[00:12] <ScottK> uni4dfx: The policy was set by Ubuntu, so #ubuntu-bugs is the place to discuss it.
[00:13] <uni4dfx> sorry to annoy you here :)
[02:11] <plars> there is no activity log link in the bug reports now? was this a conscious decision?
[02:13] <wgrant> plars: Bug #436818
[02:13] <plars> wgrant: ah, thanks
[02:32] <bjsnider> having difficulty dputting to ppa, getting errno 111
[02:33] <wgrant> bjsnider: Indeed, the FTP server is dead.
[02:33] <bjsnider> wow, really?
[02:33] <bjsnider> dead?
[02:33] <wgrant> It crashes sometimes.
[02:33] <bjsnider> that would interfere with the ftp upload, without doubt
[02:38] <mdz> I don't seem to be able to mark private bugs as public anymore
[02:38] <mdz> the "(!)" icon is visible while the page is loading, but then disappears
[02:38] <wgrant> mdz: Use !WebKit for now.
[02:41] <wgrant> bjsnider: Fixed now.
[02:41] <mdz> wgrant, LP bug or WebKit bug?
[02:41] <wgrant> mdz: LP.
[02:43] <wgrant> mdz: bug #397457
[02:56] <cyberix> I cannot figure out how to report bugs in 3.0
[02:56] <wgrant> cyberix: You're looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/, aren't you?
[02:56] <cyberix> Well, I have been bouncing around all over the site
[02:57] <wgrant> cyberix: https://launchpad.net/PROJECT wasn't one of the places you ended up?
[02:58] <cyberix> I go to https://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[02:58] <cyberix> I click on "Report a bug"
[02:58] <cyberix> I end up at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[02:58] <wgrant> Did you read that page?
[02:58] <cyberix> I scimmed it trough
[02:58] <wgrant> (this is an Ubuntu-specific thing, nothing to do with LP 3.0)
[02:58] <RenatoSilva> translations export are said to be daily, but they're not being. Not even after pushing changes to the po and pot files
[02:59] <cyberix> It seems I need to make some software crash so I get to reporting a bug
[02:59] <wgrant> cyberix: That page thoroughly describes all methods of filing an Ubuntu bug, in order of preference.
[02:59] <wgrant> cyberix: Only one method on that page requires it....
[03:00] <RenatoSilva> also fyi milestone deletion is not working
[03:00] <cyberix> I was going to file a [needs-packaging] bug
[03:01] <cyberix> I cannot see which category that would fit in
[03:01] <wgrant> cyberix: Yes, that is a problem. See the "Filing bugs at Launchpad.net" section.
[03:01] <wgrant> Again, this is an Ubuntu policy decision, and not anything to do with the LP 3.0 UI changes.
[03:02] <cyberix> So I have to link the bug to some existing package
[03:02] <cyberix> interesting
[03:03] <wgrant> No.
[03:03] <wgrant> Ah, it doesn't say how to avoid it. Omit the '+source/PACKAGENAME/'
[03:11] <cyberix> wgrant: I fixed that
[03:12] <cyberix> wgrant: Thanks for patience
[03:12] <wgrant> cyberix: np
[03:46] <MTecknology> spm: You around?
[03:46] <wgrant> spm: Hopefully not at lunch time on Saturday.
[03:46] <wgrant> Er.
[03:46] <MTecknology> wgrant: maybe you?
[03:46] <wgrant> MTecknology: ^^
[03:46] <MTecknology> wgrant: can I forward you an interesting email?
[03:47] <MTecknology> entirely LP related
[03:47] <wgrant> MTecknology: If you so desire, and it is not enticing me to increase the size of my body parts.
[03:47] <MTecknology> wgrant: it's along that line though
[03:49] <MTecknology> it might just be somebody infected w/ a virus trying to reply to every email addy - which is why I think it might be good for you to be aware of
[03:49] <wgrant> MTecknology: You mean it's spam? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion if the user hasn't been killed yet.
[03:49] <wgrant> I don't see what me being aware does.
