[00:18] oh pants [00:19] should have incremented the u-d-t version [00:19] too tired to do it now [00:41] Laney: I converted it and reassigned === jono_ is now known as jono [02:30] Hey guys, how can I pass added configure flags to a package if I want to repackage it? It's using autofoo? [02:55] ah, figured it out but now it's failing :( guess I need to look at it more [04:01] Is there a guide to help cdbs users to use dh7? I learned to package using cdbs, but now it seems that dh7 is superior to it and I want to learn how. [04:03] Okay folks, there is a new package of Tahoe-LAFS at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/tahoe-lafs . It fixes all known licensing issues. [04:06] \o/ [04:06] ripps: I thought debhelper was actually used by cdbs? What's telling you using it directly is superior? [04:06] mzz: dh7 has much of the same 'magic' cdbs does [04:06] man [04:07] is there some document somewhere everyone but me is reading that explains what the best tools are right now [04:07] no [04:07] bah [04:07] It just seems I should learn how to actually use debhelper, instead of just relying on cdbs to do it for me. [04:08] is that just because such a document would be too controversial, in an editor flamewar kind of way, or because nobody has gotten around to writing one, or what? [04:08] ripps: by that argument one should learn assembler rather than depending on gcc :P [04:08] I'll grant its good knowledge [04:08] mzz: allof the above, I suspect [04:08] Actually, I have learned some assembly... [04:08] well, one thing about cdbs is that sometimes one of its steps did something bad to my package and it was hard to drop in some debugging before that step [04:09] if my Makefile just ran a whole lot of dh_* helpers I'd have more obvious spots to put extra checks [04:09] cdbs does have hooks, but figuring out what they all are is nontrivial, unless I missed yet another doc [04:09] man debhelper [04:10] and yeah, debhelper's manpages are pretty good, at least the ones I've read so far === danbhfive is now known as ChogyDan [04:19] Hey guys, can anyone see what's failing here? http://paste2.org/p/436324 <-- output http://paste2.org/p/436325 <-- rules file [04:26] RoAkSoAx: Here is my advice: Get a security update into Jaunty that adds the patch to 0.6.35-0ubuntu1 (presumably 0.6.35-0ubuntu1.1) and then backport that to Hardy/Intrepid. You should also get a security update for the released versions in Hardy/Intrepid. [05:09] ScottK, ok thanks! will do then :) [06:15] Hi. What rights should I have to be able to unsubscribe u-u-s ? [06:22] Can some MOTU unsubscribe u-u-s from #417036 ? [06:22] bug #417036 [06:22] Launchpad bug 417036 in psi "Psi 0.13 in Karmic?" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/417036 [07:15] what are the necessary files to build any pkg? coz after i apt-get source i see a lot of files are all those necessary? since i've also seen pkgs being build without any of those files.... [07:16] please be more specific [07:16] the files not in the debian/ directory are normally from the upstream source tarball, which may contain a few things that aren't actually necessary, depending on how tidy upstream is [07:17] wrapster, all the ones in debian directory [07:17] everything in debian/ should serve some purpose [07:17] fabrice_sp: no.. but one moment i'll do a pastie and you can understand better [07:17] yes: build the package [07:17] ? [07:19] !pastebin | wrapster [07:19] wrapster: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [07:19] (just in case) [07:19] "pastie" usually means they know that already, in my experience [07:21] anyway: have to go. bye [07:25] http://pastie.org/630039 [07:26] have a look at that.. i dwd the source into a dir called binutils under which i had another dir with the pkg name here can i delete all the files except changelog, debian/,copyright? [07:27] I don't understand how your pastebin relates to your question [07:27] your pastebin lists the stuff in the binutils source, not the debianization of that [07:28] mzz may be iwas not clear..one moment. [07:29] http://pastie.org/630039 [07:30] yes. [07:30] now .... my question is ,is it enough to just have debian/ changelog and copyright files within the "binutils-2.18.1~cvs20080103" dir and then yet run dpkg-buildpackage to generate the pkg? [07:30] wait, where'd the debian.diff.gz go? [07:31] oops [07:31] that was not even downloaded [07:31] :( [07:31] perhaps there isn't one [07:31] (this may be a "native" package) [07:31] anyway! [07:31] you seem to be