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jiohdianyone know how to transfer panel config settings from one machine to another?00:45
jiohdidont all answer at once (^_^)00:47
lancel00tHi, I am using xubuntu 9.04 amd64 and I have one problem: I can not get the slightest sound from my speakers and have adjusted alsamixer and the widget for sound repeatedly. The only thing I can really tell you other than that is that the PCM volume slider will ocassionally turn itself off entirely.03:57
lancel00tthis is a problem for me and any help is appreciated03:58
Balsaqhow do i register my nick name on here?04:43
Balsaq!nick reg04:44
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nick reg04:44
Techieuse nichserv04:44
Techie /msg nickserv help04:44
Techiedo that04:44
Balsaqi'll keep trying...maybe it is not an option?04:44
Balsaqhi techie04:44
Techieheya04:44
Balsaqi heard about that linux OP called puppy today04:44
Techieoh yeah04:45
Balsaqsounds fast04:45
Balsaqwonder whats missin04:45
Techieyes, but it has the potential to become annoying04:45
Balsaqoh thats not me04:45
Techie"/msg nickserv register <password> <email>"04:46
Balsaqthnks trying it04:46
Balsaqpassword email?04:47
Techiethe password you want for your nick04:47
Techieand the email you want the confirmation sent to04:47
Balsaqdo i pit it in the <  >04:47
Techienah04:47
Balsaqjust leave a space between the words04:47
Techieyep04:47
Techieit then send a comfirmation email to the email you provided04:48
Techiethat contains a command that will complete the registration04:48
Balsaqcool04:49
Balsaqkinda a ketchy huh04:50
Techiemy nick isnt registered by me04:50
Balsaqghost?04:50
Techieghosting is when you force a dead connection that is using your nick to change its name so you can change yours to your registered name04:50
Balsaqi use these internet terms almost as thought i know what they mean04:51
Balsaqi heard about it before somewhere but have no i dea how to do it04:52
Techie"/msg nickserv ghost nick password"04:52
Techie"/msg nickserv release nick password"04:52
Techie"/nick nick"04:52
Balsaqi need to bookmark the page with all the /msg language stuff...04:53
Techiehehe, just ask04:54
Techiei know alot of it04:54
Balsaqhow do you do a whisper04:54
Techie"/whisper nick message"04:54
Balsaqoh that was easy04:54
Balsaqwhat is this form of texting called04:55
Techieplain chat i do believe or channel chat04:55
Techiea query window or conversation is one directly between 2 users04:55
Balsaqi heard of it before but i think it has another name..could be wrong04:55
Techieim sure it does have another name04:56
Techieim gonna re install linux tonight04:56
Balsaqwhich one04:56
Techieumm, maybe ubuntu maybe xubuntu04:57
Techiexubuntu would be nice as its 9.0404:57
Techiebut i also know that i have ubuntu 8.10 working with minimal effort04:58
Balsaqwhen i did the 349 u-dates did that put me at 9.04?04:58
Techieor i can go for ubuntu server and sit in a command line all day04:58
Techieno04:58
Techieit just upgraded all your apps to the point before 9.0404:58
Balsaqwhen 810 runs good is it just not worth the risk to go up04:58
Techieif you look in the update thingy there is a 9.04 update button04:59
Balsaqi suppose as you upgrade you take up more HD space...someone told me to stay where i am with an 8mb video card05:00
Techieyeah05:00
Balsaqdell told me i can put a 128mb card in this submarine05:01
Techiei want to try out support for my gfx in 9.04 seeing its a 256mb card05:01
Techie128mb would be a bit overkill05:01
Balsaqwould it have side effects05:02
Techiego for a second hand nvidia card of 32 - 64mb05:02
Balsaqhow cheap can that be done for05:02
Techiehaha, just saw the funniest thing05:02
Techie!work05:02
ubottuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.05:02
Techieumm a second hand card might set you back about $5005:03
Balsaqgeez i think i have seen new ones for that of course you are probably talking about money in you neck of the woods05:04
Techieyeah05:04
Techie50 New Zealand dollars = 36.25 U.S. dollars05:04
Balsaqi hope it is easy to do...supposedly these XPS systems are easy to tool around with05:05
Techieyeah05:05
Techiemost people think modifying a computer is difficult05:05
Balsaqplug in plug out i hope05:05
Techieonce you get around the whole how the hell do i open this box stage05:06
Balsaqand i think your right about 32mb-64 because then i prolly wont need yo up the pwr supply05:06
Techieeverything is easy as everything is shaped to fit a particular slot05:06
Balsaqoh i have been in there...took a big chance a couple years ago and put twice the amount of ram in as my book stated05:07
Techiewhich is how much?05:07
Balsaqwell my book says 128x 3 slots...i did 256x3...so 76805:08
Techiewoah thats pretty high for a system of 400mhz with dedicated video05:08
Balsaqthats when i found out those tech on the phone at dell were nuts05:09
Balsaqthey wanted me to bury this thing....cuase it couldnt run pages on the net05:09
Techiedangit, i saved the password for my box in finland on my computer sometime thinking i would change it soon, and i never got around to changing it05:10
Techienow i cant find it05:10
