[03:27] grr, what happened to pykde4 api docs? [03:32] derr [03:33] fyi: api.kde.org has the updated api docs for pykde4 under 4.3. It is different, so don't get lost, under the 'Table of Contents' there is a link for 'Class Reference' right before the FAQ [04:29] nixternal: i heard a rumour that you're here in columbus, oh [04:29] really? [04:30] you know a lot of people were sms'ing me, calling me, direct messages via twitter and identi.ca, as well as messaging me on IRC asking where I was at [04:33] oh? [04:36] ya, I am not in Columbus, I am where all of the cool people are, Chicago! [04:39] nixternal: Snow yet? [04:39] I wish [04:40] soon though, I can feel it in the air [04:40] finally getting into the 30s at night [04:41] Damn KDE has a lot of packages. [04:41] you got that right [04:41] * ScottK is doing KDE 4.2.4 PPA -> Jaunty Backports like I said in his mail today. [04:42] So I get to upload all of them .... [04:42] oh boy that sounds like a lot of fun [04:43] That'd be one word for it. [04:43] Not the one I'd pick though. === human_blip_ is now known as human_blip [09:16] grumble. karmic didnt start x after the last update... [09:16] who broke it...? [09:21] If you're on x64, it may be kdebase-workspace related. If so, updating and upgrading should fix it. [12:32] hello, i updated to latest kdm in karmic [12:32] but kdm wont start now [12:34] cbr: amd64 arch? There was a problem which has already been fixed. You may want to try update and upgrade again if you haven't. [12:34] i38 [12:34] 6 [12:34] Oh, no idea then. Sorry. [12:35] You sure it is kdm? Does "startx" work? [12:38] kdm main process terminated with status 1 [12:38] and then it respawns it liek 10 times in 1 second [12:38] and then says "kdm respawning too fast, stopped" [12:39] Ok, I have no idea. Sorry. [12:39] startx starts openbox [12:40] Then it definitively sounds like a kdm problem yes. [12:40] it could be Bug 437067 [12:40] Launchpad bug 437067 in kdebase-workspace "kdm does not start (upstart) - error in /etc/init/kdm.conf" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/437067 [12:42] uhm.. [12:44] yup [12:44] that fixes stuff [14:18] * ScottK suspects nixternal's upstartification of KDM. [14:19] Riddell: I did upload almost all of KDE 4.2.4 to jaunty-backports. I'm just waiting for the last of it to depwait, I'll upload kde4libs, and we'll be off and running. [15:18] ryanakca: Would you be able to put an announcement on the web site later today that KDE 4.2.4 for Jaunty has moved from PPA to jaunty-backports (not yet though) === santiago-pgsql is now known as foursixnine === foursixnine is now known as santiago-ve === santiago-ve is now known as foursixnine === foursixnine is now known as santiago-ve [16:33] hi [16:33] i've just updated karmic 9.10 from the repo... [16:34] as the result X no longer start [16:34] You aren't the first to report this issue, but there is no resolution at the moment. [16:34] * ScottK wonders if Riddell noticed... [16:34] the init.d script say that i should use start kdm to start it but it doesn't work [16:35] no way ? even manually ? [16:35] atm i started kde using startx [16:35] but i've got some issue with it [16:35] Not that I know of, but I haven't had a chance to look into it in detail. [16:35] ok [16:36] is there a change that a later update will fix or it's better to reinstall it ? [16:36] It is almost certain a later update will fix it. [16:37] ok so i can wait [16:37] thank you === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: KDM broken - don't update if you haven't | Brr, Beta Freeze, Feature and UI Freeze in effect | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | We need paperKuts! https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts [16:40] any work around for the kdm problem in karmic? [16:41] ScottK: maybe this is Riddell & nixternal's upstart script? [16:41] * yuriy notes not to update today [16:41] yuriy: I'm reasonably certain it is, but I've no idea how to fix it. [16:41] If it's the bug mentioned earlier, symlinking /usr/sbin/kdm to /usr/bin/kdm should work until the fix gets propagated. [16:42] Zorix: Not that we know of. Maybe download the old KDM from launchpad and reinstall it. [16:42] OK. [16:42] Zorix and davidef1986 ^^ suggested workaround [16:43] see [16:43] l'll test on next reboot ;) [16:44] KDM broken? [16:44] yes [16:44] ScottK, ok good idea i will look for the previous kdm package, thanks [16:44] fooey [16:44] Launchpad bug 437067 in kdebase-workspace "kdm does not start (upstart) - error in /etc/init/kdm.conf" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/437067 [16:44] Launchpad bug 437067 in kdebase-workspace "kdm does not start (upstart) - error in /etc/init/kdm.conf" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/437067 [16:50] Riddell: Would you please accept kde4libs in jaunty-backports. LP is too broken to do it through the web UI [16:51] ok [16:51] Riddell: ya, kdm is broken :) /me thinks it could be the 'exec kdm' part as that is noticibly different from my script [16:52] fyi: you can just use 'sudo kdm' for the time being to get in [16:52] uploading the fix on bug 437067 [16:52] Launchpad bug 437067 in kdebase-workspace "kdm does not start (upstart) - error in /etc/init/kdm.conf" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/437067 [16:52] or startx, or whatever other way you like to get in :) [16:52] Riddell: I also noticed all the extra whitespace at the end of the lines in kdm.conf [16:53] I just edited my kdm.conf to log back in [16:54] startx doesn't seem to allow the sound to work [16:56] modification of kdm.conf to correct the path fixed it [16:56] thanks guys [16:57] Riddell and nixternal: I was thinking if we set up a separate LP project for our PPA builds, then people could file bugs related to PPA packages there. [16:57] +1 [16:58] Zorix: what path needed fixing? I just woke up so it