[00:45] anyone know how to transfer panel config settings from one machine to another? [00:47] dont all answer at once (^_^) [03:57] Hi, I am using xubuntu 9.04 amd64 and I have one problem: I can not get the slightest sound from my speakers and have adjusted alsamixer and the widget for sound repeatedly. The only thing I can really tell you other than that is that the PCM volume slider will ocassionally turn itself off entirely. [03:58] this is a problem for me and any help is appreciated [04:43] how do i register my nick name on here? [04:44] !nick reg [04:44] Sorry, I don't know anything about nick reg [04:44] use nichserv [04:44] /msg nickserv help [04:44] do that [04:44] i'll keep trying...maybe it is not an option? [04:44] hi techie [04:44] heya [04:44] i heard about that linux OP called puppy today [04:45] oh yeah [04:45] sounds fast [04:45] wonder whats missin [04:45] yes, but it has the potential to become annoying [04:45] oh thats not me [04:46] "/msg nickserv register " [04:46] thnks trying it [04:47] password email? [04:47] the password you want for your nick [04:47] and the email you want the confirmation sent to [04:47] do i pit it in the < > [04:47] nah [04:47] just leave a space between the words [04:47] yep [04:48] it then send a comfirmation email to the email you provided [04:48] that contains a command that will complete the registration [04:49] cool [04:50] kinda a ketchy huh [04:50] my nick isnt registered by me [04:50] ghost? [04:50] ghosting is when you force a dead connection that is using your nick to change its name so you can change yours to your registered name [04:51] i use these internet terms almost as thought i know what they mean [04:52] i heard about it before somewhere but have no i dea how to do it [04:52] "/msg nickserv ghost nick password" [04:52] "/msg nickserv release nick password" [04:52] "/nick nick" [04:53] i need to bookmark the page with all the /msg language stuff... [04:54] hehe, just ask [04:54] i know alot of it [04:54] how do you do a whisper [04:54] "/whisper nick message" [04:54] oh that was easy [04:55] what is this form of texting called [04:55] plain chat i do believe or channel chat [04:55] a query window or conversation is one directly between 2 users [04:55] i heard of it before but i think it has another name..could be wrong [04:56] im sure it does have another name [04:56] im gonna re install linux tonight [04:56] which one [04:57] umm, maybe ubuntu maybe xubuntu [04:57] xubuntu would be nice as its 9.04 [04:58] but i also know that i have ubuntu 8.10 working with minimal effort [04:58] when i did the 349 u-dates did that put me at 9.04? [04:58] or i can go for ubuntu server and sit in a command line all day [04:58] no [04:58] it just upgraded all your apps to the point before 9.04 [04:58] when 810 runs good is it just not worth the risk to go up [04:59] if you look in the update thingy there is a 9.04 update button [05:00] i suppose as you upgrade you take up more HD space...someone told me to stay where i am with an 8mb video card [05:00] yeah [05:01] dell told me i can put a 128mb card in this submarine [05:01] i want to try out support for my gfx in 9.04 seeing its a 256mb card [05:01] 128mb would be a bit overkill [05:02] would it have side effects [05:02] go for a second hand nvidia card of 32 - 64mb [05:02] how cheap can that be done for [05:02] haha, just saw the funniest thing [05:02] !work [05:02] Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. [05:03] umm a second hand card might set you back about $50 [05:04] geez i think i have seen new ones for that of course you are probably talking about money in you neck of the woods [05:04] yeah [05:04] 50 New Zealand dollars = 36.25 U.S. dollars [05:05] i hope it is easy to do...supposedly these XPS systems are easy to tool around with [05:05] yeah [05:05] most people think modifying a computer is difficult [05:05] plug in plug out i hope [05:06] once you get around the whole how the hell do i open this box stage [05:06] and i think your right about 32mb-64 because then i prolly wont need yo up the pwr supply [05:06] everything is easy as everything is shaped to fit a particular slot [05:07] oh i have been in there...took a big chance a couple years ago and put twice the amount of ram in as my book stated [05:07] which is how much? [05:08] well my book says 128x 3 slots...i did 256x3...so 768 [05:08] woah thats pretty high for a system of 400mhz with dedicated video [05:09] thats when i found out those tech on the phone at dell were nuts [05:09] they wanted me to bury this thing....cuase it couldnt run pages on the net [05:10] dangit, i saved the password for my box in finland on my computer sometime thinking i would change it soon, and i never got around to changing it [05:10] now i cant find it [05:11] i wonder what would happen if i did 512x3 [05:11] wouldnt run [05:11] i would think that your motherboard would support 1gig at max [05:11] i wont risk it...in eleven years, even new it didnt run like this [05:12] if you have the RAM there [05:12] try put in one 512 [05:12] and see if it registers [05:13] dell said it wont hurt it but it will blue screen or something [05:13] but they actually dont know [05:14] when i ordered it i made them put in writing that i would get the intel motherboard with a specific chipset and not a no name [05:14] it wont blow it up though [05:14] so if you have it spare try it [05:14] if it doesnt work, put the 256 back in [05:15] dont havre it though buy if i see it real cheap ill prolly buy iy [05:15] thjey said i can put a 20 Hd in her [05:15] dont ned it though [05:16] yay got the owner of the box to reset my password [05:16] i'm surprised it had 512cache back in 1998 [05:17] came with 51cache but only 64ram originally [05:17] 512 i mean [05:17] i now have everything i need set up to break free of my schools internet connection [05:18] so do you mean you arein school or so close you can run on their wireless [05:19] im at home at the moment [05:19] but now when im at school i can tunnel all my data properly [05:20] hey guys.. does xubuntu come with a common lisp implementation, gcc, perl and php? i couldn't find a package list on the site. [05:21] there is a school about 300 yds from my house [05:21] it comes with gcc [05:21] dont think php or perl [05:21] but you can install them without any trouble [05:22] however xubuntu doesnt ship with its kernel source [05:23] ah okay. thanks. [05:23] is there i book i can read on all this [05:23] on which subject? [05:23] on linux [05:24] there are many [05:24] most of them are outdated [05:24] i suggest getting friendly with man pages [05:24] !man [05:24] The "man" command brings up the Linux manual pages for the command you're interested in. Try "man intro" at the command line, or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal | Manpages online: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/ [05:24] articles on the net? [05:25] wow clicked on them and it didnt come up [05:25] ill write em down though [05:26] haha, sudo gobbledegook blah_blah -w -t -f aWkward/ComBinationOf/mixedCase/underscores_strokes/and.dots [05:28] oh imeant to ask...when i went on ebay today.all the sudden it say i need to dload one of 3 things...Swfdec SWF Playergnome OR adobe flash player OR Gnash SWF i didnt do it and ebay ran fine as usual [05:28] (joker!) [05:28] oh yeah [05:28] thats just different flash players [05:29] i choose adobe flash as its updated by people who are payed [05:29] i know but which one...my guess would be gnome because gnome seems to have somthing to do with ubuntu [05:29] nah [05:29] go for the adobe one [05:29] people are payed to update it [05:29] so i wonder if they will want a credit card [05:29] so whenever the windows version gets and update, so do you [05:30] nah [05:30] its free [05:30] it just means it will be the most up to date [05:30] maybe that will make youtune run [05:30] it didnt pop back up again i suppose i can just go to adobe .com [05:31] it will [05:32] got a zip drive built into this thing and never once used it...what am i missing [05:38] why cant i pull up those links... [05:38] not sure, but im gonna swap my linux hard drive out and start installing soon [05:38] better you than me [05:40] okay, lemme see what distro's i have [05:40] geexboc 1.0 and 1.2 beta [05:40] opensuse 11 [05:40] pclinuxos 2007 [05:41] debian 502a [05:41] ^^ codename lenny [05:41] ubuntu 8.10 desktop and server [05:41] and xbox media center 8.10 [05:41] what to choose, what to choose [05:42] i amgine you as having some kindo od room ar garage loaded with computer parts, test equipment and software...like some of the labs where i work [05:42] haha, i wish [05:42] one computer at the moment [05:42] and one set of parts [05:42] and miscellanious small hard drives [05:43] i also collect OS iso's [05:43] small netsplit [05:44] ooh i also have browserlinux which is a variation of puppy [05:44] i got try that puppy on some old puter [05:45] it will get annoying with its single click to open setting [05:46] its so funny. my in laws go thru computers like crazy...they get em all gunked up with spyware and stuff and throw em out, i told them to start giving them all too me, i think all they ever needed was a clean wipe and linux [05:46] lol thats good for someone who browses the internet and uses word [05:47] http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9853/pantallazoth.jpg [05:47] ooh nice compiz setup sancas [05:47] :D thanks [05:47] i can even make out what i think is the compiz fusion tray icon [05:48] so i cant do much elase with my ubuntu 810 [05:48] ? [05:48] else* [05:48] you can, i cant [05:48] im a gamer so im kinda restriced [05:48] do you mess aroung with amd [05:49] not really, dont have enough cash to get a new cpu to mess around with === freego is now known as forces [05:49] atm im running a Celeron D [05:50] celeron! i have 2 [05:50] celeron D [05:50] different to a regular celeron [05:51] id take a p4 or a d any day if i can get