Balsaqi wonder what would happen if i did 512x305:11
Techiewouldnt run05:11
Techiei would think that your motherboard would support 1gig at max05:11
Balsaqi wont risk it...in eleven years, even new it didnt run like this05:11
Techieif you have the RAM there05:12
Techietry put in one 51205:12
Balsaqand see if it registers05:12
Balsaqdell said it wont hurt it but it will blue screen or something05:13
Balsaqbut they actually dont know05:13
Balsaqwhen i ordered it i made them put in writing that i would get the intel motherboard with a specific chipset and not a no name05:14
Techieit wont blow it up though05:14
Techieso if you have it spare try it05:14
Techieif it doesnt work, put the 256 back in05:14
Balsaqdont havre it though buy if i see it real cheap ill prolly buy iy05:15
Balsaqthjey said i can put a 20 Hd in her05:15
Balsaqdont ned it though05:15
Techieyay got the owner of the box to reset my password05:16
Balsaqi'm surprised it had 512cache back in 199805:16
Balsaqcame with 51cache but only 64ram originally05:17
Balsaq512 i mean05:17
Techiei now have everything i need set up to break free of my schools internet connection05:17
Balsaqso do you mean you arein school or so close you can run on their wireless05:18
Techieim at home at the moment05:19
Techiebut now when im at school i can tunnel all my data properly05:19
crouton1hey guys.. does xubuntu come with a common lisp implementation, gcc, perl and php? i couldn't find a package list on the site.05:20
Balsaqthere is a school about 300 yds from my house05:21
Techieit comes with gcc05:21
Techiedont think php or perl05:21
Techiebut you can install them without any trouble05:21
Techiehowever xubuntu doesnt ship with its kernel source05:22
crouton1ah okay. thanks.05:23
Balsaqis there i book i can read on all this05:23
Techieon which subject?05:23
Balsaqon linux05:23
Techiethere are many05:24
Techiemost of them are outdated05:24
Techiei suggest getting friendly with man pages05:24
Techie!man05:24
ubottuThe "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the  command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/05:24
Balsaqarticles on the net?05:24
Balsaqwow clicked on them and it didnt come up05:25
Balsaqill write em down though05:25
Techiehaha, sudo gobbledegook blah_blah -w -t -f aWkward/ComBinationOf/mixedCase/underscores_strokes/and.dots05:26
Balsaqoh imeant to ask...when i went on ebay today.all the sudden it say i need to dload one of 3 things...Swfdec SWF Playergnome OR adobe flash player OR Gnash SWF i didnt do it and ebay ran fine as usual05:28
Balsaq(joker!)05:28
Techieoh yeah05:28
Techiethats just different flash players05:28
Techiei choose adobe flash as its updated by people who are payed05:29
Balsaqi know but which one...my guess would be gnome because gnome seems to have somthing to do with ubuntu05:29
Techienah05:29
Techiego for the adobe one05:29
Techiepeople are payed to update it05:29
Balsaqso i wonder if they will want a credit card05:29
Techieso whenever the windows version gets and update, so do you05:29
Techienah05:30
Techieits free05:30
Techieit just means it will be the most up to date05:30
Balsaqmaybe that will make youtune run05:30
Balsaqit didnt pop back up again i suppose i can just go to adobe .com05:30
Techieit will05:31
Balsaqgot a zip drive built into this thing and never once used it...what am i missing05:32
Balsaqwhy cant i pull up those links...05:38
Techienot sure, but im gonna swap my linux hard drive out and start installing soon05:38
Balsaqbetter you than me05:38
Techieokay, lemme see what distro's i have05:40
Techiegeexboc 1.0 and 1.2 beta05:40
Techieopensuse 1105:40
Techiepclinuxos 200705:40
Techiedebian 502a05:41
Techie^^ codename lenny05:41
Techieubuntu 8.10 desktop and server05:41
Techieand xbox media center 8.1005:41
Techiewhat to choose, what to choose05:41
Balsaqi amgine you as having some kindo od room ar garage loaded with computer parts, test equipment and software...like some of the labs where i work05:42
Techiehaha, i wish05:42
Techieone computer at the moment05:42
Techieand one set of parts05:42
Techieand miscellanious small hard drives05:42
Techiei also collect OS iso's05:43
Techiesmall netsplit05:43
Techieooh i also have browserlinux which is a variation of puppy05:44
Balsaqi got try that puppy on some old puter05:44
Techieit will get annoying with its single click to open setting05:45
Balsaqits so funny. my in laws go thru computers like crazy...they get em all gunked up with spyware and stuff and throw em out, i told them to start giving them all too me, i think all they ever needed was a clean wipe and linux05:46
Techielol thats good for someone who browses the internet and uses word05:46
sancashttp://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9853/pantallazoth.jpg05:47
Techieooh nice compiz setup sancas05:47
sancas:D thanks05:47
Techiei can even make out what i think is the compiz fusion tray icon05:47
Balsaqso i cant do much elase with my ubuntu 81005:48
Balsaq?05:48
Balsaqelse*05:48
Techieyou can, i cant05:48
Techieim a gamer so im kinda restriced05:48
Balsaqdo you mess aroung with amd05:48
Techienot really, dont have enough cash to get a new cpu to mess around with05:49
