for that iotop trick :D Thanks for your help
[17:31] <dehqan> genii where can win flash activex be found ?
[17:31] <steve64> flash says it's already installed?
[17:31] <holy> zebastian: try "#winehq"
[17:31] <vigo> Ian_: Ok, stil searching on that one, and other things, what version are you on?
[17:32] <IdleOne> andrew__: that may be true but how is it relevant?
[17:32] <boondoklife> ed0n0n: glad ta help
[17:32] <iceroot> zebastian: imo there is a linux version (beta imo)
[17:32] <Komischung> is it possible to start the gnome-shell in 9.10?
[17:32] <jrib> !karmic | Komischung
[17:32] <gOLDfeesh> andre____, it's good to express your opinion but to be completely honest, what did you first start on before linux?
[17:32] <vigo> mikepett: Maybe this will help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto
[17:32] <netbook> does anyone use irssi?
[17:32] <genii> dehqan: /join #winehq                 and then ask in there
[17:32] <zebastian> iceroot: can't find it on google, do you have alink?
[17:32] <jrib> netbook: someone probably uses it, better to just ask your question
[17:32] <andrew__> lol i was just saying , as people keep asking for active X
[17:33] <netbook> jrib, cool. In irssi how do you scroll up in the chat window
[17:33] <gOLDfeesh> is there a reason as to why all my modules get installed at /lib/modules/2.6.28.10/extra instead of the normal /lib/modules/2.6.28-15-generic/extra?
[17:33] <dehqan> thanks everyone
[17:33] <jrib> netbook: probably page up or shift-page up
[17:33] <bucky> Komischung, usually from under the Applications=>Accessories menu
[17:33] <netbook> jrib haah it is was the other way around
[17:33] <jrib> netbook: http://irssi.org/documentation/startup
[17:33] <netbook> jrib page up scrolls up
[17:34] <netbook> thanks
[17:34] <Ian_> vigo: It's for jaunty installs
[17:34] <IdleOne> zebastian: www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-chromium-google-chrome-in-ubuntu-using-deb-package.htm
[17:34] <Ian_> but i'm using karmic myself
[17:34] <iceroot> zebastian: sory, just read that on heise that there is a nativ version for linux
[17:34] <netbook> yea i have been reading that, must have missed that part
[17:34] <bucky> andrew__ there was a petition to macromedia for it once
[17:34] <jrib> netbook: search for "scroll" :)
[17:34] <ctmjr> janhaj: sudo apt-get install dvb-apps then look for the dir again
[17:34] <iceroot> zebastian: http://www.google.com/chrome/intl/en/linux.html
[17:34] <mikepett> vigo: thanks, but I don't want the script to run everytime, just when ubuntu decides not to start network manager
[17:34] <zebastian> iceroot: so it CAN be installed on linux right?
[17:34] <holy> Is it possible to change mode of someone's files being an administrator to read it?
[17:35] <iceroot> zebastian: with wine yes, and if the nativ version comes out, that one can be installed too
[17:35] <jrib> holy: if you're an administrator, you don't need to change the mode to read it
[17:35] <netbook> ubuntu is cool
[17:35] <daevski> Anyone know how I might find the code behind the "Show Desktop" applet in awn?? I want to hotkey it in Compiz Commands
[17:36] <daevski> I've been searching for days lol [blush]
[17:36] <holy> jrib: I sometimes can not access files in home directory of my previous installations.
[17:36] <pietromaru> hi to everyone, does anybody knows how to install the driver of the mobile phone LG ku990?
[17:36] <gOLDfeesh> From what I heard though, Debian would be better for a "laptop" at least that's what I was told .. I was thinking of changing to Debian, because of the hardware support.
[17:36] <jrib> !source | daevski
[17:36] <jrib> daevski: may help
[17:36] <jrib> holy: your user can't.  So change *ownership* to your current user
[17:36] <jrib> !permissions > holy
[17:37] <holy> OK
[17:37] <daevski> jrib, ubottu, Thank you
[17:37] <jrib> holy: what exactly are you trynig to do though?
[17:37] <jophish> I had a server crash, how can I read some logs to determine what went wrong?
[17:38] <iceroot> jophish: vi /var/log/name-of-the-log-you-want-see
[17:38] <jophish> ok, thanks
[17:38] <grawity> s/vi/tail/
[17:38] <iceroot> jophish: also you can use cat filename | more
[17:38] <iceroot> grawity: or tail or less or nano or something else
[17:38]  * jrib takes out his award book
[17:38] <Halitech> gOLDfeesh, there is a live cd you can get to test it and see how it works ... http://debian-live.alioth.debian.org/
[17:38] <jophish> thanks ice_cream
[17:38] <phisher1> no nano love..
[17:39] <Ian_> so adding the .desktop files to /usr/share/applications/ didn't do it for other users..
[17:39] <JohannesSM64> in gedit, in preferences > plugins, the plugin descriptions don't fit in the window, and i can't find any way to make the window larger so i can read the full descriptions
[17:39] <jophish> thanks iceroot *
[17:39] <iceroot> jophish: :)
[17:39] <grawity> JohannesSM64: Tried resizing the window?
[17:39] <JohannesSM64> grawity: resize is greyed
[17:39] <vigo> Ian_ and mikepett: I was about to say or suggest what was just spoken about, vi,vim and this from the forums may help both of you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Vfu#Links
[17:39] <grawity> JohannesSM64: Hmm. What WM?
[17:40] <JohannesSM64> grawity: gnome
[17:40] <gOLDfeesh> Halitech, I know. I have it lol. thanks though. I was simply stating a fact. I installed it in VM and it ran beautifully.
[17:40] <Strife89> I'm looking for a fairly slick, quick way to bring up a terminal window, aside from placing a shortcut to it on the panel.
[17:40] <gOLDfeesh> grawity, it means Virtual Machine
[17:40] <ziobepi> baarìa
[17:40] <gOLDfeesh> ooooooooh.. VM my bad
[17:40] <grawity> JohannesSM64: I guess you mean Metacity. Try holding Alt and pressing the middle mouse button, then drag.
[17:40] <jrib> Strife89: keyboard shortcut
[17:40] <Ian_> vigo: ? how will that help me?
[17:40] <gOLDfeesh> should have read that.
[17:40] <Ian_> I already use vim and stuff :p
[17:40] <Halitech> gOLDfeesh, ok, wasn't sure by your post
[17:40] <grawity> gOLDfeesh: WM, not VM. (And I wasn't asking what does it mean - I asked which one was used.)
[17:40] <Strife89> jrib: Where should I go to set such a shortcut (or is one already set)?
[17:41] <iceroot> Strife89: have a look at yakuake
[17:41] <jrib> Strife89: system -> preferences -> keyboard shortcuts
[17:41] <JohannesSM64> grawity: that just makes the window lose focus
[17:41] <gOLDfeesh> grawity, I know I said I found it lo.
[17:41] <vigo> Ian_: vim,vi and that app can be used to safely edit the cofig files, emacs is also a good one to learn.
[17:41] <janhaj> ctmrj: do you know what is this? :(me-tv:7117): libglademm-CRITICAL **: Glade::Xml::get_cwidget(): glade_xml_get_widget() failed for widget name=window_scan_wizard, Segmentation fault
[17:42] <naxa> anyone know how to start LiVES in english? I'm using hungarian ubuntu and it automatically starts in hungarian, but the translation sucks. I couldn't find a "language" option to set, however
[17:42] <ice_cream> well you're either a vim or an emacs person, generally
[17:42] <ice_cream> (if either)
[17:42] <Ian_> vigo: i think you're confused, I know how to edit stuff, i just dont know what exactly to edit to make it system wide..
[17:43] <jusso> hi, anyone can help with 3G modem problem (with audio)?
[17:43] <g_zoli> hello
[17:43] <tuga3d> hi all
[17:44] <janhaj> ctmjr: i run me tv as sudo, but when
[17:44] <naruto> oii
[17:44] <tuga3d> is this where i can put questions related to 9.10 alpha?
[17:44] <ice_cream> !karmic > ice_cream
[17:44] <janhaj> ctmjr: when i select cz - Ostrava, it does not find anything..
[17:44] <ice_cream> really, it's due so soon?
[17:44] <g_zoli> I have a great problem. I use tvtime on my 9.04, but the channels above 500MHz (C21 channel) are terryble
[17:44] <ice_cream> thought there were still loooads of issues w/ karmic
[17:45] <vigo> Oh ok, system wide , uhm https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[17:45] <Guest1555> oii
[17:46] <ice_cream> hi, where do i go to see status of specific extensions and/or packages of karmic?  (e.g. to see if record extension is fixed yet)
[17:46] <Strife89> iceroot: Ooh, that is slick. :)
[17:46] <ice_cream> or the cpufreq module
[17:46] <iceroot> Strife89: perfect for your needs i think
[17:46] <vigo> Ian_: That link covers Gnome and others.
[17:47] <Strife89> iceroot: Pretty much, yep. :)
[17:47] <ctmjr> janhaj: did you install the dvd-apps?
[17:47] <janhaj> ctmjr: yes
[17:47] <janhaj> ctmjr: dvb-apps
[17:47] <ice_cream> oh, going -dev
[17:48] <ctmjr> janhaj: did you find the dir for dvb-t?
[17:48] <vigo> ice_cream: that is #ubuntu+1 for Karmic
[17:48] <tuga3d> thnks vigo
[17:49] <janhaj> ctmjr: /usr/share/dvb/dvb-t/
[17:49] <vigo> yw
[17:50] <ctmjr> janhaj: ok try this in a terminal scan /usr/share/dvd/dvb-t/file for your area
[17:50] <JadenKorn> Hey everyone
[17:52] <JadenKorn> I restored GRUB and it is working, but can't access to Windows partition, since /dev/sda1 is the extended partition and /dev/sda5 is my Windows partition, but the boot files are in /dev/sda2, and I can't get it to work right
[17:52] <ctmjr> janhaj: there are many for cz try them all if they do not work you need to find the freq's for your area
[17:52] <janhaj> ctmjr: http://paste.ubuntu.com/277241/
[17:53] <MikeH> what would case makedumpfile to fail?
[17:53] <MikeH> *cayse
[17:53] <MikeH> gr, cause :/
[17:53] <Lemurian> what package is gtkmm-2.4 in
[17:53] <JadenKorn> So technically Windows and Program Files folders are in my /dev/sda5 partition and NTLDR and boot.ini isin my /dev/sda2 partition
[17:54] <IdleOne> Lemurian: libgtkmm-2.4-dev
[17:54] <janhaj> ctmjr: ERROR: initial tuning failed, dumping lists (0 services) // in all cz freqs..
[17:54] <Lemurian> IdleOne: :) thanks
[17:55] <ctmjr> janhaj: you need to scan one list at a time
[17:55] <JadenKorn> What changes should I include in my menu.lst file?
[17:56] <janhaj> ctmjr: yes.. I test Ostrava, then brno, then praha, then domazlice.. but always with error
[17:59] <mayajowo> test
[17:59] <Ian_> vigo: ok then I just don't see how that link helps me getting a certain menu item to appear openly
[17:59] <mayajowo> test
[18:00] <thiebaude> mayajowo, ok, your test worked
[18:00] <shadowflier> hi I have a wifi WPA enterprise problem, Idont have WPA-Enterprise option on my NM
[18:00] <ctmjr> janhaj: ok lets try something else sudo apt-get install tvtime
[18:00] <shadowflier> patch anyone ?
[18:00] <vigo> Ian_: Is it a KDE thing?
[18:01] <Ian_> it's a gnome thing
[18:01] <StevenMyers> What's good today guys?
[18:01] <StevenMyers> Anything brewing in the gnome repos?
[18:02] <StevenMyers> Last update was lib for HTTPD's
[18:02] <StevenMyers> (WebDev)
[18:02] <Pici> StevenMyers: Ubuntu typically doesnt do updates for a released version unless they are security fixes.
[18:03] <StevenMyers> Yeah I figured that much.
[18:03] <Ian_> i want to add an item to the gnome menu "Applications->Programming" and i want to do it for all users. These users exist already and have a home directory. They have use the system before so . files could already be there
[18:03] <Gini> Hi.
[18:04] <grawity> loki_: Take a look at /usr/share/applications/
[18:04] <StevenMyers> Who has found GnoMenu to be useful?
[18:04] <Ian_> i guess you're talking to me grawity ?
[18:04] <Ian_> i added a app.desktop file there but that doesn't seem to do the trick.
[18:05] <grawity> Ian_: Yeah... tab-completion and sleepyness don't mix :(
[18:05] <Pici> StevenMyers: This channel isn't really for discussion, rather just for support.  #ubuntu-offtopic is the general discussion channel for the Ubuntu irc community.
[18:05] <Ian_> np
[18:05] <Ian_> i have to go now, i'll be back later, leave me a msg if you stumble upon anything :)
[18:06] <StevenMyers> Pici are you on staff support or Canonical administration development team?
[18:06] <Pici> StevenMyers: I'm an Ubuntu Member, one of the irc operators and part of the Ubuntu IRC Council.
[18:07] <janhaj> ctmjr: i install it, launch it, but i can't change video source.. :/
[18:07] <Lemurian> Pici: how did you become a member of ubuntu
[18:07] <StevenMyers> Lemurian: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[18:07] <Pici> Lemurian: contuinuing contributions to Ubuntu. In my case, I do a lot of support.
[18:07] <n2diy> I'm playing around on my SOHO LAN, and I'm trying to use gFTP to move some files around, but I'm getting connection refused messages. Do I need to install an FTP server on the boxes?
[18:07] <Pici> Anyway, #ubuntu-offtopic awaits.
[18:07]  * grawity wonders about Lemurian's nick.
[18:08] <urthmover> Is there a way to start gnome with the panels hidden to the left  (as if I've already pressed the left hide button)?
[18:08] <StevenMyers> Pici, you need a new hobby. You are way to strict about IRC in for a contributor.
[18:08] <vigo> Ian_: Have you looked at the G-Script page is also Nautilus stuff?
[18:08] <ctmjr> janhaj: is your card usb?
[18:08] <G_A_C> StevenMyers: and you need to get some respect for how people choose to spend their free time ;)
[18:08] <Lemurian> grawity: It's based off of the word "Lemuria"
[18:09] <StevenMyers> I'll remember not to join this channel in the near future.
[18:09] <danbhfive> urthmover: why not use autohide?
[18:09] <janhaj> ctmjr: yes, gigabyte u8000
[18:09] <StevenMyers> G_A_C I do but he/she is a IRC lurker.
[18:09] <Lemurian> grawity: Lemuria is the name of a hypothetical "lost land" variously located in the Indian and Pacific Oceans
[18:09] <Lemurian> grawity: Thus, lemurian refers to a citizen of that lost land.
[18:09] <urthmover> danbhfive: cause it doesn't hide completely
[18:09] <Pici> Lemurian, grawity: #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[18:09] <Lemurian> :)]
[18:10] <urthmover> danbhfive: I don't mind pressing the button when I startup  but I'd rather it be automated
[18:10] <ctmjr> janhaj: can you close tvtime then unplug the card and then plug it back in then open tvtime and see if it finds the card
[18:10] <Lemurian> Pici: you do a lot of support? what sort of support?
[18:10] <Lemurian> urthmover: from otw?
[18:10] <danbhfive> urthmover: http://www.stefanoforenza.com/hide-gnome-panel-to-get-the-most/
[18:11] <janhaj> ctmjr: nothing happened..
[18:13] <ctmjr> janhaj: no errors or anything?
[18:13] <janhaj> ctmjr: I can't change video source :/ when i want choose it, nothing happened..
[18:14] <tino4> Voer tekst hier in...hello people i am new here
[18:14] <xT|Fish> Hoi tino4
[18:14] <Aska> Hi !! Plz i search french channel !
[18:14] <tino4> hoi fish
[18:14] <xT|Fish> !fr | Aska
[18:14] <xT|Fish> New at ubuntu?
[18:14] <tino4> r u from stmaarten fish
[18:15] <xT|Fish> St Maarten, the village near Schagen?
[18:15] <vigo> Ian_: Look at the bottom of this page: http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/faq.php
[18:15] <whileimhere> Hi. I was wondering if the server edition of Ubuntu 9.04 can be installed via a USB thumbdrive? Also when I install it will it include X-Server and a desktop or will it just install the CLI? I just want the CLI as I am making a MAME cab and do not really need a full blown desktop. Fluxbox would work fine.
[18:15] <Sevdalin> ;]
[18:16] <iceroot> whileimhere: just cli and it can be installed from usb
[18:16] <thopiekar> Amaranth: ping
[18:16] <tino4> i am in in holland
[18:16] <Amaranth> thopiekar: ?
[18:16] <Lemurian> !
[18:16] <tino4> where r u
[18:16] <Lemurian> I'm in Lemuria
[18:17] <whileimhere> thanks iceroot
[18:17] <xT|Fish> I'm from Utrecht
[18:17] <Amaranth> !ot
[18:17] <CrazyBoy> hi
[18:17] <thopiekar> hi Amaranth, you closed my bug at lunchpad an got a question about reporting bugs via apport
[18:17] <CrazyBoy> tengo para reportar un error sobre "emesene"..
[18:17] <xT|Fish> tino4, let's talk on in private chat.
[18:17] <tino4> ok how must i do that
[18:17] <cow9000> is ext4 safe to migrate into now?
[18:17] <Amaranth> thopiekar: ah, please join #ubuntu-offtopic and we can talk about it there
[18:18] <thopiekar> ok
[18:18] <CrazyBoy> Alguien habla español ?
[18:18] <xT|Fish> cow9000, yes it is.
[18:18] <Amaranth> !es | CrazyBoy
[18:18] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> anyone know how to get wifi to work properly
[18:18] <CrazyBoy> ubottu: en realidad es que quiero repotar un error que acabo de solucionar sobre una pyc de emesene..
[18:18] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> it sees the conection]
[18:18] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> but wont connect
[18:18] <ctmjr> janhaj: what happens when you run cat /dev/video0 it should open a screen with a lot of garbage
[18:19] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> thing thats really annoying is I've got it to work once, and now its not doing it again
[18:19] <cow9000> is ext4 the best option for a desktop or should i consider other options?
[18:19] <guntbert> !enter | PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn
[18:19] <Lemurian> Pici: you do a lot of support? what sort of support?
[18:20] <csaba> hello, I've somehow managed to break by Xwindows, when I start X the whole OS freezes and I have to restart with the reset button
[18:20] <Pici> Lemurian: best to further the discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:20] <xT|Fish> cow9000, Yes take ext4, it's the fastest filesystem.
[18:20] <guntbert> Lemurian: your question has nothing to do with ubuntu support - its getting annoying
[18:20] <csaba> I've tried resetting to default but it didn't work
[18:20] <xT|Fish> cow9000, In fact, I use it myself.
[18:20] <janhaj> ctmjr: cat: /dev/video0: No such device
[18:20] <cow9000> xT|Fish: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1133719
[18:20] <cow9000> it says:  1) There have been reports of crashes having corrupted configuration files and sometimes more with Ext4 in use.
[18:20] <whileimhere> Stupid question here. I have NBR already on a thumbdrive and it works great to install. I used it to install to my new netbook! :) Very pleased. Now I was wondering rather than DL a server edition could I use the NBR to install to a PC and then just strip the desktop off after I install thus maybe saving 600mb of download?
[18:21] <csaba> in /var/log/gdm it says that there was an error in the ati driver
[18:21] <Aska> thx
[18:21] <ctmjr> janhaj: how about ls /dev/dvb
[18:21] <csaba> any idea what should I do to make x work again?
[18:21] <danbhfive> whileimhere: probably, if you know what you are doing
[18:21] <csaba> linux is working btw. I'm in console mode now, I've changed the init script to start in console mode
[18:21] <janhaj> ctmjr: adapter0
[18:22] <csaba> any idea? I don't want to reinstall linux, I've got everything set up perfectly... :(
[18:22] <whileimhere> danbhfive: Ive installed it no issues to my netbook. Would there be much of a difference in the installation? I did not know if it would even install to a desktop or if there was something super special about it like the differences between a 32 bit and a 64 bit version.
[18:24] <tharvey> anywhere I can get the 'iw' package for ubuntu 8.04?
[18:24] <ctmjr> janhaj: ok the /dev/video0 is for analog and the /dev/dvb is digital your card supports both so do not know whats wrong it is loading the digital part but not the analog
[18:25] <nota9> Does anyone here have any experience with ubuntu netboot clients?
[18:25] <guntbert> !info iw | tharvey
[18:25] <danbhfive> whileimhere: I think some of the desktop packages have been customized for UNR.  Im not really sure, and if you wanted the server install it may not matter
[18:25] <cow9000> xT|Fish: what do you think of that link i've sent you?
[18:26] <shane2peru> does anyone know of a way to extract a tar.gz file from where it is at to a specific location?  I don't want to cd to that directory, I want to extract to that directory.
[18:26] <xT|Fish> cow9000, have to check what you gave me :D
[18:26] <llutz> shane2peru: man tar  (-C)
[18:27] <fotis> hello
[18:27] <cow9000> they say ext4 is dangarous
[18:27] <janhaj> ctmjr: :( so you don't have any other tips to start this tuner?
[18:27] <lenswipe> hey guys
[18:28] <lenswipe> mysql just went into snafu mode could someone take a look?
[18:28] <lenswipe> http://pastebin.com/m718db900
[18:28] <shane2peru> llutz: been there. :)  Looking for a pointer or two.
[18:28] <llutz> shane2peru: -C
[18:28] <whileimhere> danbhfive: Yeah I mean I do not need to use the desktop features much. Mostly I run everything from fluxbox with no issues. I am hoping to get it up and running AdvMAME on X rather than have to use a WM which as far as I am told just sucks up resources that are never used.
[18:28] <lenswipe> http://pastebin.com/m718db900
[18:28] <shane2peru> llutz: oh, that was the pointer, lol, sorry, I missed that, I will check that out.
[18:28] <lenswipe> could somone take a look at that please
[18:29] <lenswipe> i cant get mysql server to work
[18:29] <Flare183> !patients | lenswipe
[18:29] <Flare183> !patience | lenswipe
[18:29] <shane2peru> llutz: thanks
[18:29] <lenswipe> Flare183, www.dictionary.com
[18:29] <lenswipe> :)
[18:29] <lenswipe> patience
[18:29] <Flare183> lenswipe: :P
[18:29] <lenswipe> patients are things that are found in a doctors surgery
[18:29] <Flare183> lenswipe: Yeah, I know
[18:29] <lenswipe> #:)
[18:29] <ctmjr> janhaj: hold on a sec
[18:30] <Flare183> lenswipe: It was an accident...
[18:30] <lenswipe> i installed freeradius-mysql and it made my whole mysql config go tits up
[18:30] <lenswipe> lol
[18:30] <Pici> lenswipe: That looks like it might be a question for the mysql gurus in #mysql.
[18:30] <sideshowbob> how do i become a freenode member?
[18:30] <lenswipe> Pici, *suicide* they just sent me here
[18:30] <Flare183> sideshowbob: #freenode
[18:30] <sideshowbob> #freenode
[18:30] <leagris> is there a way of mounting a btrfs volume on jaunty. btrfs-tools seems useless now.
[18:30] <Pici> lenswipe: :/
[18:30] <lenswipe> Pici, <[raymond]> lenswipe: Then that is a package/distro question, again not a MySQL question.
[18:30] <Pici> lenswipe: let me take a look then, one moment
[18:31] <resno> I need to edit a series of html files with the same systematic edits, whats the best way to do this?
[18:31] <Flare183> Pici: Yeah, I've just looked at it. I've never had that happen to me :S
[18:31] <lenswipe> Pici, http://freshupforums.servebbs.com that used to be joomla
[18:31] <zenlunatic> resno: sed & awk
[18:31] <lenswipe> Pici, http://freshupforums.servebbs.com/forum
[18:31] <lenswipe> and that used to be phpbb
[18:31] <federico_> hello
[18:32] <Flare183> !hi | federico_
[18:32] <zdennis> We've got a ubuntu staging server setup to run an application which internally calls out to a SSL protected resource from Google. On the staging server it is unable to verify the SSL certification for Google. However, we don't have this problem running the application on our local machines. Any ideas?
[18:32] <federico_> pls add me to msn h4ck3r43v3r@live.it
[18:32] <Flare183> .....
[18:32] <fotis> when is the new distribution  of ubuntu  coming?
[18:32] <Flare183> !ops | federico_
[18:32] <resno> zenlunatic: so like a bash script?
[18:32] <jpds> federico_: Please stop.
[18:33] <zenlunatic> resno: yeah, its advanced though, at least for me
[18:33] <tasslehoff> !hfsplus
[18:33] <tasslehoff> !hfs
[18:33] <sabat> how do I completely shut down x. if I kill the process it just auto-restarts.
[18:33] <resno> zenlunatic: so it would be better just to hand do it?
[18:33] <federico_> add me to msn h4ck3r43v3r@live.it
[18:33] <Lemurian> http://www.lanedo.com/~carlos/tracker-status-icon.png
[18:33] <Lemurian> what is that
[18:34] <zenlunatic> resno: with sed & awk the possibilities are limitless, but they have whole books on them
[18:34] <guntbert> federico_: please stop that
[18:34] <fotis> is kde or gnome more stable?
[18:34] <FrankQC> fotis: try flux
[18:34] <jpds> guntbert: He left.
[18:34] <fotis> what is flux?
[18:34] <FrankQC> !fluxbox
[18:34] <sideshowbob>  /msg nickserv identify h27zux
[18:35] <tino5> hallo mensen
[18:35] <grawity> sideshowbob: ...you'd better change that soon.
[18:35] <llutz> sideshowbob: time to change password
[18:35] <sideshowbob> dammit
[18:35] <Flare183> sideshowbob: Nice one!, you might want to change that
[18:35] <zenlunatic> lol
[18:35] <sideshowbob> how do i change it?
[18:35] <Pici> lenswipe: It looks like its an error that means that mysql is timing out.  Is Joomla still on the site?
[18:35] <sabat> don't worry, I'm sure someone has changed it for you by now.
[18:35] <Flare183> sabat: HAHAHA!
[18:35] <sabat> :D
[18:35] <FrankQC> D:<
[18:36] <Flare183> Ok people, remember this isn't IM :)
[18:36] <tasslehoff> Is disabling of journaling on a hfs+ partition bad? I want Ubuntu to get write support to my OS X partition
[18:36] <tino5> hoi mensen ik ben nieuw hier
[18:36] <sideshowbob> how do i change my pw?
[18:36] <Pici> sideshowbob: /msg nickserv help set password
[18:36] <Pici> !nl | tino5
[18:37] <tino5> hi pc
[18:37] <tino5> hi pici sorry
[18:37] <tasslehoff> sideshowbob: /nickserv set passwd oldpassword newpassword
[18:37] <whileimhere> When I install the new Ubuntu for my MAME system what file-system would be best for performance?
[18:37] <tasslehoff> without a space before the / :p
[18:38] <[A]KangB> hi! I have installed an hard disk reciently, I format it into ext3 but when I mount it, the partition allows to root and I cannot touch it. Any suggest?
[18:38] <sideshowbob> thanks tasslehoff
[18:38] <tino5> hello
[18:39] <danbhfive> whileimhere: I don't know what is the best, but most will be using ext4 with a few GiB of ram.  Btrfs will be out in a few years
[18:40] <Tillotson> [A]KangB: ls -al /wherever/you/mounted/it
[18:40] <whileimhere> danbhfive: this is an old machine. Its a P3 with 256ram and a 40gig drive.
[18:40] <tino5> hello
[18:41] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB: if you want it permanently, change the fstab to add the option "users" on that hdd
[18:41] <eggmanpete> sry "user"
[18:41] <danbhfive> whileimhere: well, I would check to see what adding more ram would take.  No file system will make up for a lack of ram
[18:41] <heathkid> I'm trying to do a new server install of 8.04.3-server-amd64 and am having problems partitioning the disks. can someone please help me?
[18:41] <sideshowbob> hello
[18:41] <sideshowbob> hello
[18:41] <tino5> hello
[18:42] <eggmanpete> hello
[18:42] <[A]KangB> Tillotson, total 8;
[18:42] <[A]KangB> drwxr-xr-x  2 root root 4096 2009-09-23 21:26 . ; drwxr-xr-x 11 root root 4096 2009-09-24 19:31 ...