root. Stop being that. You shouldn't be root for most, if not all, of the packaging process. [07:32] the stuff in the first "ls" is what I'd expect to get from apt-get source, although normally there's also a .diff.gz [07:32] the stuff in the second "ls" is what's present in the binutils (upstream) source tree, plus a debian/ directory. [07:32] correct [07:33] what's present in the upstream source tree obviously varies wildly between upstream projects. [07:33] what's present here doesn't strike me as very unusual. [07:33] so I don't understand what you don't understand. [07:33] hee hee [07:34] (since your original question was something like "coz after i apt-get source i see a lot of files are all those necessary? since i've also seen pkgs being build without any of those files....") [07:35] ok in that case.. what i wanted to point out was i see a lot of files in the upstream dir... [07:36] are all those necessary? except for the debian? [07:41] depends on how tidy upstream is [07:41] most of them tend to be [07:42] there may be some things in there that aren't installed because they're only interesting to those working on the source package [07:43] there may also be some things that are only necessary to rebuild the build system, which may actually be useful here since it seems to be a snapshot [07:43] there may be stuff that's only used on other platforms [07:43] there may be stuff that isn't built for whatever reason (experimental, dependency not packaged, etc) [07:43] I think most of what you see here is indeed necessary [07:55] do new packages require a FFe, or are they simply not acceptable? Opencore finally ended up in debian, and there are quite some very vocal bug reporters requiring amr support in ffmpeg [07:56] siretart: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreezeExceptionProcess#FeatureFreeze%20for%20new%20packages === santiago-pgsql is now known as foursixnine [08:40] Hello, does ubuntu care about armel architecture ? [08:50] LP 427562 [08:50] Launchpad bug 427562 in tablelist "tklib already contain tablelist package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427562 === asac_ is now known as asac [09:54] I've previously generated some packages from a source package called opensg. I want to rename the generated packages from this source archive, so that they can be installed alongside version 2 of opensg. Do you simply create a new revision of the source package with the new package names and upload it? [11:02] DaveMorris, yes. [11:02] DaveMorris, but it'll land in the NEW queue due to the new binary packages. and you need to provide valid Replaces: etc lines in debian/control [11:03] directhex: I assume they are of the format Replaces: then [11:04] with adequate versioning. read the debian nm guide === yofel_ is now known as yofel [11:55] wgrant: ping, is it possible to add a category for java packages at http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/multidistrotools/ I believe section=java should be sufficient for now for filtering. [12:06] slytherin: Have a http://qa.ubuntuwire.org/multidistrotools/java.html [12:06] wgrant: Great, thanks. [12:06] slytherin: np [12:22] hi folks === doko__ is now known as doko === karimas_ is now known as karimas === cyphermo1 is now known as cyphermox [14:54] hyperair, thoughts on requesting a FFe for Banshee? since it's staying in universe for now, i see no benefit to sticking with the old stable version when the beta is more reliable [14:54] directhex: i wouldn't mind. [14:55] hm. who's in motu-release & can give their informal opinion? [14:58] for those working of FTBFS, here's a list of problematic universe packages sorted by popularity: http://paste.ubuntu.com/277970/ [15:04] 681 ftbfs bugs? lawks [15:04] directhex: https://launchpad.net/~motu-release/+members and at this point, I don't have an informal opinion about a banshee FFe yet, to be honest [15:04] Hmm [15:04] libtheora 1.1 is out [15:11] LucidFox: Great, But we won't get it in karmic. :-( [15:16] LucidFox: The 1.1 release is API/ABI compatible, so theoretically there should be no problem in pulling it in karmic. :-) [15:52] Hey, does anyone know anything about intltool? It's failing with a strange error Ican't figure out [15:52] Invalid [] range "F-8" in regex; marked by <-- HERE in m/[encoding: UTF-8 <-- HERE ] [15:52] at /usr/bin/intltool-update line 321, line 1. [15:58] apparently it thinks [encoding: UTF-8] is a regex, try escaping brackets with \ [15:59] the weird part is it works on other files [15:59] which when I