=== freego is now known as forces
Techieatm im running a Celeron D05:49
Sysiceleron! i have 205:50
Techieceleron D05:50
Techiedifferent to a regular celeron05:50
Balsaqid take a p4 or a d any day if i can get a deal05:51
Sysii'm not sure about this, but i guess in eeepc it was celeron m on something05:51
Techieyours is a plain singles core05:51
Techiemin is a hyperthreaded core05:51
Sysiyup05:51
Balsaqis it the D that identifies that05:52
Techieyep05:52
Sysibut i have e5200 for serious work :)05:52
Techiebel can you hold a link for me while i set up?05:53
Sysioh, seems that i'll miss the bus if i don't go now, have a nice day05:53
Techiecya Sysi05:53
Balsaqbrb05:53
Techiesw00t, time to install05:54
Techieill connect from my live USB if i can05:55
=== forces is now known as freego
Balsaqback06:04
Techiestill on windows, suse wouldnt usb boot06:07
BalsaqWINDOWS06:08
Techieyes, i run windows06:08
Balsaqwhich one06:08
Techiexp pro06:09
Balsaqyeah i use it all day at work06:09
Balsaqthose xp discs that are made only for dell are cheap o nebay 20-25 dollars06:10
Techiebrb, my storage drive isnt loading... gonna check the bios06:10
Balsaq10-406:11
Techiewelcome back danopia06:18
Techieokay now to install ubuntu 8.1006:24
Balsaqyur hummin along with this project!06:28
Balsaqtechie/i just checked an it say my monitor resolution is 1600x1200? didn't think this ole 17 could do that?06:32
Balsaqwould this old thing run better if i messed with the resoulution?06:33
Techie1what res were you thinking about?06:33
Balsaqdunno06:33
Balsaqbut on windows i dont seem to remember an 11 year old monitor being able to do 1600x120006:34
Balsaqwhich is what ubuntu says i am at06:34
Techie1haha06:34
Techie1yeah right06:34
Techie1you should be running at 1024x76806:35
Techie1on that sort of hardware06:35
Balsaqi think it used to be set at 1280x800 or something06:35
Balsaqshould i get out the manual06:35
Balsaqcause it loads ebay pages kinda slow 93-4 seconds)06:35
Balsaq3-4 seconds06:35
Techie1thats not bad06:36
Balsaqi know like i say barnd new  when w98 was new it took that long or longer06:36
Balsaqbut does relotution setting effect speed at all06:37
Techie1brb going to #ubuntu to ask a question06:38
Balsaqyup06:38
Techie1nope it doesnt affect speed unless your running  a 3d app06:38
Balsaqoh so it will just get as close as it can to that 1600x1200 then huh06:38
Techie1yeah06:39
Techie1however if you go too large your 2d apps may start to slow down06:39
Balsaqi am surprised i can run around on ebay and do this at the same time06:40
Techie1hehe06:40
Balsaqon this old dog06:40
Techie1well your not exactly running low on RAM06:40
Balsaqthats for sure06:41
Balsaqmost of those bus puter i told you about are only 512-1g ram06:41
Balsaqthe ones they are dumping that is06:41
Techie1i presume that would be atleast DDR333 though06:42
Techie1comared to pc13306:42
Balsaqdunno06:42
Techie1compared*06:42
Balsaqill look in the ones i use tomorrow cause the ones they are dumping look the same06:43
Techie1ooh yay06:43
=== Techie1 is now known as Techie
Techieim me again!!!06:44
Balsaqhow come yur always in and out like that06:44
Balsaqis that part of the tunnel deal06:45
Techiemy main reason is i crash my X server quite frequently06:45
Balsaqyou run thru a server06:46
Techieno06:47
Techiethe X server is the graphical display06:47
Techiewithout it yoou would be stuck at a command line06:47
Balsaqverizon dsl told me they have a protective firewall on me and it has various settings...i wonder if they open it up if this dell will run faster? do i need the wall with ubuntu06:48
Techiethe dell wont run faster, the internet may though06:48
Techie!x06:49
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution06:49
Balsaqdidnt open again...writing it down, the other night most of the ones you sent opened?06:50
Balsaqbut i saw the res setting thingunder "system' if that is what you mean06:50
Techieyep thats it06:51
Balsaqsystem, preference, screen resolution....06:51
Techiethats the one06:51
Balsaqso should i put it on a realistic number?06:51
Techieyeah06:51
Techiebrb, gonna boot into buntu06:52
Balsaqwhen it was new before i messed with it it was actuaslly set at 800x600 i think06:52
Balsaqmessed everything up now06:55
Balsaqput tit back but it wont change back uh oh06:55
Balsaqman that really messed me up06:59
Balsaqi guess this old tanker want that high res stuff and nothing else...whew07:00
Balsaqtechie i thought i messed up my computer07:12
techiebrb, gotta get support on setting up dual screen07:13
Balsaqthat other es made the screen look horrible then i couldnt get it back until i turned it off and back on again07:13
Balsaqi gues ubuntu knows where it wants my stuff set?07:14
techieprolly07:14
Balsaqlook fabulous like this but i didnt think i was set up for that res07:15
Balsaqbut the printed words on my browser ..."applications, places, system" that stuff is in small print but clear07:15
techie!dual head07:18
ubottuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama07:18
Balsaqhhh07:21
Balsaqmust log in to verify my nick as part of the nick reg....hmmm log in, i am logged in arent i?07:23
techie"/msg nickserv identify password"07:23
