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poolielaunchpad now shows the merge proposal diffs inline in gmail, well done! :)00:30
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pooliethumper: are you changing all those bugs by hand? or by a script?00:55
thumperpoolie: which bugs :)00:58
thumperchanging00:58
thumperI read chasing00:58
thumperthat was by hand00:58
thumperI've been meaning to write a script for a while00:58
thumperbut I can never be arsed00:58
poolie:/ we should just have Fixed01:02
mwhudsonfix verified!01:10
spivMore Fixerated!01:20
spivHmm, I guess the pattern is "Fix Verbed"01:20
spivFix Verbed II: Fixed Harder With A Vengance.01:21
days_of_ruinUnable to obtain lock lp-46119120:///~freshapplepy/rssn/main/.bzr/branch/lock03:34
days_of_ruinheld by codehost@crowberry on host crowberry [process #21552]03:34
days_of_ruinlocked 23 hours, 3 minutes ago03:34
days_of_ruinWill continue to try until 03:33:45, unless you press Ctrl-C03:34
days_of_ruinIf you're sure that it's not being modified, use bzr break-lock lp-46119120:///~freshapplepy/rssn/main/.bzr/branch/lock03:34
days_of_ruinbzr: ERROR: Could not acquire lock "(remote lock)"03:34
days_of_ruin;_;03:34
mwhudsondays_of_ruin: the suggested url is wrong (known bug)03:36
mwhudsondays_of_ruin: try 'bzr break-lock lp:~freshapplepy/rssn/main'03:36
thumpermwhudson: not being updated by translations is it?03:38
thumperjust a thing to think about now03:38
thumperthat we commit to user branches internally03:38
mwhudsonthumper: true03:38
wgrantFor 24 hours?03:38
thumperwell, no03:38
mwhudsonyeah, not for 24 hours i hope03:38
thumperthat'd indicate some screwage03:38
wgrantDoesn't it normally give a more informative username?03:39
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sladenI can't see Launchpad for all the yellow circles03:41
thumperwgrant: no03:41
thumperwgrant: I don't think so03:41
thumper...03:42
* thumper can't remember03:42
wgrantI know it used to.03:43
wgrantBut maybe that was back in the good old days before bzr+ssh.03:43
wgrantheld by wgrant@bazaar.launchpad.net on host crowberry [process #1080]03:46
wgrantI wonder if that *was* translations.03:46
wgrantTHat branch does have translation updates enabled.03:48
wgrantSo there is some screwage! Yay.03:48
mwhudsoncodehost@ could well be translations actually03:48
wgrantThat is the email address that it uses in commits.03:49
wgrantSo... oh dear.03:49
mwhudsonthe translation user?03:54
wgrantTranslation commits are by "held by wgrant@bazaar.launchpad.net on host crowberry [process #1080]03:54
wgrantEr/03:54
wgrantNot that.03:54
wgrantLaunchpad Code Hosting <codehost@crowberry>03:54
days_of_ruinmwhudson, That worked thanks.03:55
johnfArchitecture: all packages build on i386 builders for PPA, right?04:10
johnfCan anyone think of a reason not to build the on i386 instead. Considering it's queue always seems to be shorter https://launchpad.net/builders04:11
lifelessI think you mean 'not on' or something04:13
lifelessbut yes, all->i38604:13
lifelessthere is a Grand Plan04:13
lifelessin the meantime, tough luck said the kitty04:13
ScottKlifeless: Would it perhaps make sense to drop the lpia PPA builders and recycle them for i386/amd64 in the meantime.  It'd give more throughput and I think it's reasonably official that no one cares about lpia anymore.04:14
johnfhmm lp:bzr.dev doesn't have a 2.0.0 tag04:15
lifelessScottK: no comment on lpia [I have no info]04:15
lifelessjohnf: lp:~bzr-pqm/bzr/2.0.004:15
lifelessjohnf: it hasn't been merged back to 2.0, and thence to bzr.dev yet04:16
ScottKlifeless: Ubuntu dropped the atmo specific gcc patches for lpian in Karmic, so it's just a clone of i386.04:16
ScottKatmo/atom04:16
RenatoSilvaerror when deleting milestones (several times along the day): (Error ID: OOPS-1364C714)04:37
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1364C71404:37
wgrantjohnf: The i386 PPA build queue is longer just because arch-indep packages build there.04:44
wgrantMost of the current i386 queue is the archive rebuild, which is well behind any PPA builds.04:44
johnfwgrant: then maybe all should be allocated to the Arch which currently has the shortest Q or similar04:45
lifelessjohnf: its not a policy thing atm, AFAIK, rather its code.04:47
RenatoSilvaguys can't delete milestones04:47
wgrantjohnf: The intention is to eventually pool all of the x86 (i386/amd64/lpia) buildds, but the queue algorithm is hard.04:48
lifelesswgrant: perfect. Good. ENEMIES4EVA04:49
wgrantlifeless: Huh?04:49
johnfwgrant: sounds good04:50