a deal [05:51] i'm not sure about this, but i guess in eeepc it was celeron m on something [05:51] yours is a plain singles core [05:51] min is a hyperthreaded core [05:51] yup [05:52] is it the D that identifies that [05:52] yep [05:52] but i have e5200 for serious work :) [05:53] bel can you hold a link for me while i set up? [05:53] oh, seems that i'll miss the bus if i don't go now, have a nice day [05:53] cya Sysi [05:53] brb [05:54] sw00t, time to install [05:55] ill connect from my live USB if i can === forces is now known as freego [06:04] back [06:07] still on windows, suse wouldnt usb boot [06:08] WINDOWS [06:08] yes, i run windows [06:08] which one [06:09] xp pro [06:09] yeah i use it all day at work [06:10] those xp discs that are made only for dell are cheap o nebay 20-25 dollars [06:10] brb, my storage drive isnt loading... gonna check the bios [06:11] 10-4 [06:18] welcome back danopia [06:24] okay now to install ubuntu 8.10 [06:28] yur hummin along with this project! [06:32] techie/i just checked an it say my monitor resolution is 1600x1200? didn't think this ole 17 could do that? [06:33] would this old thing run better if i messed with the resoulution? [06:33] what res were you thinking about? [06:33] dunno [06:34] but on windows i dont seem to remember an 11 year old monitor being able to do 1600x1200 [06:34] which is what ubuntu says i am at [06:34] haha [06:34] yeah right [06:35] you should be running at 1024x768 [06:35] on that sort of hardware [06:35] i think it used to be set at 1280x800 or something [06:35] should i get out the manual [06:35] cause it loads ebay pages kinda slow 93-4 seconds) [06:35] 3-4 seconds [06:36] thats not bad [06:36] i know like i say barnd new when w98 was new it took that long or longer [06:37] but does relotution setting effect speed at all [06:38] brb going to #ubuntu to ask a question [06:38] yup [06:38] nope it doesnt affect speed unless your running a 3d app [06:38] oh so it will just get as close as it can to that 1600x1200 then huh [06:39] yeah [06:39] however if you go too large your 2d apps may start to slow down [06:40] i am surprised i can run around on ebay and do this at the same time [06:40] hehe [06:40] on this old dog [06:40] well your not exactly running low on RAM [06:41] thats for sure [06:41] most of those bus puter i told you about are only 512-1g ram [06:41] the ones they are dumping that is [06:42] i presume that would be atleast DDR333 though [06:42] comared to pc133 [06:42] dunno [06:42] compared* [06:43] ill look in the ones i use tomorrow cause the ones they are dumping look the same [06:43] ooh yay === Techie1 is now known as Techie [06:44] im me again!!! [06:44] how come yur always in and out like that [06:45] is that part of the tunnel deal [06:45] my main reason is i crash my X server quite frequently [06:46] you run thru a server [06:47] no [06:47] the X server is the graphical display [06:47] without it yoou would be stuck at a command line [06:48] verizon dsl told me they have a protective firewall on me and it has various settings...i wonder if they open it up if this dell will run faster? do i need the wall with ubuntu [06:48] the dell wont run faster, the internet may though [06:49] !x [06:49] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [06:50] didnt open again...writing it down, the other night most of the ones you sent opened? [06:50] but i saw the res setting thingunder "system' if that is what you mean [06:51] yep thats it [06:51] system, preference, screen resolution.... [06:51] thats the one [06:51] so should i put it on a realistic number? [06:51] yeah [06:52] brb, gonna boot into buntu [06:52] when it was new before i messed with it it was actuaslly set at 800x600 i think [06:55] messed everything up now [06:55] put tit back but it wont change back uh oh [06:59] man that really messed me up [07:00] i guess this old tanker want that high res stuff and nothing else...whew [07:12] techie i thought i messed up my computer [07:13] brb, gotta get support on setting up dual screen [07:13] that other es made the screen look horrible then i couldnt get it back until i turned it off and back on again [07:14] i gues ubuntu knows where it wants my stuff set? [07:14] prolly [07:15] look fabulous like this but i didnt think i was set up for that res [07:15] but the printed words on my browser ..."applications, places, system" that stuff is in small print but clear [07:18] !dual head [07:18] Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama [07:21] hhh [07:23] must log in to verify my nick as part of the nick reg....hmmm log in, i am logged in arent i? [07:23] "/msg nickserv identify password" [07:24] !xinerama [07:24] xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead [07:25] how do i log in techie, wont let me finish reistering my nick until then arent i logged in now? [07:25] huh [07:26] you copied and pasted the command from the email? [07:26] i did the reg thing then i sent me an email and told me how to finish it...so i