techie!xinerama07:24
ubottuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead07:24
Balsaqhow do i log in techie, wont let me finish reistering my nick until then arent i logged in now?07:25
techiehuh07:25
techieyou copied and pasted the command from the email?07:26
Balsaqi did the reg thing then i sent me an email and told me how to finish it...so i did, in the process it says i need to log in to finish registering my nick07:26
techiethen "msg nickserv identify password"07:27
Balsaqthought i was logged in now...just to get in here (yes did that stuff)07:27
Balsaqyou do the nick serv stuff, then they email you a password, then you come back here and do a final step...but it says i need to log in first?07:29
techieto login you need to identify07:29
Balsaq?07:29
Balsaqyeah i do the nick serv indentify thing07:30
Balsaqyou mean to get in here or to do the nick register thing?07:30
Balsaqahhh..no matter, nobody want the nick Balsaq!07:31
Balsaqi think it is because of the bizarre way i get inhere in the 1st place07:32
techiebrb gonna restart X07:35
Balsaq10-4 boss07:36
Balsaqtrying edubuntu for a bit...07:44
techie!dualhead07:49
ubottuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama07:49
techie!xuinerama07:50
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about xuinerama07:50
techie!xinerama07:50
ubottuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead07:50
techiebrb07:53
techie!xinerama07:57
ubottuxinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead07:57
tehC0unthello08:47
Balsaqwhy does it let me come stright to xubuntu without going thru rhe proxy? if i try to go to ubuntu i always have to go thru the prxy?08:55
Balsaqstraight*08:55
Balsaqwhere have you bee techie?09:24
techietrying to figure out my graphics issues09:24
techiei think i might have to re install ubuntu09:25
Balsaqagain thought you just did it09:25
Balsaqhope it doesnt take you as long as it took me...09:26
techieit doesnt09:28
Balsaqi think you said 45 minutes once...man those cel D's must be great09:29
techieits more of the 3ghz + 1.5gig RAM09:30
techieand bootable usb09:30
Balsaq3g...did you overclock it?09:30
techieyeah09:31
techieits got a 10% oc09:31
Balsaqman that thing must be smokin fast09:31
techie2.8 stock09:31
Balsaqcan i clock my old dell 40009:31
techiewould advise against it09:31
techieolder cpu's werent designed to have their clocks changed09:32
techiedoing so would probably overheat and kill it09:32
Balsaqbut i have read tha the one i have is really the same as the 450 and 50009:32
Balsaq440bx intel chipset09:33
techieyeah, once you understand how they brand CPU's you will understand why you dont want to overclock old cores09:33
techie!welcome Aristad09:34
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about welcome Aristad09:34
techie!welcome | Aristad09:34
ubottuAristad: Hello and welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions or help others. If you'd like to chit-chat, please visit #xubuntu-offtopic and for developer discussion, see #xubuntu-devel :)09:34
techieill be back in the live USB09:35
Techieokay09:41
Techiethe local time is 8:40 and im starting the install09:41
Balsaqcool lets so how fats that D can run09:41
Techieive already given it all the info it needs09:44
Techienow its doing the automated processes09:44
Techieand ontop of its regular duties its gotta remove the old install09:45
Techieso this will be a longer install09:45
Techieits already at 44%09:48
Balsaqthats a gamer for u09:48
Techielol09:49
Techiethats a nice second hand setup09:49
Techiea gamer would go faster09:49
Techiei could do a real gamer within about 20 minutes09:49
Techiebut i would definitely have to use a live usb09:49
Techiea cd would just go too slow09:50
Balsaqmore fun to play around makin somethin from almost nuthin than just buying one of those new ones though09:50
Techiei agree with you there bal09:50
Balsaqill buy a new one when the prices bottom out but they arent built like my old dell09:50
Techiesome are09:51
Techiemy advice for when you do, dont get a dell... they dont make very good machines anymore09:51
Balsaqif they drop that 430 gamer i showed down another 100 bucks ill grab it09:51
Balsaqi heard that too its too bad09:52
Techiethe gamer should be alright, but anything they advertise on tv is a no go09:52
Balsaqeven the case fell like aluminum foil really thin09:52
Techie80%09:53
Balsaqdid you figure out the graphics problem09:53
Techienope09:54
Techiei decided to just go with the proprietary driver09:54
Balsaqyou mean the standard onboard graphins09:54
Techietoo much work getting dual head to work in ubuntu when it complains about every graphics customisation you make09:54
Techieno, with ATI theres 2 sets of drivers09:54
Cyber_Akuma-Laptug, ati09:55
Balsaqahhhh09:55
Cyber_Akuma-Laptthats caused me nothing but headaches09:55
Cyber_Akuma-Laptin both linux AND windows09:55
Techietheres the open source drivers which are developed by the OS community09:55
Techieand the proprietary drivers which are closed source and maintained by ATI09:55
TechieCyber_Akuma-Lapt: ATI is slowly getting better in linux, SLOOOOOWLLY09:55
Cyber_Akuma-Laptati no longer supports my card in 9.04 and anove >.<09:56