compare the hexdumps, are identical up until the point where files start getting listed [15:59] I can't figure out why it's trying to read that as a regexp [16:00] it must be confused by "m/" part which looks like a start of regex match [16:00] there's no m/ in the file [16:00] http://paste2.org/p/437195 [16:00] randomaction: ^ [16:01] i see [16:02] I thought maybe there was a hidden char or something, but hexdump says not the case [16:38] Hello, how can I check if a package is in build-dep of any other package in Ubuntu ? [16:53] Morning folks! (UTC-6) [16:57] Good day over there in, I'm guessing, UTC-5, mterry. [16:57] Would you please look at http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/tahoe-lafs ? I believe it is ready to be uploaded into the Karmic Queue. [16:58] AnAnt: apt-cache depends PACKAGENAME [16:58] AnAnt: Ah, wait, that is for depends not build-depends... [17:05] AnAnt: reverse-build-depends (from ubuntu-dev-tools) or using grep-dctrl === micahg1 is now known as micahg [17:15] Hi, can someone help me with creating .deb files? [17:16] Hello? [17:17] thanks [17:17] I was told to ask here, help would be nice [17:18] geser: I need dpkg-src lines in sources.list for that ? [17:19] AnAnt: yes [17:20] !packagingguide [17:20] yes, as only the Sources.gz files contain this information [17:20] The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports [17:20] Lichi: ^^ [17:30] thanks [17:31] LP 427562 [17:31] Launchpad bug 427562 in tablelist "tklib already contain tablelist package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427562 [17:40] LP 436733 [17:40] Launchpad bug 436733 in obextool "Depend on tklib instead of tablelist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436733 [17:41] I attached a patch to LP 436733 [17:42] should I set it to confirmed ? [17:44] AnAnt, you should at least subscribe u-u-s :-) [17:45] I don't have a Source.gz (and I have a low bandwidth internet), can someone run: "reverse-build-depends tablelist" for me please ? [17:45] fabrice_sp: ok [17:46] AnAnt, I've run it and it doesn't give any package [17:47] should I download something first? [17:47] fabrice_sp: thanks ! I just wanted to make sure [17:47] fabrice_sp: can you mention this in LP 427562 please ? [17:47] Launchpad bug 427562 in tablelist "tklib already contain tablelist package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427562 [17:48] ok. I'll paste the result [17:48] output, I mean [17:49] ok [17:49] thanks [17:49] ;-) [17:49] so should I set LP 436733 to confirmed, since I attached a debdiff patch to it ? [17:49] Launchpad bug 436733 in obextool "Depend on tklib instead of tablelist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436733 [17:52] bddebian: Hello [17:56] AnAnt, better to confirmed, yes, but it doesn't really matter [17:56] it matters for sync requests [17:59] Hi AnAnt, what do you need this time? :) [17:59] Hey bddebian :-) [17:59] TheMuso, persia could you add me to the u-u-s team please? [18:02] bddebian: remember tablelist that was removed from Debian [18:04] bddebian: it was removed because it was already included in tklib, so, I am trying to remove it from Ubuntu too, so I filed those bugs: LP 436733 & LP 427562 [18:04] Launchpad bug 436733 in obextool "Depend on tklib instead of tablelist" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436733 [18:04] Launchpad bug 427562 in tablelist "tklib already contain tablelist package" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/427562 [18:06] Can some MOTU unsubscribe u-u-s from Bug #406574 ? [18:06] Launchpad bug 406574 in gjots2 "please update gjots2 to 2.3.8 (complete patch included)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406574 [18:08] done and done [18:08] arent you in uus? [18:09] Guys I have a curious question... When i apt-get supposing it says dependency1 is missing install it first.. is there anyway that I can actually hardcode it into so that when i apt-get it will first check whether the dependency is satisfied if not it will automatically download it and then proceed with the installation? [18:10] ?! [18:10] Laney, no: it seems new MOTU are not automatically added to u-u-s (that's why I pinged persian and TheMuso before) [18:10] yeah that's right [18:10] wrapster: that's what apt-get does ! [18:10] AnAnt: one moment ... [18:10] i'll give you a real world eg [18:12] brb [18:25] AnAnt: what i wanted to say was... supposing i want to dpkg-buildpackage binutils.. it complains that tcl8.4 is necessary as some library that binutils