wgrantjohnf: How far is your i386 build behind the rest?04:50
wgrantIt shouldn't be too bad, although there are lots of buildds missing today.04:51
johnfwgrant: they've manage to finish while I've been whinging :) This morning was a bit worse though. Took about an hour. I suppose I'm just used to thing usually building straight away04:52
wgrantHmmm.04:52
wgrantDoes lawrencium show up on /builders for other people?04:52
wgrantIt's disabled, but /builders still shows it building for me.04:53
wgrantAh, that's better.04:53
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asabilhi all07:03
asabilwhen trying to setup launchpad, I end up with the following error:07:03
asabilImportError: No module named _pythonpath07:03
spmasabil: best bet is to try #launchpad-dev07:06
asabilok will do that later, gtg now to work :)07:07
asabilthanks spm07:07
asabilttyl07:07
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resolvehi folks. i have 'people can ask questions in launchpad answers' turned off, but I was still able to post a question. is that only because I'm an admin?10:35
resolveI wish unused features/pages like answers could be removed from the top menu :-(10:36
james_wOOPS-1364ED61311:03
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1364ED61311:03
james_wwhat are the other pages like +activereviews?11:08
james_wthat only shows reviews I can do, not ones that I have bumped to needs-fixing and the like11:08
james_wI'm getting timeouts going to the listing page that would have the links at the top11:08
james_wah, if I go to my +activereviews then I see them11:12
hanskahello people11:15
hanskais there any way to control a project's bugs by email?11:15
hanska(like DBTS does, that is, with control@bugs.debian.org)11:15
LarstiQhanska: yes11:17
LarstiQhanska: https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/EmailInterface11:17
hanskaLarstiQ: great! Is that a new thing? :)11:18
LarstiQhanska: no, been active for years now11:18
hanskauh, I totally missed that, really.11:18
hanskaI'm going to write a git post-receive hook then (hoping that github allows them)11:19
hanskaLarstiQ: maybe I missed this too.. LP still doesn't have git, right?11:19
wgrantI probably first used it four years ago. It has been there a while.11:19
LarstiQhanska: it can do imports using bzr-git11:19
* LarstiQ hasn't been paying attention to the development on that front11:20
LarstiQhanska: do note you'll need to gpg sign the email11:20
hanskaLarstiQ: uhm. That would be difficult, but I'll try to hack something.11:21
hanskaThank you!11:21
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asabilhi all11:35
asabilis there any documentation about how to deploy lp for production ?11:35
Fly-Man-asabil: try #launchpad-dev11:35
asabilok thanks11:36
rowinggolfer_greetings.12:07
rowinggolfer_my project uses launchpad for bugs.12:07
rowinggolfer_and I would like to make it as easy as possible for end-users to file bugs.12:07
rowinggolfer_presumably I can do this with the launchpad api?12:08
rowinggolfer_or perhaps I simply call apport?12:09
rowinggolfer_this is useful (another of mrevell's wonderful howto's)12:11
rowinggolfer_https://help.launchpad.net/Bugs/PluginAPISpec#report_bug():%20File%20a%20new%20bug12:11
rowinggolfer_grr... url fail.12:11
mrevellrowinggolfer_: Why, thank you but the credit for that page must go to gmb :)12:11
wgrantrowinggolfer_: I don't think that does what you want.12:12
mrevellgmb: who can probably answer your question better than me, too12:12
wgrantrowinggolfer_: That's for Launchpad to create bugs on remote bug trackers.12:12
rowinggolfer_mrevell - sorry, you are down as the last editee. my bad12:12
rowinggolfer_wgrant - any suggestions?12:12
rowinggolfer_are there any projects out there already doing this?12:12
wgrantrowinggolfer_: https://help.launchpad.net/API12:12
wgrantWhat exactly do you want to do?12:13
rowinggolfer_my users are totally non-savvy.12:13
rowinggolfer_wgrant - ok... suppose my app runs into a non-critical exception...12:13
rowinggolfer_something like a database schema update failing.12:13
wgrantIt's difficult, because Launchpad bug filing requires that the user has an account.12:14
rowinggolfer_I would like to compile the information I need, and offer the user the opportunity to file it.12:14
rowinggolfer_wgrant - ah.. ok.12:14
rowinggolfer_could I register a user for the application itself?12:14
wgrantYou could, but that sounds more than slightly crazy.12:14
rowinggolfer_why?12:15
rowinggolfer_and perhaps I am :(12:15