TechieCyber_Akuma-Lapt: as for in windows, i have no problem09:56
Cyber_Akuma-Laptabove*09:56
Balsaqoften wondered, if you have a graphic card does that mean you dont have a onboard graphic built on the motherboard?09:56
Techiewhats your card?09:56
Cyber_Akuma-LaptRadeon X120009:56
Cyber_Akuma-Laptits a laptop card09:56
Techieno bal09:56
Balsaqmine is an ati 8mb xpert from199809:56
Techieits more of an aftermarket mod09:56
Techie95%09:57
TechieCyber_Akuma-Lapt: i have a 9600XT09:57
Cyber_Akuma-Laptmy desktop has a 9600pro09:57
Cyber_Akuma-Lapthavent tried linux on that09:57
Cyber_Akuma-Laptbut im planning to install xubuntu on it09:57
Techiehehe, my cards brother09:57
Cyber_Akuma-Laptthats why im here actually09:57
Techieyou use dual head on that box?09:58
Cyber_Akuma-LaptI wanted to know what antivirus apps other than clamxv i could use in ubuntu to scan my windows partitions for windows viruses09:58
Cyber_Akuma-Laptdual head?09:58
Techie2 screens09:58
Cyber_Akuma-Laptnope09:58
Cyber_Akuma-Laptjust got a new monitor09:58
Cyber_Akuma-Laptold crt got so bad I couldent evne tell the difference between M and N anymore09:58
Techieyou could prolly use the open source drivers then09:58
Cyber_Akuma-Laptdosent mater to meif they are closed or open, propitery or not, just want the ones that would run better09:59
Cyber_Akuma-Laptand cause the least problems09:59
Techiewell closed will run nicer but you dont have compatability so video playback is slightly hindered09:59
Techie99%09:59
Cyber_Akuma-Laptcompatibility?10:00
Techiedone10:00
Cyber_Akuma-Laptyou mean some apps cant access them10:00
Cyber_Akuma-Lapt?10:00
Techiethats 20 minutes10:00
Techiei meant to say xv compatability10:00
Cyber_Akuma-Lapt?10:00
Balsaqbeetr put dual fans on that thing or she'll blow up techie10:00
Cyber_Akuma-Laptclamxv?10:00
Techieno, xv the video output10:01
Techielike opengl10:01
Cyber_Akuma-Lapthavent heard ofxv before10:01
Cyber_Akuma-Lapt.... seriously? they dont support opengl?10:01
Techiethey do10:01
Techiei was using it to explain what xv was10:01
Cyber_Akuma-LaptI am afraid I still dont get what xv is10:02
Techiehrmm10:02
Techie!xv10:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about xv10:02
Techie!xvidix10:02
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about xvidix10:02
Cyber_Akuma-Laptregardless, I am going to be installing it as a recovery os10:02
Techieyeah10:02
Cyber_Akuma-Laptso playinmg 3d games or whatever isnt going to be a prority10:02
Techiexv is simply put a way of drawing a video onscreen10:03
Cyber_Akuma-Laptthis is why I choe xubuntu over ubuntu10:03
Cyber_Akuma-Laptless space to install and works better on older systems10:03
Cyber_Akuma-Laptits a mere pentium 310:03
Techielol10:03
Cyber_Akuma-LaptI just want to know what antivirus apps there are avalaible ogher than clamxv10:03
Techiei used to have a p3, it was a better workhorse than this celeron D10:03
Cyber_Akuma-Laptsinve a livecd I used once had 5 of them on it10:03
Cyber_Akuma-Laptpentium 3 > celeron10:04
Cyber_Akuma-Lapteven if its a higher clock speed10:04
Cyber_Akuma-Lapt:)10:04
Techiep3 > EVERYTHING10:04
Cyber_Akuma-Lapt...10:04
Cyber_Akuma-Laptexcept p4. core 2, core 2 duo, i5, i7.....10:04
Techienope10:04
Cyber_Akuma-Laptspeaking of p310:04
Techiei can load a p3 up with a greater load than i can a core2 clock speed wise10:05
Cyber_Akuma-LaptI find it funny that the xbox1 used a p3 as its cpu, but the 360 has a dual core ppc based cpu10:05
Cyber_Akuma-Laptespecially sinc eapple abandoned the ppc10:05
Cyber_Akuma-LaptXD10:05
Techieyeah, teh original xbox was extremely efficient10:05
Cyber_Akuma-Lapterr10:05
Cyber_Akuma-Lapttriple core i mean10:05
Cyber_Akuma-Laptnot duel10:05
Techiethey also abandoned it at the same time as MS started using it10:05
Cyber_Akuma-Laptat least its not a cell10:06
Techiehowever this did not make modding the 360 any easier10:06
Cyber_Akuma-LaptX10:06
Cyber_Akuma-LaptXD10:06
Techielol10:06
Techieanyway, ill brb10:06
Cyber_Akuma-Laptheh, k10:06
Techiegotta boot my HDD10:06
Cyber_Akuma-Laptso uhh.... anybody have an advice10:06
Cyber_Akuma-Lapton te antivirus apps10:06
techiewelcome back10:15
techieyou there bal?10:15
techieyou there bal?10:20
Balsaqyeah was in puppy10:35
boscopI'm running xfce on ubuntu. when I boot, I have no panels, even if I unchecked "save session" at the previous logout.10:36
Sysialt+f2 and type there "xfce4-panel"10:37
boscopyes, but it's annoying to do this everytime10:38
Sysiit should work when you do it once and then save session10:38
boscopah10:39
TheSheepSysi: try removing ~/.cache/sessions10:41
Sysii don't have any problems :D10:41
Sysibut i still did that little time ago to get compiz working :P10:42
mnemochi, where are the prefered applications choices stored?11:00
raevolhey guys, i have a problem with nm-applet not correctly handling wpa2 passwords and now allowing me to connect11:16
raevoli can't seem to find who is responsible for nm-applet, could someone point me in their direction? this bug has existed for a while and is all over the internet with no solution11:16
raevolnot* allowing me to connect11:16
