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* ccheney got his pc put together and running burnin now05:26
ccheneymemtest takes forever on this system :-\05:32
* ccheney needs to get memtest86+ 4.00 into karmic05:33
ccheneysupposed to work better with the new chips and be much faster too05:33
ccheneywow win7 autodetects drivers on first boot if you swap a drive into a new machine, none of that old xp bluescreen mess05:43
* ccheney is using it to do burnin testing05:43
AmaranthWow, that's actually pretty impressive05:47
AmaranthWin7 also doesn't lose all your work if the display server crashes :)05:47
ccheneyit was perfect on the second reboot, i was impressed they actually fixed something05:47
ccheneynot quite as good as ubuntu (which works on first boot) but pretty good05:48
Amaranthccheney: Does it boot in some sort of safe mode the first time then?05:49
ccheneyyea05:51
ccheneywell i think so anyway, it booted into low res mode, but didn't say it was safe mode, and begin detecting hardware immediately05:52
ccheneywow the i7 860 has a high max temp (100C) its hitting 73C with linpack with a good hsf06:01
ccheneylooks like i should have plenty of room though with 27C before hitting max06:02
ccheneymemtest86+ 4.00 seems a lot faster06:32
* ccheney may be wrong though it claims only 25% done at test 6 now06:33
ccheneyit has fixed the reserved memory area that it couldn't test its now only 200K on my system06:34
ccheneyiirc on one of my systems it shows up as ~ 300MB and was > 100MB with this one with old memtest06:34
mac_vhmm... does update manager prompt for password *twice* for anyone else?06:49
Amaranthdoes pidgin get installed for anyone else? :)06:55
Amaranthccheney: all intel processors since the core duo have a 100C max afaik06:56
AmaranthMine usually idle around 40C and hit 80C under full load06:56
mac_vAmaranth: yeah why is pidgin getting installed... i thought rick said empathy was default07:00
Amaranthmac_v: seb128 added a Recommends: pidgin-libnotify to libpurple0 instead of pidgin07:00
mac_vhehe!07:00
ccheneyAmaranth: my c2d (conroe) reports 90C07:05
ccheneyAmaranth: working in memtest at 4.30GHz so far, will be working on it for a while i imagine07:21
ccheney4.41GHz, whee07:24
* ccheney doubts its stable enough to get into win707:24
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LaneyIf I keep skipping tracks, the notifications queue up instead of cutting in as before09:52
Laneyanyone else seeing this?09:52
tgpraveenwhich is meant to be the final GDM theme? http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu910finalartwork-large_005.jpg or http://i37.tinypic.com/wraxxl.jpg?     why doesn't it loook like the mockups which were so beautiful like http://lh3.ggpht.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/SrwNNZ_JEYI/AAAAAAAADM8/oZ5p_A84zN8/s1600-h/image%5B7%5D.png09:59
Laneywhere does software-center get its screenshots from?11:20
didrocksLaney: IIRC, there was a blog post two weeks ago about that on planet ubuntu11:21
Laneydidrocks: know who from?11:22
Laneyit looks like screenshots.d.n but I'm seeing a missing one11:22
didrocksLaney: http://bloc.eurion.net/?p=35511:25
didrocksso, http://screenshots.debian.net/11:25
Laneydidrocks: check out smuxi11:26
Laneyit has a screenshot on that website but not in s-c11:26
chrisccoulsonhey Amaranth - sorry, I didn't get a chance to get back to you about your compiz workaround last night13:04
chrisccoulsonit's working anyway:)13:04
chrisccoulson(and I see it's uploaded too now)13:04
tgpraveen4is there a do-not-distrub mode planned for karmic for session-indicator?15:29
tgpraveen4cassidy: kenvandine do the sounds now work in karmic for empathy like when new message arrives or someone calls etc?15:44
tgpraveen4found it bug #40048515:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 400485 in ubuntu-sounds "Empathy sounds not in default ubuntu theme" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/40048515:58
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switchgirrlhi17:02
switchgirrlwhat do i need to get a strawberry imac to work?17:02
switchgirrlie on ubuntu / xubuntu17:03
mac_v!topic | switchgirrl:17:05
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mac_vswitchgirrl: #Ubuntu for help17:05