wgrantBecause then users cannot receive notifications about updates to the bug, they cannot provide more information, they can do bad things with the account...12:15
rowinggolfer_ok.12:16
rowinggolfer_bug the bug report could include contact details for them.12:16
rowinggolfer_and TBH - I may have to encrypt the information sent occasionally.12:17
rowinggolfer_I was thinking about public/private key crypto there.12:17
rowinggolfer_but, I am just at the planning stage TBH.12:17
rowinggolfer_but I am "community building"... I want these bugs published.12:19
rowinggolfer_otherwise my co-developers have nothing to do :(12:19
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Lukashi there. could anybody help with translations feature in launchpad? I'm stuck14:26
beunomaybe dpm_ is around?14:27
dpmLukas: please, just ask your question :-)14:27
dpmand then we can try to give you a hand14:28
LukasI'm trying to force launchpad to load my POT file which I pushed into repository but no success14:28
dpmLukas: which project is it?14:28
Lukasi anebled it in "Automatic synchronization" but it still says "This project is currently not using any synchronization with bazaar branches."14:28
Lukashttps://translations.launchpad.net/timesheets/1.x14:29
dpmdanilos: jtv was telling me this morning that due to the auto-approver problem imports had been disabled, do you think the problem he is having ^ is caused by that?14:30
dpmLukas: independently of the problem there might be with imports, I would recommend you changing the name of the generated template to something more descriptive than messages.pot. I'm guessing that you are using 'messages' as the translation domain as well, which is the default domain gettext looks for when loading translations (http://www.gnu.org/s/libc/manual/html_node/Locating-gettext-catalog.html)14:38
dpmLukas: I'd recommend using 'timesheets' as the translation domain in the application and timesheets.pot as the template name14:39
Lukasdpm: ok, will change it14:46
Lukasdpm: one more thing? What exactly does this message say and can it be the cause of my problem? "This series does not have an official Bazaar branch. Set it now!"14:48
dpmLukas: let me have a look...14:58
froudHi, when I do bzr push to launchpad I get bzr: ERROR: Transport operation not possible: http does not support mkdir()". What am I missing?14:58
dpmLukas: you probably have to link your branch to the 1.x series. I believe you can just go to https://launchpad.net/timesheets/1.x/+linkbranch and enter your bzr branch there15:01
james_wfroud: what command are you using to push?15:02
dpmLukas: also remember that you can also have translations automatically committed to a bzr branch of your choice (see 'Export translations to branch' in https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/timesheets/1.x/+translations-settings)15:05
dpmLukas: this -> http://blog.launchpad.net/translations/screencast-exporting-translations-to-a-bazaar-branch and this -> http://blog.launchpad.net/translations/screencast-importing-translation-templates-from-a-bazaar-branch might also be useful15:07
froudjames_w: bzr push lp:15:08
james_wfroud: what does "bzr lp-login" say?15:08
froudjames_w: bzr push lp:~development-prepaidmeters/utiliflex/trunk15:09
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froudjames_w: okay fixed have to configure bazaar with launchpad id15:13
lxphi15:22
mvohello! is there a way to rename a project from http://launchad.net/foo to http://launchpad.net/bar ?15:23
beunomvo, you need to file a question, and an admin will do it15:24
lxpi have forgotten my launchpad password15:24
mvobeuno: cool, many thanks15:24
lxpbut the passwort recovery asisstent always says "Your account details have not been found. Please check your subscription email address and try again."15:24
mvobeuno: a question against launchpad -general? or a specific component of it?15:25
lxplaunchpad general15:25
mvothanks again15:25
lxpif i try to reregister i get "The email address lxp@platinumworld.biz is already registered"15:25
Lukasdpm: i changed the domain to "timesheets" Now I should place the timesheets.pot to /timesheets folder? (/timesheets/timesheets.pot)15:34
dpmLukas: it doesn't actually matter what the name of the folder containing the template is (in GNOME and GNU projects it is customary to use po/templatename.pot) timesheets/timesheets.pot is fine15:35
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Lukasdpm: now, everything should be commited and set up correctly. what if no record appears in the queue in upcoming 15 miutes?15:50
Lukasdo you have an idea whether the functionality works or not at the moment?15:51