mnemocand another question, how do I make xubuntu _save_ the volume i set in alsamixer? it always start muted11:32
TheSheep!bugs | raevol11:45
ubotturaevol: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » If that fails, you can report bugs manually at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug - Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots11:45
raevolTheSheep: it seems it's a driver issue, and all the launchpad bug reports filed for this exact bug have been ifnored11:46
raevolno point in me filing another one11:47
raevolignored*11:47
boscopI want to have mouse gestures in konqueror, but I don't have kde control center. is there a way to enable them without installing it?12:53
TheSheepboscop: I'd ask on #kubuntu13:09
balsaqshould i install a ccleaner like file hippo with ubuntu or is there something already built into the OP (defrag, disc cleaner etc...)13:18
Sysiwhere do you think you need it?13:19
balsaqdon't know that i do...hopefully i don't13:20
balsaqwhen i leave ff i just clean the browser histiry and all cookies everytime13:20
Sysiit just makes browsing slower13:21
balsaqwhat does those ccleaners or clearing the browser everytime you are done with it?13:21
Sysiremowes coocies etc an you need to download them again everytime13:22
Sysi*cookies13:22
balsaqso did you also mean that ubuntu doesn't need a ccleaner an defrag and all that jazz?13:24
balsaqi am just coming off windows...13:24
Xyrnaesbalsaq: On Linux you don't need to defrag13:24
balsaqi was hoping you would say that13:24
balsaqi am no computer wizz i'll be right up front...13:25
Sysiif you install and remove lots of sofware apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean may be good13:25
balsaqbeen off of windows for 2 days...this runs ubuntu only and i have installed nothing13:26
Sysijust use it :P13:26
balsaqhad a funny feeling it would be like that13:27
balsaqnext...found my error console (8.10), i had an error-error in pursing value for property text align declaration dropped13:28
balsaqwhat the heck is that?13:28
balsaqdoesn't seem to add up to anyhting as far as i can tell, but it kinda gave me that weird windows feeling in my bellt13:29
balsaqbelly*13:29
balsaq(Sysi,Xyarnaes)if i had to guess, i think the errors maybe have something to do with me shutting down the computer before ubuntu told me it was shutting down13:36
Sysiyou dont need to shut it manually13:38
Sysion power button13:38
Sysiat least i think that propably isn't that wise to do13:39
balsaqi didn't know ubuntu was going to shut down, so when o clicked on the icon in the upper rt of the screen it just went tothe black ubuntu screen and kinda hung there so after a minute or so i hit the power button on my computer13:39
balsaqdid that twice then someone in here told me not to do that...let ubuntu shut down, let it take a few minutes if need be13:40
Sysiwell, i'd say it isn't broken 'cause of that, even if it gives some errors13:40
balsaqso iwill do it correctly now, well the errors are always the exact same statement as iwrote it, if i do i good shut down and they dont come back i will figure i caused it13:41
balsaqi cleared the errors and looked a minute or so ago and none were there13:42
balsaqis running perfect as far as i know, real snappy unless i go to ebay, then it takes 4 seconds to load a big graphic page13:43
balsaqso when ubuntu is ready for me to shut it down does the screen say anythinglike ...safe to shut dow?13:45
balsaqnow*13:45
balsaqor does it just shut down on its own after i initiate it13:46
likemindeadJust ran updates for Xubuntu 9.10 and network-manager won't start. :-(15:32
likemindeadHow might I install Wicd when my network-manager is dead? :-\15:42
Pres-GasWB cody-somerville!  ;)15:46
Pres-GasBeen awhile since we saw you last15:46
cody-somervilleoh?15:48
cody-somervilleI was here just a few minutes ago :P15:48
Pres-GasYour connection was reset by peer...I was just kiddin' around.  Too quiet for me.15:49
likemindeadHowsabout helping me out, Pres-Gas? ;)15:50
Pres-Gaslikemindead, I would ask you how Network Manager is not working?15:51
Pres-GasBut you are right, likemindead, you did make some noise and I should have paid attention.15:51
likemindeadIt was returning a bunch of missing libblahblahblah errors.15:51
* Pres-Gas prostrates self before likemindead15:51
* likemindead absolves Pres-Gas and thanks him for helping. :)15:52
Pres-GasSo, was this machine a clean install of 9.10, likemindead?15:52
likemindeadIt's kind of a moot point... I sort of uninstalled network-manager... :-\15:52
likemindeadYes, it's a fresh install of Xubuntu 9.10 Alpha 6.15:52
likemindeadJust wondering how I can get online to install Wicd (without having network-manager).15:53
likemindeadI suppose I could just get a .deb for Wicd and copy it via USB drive, eh?15:53
Pres-GasYeah, now that Network Manager is off the machine...you would need to go manually or install things with the usb drive15:54
likemindeadHow difficult is a simple, manual connection?15:55
likemindeadIt'd be ethernet, not wireless.15:55
likemindeadI've been trying Google for "manual network connection ubuntu" etc.15:56
Pres-GasAhhh, better...'cos I would have been at a loss with wireless...15:56