c_kornwhat is the start script of indicator-applet supposed to do ? sh -c "sleep 60 && python /usr/share/gnome-panel/add-indicator-applet.py"17:31
c_kornwhy does it sleep for a minute ?17:31
chrisccoulsonc_korn - if you haven't figured it out already that script adds the indicator-applet to existing panel config's on upgrade19:19
chrisccoulsonit sleeps so that loading the python interpreter doesn't slow down your log in every time19:20
c_kornaha, ok. I was just looking for some explanation why indicator-session-applet crashes after login for me. so I stumbled over this.19:22
c_kornit is this bug. I attached a video: ttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/43618119:24
c_kornhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/43618119:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 436181 in indicator-applet "Indicator-applet-session crashed" [Undecided,New]19:24
chrisccoulsonc_korn - yeah, i see that crash sometimes as well19:26
chrisccoulsonthe lack of assertion message is a pain but it doesn't mean that you can't still look at the backtrace though19:27
chrisccoulsonyou can apport-unpack the crash file to get the backtrace19:27
c_kornah, I will try that.19:27
chrisccoulsonand if there are missing symbols, just install the missing packages and run the coredump through GDB to get a new backtrace19:28
chrisccoulsonyou'll still miss the assertion message, but the stacktrace might be almost enough to have some idea where it crashes19:28
c_kornfine, I think ted is very interested in a backtrace19:28
chrisccoulsonc_korn - i've got a partial backtrace here19:29
chrisccoulsoni suppose i should try generating a better one from the coredump i've got too, but i just haven't had enough time yet19:29
c_kornwhere is the report file located ?19:32
chrisccoulson/var/crash19:32
c_kornfine, now I need these missing symbols19:39
c_kornI do not think the applet has a dbg package19:39
chrisccoulsonc_korn - the symbol packages are here: "deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com karmic main restricted universe multiverse"19:42
chrisccoulson(thats for your sources.list19:42
chrisccoulson)19:42
c_kornthere are debugging symbols for each package ?19:43
chrisccoulsonc_korn - yeah, the debugging symbols are stripped at build time by pkg-create-dbgsym, and put in to a separate repository19:46
c_kornoh, if I knew that it would have saved me a lot of time.19:46
c_kornok, now there is something seriously broken here: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/25771/screenshot_002_GaQd0K.png19:57
chrisccoulsonc_korn - that looks pretty broken20:04
chrisccoulsontried restarting the panel?20:04
c_kornI restarted karmic. fixed it.20:05
c_kornchrisccoulson: apport does not create a backtrace any more20:18
c_kornam I doing something wrong? http://pastebin.com/d117fbf5020:20
chrisccoulsonc_korn - i'm getting that too20:20
chrisccoulsoni'm trying to load the symbol files manually, but it still doesn't work20:21
chrisccoulsonso, i'm not sure what to do yet;)20:21
c_kornhm, maybe ted has an idea20:22
Amaranthchrisccoulson: yeah, mvo decided the best way to test it was to get it in the beta :)21:05
Amaranthccheney: get an OOo build going on that thing yet? :)21:07
mdkehi. Does anyone have any bright ideas about how to refer to the indicator-applet in documentation? i.e. "to lock your screen, click [...]"21:44
mdkeit was pretty easy when the thing was in the System menu, but now I'm struggling21:44
AmaranthNo idea, I just say "that thing by the clock with your name on it" :P21:44
mdkeyeah, I'm tempted...21:45
mdkebut then you need to add "unless you don't have it, in which case it's in the System menu"21:57
mdkegah21:58
AmaranthIt's the magically moving Lock Screen button22:02
ccheneyAmaranth: not yet22:18
mdkeok I've gone for "Click your username in the top panel and select ... "22:18
Amaranthmdke: Yeah, if they move it or remove it they probably don't need that bit of documentation anyway so that should cover it22:19
mdkeguess so22:19
jpdsCan't we just use Ctrl-Alt-L?22:30
mdkejpds: nice, yeah I think we should include that22:36
mdkejpds: but we still need to use the explanation for the shutdown and log out actions22:36

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