Lukasdpm: do you have an idea whether the functionality works or not at the moment?15:51
dpmdanilos, henninge or Ursinha: are imports active again? ^15:53
henningeI thought they were ...15:53
dpmLukas: then wait for some minutes and if nothing has happened just ping us again (henninge: how long do roughly bzr pot imports take to appear in the queue after commit?)15:55
danilosdpm: jtv said he was going to re-enable them, but only later today after we rollout a fix15:56
Lukasdpm: i asked my college to assign a series to a branch and now the settings states "Translations are imported with every update from branch lp:timesheets. "   Hope that this will solve the problem. Thanks for your tips.15:56
danilosdpm: oh, imports should be running for everything but ubuntu, if I understood the situation correctly15:56
dpmdanilos: ah, then it might not have been a problem at all in that particular project. He's committed a new template and I guess he should just wait a bit for it to appear in the imports queue15:57
henningedpm, Lukas: commit-to-queue time should be no longer than 30 to 60 minutes.15:58
dpmthanks henninge16:00
dpmLukas: the template has just appeared in the imports queue -> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/timesheets/1.x/+imports , but the path is not timesheets/timesheets.pot as you mentioned, but messages/fr/LC_MESSAGES/timesheets.pot. Could you fix that? Or is there anything in your project or your build system that needs the path to be like that?16:04
Lukasdpm: yes it's there, finally. This path is required by PHP implementation of gettext. At least it works when the .mo file is under this path and I wanted to keep the .pot file with .po, .mo files. Is it a problem?16:07
dpmLukas: it is not a problem in Launchpad (the template has just been imported), but only a recommendation for good practice :-). The template really doesn't belong to the fr/LC_MESSAGES folder, since it is not a French translation. And I think you won't be able to keep the POT file with the MO files, since for other languages they will be installed in xx/LC_MESSAGES/timesheets.mo16:11
Lukasyeah, you16:13
Lukasdpm: yeah you're right, it should be /messages/timesheets.pot instead of /messages/fr/LC_MESSAGES/timesheets.pot16:14
Lukasdpm: if I move it and commit it again and import it again what should I do with the old template having been already imported?16:15
dpmI'm afraid I'll have to ask someone else :) henninge, what's the best thing to do in these cases? ^^ (bzr commit of template to a wrong path, import - now would like to change the path and re-import)16:18
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Lukasdpm: i should perhaps set status to Deleted and import the new one..16:19
dpmLukas: let's wait a few minutes if Henning can give us an answer ^16:21
henningedpm, Lukas: just do "bzr mv" and push the file. If the template name stays the same, the path is updated in Launchpad.16:29
Lukashenninge: cool, thanks16:30
henningeLukas: yeah, if it's "brz mv messages/fr/LC_MESSAGES/timesheets.pot messages/timesheets.pot" the template name is unchanged and it will pick up on the new path.16:30
Lukasthanks all, have a good day/night :-) bye16:37
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zulhow do you disable the redirection for edge testing?16:56
beunozul, it lets you do so on the bottom of the page16:56
zulthanks16:56
pro-rsoftI've just uploaded a package using dput, but it doesnt appear on my ppa page.17:00
pro-rsoftwhat could be the problem?17:00
bigjoolspro-rsoft: did you sign the upload with a key in your Launchpad account?17:00
pro-rsoftuhm, the key might not be in my lp account17:01
pro-rsoftwill it appear when I do add it?17:01
bigjoolsLaunchpad doesn't email if it doesn't know the key, to save the spam17:01
bigjoolspro-rsoft: you need to add the gpg key and re-upload17:01
bigjoolsdput -f, as dput will think you already uploaded it17:02
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pro-rsoftkay, thanks17:04
froudWhen I try bzr lp-login I always get No Launchpad user ID configured. despite having done bzr lp-login my-id17:11
froudBut when I run bzr lp-login my-id it returns17:12
froudbzr: ERROR: https://launchpad.net/%7ESean/%2Bsshkeys is permanently redirected to https://launchpad.net/~sean/+sshkeys17:12
pro-rsoftbigjools, okay, I added my gpg key and reuploaded the package, but it still doesnt appear on my ppa page17:13
froudI uploaded the public key to lp17:13
bigjoolspro-rsoft: how long ago did you upload?  it can take a few minutes to appear17:13