[18:42] <sideshowbob> how hard is it to get started with python?
[18:42] <whileimhere> danbhfive: I have it maxed out on the MB.
[18:42] <tino5> hello
[18:42] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, trying..
[18:42] <sideshowbob> dammit wrong channel
[18:42] <Tillotson> [A]KangB: Look into the chown command
[18:42] <eggmanpete> sideshowbob: read the web tutorial on their site
[18:42] <vigo> sideshow: try #python
[18:43] <Tillotson> [A]KangB: Looks like the directory is empty
[18:43] <Tillotson> [A]KangB: You probably haven't mounted the disk
[18:43] <heathkid> I have #1 set fine... but I need #2 set as Extended (but there is no option for that... only Primary or Logical)
[18:43] <danbhfive> whileimhere: ok, well, then you need to look for a very light desktop.  Maybe forgo ubuntu, and use one of the super light distros out there.  If you want to stick with ubuntu, start with xubuntu
[18:44] <lukssss> hello all!!! i have a problem with usplash... i can see the usplash when ubuntu stars but after a few seconds it goes to console mode... ive installed startupmanager and tried to fix this but i cant.... i can see the usplash when ubuntu is shuting down normaly... any ideas how to solve this?
[18:44] <[A]KangB> Tillotson, because can be only written by root... i'm trying to fix it
[18:44] <losher> heathkid: logical is a synonym for extended....
[18:44] <lianimator> Hi, I set up a remote desktop server on my computer, and allowed viewers to connect with a password without my confirmation, and the icon shows only when someone is connected. right not, vino-server is running when no icon is shown. could that mean anything? like, someone is connected?
[18:44] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB, can you cat your /etc/fstab......?
[18:44] <grawity> heathkid: It is?
[18:44] <grawity> err.
[18:44] <grawity> losher: It is?
[18:45] <grawity> losher: I think an extended partition _contains_ logical partitions.
[18:45] <skysong> anybody using 9.10 right now?
[18:45] <skysong> hello:)
[18:45] <lenswipe> ok
[18:45] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, i'm pasting it
[18:45] <guntbert> !9.10 | skysong
[18:45] <lenswipe> could someone help me with this mysql error
[18:46] <lenswipe> windows kept booting me off the wifi (im having one of those days)
[18:46] <Tine> ciao
[18:46] <lenswipe> Pici: i think you were doing something werent you?
[18:46] <heathkid> losher, I was told to set "2 Remainder extended" and then #5 as logical Root and #6 as logical Home... but if I set #2 as Primary using the remainder of space I cannot set up any logical partitions
[18:46] <mattgirv> whileimhere: You need to be very choosy about what applications you actually run, also rather than running a full on DE, maybe try a light window manager such as WindowMaker/Fluxbox (both of which I run on a P2 with reasonable speeds)
[18:46] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, http://www.pastebin.org/23580
[18:46] <Tine> c'è qualcuno che puo aiutarmi
[18:46] <Pici> lenswipe: I asked you a question and you never responded.
[18:46] <Pici> !it | Tine
[18:46] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, http://www.pastebin.org/23580 i have finishing editing.. any thing else needed!?
[18:46] <lenswipe> Pici: yeah windows booted me off the wireless...
[18:46] <Tine> ok grazie
[18:46] <lenswipe> ...several times! >=[
[18:46] <lenswipe> stupid M$
[18:47] <skysong> hello, just wanted to know it would be worth reinstalling my current 9.04 to 9.10. Can anybody help?
[18:47] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB, which drive is it?
[18:47] <losher> grawity: heathkid: the terminology seems to depend rather on the partitioning tool.
[18:47] <Pici> lenswipe: Is jooma still on the site?
[18:47] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, /dev/sdb1
[18:47] <lenswipe> Pici: yeah,. whats left of it
[18:47] <baggar11> what's the trick to getting Jaunty to mount iSCSI targets on boot? the open-iscsi script loads before the networking script?
[18:47] <dehqan_> how to fix this ?#getlibs /usr/bin/gyachi No match for libgyachi.so No packages to install   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=773802
[18:47] <lenswipe> Pici: i installed freeradius-mysql in the hope of getting freeradius working and it snafud mysql
[18:48] <Pici> lenswipe: I've found a few links that suggest that there may be a fix using that: http://is.gd/3DvIr
[18:48] <sarfaraz> hello ppl
[18:48] <ctmjr> janhaj: sorry it took so long i have no idea why it dies not find channels it might be the wrong firmware the only thing i found about it was here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=800235
[18:48] <szeck> Hei guys
[18:48] <cliff> hi
[18:48] <lenswipe> Pici: ive now removed freeradius-mysql and the problem still persists...
[18:48] <markl_> ok this is really weird, i have rhythmbox and skype up at the same time
[18:48] <Crosswing> tue_ :P
[18:48] <sarfaraz> i got an idea
[18:48] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB, that seems fine, did you unmount and mount -a ?
[18:48] <markl_> whenever a skype noise plays, it pauses rhythmbox to play it
[18:48] <ctmjr> *dies > does
[18:48] <szeck> someone can help me? my native resolution of the screen is not in the resolution list!!!
[18:49] <lenswipe> Pici: its not just joomla, its anything with d DB though inclduing phpbb and everything else!
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[18:49] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, im waiting for your answer... im going to do it
[18:49] <sarfaraz> How abt the devs wrote some shell scripts to help automate things a bit for novice users???
[18:49] <cliff> anyone know how to configure local domain
[18:49] <sarfaraz> How abt the devs wrote some shell scripts to help automate things a bit for novice users???
[18:49] <lenswipe> Pici: its just one big FUBAR
[18:49] <nils_> hmm how can I debug network manager based openvpn?
[18:49] <nils_> specifically: where is the log?
[18:49] <markl_> why can't they share the sound card
[18:49] <LjL> sarfaraz: ideas in #ubuntu-offtopic - support in #ubuntu
[18:49] <lenswipe> sarfaraz: how about you did :) go learn bash?
[18:49] <sarfaraz> Yeah its damn easy
[18:49] <skysong> szeck: i went through this, very disturbing indeed. Tried adding your resolution to xorg.conf?
[18:49] <szeck> i have 1680x1050 because of 20" but in the list the max is 1280x1024
[18:49] <sarfaraz> shell scripting is fun
[18:50] <lenswipe> sarfaraz: good :) enjoy
[18:50] <szeck> skysong no how can i do that
[18:50] <lenswipe> Pici: so yeah, any ideas?
[18:50] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, same problem
[18:50] <Teknkik> Hi, how i can set automount to media sda3?
[18:50] <markl_> szeck: sounds like you don't have your proper video driver - just the default VESA one
[18:50] <sarfaraz> lenswipe dont u agree???Shell scripts to dial internet thru bluetooth??Mobile Braodband
[18:50] <janhaj> ctmjr: ok.. thank you very much..  thank you for time spent for me..
[18:50] <skysong> szeck: add the Modes under the "screen" section
[18:50] <szeck> markl_ how to fix it?
[18:51] <heathkid> losher, if I set the remaining space as a logical paritition, I cannot set up any logical partitions on it (as in, it isn't an Extended partition)
[18:51] <markl_> szeck: sadly each different card has their own way to do it
[18:51] <VCoolio> Teknkik: in /etc/fstab
[18:51] <Teknkik> thanks
[18:51] <wolfram> hallo ist jemand deutsch??
[18:51] <sarfaraz> how to recover data off reiserfs any ideas???
[18:51] <heathkid> losher, I meant primary
[18:51] <Teknkik> :)
[18:51] <lenswipe> sarfaraz: cant say ive ever tried
[18:51] <losher> grawity: heathkid: hmm. Is there no other option for the remaining space? Which tool is this?
[18:51] <Pici> lenswipe: This mysql bug thread sugests increasing max_allowed_packet : http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=1011
[18:51] <Pici> !de | wolfram
[18:51] <llutz> !de > wolfram
[18:51] <neC0> how to update to GNOME 2.28???
[18:51] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB, not sure. is the /media/disk folder root?
[18:51] <markl_> szeck: maybe google for your card and ubuntu or something like that
[18:52] <Pici> neC0: Wait until Ubuntu 9.10 is released and then upgrade.
[18:52] <sarfaraz> how do i update jaunty to gnome 2.28
[18:52] <lenswipe> Pici: does it tell you how to do that? also it was working perfectly until i installed freeradius-mysql
[18:52] <heathkid> losher, I'm just going through the install CD
[18:52] <sabat> How do I shut down X completely. if I kill the process it just auto-restarts.
[18:52] <Pici> lenswipe: Yes, but this really is a #mysql question, its odd that they sent you back here.
[18:52] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB: try adding uid=1000 and umask to the options
[18:52] <losher> heathkid: so it should be gparted, unless the server edition uses something else...
[18:52] <neC0> yes
[18:52] <Mr-Woof> Does anyone use UNR on a eee900?
[18:52] <Pici> sabat: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop
[18:52] <szeck> markl_ how i can pull off the annoyng label on the corner of the screen with the name of the screen????
[18:52] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, yep.. but i cannot change allowments including where i'm root
[18:52] <Teknkik> is eny matter vith the uuid?
[18:53] <DeBaimbo> hello, is there a quick way to see if I am running ubuntu 64 bit or 32 bit? I am not the one who installed it on this computer
[18:53] <sarfaraz> any LFS builders on hardy???
[18:53] <oblenob> anyone reccomend screen recording software other than Recordmydesktop?
[18:53] <LucidGuy> Is there anything out there better then NX for remote desktop control?
[18:53] <Tillotson> [A]KangB: change the options of dev/sdb1 in fstab to defaults. Then `sudo mount /media/disk` will mount the disk
[18:53] <grawity> DeBaimbo: uname -a
[18:53] <dehqan_> how to fix this ?#getlibs /usr/bin/gyachi No match for libgyachi.so No packages to install   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=773802
[18:53] <szeck> markl_ oh sry
[18:53] <zleap> DeBaimbo, uname -a should give you the kernel
[18:53] <markl_> szeck: hammer & chisel maybe
[18:53] <zleap> so it may indicate if its a 32 or 64 bit kernel
[18:53] <Tillotson> [A]KangB: then check the permissions with `ls -al /media/disk`
[18:53] <grawity> DeBaimbo: uname -m, actually.
[18:54] <szeck> markl_ is that if u have the screen setting window open there's the label
[18:54] <sarfaraz> i use Acronis for distributing my "furnished" ubuntu to other ppl and they luv it..m thinking off uploading it to torrents!!
[18:54] <DeBaimbo> x86_64
[18:54] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB: ok, nvm. try the uid and umask
[18:54] <DeBaimbo> thanks a lot!
[18:54] <[A]KangB> Tillotson, i do that before... and have no solution!? any OTHER idea?
[18:54] <max99> 64 bit or 32 bit? uname -m is just the kernel u are using
[18:54] <Mr-Woof> no unr users in here?
[18:54] <sarfaraz> how to install 2.6.30.4 on hardy
[18:55] <sarfaraz> i need help with initrd generatino
[18:55] <Tillotson> [A]KangB:  If the permissions are wrong use `chmod -R [A]KangB:<group> /mnt/disk`
[18:55] <Keiichi> hello
[18:55] <Keiichi> how I can install cURL?
[18:55] <snakedoc> hi, how can i try to reconnect usb device without restarting the pc, repluggin the device doesn't work, (device becomes unresponsive)
[18:55] <Mohammad[B]> how i can find a keyword in many files with grep command ?
[18:55] <grawity> Mohammad[B]: grep -r
[18:56] <sarfaraz> i use Acronis for distributing my "furnished" ubuntu to other ppl and they luv it..m thinking off uploading it to torrents!!
[18:56] <sarfaraz> i need help with initrd generatino
[18:56] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, "/dev/sdb1 /media/disk ext3 rw,user,nosuid,nodev,uid=1000,umask 0 0"
[18:56] <Tillotson> [A]KangB: when you posted the output of ls -al before it looked like the disk wasn't mounted
[18:56] <max99> Keiichi: how I can install cURL? sudo apt-get install curl
[18:56] <[A]KangB> Tillotson, the disk is empty
[18:57] <losher> heathkid: hmm. https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html does talk about 3 partition types: primary, logical and extended. It claims 4 primaries, 1 logical and 2 extended. I'm not sure I agree exactly, but it's good for starters. I usually create root (primary) then logical (rest of disk) and put swap and home into the logical part...
[18:57] <Keiichi> max99: i try thism dont working
[18:57] <sarfaraz> i m boss of partitionin
[18:57] <Tillotson> Then chown the directory
[18:57] <heathkid> losher, I don't get a "pretty" scrren like GParted... just a screen with a blue background and at the top [!!] Partition disks
[18:57] <Tillotson> [A]KangB: /media/disk
[18:57] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, cannot mount, invalid operation (sayed by Gnone)
[18:57] <sarfaraz> cfdisk is best
[18:58] <max99> Keiichi: max99: i try thism dont working? what is the error?
[18:58] <vigo> !best
[18:58] <vims> #debian-de
[18:58] <Keiichi> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[18:58] <losher> heathkid: shouldn't matter. All the partitioners offer the same basic facilities. Is there a help function?
[18:58] <eggmanpete> sudo mount -a
[18:58] <Keiichi> maybe i shold log on root account?
[18:58] <sarfaraz> how to generate initrd
[18:58] <Mohammad[B]> grawity, thanks
[18:58] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB: sudo mount -a
[18:58] <Keiichi> should*
[18:58] <[A]KangB> Tillotson, you say that 5 minutes ago, i did it, and don't works... any OTHER idea?
[18:58] <grawity> Keiichi: That, or prefix the command with 'sudo'
[18:59] <max99> Keiichi: E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? you have synaptic or another program open?
[18:59] <Keiichi> updates
[18:59] <Keiichi> system was updating
[18:59] <max99> yes that would do it.
[18:59] <heathkid> losher, yes, but it's worthless
[18:59] <sarfaraz> kernel??????
[19:00] <sarfaraz> any idea how to generate initrd on hardy
[19:00] <Keiichi> working! if i close updater. Thank you very much :)
[19:00] <Brian___> im having some problems with cairo dock. yesterday everything was fine  but today the opengl cairo is invisable and the non open gl one is located half way up the screens location
[19:00] <losher> heathkid: did you have a particular partitioning scheme in mind?
[19:00] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, http://pastebin.com/m59b088a5
[19:00] <sarfaraz> any idea how to generate initrd on hardy
[19:00] <sarfaraz> any idea how to generate initrd on hardy
[19:00] <sarfaraz> any idea how to generate initrd on hardy
[19:00] <FloodBot2> sarfaraz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:00] <dehqan_> good day ,after following this guidehttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=773802 for using 32 bit package in 64 bit ubuntu ,faced this error > ~# getlibs /usr/bin/gyachiNo match for libgyachi.so
[19:00] <dehqan_>  No packages to install
[19:00] <LjL> sarfaraz: any idea how not to be ery annoying
[19:00] <losher> sarfaraz: there are web pages on it, I've seen them in passing....
[19:00] <Keiichi> but how to run this program, it have GUI?
[19:00] <szeck> Hei guys when i go in "hardware drivers" and trying to download the proprietary FGLRX ati drivers the window: "download and installing driver freeze"... ANY guess what's happening?
[19:01] <sarfaraz> any idea how to generate initrd on hardy
[19:01] <sarfaraz> its not working Kernel panics on boot
[19:01] <dehqan_> #gyachi gyachi: error while loading shared libraries: libgyachi.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[19:01] <heathkid> losher, yes
[19:01] <void_pointer> !patience | sarfaraz
[19:01] <losher> heathkid: tell us...
[19:01] <szeck> Hei guys when i go in "hardware drivers" and trying to download the proprietary FGLRX ati drivers the window: "download and installing driver freeze"... ANY guess what's happening?
[19:01] <heathkid> losher, #1 255MB primary ext2 boot Boot /boot
[19:02] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB, sry you dont need umask
[19:02] <heathkid> losher, #2 Remainder Extended
[19:02] <fotis> why does kde  try to emulate microsoft?
[19:02] <heathkid> losher, #5 20G logical ext3 Root /
[19:02] <sarfaraz> because they suck fotis
[19:02] <vigo> szeck: is it permitted in Sources ?
[19:02] <grawity> fotis: Do you mean 'Windows' by "Microsoft"?
[19:02] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, nvm.. deleting umask flaf from fstab
[19:02] <[A]KangB> flag*
[19:02] <heathkid> losher, #6 10G logical ext3 Home /home
[19:02] <szeck> vigo don't know how to check?
[19:02] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB: just chmod the /media/disk
[19:02] <max99> sarfaraz: any idea how to generate initrd on hardy. why?
[19:02] <yacc> How do I check which Ubuntu release is installed on a server?
[19:02] <[A]KangB> once again!?
[19:02] <LjL> !version | yacc
[19:02] <heathkid> hten swap on /dev/sdb
[19:02] <Pici> yacc: lsb_release -a
[19:03] <sarfaraz> vmlinuz needs initrd to boot right????
[19:03] <vigo> !restricted | szeck
[19:03] <sarfaraz> compiling kernel generates only vmlinux systm map
[19:03] <Ian_> vigo:
[19:03] <Ian_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plt-scheme/+bug/374283
[19:03] <Ian_> :p
[19:03] <losher> heathkid: according to https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html, the partition number affects whether it's primary or logical. 1-4 are primary, first logical starts at 5. Maybe your partitioner follows this scheme? Also, where is your swap?
[19:03] <Ian_> it's for drscheme :)
[19:03] <wrapster> Im having a weird issue with vbox on ubuntu..
[19:03] <vigo> ahhhh
[19:03] <yacc> What's the end-of-life policy with Ubuntu?
[19:04] <fotis> I say that they need create a new environment for linux
[19:04] <Pici> yacc: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[19:04] <Wanna-Bunto> Having a problem installing Ubuntu Server ,,, Either my cd is bad or its not recognizing my harddrive
[19:04] <void_pointer> yacc, once your life ends you have to stop using it
[19:04] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB: ok, unmount it. then do: sudo mount -o user,rw /dev/sdb1 /media/disk
[19:04] <wrapster> If i run it as root it works fine. but as an ordinary user it screws up my entire machine
[19:04] <wrapster> the machine just hangs.. anyone with the same problem?
[19:04] <yacc> void_pointer, usually I would find stuff like that funny.
[19:04] <sarfaraz> i agree with fotis lets wait for chrome os..google's buildin a new one for it
[19:05] <WiZz3> Hi, does anyone have any experience with drivers for Nvidia Geforce 6200, in ubuntu jaunty, i can't get my 3d acceleration to work ?
[19:05] <yacc> So what do I do with a 5.10 box? Any chance to dist-upgrade it to something somewhat current?
[19:05] <max99>  sarfaraz: compiling kernel generates only vmlinux systm map? http://kerneltrap.org/node/14995
[19:05] <fotis> is  chrome  open source?
[19:05] <grawity> fotis: Yes.
[19:05] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, nothing
[19:05] <sarfaraz> yes
[19:06] <grawity> yacc: Backup/partition/fresh install would be much faster and much more reliable.
[19:06] <heathkid> losher, swap will be on /dev/sdb
[19:06] <Pici> yacc: 6.06 is still supported. Did you see my link before? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[19:06] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB, nothing as in no writing. or no mounting?
[19:06] <yacc> grawity, well, the issue is that it's in a colocation facility.
[19:06] <sarfaraz> clonezilla
[19:06] <losher> heathkid: ok, so create root as partition 1, then see if you can create 5 on the remainder...
[19:06] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, no writing
[19:06] <grawity> yacc: chroot/debootstrap?
[19:07] <grawity> !eol-upgrade
[19:07] <grawity> !search eol
[19:07] <grawity> Hmmm.
[19:07] <Keiichi> does cURL have GUI?
[19:07] <max99> sarfaraz:I would guess mkinird
[19:07] <heathkid> losher, I can do that but I never end up with a partition 2
[19:07] <Crosswing> !eol jaunty
[19:07] <void_pointer> yacc, you can try, but you'll have no joy
[19:07] <Wanna-Buntu> Nobody has experienced the CD install partitioner not showing any harddrives? its not even showing a field or anything just help, undo changes, and continue (which fails because no root partition has been set)
[19:07] <Gabe> help  am uber noon and have been using ubuntu for three days and want to throw computer out window
[19:07] <Pici> Keiichi: No, curl is a cli program.
[19:07] <void_pointer> yacc, I have tried the same 2x. I went with a backup and fresh install in the end
[19:08] <yacc> void_pointer, well, after studying the releases, a simple dist-upgrade into 6.06 LTS would seem like a sensible thing to do.
[19:08] <Keiichi> Pici: ok, thanks.
[19:08] <void_pointer> yacc, as I thought ....
[19:08] <zadarmo3> anybody knows how to replace a 1gb casper-rw on liveusb with 4gb one withOUT losing data I have on that casper-rw"?
[19:08] <heathkid> losher, I'm just setting them up as I was told... but there is no way to set up the #2 extended partition
[19:08] <losher> heathkid: per the web page, partition 2 would be required to be a primary...?
[19:08] <[A]KangB> Wanna-Buntu, yep. when the CD boots... try to select Install instead run live CD...
[19:09] <vigo> Crosswing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[19:09] <Wanna-Buntu> [A]KangB: -.- i did select install it went through all the way to the partition harddrive point
[19:09] <losher> heathkid: you might wanna wait and get a second opinion from someone familiar with the server partitioning prog...
[19:09] <void_pointer> yacc, I'm only relating my experience. The time it will take to resolve some dependency hells, not the least of which is perl, can outweigh the warm glow of the seeming simplicity of the dist-upgrade
[19:09] <Gabe> am trying to get computer to update and keep getting errors that repositories are
[19:09] <sideshowbob> what version of ubuntu is mint 6 based on? 8,04?
[19:09] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB: very odd. must have something to do with /media/disk folder. all the ways i've said are writable mounts
[19:09] <Gabe> nt downloading
[19:10] <yacc> void_pointer, well, in the end it does not matter.
[19:10] <jophish> I have a file with a bunch of directories and files listed in it, one per line
[19:10] <jophish> How can I remove them all
[19:10] <Wanna-Buntu> [A]KangB: then it failed to show any partitions just help a space undo and continue
[19:10] <heathkid> losher, yes, I know partitions 1-4 are primary but I need to set up partition 2 as extended sort of like this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoPartition/ExtendedPartition (but I don't have the nice GUI on the server install)
[19:10] <Crosswing> vigo, cheers
[19:10] <losher> yacc: I agree with void_pointer. Far more trouble than it's worth to attempt an upgrade from a distro that's so far behind...
[19:10] <void_pointer> yacc, what does not matter?
[19:10] <yacc> void_pointer, technically, a colocated rented server that has been installed in 2005 should be moved over to new hardware anyway.
[19:10] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, we can start at 0... with another folder name, keeping /media/disk dead
[19:10] <nmvictor> Anyone know how to compile opensips in ubuntu?
[19:10] <fotis> what is the best strategy game in ubuntu? like workcraft
[19:11] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB: i just saw your ls -la. the folder belongs to root
[19:11] <void_pointer> yacc, ok. Well, I only offered my experience and opinion. Feel free to do what you like, obviously :)
[19:11] <aem-irc-a> fotis, solitaire :D
[19:11] <Gabe> is there a guru whos brain i can pick in a 1v1 chat session f for a few minutes?
[19:11] <[A]KangB> ok eggmanpete thanks anyways :D
[19:11] <server_side> hi
[19:11] <fotis> hahahah
[19:11] <[A]KangB> you too Tillotson
[19:11] <aem-irc-a> sorry :)
[19:11] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB: have you tried making a folder in /media/disk ?
[19:11] <heathkid> losher, but in the server install there is no gui for partitioning and there is no option for creating an "Extended Partition"
[19:11] <void_pointer> !pm | Gabe
[19:11] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, of course
[19:12] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB: as root?
[19:12] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, of course
[19:12] <Wanna-Buntu> heathkid: theres KIND of a GUI ... unfortunately it doesnt work for me
[19:12] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, as user isn't allowed, as root yep
[19:12] <Wanna-Buntu> lol
[19:12] <[A]KangB> Wanna-Buntu, there's 2 ways to install... running live CD, doubleclicking on install... or selecting install at boot
[19:12] <fotis> does anyone know real if exist strategy game in linux?
[19:12] <Gabe> i keep trying to run updates and am getting mixed messages from system  On one hand it says updates are up to date on other hand it say it hasn
[19:12] <Gabe> t been checked in 200 days
[19:13] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> how to get Wicd working > 9.04. sees the network (another laptop with an open connection) but keeps displaying connecting and not doing anything
[19:13] <Gabe> when i try and check updates i get error saying repositories aren
[19:13] <Wanna-Buntu> [A]KangB: ill go through and double check maybe i can get it to work
[19:13] <yacc> void_pointer, => well I concur with your opinion, it's just that I'd go even further. A colo-server that is that old, should get replaced anyway, as the probability of hardware failure starts to rise :(
[19:13] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB: not read what Tillotson said, but did you 'sudo chown USERNAME /media/disk/'
[19:13] <Gabe> t working
[19:13] <geirha> !info glob2 > fotis
[19:13] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, yep.. as root because 'disk' alows to root
[19:14] <heathkid> Wanna-Buntu, indeed... I guess you could consider this a GUI but not like in the HowToPartition/ExtendedPartitiion section on the help.ubuntu.com site
[19:14] <[A]KangB> nothing
[19:14] <fotis> is glob2 gME?
[19:14] <vigo> PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn: Try #ubuntu+1 yet?
[19:14] <fotis> game?
[19:14] <void_pointer> yacc, yeah. Do you have that option though?
[19:14] <PsYcHoTiC_MaDmAn> will try it now
[19:14] <geirha> fotis: Yes, real-time strategy game.
[19:14] <[A]KangB> Wanna-Buntu, try the second one... select install on boot
[19:14] <jophish> \join #bash
[19:14] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB: if you want write access you need to chown as your username
[19:15] <lightness> hi one question im unable to delete/change permission on some files on my usb drive, any ideas how to figure this out?
[19:15] <losher> heathkid: if you have a live cd of a recent desktop system I suppose you could boot it and use gparted to partition your disk, then boot the server install and tell it to use the existing partition scheme...
[19:15] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, when mount or umount it... it returns to old values
[19:15] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, this folder is root, at only for root
[19:15] <aem-irc-a> fotis, warzone or something
[19:15] <heathkid> losher, thanks... I'll try that
[19:15] <yacc> void_pointer, short term, no, as a project has to start rollout next week. middle term there is no other option, IMHO. 4 yrs for a server is good age to retire it.
[19:16] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, leave it... i will try later... thanks anyway :D
[19:16] <eggmanpete> [A]KangB k
[19:16] <MTec007> is there anything special i need to do, i have a printer port plug that allows a ethernet cable to be attached, how would i use that to get internet on my other [old] laptop?
[19:16] <aem-irc-a> fotis, wide lands
[19:16] <void_pointer> yacc, agreed. Anyway, we'll get an OT warning soon :)
[19:16] <Gabe> is there a tech support chat room where i can talk with some experts?
[19:17] <yacc> OT warning?
[19:17] <max99> lightness: ls -l, then sudo chmod 777, or something like that what the problem?
[19:17] <Pici> !offtopic | yacc :)
[19:17] <Gabe> how do i fix repository error?
[19:17] <aem-irc-a> Gabe, Im a technical support :D
[19:17] <aem-irc-a> Gabe, but in HP :/
[19:18] <Pici> Gabe: What error? Can you pastebin the text of it?
[19:18] <Gabe> pici yes   one moment plz
[19:19] <Gabe> Could not download all repository indexes
[19:19] <Gabe> The repository may no longer be available or could not be contacted because of network problems. If available an older version of the failed index will be used. Otherwise the repository will be ignored. Check your network connection and ensure the repository address in the preferences is correct.