[03:50] <MTecknology> wgrant: I know the user is fine - I just wanted to say something about it - just noticed the part about an update to a deactivated project
[04:26] <Peng_> One of my mirrored branches is in a slightly odd state: 1.) It failed to mirror last time -- network issue or somesuch. 2.) It says "Updating branch...", "processing changes" and all. It seems broken branches do that now. 3.) The given repository format is out-of-date. It changed recently. https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mnordhoff/loggerhead/pretty-url
[04:26] <Peng_> Is there anything bug-worthy about that?
[04:29] <wgrant> Peng_: 2) is known.
[04:29] <wgrant> I think 3) should fix itself when the mirror happens, but I'm not entirely sure.
[04:33] <Peng_> wgrant: <3
[04:34] <Peng_> The thing is, the repo format changed before the last mirror. But it was 1.9 -> 2a, so it was affected by that bug that was recently fixed.
[04:34] <Peng_> So it might take a while for the format change to sink in. Shrug.
[04:35] <Peng_> Pizza! Bye. :P
[04:50] <ScottK> wgrant: You wouldn't happen to know if there's anyone around that could look into why suddenly I can't accept packages anymore via the LP UI (suddenly like in the last 10 minute)?
[04:50] <KIAaze> hi, I'm getting the following error when trying to upload with dput: Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused. Any ideas?
[04:51] <ScottK> OK, Got one.  Maybe kdebase-workspace is just too big.
[04:52] <KIAaze> ?
[04:53] <ScottK> KIAaze: Different conversation, not related to you.
[05:02] <KIAaze> to be able to upload to my PPA, I just need a GPG key registered at launchpad, no?
[05:06] <alkisg1> Older builds are deleted from launchpad, right? E.g. a ppa now has "package 1.5", and 3 months before it had "package 1.3", could I somehow get the binaries for package 1.3?
[06:02] <Peng_> Am I a terrible person if I use OpenSSH's "ControlMaster" to leave a connection open to LP all the time?
[06:15] <alkisg> I can copy packages from the Ubuntu primary archive to my PPA from here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+copy-packages?field.series_filter=karmic&field.name_filter=PACKAGE_YOU_WANT
[06:15] <alkisg> Can I also copy packages from jaunty-proposed or jaunty-backports?
[07:19] <pro-rsoft> my rules file's "install" should install into something like $(CURDIR)/debian/tmp/usr/include/ right?
[07:19] <pro-rsoft> cause I've just uploaded a source package but I notice that none of the built files get packaged
[08:41] <pro-rsoft> is it possible to cancel a build?
[09:07] <KIAaze> just wanted to say I solved my upload problem: the .dput.cf file was incorrect. Luckily, I had an old backup somewhere.
[09:08] <KIAaze> it now looks liks this: [launchpad-login]
[09:08] <KIAaze> fqdn = ppa.launchpad.net
[09:08] <KIAaze> method = ftp
[09:08] <KIAaze> incoming = ~launchpad-login/ubuntu
[09:08] <KIAaze> login = anonymous
[09:08] <KIAaze> allow_unsigned_uploads = 0
[09:40] <wgrant> pro-rsoft: No, its not possible to cancel a build.
[09:41] <pro-rsoft> ok, thanks
[09:43] <KIAaze> it seems launchpad has changed a lot recently. Is it now impossible to download packages from a PPA directly?
[09:44] <KIAaze> ah ok
[09:44] <KIAaze> view package details
[10:23] <dreamcat4> Hello. I want to add my project's mailinglist automatically for any bug notifications
[10:24] <dreamcat4> but would like to make sure they don't see my user account's emails about other things
[10:24] <dreamcat4> ?
[10:25] <wgrant> dreamcat4: Why do you want the emails to go to the mailing list? I find it's generally a better idea to let people subscribe themselves.
[10:25] <dreamcat4> because it's where we discuss our bugs
[10:25] <wgrant> Don't you discuss your bugs on the bug?