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pro-rsoftjust yet17:13
pro-rsoftor do I need to sign the CoC too?17:14
bigjoolsyou'll get a rejection email if there's any problem, and your gpg key is good17:14
pro-rsoftokay17:15
pro-rsoftAh, I got a reject mail indeed. thanks17:16
bigjoolsgreat, CoC?17:16
pro-rsoftnaw, an error in my changelog file17:17
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pro-rsoftHow do I create a package for multiple distros?17:21
pro-rsoftshould I create multiple changelog files, one for jaunty, karmic, etc?17:21
pro-rsoftis there support for building on ARM?17:35
bigjoolspro-rsoft: for multi series, you can either upload different versions for each, or upload for the oldest series and once it's build you can "copy" it (promote it) to the new series17:37
bigjoolsno ARM support, it's i386, amd64 and lpia17:37
pro-rsoftah, okay. thanks17:38
pro-rsoftlooks like my package got accepted now17:38
pro-rsoftsay, if I wanted to have a package in the official ubuntu repos, and it got accepted, how would that work? would I add it to my ppa, and would it then be promoted or so?17:40
bigjoolsyou would need to get a MOTU to sponsor you, PPAs don't help much in that regard.17:41
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pro-rsoftoh, ok.17:41
froudanyone around who can give commercial customer support for launchpad18:03
beunofroud, maybe bac is still around18:03
beunofroud, are you an existing customer?18:03
bachere i am18:03
bacwhat's up froud?18:04
froudbac: yes18:04
froudbeen so since +7 hrs and cannot get baz setup18:04
froudmaybe I'm having a bland day18:04
frouds/bland/blond18:05
bacfroud: what is the project name in LP?18:05
froudUtiliflex18:06
* froud is asking bac for DCC18:07
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RenatoSilvahttps://launchpad.net/moin-solenoid/+milestone/rc-2009.6.3/+delete18:10
RenatoSilvaError ^: (Error ID: OOPS-1364A2948)18:10
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1364A294818:10
RenatoSilvaCurrently I don't maintain any old versions of my project, because new versions don't behave that much different. I apply bug fixes to new versions, and the recommendation is to update to the latest version.18:13
RenatoSilvaSo the question is: should I leave old versions available for download?18:13
RenatoSilvaI want to remove old versions, so what do I do? a) remove download file b) remove release from milestone 3) remove milestone??18:14
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pro-rsoftWhat does this lintian error mean?18:30
pro-rsoftE: squish source: version-substvar-for-external-package libsquish-dev -> squish18:30
pro-rsoftoops, my bad. please hit me with the largest object you can find.18:31
* beuno goes find a desk18:31
kfogeljames_w: got a sec to chat about launchpadlib packaging?19:17
james_wI do19:17
kfogeljames_w: You probably saw my thread from a while back about the madness of trying to use bleeding-edge launchpadlib :-).  I guess I want to start with a very open-ended question: what's our state of the onion right now?  How far behind is latest-released launchpadlib from trunk-launchpadlib, and how hard is it to run trunk if someone wants to?19:18
james_wkfogel: I believe it is "not very far"19:18
james_wI may be wrong though19:18
kfogeljames_w: not very far behind?19:18
james_wI think the trunk switched as so I'm not subscribed any more19:18
james_wyeah19:18
hax404where can i change my E-Mailadress in my launchpad-account?19:19
james_wlet me dig up your thread19:19
kfogeljames_w: bac was telling me today that login stuff had been moved into launchpadlib, but that version hasn't been released (or at least not packaged) yet.19:19
james_wlogin stuff?19:19
bachax404:  go to https://launchpad.net/people/+me19:21
bachax404: click on the yellow 'edit' icon next to the 'Email' heading19:21
kfogeljames_w: I should confess I'm not a big launchpadlib expert -- I'm not keeping up with latest (partly because I can't :-) ).19:21
kfogeljames_w: bac might know more, and he's right here.  bac?19:21
james_wthat's ok, I'm going straight to the source19:22
bacjames_w: a new method called 'login_with' was added to the Launchpad class.  it makes it easier to manage credentials19:22
james_woh, that was a couple of months ago wasn't it?19:22
bacjames_w:  a lot of the scripts we want to distribute use this method19:22
bacjames_w: yes, it has been a pretty long time19:22
james_wwe're missing the last 4 revisions of lp:launchpadlib in karmic19:22
