[05:26]  * ccheney got his pc put together and running burnin now
[05:32] <ccheney> memtest takes forever on this system :-\
[05:33]  * ccheney needs to get memtest86+ 4.00 into karmic
[05:33] <ccheney> supposed to work better with the new chips and be much faster too
[05:43] <ccheney> wow win7 autodetects drivers on first boot if you swap a drive into a new machine, none of that old xp bluescreen mess
[05:43]  * ccheney is using it to do burnin testing
[05:47] <Amaranth> Wow, that's actually pretty impressive
[05:47] <Amaranth> Win7 also doesn't lose all your work if the display server crashes :)
[05:47] <ccheney> it was perfect on the second reboot, i was impressed they actually fixed something
[05:48] <ccheney> not quite as good as ubuntu (which works on first boot) but pretty good
[05:49] <Amaranth> ccheney: Does it boot in some sort of safe mode the first time then?
[05:51] <ccheney> yea
[05:52] <ccheney> well i think so anyway, it booted into low res mode, but didn't say it was safe mode, and begin detecting hardware immediately
[06:01] <ccheney> wow the i7 860 has a high max temp (100C) its hitting 73C with linpack with a good hsf
[06:02] <ccheney> looks like i should have plenty of room though with 27C before hitting max
[06:32] <ccheney> memtest86+ 4.00 seems a lot faster
[06:33]  * ccheney may be wrong though it claims only 25% done at test 6 now
[06:34] <ccheney> it has fixed the reserved memory area that it couldn't test its now only 200K on my system
[06:34] <ccheney> iirc on one of my systems it shows up as ~ 300MB and was > 100MB with this one with old memtest
[06:49] <mac_v> hmm... does update manager prompt for password *twice* for anyone else?
[06:55] <Amaranth> does pidgin get installed for anyone else? :)
[06:56] <Amaranth> ccheney: all intel processors since the core duo have a 100C max afaik
[06:56] <Amaranth> Mine usually idle around 40C and hit 80C under full load
[07:00] <mac_v> Amaranth: yeah why is pidgin getting installed... i thought rick said empathy was default
[07:00] <Amaranth> mac_v: seb128 added a Recommends: pidgin-libnotify to libpurple0 instead of pidgin
[07:00] <mac_v> hehe!
[07:05] <ccheney> Amaranth: my c2d (conroe) reports 90C
[07:21] <ccheney> Amaranth: working in memtest at 4.30GHz so far, will be working on it for a while i imagine
[07:24] <ccheney> 4.41GHz, whee
[07:24]  * ccheney doubts its stable enough to get into win7
[09:52] <Laney> If I keep skipping tracks, the notifications queue up instead of cutting in as before
[09:52] <Laney> anyone else seeing this?
[09:59] <tgpraveen> which is meant to be the final GDM theme? http://news.softpedia.com/images/extra/LINUX/large/ubuntu910finalartwork-large_005.jpg or http://i37.tinypic.com/wraxxl.jpg?     why doesn't it loook like the mockups which were so beautiful like http://lh3.ggpht.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/SrwNNZ_JEYI/AAAAAAAADM8/oZ5p_A84zN8/s1600-h/image%5B7%5D.png
[11:20] <Laney> where does software-center get its screenshots from?
[11:21] <didrocks> Laney: IIRC, there was a blog post two weeks ago about that on planet ubuntu
[11:22] <Laney> didrocks: know who from?
[11:22] <Laney> it looks like screenshots.d.n but I'm seeing a missing one
[11:25] <didrocks> Laney: http://bloc.eurion.net/?p=355
[11:25] <didrocks> so, http://screenshots.debian.net/
[11:26] <Laney> didrocks: check out smuxi
[11:26] <Laney> it has a screenshot on that website but not in s-c
[13:04] <chrisccoulson> hey Amaranth - sorry, I didn't get a chance to get back to you about your compiz workaround last night
[13:04] <chrisccoulson> it's working anyway:)
[13:04] <chrisccoulson> (and I see it's uploaded too now)
[15:29] <tgpraveen4> is there a do-not-distrub mode planned for karmic for session-indicator?