didn't stick out to me :) [16:58] /usr/sbin -> /usr/bin in the first line [16:58] Riddell: Thanks (for kde4libs) [16:59] I looked right past that === santiago-ve is now known as foursixnine [17:02] yea thats it [17:09] Riddell: did you get rid of the "HEED_DEFAULT_DISPLAY_MANAGER=true" line as well? [17:09] we don't need that [17:11] ScottK: +1 on ppa project [17:13] speaking of ppa bugs, nixternal do you know what needs to be removed for bug 415237? [17:13] Launchpad bug 415237 in kde4libs "Can't report KDE bugs" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/415237 [17:14] yuriy: yes, but it was decided that we would use apport and redirect all bugs to LP instead of KDE [17:14] it is a khelpmenu.cpp hack in kdelibs [17:14] kubuntu_51 is the patch iirc [17:15] nixternal: but this is on Jaunty [17:15] oh, then you can remove that kubuntu_51 lp integration patch [17:16] nixternal: is none of that in the regular jaunty packages? [17:16] though I don't know if you want to remove all of it, because it also contains the stuff for the translation menu item under help [17:17] if you have a link to the .dsc file, I can fix it and upload it if you would like [17:17] also i'd looked at that patch and it looks to me like it just removes the menu item [17:17] nvm there is the code [17:17] hrmm, i wonder if that patch is different than what is in karmic then [17:17] ok, groovy [17:18] ya, I commented out the lines I replaced, so it is an easy fix [17:19] is this in bzr? [17:19] so many tools to (re)learn [17:19] for karmic it is [17:19] hehe [17:19] ya, I need to learn git now it seems [17:19] the world is switching to git these days [17:21] OK, registered a project: https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa [17:21] Gotta run. I'll work on getting it set up more later. [17:26] nixternal: no although I don't think it does anything [17:26] I don't think much of that script does anything [17:26] it doesn't :) so it can go [17:26] Riddell: if it doesn't do much of anything, then the old /etc/init.d/kdm didn't do much of anything [17:27] if it doesn't do much of anything, it should be cut down for unnoticeably faster startup :) [17:28] so it can be 'exec kdm' and that's it probably, with of course making sure that kdm is the default dm [17:29] debian has all this @@@ToBeReplaced stuff which we don't, and I can't remember why we don't, if it's deliberate or accidental [17:30] Riddell: http://paste.ubuntu.com/278852/ [17:31] * nixternal notes that pastebinit is awesome! [17:36] that works great :) [17:51] building kde4libs expecting it to fail, what fun [17:51] well that didn't get very far [17:52] how do i add repositories to pbuilder? [17:56] oh figured it out [18:04] ok no, this isn't quite working [18:04] how do i add both the ppa and -updates? [18:04] for pbuilder [18:13] yuriy: sudo pbuilder login --save-after-login, edit /etc/apt/sources.list; apt-get update; control-d is what I do [18:13] nixternal: I'd like to find out why we don't have the @@@ToBeRepaced stuff from Debian in our kdmrc first [18:13] I thought we did, at least in the past we did === Quintasan__ is now known as Quintasan [18:16] Riddell: ping [18:21] why does vim require libsqlite o_O [18:30] thanks Riddell looks like it's working [19:05] Quintasan: hi [19:06] Riddell: my parents wanted to know how I'm going to stay there, do I need to bring my father or mother along? [19:07] Quintasan: sponsored guests (and of course there's no guarantee you'll get sponsorship that's still being worked on) get a bed in a hotel [19:08] I don't know if canonical has a policy on minors, it's up to you who you bring along as far as I care, how old are you? [19:08] 16 [19:09] ryanakca brought his Dad to UDS Barcelona. [19:09] which in Scotland is the age of legal emancipation so you can jolly well do what you like, the culture and law may be different in the US I don't know [19:09] The culture is definitely different (18). [19:09] * ScottK pleads ignorance of the law. [19:11] well, I will talk to my father first, and to my brother then [19:11] the other person would have to pay travel, food and accomodation themselves [19:11] Quintasan: you should sign up at summit.ubuntu.com if you havn't already [19:13] I should fill out the sponsorship request form? [19:13] yes [19:15] The biggest problem now will be getting visa, my sis went to USA few years ago and she told me it take even three month to get a visa :/ [19:15] may take* [19:18] people just do not listen [19:19] ? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [20:17] nixternal: I made https://launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa and put the Ninjas in charge of it. === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Brr, Beta Freeze, Feature and UI Freeze in effect | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | We need paperKuts! https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts [22:30] ScottK: topic change means you recon KDM got fixed? [22:31] Riddell: I'm assuming. [22:31] I waited for your fix to build and get published. [22:31] anyone out there installed it to check? [22:31] Not that I've heard. [22:32] saturday night, they're all out partying, geeks weren't like this in my day [22:46] Riddell: missing you in the other channel for dot review ;-) [22:46] http://dot.kde.org/2009/09/26/what-i-did-my-summer-holiday <- finally got it done - let me know when you are editing it as i asked richmoore too [22:55] Nightrose: Nice. I assume this is the one you said to wait for. [22:55] ScottK: heh nope - that's for the dot [22:55] Oh. [22:55] i didn't want you to wait for a specific post [22:55] Still nice post. OK [22:55] more a general thing [22:55] thanks :) [22:56] * Nightrose has to kick some asses though for not playing nice despite promising to... [22:59] hah! actually I don't [22:59] * Nightrose goes and gives out cookies instead [23:00] \o/