[19:19] <amcsi> hello
[19:19] <Brian___> 'can anyone help me out with cairo dock  it keeps wanting to start in the middle of the screen as in halfway up the screen
[19:19] <Brian___> and its invisable
[19:19] <Gabe> it downloads 115 files but doesn
[19:19] <Gabe> t install them
[19:20] <amcsi> I changed my ctrl-alt-delete key combination to gnome-system-moniter, and it worked for a while, but now it locks instead. please help.
[19:21] <yacc> Is there somewhere a list of Ubuntu security fixes that where released?
[19:22] <the_archit3ct> Hi (:
[19:22] <server_side> synaptic
[19:22] <Pici> Gabe: What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[19:23] <Gabe> hardy heron 8.04.2
[19:23] <losher> yacc: you could poke around http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/. Dunno if that's what you're looking for...
[19:24] <server_side> whats the difference between sudo and su?
[19:24] <yacc> losher, just something to illustrate how many security updates there have been since 2007 ;)
[19:24] <yacc> server_side, su asks the root password, which is by default not set.
[19:24] <vigo> !su
[19:24] <losher> yacc: that might do it, take a look...
[19:24] <yacc> server_side, sudo asks per default the authorized users password.
[19:24] <erUSUL> server_side: sudo does something as a given user su switchs to another user
[19:24] <lightness> max99 didnt work ,maybe a command to "format" the usb drive?
[19:24] <losher> Gabe: you've done the usual sudo apt-get update ?
[19:25] <Gabe> i
[19:25] <server_side> ahhh ok great
[19:25] <fotis> does anyone play games online in ubuntu and what games?
[19:25] <Gabe> im total noob   had this 3 days don
[19:25] <Gabe> t know what
[19:25] <b3rz3rk3r> fotis, Savage 2
[19:25] <Gabe> i don
[19:25] <b3rz3rk3r> fotis, wicked game
[19:25] <Gabe> t know what usual is yet
[19:25] <sburwood> I use Ubuntu 8.10.  I use Thunderbird as an e-mail client.  While Thunderbird worked in the past correctly, now, each and every time I use it, it asks me for the e-mail addresses, etc.  Why?
[19:25] <sburwood> and what to do?
[19:25] <erUSUL> fotis: Guild Wars; Urban Terror but move this to #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:25] <yacc> erUSUL, su can run a command too.
[19:26] <yacc> erUSUL, and sudo -i gives you a shell.
[19:26] <Gabe> losher:  i dont know what usual is yet on this system  am old windows user
[19:26] <vigo> Gabe: Takes abit of unlearning to learn, but read the forums. ALOT and it will help.
[19:26] <erUSUL> yacc: how would you have answered the question ?
[19:26] <yacc> erUSUL, the difference is the security architecture. su switches to another user asking that user's password. sudo asks your own password, and checks if you are authorized to do the switchover.
[19:27] <sburwood> anyone wanna help me?
[19:27] <max99> sburwood: Thunderbird uses a profile folder (I forget of hand where) it must have changed.
[19:27] <yacc> erUSUL, on a default Ubuntu install su is worthless for root access as Ubuntu does not set a root password by default anyway.
[19:27] <grawity> sburwood: Try renaming ~/.thunderbird and ~/.mozilla-thunderbird
[19:27] <Gabe> losher:  got this error when i ran that command E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[19:28] <sburwood> renaming ... ?  Wouldn't it be better to just uninstall and reinstall Thunderbird?
[19:28] <Gabe> vigo: whats the best place to start?
[19:29] <losher> Gabe: wanna pastebin the output so we can see exactly what went wrong?
[19:29] <sburwood> thanks for the help (I'm not being sarcastic)
[19:29] <erUSUL> Gabe: switch mirrors ?
[19:29] <SecretAgentMan> hi, I just loaded up ubuntu. Great operating system.  I noticed on the network connection window there is an option to set up a vpn, but all the buttons are grayed out.  How do I set it up?  I just need to connect my system to another network across the INTERNET.  My system is behind a router with a firewall. BTW it is amazing that ubutnu includes VPN.  This is really a great operating system.
[19:29] <sburwood> bye
[19:29] <max99> sburwood:uninstall and reinstall Thunderbird? will just start a new profile
[19:30] <grawity> max99: No, it won't
[19:30] <b3rz3rk3r> SecretAgentMan, you need to get a package, which for the life of me i cant recall suddenly
[19:30] <b3rz3rk3r> SecretAgentMan, i had the same trouble, i will find out for you
[19:30] <vigo> Gabe: Look at the Ubuntu Forums, Absolute Beginner Talk is a good place.
[19:30] <grawity> max99: (Re)installing an application _never_ touches user's settings.
[19:30] <b3rz3rk3r> SecretAgentMan, i think it was openvpn
[19:30] <SecretAgentMan> Thanks b3rz3rk3r I appreciate it.
[19:31] <geirha> SecretAgentMan: network-manager-openvpn or network-manager-vpnc
[19:31] <mgv1> how can i find a good proxy for xchat and how it can be configured?
[19:31] <vigo> Gabe: http://ubuntuforums.org/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?s=6302f6943d1d68fc8aaaefda3a953ab8&f=326
[19:31] <max99> grawity: max99: (Re)installing an application, Was muggling up moving Thunder bird, maybe, thank
[19:31] <hareldvd> Any idea why /etc/environment has LANG=en_US.UTF-8 but echo $LANG says LANG=C ???
[19:31] <madara> Boa tarde galera!!!!
[19:31] <b3rz3rk3r> geirha, thx
[19:31] <Gabe> losher: are you there?  got disconnected somehow
[19:31] <erUSUL> !games | fotis
[19:31] <[A]KangB> eggmanpete, now it works... i restart after installing some apps... and now it works. i don't know why
[19:32] <markit> hi, kde programs have fonts much smaller than gnome ones. How can I setup this from gnome?
[19:32] <losher> Gabe: still here. I asked for a pastebin of the output from apt-get update so we can see exactly what goes wrong...
[19:32] <geirha> SecretAgentMan: Oh and network-manager-pptp for microsoft vpn servers
[19:33] <Gabe> losher: how do i get a pastebin?  dont know what that is?
[19:33] <erUSUL> markit: install qtconfig
[19:33] <erUSUL> !paste | Gabe
[19:33] <max99> markit: System-Prefrence-Apperance
[19:33] <SecretAgentMan> geirha: b3rz3rk3r, is it hard to set up?  I really like linux, but I wish it was easer for not it professionals. ... of course it has really moved leaps and bounds over the last couple of years, thanks to ubuntu.
[19:33] <linuxguy2009> Anyone have experience with doing an install over a local network?
[19:33] <markit> let's try, thanks (if I use kde font size are perfect)
[19:33] <losher> Gabe: nothing to it. Just browse to http://paste.ubuntu.com, copy in your output & then tell us the url it gives you...
[19:34] <SecretAgentMan> Geirha, we are only using ubuntu for the vpn, although there will be windows systems on the network, but they will not be on the vpn.
[19:34] <geirha> SecretAgentMan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VPNClient
[19:34] <b3rz3rk3r> SecretAgentMan, yeah its really easy if you are familiar with basic networking configs
[19:34] <Gabe> losher: one moment plz
[19:34] <Brian___> can anyone help me figure out why when i launch cairo dock it will launch halfway up the screen so its in the middle of the screen insted of the bottem
[19:35] <Xcerca> does ubuntu (and compiz and dual monitors) work fine with ATI crossfire cards ?
[19:35] <b3rz3rk3r> SecretAgentMan, its got a GUI and as i recall most of it is pretty self-explanatory
[19:35] <SecretAgentMan> b3rz3rk3r: not sure... if have the chops.
[19:35] <MikeH> Anyone around have any experience with RT Kernel patch?
[19:35] <SecretAgentMan> ok, will give it a try.
[19:35] <aem-irc-a> Now I have to ask questin: I have 160G hd, and OS is in one partition and second has all my personal data. How can i make this second partition (/media/disk) mounting automaticly at boot?
[19:35] <aem-irc-a> typo
[19:35] <geirha> SecretAgentMan: If the vpn servers are running ubuntu, then you likely want the openvpn one
[19:35] <b3rz3rk3r> SecretAgentMan, you'll be just fine, go for it. there is always the forums or #ubuntu when you get stuck ;)
[19:36] <Gabe> losher: http://paste.ubuntu.com/277324/
[19:37] <Gabe> losher: is that correct?
[19:37] <ZykoticK9> aem-irc-a, you need to add the drive to /etc/fstab - research fstab
[19:38] <MikeH> gah
[19:38] <losher> Gabe: It's perfect. But it also looks like those servers are dell-mini specific? Sorry, I dunno much about them. There are only a few failures, and they may be temporary or unimportant. What are you planning to do next?
[19:38] <Gabe> losher: am trying to send screen shot
[19:39] <Gabe> losher: there are a bunch of updates am trying to get dl'd
[19:39] <Gabe> losher: 115+ that won
[19:39] <losher> Gabe: no need for a screen shot. I can see everything of importance from the apt-get output.
[19:40] <marcellus> is there any downside choosing 64-bit Ubuntu over 32-bit?
[19:40] <Gabe> losher: wont install   k no prob  how do i get those to update?
[19:40] <losher> Gabe: what are you using to get the updates. Synaptic?
[19:40] <Vinceman> how do you enter programs in the Add/Remove list?
[19:40] <max99> some thing don't work 64bit
[19:40] <vigo> !update | Gabe
[19:41] <Gabe> losher: i don
[19:41] <losher> marcellus: 64-bit tends to be a bit less stable in my opinion, depending on which release. Unless you need more than 4GB swap space, it's not worth the bother...
[19:41] <Gabe> losher: i don
[19:41] <csaba> when I start X with startx the monitor freezes and I cannot do anything. I've tried downloading the latest ATI drivers, installed them, ran aticonfigure --initial, but it still won't work
[19:41] <yahooguntu> Vinceman: at the top there's a box you can type program names in. Just check the box and press "Apply" to install it.
[19:41] <Gabe> losher: damn mini keyboard
[19:41] <csaba> I've tried using an old xorg.conf without success
[19:41] <Gabe> losher:  ok i don
[19:41] <Vinceman> yahooguntu, it's the search box?
[19:41] <csaba> and there are no errors in /var/log/Xorg.0
[19:41] <eric-b> RMS in his full glory: http://lolwat.net/?w=7e9770a3b73fa829ed766264a0c61a9c
[19:42] <csaba> what could be wrong?
[19:42] <eric-b> heh
[19:42] <losher> Gabe: slow down & try again...
[19:42] <Gabe> i dont beleive it
[19:42] <yahooguntu> Vinceman: Yes. It will search as soon as you type something
[19:42] <edubruell> does anyone know how well the radeon HD 4570 works with ubuntu
[19:42] <losher> eric-b: nerdvana
[19:42] <Gabe> losher:  thanks for patience  ok  i don
[19:42] <yahooguntu> Vinceman: But you have to check the box next to the programs you want to install.
[19:42] <eric-b> losher, you mean the pipe or the food or the hair?
[19:42] <eric-b> or all of it!
[19:43] <edubruell> i plan to install jaunty or karmic on machine with a radeon HD 4570 card
[19:43] <Gabe> losher:  dont beleive its synaptic   also cant get firefox 3.5 to install
[19:43] <losher> eric-b: the whole package. He'll make some extra-terrestrial very happy one day...
[19:43] <Vinceman> yahooguntu: it says There is no matching application available.
[19:43] <eric-b> hah, you got that right
[19:43] <losher> Gabe: ff35 has a special trick to it.
[19:43] <losher> !ff35 | Gabe
[19:43] <nmvictor> whats the command to verify if a useraccount already exists, for my case i wish to verify with a command if user nagios already exists?
[19:44] <grawity> nmvictor: id nagios &> /dev/null
[19:44] <Gabe> losher:  what does that mean when you put a ! in front of ff35?
[19:44] <eric-b> nmvictor, id <userid>
[19:44] <losher> nmvictor: you could grep /etc/passwd for an entry, and/or check /home/nagios exists, or something...
[19:44] <grawity> nmvictor: or maybe, 'getent passwd nagios' would be better.
[19:44] <eric-b> id nagios is the better option
[19:44] <grawity> losher: It isn't always /etc/passwd.
[19:44] <yahooguntu> Vinceman: next to the search bar there should be a drop-down menu. Select "All Available Applications". This will make it so that all software, including "unofficial" software, is available to install.
[19:45] <mikepett> weird... when I use the my keyboard volume control knob, the volume goes up and down as it should according the the speaker volume indictaro on the taskbar, but he volume doesn't actually go up or down. Any ideas?
[19:45] <Pici> Gabe: Its a trigger for our channel bot ubottu, see its response to you above after losher used the command.
[19:45] <anto> irc.darksin.net
[19:45] <losher> Gabe: it means the channel bot has a recorded message on the subject. See http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=partition
[19:45] <csaba> could someone help me fix startx? Everything else in linux works... I run it in console mode
[19:46] <csaba> and it says the graphics card works too... except the screen is black
[19:46] <grawity> csaba: What is the exact problem, and what distribution are you using?
[19:46] <grawity> csaba: And do you have an ~/.xinitrc?
[19:46] <losher> grawity: that's true if using NIS etc. Please suggest a better recommendation...
[19:46] <grawity> losher: I already did, 'id nagios' or 'getent passwd nagios'.
[19:47] <mattgirv> csaba: If auto detection failed, you can always try configuring it yourself manually.
[19:47] <losher> grawity: very good, I learned something new...
[19:47] <Vinceman> yahooguntu do you need to be logged in as root or something?
[19:47] <dimi3> Hello, I have a problem running compiz. I have nvidia quadro nvs 140m. But when I'm watching movies and I do ALT+TAB the movie window starts to blink..
[19:47] <csaba> ubuntu 9.04 and there is no .xinitrc
[19:47] <mattgirv> csaba: Either way, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and go through the options to confirm the settings
[19:47] <nmvictor> grawity: eric-b losher thanks alot
[19:47] <grawity> csaba: Then you need to create one. startx uses ~/.xinitrc to find out what exactly to start.
[19:47] <csaba> mattgirv: I've tried dpkg-reconfigure and it didn't work
[19:47] <grawity> csaba: For example, you might put 'exec gnome-session' to .xinitrc (it is a simple shell script).
[19:47] <yahooguntu> Vinceman: No, it'll ask you for a password when it's ready to install. What's the name of the program you're trying to install?
[19:48] <csaba> ok i'll try
[19:48] <mgv1> can you give me a proxy so i can overcome the restrictions here? http://sounds.bl.uk/View.aspx?item=024M-1CL0005041XX-0100V0.xml
[19:48] <VCoolio> I use an alternative window manager; when I open gnome apps, gnome-settings-daemon gets started and switches themes and stuff; if I kill the daemon, everything is back except fonts (too big). How to revert that?
[19:48] <Gabe> losher:  so basically ff35 isnt available for my rig yet ... mentions jaunty but says heron has to stand by?  how do i update to jaunty on a netbook with no optical drive?  is it possible?
[19:49] <csaba> ok I've created the .xinitrc and wrote the exec gnome-session and it's again a black screen
[19:49] <grawity> mgv1: I suggest Tor.
[19:49] <csaba> it doesn't react to ctrl+alt+f1 so I cannot go back to console
[19:49] <Gabe> losher: in your opinion where the best site for command lists and how to get a noob on his feet and walking if not running?
[19:49] <csaba> however, it does react to the on/off button
[19:49] <mikepett> lemme try a reboot, weird
[19:50] <mattgirv> csaba: You said dpkg-reconfigure failed, what exactly did you type and what does it say/why does it fail?
[19:50] <csaba> mattgirv: it didn't fail, only after it startx didn't work as usual
[19:50] <csaba> i mean, it didn't fix  it
[19:50] <mgv1> grawity, i cound secced installing tor
[19:51] <Guest34122> hi people
[19:51] <csaba> I've tried autodetecting the keyboard and setting it manually
[19:51] <Blastur> anyone know if there is a console (no gui) terminal that allows 'tabs'?  (ie several terminals in one app, and the ability to switch between them quickly)
[19:51] <mattgirv> csaba: And you are 100% that your refresh rates are set properly
[19:51] <Guest34122> i need an advance
[19:51] <csaba> let me check
[19:51] <grawity> Blastur: 'screen' might be useful.
[19:51] <mattgirv> Because it does sound like an incorrect refresh rate/screen resolution
[19:51] <amcsi> I changed my ctrl-alt-delete key combination to gnome-system-moniter, and it worked for a while, but now it locks instead. please help.
[19:51] <csaba> mattgirv: where should it be defined? in xorg.conf?
[19:52] <losher> Gabe: I wouldn't update to Jaunty personally. It's not as stable as hardy. Must you have ff35 *today*. Most of us are managing just fine with 3.0.14 or some such. You can download a daily build if you absolutely cannot wait, but it might not be stable. As for best learning site, start here https://help.ubuntu.com/ and wander around...
[19:52] <amcsi> is CompizConfig doing it?
[19:52] <csaba> because there's nothing about a refresh rate there
[19:52] <coldflame23> hi
[19:52] <Blastur> grawity, yeah, though so too.. but how can i quickly swap between screen instances from a single connection?
[19:52] <coldflame23> anyone uses gwibber?
[19:52] <SecretAgentMan> Why is it so hard to set up a vpn behind a firewall?  I would think this is something that a lot of people need and the process would have been simplified.
[19:52] <mattgirv> csaba: Yes, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[19:52] <grawity> Blastur: You don't need to - you can have several windows in a single instance.  Basics: 'screen' to start a new session; 'screen -r' to reattach to an existing session; Ctrl-A, C to create a new window; Ctrl-A, A to switch between last two windows; Ctrl-A, N = next window; Ctrl-A, [0-9] = windows 0 to 9
[19:52] <csaba> I've also tried deleting the xorg.conf and according to the logs, it tried to failsafe with vesa, but that failed as well
[19:52] <Korlis> hello all
[19:52] <Korlis> im so happy i solved my problem
[19:53] <csaba> but I don't think it's a driver problem, because the ubuntu startup animation works
[19:53] <Blastur> grawity, cool,lemme try that
[19:53] <csaba> the splash screen i mean
[19:53] <Korlis> csaba, whats goin on
[19:53] <grawity> Blastur: If you have 'screen' running, press Ctrl-A, then press 'c', and it'll create a new window.
[19:53] <csaba> startx is not working
[19:53] <nmvictor> grawity: eric-b losher How about checking if a group exists?
[19:53] <Gabe> losher:  endless gratitude and thanks to you sir/ma'am
[19:53] <Korlis> what error is it giving you
[19:53] <grawity> nmvictor: 'getent group blahblah'
[19:53] <janhouse> Can anyone suggest any goof backup software on Linux?
[19:53] <janhouse> *good
[19:53] <losher> Gabe: a pleasure to be able to help....
[19:53] <Gabe> losher: do you have an email where I might pick your brain further in the future?
[19:54] <grawity> Blastur: Ctrl-A, ? gives a short list of shortcuts.
[19:54] <grimlock> hello to all
[19:54] <csaba> there is no error... according to /var/log/Xorg.0.log everything is perfect... but I get a black screen and can't do anything else... except the Power button, that works
[19:54] <Korlis> is it a laptop?
[19:54] <csaba> yes
[19:54] <losher> Gabe: sorry, I only do support on-line as available. But there are plenty of others like me (some of them a darn sight cleverer) on tap for you here...
[19:54] <Korlis> proibably just set to an external monitor, is there a hot button for that?
[19:55] <csaba> oh, maybe
[19:55] <Gabe> losher:  np  still thank you.  You
[19:55] <Vinceman> yahooguntu the Jin, FICS client
[19:55] <Gabe> losher:  you
[19:55] <csaba> let me check, I've got it today :)
[19:55] <Blastur> grawity, great, this is exactly what i needed. cheers
[19:55] <shakall69> hi all , i`ve upgraded to karmic, and now can`t even see the grub menu when booting how can i fix that
[19:55] <Pici> shakall69 : Please join #ubuntu+1 for Karmic/9.10 support/discussion.
[19:55] <shakall69> ty
[19:55] <Gabe> losher:  youre the one that stepped up and made it happen for me today so put a gold star on your fridge cause you rock
[19:56] <Blastur> btw, when is the next ubuntu LTS release schedule to release?
[19:56] <losher> nmvictor: not sure it's a definitive test. Depends how accurate you need to be
[19:56] <losher> Gabe: very cool, thanks...
[19:56] <ZykoticK9> Blastur, 10.4
[19:56] <csaba> hmm can't find any buttons
[19:56] <Korlis> april of 2010
[19:57] <csaba> but it's dual boot and vista works fine, so I don't think it's switched to another moitor
[19:57] <csaba> I didn't do no such thing, except change the resolution...
[19:57] <csaba> but I'm not sure if that caused it
[19:57] <nmvictor> losher: might have missed it, what was the command?i had a lag over here so irssi reconnected automatically, mind giving me the command again?
[19:57] <Korlis> ok, one of your buttons should have a picture of a monitor on it, |[ ]| look something like that, hold the fn key and push that
[19:57] <losher> nmvictor: the consensus seemed to be the "id" command...
[19:58] <losher> nmvictor: or to use 'getent...'
[19:59] <losher> nmvictor: if you don't run anything fancy like NIS, a simple grep of /etc/passwd will probably be enough...
[19:59] <KinG`PiN> Holy hollywood.
[19:59] <tabuk> llllllllllllllllllllllllll
[19:59] <csaba> there is such a button and I've tried pressing all the buttons like that, but it doesn't work
[20:00] <KinG`PiN> Massive list.
[20:00] <KinG`PiN> lewl.
[20:00] <csaba> if I press ctrl+alt+del shouldn't it restart?
[20:00] <grawity> nmvictor: For a user, 'getent passwd joe'
[20:00] <JohnN> lo all
[20:00] <csaba> because it doesn't
[20:00] <grawity> nmvictor: For a group, 'getent group joegroup'
[20:00] <Korlis> csaba: it is posisble that x.org is looking for anothe rmonitor itself, if that be the case just boot with a live cd and replace the xorg config file with the default one off the live cd
[20:00] <Xoop> Is there a way to pull back a file that was removed using "sudo rm filename"
[20:01] <grawity> Xoop: Most of the time - no.
[20:01] <csaba> Korlis: I have 7 old xorg.conf's and I've tried using them all, even the failsafe, but it didn't work
[20:01] <csaba> Korlis: I've also tried deleting it...
[20:01] <csaba> I mean, I'm in console mode now
[20:01] <ZykoticK9> Xoop, there are undelete programs for ext2 filesystems, i think if you're using ext3 then you're out of luck...
[20:01] <csaba> that works
[20:01] <losher> Xoop: in general, no. I don't suppose you have a backup...?
[20:01] <csaba> only when I write startx it dies
[20:02] <csaba> the keyboard stops reacting
[20:02] <csaba> however, the power button does work for some reason
[20:02] <csaba> it shuts down linux nicely
[20:02] <Brian___> im trying to use conky but it keeps flickering
[20:02] <server_side> how can i change the perms of all files in one dir and set it as default for that dir?
[20:02] <nmvictor> grawity: losher : thanks
[20:02] <diddy> I have the problem that my truecrypt partition was filled up completely until 0 bytes. Now I deleted a few gigabyte of stuff from the partition but it still shows up as o bytes in Nautilus. What can I do to fix that?
[20:02] <Korlis> csaba: have you tried alt+sysrq+k?
[20:02] <csaba> sysrq?
[20:02] <Korlis> print screen
[20:02] <boss_mc> how can I temporarily convert a desktop ubuntu to a headless server, I assume I need to stop X from starting?
[20:02] <Korlis> same button
[20:03] <dajhorn> diddy: Did you empty the trash folder?
[20:03] <diddy> Yes, I even deleted it.
[20:03] <Korlis> csaba: delete all the config files, then just use the file off a live cd that should bring it back to default
[20:03] <dajhorn> diddy: Open a prompt and run `df -h`.
[20:04] <dajhorn> diddy: Check whether the "Use%" column agrees with Nautilus.
[20:04] <TheVenerableZ> hey, does anyone know of a good graphics card that'll work in ubuntu for 2x 22" widescreen monitors?
[20:04] <diddy> dajhorn, /dev/mapper/truecrypt1
[20:04] <diddy>                       459G  438G     0 100% /media/truecrypt1
[20:04] <Korlis> csaba: if that dont work you can try booting into rescue mode from grub and choosing the fix x.org option
[20:04] <diddy> dajhorn, but for sure there must be a few gigbyte free
[20:04] <csaba> ok I was prssing ctrl+sysrq+alt+k and it printed out something :)
[20:05] <csaba> Unmount shoW-blocked-tasks
[20:05] <losher> boss_mc: I usually just do 'sudo mv /usr/sbin/gdm /usr/sbin/gdm.orig' and 'sudo mv /usr/bin/nautilus /usr/bin/nautilus.orig'. Easily reversed...
[20:05] <dajhorn> dajhorn: There is, but it is probably reserved for the root user.  (See how 459 is not 438, but you've got 100%.)
[20:05] <csaba> the keyboard is still dead
[20:05] <aleron> does anybody know the command to making the update manager stop popping up constantly
[20:05] <aleron> its getting real annoying
[20:05] <server_side> xi cant run any files on apache local host, forbidden any ideas?
[20:05] <boss_mc> losher: does that drop it to command prompt?
[20:05] <Korlis> csaba: you dont need ctrl, just alt, what it does is give the keyboard control again and kills all processes and logs you out
[20:05] <TheVenerableZ> Nvidia supports ubuntu natively, right?
[20:05] <LOLZebra> So I suppose I can't use the gflrx drivers for the ati radeon 9700 (mobility) ?
[20:06] <boss_mc> losher: and will that run without a graphics card?
[20:06] <dajhorn> diddy: Do you run your system out of /media/truecrypt1?  Or it is just for stuff.
[20:06] <diddy> dajhorn, just backup stuff
[20:06] <csaba> ah it did log me out!
[20:06] <csaba> cool at least I didnt have to restart
[20:06] <losher> boss_mc: it definitely will drop to the command prompt if you reboot. A restart alone might not do it...
[20:07] <csaba> ok in the old console tty1 I got an error from the ati driver
[20:07] <boss_mc> losher: cheers, I'll give that a go...
[20:07] <dajhorn> diddy: Is the /media/truecrypt1 filesystem ext2/ext3/ext4?
[20:07] <csaba> fglrx: No matching Device section for instance blahblah found giving up.
[20:07] <diddy> ext3
[20:07] <diddy> dajhorn, ext3
[20:07] <losher> boss_mc: I'm not 100% sure it will come all the way up without a graphics card. Anyone?
[20:07] <Korlis> csaba: ooooooo, if you had said you had ati i woulda just said this from the beginning
[20:08] <Korlis> csaba: uninstall the ati driver
[20:08] <csaba> how?
[20:08] <andyb> aleron: Disable automatic updates via settings on the update manager.
[20:08] <Korlis> csaba: with apt, i dont know the package name
[20:08] <csaba> apt-get remove fglrx?
[20:08] <boss_mc> losher: there will be the onboard graphics
[20:08] <Korlis> csaba: ati sucks with linux
[20:08] <dajhorn> diddy:  You can get that 20GB back by doing this:  $ sudo umount /media/truecrypt1;  sudo tune2fs -m 0 /dev/mapper/truecrypt1
[20:08] <csaba> ok so after I uninstall it, then what?
[20:09] <Korlis> csaba: i had a friend with a similar problem i just had him return the ati and buy nvidia
[20:09] <losher> boss_mc: should be fine then. It's just that some modern mobos won't boot without a graphics card....
[20:09] <Korlis> csaba: reboot
[20:09] <dajhorn> diddy: Double check the device names, and answer "no" if it says something scary like "are you really sure?".
[20:09] <leaf-sheep> aleron: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Change%20in%20notifications%20of%20available%20updates
[20:09] <Korlis> csaba: i gott ago leave me a message if you still need help
[20:10] <csaba> delete xorg.conf first? or replace it with xorg.conf.failsafe
[20:10] <csaba> ok thanks
[20:10] <diddy> dajhorn, you are brilliant!
[20:10] <diddy> Now I am at 21GB! Thx so much!
[20:10] <boss_mc> losher good point, well, I know this one will boot into windows without one, so I'd assume it will work with ubuntu
[20:10] <dajhorn> diddy:  Np.