checks for is a part of tcl8.4 ... so is there a way I can actually just say build bintuils and when the dpkg-buildpackage is running can it check and install tcl if not present? [18:29] wrapster: this is what Build-depends is for in debian/control) [18:31] oh so supposing i put tcl in the control file that should do the trick? [18:32] huj [18:36] If anyone gets a chance can anyone review LP 436082 -- I added patch that resolves FTBFS [18:36] Launchpad bug 436082 in minicom "Fix FTBFS" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436082 [18:36] wrapster, you don't apt-get , you apt-get install , and that should not tell you that a dependency is missing, if it does, then you are missing a dependency for that app on your repository [18:36] so, presumably that dependency is already listed on debian/control [18:36] joaopinto: yeah your right.. i corrected my mistake.. the error was during the build-package [18:37] ah ok [18:37] i meant when im building the pkg from source if i get an error saying a dependency is missing then if i add that into the control file... will that be sufficient? [18:41] can some other MOTU have a look at Bug #406574. I don't know how to answer :-/ [18:41] Launchpad bug 406574 in gjots2 "please update gjots2 to 2.3.8 (complete patch included)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/406574 [18:41] (to a pissed off contributor, I mean) [19:09] Grrr...I'm having a problem with updating a package given the following tutorial (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate), but the error output tripped pastebin's spam filter. [19:10] Maybe I could paste the last few lines? [19:15] Is it okay if I paste the last few lines? [19:23] * ubuntu_giant sometimes wonders if anyone is alive in these chat rooms. :( [19:24] ubuntu_giant: so do I [19:24] depends on the day and the time of the day [19:25] don't forget that it's friday evening in europe so some people do other activities instead of IRC [19:26] I've been following the tutorial at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/PackageUpdate, and I'm having some trouble, but pastebin won't let me paste my error output because it's supposedly spam. Would it be alright if I paste the last few lines? Thanks. [19:26] based on the actual activity here I guess nobody would object [19:27] Cool, I got it...it's not all the output, but enough. http://pastebin.com/d7c9c47a2 [19:28] did you use dch to edit the changelog? [19:29] Yes. [19:29] can you pastebin the changelog around line 13-15? [19:29] I followed the steps exactly (except for my name and email, of course). [19:29] fabrice_sp, congrats on your motuship :) [19:30] Sorry, I'm sort of new to this packaging thing. What would the changelog be? [19:32] debian/changelog, and please pastebin around the first 20 lines (as it complains about line 13 and 15) [19:34] Sorry about that. :( http://pastebin.com/d50065e93 [19:36] I assume it's about line 3: each line needs to be indented with at least 2 spaces (besides the header (like line 1 or 7) or the footer (like line 5 or 18) [19:37] RoAkSoAx, thanks ;-) [19:38] geser: evidently not us *cough* [19:39] sebner: I'm gaming now a little and only watch IRC now at then :) [19:39] geser: heh nice, lucky you didn't write "go out or social activities" ^^ === Cut-R changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: BANDES DE PEDOPHILES VIOLEURS MANIPULATEURS MENTEURS FILS DE PUTES ENCULÉS TROUS DU CUL MAGOUILLEURS ABUSEURS D'ENFANTS !!! [19:40] WTF? === slangasek changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Karmic Feature Freeze is in effect now! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/ | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20090909-karmic.html [19:41] I reported that guy earlier... [19:41] slangasek: thx for changing it back [19:41] thanks slangasek [19:41] sure [19:41] geser: Sorry, but indenting the lines seemed to make it worse. :( [19:41] somebody reported him to the freenode ops? [19:42] ubuntu_giant: worse? you only indented line 3, right? [19:42] (preventative measure; someone please remind me to remove the topic lock later) [19:43] Oh, no. Sorry, overread the line 3 thing. [19:43] Read the rest of the post. :) [19:45] It says it's a gpg error, so I wouldn't think the changelog would have anything to do with it. [19:46] the gpg error you can ignore for now (unless you plan to upload the package somewhere) [19:47] it happens when your name in line 5 doesn't match one of your gpg key uid so debuild can't figure out itself which key