[10:26] <dreamcat4> we just want others to see a new bug come in (who aren't on launchpad but subscribe to highload-php-en mailinglist)
[10:27] <dreamcat4> otherwise they generally wouldn't see it
[10:27] <wgrant> Ah, so this isn't a Launchpad mailing list?
[10:27] <dreamcat4> we aren't 100% launchpad
[10:27] <dreamcat4> it's a google group + nginx forum
[10:27] <wgrant> I see.
[10:27] <dreamcat4> (and is well established)
[10:28] <wgrant> Is the mailing list the contact address for a team?
[10:28] <dreamcat4> (so i can't go around just asking everyone to get a launchpad account)
[10:28] <dreamcat4> i dont know but ill go & check right now
[10:29] <dreamcat4> its not yet been set by the team owner
[10:29] <dreamcat4> https://launchpad.net/~php-fpm
[10:30] <wgrant> If it was, an admin of the team could just subscribe the team to all bug notifications.
[10:30] <dreamcat4> that's great. thank you
[10:31] <wgrant> (at https://launchpad.net/php-fpm/+subscribe)
[10:38] <dreamcat4> have now emailed the group admin with these instructions, thank you
[10:38] <dreamcat4> bye
[14:28] <pro-rsoft> how to force dput to upload my orig.tar.gz? it doesn't, and lp complains about that
[14:28] <av`> pro-rsoft, which error do you get?
[14:29] <av`> I don't see the point in 'forcing' to dput a orig. file
[14:29] <av`> pro-rsoft, if you did things properly you should see it in your .changes file,
[14:30] <pro-rsoft> Rejected:
[14:30] <pro-rsoft> Unable to find artoolkit_2.72.1+20070927.orig.tar.gz in upload or distribution.
[14:30] <pro-rsoft> Files specified in DSC are broken or missing, skipping package unpack verification.
[14:30] <av`> pro-rsoft, wrong debuild
[14:30] <pro-rsoft> hm, what should I do to fix it then?
[14:31] <av`> #ubuntu-motu is your channel now :)
[14:31] <wgrant> pro-rsoft: Give the '-sa' option to debuild.
[14:31] <ScottK> av`: Not particularly, unless he's trying to upload to the Ubuntu archive.
[14:32] <av`> ScottK, debuild flags are not the right things to discuss on #launchpad, I guess
[14:32] <ScottK> av`: PPA packaging isn't the right thing to discuss on #ubuntu-motu.
[14:32] <av`> ScottK, debuild is not strictly related to PPA, it's a general packaging tool
[14:33] <av`> ScottK, I can use debuild also outside PPA
[14:33] <ScottK> Right, but #ubuntu-motu isn't the channel for everyone in the work that feels like using Debian packaging tools.
[14:33] <av`> don't know which channel would be fine for such issues then
[14:34] <ScottK> It's a problem that the Launchpad team doesn't support their users then.
[14:34] <av`> yep
[14:35] <av`> pro-rsoft, start doing your work on a clean tree and follow wgrant's suggestion
[14:35] <pro-rsoft> wgrant, thanks!
[14:35] <pro-rsoft> this works
[14:48] <cyberix> I read about PPA-pages being split to a user page, and a developer page
[14:49] <cyberix> How do I find both of these?
[17:13] <picklesworth> So, is it just me or does anyone else get pointed to this help page upon clicking the "Report a bug" button from Ubuntu's Launchpad page? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[17:20] <ScottK> picklesworth: It's on purpose.
[17:22] <picklesworth> Ah... I guess reading the help page will help
[17:27] <pwnguin> https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/83874
[17:27] <pwnguin> how did that get marked solved?
[17:42] <ulysses__> hello
[17:43] <ulysses__> I want to report a bug in Ubuntu, but the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug redirects me to the Ubuntu Wiki (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs)
[17:52] <ulysses__> is this a bug, or this is a feature?
[17:53] <LarstiQ> ulysses__: feature
[17:54] <ulysses__> ...
[17:54] <ulysses__> thanks
[17:54] <LarstiQ> ulysses__: Ubuntu has a bug reporting procedure they want followed
[17:57] <ulysses__> so then I should live with them, however it is very strange
[17:57] <LarstiQ> why is that strange?