[20:10] <losher> boss_mc: yep, should work just fine. Good luck...
[20:11] <boss_mc> cheers
[20:11] <diddy> dajhorn, :)
[20:12] <csaba> Korlis: it works!!! thanks alot man, I was working on this for 4-5 hours! :))
[20:12] <hanshenrik> im on a laptop; the built-in sound-card does not work (hardware failoure), and i have a external usb sound-card, that worked perfectly the first time i put it in while running ubuntu, but when i took it out and in again, it wont play anything with the usb sound-card (i do  find the card on Volume Controll tho, and i know its all plugged in correctly etc because it ran with my other OS (XP)
[20:12] <hanshenrik> what do?
[20:12] <server_side> is there any software to help you with the teerminal like commands that can be saved ,alias etc?
[20:13] <Hiall> Is it possible to change my locale from UTF8 to LATIN1?
[20:13] <yahooguntu> Vinceman: That's a Java applet. It runs within your browser. All you need to install is the Java Runtime Environment.
[20:13] <grawity> Hiall: It is, but why would you want to do that?
[20:13] <grawity> server_side: What do you mean by that?
[20:13] <Hiall> so I can use postgresql db thats made in latin1 rather than utf8 :|
[20:14] <server_side> navigating directorys , does it always have to be typed from scratch?
[20:15] <jimcooncat> server_side: you know about tab-completion?
[20:15] <toxica> help , im installing right now ubuntu from cd and im on "prepare disk space" and i want want to keep my partition and dont know where to put to keep my partition
[20:15] <server_side> no
[20:15] <eggmanpete> anyone know why I can't set my time using the 'Set date and time'? It keeps getting reset when i cahnge it. Using gnome
[20:15] <boss_mc> losher: how can I shut it down now?
[20:15] <boss_mc> losher: sudo shutdown now goes to the recovery menu
[20:16] <afallenhope> hey how do I get my swap to turn on, on boot?
[20:16] <losher> server_side: if I understand what you're asking, the terminal runs a program called bash, which has a truly enormous number of features available, including the ability to create command aliases. start with 'man bash' and your eyes will cross. Maybe see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommandlineHowto
[20:16] <server_side> thanks
[20:16] <afallenhope> my swap partition was reverted to a NTFS partition, so I used gparted and changed it to a swap partition.. but I have to turn it on manuall via sudo swapon /dev/sda7
[20:17] <grawity> afallenhope: Usually swap partitions are added to /etc/fstab
[20:17] <afallenhope> grawity, for some reason it wasn't in there
[20:17] <grawity> UUID=blahblah swap swap defaults 0 0
[20:17] <losher> boss_mc: that doesn't sound right at all. Usually the recovery menu happens when the system can't boot properly...
[20:18] <afallenhope> # swap was on /dev/sda7 during installation UUID=e78eb557-f301-4a70-88bb-c975bc6a5e44 none            swap    sw
[20:18] <boss_mc> losher: I think that it treats not being able to find the gdm executable counts as a failed boot...
[20:18] <afallenhope> however, I have to manually turn it on
[20:18] <toxica> help , im installing right now ubuntu from cd and im on "prepare disk space" and i want want to keep my partition and dont know where to put to keep my partition
[20:18] <jimcooncat> server_side: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Command_line_completion, neat demo at top of article
[20:19] <geirha> afallenhope: The UUID has probably changed. Run «sudo blkid» and compare
[20:19] <afallenhope> !swap
[20:19] <thiebaude> toxica, are you trying to dual-boot?
[20:19] <losher> boss_mc: sigh. of course it works perfectly well for me. Oh, well, put them back, get it booting again, and we'll try something else....
[20:19] <afallenhope> geirha, it's not the same uuid so should I just change it?
 i have 2 boots and i want to put on the second boot
[20:19] <boss_mc> losher: can do
[20:20] <thiebaude> !dual-boot
[20:20] <geirha> afallenhope: Yes, if the swap partition has been part of a partition move/resize or similar, it has likely been recreated, which changes the uuid
[20:20] <nmvictor> whats the name of the group virtual box creates during installation?
[20:20] <afallenhope> geirha, so in the fstab just change the UUID?
[20:20] <geirha> afallenhope: Yes
[20:20] <llutz> nmvictor: vboxusers
[20:21] <toxica> help , im installing right now ubuntu from cd and im on "prepare disk space" and i want want to keep my partition and dont know where to put to keep my partition
[20:21] <nmvictor> llutz: thanks
[20:21] <afallenhope> thanks geirha
[20:22] <durt> toxica, if you haven't changed anything it's best to cancel and read up on what you have to do.
[20:23] <boss_mc> losher: booting normally now
[20:23] <boss_mc> losher: I tried moving S30gdm to s30gdm in /etc/rc2.d/ but that didn't help either
[20:24] <boss_mc> losher: had the same problem as yours does
[20:24] <toxica> durt : i have vista on C and i want to install Ubuntu on D so what to do
[20:24] <thiebaude> toxica, you have the live cd?
[20:25] <toxica> durt : i have 3 options . "install them side by side " , "use the entire disk " or Specify partitions manualy
 yes
[20:25] <thiebaude> toxica, run the cd and when you get to the partioning part select install side by side
[20:25] <thiebaude> toxica, thats the easiest way to do it
 it will install it on the other partiton ?
[20:26] <thiebaude> toxica, yes, if you select side by side option
 thank u
[20:26] <thiebaude> toxica, it doesn't even touch windows
 i dont want it touch the C
[20:26] <thiebaude> toxica, follow it carefully
[20:26] <geirha> toxica: Is D: an empty windows parition?
[20:26] <PSP> i have a bin file ---> RealPlayer11GOLD.bin  how do i install it?!!!
[20:26] <server_side> how do i check if a certain process is running?
[20:27] <vid1> Hi. I am trying to establish Ubuntu-XP network over firewrite cable. XP sees the 1394 device, but I have problem with ubuntu. I see firewire device in lspci, I have ohci1394, ieee1394, raw1394 and eth1394 modules installed, but I don't see any new interface with ifconfig as I supposedly should. Anyone has some idea what to try?
[20:27] <thiebaude> toxica, dont touch the ntfs partition
 it tells me before you can select a new partiton size any previous changes have to be written to disk , You can't undo this operation , please note that resize operation may take a long time
[20:27] <boss_mc> PSP: I would guess making it executable (chmod +x <filename>) then doing ./<filename>
 GO BACK or Continue
[20:27] <thiebaude> toxica, did you select side by side?
[20:27] <Whitor> Hi. I'm moving to a new laptop and will be starting with a fresh install (9.04 or maybe 9.10) I would like to move my settings from my current 8.10 install to my new computer. Is there any way I can do this easily ?
 i have one empty and one full
 im about to chose it
 but it tells me that words so i want to get sure
[20:28] <geirha> toxica: Ubuntu can't install on windows partitions. The best thing to do is to remove the empty partition, and let ubuntu create its own
[20:28] <thiebaude> toxica, ok, be careful and choose side by side and let ubuntu do the rest
[20:29] <geirha> toxica: You can do that with the manual partitioning
[20:29] <geirha> toxica: in the Ubuntu installer
[20:29] <jordanwb> I just performed a Port Scan on my laptop and found 7 ports open. How do I find out what processes have opened those ports?
[20:29] <Whitor> geirha, ubuntu absolutely can be installed on a windows partition
[20:29] <toxica> toxic : dev/sda2 is green
[20:29] <guntbert> jordanwb: lsof -i
[20:29] <llutz> jordanwb: sudo netstat -tulpen
[20:29]  * thiebaude hands it off to others
[20:30] <geirha> Whitor: Yes, as a file on a windows partition, but that won't give the full benefit of ubuntu
 Partition formating
[20:30] <MenZa> Whitor: I'm assuming you have just one / partition now, yeah?
[20:30] <Whitor> geirha, right
[20:30] <grawity> geirha: It will - the only downsides of Wubi are lack of hibernation, and less reliable filesystem.
[20:30] <Whitor> MenZa, no... I have multiple actually
[20:30] <jordanwb> llutz: Thanks
[20:31] <MenZa> Whitor: Do you have a seperate /home partition?
[20:31] <Whitor> MenZa, I do not ... but I have a home dir
[20:31] <linuxguy2009> not working
[20:31] <boss_mc> losher: any other ideas?
[20:31] <geirha> grawity: Yes, but clearly, since toxica has a whole empty partition at hand, a proper install is the way to go
[20:31] <Whitor> MenZa, yeah I have one /
[20:31] <Whitor> I mis read your q
[20:32] <guntbert> linuxguy2009: waht is "not working"?
[20:32] <guntbert> what
[20:32] <linuxguy2009> sorry wrong window.
[20:32] <MenZa> Right. I suggest you copy your entire /home directory over to a different medium, install from scratch, this time creating a seperate /home partition over. You can then move the info onto that partition. The upsides to having a seperate /home partition is that you can just install a fresh system on the / partition, and all your files and settings remain intact.
[20:32] <MenZa> @ Whitor, pardon me for that
[20:32] <thiebaude> toxica, lets us know what happens
[20:33] <Whitor> geirha, wubi uses ext3 fs I beleive. I should be identicle to a clean install on a new partition
[20:33] <Whitor> I = it
[20:33] <thiebaude> !wubi
[20:33] <LOLZebra> nobody talks
[20:33] <Keiffer> how do you make a user that doesn't require password?
[20:34] <wximango> ola
[20:34] <geirha> Whitor: ext3 in a file on an NTFS partition. One becomes dependant on windows to fix eventual errors on the NTFS partition to have ubuntu work
[20:34] <Whitor> MenZa, ok... good idea. thats actually what I was planning on doing ... but certain apps are going to have a prob with that... firefox comes to mind
[20:34] <wximango> alguem por ai
[20:34] <guntbert> LOLZebra:  do you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:34] <MenZa> Whitor: Shouldn't be a major problem.
[20:34] <guntbert> !es | wximango
[20:34] <geirha> Whitor: Not to mention the problems with fragmentation on ntfs
[20:35] <aleron> does anybody know whats the command is it that can tell what version of gtk i have
[20:35] <Whitor> geirha, the file shold not become fragmented if its not fragmented to begin with
[20:35] <VCoolio> Keiffer: in system > prefs > login window > authentication you can enable automatic login
[20:35] <djbpython> why is ubuntu 9.04 insanely slow on a modern system?
[20:35] <Whitor> created on fragmented space... that is
[20:35] <Keiffer> VCoolio, no, i have multiple users..
[20:35] <thiebaude> djbpython, its blazing fast on my dual core
[20:35] <MenZa> djbpython: It isn't for me. Nor is it for most others.
[20:35] <Keiffer> djbpython, is it slow?
[20:36] <geirha> Whitor: Right, that's true.
[20:36] <djbpython> menza, right, which is why i think i must be doing something wrong
[20:36] <MenZa> djbpython: Well. State how it's slow, what sort of system you have, and maybe we can help you from there.
[20:36] <djbpython> Keiffer, insanely slow
[20:36] <Xcerca> are there any issues with ATI crossfire and ubuntu ?  like will compiz and dual monitors still work ?  is the ATI driver install just like the nVidia driver ? is there a GUI to control everything ?
[20:36] <chimp> If you are ssh'd to a server and lose a connection, your can't type exit to close ssh, and ctrl-c doesnt work, what can i do to force ssh to close other than kill it?
[20:36] <thiebaude> djbpython, how much ram do you have?
[20:36] <djbpython> 1.6 dual core AMD with 1gig of RAM
[20:36] <Keiffer> djbpython, is just you system or is a general bug?
[20:37] <MenZa> chimp: Just... kill it?
[20:37] <thiebaude> djbpython, im close to you ,i have amd 1.8 2gb ram
[20:37] <djbpython> I have firefox, a few terminal windows, xchat, and a few file system browsers open
[20:37] <chimp> MenZa: Thats an ugly solution if you dont have x, you have to log in again if it isnt run through screen
[20:37] <thiebaude> djbpython, what graphics card?
[20:37] <djbpython> it is thrashing my disk hard
[20:37] <soreau> Xcerca: Yes, there is amdcccle gui to control fglrx but I cannot say if fglrx works with crossfire and you'd need the graphics driver working to use compiz
[20:38]  * Whitor loves compiz
[20:38] <victor__> quien habla español
[20:38] <djbpython> thiebaude, don't know
[20:38] <soreau> Xcerca: If fglrx supports crossfire, everything should work including monitors
[20:38] <DJones> !es | victor__
[20:38] <MenZa> !es | victor__
[20:38] <thiebaude> Whitor, me too
[20:38] <Whitor> compiz (beryl in the day) was the trigger that got me to switch completely from that other os
[20:39] <soreau> Whitor: me three
[20:39] <victor__> ok
[20:39] <thiebaude> soreau, haha
[20:39] <Mdyter> Hello Ubuntu Community !
[20:39] <Whitor> hello Mdyter
[20:39]  * thiebaude lets see windows 7 do that
[20:39] <Xcerca> soreau, thanks , do you have an ATI video card ?
[20:39] <thiebaude> lol
[20:39] <soreau> Xcerca: Yes
[20:40] <Whitor> win7 has some cool effects ... but still not like compiz
[20:40] <chimp> MenZa: ahh I found it, incase you are interested ~ is the escape key in ssh and ~. will quit
[20:40] <devourer09> Are there any packages for installing drivers for the Intel G33 graphics card?
[20:40] <thiebaude> yea it does, but....
 no select up between linux and vista
[20:40] <Whitor> I like the icon lighting effect as the mouse hovers over an icon in Windows7
[20:40] <Xcerca> is their a GUI to set up resolition and all of that ?  does compiz work fine ?
[20:40] <Xcerca> soreau  ^^
[20:40] <afallenhope> update-manager keeps telling me there's a dist upgrade :-s
[20:40] <markit> with qtconfig I've changed font, but only qtconfig seems get that new font size. Other kde4 apps in gnome have a small font size, how can I fix it?
[20:40] <guntbert> !ot | Whitor toxica thiebaude - kids :-)
[20:40] <thiebaude> !grub | toxica
[20:41] <soreau> Xcerca: I use the open source driver and compiz works fine with it. I used fglrx years ago and it too is quite capable of running compiz
[20:41] <thiebaude> guntbert, sorry i got carried away
[20:41] <VCoolio> Keiffer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=513820 also read the last post there, seems really easy but never tried myself
[20:41] <thiebaude> hmm kids
[20:41] <djbpython> constantly having to force quit windows
[20:41] <Xcerca> soreau  , cool , have you ever tried the one from AMD/ATI  ?
[20:41] <Mdyter> i'm first time on irc, with who i can speak about a problem?
[20:41] <soreau> Xcerca: The one from AMD/ATI is fglrx
[20:41] <guntbert> !ask | Mdyter
[20:41] <Keiffer> VCoolio, Tahnks you
[20:42] <Xcerca> Mdyter,  everyone is fine
[20:42] <toxica> !love <thiebaude> thank u alot man :) see u later byebye
[20:42] <soreau> Xcerca: It is also referred to as catalyst or the proprietary driver
[20:42] <Xcerca> soreau , thanks,  and it's open source ??
[20:42] <thiebaude> toxica, ok, no problem
[20:42] <Whitor> Mdyter, anyone! just ask
[20:42] <soreau> Xcerca: Proprietary = closed source
[20:43] <soreau> Xcerca: The open source driver is called 'radeon' or the open ati driver. Since AMD has released specs and has full time developers for linux drivers now, things are really shaping up for the open driver
[20:44] <Mdyter> i have a problem with internet in ubuntu 9.04 . i have usb  adsl modem, can't make it  work on ubu. so i have to use M$ to have acces to internet
[20:44] <jimmy51__> this is probably going to sound ridiculous, but i have a driver problem.  i have an HP Smart Array P212 that I need to support on the windows XP kernel.  HP doesn't have drivers for anything older than server 2003.  The Smart Array works fine for my ubuntu boxes.
[20:44] <markit> Mdyter: so you have two problem,s
[20:44] <jimmy51__> can i somehow take the linux driver and compile for windows?
[20:44] <markit> the second having to use M$ ;)
[20:44] <soreau> Mdyter: Can you get to a terminal and type 'lsusb' while the modem is plugged in and show us the output?
[20:45] <tehbaut> has anyone seen any window-docking untilities for ubuntu similar to win7's 'half-screen' docking feature?
[20:45] <Xcerca> soreau , cool , i'm about to get some ATI cards and have crossfire set up (because my mobo doesn't support SLI)  ,  anything you'd recomend ?
[20:45] <afallenhope> !swap
[20:45] <server_side> how can i install lamp on ubuntu
[20:45] <Sahilsk> hey....there some problem in my ubuntu  9.04, some day b4 i had a virus on window xp. Virus was too strong that even norton fail b4 him.still i m not able to install window as that virus come every time i install the new window.I now stopped installing window  and working on ubuntu. But sometime automatically, mouse start behaving madly. Trash folder open up on its own and keep opening  for some moment.In the end i find i have lots of trash folder opene
[20:45] <Sahilsk> d on my desktop.This problem come very often when i work  with firefox, though opera show such problem , but not more often. Any clue wat going on inside ubuntu.and do suggest some nice antiviurs if it's virus problem.
[20:45] <Pici> !lamp | server_side
[20:46] <soreau> Xcerca: I can't speak for the newer ati cards or crossfire since I haven't tested. Either google, phoronix forums or ask in #radeon even
[20:46] <llutz> Mdyter: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-networking/8853-connecting-usb-cable-modem-linux.html
[20:46] <Xcerca> cool , thanks
[20:47] <SeekerNL> can someone explain me when I have 4gb of memory why only 2.9 gb is showing in systemmonitor ( shared gpu memory is 512 )
[20:48] <llutz> SeekerNL: use 64bit OS to use full 4GB (or PAE-kernel with performance-loss)
[20:48] <SeekerNL> I am using amd64
[20:48] <tehbaut> hmmm, so no one has seen any window-docking untilities for ubuntu similar to win7's 'half-screen' docking feature?
[20:48] <nota9> tehbaut no but I want that too.
[20:49] <SeekerNL> llutz I use amd64 so thats not It I am really sure I installed amd64
[20:49] <tehbaut> hmmm
[20:49] <tehbaut> yeah, it seems extremely useful nota9
[20:49] <nota9> tried to look for it for use with metacity
[20:49] <trijntje> SeekerNL, so it shows 3.4 GB memory total
[20:49] <trijntje> ?
[20:49] <boss_mc> anyone know how I can temporarily disable the graphical interface on jaunty (so I can use it as a headless server temporarily)
[20:50] <SeekerNL> no 2,9 ( but I know gpu takes 512 )
 yes ) 2 problems)     <soreau> yes, i can. i will make it now and after write the output    <llutz> thx) i'll read and try
[20:50] <hanshenrik> say i got 2x sound-cards in my computer, and both of them work, how do i change the default sound-card to use?
[20:50] <grawity> boss_mc: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[20:50] <shawn_> Im probably going to be upgrading Ubuntu to the 64 bit version because I heard it works better with Virtualization... Has anyone ever tried the 64 bit version and does it work well?
[20:50] <Xcerca> boss_mc  in terminal do  sudo init 2
[20:50] <VCoolio> SeekerNL: a few months ago ubuntu didn't support more than 3 Gb; anyway, you won't need the last Gb I suppose
[20:50] <llutz> Mdyter: 1st module is called "cdc_ether", not CDCEther
[20:50] <SeekerNL> so yes without gpu talking memory that would be 3,4
[20:50] <Xcerca> boss_mc  , it will just take you to a command prompt
[20:50] <Pici> !runlevels | Xcerca boss_mc
[20:50] <kosinski> nara pl
[20:50] <boss_mc> Xcerca: grawity: I want it to be a like that from boot (so I don't need a monitor/keyboard/mouse)
[20:51] <SeekerNL> VCoolio I dont need it but I pay for it
[20:51] <Guest8508> hey i have a problem here. I have a bunch of .avi i am trying to play but everytime i open it up in movie player it crashes.... i tried another program (vlc) it also crashed..... im thinking there is a problem with the codecs... i just wanted to know if anyone else has had this problem and if so how to fix it.
[20:51] <xxx19ukxx> hot show for cam only for text menssage people interested add to gene_martines@hotmail.com
[20:51] <guntbert> SeekerNL: system monitor seems sometimes hmpf - what does free (on the commend line) show?
[20:51] <VCoolio> SeekerNL: that's the (dutch) spirit, but you didn't pay for ubuntu :)
[20:51] <erUSUL> boss_mc: sudo update-rc -f gdm remove when you want to enable it again sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults
[20:51] <trijntje> !who | SeekerNL
[20:52] <boss_mc> erUSUL: when I tried that, it worked sort of but I couldn't shut down the computer
[20:52] <trijntje> SeekerNL, I think thats just the difference between 4*10^9 and 4*2^30
[20:52]  * Strife89 forgets how to check removable devices. For example, is my SD card /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc?
[20:52] <boss_mc> erUSUL: 'sudo shutdown now' went to the recovery screen
[20:52] <erUSUL> boss_mc: :|
[20:53] <ctmjr> Guest8508: try running it it terminal and see what error's you get for vlc run cvlc "path to .avi"
[20:53] <mee> boss_mc: taking a look at /etc/event.d/rc-default, it looks like you can put the default runlevel in /etc/inittab
[20:53] <guntbert> erUSUL: do you know if there is a factoid about "sudo update-rc -f gdm remove" ?
[20:53] <Pici> mee: We don't use /etc/inittab on Ubuntu.
[20:53] <SeekerNL> !tab | guntbert http://paste.ubuntu.com/277364/
[20:54] <boss_mc> mee: but in ubuntu runlevels 2, 3, 4 are the samee
[20:54] <mee> Pici: what's that all about in rc-default, then?
[20:54] <Toxica> Hey !!! i installed my ubuntu side by side with vista but it created a new partiton beside the two partitons i have and with low free disk space
[20:54] <SeekerNL> guntbert http://paste.ubuntu.com/277364/
[20:54] <shawn_> What's the easiest way to switch from 32 bit to 64 bit Ubuntu? Just use the Ubuntu boot disk to format the Ubuntu partition and install on top?
[20:54]  * Strife89 forgets how to check removable devices. For example, how would I check to see whether my SD card /dev/sdb or /dev/sdc?
[20:54] <mee> cruft, I guess
[20:54] <jrib> boss_mc: and 5!
[20:54] <erUSUL> guntbert: i do not see the point of one. what should the factoid be  about ?
[20:54] <boss_mc> jrib: typo!
[20:55] <Pici> mee: Its just for compatibility's sake.
[20:55] <erUSUL> shawn_: yes reinstall is the best option
[20:55] <guntbert> erUSUL: my bad memory :-), but never mind
[20:55] <mee> hmm, ok. Then ignore my suggestion as it sounds like it's a bad practice in ubuntu
[20:55] <shawn_> erUSUL Have you ever tried the 64 bit version?  Will I still beable to use most of the programs in synaptic?
[20:55] <SeekerNL> !tab trijntje I think its weird my 4 gb don show up
[20:55] <erUSUL> guntbert: but you are free to try to add one. just contact ubottu in private
[20:56] <pen> hi
[20:56] <erUSUL> shawn_: i run 64 bit since intrepid
[20:56] <Pici> SeekerNL: Please stop using !tab before your responses.  The factoid means to use your tab key on your keyboard to complete people's names.
[20:56] <shawn_> erUSUL and everything works fine?
[20:56] <pen> anyone know how to recursively use rm to delete all subfolders with name .svn?
[20:56] <trijntje> SeekerNL, !<something> is just to let the robot (ubottu) say some automatic stuf
[20:56] <pen> I want to delete them
[20:56] <erUSUL> shawn_: yes
[20:56] <Toxica>  Hey !!! i installed my ubuntu side by side with vista but it created a new partiton beside the two partitons i have and with low free disk space
[20:56] <Pici> SeekerNL: I don't think you are running the 64 bit version of Ubuntu, what does the output of uname -a say?
[20:56] <shawn_> erUSUL thanks Ill definately switch to that now then to take advantage of my 8 gigs of RAM
[20:56] <Juzzy> Toxica: it didn't, you did.
[20:56] <trijntje> SeekerNL, there is a difference between what vendors think 4GB is and what ubuntu thinks 4GiB is
[20:57] <erUSUL> pen: i would use « find folder -type d -name '.svn' -delete »
[20:57] <jrib> Toxica: what do you want to do now?
[20:57] <cellofellow> anybody here know anything about dbus? Occasionally my system dbus daemon starts to eat about 30% CPU, sometimes more. I can't find any consistent trigger for it. I did dump a few seconds from dbus-monitor --system into a file. http://tinyurl.com/y8zb55g
[20:57] <pen> erUSUL: find has -type flag? interesting
[20:57] <Guest8508> ctmjr: in quotes???
[20:57] <SeekerNL> Pici Linux Seeker 2.6.31-10-generic #34-Ubuntu SMP Wed Sep 16 01:09:15 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:57] <jacquesdupontd> hey guys
[20:57] <pen> erUSUL: wait, find folder?
[20:57] <pen> erUSUL: I thought there is only find
[20:57] <Pici> SeekerNL: What version of Ubuntu are you running there?
[20:57] <jacquesdupontd> could you remind me a good desktop recorder ?
[20:57] <cellofellow> oops, wrong url
[20:57] <jacquesdupontd> to make a video of compiz ?
[20:57] <Toxica> jrib : to make 2 paritons 1 partion
[20:57] <SeekerNL> aplha 6
[20:57] <Pici> SeekerNL: Then you need to be asking in #ubuntu+1
[20:57] <jrib> Toxica: you realize you will lose data?
[20:58] <guntbert> SeekerNL: that is "just a little" more than on 3 genuine 3GB system (3054624), so I'd suspect your video grabs more than you thought
[20:58] <erUSUL> pen: instead of folder put the actual folder you want to do the clean up
[20:58] <Pici> !karmic | SeekerNL
[20:58] <devourer09> Are there any packages for installing drivers for the Intel G33 graphics card?
[20:58] <SeekerNL> my video grabs 512 guntbert
[20:58] <cellofellow> here's a dump from dbus-monitor --system for a few seconds while it's hogging CPU. http://tinyurl.com/ydtquuv
[20:58] <pen> erUSUL: I want to find all .svn in the subfolder from my pwd
[20:58] <Toxica>  jrib : no but ubuntu created new partiton beside of the empty one and wanna mix them together
[20:58] <devourer09> How do I install drivers for the intel garphics card g33?
[20:58] <devourer09> graphics*
[20:58] <jrib> Toxica: delete the one you don't want and expand the one you want to keep using gparted
[20:59] <erUSUL> pen: then type -> find nameofthesubfolderfrommypwd -type d ...
[20:59] <erUSUL> devourer09: they should be already installed and running
[20:59] <erUSUL> !intel | devourer09
[20:59] <Toxica> jrtib : what to delete its empty and i have only 50 mb free
[20:59] <ctmjr> Guest8508: no quotes
[20:59] <devourer09> erUSUL: Thank you. :)
[20:59] <jrib> Toxica: the partition.
[20:59] <erUSUL> devourer09: no problem
[21:00] <pen> erUSUL: btw, -delete is invalid predicate
[21:00] <pen> erUSUL: type works, name works. just delete is not
[21:01] <jrib> pen: it should be valid
[21:01] <cadu_> quit
[21:01] <sebsebseb> hi
[21:01] <pen> jrib: I type find -name '.svn' -type d -delete
[21:01] <pen> jrib: it says -delete is not valid
[21:01] <jrib> pen: are you using ubuntu?
[21:01] <pen> jrib: kinda
[21:02] <erUSUL> pen:  use « find folder -type d -name '.svn' -exec rm -r {} \; »
[21:02] <jrib> pen: then -delete is kinda valid :)
[21:02] <nota9> -delete is in the man page...
[21:02] <pen> erUSUL: ok I will try that, but do I need back tick?
[21:02] <pen> erUSUL:  and what does {} do?
[21:02] <jacquesdupontd> please
[21:02] <erUSUL> jrib: nota9 pen yes is in the man page maybe it does not work in directories ?