likemindeadYeah, I want to keep it simple.15:56
Pres-Gaslikemindead: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html16:00
likemindeadThanks, Pres-Gas. I'll check it out.16:15
Pres-GasYeah, that should get you started, likemindead16:16
likemindead:D16:16
Pres-GasLOL...well at least you will know the files involved ;)16:17
* likemindead is away: :::poot:::16:19
n2diyI'm playing around on my SOHO LAN, and I'm trying to use gFTP to move some files around, but I'm getting connection refused messages. Do I need to install an FTP server on the boxes?18:09
* likemindead is back (gone 01:55:03)18:14
Pres-Gaslikemindead, what is the scoop with your network?18:18
likemindeadHaven't had time to pull my laptop out. Busy, busy, busy... :-\18:18
Pres-Gasn2diy, any machine that you wish to connect to you will have to put an FTP service on it.  Even though you are on a LAN, I would still look into sftp18:19
Pres-Gasubottu, sshd18:20
ubottuSSH is the Secure SHell protocol, sshd is the server (or daemon) of SSH. For setting up the SSH server, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html . Advanced SSH uses: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Advanced . For SSH client information, see !ssh . Related: !scp (Secure CoPy)18:20
n2diyPres-Gas: ok, thanks.18:20
Pres-Gas!ftpd18:21
ubottuFTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd, MuddleFTPd, wzdftpd - Graphical front-ends: PureAdmin, GProftpd (for GNOME), KcmPureftpd (for !KDE) - See also !FTP18:21
Pres-GasThanks, ubottu!18:22
likemindeadlulz...18:25
floating1anyone give free ssh accounts on their machines ?18:30
likemindead... ?18:30
floating1i would like to run weechat through screen18:30
floating1but my current screen at sun solaris.. i cant install it here18:31
floating1or i would like to give weechat a try, .. for a change, and maybe it is more convenient than irssi anyway18:31
Pres-GasYou would need to put some work in on it, but you could look here: http://wiki.cluenet.org/Main_Page18:35
Pres-GasThat is shell access, floating118:35
The_KernelHi, what's a good PPTP client app?18:36
likemindeadI just ran "sudo dhclient eth0" & then "sudo apt-get install wicd" Pres-Gas and it looks like it's working.18:47
* likemindead crosses fingers.18:47
Pres-Gasw00t w00t!18:48
likemindeadHuzzah! I'm back online in Xubuntu 9.10 thanks to Wicd! :)18:53
howellis there a better applet for a command line text box than verve?19:31
neozenhowell: I don't think so19:37
neozenbeen half tempted to write some xfce panel applets though19:37
neozenhowell: what should be there?19:37
neozenhowell: ie... what do you expect should be there?19:37
howellit doesn't recognize any aliases from .bashrc19:37
neozen...interesting19:38
neozenwonder what shell its using to run things19:38
neozenor if its using a shell @ all19:38
howelli doubt it19:38
howellit doesnt even autocomplete19:38
howellit says it supports it, but i don't see it19:38
The_Kernel!pptp19:39
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pptp19:39
The_Kernel!info pptp19:39
ubottuPackage pptp does not exist in jaunty19:39
howellverve works great for running installed programs or simple one liners19:39
howellbut it would be nice if it could drop down and show a few more lines if you wanted19:40
howellor while you were using it19:40
Pres-Gaslikemindead, just scrolled up.  That is great...now to figure out why NM just died on you.19:40
neozenhowell: perhaps something other then a panel applet would be better for your use case19:41
neozenever looked into tilda?19:41
howellno, i'll look at it19:42
neozen!tilda19:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tilda19:42
neozen...bah19:42
howell!tilda19:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about tilda19:42
neozenhowell: http://tilda.sourceforge.net19:42
howelli think i can just use apt19:43
neozenhowell: its in the ubuntu repositories19:43
neozenhowell: universe I think19:43
neozenhowell: shouldn't require much beyond what xfce itself requires19:43
neozenhowell: basically its a terminal that rolls down onto screen w/ a keyboard shortcut.... you do some stuff in it.... then whack the shortcut and it goes away again19:44
howellthats neat19:45
neozenI thought so19:45
likemindeadWell, it's still Alpha software, Pres-Gas.19:45
neozenI tend to use it for long running processes I periodically want to keep an eye on....  but its good for occasional terminal use too19:46
Pres-GasIndeed, likemindead, indeed.  I am attempting to wait for Beta...I would love to jump in early...but not enough machines19:46
neozenhowell: and you can start many of them... have each one roll from diff places etc...19:47
likemindeadI'm actually removing Wicd and installing network-manager just for kicks.19:47
likemindead(And now that I know how to connect via command line without either of them.)19:47
neozenlikemindead: this... is good19:48
neozenlikemindead: always useful in case network manager is borking up for some reason19:48
neozenlikemindead: or you lack gui access on some system19:48
howelli do keep a binding for terminal: <alt>+~19:48
neozenhowell: as do I .... cntrl+esc ..... a carryover from my windows days... when that opened the start menu19:49