[17:59] <ulysses__> before launchpad 3.0 released, I opened the https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug page, choosed the right package from the search form, and then wrote the reprt
[17:59]  * LarstiQ doesn't know ubuntu enough to say what changed
[18:00] <ulysses__> not an Ubuntu bug, it's in the kubuntu-docs package, some small mistake only:)
[18:00]  * ulysses__ translates kubuntu-docs to hungarian
[18:04] <napsy> Hello. I've imported my project from github. Later I cloned the branch from launchpad using bzr but now I can't push. I get a "readonly transport" eror. Is this fixable without re-cloning the branch?
[18:04] <LarstiQ> napsy: yes
[18:04] <napsy> how?
[18:04] <LarstiQ> napsy: you're likely trying to push to http://, instead of bzr+ssh:// or sftp://
[18:05] <napsy> Using saved push location: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/gsfm/trunk/
[18:05] <napsy> this is what bzr push prints out
[18:06] <napsy> I did set up my launchpad username and imported my ssh public key
[18:06] <LarstiQ> ah
[18:06] <LarstiQ> ~vcs-imports is not writable to your user
[18:06] <napsy> hum so what can I do now?
[18:07] <LarstiQ> napsy: you can push to lp:~napsy/gsfm/trunk instead
[18:08] <napsy> cool it works
[18:08] <napsy> But I got this "Created new stacked branch referring to /~vcs-imports/gsfm/trunk"
[18:08] <napsy> what does it mean?
[18:08] <LarstiQ> napsy: do you intend to switch development from github to launchpad? Or should vcs-imports continue pulling across?
[18:08] <napsy> I intend to switch to launchpad
[18:09] <LarstiQ> napsy: that means it hasn't uploaded _all_ revisions to ~napsy/gsfm/trunk, but instead it knows to look in ~vcs-imports/gsfm/trunk for revisions it doesn't have itself
[18:09] <LarstiQ> napsy: sorta like hardlinking
[18:09] <napsy> ok
[18:10] <napsy> how do I now unlink my branch from vcs-imports?
[18:11] <LarstiQ> good question
[18:11]  * LarstiQ needs to find a webbrowser
[18:12] <LarstiQ> napsy: there is a --no-stack on bzr push I think for creating branches
[18:13] <napsy> hm ok hm
[18:14] <napsy> I have now two branches, one is trunk and the other is luka-napotnik/gsfm/trunk with my latest code
[18:14] <napsy> can I delete the trunk branch and rename the other one?
[18:15] <LarstiQ> napsy: yup
[18:18] <napsy> hum apperently I can't delete trunk
[18:20] <LarstiQ> you should be able to afaik
[18:20] <LarstiQ> but you can at least rename it?
[18:22] <napsy> Yes I can rename the branch. But I want only one official lp:gsfm/trunk branc not "personal" branch
[18:24] <LarstiQ> right
[18:24] <LarstiQ> the official trunk is managed by setting the series focus
[18:24] <LarstiQ> you can select a different branch for it there
[19:27] <napsy> if I /part
[19:57] <\u03b5> is there a place to give feedback on lp's new look?
[19:58] <ScottK> \u03b5: https://launchpad.net/launchpad/+filebug
[19:58] <\u03b5> ah, hm
[21:18] <Tack> Is keyserver.ubuntu.com dead for anyone else, or is it just me?
[21:19] <ulysses__> http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/keyserver.ubuntu.com
[21:19] <Tack> Is downforeveryoneorjustme.com down for everyone else, or is it just me?
[21:19] <Tack> Kidding, great site.
[21:20] <Tack> Anyone here in a position to fix? :)
[21:26] <ScottK> Tack: You can use subkeys.pgp.net.  Ubuntu keys are mirrored there.
[21:27] <Tack> ScottK: Ah perfect, thanks.