[21:02]  * jrib tests
[21:02] <nota9> fair enough
[21:02] <jacquesdupontd> i just one the name of the best and more light real time desktop recorder
[21:02] <shang> hi all, does anyone know how to apply this patch (http://bugzilla-attachments.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=143915) to totem ???
[21:03] <erUSUL> jrib: nota9 pen or in "non empty" directories (just as plain rm)
[21:03] <jrib> erUSUL: right, but it won't say it's not valid
[21:04] <erUSUL> pen: {} is where the name of the folder will be put by find when execing the command
[21:04] <pen> erUSUL: why need the back slash?
[21:04] <TomBridzas> hi i want ask some stupid question ar Ubuntu update automatic vga drivers
[21:04] <pen> erUSUL: and ;
[21:04] <TomBridzas> like my vga ati radeon x550
[21:04] <TomBridzas> i need found manual thows drivers
[21:04] <TomBridzas> or not
[21:04] <nota9> erUSUL et al "find dir1 -type d -name '.svn' -delete" worked fine for me
[21:04] <TomBridzas> thanks for answer :D
[21:04] <sebsebseb> TomBridzas: there is no answer yet, but i'll do one
[21:05] <pen> nota9: weird
[21:05] <erUSUL> pen: to protect agains shell expansion surprises... really go *read* the *man* *page*
[21:05] <sebsebseb> TomBridzas: Be clear, have you got drivers on there right now for ATI that work?  and it's Ubuntu 9.04 yes?
[21:05] <pen> erUSUL: just lazy :P
[21:05] <TomBridzas> yes
[21:05] <TomBridzas> ubuntu 9.04
[21:05] <TomBridzas> :)
[21:05] <sebsebseb> TomBridzas: With working ATI drivers?
[21:05] <jrib> pen: life is usually a lot more interesting when you are not lazy
[21:06] <nmvictor> i wish to redirect a commands ouput(1) and any arror messages(2) to /dev/null i have done a <command> 1>/dev/null to redirect the output, how do i redirect the errors on the same command?
[21:06] <Piranah> Anyone have any experience with mx5000-tool ?
[21:06] <TomBridzas> well i think yes becouse video things looks good
[21:06] <llutz> nmvictor: 2>&1
[21:06] <TomBridzas> :D
[21:06] <pen> jrib: you are right sir. but sometimes it's easier to be lazy
[21:06] <sebsebseb> TomBridzas: right ok, and for some reason you want to upgrade to even later drivers, why is that?
[21:06] <cwall> hey there... how to fix "/etc/sudoers is mode 0640, should be 0440" remote?
[21:06] <cwall> remotely
[21:06] <jrib> cwall: no idea why it says that?
[21:06] <gustavolm> force acpi ?
[21:06] <cwall> restart in safe mode w/ networking (ssh)?
[21:07] <jrib> pen: not in the long run
[21:07] <pen> jrib: erUSUL: thx for the help anyway
[21:07] <gustavolm> command ..
[21:07] <pen> jrib: i'm just lazy for this time
[21:07] <nmvictor> llutz: so should i append that on the same line? as in something like  1>/dev/null 2>&1
[21:07] <TomBridzas> well i just want thet my pc by up to date :D
[21:07] <cwall> jrib: i screwed w/ my sudoers file
[21:07] <jrib> pen: ok (you are going in my book)
[21:07] <llutz> nmvictor: yes
[21:07] <jrib> cwall: what did you do exactly?
[21:07] <TomBridzas> and evrything work good
[21:07] <nmvictor> llutz: thanks
[21:07] <sebsebseb> TomBridzas: ok I see,  well  I recommend not upgrading to  later drivers,  because it can mess things up
[21:07] <cwall> sudo chmod 666 /etc/sudoers
[21:08] <Poul|Raider> Hey, any java programmers around? Wondering if its possible to do the following, I have values stored as Object (it can be strings and ints etc) And I also have another list telling what types they are like "String" "Int". So are there a way to program so Object is cast to string if "String" or int if the value is "Int". Some way to write console program that i can type in 500 int and it will store the value as an int and not a string ?
[21:08] <TomBridzas> i think it is but in opnline very mach people say thet need to manual instal vga drivers or something
[21:08] <TomBridzas> :D
[21:08] <TomBridzas> ok then
[21:08] <jrib> cwall: reboot in recovery mode and chmod it back
[21:08] <amcsi> I changed my ctrl-alt-delete key combination to gnome-system-moniter, and it worked for a while, but now it locks instead. please help.
[21:08] <sebsebseb> TomBridzas: quite a few people have also had issues with ATI drivers in 9.04
[21:08] <TomBridzas> now evrythink i understeand
[21:08] <erUSUL> Poul|Raider: /j #java
[21:08] <TomBridzas> very very thanks :D
[21:08] <pen> jrib: your book? huh?
[21:08] <cwall> jrib: my machine is remote... reboot into a runlevel w/ networkign?
[21:08] <pepa> hi, can anyone help with session saving in xfce-terminal? thanks
[21:08] <sebsebseb> TomBridzas: when you do 9.10 though, which isn't released yet, maybe you will also have a later ATI driver
[21:08] <Abdo> Poul|Raider,use parsing i think
[21:08] <sebsebseb> TomBridzas: Newer is not always better!
[21:09] <jrib> pen: to make sure it was only this time (joke)
[21:09] <sebsebseb> TomBridzas: and newer  graphic  card drivers can mess things up soemtimes,  as I basically already said
[21:09] <Guest8508> ctmjr: i got a output.... where can post my output
[21:09] <TomBridzas> ;) ok i keep it mind :D thanks subsebseb :D
[21:09] <jrib> cwall: umm, I don't think you can fix this without physical access.  Did you happen to setup a root password?
[21:09] <shawn_> Is there anyway to switch to Ubuntu 64 without losing all data?
[21:09] <sebsebseb> TomBridzas: no problem
[21:09] <cwall> jrib: i didn't!  sigh
[21:09] <guntbert> !pastebin | Guest8508
[21:10] <nmvictor> llutz: is the a problem in something like  <command> 2>/dev/null 1>$LOG_FILE ?
[21:10] <pen> jrib: do you use ubuntu?
[21:10] <ctmjr> !paste | Guest8508
[21:10] <jrib> pen: sometimes
[21:10] <sebsebseb> shawn_: seperate home partition?
[21:10] <pen> jrib: and gnome?
[21:10] <Xgates> I installed Ubuntu through the min. iso as a net install and I can't get wireless to work, it says for the Macbook Pro that I have wireless works out the box, but I only installed E17, I'm not running Gnome. So I'm wondering if maybe there are any tools I should install that automatically setup wireless, or if maybe I need to configure a config file since I didn't install Ubuntu off the regular cd?
[21:10] <crystufer> Yo. Someone wanna help me get my mic to start working as an input instead of routing out through my speakers?
[21:10] <jrib> pen: nope... (let's go to #ubuntu-offtopic)
[21:10] <llutz> nmvictor: "command >foo 2>&1"
[21:10] <Abdo> !grub
[21:10] <Guest8508> this is what i got
[21:11] <pen> jrib: i'm there already
[21:11] <Guest8508> http://paste.ubuntu.com/277379/
[21:11] <sebsebseb> !home | shawn_
[21:11] <jrib> cwall: no terminal with root access right?
[21:11] <pen> jrib: come come
[21:11] <nota9> was there another gnome bulk file renamer other than pyrenamer
[21:11] <nmvictor> llutz: where foo refers to file right?
[21:11] <llutz> nmvictor: yes
[21:11] <Mdyter> Hi again. with "lsusb" ubu finds 'Device 002: ID 0915:8104 GlobeSpan, Inc. DSL-200 Modem Bus'  . i know that in m$ he uses PPPoE ,and with cd are drivers for redhat
[21:12] <zadarmo3> does anybody know if I can replace a casper-rw file on my pendrive without losing data?
[21:12] <ctmjr> Guest8508: did you install the drivers for your graphics card?
[21:12] <cwall> jrib: no, no terminal access w/ root user... i never changed the default root passwd
[21:12] <cwall> jrib: thanks for help, btw
[21:12] <jrib> cwall: you shouldn't but it would be a way to avoid physical access
[21:12] <erUSUL> !adsl | Mdyter
[21:12] <Guest8508> anyone have any ideas???
[21:12] <cwall> jrib: how to crack root passwd?... w/o sudo
[21:12] <llutz> Mdyter: sudo modprobe cdc_ether; sudo modprobe usbnet
[21:13] <nmvictor> llutz: so that sends both the output and the errors to foo, right? in my case however, i wanted to send the output to /dev/null and the errors to $LOG_FILE.what should the command be like?
[21:13] <jrib> cwall: you can't, there isn't one.  Just get physical access to the server
[21:13] <llutz> nmvictor: "command >foo 2>logfile"
[21:13] <Guest8508> ctmjr: i think soo......
[21:13] <user__> is this keyserver.ubuntu.com no longer in use or something?
[21:13] <cwall> jrib: i feared... guess i'll have to get on a plane  :-(
[21:13] <user__> its down for at least a week
[21:13] <jrib> cwall: phone call and friend is probably cheaper :)
[21:13] <Nin12> gpg: requesting key 212CBCAD from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[21:13] <Nin12> gpg: keyserver timed out
[21:13] <Nin12> gpg: keyserver receive failed: keyserver error
[21:14] <llutz> Mdyter: then "ifconfig -a" should show a new device, use that for pppoeconf
[21:14] <cwall> jrib: think so...
 i'll try
[21:14] <Nin12> Is it possible to use a PPA without having the key, I need it now and the keyserver is broken for over a week
[21:14] <cwall> jrib: thanks!!!
[21:14] <sebsebseb> Nin12: yes  I think they can be installed without that
[21:14] <nmvictor> llutz: im not getting you on something, what does the command you just gave do?i cant see /dev/null anywhere
[21:15] <Nin12> sebsebseb, do you know how?
[21:15] <llutz> nmvictor: "command >/dev7null 2>logfile"
[21:15] <erUSUL> Nin12: yes; just answer yes when asked to confirm if you want to install something from "untrusted" source
[21:15] <llutz> nmvictor: "command >/dev/null 2>logfile" sry#
[21:15] <VCoolio> Nin12: have a link for the ppa? There are other ways of getting a key.
[21:15] <Nin12> https://launchpad.net/~transmissionbt-beta/+archive/ppa?field.series_filter=
[21:15] <Nin12> this is it
[21:15] <sebsebseb> Nin12: what erUSUL said I think
[21:15] <Nin12> it doesnt ask that
[21:15] <Nin12> it says this
[21:15] <erUSUL> !paste
[21:15] <crystufer> My mic won't work as an input, and my voice comes out of my speakers. Anyone?
[21:16] <philipp__> hello?
[21:16] <philipp__> anyone there?
[21:16] <sebsebseb> Nin12: a ppa for what by the way,  apparantly sometimes ppa's can mess things up,  and so you shoudn't just install loads of them
[21:16] <erUSUL> !hi | philipp__
[21:16] <zadarmo3> why doesn't Ubuntu 9.04 PL Remix include Broadcom STA driver? I can't compile it. I just finally made the ndiswrapper driver working :) But it took a lot of time :(
[21:16] <Nin12> http://pastebin.com/m5383b193
[21:16] <Nin12> thats the error i get, It doesnt ask if I want to do it anywat
[21:17] <erUSUL> Nin12: that is a warning you can ignore
[21:17] <philipp__> i have a HUGE problem. I have made a secound xserver on tty10 and now i get a bleck screen when i start
[21:17] <erUSUL> Nin12: now install something from that ppa
[21:17] <Nin12> erUSUL, it works
[21:17] <zadarmo3> philipp_ Recovery Mode?
[21:17] <Nin12> thank you
[21:17] <philipp__> anyone there to have time to help me with this problem
[21:17] <mostafa_> any body knows how to auto power on the computer ?
[21:17] <philipp__> zadarmo3 works but what shall i do there?
[21:18] <zadarmo3> restart X: Reconfigure X Server. there should be an option to do that
[21:18] <ctmjr> Guest8508: look in your main menu > system > administration > hardware drivers / for graphic card drivers if there is an option to activate then go ahead and do it
[21:19] <philipp__> when i start i get a login screen and a vew secounds later i becomes black... its also not possible to restart with strg + alt+ backspace
[21:19] <philipp__> zadarmo no... its no problem with the xorg.conf
[21:19] <erUSUL> !dontzap
[21:20] <Guest8508> ctmjr: i did and it does not show anything.... all it says is no proprietary software is installed
[21:20] <philipp__> i think its eighter the login manager or the gdm
[21:20] <philipp__> i have installed dontzap
[21:20] <Guest8508> ctmjr: i have a Intel Extreme Graphics 2 whats good drivers to install
[21:20] <Guest8508> ??
[21:20] <VCoolio> Nin12: you can copypaste the contents here to a text file and import that in synaptic > settings > repositories > authentication > import key file: http://ppa.launchpad.net/transmissionbt-beta/ppa/ubuntu/dists/jaunty/Release.gpg (assuming you're on jaunty)
[21:20] <erUSUL> !intel | Guest8508
[21:21] <philipp__> how can i stop him makeing a secount xserver on tty10?
[21:21] <Juzzy> second?
[21:22] <crystufer> How do I make my mic work?
[21:22] <zadarmo3> crystufer: what's your sound card and mic?
[21:22] <philipp__> yea the login manager makes a error when he tries to make the secound xserver
[21:22] <TheCheeze> ya know, i have never tested if my mic works...
[21:23] <crystufer> 82801JI (ICH10 Family) HD Audio Controller and generic mic.
[21:23] <zadarmo3> hmm try mixing some devices in the Volume Control
[21:24] <zadarmo3> that ones with "capture"
[21:24] <crystufer> zadarmo3, My mic sound is coming out of my speakers, so I know the mic is working. Just cant' route it into programs.
[21:24] <TheCheeze> i think i have the same one on my laptop. i just tested it with soundrecorder and it worked fine there
[21:24] <philipp__> please say me where i can turn of the secount xserver on tty10
[21:24] <hno> Do anyone know how to debug ubuntu packages? Is that possible without first rebuilding the package to include debug info?
[21:25] <philipp__> come on... help me
[21:25] <guntbert> !please | philipp__
[21:25] <trijntje> philipp__, just undu what you did to turn it on in the first place
[21:25] <ctmjr> Guest8508: look at the factoid erUSUL sent you and see if that helps you the reason you cannot play the videos is your cpu is doing all the work and the gpu is not getting utilized, you can also run these commands to confirm that xvinfo | grep version / glxinfo | grep render
[21:25] <philipp__> its a tough problem
[21:26] <x-kent> how can I figure out why I get "Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt" ?
[21:26] <ActionParsnip> x-kent: read: /var/log/kern.log
[21:26] <chazco> Hi... i have an eGalax touchscreen installed on my netbook. Ubuntu has no support for it but the eGalaxTouch driver can be used. However it generates two click events for each tap. Any ideas on fixing this?
[21:27] <mostafa_> I wanna write a shell script that opens a program as root but I want to do it automaticly
[21:27] <mostafa_> what should I do?
[21:28] <x-kent> ActionParsnip: It's not a ubuntu it's durring debian 5.03 installation proccess. It happens as soon as I try "detect hard drives". But the hard drive at that machine is a simple IDE
[21:28] <trijntje> mostafa_, you want to start a program as root without giving a root password?
[21:28] <philipp__> how can i turn on/off additonal xservers?
[21:28] <philipp__> without gui
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> x-kent: this is ubuntu support, not debian
[21:28] <philipp__> how can i turn on/off additonal xservers without gui?
[21:28] <x-kent> AcidPuddle, ok, thanks anyway
[21:28] <ActionParsnip> x-kent: debian support is in #debian
[21:28] <trijntje> !repeat | philipp__
[21:29] <mostafa_> trijntje: with getting the password but I want the computer to do it not manually done that
[21:30] <trijntje> mostafa_, I dont understand that. Do you want to type in the password or not?
[21:30] <nex__> Hello, I'm trying to make user quotas, but when i run edquota it says it cannot find mountpoint for device /dev/sda1 how can i resolve that?
[21:30] <mostafa_> no I don't want
[21:30] <mostafa_> trijntje: no I don't want
[21:30] <nightchill> hi i get the following error while starting mumble: Opening chosen ALSA Input failed: Broken pipe
[21:31] <nightchill> any help on that?
[21:31] <trijntje> mostafa_, there's not realy a safe way to do that i'm afraid
[21:31] <FIReun> I've got ubuntu 8.10 x64 installed on a compaq presario v2000 series laptop - and I know the laptop has bluetooth - yet hcitool dev shows no devices - I've installed bluez-utils and gnome-bluetooth - yet no joy --- anyone know what to look at to get this working?  Is the bluetooth chipset part of the broadcom wifi chip?
[21:31] <Kanda> hello ! any ALSA guru out there ?
[21:31] <lakotajames> my sound doesn't work.   it shows up as playing in pulse volume control.  but no sound.
[21:31] <nightchill> hi i get the following error while starting mumble: Opening chosen ALSA Input failed: Broken pipe, any help?
[21:32] <mostafa_> trijntje: don't worry about the safety :D just give me a solution
[21:32] <Fox321123> OK, I just loaded 64 bit 9.04. It keeps freezing randomly on me. Any help would be appreciated
[21:32] <mostafa_> trijntje: no matter safe or not
[21:32] <FIReun> Fox321123: install ubuntu 8.10x64
[21:32] <wng-> any idea what would make a system freeze on the line "early unpacking initramfs..."?
[21:32] <wng-> 3 other identical systems (same hardware, same bios settings, same live image) boot fine
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> Fox321123: did you md5 check the iso and verify the cd once burned
[21:33] <guntbert> wng-: bad RAM?
[21:33] <j1nn> hi
[21:33] <Halitech> wng-, boot the live cd and run the memtest
[21:33] <trijntje> mostafa_, I think it matters wether its safe or not ;) What are you trying to do?
[21:33] <wng-> Halitech: it's passed memtest
[21:33] <Kanda> snd-ali5451 and its friends are loaded ok, audio apps run fine but the sound I get from the headphones is very very very weak. I can't hear anything through the internal speakers (very old toshiba s1800-100 laptop)
[21:33] <Fox321123> No i didn't, I will try that. I am running memtest right now. Also why run 8.10 instead of 9.04?
[21:34] <trijntje> Is booting with acpi=off bad from a power-saving perspective?
[21:34] <lakotajames> Someone please help me make my sound work.
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> Fox321123: you are supposed to do it BEFORE
[21:34] <FIReun> Fox321123: I had nothing but problems with 9.04
[21:34] <guntbert> wng-: all 10 tests?
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> !sound | lakotajames
[21:34] <j1nn> how do I install a proprietary nvidia driver for gtx260? I looked at the howto page, but it doesn't say, how to do it from the command line
[21:34] <mostafa_> trijntje: I just want to open a program automatically as root
[21:34] <wng-> guntbert: it passed mt400 on 10 passes
[21:34] <wng-> or so
[21:34] <wng-> it ran memtest for over 48 hrs
[21:34] <Fox321123> I actually also have the same question as jlnn!!
[21:35] <Mdyter> didn't  worked. It even does not blink with ADSL LED
[21:35] <guntbert> wng-: then it *should* be ok :-) - soory no more ideas then
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> j1nn: sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180 may work. You could try the beta 190 driver: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-190-25-beta-drivers-in-ubuntu-jauntyintrepidhardy.html
[21:35] <philipp__> how can i turn on/off additonal xservers without gui?
[21:35] <j1nn> Fox321123, let's get some answers!
[21:35] <llutz> Mdyter: are you shure it uses pppoe?
[21:35] <Redundant_Userna> I have a problem with xsane. It won't detect my Brother mfc-290c all-in-one.
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Fox321123: you need to get a stable install first, you didnt test the ISO or disk so you may have installed using a bad disk
[21:35] <j1nn> ActionParsnip, ain't there a virtual package that would keep it up-to-date?
[21:36] <kermit> whats to keep any process with user access from poping up something looking like an update window and getting your root password?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> j1nn: yes thats the one
[21:36] <philipp__> ther has to be a data where something is written in like "start x server".... where is it?
[21:36] <trijntje> mostafa_, search the web for visudo, or read man visudo
[21:36] <Winball> Networkmanager does not work in Karmic ?
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | Winball
[21:36] <j1nn> ActionParsnip, okthx
[21:36] <Redundant_Userna> I have a problem with xsane. It won't detect my Brother mfc-290c all-in-one.
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[21:37] <dbugger> Hello!
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> Redundant_Userna: http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en_us/download_prn.html#MFC-290C
[21:37] <sebsebseb> !hello |  dbugger
[21:37] <dbugger> I was wondering if there was a way to make ubuntu look smaller. I dont have much of a resolution, and everything looks HUGE!
[21:38] <philipp__> okey.... does someone of you know ha i can cange the login manager in console?
[21:38] <sebsebseb> dbugger: Ok which graphics card?
[21:38] <dbugger> Intel
[21:38] <sebsebseb> dbugger: hmm
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: lspci | grep -i vga    will tell you
[21:38] <Redundant_Userna> change the theme?
[21:38] <sebsebseb> dbugger: so  there probably isn't a driver you can install for it
[21:38] <trijntje> Is booting with acpi=off bad from a power-saving perspective?
[21:38] <Redundant_Userna> make the panels smaller?
[21:38] <dbugger> Oh no! that's on my other laptop :D
[21:39] <dbugger> ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[21:39] <sebsebseb> dbugger: ok Intel not ATI hmm
[21:39] <sebsebseb> dbugger: See if there's a driver you can install for it system > administration > hardware drivers
[21:39] <Halitech> dbugger, using 9.04?
[21:39] <dbugger> Yeah, i have the max resolution allowed by my comp, but the default Ubuntu theme looks kinda big. I'd like to have a smaller theme
[21:39] <sebsebseb> dbugger: above I meant to put,   ok  ATI not Intel hmm
[21:40] <dbugger> mmmm, maybe Im not explaining myself well. it's not a "config problem"
[21:40] <dbugger> Everything looks ok
[21:40] <sanjid> anyone know if http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766381 will work on kernel version 2.6.28
[21:40] <dbugger> It's just that it's a little "unbearable" to work, as an IT enginner I am, with these settings
[21:40] <sebsebseb> dbugger: I thought you said things were to big?  and you hardly had any resolutions to choose from, well installing the driver for cards tends to mean more resoloutions on Ubuntu,  or so it seems
[21:41] <quantumlemur> hey you guys in here helping out:  I just wanted to say thanks! for taking your time to provide good answers to everybody's problems
[21:41] <dbugger> sebsebseb, I have the same resolutions list I get in windows, so Im guessing it's quite right
[21:41] <nmvictor> what option should one pass to read to make its display the charactes the user types with the keyboard?
[21:41] <Enzo`> i'm having trouble installing flash on a laptop with an amd sempron system.
[21:41] <dbugger> But windows has a "small theme"
[21:41] <dbugger> I'd like to get one of those
[21:42] <dbugger> I have 1280x720, I know a lil crappy, but I'd like to make the most out of it
[21:42] <Halitech> dbugger, check in System - admin - appearances and see if you can change the font and icon size
[21:42] <sebsebseb> quantumlemur: Yes that's what some of us do here, help others with Ubuntu
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: i know how to make firefox super thin
[21:43] <sebsebseb> quantumlemur: and unfortunatly no one that helps in here, can help with most problems, or so it seems
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: you could set the default icon size to teeny-tiny
[21:43] <dbugger> I dont see any way to reduce icon size
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[21:44] <dbugger> ActionParsnip, I abandoned firefox for Chromium :)
[21:44] <dbugger> now THAT's super slim :)
[21:44] <Redundant_Userna> But now flash is enabled by defualt
[21:44] <Halitech> Redundant_Userna, doesn't look like sane is supporting that machine yet http://www.sane-project.org/cgi-bin/driver.pl?manu=brother&model=290&bus=any&v=&p=
[21:45] <Redundant_Userna> Thanks anyway.
[21:45] <quantumlemur> sebsebseb: well, even if a lot of problems don't get fixed here, it at least gives people a place to start, and plenty of things do get fixed
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: i use opera
[21:45] <Redundant_Userna> crashes like crazy
[21:45] <harushimo> is it possible to run Internet explorer under wine
[21:45] <Redundant_Userna> google is your freind
[21:45] <Halitech> Redundant_Userna, there could be a brother driver
[21:45] <harushimo> apparently, I need it for a job application
[21:45] <ActionParsnip> google is one of my friends
[21:45] <dbugger> Still... can someone help me with the huge desktop settings?
[21:45] <Halitech> harushimo, ie4linux
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: let me see what i can find
[21:46] <nmvictor> Anyone know the options to be passed to read so that the user input is displayed as the user types?
[21:46] <Tastefull> ==[ HELP ]== - Does anyone know what the newest installer is for Ubuntu that is suiteble to install on a IA64 (Itanium) system?
[21:46] <harushimo> teag
[21:46] <harushimo> i mean yeah
[21:46] <Redundant_Userna> I have a driver, xsane just won't detect it I can print just fine
[21:46] <Gabe> just downloaded jaunty to external harddrive  how do i install to netbook from external hd?
[21:46] <Halitech> harushimo, http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page
[21:46] <harushimo> its not my browser of choice but I have no choice in this matter. they are probably running a asp script
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: you can right click the icons on desktop and adjust size as you like
[21:47] <trijntje> I want to reduce the "<kernel IPI> : rescheduling interrupts" wakeups on my laptop. How can i do this?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Gabe: I use this: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/
[21:47] <dbugger> ActionParsnip, resizing every single icon doesnt seem very approchabe
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: true
[21:47] <dbugger> besides I want to shrink the whole OS appearance
[21:48] <dbugger> not just the icons in the desktop
[21:48] <Redundant_Userna> I try a new theme in emerald
[21:48] <dbugger> I see some desktops with 10.000 icons and i get so jealous. I know they have barbaric resolutions, but still feels like more could be done with the one I have
[21:48] <Redundant_Userna> *I'd
[21:49] <Redundant_Userna> Or go to Preferences -> Appereance
[21:50] <dbugger> I alredy checked the configuration of gnome... not many good options there
[21:50] <dbugger> gnome lacks quite a lot in configuring
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: you can check in system -> prefs -> appearence
[21:50] <Halitech> dbugger, anyone that has 10,000 icons on their desktop probably spends more time looking for things then actually working on the computer
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: if you click interface tab you can make stuff be icons or text only rather than both
[21:51] <chazco> Hi... the driver guide for my touchscreen says that double taps can be prevented by adding a section to xorg specfiying what is the "real" mouse. This doesnt seem to work. Any ideas?
[21:51] <dbugger> Halitech, but it's quite nice for code developing :)
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[21:51] <tehbaut> does ubuntu need to defrag?
[21:51] <Redundant_Userna> no, I don't think so.
[21:51] <Halitech> dbugger, then use launchers and drawers to organize things
[21:51] <dbugger> ActionParsnip, again, what im looking is to make the whole OS appearance smaller. Not just some items
[21:52] <Redundant_Userna> Change the text size
[21:52] <Halitech> tehbaut, it will in a few dozen years but not on any kind of basis like windows does
[21:52] <dbugger> I still want it to feel consistent and "as one"
[21:52] <Nin12> use compiz to zoom uit
[21:52] <Nin12> out
[21:52] <Redundant_Userna> Use a different theme
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> dbugger: openbox has a nice thin window decorator
[21:52] <dracnoc> tehbaut: no, not really. Ubuntu uses a file system that is far more resilient to defragmentation than that used by Windows (NTFS)
[21:52] <tehbaut> Halitech: didn't think so... ok
[21:52] <dbugger> I'd wish not to have to change my windows manager
[21:52] <meoblast001> hi
[21:53] <meoblast001> the Vera.ttf that comes with Ubuntu is the Bitstream Vera, right?
[21:53] <dbugger> Enlightment was pretty nice, though...
[21:53] <tehbaut> how about a window utility like win7, where it can dock to windows to half-screen? anyone seen any thing like that?
[21:53] <Fox> maybe I missed something. How do I get the newest drivers for my new evga gtx260, using 64 9.04?