howelldo you know how to bind the super key to open the menu?19:50
neozenhowell: nope...19:50
neozenhowell: there's probably a way though19:50
howelli dont think its really possible the way everything works as is19:50
howelli can right click the desktop anyway19:50
neozenhowell: I tend to use xbindkeys instead of the xfce keybinding thing.... tends to capture more keystrokes19:50
neozenhowell: an example would be the "access ibm" key on this thinkpad19:51
neozenhowell: never could get that working with the xfce keybinder19:51
howelldoes that just replace the xfce or is it in addition to?19:52
neozenhowell: a warning about tilda though.... you'll have to break yourself of the habit of typing exit when you're done in it19:52
howellyea, i found out that it closes it19:52
neozenhowell: doesn't close tilda though... just kills the shell inside it...... then you have to restart tilda19:53
neozenhowell: appearance of it is configurable19:53
neozenhowell: and is just a good all-around term (when you only occasionally have one on-screen)19:54
neozenhowell: enjoy19:55
neozenhowell: and sry I didn't actually help w/ your verve issue19:55
neozenhowell: plus.. for running programs... can always hit alt+f2 and type your program in there.... that _should_ use shell aliases19:55
neozenhowell: not sure though19:55
neozentime get back to work19:57
howelli'm in class19:59
likemindeadVerily, huzzah! Network Manager is working again! :D20:17
Pres-GasI do wonder what happened previously, likemindead.20:20
likemindeadI ran updates and then some lib-something was missing and network-manager wouldn't start.20:22
Pres-Gaslikemindead, oh, yeah.  I just installed alpha 6 on a vm and it already has 461 updates20:39
likemindeadWhee!20:48
Kandahello ! I'm have no sound (it is really really weak on headphones) on a very old toshiba s1800-100 laptop with xubuntu 8.04 (that I chose because it only has 128MB of RAM). ALSA and audio apps are happy, the snd-ali5451 module and its snd-* friends are loaded. I'm using linux since 1995 but I'm stuck. Could someone help ? Thanks !21:14
likemindeadHmm... I'm not very good with audio issues.21:15
likemindeadI'd try a Xubuntu 9.04 Live CD and see if a newer version fixes it.21:15
Kandalikemindead: I have tried 8.10 but it was not better21:16
likemindeadLame.21:16
likemindeadMaybe try PulseAudio?21:17
likemindeadOr OSS?21:17
likemindeadInstead of ALSA.21:17
Kandalikemindead: due to the low mem, I can only use an alternate install. Also X is tricky and wouldn't startup by default but I found an xorg.conf that's ok on the net21:17
Kandalikemindead: don't pulseaudio use alsa ?21:17
likemindeadPossible help at http://michaelminn.com/linux/toshiba1800/ ?21:19
KandaI googled like a mad and I've read this page ;) thx21:20
likemindeadHa...21:20
likemindeadSorry. :-(21:20
Kandano prob. this page gave me the xorg.conf at least !21:21
Kandalikemindead: any hint about an ubuntu sound guru I could talk to on irc ?21:22
Kandalikemindead: are there 4front oss modules distributed by canonical's repos ?21:26
likemindeadOver my head, Kanda, sorry.21:29
Kandalikemindead: thanks for your help anyway21:29
likemindeadTry #ubuntu -- there's more folks in there.21:30
Kandaok, bye21:30
tehC0unthello21:36
likemindeadAhoy!21:38
tehC0unthows it going21:38
likemindeadRainy. :-)21:39
tehC0untyou enjoy the rain?21:43
tehC0unthello22:04
* likemindead waves.22:04
tehC0untare you a xubuntu expert?22:05
likemindeadNot an expert, I don't think.22:05
tehC0unthaha do you think you could help me with a problem?22:05
likemindeadWhat's up?22:05
tehC0untwell22:06
tehC0unti just installed a new pci adapter22:06
tehC0untand for whatever reason xubuntu does not recognize it22:06
tehC0unti suppose i need to install the drivers22:06
tehC0untbut i dont have a lot of experience doing that on linux im pretty new22:06
likemindeadPCI adapter? What are you using it for?22:07
tehC0untethernet22:07
likemindeadHmm. I've never seen a Linux box not load a PCI ethernet card.22:07
likemindeadCan you try it in another slot?22:07
tehC0untyeah i could do that22:07
tehC0unti have a feeling it might be the slot because22:08
tehC0untmy old card was in there22:08
tehC0untand it made the connection22:08
tehC0untbut could not connect to the internet22:08
tehC0untlike it recognized it but wouldnt link up22:08
likemindeadYeah. Just ethernet card, not wireless, right?22:09
tehC0untyes22:09
likemindeadYeah. Should work out of the box.22:09
tehC0untwhatabout the drivers?22:11
tehC0untthey should just be in the kernel?22:11
likemindeadYes.22:12
tehC0untmy old card was pretty dusty22:13
tehC0untdo you think that would affect it at all22:13
tehC0untin terms of working22:13
likemindeadPossible.22:13
likemindeadYou can gently clean the contacts off and try it again. Try more than one slot.22:13
tehC0unti will porb give that a try22:15
tehC0untif i can ever get these frickin expansion guards off22:15
likemindeadlamerz22:19
likemindeadYeah. I really bet it's a hardware issue.22:19
tehC0untis it a big deal if ic ant get one of the bay covers back on22:29
tehC0untanyone around?23:47

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