[22:20] <SiDi> hi there
[22:20] <SiDi> i cant seem to be able to report a bug in an ubuntu package in the new launchpad
[22:20] <SiDi> it keeps redirecting me to the wiki
[22:20] <ulysses__> a moment
[22:21] <ulysses__> it was changed, so you should open this link: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/PACKAGENAME/+filebug?no-redirect
[22:21] <ulysses__> replace PACKAGENAME with the name of the package, what you want to report
[22:22] <SiDi> ulysses__: thanks
[22:22] <SiDi> thats quite a weird practice, though
[22:22] <ulysses__> yeah, I find it also strange:P
[22:23] <cyberix> It will probably help with the amount of incomming bugs
[22:23] <cyberix> That might drop to zero :-D
[22:23] <ulysses__> :D
[22:23] <Amaranth> SiDi: The idea is to use ubuntu-bug to file bug reports
[22:24] <ulysses__> and the Kubuntu users?:P
[22:24] <ScottK> ulysses__: The same.
[22:25] <SiDi> Amaranth: i dont wanna have to use ubuntu-bug or whatever to report a bug in a package for which i propose a patch :)
[22:25] <Amaranth> SiDi: That is one place it falls over
[22:25] <SiDi> and assuming users will report bugs FROM ubuntu is in my opinion quite wrong
[22:25] <Amaranth> SiDi: We use bugs too much for other workflow
[22:26] <Amaranth> SiDi: Your situation would be better served by a merge request for a packaging branch, for example
[22:26] <SiDi> well, packaging errors / mistakes are for instance definately bugs in packages
[22:26] <SiDi> Amaranth: this also means setup a branch, which requires an open port 22 on my network, + proposing a merge for a project using its own git repo...
[22:27] <SiDi> that sounds overoveroverkill to me, all i need to do is to send the patch to the package maintainers and to make sure its tracked somewhere on the web
[22:27] <Amaranth> Yeah, no one actually uses the merge request tool in ubuntu
[22:28] <Amaranth> When I tried my branches got forgotten until I filed bugs, linked them to the branch, and assigned them to the people I wanted to review them
[22:29] <SiDi> i never managed to successfully merge a branch via lp
[22:29] <SiDi> its just simpler to manually merge and then commit....
[22:29] <SiDi> and honnestly, there still are valid use cases for attaching patches
[22:31] <Amaranth> SiDi: Just for curiosity sake, what package are you trying to fix?
[22:33] <SiDi> Amaranth: xfce4-power-manager today
[22:33] <SiDi> i wrote a patch to allow it to use our custom notification-battery icons for its notification bubbles
[22:33] <SiDi> but i sometimes have to file bugs against packages for xfce4-volumed and exaile too
[22:34] <SiDi> that change will really not be practical
[23:45] <Fly-Man-> Morning
[23:45] <Fly-Man-> How long does a langiage translation request usually take ?
[23:45] <Fly-Man-> a one time import from a BZR tree
[23:45] <Fly-Man-> laanguage*
[23:45] <Fly-Man-> language*
[23:45]  * Fly-Man- blames the drink he's having
[23:46] <mwhudson> i'm not sure, probably ~a day?
[23:47] <Fly-Man-> Is there also a admin here that can delete a branch ?
[23:47] <Fly-Man-> https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/fusionforge/trunk
[23:48] <Fly-Man-> I managed to get a working transaction from bzr now ...
[23:48] <mwhudson> Fly-Man-: yeah, i can delete that
[23:49] <Fly-Man-> mwhudson: Thank you :)
[23:49] <mwhudson> Fly-Man-: it's gone
[23:49] <Fly-Man-> :)
[23:49] <Fly-Man-> Now that other one is a mirrored one
[23:49] <Fly-Man-> would I need to make a new branch for the export of the translations ?
[23:54] <Fly-Man-> Hmm
[23:54] <Fly-Man-> that's fast :D
[23:54] <Fly-Man-> It already found all the files in the branches
[23:58] <ripps> Is there going to be dedicated ppa launchpad bug reports? I maintain alot of packages in my gmpc-trunk team and I'd like to make easier to pass bugs to upstream