[21:54] <Za> I all i've a little problem with ubuntu jaunty and lkm trojan this is the log: http://nopaste.com/p/aFT9FCWz
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> Fox: nvidia-glx-190 is newest: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-190-25-beta-drivers-in-ubuntu-jauntyintrepidhardy.html
[21:54] <Redundant_Userna> Karamic comes out next month, correct?
[21:54] <j1nn> Mdyter, are you sure you want to talk to me? have no idea what are you talking about
[21:54] <sebsebseb> Redundant_Userna: 29th October
[21:54] <dracnoc> tehbaut: can you give us a URL with a screenshot of that feature?
[21:54] <ActionParsnip> fox: its beta but will also allow you to install the 185 f its no good
[21:54] <chalcedony> ((((( ActionParsnip ))))))
[21:55] <jakerue> OK how to I use gparted to combine two partitions that are not next to each other?  Is this even possible?
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> hi chalcedony
[21:55] <chalcedony> :)
[21:55] <Fox> Actionparsnip, Thank you :)
[21:55] <rxd> karmic is good...u can mount your squashfs file on the fly
[21:56] <Casper1> Im using chm2pdf and having problems help please?
[21:56] <nex__> My file system has turned read-only on me, how can i fix that? I cant change back my fstab
[21:56] <rxd> like layering/merging to your root (/)
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[21:57] <sebsebseb> Za: lkm?  Linux kernl machine or something?
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> nex__: boot to livecd or root recovery console and run an fsck on the partition and/or edit the fstab on your partition
[21:57] <Za> sebsebseb, i don't know look the log of chkrootkit
[21:58] <sebsebseb> Za: yes I did
[21:58] <spO> ubuntu doesn't have a chkdsk program for ntfs usb drives, right?  is there a bootdisk or something i can use besides a whole windows os to check a ntfs usb drive?
[21:58] <sebsebseb> Za: and why arey ou doing a scan anyway?
[21:58] <harushimo> thank I got the application working
[21:58] <harushimo> bye
[21:58] <x-kent> I am planning to build a machine that will serve as (media center/torrent/nat gateway) what ubuntu should I use server or desktop ?
[21:58] <Casper1> can some1 help me wtih me chm2pdf
[21:58] <sebsebseb> Za: also you probably don't have it, unless you installed it yourself,  or you got cracked
[21:58] <Za> i can't understand why when i change ip dos attack don't stop
[21:59] <Halitech> x-kent, how familiar are you with the command line?
[21:59] <purpzey> Can someone tell me how to setup my printer so that my laptop recognizes it as a network printer using a GUI?
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> x-kent: if you can configure it in server it will be more responsive, transmission and rtorrent can all run as daemons
[21:59] <Halitech> Za, do you have a router?
[21:59] <Za> no
[21:59] <Za> only a modem
[21:59] <x-kent> Halitech, I am ok with command line, but I will need X installed so it will display movies fotos to a TV that will be connected by VGA cable
[21:59] <bitplane> my clock and task bar have crashed, how do I restart them? I'm using GNOME
[22:00] <sebsebseb> Za: Ok whatever OS your running if it's Internet connected you should have a firewall
[22:00] <sebsebseb> !firewall |  Za
[22:00] <dracnoc> x-kent: Mythbuntu will probably be your best bet.
[22:00] <nimhling> hiya, does anyone know how to get in contact with the package maintainer for the volume icon in the system tray? karmic seems to have change scrollwheel sensitivity to adjust volume by 1% instead of the 5% of the previous release.
[22:00] <mgv1> hi, i'm trying to do "airmon-ng stop ath0" but it says "Run it as root". why?
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> x-kent: sounds like you want desktop then
[22:00] <Za> sebsebseb, i'm using firestarter
[22:00] <SeekerNL> Hello what is the package what will take over make install and install you compiled software as a deb?
[22:00] <bitplane> mgv1: sudo airmon-ng stop ath0
[22:00] <Halitech> x-kent, then unless its getting heavy usage, might as well go desktop or myth
[22:00] <Redundant_Userna> checkinstall?
[22:01] <sebsebseb> Za: what you mean when you change IP something happens?
[22:01] <SeekerNL> yes thanks :)
[22:01] <x-kent> dracnoc, gonna read about that distro, I know nothing about it
[22:01] <dajhorn> SeekerNL:  stow?
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> purpzey: is the printer a network printer or is it attatched to another system or do you want to share the printer?
[22:01] <Casper1> can some1 help me with converting a chm to a pdf
[22:01] <SeekerNL> dajhorn no checkinstall I meant
[22:01] <purpzey> ActionParsnip: The printer is attached to my desktop and I want to be able to print from my laptop (on the same network).
[22:01] <x-kent> Halitech, I just gave up installing debian, so now will try my luck with ubuntu
[22:01] <Za> a lot of icmp packet on my pubblic interface
[22:01] <Za> always
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> purpzey: what OS is the desktop running?
[22:02] <sebsebseb> Za: By the sounds of it you might actsaully have something bad on there,   and so the only way to make sure that is truely removed is to re install the OS.
[22:02] <purpzey> ActionParsnip: Both are Ubuntu.
[22:02] <dracnoc> x-kent: Mythbuntu has a multimedia front similar to many digital TV systems (such as TIVO or Sky), but with many optional extras, plus it's a Ubuntu box underneath the hood, so you can add as many tools as you need.
[22:02] <Za> when i try to nmap source segmentation fault
[22:02] <newill> hello
[22:02] <Tastefull> ==[ HELP ]== - Does anyone know what the newest installer is for Ubuntu that is suiteble to install on a IA64 (Itanium) system?
[22:02] <Blastur> hey.. can anyone give suggestions on a text-editor which runs without x, can highlight code, shows a line margin at 80 chars width, can easily reconfigure keys, and is not emacs or vim?
[22:02] <rxd> anyone running ubuntu 910 on a usb stick?
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> purpzey: you can install samba and share it that way
[22:02] <Za> sebsebseb, i hope so
[22:03] <Casper1> can some1 help me with converting a chm to a pdf
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> purpzey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=163882
[22:03] <purpzey> ActionParsnip: I thought that there was some simple GUI way to do it? from System, Admin, Printing...I thought I read a Howto a while ago.
[22:03] <newill> can some of you help me understand how to get the ubuntu advanced desktop mode?...thanks
[22:03] <JohnN> where are the settings samba? running on xubuntu
[22:03] <JohnN> +for
[22:03] <nimhling> does anyone know if i could bind super+scrollwheel to change master volume?
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> purpzey: you can also connect direct to the cups system of the desktop
[22:03] <aroth> Casper1: try kchmviewer and print as pdf
[22:03] <sebsebseb> Za: Remember none of these are 100% immune from malware,  Windows, Linux distros, or Mac OS X,  as well as other OS's  such as BSD.    This is why you should buy a hardware firewall or at least a router,  since those are meant to offer better protection than  software firewalls.
[22:03] <x-kent> dracnoc, yea, googled it and already downloading an image
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> purpzey: if you right click the printer you will be able to share it there, i believe that will use samba
[22:03] <Casper1> aroth: is that a program or a command?
[22:04] <Za> thanks sebsebseb
[22:04] <purpzey> ActionParsnip: Ok, thanks, I will check those out.
[22:04] <aroth> can someone confirm that the keyserver.ubuntu.com is quite slow at the moment?
[22:04] <newill> can some of you help me understand how to get the ubuntu advanced desktop mode?...thanks
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> purpzey: the page I gave gives a more graceful pure linux way rather than using samba, if you DO use samba then windows systems will be able to use the printer too
[22:04] <Za> tomorrow i'm going to reinstall my ubuntu
[22:04] <aroth> Casper1: kchmviewer is a program. It's a viewer for CHM files for KDE
[22:04] <Casper1> aroth: ok ill give it a shot
[22:04] <dracnoc> x-kent: XMBC is another media frontend you might want to look at. There's a build espically for Ubuntu boxes. Very nice GUI.
[22:04] <seven1m> rb
[22:04] <sebsebseb> Za: If you do in fact have that type of malware on there,   I guess someone got into your computer and put it there, or you did it yourself? ,but why would you?
[22:05] <dracnoc> x-kent: sorry, XBMC
[22:05] <Halitech> Tastefull, I don't see any version that is specifically for IA64
[22:05] <newill> hello,,,, can some of you help me understand how to get the ubuntu advanced desktop mode?...thanks
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> !info xchm | aroth
[22:05] <Za> sebsebseb, i use only synaptic with official repository
[22:05] <shawn_> Alright so this is what I have in my computer a Core2 duo , a P965 motherboard and 6GB of DDR2 RAM... I just switched to the 64 bit version of Ubuntu why is my RAM not showing up in the System Monitor tool thing on my toolbar
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> newill: whats advanced desktop mode?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> shawn_: try the command: free
[22:06] <sebsebseb> Za: you should learn about Linux firewalls :)  iptables,  firestarter,  gufw  etc,   and buy a hardware firewall or at least a router that has one
[22:06] <dracnoc> I think newill is trying to ask about sudo
[22:06] <DasEi> shawn_: look for it in hwinfo or install conky
[22:06] <newill> I have now the easy mode and I would like to pass to full desktop mode
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> newill: oh you are on an eeepc arent you
[22:07] <Za> thanks sebsebseb good night
[22:07] <newill> yep :D
[22:07] <thepoet> anybody know how to bypass school security so i can get on an efnet server?
[22:07]  * dracnoc just seen the light about newill's problem
[22:07] <lullis> Hello, everyone. I need some help figuring out how to make my wireless card (linksys wrt54gs, cdrom says v1.4) work on ubuntu jaunty.
[22:07] <shawn_> DasEi Whats conky
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> newill: its not running ubuntu, its running a modified xandros
[22:07] <Nin12> thepoet, use tor.
[22:07] <sebsebseb> Za: How did you know about that command though?  the one in your pastebin
[22:07] <DasEi> thepoet: browser or irc ?
[22:07] <Nin12> make sure you don't ident or if you have to use https, since anyone can sniff tor
[22:07] <lullis> Is there any driver for it somewhere, or do I still need to go the ndiswrapper route?
[22:08] <Redundant_Userna> http://conky.sourceforge.net/screenshots.html
[22:08] <thepoet> irc
[22:08] <gonzzor> If I want to use binary driver from nvidia, is it nvidia-glx-180 I should install?
[22:08] <lullis> I did quite a lot of searching, but not of the solution on the forums worked for me.
[22:08] <newill> I installed ubuntu 8.04
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> newill: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/howto:getkde#enable_advanced_desktop_mode_-_the_easy_way
[22:08] <shawn_> Where do I get conky?
[22:08] <thepoet> im using xchat to try and connect to the efnet server
[22:08] <sebsebseb> Za: If a compuer has been infected by malware or is suspected to of been,   it's also a good idea to disconnect it from The Internet.
[22:08] <DasEi> thepoet: install tor,  then configure your irc client to use that as socks5 proxy
[22:08] <Halitech> shawn_, sudo apt-get install conky
[22:08] <Za> sebsebseb, i use linux since slackware 2.0
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> newill: the netbook remix?
[22:09] <DasEi> shawn_: sudo apt-get ionstall conky
[22:09] <DasEi> install*
[22:09] <newill> yes
[22:09] <thepoet> ok cool
[22:09]  * Slade is back
[22:09] <JohnN> aahhhh... system>shared folders to sort samba
[22:09] <Tastefull> Halitech: there is a IA64 installere image for Hardy i think
[22:09] <shawn_> DasEi I did that command now where will it show up its not in my applications
[22:10] <Za> bye
[22:10] <DasEi> shawn_: conky ( as normal user)
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> newill: if you have netbook remix, you can run: sudo apt-get install desktop-switcher
[22:10] <SeekerNL> liblzo-dev
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> newill: the desktop switcher will be in the system menu
[22:10] <newill> ok ... thanks
[22:11] <Casper1> aroth: it works fine except it will only print one page
[22:11] <shawn_> DasEi It says I hve 3.16 GB RAM...
[22:11] <razor_X> ActionParsnip thanks for the help man got my problem solved now :D
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> newill: if you can provide info rather tan me guessing and guessing right it helps
[22:11] <Casper1> aroth: i selected all pages as well
[22:11] <Halitech> Tastefull, nothing that I can see http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/ubuntu-releases/8.04/
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: what was the secret then?
[22:11] <digilord_> Is there any reason why if I setup a command in sudoers with the NOPASSWD option that I would still be asked for a password?
[22:11] <DasEi> shawn_: 64 bit I got , did you check the specs of that mobo ?
[22:11] <razor_X> ActionParsnip it was in the settings for monitor
[22:11] <newill> it's working :)
[22:11] <nmvictor> why does update manager launch itself automatically after every package install, this wasnt the case in intrepid
[22:12] <razor_X> ActionParsnip the settings you pastebinned work like a charm
[22:12] <shawn_> DasEi... A guy in hardware named Beelsebob checked the motherboard for me and he says both my CPU and motherbaord support 64 bit
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: yeah some monitors dont talk to the system to tell it what it can and cant do, so yu have to tell the system yourself
[22:12] <Abdo> ActionParsnip, can i pm u ?
[22:12] <newill> it say: impossibile to find desktop-switcher
[22:12] <razor_X> ActionParsnip i appreciate your help and patience on the matter
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: i have a CTX 17" thing the same, I have an xorg.conf file that has worked for YEARS that I keep on backup and I just restore it if i do a clean install
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> Abdo: sure
[22:12] <DasEi> shawn_: but how much ram ? 4 banks on 965 ?
[22:13] <RaStAa> ....|[0]|....
[22:13] <RaStAa> ....|[.0.]|....
[22:13] <FloodBot2> RaStAa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: np man, glad yuo got the gold. back the file up
[22:13] <RaStAa> ....|[..00....0]|....
[22:13] <RaStAa> ....|[..00....000..]|....
[22:13] <shawn_> DasEi I have 4 slots filled... 2 1GB DDR2s and 2 2GB DDR2s
[22:13] <razor_X> ActionParsnip i already did lol
[22:14] <DasEi> shawn_: and you paired them I assume
[22:14] <Halitech> shawn_, possible bad stick of ram?
[22:14] <nanotube> shawn_: you have too many, give me some. :)
[22:14] <sheepsy1> Hey does anyone know how to affect window opening order in metacity? I usually open several terminal windows at once. KDE uses smart placement and so does Gnome when effects/compiz is enabled. Let's say you opened first in top left corner, the next will open in top right, the next in bottom right. But regularly in gnome, windows just open on top of the last one and just a bit lower to show the title bar. Any idea how this can be changed? I
[22:14] <liveD> hi guys
[22:14] <razor_X> anyone here familiar with shoutcast and what can i use as a DJing program to connect to shoutcast in linux
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> razor_X: no worries now, install driver and restore file then reboot, quick and easy
[22:14] <newill> I made  on terminal: sudo apt-get install desktop-switcher..... and it said : impossible to find desktop-switcher
[22:14] <shawn_> DasEi: Well what it says is Memory Channel A: Slot 0 1024 MB, Slot 1 2048 MB...... And the same for Memory CHannel B
[22:15] <aroth> Casper1: i don't have any CHM file at hand, but u should be able to print all pages as well. Or u might try xchm as suggested by others
[22:15] <liveD> i'm lookin for to make my personal distro but i don't know WTF to use ubuntu costom. kit and i've got a bug on my head
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> liveD: you can remaster the ubuntu iso
[22:15] <dracnoc> razor_X: try djplay
[22:15] <DasEi> shawn_: so wrong paired, put the 1 and the 2 next to each other
[22:15] <razor_X> dracnoc thank you is it free?
[22:15] <dracnoc> razor_X: yes
[22:16] <liveD> ActionParsnip, and how can i do it
[22:16] <dracnoc> razor_X: it runs through icecast
[22:16] <shawn_> DasEi: OHHH the two same ones should be right next to eachother and not in the same colours?
[22:16] <razor_X> dracnoc do you have a link handy and i dont know how to use icecast
[22:16] <lullis> If it helps, lspci outputs "02:01.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)"
[22:16] <alokito> how to chainload grub 2 in grub legacy?
[22:16] <DasEi> shawn_: check in bios if unsure
[22:17] <shawn_> DasEi: Should I have the two same ones in the same memory channel or in the same slot number thing
[22:17] <nimhling> anyone know where ubuntu stores its key bindings for sound / volume control?
[22:17] <Fox> OK the ubuntu 9.04 64 bit cd passed the burn test. it installs just fine. but ubuntu randomly freezes when I am using it. i7 920 6gigs kingston 1600 ram.
[22:17] <dracnoc> razor_X: I'm a bit rusty, but this worked for me: http://www.gnuware.com/icecast/unofficial/
[22:17] <SeekerNL> does ubuntu compile xine with vpdau?
[22:17] <jeremybub> Is there any script to maximize all volume settings?
[22:17] <razor_X> is there a java deb that i can grab to bring my stystem up to the best java?
[22:18] <jeremybub> razor_X:Just run sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre
[22:18] <razor_X> jeremybub thank you will do
[22:19] <razor_X> jeremybub it says i am running the latest java yet frostwire still will not work for me
[22:19] <jeremybub> razor_X: how does it not work?
[22:20] <Fox> OK the ubuntu 9.04 64 bit cd passed the burn test. it installs just fine. but ubuntu randomly freezes when I am using it. i7 920 6gigs kingston 1600 ram. the i7 is supported isn't it?
[22:20] <razor_X> Something went wrong with FrostWire.
[22:20] <razor_X> Maybe you're using the wrong version of Java?
[22:20] <razor_X> \
[22:21] <Halitech> razor_X, did you install from the repo or from a download from their site?
[22:21] <jeremybub> Well, you are using the most up to date sun version.  Perhaps something else wen't wrong.
[22:21] <dracnoc> wow, is Frostwire still running? Haven't used that in years
[22:21] <jeremybub> *went
[22:21] <razor_X> halitech from the frostwire site
[22:21] <Halitech> razor_X, maybe it needs a newer version of java then is in the repo
[22:21] <DasEi> shawn_: I'm overasked there, for usual 0+1 is one pair, the info about colour makes me think, too,  get a manual of your board and look up, also you can use live cd to check the ram for defects, before check if bios sees them
[22:22] <razor_X> halitech i am running the latest java
[22:22] <Halitech> razor_X, from the repo, correct?
[22:23] <David-T> uh
[22:23] <dracnoc> ok, who's trying to send me a keylogger from 76.73.16.26?
[22:23] <razor_X> halitech yeah
[22:23] <jeremybub> I would bet the java version is not the problem.
[22:23] <nmvictor> Anyone know how i would edit the commands in /usr/local/nagios/etc/objects/commands.cfg to use /usr/bin/mailx rather than the default /usr/bin/mail as defined in the file.
[22:23] <joe75> A file named "startkeylogger" is being sent to you from FreenodeUser. This file is Zero bytes in size.
[22:23] <jeremybub> Yeah, someone tried to send me a keylogger too.
[22:23] <David-T> they sent the message to the channel, not individual people
[22:23] <Ian_> same joe75
[22:23] <sheepsy1> joe75: same
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> jeremybub: snap
[22:23] <Ian_> morons :p
[22:23] <Nin12> Some routers using idiotic statefull packet injection will disconnect the user when receiving that command
[22:24] <^mNotIntelligent> hi all !
[22:24] <dracnoc> wtf?
[22:24] <nex__> Isn't there anything I can do to restore fstab on a read-only filesystem?
[22:24] <David-T> actually, they crash
[22:24] <coldReactive42> Having problems with xsplash in jaunty: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1274569
[22:24] <Deathvalley122> that's gettin annoying with those spammers sending out keyloggers
[22:24] <coldReactive42> please reply to the thread, as I will be leaving from this room
[22:24] <boscop> I got the file, too
[22:24] <sheepsy1> But why do they send them? You still have to run it...
[22:24] <dracnoc> morons...
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> nex__: boot to livecd and change the file and/or fsck the partition
[22:24] <boscop> do they even run on linux?
[22:24] <Nin12> sheepsy1, if you have one of the affected routers its firewall will drop your connection when it sees that packet.
[22:24] <Nin12> so everyone leaves the channel
[22:25]  * ^mNotIntelligent possibly yes
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> boscop: is it a win32 binary?
[22:25] <jeremybub> ActionParsnip: Snap?
[22:25] <nimhling> does anyone know where gnome / ubuntu physically stores the keybindings for volume up / down (ie, not the keyboard preferences gui, the actual configuration file / registry section)?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> jeremybub: i got offered the same file. Did you ever play snap with cards?
[22:26] <boscop> ActionParsnip: I don't know since he went offline before I could receive it
[22:26] <mgv2> hi, does anyone can help me with what to do when i get "Run it as root" in the terminal?
[22:26] <Hansard> hi everyone, I was using an old Belkin PCI 802.11g and was getting lots of d/c and high latency in windows (it was a bit better in Ubuntu but 60% signal strength at 1MB/s). I just installed a TL-WN951N and I have 130mbps "Very Good" in Windows. I just booted into ubuntu and it autodetected a working driver and connected at 1mb/s at 48% signal.
[22:26] <jeremybub> ActionParsnip: No, I don't know that game.
[22:26] <Nin12> it was a 0bytes file
[22:26] <Nin12> so i suppose it wont do shit :d
[22:26] <jeremybub> Buffer underflow!
[22:26] <ZoeyMarie> Why can't I change the sample rate in JACK to 44100? It perpetually stays at 16000, and that's not okay. :p
[22:26] <boscop> mgv2: sudo or what do you mean?
[22:26] <Nin12> yeah very leet exploit.
[22:26] <sytem-7> Hello. how can I stop Ubuntu from sending me messages through the command line?
[22:26] <Nin12> It owns Intel based software whatever it is
[22:26] <Nin12> cpu exploit
[22:27] <bitplane> someone sent me that StartKeyLogger too
[22:27] <dracnoc> mgv1: add "sudo" (without the quotes) to the start of the command, i.e., - sudo apt-get install sauerbraten
[22:27]  * David-T sighs
[22:27] <bitplane> so I'm ping -f his IP address
[22:27] <sytem-7> such as "Reloading /etc/samba/smb.conf"
[22:27] <Nin12> bitplane ping -f doesnt make that much traffic
[22:27] <mgv2> boscop, do i need to type sudo before "airmon-ng stop ath0"?
[22:27] <Nin12> use hping2 in its fast flood mode, send syn packets to an open port
[22:27] <boscop> mgv2: yes
[22:27] <bitplane> if everyone does it it will
[22:27] <MikeH> Anyone here use a sata pci card, that they can confirm works under linux? (non-raid)
[22:27] <Nin12> but dos is illegal
[22:27] <Fox> ActionParsnip: is the i7 architecture supported under Ubuntu 64?
[22:28] <ZoeyMarie> Can anyone tell me why I  can't change the sample rate in JACK to 44100? It perpetually stays at 16000, and that's not okay. :p
[22:28] <Ian_> yes
[22:28] <Nin12> its pointless anyway, he can just change his ip if it would do something
[22:28] <bitplane> he can tell my mum then
[22:28] <Ian_> what is that +J mode?
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> Fox: should be. not 100% sure
[22:28] <mgv2> boscop, i will try
[22:28] <sytem-7> Ubuntu keeps popping up this message "Reloading /etc/samba/smb.conf smb only"
[22:28] <cwillu> sytem-7, how do you mean?  during boot?
[22:28] <sytem-7> No, all the time
[22:28] <Ian_> I have jaunty running on 4 i7 machines
[22:29] <sytem-7> This is in the command line BTW, im not running X
[22:29] <mgv2> boscop, thank you
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> sytem-7: have you installed samba?
[22:29] <Fox> Does anyone else know if the i7 is supported in ubuntu 64?
[22:29] <Nin12> MikeH, I have a sata card
[22:29] <ZoeyMarie> Can anyone tell me why I  can't change the sample rate in JACK to 44100? It perpetually stays at 16000, and that's not okay. :p
[22:29] <Nin12> it works 100%
[22:29] <Nin12> SiliconImage based one
[22:29] <sytem-7> IDK, i didn't specifically install it, unless it came w/ Ubuntu
[22:29] <mgv2> does anyone can tell what does this command really do if isnt stopping the wireless connection? " airmon-ng stop ath0   "
[22:30] <Nin12> 0,99$ from dealextreme
[22:30] <Nin12> it stops the monitor interface connected to ath0
[22:30] <iceroot> !who | Nin12
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> sytem-7: no it doesnt
[22:30] <sytem-7> Some one pointed me at /etc/syslog.conf, but commenting out some lines about sending messages to the command line didn't help
[22:30] <_iTroll> hey guys, X wont start for me on latest karmic on a lenovo s10e (intel mobile 915), anyone know how to diagnose?
[22:31] <iceroot> _iTroll: #ubuntu+1 fpr karmic-support
[22:31] <Mdyter> who can help me to solve internet problem in ubu 9.04 ? i can't conect to internet thru ADSL USB modem.It even does not blink with ADSL LED. "Lsusb" shows 'Device 002: ID 0915:8104 GlobeSpan, Inc. DSL-200 Modem' . in m$ it uses PPP .
[22:31] <sytem-7> its really screwing with my screen, like right now im running ircII and the message pops up the in middle of the screen and screws up the text display
[22:31] <ZoeyMarie> Can anyone tell me why I  can't change the sample rate in JACK to 44100? It perpetually stays at 16000, and that's not okay. :p
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> !karmic | _iTroll
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> sytem-7: try: sudo apt-get install samba
[22:32] <_iTroll> iceroot: tried there a couple of times today and no-one had any luck, i don't think it is a karmic specific issue as other users are having no prolem
[22:32] <sytem-7> samba is installed :/
[22:32] <ActionParsnip> sytem-7: weird
[22:33] <sytem-7> i didn't do it... should i just remove it? cant think of any use for it atm
[22:33] <JohnCDI> is there anyway to use transmission through terminal or maybe an alternative that would let me use terminal to download torrents
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> sytem-7: sure
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> JohnCDI: sure yuo can start it as a daemon and manage it via web interface
[22:33] <mgv2> how can i remove tor?
[22:33] <Arabus> JohnCDI: man transmission
[22:34] <meanieface> JohnCDI: why not just use rtorrent?
[22:34] <JohnCDI> im using this through ssh.
[22:34] <yannick__> hi all
[22:34] <yannick__> i have a problem
[22:34] <Ian_> JohnCDI:
[22:34] <Ian_> rtorrent
[22:34] <Halitech> !ask | yannick__
[22:34] <Dawgmatix> i need some help getting Xephy to work on jaunty
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> JohnCDI: it has a web interface only, other cliebts have ssh interfaces
[22:35] <Hansard> Hello, I have a TP-LINK TL-WN951N (802.11n) that connects at 130mbps 'Very good' in Windows XP, but it connects at 1mbps and 48% in Ubuntu Jaunty. How can I improve the signal strength and speed?
[22:35] <server_side> how do i check running processes then search for the process specifically is it, ps grep | mysql?
[22:35] <Dawgmatix> Xephyr -ac -screen 1600x900 :2 gives me - unrecognised device identifier!
[22:35] <Dawgmatix> (EE) config/hal: NewInputDeviceRequest failed (2)
[22:36] <Arabus> server_side: try ps ax | grep mysql if searching for mysql
[22:36] <Arabus> server_side: also try "man ps"
[22:36] <server_side> Arabus, thankyou
[22:37] <yannick__> why is the probleme please 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection
[22:37] <senkyrik> caw
[22:37] <senkyrik> hi all
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> Hansard: maybe you need some firmware
[22:38] <yannick__> who ?
[22:38] <Hansard> ActionParsnip: there isn't any firmware updates listed on their website http://www.tp-link.com/support/download.asp?a=1&m=TL-WN951N
[22:38] <yannick__> me?
[22:38] <mgv2> can anyone help me with airocrack problems?
[22:38] <nmvictor> Any command that will list the dependency of the package passed to it as an argument?
[22:38] <Hansard> just drivers and utilities
[22:38] <iceroot> !anyone | mgv2
[22:39] <Halitech> yannick__, http://www.unixguide.net/linux/faq/09.25.shtml
[22:39] <Joaz> hello. I use 9.04 , 64 bit version. I've a problem with firefox plugins. After a while they stop working (say: flash player, acrobat reader (I guess the 32 bit stuff)) and I need to restart firefox to get it running again.
