[09:19] tormod , tseliot i get the crash with the x-updates package too [09:19] mac_v: with -ati and the new mesa? [09:20] yeah [09:20] * mac_v checking logs [09:21] tseliot: what/where am i supposed to look for? [09:22] the xorg log has no time :( [09:22] can you ssh into that machine from another one, reproduce the crash and have a look at the log and at dmesg? [09:23] * mac_v has only 1 linux system [09:23] * mac_v also not an ssh noob ;) [09:23] also a* [12:32] tjaalton, sorry, I did that thing where I ask a question and then drive around rural saskatchewan for two days [12:33] re: power management patches, I lost track of the bug number, as the notification stopped showing up even though the display still went in and out of power saving just like it has been. [12:34] The laptop had been on for a while though, I'll update and reboot again; basically ignore me until I post back on that bug saying it's still not working :p [12:39] we know it's not working [20:36] hi [20:36] Do you currently see some splash on karmic shutdown? === _CShadowRun is now known as CShadowRun