did, in the process it says i need to log in to finish registering my nick [07:27] then "msg nickserv identify password" [07:27] thought i was logged in now...just to get in here (yes did that stuff) [07:29] you do the nick serv stuff, then they email you a password, then you come back here and do a final step...but it says i need to log in first? [07:29] to login you need to identify [07:29] ? [07:30] yeah i do the nick serv indentify thing [07:30] you mean to get in here or to do the nick register thing? [07:31] ahhh..no matter, nobody want the nick Balsaq! [07:32] i think it is because of the bizarre way i get inhere in the 1st place [07:35] brb gonna restart X [07:36] 10-4 boss [07:44] trying edubuntu for a bit... [07:49] !dualhead [07:49] Information about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama [07:50] !xuinerama [07:50] Sorry, I don't know anything about xuinerama [07:50] !xinerama [07:50] xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead [07:53] brb [07:57] !xinerama [07:57] xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead [08:47] hello [08:55] why does it let me come stright to xubuntu without going thru rhe proxy? if i try to go to ubuntu i always have to go thru the prxy? [08:55] straight* [09:24] where have you bee techie? [09:24] trying to figure out my graphics issues [09:25] i think i might have to re install ubuntu [09:25] again thought you just did it [09:26] hope it doesnt take you as long as it took me... [09:28] it doesnt [09:29] i think you said 45 minutes once...man those cel D's must be great [09:30] its more of the 3ghz + 1.5gig RAM [09:30] and bootable usb [09:30] 3g...did you overclock it? [09:31] yeah [09:31] its got a 10% oc [09:31] man that thing must be smokin fast [09:31] 2.8 stock [09:31] can i clock my old dell 400 [09:31] would advise against it [09:32] older cpu's werent designed to have their clocks changed [09:32] doing so would probably overheat and kill it [09:32] but i have read tha the one i have is really the same as the 450 and 500 [09:33] 440bx intel chipset [09:33] yeah, once you understand how they brand CPU's you will understand why you dont want to overclock old cores [09:34] !welcome Aristad [09:34] Sorry, I don't know anything about welcome Aristad [09:34] !welcome | Aristad [09:34] Aristad: Hello and welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions or help others. If you'd like to chit-chat, please visit #xubuntu-offtopic and for developer discussion, see #xubuntu-devel :) [09:35] ill be back in the live USB [09:41] okay [09:41] the local time is 8:40 and im starting the install [09:41] cool lets so how fats that D can run [09:44] ive already given it all the info it needs [09:44] now its doing the automated processes [09:45] and ontop of its regular duties its gotta remove the old install [09:45] so this will be a longer install [09:48] its already at 44% [09:48] thats a gamer for u [09:49] lol [09:49] thats a nice second hand setup [09:49] a gamer would go faster [09:49] i could do a real gamer within about 20 minutes [09:49] but i would definitely have to use a live usb [09:50] a cd would just go too slow [09:50] more fun to play around makin somethin from almost nuthin than just buying one of those new ones though [09:50] i agree with you there bal [09:50] ill buy a new one when the prices bottom out but they arent built like my old dell [09:51] some are [09:51] my advice for when you do, dont get a dell... they dont make very good machines anymore [09:51] if they drop that 430 gamer i showed down another 100 bucks ill grab it [09:52] i heard that too its too bad [09:52] the gamer should be alright, but anything they advertise on tv is a no go [09:52] even the case fell like aluminum foil really thin [09:53] 80% [09:53] did you figure out the graphics problem [09:54] nope [09:54] i decided to just go with the proprietary driver [09:54] you mean the standard onboard graphins [09:54] too much work getting dual head to work in ubuntu when it complains about every graphics customisation you make [09:54] no, with ATI theres 2 sets of drivers [09:55] ug, ati [09:55] ahhhh [09:55] thats caused me nothing but headaches [09:55] in both linux AND windows [09:55] theres the open source drivers which are developed by the OS community [09:55] and the proprietary drivers which are closed source and maintained by ATI [09:55] Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: ATI is slowly getting better in linux, SLOOOOOWLLY [09:56] ati no longer supports my card in 9.04 and anove >.< [09:56] Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: as for in windows, i have no problem [09:56] above* [09:56] often wondered, if you have a graphic card does that mean you dont have a onboard graphic built on the motherboard? [09:56] whats your card? [09:56] Radeon X1200 [09:56] its a laptop card [09:56] no bal [09:56] mine is an ati 8mb xpert from1998 [09:56] its more of an aftermarket mod [09:57] 95% [09:57] Cyber_Akuma-Lapt: i have a 9600XT [09:57]