[22:39] <senkyrik> Hi all
[22:39] <texas2stepper> installing on an ASUS M2N32-SLI with AMD PHENOM quad core. System locks on boot with 5.1262391 Not responding... 17.399242 ata3.00 revalidation failed (errno=-5)...23.2803381 ata3.00 revalidation failed (errno=-5)...30.958896 ata4.00 revalidation failed (errno=-5)... and finally 36.840609 ata3.00 revalidation failed (errno=-5)...  any help?
[22:39] <Arabus> nmvictor: try aptitude show <packagename>
[22:39] <senkyrik> what?
[22:40] <shawn_> DasEi Ive tried putting my RAM in every way possible and it still only shows 3.2 GB.... Why would this be?
[22:40] <iceroot> shawn_: because you are using a 32bit system
[22:41] <nimrod_> hello!
[22:41] <iceroot> shawn_: 32bit can only adress 4gb (ram + bus)
[22:41] <Arabus> shawn_: sounds like you are using a 32bit system
[22:41] <shawn_> iceroot No I just installed 64 bit Ubuntu and that was the whole reason
[22:41] <linuxgeek22> hello. i have a hp dv2000 laptop webcam issue.
[22:41] <nmvictor> Arabus: needed something like that, thanks
[22:41] <nimrod_> How do i burn a 950mb-cd-iso to a dvd?
[22:41] <iceroot> shawn_: bios is detecting 4gb+?
[22:41] <linuxgeek22> it wont work with gos(based on ubuntu 8.0.4 lts
[22:42] <shawn_> iceroot My bios is detecting 6 GB Ubuintu is detecting 3.2
[22:42] <mgv2> after this command im not getting the right line "wifi0     no wireless extensions" while in the tutorial it should be and i dont know how to continue
[22:42] <iceroot> shawn_: uname -r
[22:42] <Halitech> yannick__, ask in the channel
[22:43] <iceroot> shawn_: if i am correct there should be amd64 in the string
[22:43] <yannick__> no i m send messange private you now ?
[22:43] <linuxgeek22> my webcam wont work with ubuntu .i have a hp dv2312us laptop. with 1.3mp webcam. i use gos (ubuntu 8.0.4 lts-based)
[22:43] <shawn_> iceroot There isnt
[22:43] <crystufer> !realtekaudio
[22:43] <shawn_> iceroot it says 2.6.28-generic
[22:43] <iceroot> shawn_: so it is 32bit version you have installed (imo) someone can confirm?
[22:44] <yannick__> no i m send messange private you now ? Halitech
[22:44] <linuxgeek22> i have 32.bit ubuntu
[22:44] <shawn_> Iceroot: But I downloaded the AMD64 version image from the Ubuntu site and then burned it to a disk... DId I need to do something special?
[22:44] <Halitech> shawn_, if it doesn't say anything about amd64 you have the 32bit version installed which will only see about 3.2gig
[22:44] <linuxgeek22> i have amd.64 if that helps
[22:44] <Halitech> yannick__, no, ask in the channel
[22:44] <iceroot> shawn_: you have downloaeded/burned the wrong one
[22:44] <Chousuke> hmhm
[22:44] <Joaz> the server 32 bit kernel has highmem support
[22:44] <shawn_> iceroot I really dont think I did
[22:45] <nimrod_> i have 64bit ubuntu, because 32 bit ubuntu couldn't recognize over 2,5gb Ram
[22:45] <ZanQdo> hey anyone know of a repo with py 3.1?
[22:45] <iceroot> shawn_: but uname -r doenst tell amd64
[22:45] <linuxgeek22> that was my processor. go to thinkgos.com and click on gos. then go to the download page
[22:45] <Redundant_Userna> What does the system monitor say?
[22:45] <Nin12> shawn_, you can compile a kernel with 64GB memory support, that will work with the 32 bit versio
[22:45] <physic> hi alllllllllllll
[22:45] <Nin12> shawn_, dunno why ubuntu's standard kernels have it off
[22:45] <physic> i cant play vcd ?
[22:45] <Chousuke> shawn_: does uname -a hint at 64-bit in any way?
[22:45] <physic> what i have to do?
[22:45] <Fox> ActionParsnip: Hey I am trying to load that new video driver. but it gets a keyserver timed out message when getting key. what gives?
[22:46] <ZykoticK9> shawn_, try "uname -m" to see what bits you're using
[22:46] <Nin12> Fox, keyserver is down.
[22:46] <shawn_> Linux Shawns-Desktop 2.6.28-15-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 18 19:25:34 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:46] <Joaz> shawn_, Chousuke - use uname -m to get architecture
[22:46] <nimrod_> how much memory does Ubuntu 9.04 64-bit support natively?
[22:46] <shawn_> x86_64
[22:46] <mgv2> this tutorial is so confusing http://www.aircrack-ng.org/doku.php?id=simple_wep_crack&DokuWiki=cbec296e942411d99ae24d8236745e79
[22:46] <Fox> Nin12: how long till its back up?
[22:46] <Joaz> then you have 64 bit version shawn_
[22:46] <ikonia> nimrod_: more than you have
[22:46] <Chousuke> right, so you have the right system. hmm
[22:46] <shawn_> Joaz Then why wont my RAM show up
[22:46] <crystufer> Hey, I'm installing proprietary alsa drivers. What does Step 2. Turn on sound support from kernel config
[22:46] <crystufer> 	(soundcore module, default turn on) mean?
[22:46] <nimrod_> ikonia, i thought so :P
[22:47] <Chousuke> shawn_: what method are you using to look up your RAM?
[22:47] <Joaz> shawn_, maybe bad memory?
[22:47] <Nin12> Fox, dunno, it's not working for me for over a week, but they just told e you can use apt-get install and it'll work anyway
[22:47] <Halitech> Chousuke, shawn_ no, he has a 64bit machine, not a 64 bit install
[22:47] <linuxgeek22> exactly
[22:47] <Timarvay> Hey, just burned an Ubuntu disk and I'm using it to run this. Anyone wanna play tech support for me?
[22:47] <shawn_> Chousuke: Something called conky
[22:47] <linuxgeek22> sure
[22:47] <Halitech> shawn_, post the entire result of uname -a
[22:48] <nanotube> !ask | Timarvay
[22:48] <crystufer> Timarvay, Just ask.
[22:48] <linuxgeek22> i will timarvay
[22:48] <shawn_> halitech Linux Shawns-Desktop 2.6.28-15-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 18 19:25:34 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:48] <physic> any one can help me?
[22:48] <tehC0unt> hey can anyone give me some advice on how to get ubuntu to recognize my ethernet card?
[22:48] <linuxgeek22> sure
[22:48] <crystufer> !ask physic
[22:48] <Halitech> yannick__, I told you 3 times now, post the question in the channel and not to me in pm
[22:48] <sebsebseb> !ask |  physic
[22:48] <iceroot> shawn_: you are using the wrong ubuntu-version. if uname -r does nt tell amd64 you are using 32bit
[22:48] <Fox> Nin12: thanks
[22:48] <crystufer> Lol. that didnt' work.
[22:48] <shawn_> iceroot Linux Shawns-Desktop 2.6.28-15-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 18 19:25:34 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:48] <crystufer> Step 2. Turn on sound support from kernel config
[22:48] <crystufer> 	(soundcore module, default turn on)            What does this garbage mean?
[22:48] <shawn_> iceroot that says 64 in it
[22:49] <linuxgeek22> it should automatically. try typing in lspci in the terminal (accessories->terminal
[22:49] <iceroot> shawn_: yes, wrong version
[22:49] <Halitech> shawn_, you have the 32bit version installed, if you had 64bit installed it would look like mine ... Linux debian 2.6.26-2-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 19 22:33:18 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:49] <iceroot> shawn_: the 64bit there says your cpu can handle 64bit
[22:49] <Timarvay> Ah. So, I just started using Ubuntu. I want to dual boot it with Windows XP, but I have issues with my XP install. Namely, I can't do anything with it because of a virus. Can't even boot into safemode. Is there someway to partition things so I don't uninstall it by I have a working Ubuntu install?
[22:49] <linuxgeek22> does lightscribe work with 64.bit ubuntu
[22:49] <Nin12> iceroot, you sure about that, i downloaded 64bit edition and this is what mine says
[22:49] <iceroot> shawn_: its the architektur of your cpu
[22:49] <iceroot> linuxgeek22: yes
[22:49] <Nin12> iceroot Linux laptop 2.6.30.7 #1 SMP Wed Sep 16 22:05:25 CEST 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:49] <linuxgeek22> how do i set it up
[22:49] <shawn_> iceroot, halitech: Damnit... But the file I burned to disk had AMD64 in the title...
[22:49] <iceroot> Nin12: uname -r
[22:50] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: ok if you got malware installed into any OS, the only true way to make sure it is gone, is to clean install th OS
[22:50] <linuxgeek22> ubuntu lts 8.0.4
[22:50] <Nin12> iceroot 2.6.30.7
[22:50] <tehC0unt> linuxgeek22 i typed it in and its not showing up
[22:50] <iceroot> Nin12: post the full output
[22:50] <Flannel> Timarvay: Dualbooting doesn't require a reinstall, so yes.  Regular dual boot instructions will leave your windows intact
[22:50] <mgv2> why i don't get ath0 in monitor mode but wlan0 instead? (airocrack tutorial)
[22:50] <Nin12> but i'm sure its 64bit, since i have 64 bit binaries installed on the system and they run
[22:50] <crystufer> Timarvay, If you broke windows, you should really just fresh install the windows and leave space for ubuntu.
[22:50] <Halitech> shawn_, well, unless you inadvertantly installed the 32bit kernel I'm not sure
[22:50] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: dual booting with an infected XP install doesn't sound that good,  even though your Windows virus won't infect Ubuntu
[22:50] <Chousuke> hm
[22:50] <Timarvay> Heh, I broke Windows quite well, I think. Vundo, as far as I can tell.
[22:51] <shawn_> Halitech: Did I need to do something special to select 64 bit after its on the disk? X_X
[22:51] <Redundant_Userna> Use a linux virus scanner and scan your windows partion
[22:51] <Halitech> shawn_, no, the 64bit disk should install only the 64bit version
[22:51] <linuxgeek22> grab avg
[22:51] <Timarvay> Would it be safe to copy some saved movies and PDFs over to Linux from the infected Windows?
[22:51] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: If you have enough RAM and depending on what Windows programs you want to run,  you can do a Windows virtual machine inside Ubuntu, and then if you get a virus or whatever again, you can  easilly delete it like a normal file,  and use a clean backup or re install.   Also Wine can run many Windows programs in Ubuntu.
[22:51] <crystufer> Timarvay, Well then you have your answer. Mount the disk, burn off the personal files, reinstall windows and leave 20g free for linux.
[22:52] <shawn_> Halitech: Then why wouldnt it work X_X
[22:52] <mgv2> how can i download all pictures at once in thunderbird email?
[22:52] <Chousuke> the linux kernel for 64-bit ubuntu does not seem to be named -amd64
[22:52] <Chousuke> just generic
[22:52] <Redundant_Userna> http://free.avg.com/download avg for linux
[22:52] <Chousuke> shawn_: as far as I can tell, you are running the 64-bit version :/
[22:52] <Nin12> Timarvay, even if the virus was in the pdf's(which is unlikely) the exploit it uses will probably be tuned for windows and will not work (even if the same bug is there in the linux program) so it's safe
[22:52] <crystufer> Step 2. Turn on sound support from kernel config
[22:52] <crystufer> 	(soundcore module, default turn on)      What is this nonsense?
[22:53] <Chousuke> shawn_: jaunty, right?
[22:53] <Halitech> shawn_, I don't know
[22:53] <shawn_> Chousuke Then why is my RAM not showing up and yes Jaunty
[22:53] <Chousuke> shawn_: I don't know about the RAM...
[22:53] <Timarvay> Alright, I'm reading through the instructions to partition again. Is there a way to tell how much RAM I have without cracking my computer open and looking inside?
[22:53] <Nin12> Timarvay, type cat /proc/meminfo
[22:53] <Chousuke> shawn_: run "top". how much RAM does it show?
[22:53] <Timarvay> Do I type that here?
[22:53] <anvo> What is the "web server document root" folder...?
[22:53] <sebsebseb> !terminal |  Timarvay
[22:54] <Nin12> anvo, where it gets the webpages to serve
[22:54] <shawn_> chousuke  3309180k total
[22:54] <Timarvay> Thanks everyone!
[22:54] <Chousuke> shawn_: weird.
[22:54] <Nin12> shawn_, u sure it actually has more than that?
[22:54] <Chousuke> shawn_: it's not disabled in the BIOS or anything?
[22:54] <anvo> I mean, where is it located...?
[22:54] <shawn_> Nin12 I have 6GB DDR2
[22:54] <iceroot> shawn_: my 64bit system is saying 2.6.28-15-generic   so there is no amd64 in the string
[22:54] <iceroot> shawn_: i am sorry for that
[22:54] <shawn_> iceroot Oh
[22:55] <Chousuke> shawn_: are you sure your motherboard supports more than ~3.2GB?
[22:55] <shawn_> Chousuke: How would I know if its disabled in the Bios
[22:55] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: you should  sort out that infected XP install really as well, by either  attempting to clean it, or  by re installing.
[22:55] <ikonia> shawn_: show me the output of "uname -a" please.
[22:55] <iceroot> shawn_: but 3.2 gb sounds hard like 32bit issue
[22:55] <andrew__> umm any idea where to look for help on a bash command ?
[22:55] <mgv2> what if i want any search i make on the internet to be submitted to a website always. for example i do amazon search but i want that my search will also be just submited to a search engine other than amazon?
[22:55] <Chousuke> shawn_: you would have to look through the BIOS settings :/
[22:55] <shawn_> Chousuke: How can I check if my motherboard supports it
[22:55] <Chousuke> shawn_: I suppose you'd need to look at the manual
[22:55] <ikonia> shawn_: show me the output of "uname -a" please.
[22:55] <Timarvay> Sebsebsec: I was planning on trying to deal with it from here. I hit a wall when I couldn't go into Safemode.
[22:55] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: and it makes things a bit easier if Windows is installed first, when doing dual boots
[22:55] <shawn_> ikonia Linux Shawns-Desktop 2.6.28-15-generic #49-Ubuntu SMP Tue Aug 18 19:25:34 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[22:55] <iceroot> Chousuke: his bios says 6gb at boot
[22:56] <ikonia> shawn_: ok - that's a 64bit kernel
[22:56] <Chousuke> iceroot: yeah. so probably it's supported
[22:56] <linuxgeek22> my ram is 2.0 gb
[22:56] <Chousuke> iceroot: but who knows. BIOSes are weird. :/
[22:56] <iceroot> Chousuke: but 3.2gb sounds hard like 32bit issue
[22:56] <ikonia> shawn_: can you pastebin the output of "cat /proc/meminfo" please
[22:56] <shawn_> ikonia Alright
[22:56] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: ok as long as Windows was shut down properly, should be able to access it's partition, no problem, and then gain access to data that you can back up :)  and re install the OS,  a psyical install or virtual machine.   You can also try deleting infected files using the Live CD.
[22:57] <shawn_> ikonia http://pastebin.com/m4c28590c
[22:57] <anvo> Whete is the "web server document root" folder located...?
[22:57] <anvo> Whete=where!
[22:57] <iceroot> anvo: /var/www/
[22:57] <Timarvay> Should be relatively easy. I'd prefer to keep the XP install and a few files, but I don't need anything else off it.
[22:57] <nmvictor> SBAR
[22:58] <tehC0unt> is it possible that i need to install the drivers before it will recognize my card?
[22:58] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: well it got infected, you should do a clean install of the OS  really it's as simple as that,  it could be doing quite a few bad things now, when it's loaded up and connected to the Internet.
[22:59] <bbb1> Hey all, where can I find the gnome network manager? I looked under System->Admin->Network and it's not there. /Newbie
[22:59] <nikolaj> anyone help, I have an external hard drive which seems to mount and work fine for 15/20 mins
[22:59] <nikolaj> then it just disappears
[22:59] <Timarvay> I don't believe it is connected when I'm using Ubuntu is it?
[22:59] <nikolaj> any ideas?
[22:59] <Nin12> Timarvay, take that seriously, someone in my country was sued over a shitload of damages because his computer was taking part in ddos attack
[22:59] <nikolaj> then I can switch it off and it won't be recognised anymore
[22:59] <physic> i said when  i put vcd to my ubuntu it say could not read from resource
[22:59] <physic> but when i click to play disk from movie player it play first video only
[22:59] <DasEi> shawn_: sorry, was off for a moment, broken ram ?
[22:59] <Arabus> bbb1: normally the network manager should be found in the upper right corner displayed as a small monitor icon
[23:00] <physic>  when  i put vcd to my ubuntu it say could not read from resource
[23:00] <physic> but when i click to play disk from movie player it play first video only
[23:00] <ikonia> shawn_: what does the memtest boot option show
[23:00] <physic>  when  i put vcd to my ubuntu it say could not read from resource
[23:00] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[23:00] <physic> but when i click to play disk from movie player it play first video track
[23:00] <bbb1> Repeat: Hey all, where can I find the gnome network manager? I looked under System->Admin->Network and it's not there. /Newbie
[23:00] <Halitech> physic, use vlc
[23:00] <shawn_> DasEi I just bought it the other day from Bestbuy could it seriously be broken? And I havnt checked the memtest thing before
[23:00] <shawn_> Not DasEi sorry
[23:00] <physic>  i did
[23:00] <physic> Halitech,didnt play anything
[23:01] <shawn_> Ikonia I just bought it the other day from Bestbuy could it seriously be broken? And I havnt checked the memtest thing before
[23:01] <DasEi> shawn_: test them as pair or single
[23:01] <bbb1> Anyone?
[23:01] <assinine> When I try to play a video, the sound doesnt play at all. Can anyone explain this to me?
[23:01] <bbb1> Repeat: Hey all, where can I find the gnome network manager? I looked under System->Admin->Network and it's not there. /Newbie
[23:01] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: yep take computer security  seriously,  Ubuntu, other Linux distros, BSD,   Windows,  Mac OS X, and so on, none of them are 100% immune to malware
[23:01] <ikonia> shawn_: checking the memtest option is worth it
[23:01] <Halitech> physic, do you have it in an iso or folders?
[23:01] <shawn_> ikonia Alright Ill go try that now... Ill be back here in a few minutes to tell you what it says
[23:01] <Arabus> bbb1: normally the network manager should be found in the upper right corner displayed as a small monitor icon
[23:01] <Halitech> the only secure computer is one thats turned off and buried in concrete
[23:01] <physic> Halitechveideos?
[23:01] <claudio__> server irc.tin.it
[23:01] <physic> Halitech,videos?
[23:02] <ikonia> shawn_: be interesting
[23:02] <ikonia> claudio__: ?
[23:02] <DasEi> bb1: using gnome ?
[23:02] <Nin12> Halitech, I explained to someone that the best firewall would be unplugging the network cable, yet she wasn't so sure about that
[23:02] <bbb1> @Arabus: I don't see anything up there
[23:02] <Arabus> bbb1: do you use gnome?
[23:02] <bbb1> I have a battery two monitors a mail icon and a mute
[23:02] <bbb1> how would I know if I use gnome?
[23:02] <Halitech> physic, are they cds? are they in an iso format? are they ???????
[23:02] <Timarvay> Yeah, I don't quite know where I got it, to be honest. Looking like I should probably snag files off Windows and just reinstall. Or not reinstall, really. All I care about Windows for is running some games. How is Wine for modern ones?
[23:02] <Arabus> bbb1: the two monitors should be the entwork manager
[23:03] <Arabus> *network
[23:03] <nimrod_> how can i burn a 950mb iso-cd on a cd?
[23:03] <DasEi> bb1:ubuntu not kubuntu installed
[23:03] <physic> no they are in dat format
[23:03] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: which games?
[23:03] <bbb1> but it doesn't open anywhere
[23:03] <ShapeShifter499> I have a acer aspire one netbook, I just received it back from the acer repair center with a bum webcam(it wouldn't work in windows or ubuntu), now I got a few questions, I just installed my ubuntu system can I dd backup it using a livecd backing it up via samba(or other file share) to my other ubuntu laptop?  than restore it back to my acer with the backup?
[23:03] <thepoet> anybody know a good socks5 proxy?
[23:03] <sebsebseb> !who |  Timarvay
[23:03] <Arabus> bbb1: tried a right-click?
[23:03] <bbb1> I'm trying to get wireless working
[23:03] <bbb1> windows machine
[23:03] <physic> Halitech, no they are in .dat format
[23:03] <bbb1> dual boot
[23:03] <assinine> When I try to play a video, the sound doesnt play at all. Can anyone explain this to me?
[23:03] <bbb1> having fun
[23:03] <Timarvay> Sebsebseb: A few off Steam that I don't think will run, but then mostly old ones like Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri.
[23:03] <Nin12> Dell refuses to give warranty if you used linux.
[23:03] <DasEi> bb1:whereis network-manager-gnome ,is it installed ?
[23:04] <ikonia> bbb1: the guys in ##windows can help you with your windows problems
[23:04] <thepoet> SOCKS5 proxy anybody?
[23:04] <Nin12> even when it was an obvious hardware problem
[23:04] <ikonia> Nin12: not an #ubuntu issue
[23:04] <ikonia> thepoet: what about it ?
[23:04] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: ok I hear Steam works in Wine,  and  old game so non 3D?
[23:04] <bbb1> Thanks.
[23:04] <DasEi> thepoet: yes..
[23:04] <shawn_> ikonia: It said something like this: error 28 selected file cannot boot into memory
[23:04] <thepoet> ikonia i need a good one
[23:04] <bbb1> So i go to #ubuntu and then ##windows?
[23:04] <Timarvay> Sebsebseb: Yeah. Definately non 3-d.
[23:04] <DasEi> bb1: /j ##windows
[23:04] <ikonia> thepoet: "socks5" is actually a socks5 server name, quite solid if not a little old
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: I think you will be ok, and not have a proper reason to have Windows on dual boot
[23:05] <Nin12> ikonia, does it need to be anonymous?
[23:05] <assinine> hi
[23:05] <ShapeShifter499> anyone?
[23:05] <thepoet> i just needaproxy to run my irc client through
[23:05] <ikonia> Nin12: does what need to be anonymous
[23:05] <assinine> my name is assinine
[23:05] <Halitech> physic, .dat files are ....  look here and see if this helps http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=4950507&postcount=6
[23:05] <assinine> When I try to play a video, the sound doesnt play at all. Can anyone explain this to me?
[23:05] <ikonia> thepoet: squid will work fine
[23:05] <Nin12> i meant thepoet sorry
[23:05] <ikonia> thepoet: iptables can work too
[23:05] <Timarvay> Sebsebseb: I assume I can reinstall later if I find a reason too, yes?
[23:05] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: indeed
[23:05] <Nin12> use openvpn, its not socks5 but better
[23:05] <Arabus> assinine: does the sound work at all?
[23:05] <bbb1> test
[23:05] <thepoet> ikonia: i'm using tor right now
[23:06] <iceroot> i am using ALL: 77.105.217.186 in /etc/hosts.deny  but why there are still pop3 brute-force-attacks?
[23:06] <shawn_> ikonia: It said something like this: error 28 selected file cannot boot into memory
[23:06] <physic> Halitech, ok
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: also  Windows virtual machine :)  as long as you got enough RAM
[23:06] <assinine> Arabus: no, it works very well on other programs.
[23:06] <ikonia> shawn_: don't know what that means, but it sounds like it's having a problem with that laptop
[23:06] <Timarvay> SebsebSeb: Using the Ubuntu installer to wipe Windows will be good enough, yes?
[23:06] <bbb1> I'm supposed to: Open the Networking Admin tool (System | Administration | Networking), select the Wireless connection and click Properties, ensure the Enable roaming mode checkbox is ticked.
[23:06] <shawn_> ikonia: Its a desktop
[23:06] <bbb1> trying to get wifi working
[23:06] <Arabus> assinine: then it might be a problem of the media player you are using. which program do you use to play the video?
[23:06] <bbb1> thanks for your help
[23:06] <ikonia> shawn_: sorry, I meant memory
[23:06] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: yes, but make sure you got your stuff first
[23:06] <Nin12> iceroot, type this iptables -I INPUT -s  77.105.217.186 -j DROP
[23:06] <Nin12> iceroot, better than /etc/hosts.deny, as it works for every program
[23:07] <iceroot> Nin12: dont have iptables (vroot)
[23:07] <Timarvay> Sebsebseb: Yeah. Any good ways to do that you can think of? I'm running off a disk right now.
[23:07] <bbb1> I'm supposed to: Open the Networking Admin tool (System | Administration | Networking), select the Wireless connection and click Properties, ensure the Enable roaming mode checkbox is ticked.
[23:07] <purpzey> bbb1: Are you sure your network card is supported by Ubuntu?
[23:07] <bbb1> But I don't see that anywhere
[23:07] <assinine> Arabus: I don't know which one it is, It's what ever one came with Super-OS for playing flash video.
[23:07] <bbb1> Ummm... I'm using the ndiswrapper
[23:07] <shawn_> ikonia Well the RAM is my motherboard is usually 667 Mhz and the one I bought I think is 800 Mhz but it says its compatible with 667 Mhz could this be something to do with it or do you think the RAM is deffective?
[23:07] <bbb1> *trying
[23:07] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: places > computer and you should be able to access the Windows partition
[23:07] <iceroot> Nin12: so you mean /etc/hosts.deny does not effect all daemons (like pop3)
[23:08] <ikonia> shawn_: no idea,
[23:08] <Nin12> iceroot, i think it only works for inetd based servers, and openssh, not 100% sure doh
[23:08] <Halitech> shawn_, does your board support 800mhz ram? normally it *should* drop to the lower speed but not always
[23:08] <Timarvay> Sebsebseb: They'll stay after install though, right? Haven't run off a CD in ages.
[23:08] <ikonia> shawn_: quicker ram can be a problem somtimes, you may want to join ##hardware and ask some of the guys for a ram testing trick or two
[23:08] <iceroot> Nin12: ok that can be the reason why http-blocks work but pop3 not
[23:08] <shawn_> Halitech I have no idea what speed my motherboard will support
[23:08] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: oh right yeah that's a point, you need to move the data to some where else
[23:08] <Nin12> iceroot, it didn't work for me atleast the block spammer from trying to use my smtp as an open relay(it refused to send his mails, but he kept on trying causing huge cpu load)
[23:08] <Halitech> shawn_, do you know the model number?
[23:09] <shawn_> halitech Of my motherboard?
[23:09] <Halitech> shawn_, yes
[23:09] <Arabus> assinine: ok I do not know much about super-OS it might be that the flash plugin uses the wrong sound driver. To change that, try to find the properties option of said player.
[23:09] <iceroot> is there an alternative to iptables? (cant use iptables because its a vroot)
[23:09] <bbb1> @purpzey: I'm trying to use ndiswrapper
[23:09] <bbb1> the next step is to do that
[23:09] <shawn_> Halitech One sec I have it written here somewhere
[23:09] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: or make a new partition, or delete everything from the Windows partition except the data,  I have done that before
[23:09] <bbb1> going by https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[23:09] <Arabus> iceroot: try ufw
[23:09] <assinine> Arabus: how do I find out which flash plugin it is?
[23:09] <afallenhope> iceroot, netfilter..
[23:09] <Timarvay> SebSebSeb: Can I pull the disk out and burn to a new one without upsetting Ubuntu?
[23:10] <iceroot> Arabus: its using iptables in the background imo
[23:10] <Nin12> iceroot, you sure iptables doenst work? my vps has it
[23:10] <afallenhope> Arabus, ufw is simply a iptables front
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: well when I did it wasn't exactly data, but this is irelivant.   Ok you only got one CD drive?
[23:10] <iceroot> Nin12: my not
[23:10] <Arabus> assinine: I asume you use a browser to open a web page where you want to play a flash video ?
[23:10] <Timarvay> Sebsebseb: Afraid so.
[23:10] <afallenhope> font-end
[23:10] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: USB stick?  external hard disk?