james_wthat's PROD_SERVICE_ROOT or whatever it is called19:23
james_wcontents on the API documentation19:23
james_w"move samples -> contrib and add pertinent scripts from lp-dev-utils to that directory"19:23
james_w"Add contrib/lp-bug-ifier.py"19:23
james_wso only one little bit of API missing it seems19:23
james_wkfogel: do you have a subject for your thread?19:25
james_wI can't seem to find it19:25
bacjames_w: r37 are the good bits19:25
james_wyeah, that's in karmic19:25
bacjames_w: excellent19:25
kfogeljames_w: one sec19:25
james_wI'm asking as I think the problem you had is now fixed, which should make things easier19:26
bacSolving the launchpadlib packaging mess.19:26
bac8/14/09 on the internal list19:27
kfogeljames_w: "Solving the launchpadlib packaging mess."19:27
kfogeloh19:27
kfogelbac was there ahead ofme19:27
james_wah19:27
james_wI'm not on that list19:27
james_wI think we discussed it on IRC though19:27
backfogel: i'm going afk for an hour.  let me know if you need me to follow up on this19:28
kfogelbac: thanks.19:28
kfogeljames_w: I'll give you a URL, one sec19:29
kfogeljames_w: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/private/canonical-launchpad/2009-August/thread.html19:30
kfogeljames_w: frankly it could have been a public thread, I don't know why I didn't post out here.19:30
james_wno dice19:30
kfogeljames_w: no password?19:30
james_wcorrect19:31
james_whttps://pastebin.canonical.com/20826/19:31
james_wgrep to the rescue19:31
kfogelheh19:31
james_whttp://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/08/05/%23launchpad.html19:31
kfogellet's just get you the thread, that's what's really needed here19:31
kfogelone sec19:31
james_wso yes, that immediate error is no more19:32
james_wso you should at least be able to install from source now19:32
kfogeljames_w: if one can install latest source now, that is a HUGE win.19:39
james_wso, I share your misgivings about installing from source (unsurprisingly)19:39
kfogeljames_w: I'll try it.  And I'm on a debian box at the moment, as it happens (usually am on Ubuntu), so this will be a good test.19:39
james_wbut the recent fixes should at least make it possible19:39
kfogeljames_w: Oh, I have no objection to installing from source for myself.  I just don't think it's a reasonable mass distribution strategy :-).19:40
james_wif it doesn't then I consider it a python tool issue19:40
james_wbut if the packaging gets in the way somehow I can look at fixing it19:40
james_was for packaging in Ubuntu19:40
james_wI will update to new releases each cycle19:40
james_wwe can SRU critical fixes in to old releases19:41
kfogeljames_w: Are we good for Karmic?19:41
james_wand we could look at backports if you want a supported option for "new version on old release"19:41
james_wyeah, karmic is good, we have the latest released version19:41
james_wif you think we should have a newer version then you haven't indicated that by actually, you know, releasing it19:42
james_wthough someone asked me about cherry picking in the stable service_root change to make it easier to run scripts against production19:42
james_wwhich I may pursue after beta19:42
james_wwe could also set up a "launchpadlib" PPA for distribution to interested Ubuntu users19:43
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CarlFKis there a way to search lp ppa's ? like i am looking for ffmpeg19:43
beunoCarlFK, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas19:43
james_wand a automated tip PPA to make it easier to run trunk19:43
james_wbut for the issue of wanting to use new features that some people don't have, it's not a new issue19:44
CarlFKbeuno: yay.  thanks.19:44
james_wso, suck it up, and don't use new features unless you have to19:44
james_wdoes that make sense?19:44
bigjoolsCarlFK: also visit https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ffmpeg and click the green expander at the bottom of the page19:44
CarlFKbeuno: woah... very nice.19:45
bigjoolsbeuno: talking of which, can you see the problem with the 2-column dl on that page?19:45
beunobigjools, that make seems to need to use a different template?19:46
beunoto use up the whole page?19:46
CarlFKfantastic:  4:0.5+svn20090924-0ubuntu0~ppa2   (22 hours ago)19:46
bigjoolsbeuno: I don't understand you19:47
bigjoolsbeuno: I am talking about the package information section19:47
bigjoolsif the <dd> at the top left has a slightly larger than normal icon it seems to push the <dd> below it down19:48
beunobigjools, ah19:48
beunoI see19:48
beunoit needs to format this differently19:48
bigjoolsI've seen it on a few pages, not just the DSP19:48
