[09:23] <davmor2> cjwatson: Morning did your fix for side by side actually make to cd now?
[09:30] <cjwatson> for Vista detection, you mean?
[09:31] <cjwatson> $ curl -s http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/karmic-desktop-i386.manifest | grep ubiquity
[09:31] <cjwatson> ubiquity 1.99.22
[09:31] <cjwatson> looks like it, yes
[09:32] <davmor2> cjwatson: Yay
[09:32] <davmor2> I'll test as soon as the dl script has finished then :)
[10:20] <davmor2> cjwatson: did your fix for alternate get in too?
[10:20] <cjwatson> what fix for alternate?
[10:20] <cjwatson> sorry, I have a LOT on my plate right now, I'm going to need you to be specific
[10:23] <davmor2> I sec I'll check
[10:24] <davmor2> debootstrap fix
[10:24] <cjwatson> yes, that's in
[10:24] <davmor2> cjwatson: cool I can try a side by side with that too :)
[11:12] <davmor2> cjwatson: still no vista in the menu :(
[11:14] <cjwatson> bah. logs again?
[11:16] <davmor2> cjwatson: no probs
[11:20] <davmor2> cjwatson: added to bug 430141
[11:21] <davmor2> added grub.cfg and syslog anything else?
[11:25] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3478 ubiquity/ (6 files in 2 dirs):
[11:25] <CIA-33> ubiquity: Use an explicit state file to determine whether oem-config runs, since
[11:25] <CIA-33> ubiquity: with Upstart it's no longer straightforward to just add/remove rc*.d
[11:25] <CIA-33> ubiquity: symlinks (LP: #432180).
[11:27] <cjwatson> davmor2: sorry, will be with you in a bit, bzr is swapping my laptop to death here
[11:28] <davmor2> cjwatson: no probs
[11:32]  * cjwatson ponders going to the shop for a RAM upgrade
[11:32] <cjwatson> 1gb is starting to look inconveniently small
[11:33] <cjwatson> which, I might add, is TWENTY-FIVE TIMES the size of the first hard disk I ever owned
[11:33] <davmor2> :)
[11:33] <davmor2> cjwatson: you're making yourself sound a lot older than you are now dude :)
[11:34] <davmor2> till I realise that my first system didn't have a harddrive
[11:34] <cjwatson> meh, that was about - must have been 18 years
[11:34] <cjwatson> oh, I didn't say that was my first system
[11:34] <cjwatson> just the first with a hard disk
[11:35] <davmor2> zx81's were great
[11:35] <cjwatson> I started out on the good old ZX Spectrum, so my laptop has over TWENTY-ONE THOUSAND TIMES the amount of RAM that it had
[11:36] <cjwatson> dear god
[11:36] <ogra> heh
[11:36]  * ogra started with a VIC20 ... 3,5k iirc
[11:36] <ogra> and a datasette :)
[11:53] <cjwatson> ok, at least we have an error this time
[11:53] <cjwatson> Sep 25 11:09:56 ubuntu os-prober: Device '/dev/sda1' does not exist; skipping
[11:53] <cjwatson> etc.
[11:54] <cjwatson> but /dev is bind-mounted, so WTF
[11:59] <davmor2> cjwatson: daft question does os-probe need the device monuted to read the files to add them to grub?  Cause further up it is unmounting them.
[11:59] <cjwatson> it mounts them itself, or reuses existing mounts if it can find them
[12:00] <cjwatson> but the problem is that it's claiming that /dev/sda1 actually isn't there (or possibly that mapdevfs is failing inside the chroot)
[12:01] <cjwatson> though it'll probably be using its own mapdevfs implementation which is readlink -f
[12:02] <cjwatson> hmm, or is it, it seems to be keeping ubiquity installed for some reason
[12:02] <cjwatson> or at least not nuking its files
[12:04] <cjwatson> I think what's happening here is that it's copied the mapdevfs binary from ubiquity but not all the libraries it depends on
[12:04] <cjwatson> so mapdevfs fails and os-prober gets confused
[12:04] <cjwatson> this is actually an entirely separate bug although with the same symptom
[12:19] <davmor2> cjwatson: want me to make out a new bug or leave it be for now?
[13:00] <cjwatson> new one, I think, if you could
[13:04] <davmor2> cjwatson:  no probs after lunch
[13:32] <cjwatson> davmor2: reproduced, anyway
[13:33] <cjwatson> I must say 3GB is a heck of a lot more comfortable
[13:43] <cjwatson> I think it's because ubiquity has a prerm and so doesn't get removed, but nothing ensures that its dependencies don't get removed either
[13:43] <cjwatson> or rather blacklisted
[14:02] <cjwatson> davmor2: let me know when you have a bug number, as I have the bug fixed now
[14:37] <davmor2> cjwatson: bug 436613 hope that's close enough for you :)#
[14:44] <cjwatson> that'll do, thanks
[14:45] <davmor2> so 3GB feels better than 1 then )
[14:45] <davmor2> :) even
[14:45] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3479 ubiquity/ (debian/changelog scripts/install.py):
[14:45] <CIA-33> ubiquity: We already avoid copy-blacklisting files in packages that have a prerm,
[14:45] <CIA-33> ubiquity: since they might require non-trivial work before removing their files.
[14:45] <CIA-33> ubiquity: Now also avoid copy-blacklisting files in dependencies of such packages,
[14:45] <CIA-33> ubiquity: as otherwise we risk leaving programs in the target system for a while
[14:45] <CIA-33> ubiquity: that don't have their library dependencies satisfied, causing confusion
[14:45] <CIA-33> ubiquity: when other programs try to use them (LP: #436613).
[14:47] <cjwatson> oh god yes, I think my productivity has been improved by 50% here
[14:47] <cjwatson> tripled would probably be going a bit far :)
[14:47] <davmor2> cjwatson: only cause you can't type any faster than you already are :)
[14:49] <davmor2> cjwatson: out of interest what is prerm.  pre bit I'm assuming is before it's the rm bit that is throwing me
[14:50] <cjwatson> pre-removal
[14:50] <davmor2> ah
[14:51] <davmor2> I like the look of the new lucid release schedule makes a lot more sense :)
[15:02] <CIA-33> ubiquity: cjwatson * r3480 ubiquity/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.99.23
[15:34] <cjwatson> oem seems to work today, with the exception of the fact that oem-config-firstboot will run on *every* boot, which I just fixed
[15:35] <cjwatson> keyboard layout default is still screwy
[15:40] <davmor2> cjwatson: yes set uk time and you get usa keyboard right?
[15:40] <cjwatson> yeah
[15:40] <davmor2> cjwatson: bug 423897
[16:02] <davmor2> cjwatson: oem wise I'll have another look at kde it had a slightly different issue to the Ubuntu one
[16:52] <cjwatson> mterry: ah, hello. can you confirm that UbuntuSpec:foundations-karmic-oemconfig is as done as it's going to get?
[17:32] <CIA-33> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1168 ubuntu/ (10 files in 3 dirs): Move to 2.6.31-11 kernels.
[17:44] <CIA-33> ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r152 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/debian/changelog: Freeze exception (LP: #436063).
[18:16] <CIA-33> ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r153 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/ (255 files in 12 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[18:39] <CIA-33> ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu: evand * r154 ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 7
[22:08] <CIA-33> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1172 ubuntu/debian/control: actually run debian/genbuilddeps
[22:51] <CIA-33> debian-installer: cjwatson * r1173 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081029ubuntu61