to use [19:47] you can use the -k option to tell which key to use for signing [19:50] I redid the changing line 3, but I still get the error. [19:50] the same error? [19:50] No, a different error, actually. I'll post it in a sec... [19:52] http://pastebin.com/d1e38bd5 [19:53] I see only the signing error, which you can ignore untill you want to upload it somewhere [19:54] hi, I'm trying to build -modules packages from zaptel-source in a pbuilder [19:56] I made a dummy package that builds them. It basically works on Debian: [19:56] Cool...spam filter didn't trip: http://pastebin.com/d701ad710 [19:56] http://svn.debian.org/viewsvn/pkg-voip/tools/builder/zaptel-modules/debian/ [19:58] This package is a helper package. It builds, but does not get into the repository [19:58] I'm trying to build it with hardy, and I see two errors when pbuilder tries to get dependencies: [19:59] zaptel-source: Depends: module-assistant (>= 0.8.1) which is a virtual package [19:59] pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: linux-headers-2.6.26-2-all which is a virtual package. [20:00] Now I figure that I'll have to adjust the kernel version, and maybe not even use the -all [20:00] (right now I can live with that, as I build for i386 only) [20:01] But why do I get that message about module-assistant ? [20:02] Hi all. I'm trying to sort out splitting a package. I have "foo" that I split into "foo" and "foo-bin". "foo" must depend on "foo-bin", and it shouldn't be possible to install old "foo" and new "foo-bin" at the same time. How is this done? I hear "Breaks" isn't supported yet, is it "foo-bin Conflicts (<< split_version)"? [20:03] "foo-bin Conflicts: foo (<< split_version)"? [20:08] persia: mind adding me to ubuntu-universe-sponsors? (finally, I find some time to do sponsoring at least here and then again :)) [20:13] hmmm.. NM. [20:19] Anybody on updating a debian package? http://pastebin.com/d701ad710 [20:31] ubuntu_giant: looks like you've got an error in debian/changelog (from a small glimpse only) [20:32] * sistpoty reboots for new kernel [20:33] haha [20:33] I get a warning if XS-Python-Version is there [20:33] change for pyversions, get another warning [20:33] * Laney head in hands [20:43] jbernard_: I just uploaded u-d-t [20:43] thanks for your fix [20:45] do i need a ffe for theme packages? [20:48] Laney: Can you look at LP 436082 [20:49] Launchpad bug 436082 in minicom "Fix FTBFS" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/436082 [20:49] sharms: in a bit [20:49] thanks [21:24] Hey guys, does anyone know about intltool? I'm still struggling with this regexp issue https://bugs.launchpad.net/intltool/+bug/436671 [21:24] Launchpad bug 436671 in intltool "intltool fails on reportedly bad regexp" [Undecided,New] [21:35] Laney: Use XS-Python-Version. It is at least common between both python-support an python-central. [21:35] ScottK: Alright I should revert that in u-d-t [21:35] cdbs shouldn't give that warning [21:36] Laney: Not a big deal. Just put it in bzr for next time. [21:36] yeah [21:36] Laney: Agreed. [21:38] pushed [21:39] Laney: awesome, no problmem [22:28] hyperair, geany broken with new libvte? [22:54] I'm pretty well convinced that the design theory behind the most recent LP release was, "Making useful information harder to find." [22:55] Any MOTUs who could look at Tahoe-LAFS? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/tahoe-lafs [23:37] Zhenech: is it? wfm [23:38] hyperair, on sid it is [23:38] hmm is that so [23:38] 0:03 evgeni@atae ~ % geany [23:38] zsh: segmentation fault geany [23:38] ouch [23:38] gdb yells about libvte [23:38] hmm [23:38] i wonder if recompiling would work.. [23:39] I bet [23:39] iirc geany uses some dlopen black magic with libvte [23:43] building :) [23:43] this problem exists with gedit too :) [23:47] Hello everyone! [23:49] hyperair, nope, rebuild does not help [23:51] Zhenech: figures. [23:51] Zhenech: file a bug with a gdb trace please [23:52] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=548350 [23:52] Debian bug 548350 in gnome-terminal "segmentation fault" [Grave,Open] [23:52] ah [23:52] there it is [23:52] is it in geany? [23:52] nah, libvte9 [23:52] geany just using it and crashing [23:52] no i meant is the bug set to affect geany? [23:53] no wait, libvte is the one that broke eh [23:53] not geany? [23:53] well then that's fine [23:53] wait for it to be fixed =p [23:54] funnily bug speaks about broken xfce-terminal [23:54] but mine still works XD [23:54] memo: dont close it the next couple o daus