beunoyeah19:49
beunosinzui just enlightened me19:49
bigjoolsoh good job getting rid of the disgusting grey background on the sidebar BTW19:49
beuno:)19:50
beunoit was all thanks to jml's wierd color settings that I saw it19:50
bigjoolsah jml is weird for sure19:51
fabrice_spHi. With the new interface, how is it possible to see the log of changes made in a bug report?19:56
maxburgh20:03
maxbfabrice_sp is right - where's the link to /+activity gone?!20:03
pro-rsoftmy package build had a build error, so I tried to dput a fixed version of the source package. But it keeps getting rejected. What should I do?20:03
maxbWhat is the rejection reason?20:04
pro-rsoftalready existed20:06
pro-rsoft"file X already exists in Y, but uploaded version has different contents"20:06
RenatoSilvawhen I create a bug based on a question, will the reporter be who asks or me?20:08
maxbpro-rsoft: It is not possible to reupload different contents for the *same* version. You must increase the version.20:08
maxbI have filed bug 436818 on fabrice_sp's observation20:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 436818 in malone "Bug Activity Log no longer linked in 3.0 UI" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43681820:09
pro-rsoftmaxb, ok, thanks20:09
quentusrexkeyserver.ubuntu.com down???20:46
resolvehi folks. I have a problem - http://pastebin.com/m48f97c4a21:07
resolveis crowberry supposed to hang on to the lock for that long?21:07
resolveand why can't I break it?21:07
resolveto answer my second question, replacing the text with 'lp:projname' seems to break the lock21:08
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jbuncherAnyone here?  Launchpad seems broken, I can't report a bug.  Clicking on "report a bug" takes me to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs  Is anyone else experiencing this?21:43
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ScottKjbuncher: If it's an Ubuntu bug you are trying to report, that's on purpose.  The page tells you the preferred way to report bugs.21:46
jbuncherScottK:  that's fairly maddening, but ok.  Plenty of bugs/wishlist items don't have apps that are running, and using ubuntu-bug seems like overkill.21:49
jbuncherScottK:  What would be your recommended action for filing a but/wishlist agaist a package that no longer exists in karmic?  (libstdc++5 to be specific, plenty of proprietary binaries still depend on it, so it'd be nice if it was at least available in universe so that it wouldn't prevent upgrades to karmic)21:51
jbuncherOk, I'm attempting to file it using "ubuntu-bug libstdc++6", but it won't load firefox and is crashing with some kind of window error.21:54
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ScottKjbuncher: I've no idea.  I'm not a proponent of this change, just an observer.  I'd ask in #ubuntu-bugs.22:19
czajkowskiany idea who i can ask about the uds spoonsorship page submitted but getting message waiting for login.launchpad.net transgering from summit.ubuntu.com22:20
czajkowskii think it's submitted22:20
czajkowskibut not sure22:20
czajkowski*transfering22:20
ScottKczajkowski: PM jacastro and ask him to check.22:20
czajkowskiScottK: thanks22:20
ScottKGenerally it's OK, but he can make sure (known bug)22:20
ScottKYou're welcome.22:20
jbuncherScottK:  Thanks for the info.22:21
ScottKjbuncher: You're welcome.22:21
czajkowskiScottK: that's a special bug22:22
kfogelbeuno: I'm trying to update the description for bug #436888, but after I hit the green checkmark to submit my edits, it spins forever and I get a pink rectangle around the text field, with this message in tiny font at the bottom:22:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 436888 in launchpad "Linking a branch to a bug report doesn't show the new link until you refresh the branch page." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43688822:29
kfogelLinking a branch to a bug report doesn't show the new link until you refresh the branch page.22:29
kfogelCancelOk22:29
kfogel   1. Launchpad itself22:29
kfogel   2. Bugs22:29
kfogel   3. Bug #43688822:29
kfogelAffects Status Importance Assigned to Milestone22:29
kfogel  22:29
kfogelLaunchpad itself Edit22:29
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kfogelNew22:29
kfogel22:29
kfogelUndecided22:29
kfogel22:30
kfogelUnassigned Edit22:30
kfogel22:30
kfogelAffecting: Launchpad itself22:30
kfogelFiled here by: Karl Fogel22:30
kfogelWhen: 15 minutes ago22:30
kfogelProject22:30
kfogel(Choose…)22:30
kfogelStatus Importance Milestone22:30
kfogel22:30