[23:10] <Nin12> iceroot, and if you install it? apt-get install iptables
[23:10] <assinine> Arabus: yes
[23:10] <iceroot> Nin12: i am using the kernel from the host, not from my vm
[23:10] <iceroot> Nin12: i cant access kernel-moduls
[23:11] <shawn_> Halitech It is an Intel 965 motherboard
[23:11] <DasEi> shawn_: you get prbly set your bios to auto ram settings, have a url of the manual meanwhile ? more a question for #hardware,  maybe let's go over, less crowded
[23:11] <Timarvay> Sebsebseb:USB I can do. Didn't think of that, but probably the best way.
[23:11] <shawn_> Halitech It is an Intel P965 motherboard*
[23:11] <Arabus> assinine: depending on the browser you use there should be an addons option in the top bar
[23:11] <iceroot> afallenhope: i will have a look at netfilter, thx
[23:11] <Flannel> Nin12: You don't burn a 950MB iso to a CD, where did you get one that was 950MB?
[23:11] <afallenhope> iceroot, np. it's the same company...
[23:11] <Flannel> nimrod_: ^^ Sorry Nin12
[23:11] <Nin12> iceroot, It works with OpenVZ also using the host kernel, u probably have some other virtualization system then. you can try adding a route sending all traffic to that ip to the lo interface
[23:12] <assinine> Arabus: you mean like under tools in FireFx?
[23:12] <Arabus> yes
[23:12] <iceroot> Nin12: hm, imo its openvz here
[23:12] <iceroot> Nin12: openvcp it is here
[23:12] <Nin12> iceroot, then it should work, but u cant use every module
[23:12] <Halitech> shawn_, this says up to 800mhz http://www.intel.com/products/desktop/chipsets/p965/p965-overview.htm
[23:13] <nimrod_> Flannel, i found a iso who are over 900mb, but it wont burn on a dvd
[23:13] <Nin12> iceroot, im 99% sure openvcp lets u use iptables try installing it
[23:13] <assinine> Arabus: It says I have shockwave flash.
[23:13] <iceroot> Nin12: it is installed but says it cant access some kernel-moduls
[23:13] <Flannel> nimrod_: Which ISO is this?
[23:13] <Nin12> nimrod0, try burning it to a cd, you can if you use overburn, but the disk will be bad quality, whats the iso for?
[23:14] <Nin12> iceroot, ok sucks. they disabled it probably, or the host kernel hasn't got iptables
[23:14] <nimrod_> Flannel, it is a Linux distro.
[23:14] <iceroot> Nin12: yes, that should be the reason :(
[23:14] <ShapeShifter499> I have a acer aspire one netbook, I just received it back from the acer repair center with a bum webcam(it wouldn't work in windows or ubuntu), now I got a few questions, I just installed my ubuntu system can I dd backup it using a livecd backing it up via samba(or other file share) to my other ubuntu laptop?  than restore it back to my acer with the backup?
[23:14] <jwb-iii> irc.coapt.nrt
[23:14] <jwb-iii> irc.coapt.net
[23:14] <Arabus> assinine: you might try reinstalling it - for this you have to remove the plugin
[23:14] <Timarvay> SebSebSeb: Well, I'm going to go do that. Thanks for everything.
[23:14] <Flannel> nimrod_: You'll need to ask their support places how to use it.
[23:15] <sebsebseb> Timarvay: see my pm
[23:15] <Nin12> nimrod try going with santrex if you can change, cheap and good and with iptables
[23:15] <assinine> Arabus: ok, i'll try that right now
[23:15] <Halitech> shawn_, did you say you ran memtest from the live cd and it was okay?
[23:15] <mathieui> 23:21:58 [Freenode] DCC SEND from FreenodeUser [0.0.0.0 port 0]: startkeylogger [0B bytes] requested in channel #ubuntu
[23:15] <Arabus> assinine: what browser do you use?
[23:15] <nimrod_> Flannel, i don't find any irc channel on this distro
[23:15] <ikonia> mathieui: report in #freenode
[23:15]  * mathieui lol'd hard
[23:15] <mathieui> bah, I don't care
[23:15] <mathieui> that's just funny
[23:16] <Flannel> nimrod_: Which distro?
[23:16] <mathieui> I got that only here
[23:16] <assinine> Arabus: Firefox. How do you remove a plugin? There is no uninstall option for it in Frefox
[23:16] <mathieui> and always the same file
[23:16] <nimrod_> Flannel, Dreamlinux
[23:16] <Nin12> funny how many ppl got disconnected after the request was sent :P
[23:16] <shawn_> Halitech I ran them memtest from the Grub boot screen
[23:16] <jiffe> is there a way of doing a checksum of files currently installed from a package versus what is in the package?
[23:16] <jiffe> ie get a list of modified files
[23:16] <Halitech> shawn_, and it saw and tested all the ram fine?
[23:17] <shawn_> Halitech no it said : Error 28 selected file cannot be booted or something like that
[23:17] <Halitech> shawn_, so you couldn't get into memtest from grub?
[23:17] <shawn_> Halitech negative
[23:18] <Halitech> shawn_, do you have a live cd kicking around?
[23:18] <Flannel> nimrod_: http://www.dreamlinuxforums.org/ or it appears they have tutorials and a wiki too: http://www.dreamlinux.com.br/tutorials.html and http://www.dreamlinuxforums.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page  the tutorials have a section on installing it looks like
[23:18] <DreamsofanEagle> Ok, I need some help, some more
[23:18] <shawn_> Halitech Yes I have a 32 bit one a 64 bit one and I also have gparte
[23:18] <Halitech> shawn_, boot from the 64bit live cd and run memtest from there
[23:18] <nimrod_> Flannel, yes, i'm going to take a look there, thanks for your time =)
[23:18] <DreamsofanEagle> I need a player that has WMA support, all my CDs are in WMA format instead of MP3 and I aint sure that I can find them all
[23:18] <shawn_> Halitech alright Ill get back to you
[23:19] <DreamsofanEagle> The player that comes with Ubuntu will crash the system if you try and play music for anything longer than 5 minutes :(
[23:19] <Halitech> shawn_, with 6gig, its probably going to take awhile
[23:19] <Bodsda> Hi, if I am running compiz, is that my window manager? meaning I am no longer using metacity?
[23:19] <KB1JWQ> DreamsofanEagle: VLC should work.
[23:19] <shawn_> Halitech Oh... Like how long?
[23:19] <purpzey> DreamsofanEagle: Have you tried VLC?
[23:19] <soreau> Bodsda: Correct
[23:19] <Halitech> shawn_, like a few hours probably
[23:20] <DreamsofanEagle> Yes, and it doesn't have playlists I don't think
[23:20] <DreamsofanEagle> one sec
[23:20] <Paddy_NI> Bodsda, no
[23:20] <Arabus> assinine: hmm ok I do encounter that problem for the first time. never noticed how difficult it can be to get rid of the plugin
[23:20] <Bodsda> soreau: Paddy_NI -- wanna fight it out between you?
[23:20] <bbb1> Hey all (again), I'm trying to get to "Now, navigate to System>Administration>Networking.", but under "System>Administration", I don't have "Networking". What should I do to get it? Thanks. /Newbie
[23:20] <XDS2010> Any DMOZ edditors here ?
[23:20] <erobcastro> leave
[23:20] <soreau> Bodsda: I beg your pardon?
[23:20] <Gnea> Tried audacious?
[23:20] <shawn_> Halitech: Will that tell me if my RAM is deffective or not?
[23:20] <XDS2010> Or know any of them ?
[23:20] <Halitech> shawn_, yes it will
[23:20] <Bodsda> soreau: Paddy_NI -- are you both saying that I am not using using metacity?
[23:20] <Paddy_NI> Bodsda, Compiz replaces gtk-window-decorator where as emerald would replace metacity.. I think :P
[23:20] <shawn_> Halitech Thank you
[23:20] <XDS2010> I'd like to start a ubuntu section there
[23:20] <assinine> Arabus: how did you get rid of it?
[23:21] <Paddy_NI> Bodsda, metacity is the window decorator
[23:21] <Bodsda> Paddy_NI: so could I run, gnome fluxbox and compiz?
[23:21] <tehC0unt> is there anywhere i can check what pci cards are compatible with ubuntu
[23:21] <Gnea> !audacious
[23:21] <soreau> Bodsda: Yes. Compiz is a WM and so is metacity. Only one WM can run at any given time
[23:21] <Paddy_NI> Bodsda, yes
[23:21] <Bodsda> oh dear
[23:21] <bbb1> Hey all (again), I'm trying to get to "Now, navigate to System>Administration>Networking.", but under "System>Administration", I don't have "Networking". What should I do to get it? Thanks. /Newbie
[23:21] <Bodsda> soreau: thats what I thought
[23:21] <soreau> Bodsda: No, fluxbox is a WM so you can't use it with any other WM (like metacity or compiz)
[23:21] <Gnea> !info audacious
[23:21] <purpzey> !hardware | tehC0unt
[23:21] <Bodsda> Paddy_NI: how can I do so?
[23:22] <assinine> soreau: how do you choose between the 2 wm's?
[23:22] <Paddy_NI> Bodsda, are you currently running gnome with fluxbox at the moment?
[23:22] <tehC0unt> prpzey and ubottu thank you is there a hardware channel?
[23:22] <bbb1> Anyone?
[23:22] <bbb1> Hey all (again), I'm trying to get to "Now, navigate to System>Administration>Networking.", but under "System>Administration", I don't have "Networking". What should I do to get it? Thanks. /Newbie
[23:22] <jrib> bbb1: why?
[23:22] <Bodsda> Paddy_NI: no. I have fluxbox installed, but I do not know how to set it up with gnome. I wish to run gnome with the functionality of fluxbox and the eye candy of compiz
[23:22] <dragon> bbb1: what are you trying to accomplish?
[23:22] <soreau> assinine: To select between compiz and metacity in ubuntu, use sys>prefs>appearance>visual effects tab. None will select metacity. Anything else will be compiz
[23:22] <bbb1> I don't know, I've read a few articles, and I have to get there to get my wireless working
[23:23] <Paddy_NI> Bodsda, just a moment I spotted a good guide for that a while back
[23:23] <soreau> Bodsda: Not possible
[23:23] <jrib> !wifi > bbb1
[23:23] <dsdeiz> anyone here using swiftweasel?
[23:23] <bbb1> I have to do the windows driver deal
[23:23] <jrib> bbb1: those articles are for older versions
[23:23] <jrib> bbb1: read the wiki
[23:23] <Bodsda> soreau: Paddy_NI seems to think it is
[23:23] <bbb1> I have read it
[23:23] <dsdeiz> so i only needed the executable file when extracting the tar.gz file?
[23:23] <soreau> Bodsda: Even if you run a fluxbox session, compiz will replace the fluxbox WM
[23:23] <jrib> !who | bbb1
[23:23] <jrib> bbb1: and?
[23:23] <bbb1> Now, navigate to System>Administration>Networking.  The card should be there.  Activate and configure per usual.
[23:23] <assinine> soreau: there is no metacity option there
[23:23] <bbb1> how would I do that
[23:23] <soreau> assinine: Read what I said
[23:23] <jrib> bbb1: like I said, that's for an older version of ubuntu
[23:24] <dragon> what'd be a reasonable Desktop manager to run exactly one particular application, with no panels or window decorations?
[23:24] <bbb1> What's the equiv.?
[23:24] <dragon> !enter| bbb1
[23:24] <Bodsda> soreau: expanding on assinine's question, how would I select fluxbox instead of compiz or metacity?
[23:24] <Paddy_NI> Bodsda, gah it seems you cannot anymore
[23:24] <Bodsda> Paddy_NI: :(
[23:24] <jrib> bbb1: what card is this/
[23:24] <bbb1> (thanks for your help)
[23:24] <Paddy_NI> Bodsda, It used to be slightly possible with a rough bit of hackery
[23:24] <soreau> Bodsda: I do not know how fluxbox works. AFAIK, it's not part of ubuntu by default
[23:24] <Bodsda> Paddy_NI: ok, no worries, cheers
[23:24] <bbb1> Dell 1470
[23:25] <jrib> bbb1: if you want my attention, you need to use my nick
[23:25] <Bodsda> soreau: no it isnt. But gnome is a DE and it uses metacity for its window manager, I wish to change this to fluxbox
[23:25] <dracnoc> hackery... now there's a fine word - just like "Autumnal"
[23:25] <bbb1> like jrid: Dell 1470
[23:25] <bbb1> (I'm a newbie.. sorry)
[23:25] <Paddy_NI> Bodsda, fluxbox can do some really pretty things to http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Transparency
[23:25] <jrib> bbb1: hrmm, the wireless on my old dell works fine and the recent ones should also work fine.  What page are you reading?
[23:25] <bbb1> http://dansteingart.com/useful-ubuntu-breezy-on-a-dell-b130/
[23:26] <DreamsofanEagle> OK, VLC is alright, but I wanted something that had the playlist in an already open window and easy for me to select what song I want
[23:26] <jrib> bbb1: that's not from the wiki...
[23:26] <bbb1> I was also reading https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[23:26] <Bodsda> Paddy_NI: I usually use fluxbox on its own, But I miss gnomes themes and wish to use the tabbed window functionality from fluxbox, in gnome
[23:26] <jrib> bbb1: the first link is way too old from 2005 and you should try to avoid ndiswrapper if possible
[23:26] <bbb1> jrib: what should I do then to get the wifi?
[23:27] <bbb1> jrid: I have a dell inspiron b130
[23:27] <purpzey> DreamsofanEagle: You can try Amarok, I'm not sure if it plays WMA, I think it might. I just can't remember.
[23:27] <jrib> bbb1: In System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers, do you have any available?
[23:27] <DreamsofanEagle> it won't
[23:28] <bbb1> jrib: I think it found one for Broadcom... hopefully it works
[23:28] <Bodsda> How can I get the tabbed window functionality of fluxbox into gnome?
[23:28] <jrib> bbb1: yeah, it works on my macbook great.  Just reboot after it installs
[23:28] <bbb1> jrib: ok, and that should work?
[23:28] <jrib> Bodsda: use fluxbox as the window manager in gnome?
[23:28] <jrib> bbb1: yep, you should have a network-manager icon in your traying offering you different networks
[23:28] <bbb1> jrib: thanks for all your help!
[23:29] <jrib> bbb1: good luck
[23:29] <bbb1> jrib: restarting now...
[23:29] <purpzey> DreamsofanEagle: According to what I just read XMMS should.
[23:29] <Bodsda> jrib: I would love to, but I cant find any 'recent' documentation on how to do so, can you assist?
[23:29] <bbb1> jrib: bye
[23:29] <jrib> Bodsda: I haven't done it in a while, but fluxbox wiki used to have a guide iirc
[23:29] <Sun3vi1> What are the major differences between jaunty and hardy? Any major UI differences or is it all base system
[23:29] <Paddy_NI> Bodsda, this post is quite old... still worth a look though http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=63734
[23:29] <Bodsda> jrib: yeah, I found a few links to such an article, but it seems dead now
[23:30] <yermandu_> can someone give tips how i can add and set themes in gkt for lxde?
[23:30] <server_side> how do i allow remote access in xubuntu?
[23:30] <Bodsda> Paddy_NI: the files referenced in that thread no longer exist
[23:30] <Paddy_NI> Bodsda, also try logging out and changing session to see if a flux/gnome session is already created for you
[23:30] <yermandu_> server_side with ssh
[23:30] <jrib> Bodsda: one way to set window manager is "export WINDOW_MANAGER=/path/to/window/manager" in ~/.gnomerc.  There may be other things you wish to do as well
[23:31] <DreamsofanEagle> XMMS, is that via Synaptic or the add-remove?
[23:31] <server_side> yermandu_, with remote desktop viewer
[23:31] <Bodsda> Paddy_NI: jrib -- I'll give that a go, cheers
[23:31] <jrib> Bodsda: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=FAQ#Can_I_use_fluxbox_as_the_window_manager_in_GNOME different approach
[23:32] <dragon> what'd be a reasonable Desktop manager to run exactly one particular application, with no panels or window decorations?
[23:32] <yermandu_> server_side screen maybe
[23:32] <Sahilsk> hey, i am having a trouble with ubuntu. sometime, automaticallly , trash folder start opening up , in ubuntu. sometime 2 to 5 and sometime they go on opening and opening....my mouse start doing oppose of what it suppossed to do. is that a virus???
[23:33] <Bodsda> jrib: brilliant, I will try, thank you
[23:33] <bbb1> jrib: it works
[23:33] <jrib> bbb1: cool
[23:33] <bbb1> jrib: thanks a bunch
[23:33] <bbb1> jrib: some articles should be updated :)
[23:33] <jrib> bbb1: it's a wiki, go for it!
[23:33] <purpzey> DreamsofanEagle: It's in the repos so you can get it via synaptic or CLI.
[23:34] <bbb1> jrib: I'm thinking about it to save some other users some pain... Ubuntu was really easy besides that. Now I have a dual boot
[23:34] <bbb1> jrib: thanks again. bye
[23:34] <jrib> bbb1: bye
[23:35] <Crom> er irc.bgoc.net
[23:36] <iceroot> i have the source of a package, but i am not root, can i install/make the source to a binary without root?
[23:37] <jrib> iceroot: yes and no
[23:37] <iceroot> jrib: i know the step ./configure && make && sudo make install
[23:37] <jrib> iceroot: you can definitely compile it, but you can only install it to a directory your user can write to
[23:37] <jrib> iceroot: what are you doing exactly?
[23:37] <iceroot> jrib: i want to use yakuake on my system without root
[23:38] <iceroot> jrib: cant use apt-get
[23:38] <jrib> iceroot: why?
[23:38] <iceroot> jrib: i am not root and i am not in the sudoers
[23:38] <jrib> iceroot: ok, but why?
[23:38] <jrib> iceroot: someone else is admin?
[23:38] <iceroot> jrib: because my boss is root?
[23:39] <jrib> iceroot: easiest way is to just ask him to install yakuake, but sure you can build yakuake yourself in your ~ and run it from there
[23:39] <iceroot> jrib: we ill not do that
[23:39] <iceroot> jrib: so i can use make, to get the binary and can start that one
[23:40] <jrib> iceroot: when you run ./configure, you want to specify a prefix in your ~, not /usr/local as it usually is by default
[23:40] <iceroot> jrib: ah ok, good to know
[23:41] <dsdeiz> i just installed swiftweasel, how can i make it visible in the "x-www-browsers"?
[23:42] <Bodsda> jrib: just thought I would let you know, the fluxbox wiki has incorrect information, but if I enter exec=/usr/bin/startfluxbox  into a (may need to be created) ~/.gnomerc and then uninstall gnome-panel everything works like a charm!!! thank you so much
[23:42] <VCoolio> dsdeiz: you can install galternatives to configure x-www-browser with a gui, I forgot the cli way
[23:42] <jrib> dsdeiz: read some debian documentation on update-alternatives I guess
[23:42] <peska> Whats up everyone
[23:42] <jrib> Bodsda: hmm, you should be able to use gnome-panel though
[23:42] <jrib> Bodsda: did you try what I said
[23:43] <dracnoc> peska: my blood pressure, but are you having a good day?
[23:43] <peska> um sort of, just installed Ubuntu a couple days ago
[23:43] <Deathvalley122> can anyone tell me why remote desktop freezes for other people?
[23:43] <Bodsda> jrib: yeah, you can use the panel, but it screws with fluxbox a wee bit. I use dual screens so things were a bit strange. what do you mean 'try what I said'?
[23:43] <peska> tryin to get the hang of it
[23:44] <jrib> Bodsda: one way to set window manager is "export WINDOW_MANAGER=/path/to/window/manager" in ~/.gnomerc.  There may be other things you wish to do as well
[23:44] <VCoolio> dsdeiz: sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[23:44] <Bodsda> jrib: that is what I did, dont know what the 'other things' were though
[23:44] <dsdeiz> VCoolio: it doesn't come out there
[23:44] <jrib> Bodsda: you can ignore that
[23:44] <Bodsda> jrib: then your instructions were near perfect... again :)
[23:44] <as_> speaking of dual screens... can anyone provide insight on configuring for tv-out with early ati radeon?
[23:45] <dracnoc> peska: we've all been at "Day One" with Ubuntu - we've all been beginners. You got a question? Just ask it!
[23:45] <VCoolio> dsdeiz: ok, well, with galternatives you can add stuff, so use that
[23:45] <jrib> Bodsda: i think i saw a howto on the forums that might address the panel issue if you care
[23:45] <tomas> hey guys just a question is there a way to install a mail server on ubuntu using XAMPP
[23:45] <Bodsda> jrib: hit me :)
[23:45] <bbb> jrib: are you still around?
[23:45] <jrib> bbb: yes
[23:45] <VCoolio> dsdeiz: sudo update-alternatives --set x-www-browser /path/to/swiftweasel
[23:45] <peska> well I got this really good ebook i started reading and it said that the community was the place to go
[23:46] <dsdeiz> VCoolio: ahh, thanks
[23:46] <VCoolio> dsdeiz: according to update-alternatives --help
[23:46] <peska> so im just checkin things out introducing myself
[23:46] <Bodsda> peska: thats one truthfull e-book right there
[23:46] <dracnoc> peska, yep, we're here. Welcome!
[23:46] <peska> lol
[23:46] <bbb> jrib: one last thing, everytime I go restart the computer, I have to go back to the hardware app, and re activate the broadcom. Is there any way this can be automatic?
[23:46] <Bodsda> peska: you may want to pop into #ubuntu-offtopic though, as this is a support channel
[23:46] <peska> k
[23:46] <jrib> bbb: that's a bug, I don't know why that happens
[23:47] <bbb> jrib: this is a new install besides all the ndiswrapper junk
[23:47] <VCoolio> dsdeiz: after --set you still have to do the --config to make swiftweasel default I think
[23:47] <bbb> jrib: could ndiswrapper have done that?
[23:47] <afallenhope> Hey, I'm having an issue installing modules. When I try install modules they go to /lib/modules/2.6.28.10/extra instead of /lib/modules/2.6.28-15-generic/extra
[23:48] <peska> um... how do I get there lol
[23:48] <kewl1> hi everybody!!! i am on liveCD session cause my grub can´t load. erro 11 popup when i try HDD boot! wt to do???
[23:48] <jrib> bbb: all I can tell you is that it works as expected on my macbook.  If it's a new install and you want to see if it really is a bug or if it is because of somethings you did with ndiswrapper, then reinstall real quick.  If it persists, you should file a bug (and come back here to see if anyone can figure out what is going on).  Also check bugs.ubuntu.com before actuallying filing to see if a bug already
[23:48] <jrib> exists
[23:48] <sebsebseb> peska:   /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:48] <bbb> jrib: reinstall ubuntu?
[23:49] <peska_>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:49] <jrib> bbb: right, you said it was a new install anyway so I'm guessing you won't lose anything
[23:49] <dracnoc> ok... who told peska to quit?
[23:49] <dracnoc> :)
[23:49] <bbb> jrib: right, but couldn't I just install the app, or did it do damage already?
[23:49] <delsol> is there a linux or ubuntu distribution for the HP iPaq
[23:49] <jrib> bbb: I don't know what you did
[23:50] <bbb> jrib: I installed a few drivers and the interface thing for ndis
[23:50] <jrib> bbb: how?
[23:50] <bbb> jrib: using the interface
[23:50] <Deathvalley122> can someone tell me why remote desktop freezes for other people?
[23:50] <jrib> bbb: what interface?
[23:50] <bbb> jrib: "Windows Wireless Drivers"
[23:50] <iceroot> !details | Deathvalley122
[23:51] <jrib> bbb: I'm not familiar with it.  Anyway, it may be interfering
[23:51] <bbb> jrib: so you think reinstall then bug?
[23:51] <jrib> bbb: you can do what you said and try removing ndiswrapper first
[23:51] <Deathvalley122> how can I explain this it just freezes for other people theres no logs to it
[23:51] <afallenhope> Hey, I'm having an issue installing modules. When I try install modules they go to /lib/modules/2.6.28.10/extra instead of /lib/modules/2.6.28-15-generic/extra
[23:51] <NerveClasp> hi! sorry to interrupt, but whatc chanell is for ubuntu 9.10
[23:51] <bbb> jrib: would that be in add/remove?
[23:52] <jrib> !karmic | NerveClasp
[23:52] <jrib> bbb: yeah
[23:52] <kewl1> is there only bbb and jrib here???
[23:52] <jrib> kewl1: no
[23:52] <bbb> kewl: no
[23:52] <jrib> kewl1 is here too it seems :)
[23:52] <edi_99> Hi guys. I would really love to learn PHP. Can somebody tell me how to setup the "virtual" server... apache, mysql...?
[23:52] <kewl1> :P
[23:53] <NerveClasp> thnx
[23:53] <jrib> !lamp | edi_99
[23:53] <dbugger> Hi! Im trying to configure stunnel4 to get hotmail in mail notification, but when I try to start stunnel4, i ger this:
[23:53] <jrib> edi_99: not sure what you mean by "virtual"
[23:53] <dbugger> 2009.09.25 00:51:58 LOG3[21084:3083131088]: /etc/stunnel/mail.pem: No such file or directory (2)
[23:53] <dbugger> [Failed: /etc/stunnel/stunnel.conf]
[23:53] <purpzey> If I upgrade my system to jaunty using "Upgrade" from the software sources menu will it keep my application information (e.g. what i have installed, and my personal data) or will it be a clean install?
[23:53] <kewl1> i am on liveCD session cause my grub can´t load. erro 11 popup when i try HDD boot! wt to do???
[23:53] <jrib> purpzey: it will keep everything
[23:53] <dracnoc> purpzey: you should be good
[23:53] <edi_99> jrib: server that is not actually a real server, more like a simulation on my comp
[23:54] <Sun3vi1> is there a channel for backtrack 3
[23:54] <jrib> edi_99: I think you just want to run a real server locally... But if you wish you can install another copy of ubuntu in a virtual machine like virtualbox and install it there
[23:54] <JohnCDI> sun3vi1 #remote-exploit
[23:55] <Sun3vi1> thank you
[23:55] <bbb> jrib: weird... when I clicked "Activate" again in the hardware app, it disabled the wireless
[23:55] <bbb> jrib: should I just file a bug?
[23:55] <afallenhope> Hi I'm having issues with installing modules. I'm trying to compile a wireless driver. and when it installs it goes to /lib/modules/2.6.28.10/extra rather than my kernel's version which is /lib/modules/2.6.28-15-generic any ideas?
[23:55] <purpzey> jrib: Will it go from 8.04 and step upwards or will it try to jump up straight to 9.04?
[23:55] <jrib> bbb: I think you should see if it happens on a clean install first
[23:56] <JohnCDI> afallenhope what wireless device are you using?
[23:56] <bbb> jrib: ok, thanks for helping on this channel. will do that tomorrow. bye.
[23:56] <JohnCDI> brand model
[23:56] <jrib> purpzey: you must go through intermediate releases.  The exception is if you upgrade from one LTS version to another LTS version
[23:56] <afallenhope> JohnCDI, it's ANY module I try to install.. wether it be the rt73 or avld (dummy loopback video driver)
[23:56] <kewl1> how can i recover my last boot grub loader?
[23:57] <edi_99> jrib: no no, the first option seems just fine. I do remember that a few month back I have installed LAMP and I couldn't get to my regular desktop (actually boot into the GUI). Do you maybe know why?
[23:57] <petafile> If I were to install the last alpha of karmic, will the update manager take care of all update through the beta and final releases?
[23:57] <jrib> edi_99: not offhand no (that shouldn't happen)
[23:58] <jrib> petafile: yes, but this question belongs in #ubuntu+1
[23:58] <edi_99> jrib: so if I install LAMP through apt everything will be exactly like now, just with the server installed?
[23:58] <kewl1> after the last upgrade ocurred some issues, my ubuntu can ´t  load anymore...error 11 popup me... Any ideas?
[23:58] <jrib> edi_99: correct
[23:59] <afallenhope> !grub
[23:59] <jrib> kewl1: it's important that you tell people it is grub error 11, not just some error 11.  You might check grub's documentation to see what error 11 means exactly
[23:59] <edi_99> jrib: sweet. Thank you very much
[23:59] <afallenhope> !grub  > kewl1
[23:59] <kewl1> "error 11: unrecognized device string"