kfogel22:30
kfogelAssigned to22:30
kfogelNobody22:30
kfogelMe22:30
kfogel22:30
kfogel(Choose…)22:30
kfogelComment on this change (optional)22:30
kfogelAlso affects project Also affects distribution Target to release22:30
kfogelThis bug affects me too Edit This bug affects me too Edit22:30
kfogel 22:30
kfogelBug Description22:30
kfogelI was on this branch page:22:30
kfogel  https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kfogel/launchpadlib/426323-apidoc-html-title-attrs22:30
kfogeland clicked "Link to a bug report" to link it to bug #426323. After I entered the bug number and hit Return, I was left at the branch page, and the link now said "Link to another bug report" -- however, the actual link to the bug, which should have been right above that, was not present! Only after I reloaded the branch page did that link show up (the one with the bug icon next to it and the summary of the bug as the link text).22:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 426323 in launchpad "put title attributes on section/div elements in API documentation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42632322:30
kfogelI don't know if it's important that this was the first time this branch had been linked to any bug report. I'll test by linking that same branch to *this* bug after I submit, and linking a fresh branch to this bug. More in a moment.22:30
kfogel CancelOk22:31
kfogelEntity-body was not a well-formed JSON document.22:31
kfogelaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh22:31
kfogelbeuno: let me try that again:22:31
kfogelbeuno: I'm trying to update the description for bug #436888, but after I hit the green checkmark to submit my edits, it spins forever and I get a pink rectangle around the text field, with this message in tiny font at the bottom:22:31
ubottuLaunchpad bug 436888 in launchpad "Linking a branch to a bug report doesn't show the new link until you refresh the branch page." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43688822:31
kfogel"Entity-body was not a well-formed JSON document."22:31
ScottKkfogel: Known issue22:31
ScottKkfogel: Add /+edit to the url to get the non-ajax edit form.22:31
kfogelScottK: the unable-to-edit-a-bug-description is a known issue?22:31
ScottKYep.22:31
kfogelScottK: thanks22:31
ScottKApparently that's not a critical feature for a release.22:31
kfogelScottK: sheesh.  I went to link a branch to a bug, and ran across *three* bugs in that process of doing that, one of which (the edit description bug) was already known.  The other two are now filed.22:42
ScottKDon't get me started.22:43
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solrizesuddenly filebug-advanced doesn't work any more, it always goes to the kiddie interface now.  what happened???22:55
gmbsolrize: We removed +filebug-advanced; you can now do anythign you could do thorough that page on the main page, provided you have the right permissions.22:56
solrizehuh?  how?  thanks22:57
gmbsolrize: There's an "Extra options" section of the page that drops down, just about the submit button (on the second page). In there you can set importance, status, assignee and tags, depending on the permissions you ahve. You can also add an attachment.22:58
solrizei'm trying to figure out how to get to that screen without going through the search step23:00
gmbsolrize: You have to go through the search step.23:02
gmbsolrize: (We're working on making the search results load asynchronously, which will reduce your load times and stop timeouts from being as much of an issue.23:02
solrizegmb, the search step is a useless pain in the neck, i'm one of the maintainers of this program, i get email notifications of every bug, lots of times i file bugs against features that i implemented 5 minutes ago and i KNOW there will be no useful search hits23:04
solrizecan the bypass url please be put back pleeeease?23:05
gmbsolrize: No.23:05
gmbsolrize: But23:05
gmbYou can just put a meaningless term in the search box on the first step23:05
gmbAnd then correct it.23:05
gmbOn the second step.23:05
solrizegaaah.23:05
solrizeis there a bug filing API so i can bypass the web interface completely?23:05
gmbsolrize: Yes. https://help.launchpad.net/API23:06
solrizethanks23:06
uni4dfxwhy does launchpad redirect me to the wiki when i try to report a bug?23:55
ScottKuni4dfx: Because of the reasons explained on the wiki page.23:55
uni4dfxi have an account, i just don't wanna use the ubuntu-bug thing23:56
uni4dfxfine, i won't report any more bugs23:59

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