[15:44] <tgpraveen4> cassidy: kenvandine do the sounds now work in karmic for empathy like when new message arrives or someone calls etc?
[15:58] <tgpraveen4> found it bug #400485
[17:02] <switchgirrl> hi
[17:02] <switchgirrl> what do i need to get a strawberry imac to work?
[17:03] <switchgirrl> ie on ubuntu / xubuntu
[17:05] <mac_v> !topic | switchgirrl:
[17:05] <mac_v> switchgirrl: #Ubuntu for help
[17:31] <c_korn> what is the start script of indicator-applet supposed to do ? sh -c "sleep 60 && python /usr/share/gnome-panel/add-indicator-applet.py"
[17:31] <c_korn> why does it sleep for a minute ?
[19:19] <chrisccoulson> c_korn - if you haven't figured it out already that script adds the indicator-applet to existing panel config's on upgrade
[19:20] <chrisccoulson> it sleeps so that loading the python interpreter doesn't slow down your log in every time
[19:22] <c_korn> aha, ok. I was just looking for some explanation why indicator-session-applet crashes after login for me. so I stumbled over this.
[19:24] <c_korn> it is this bug. I attached a video: ttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/436181
[19:24] <c_korn> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/436181
[19:26] <chrisccoulson> c_korn - yeah, i see that crash sometimes as well
[19:27] <chrisccoulson> the lack of assertion message is a pain but it doesn't mean that you can't still look at the backtrace though
[19:27] <chrisccoulson> you can apport-unpack the crash file to get the backtrace
[19:27] <c_korn> ah, I will try that.
[19:28] <chrisccoulson> and if there are missing symbols, just install the missing packages and run the coredump through GDB to get a new backtrace
[19:28] <chrisccoulson> you'll still miss the assertion message, but the stacktrace might be almost enough to have some idea where it crashes
[19:28] <c_korn> fine, I think ted is very interested in a backtrace
[19:29] <chrisccoulson> c_korn - i've got a partial backtrace here
[19:29] <chrisccoulson> i suppose i should try generating a better one from the coredump i've got too, but i just haven't had enough time yet
[19:32] <c_korn> where is the report file located ?
[19:32] <chrisccoulson> /var/crash
[19:39] <c_korn> fine, now I need these missing symbols
[19:39] <c_korn> I do not think the applet has a dbg package
[19:42] <chrisccoulson> c_korn - the symbol packages are here: "deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com karmic main restricted universe multiverse"
[19:42] <chrisccoulson> (thats for your sources.list
[19:42] <chrisccoulson> )
[19:43] <c_korn> there are debugging symbols for each package ?
[19:46] <chrisccoulson> c_korn - yeah, the debugging symbols are stripped at build time by pkg-create-dbgsym, and put in to a separate repository
[19:46] <c_korn> oh, if I knew that it would have saved me a lot of time.
[19:57] <c_korn> ok, now there is something seriously broken here: http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/25771/screenshot_002_GaQd0K.png
[20:04] <chrisccoulson> c_korn - that looks pretty broken
[20:04] <chrisccoulson> tried restarting the panel?
[20:05] <c_korn> I restarted karmic. fixed it.
[20:18] <c_korn> chrisccoulson: apport does not create a backtrace any more
[20:20] <c_korn> am I doing something wrong? http://pastebin.com/d117fbf50
[20:20] <chrisccoulson> c_korn - i'm getting that too
[20:21] <chrisccoulson> i'm trying to load the symbol files manually, but it still doesn't work
[20:21] <chrisccoulson> so, i'm not sure what to do yet;)
[20:22] <c_korn> hm, maybe ted has an idea
[21:05] <Amaranth> chrisccoulson: yeah, mvo decided the best way to test it was to get it in the beta :)
[21:07] <Amaranth> ccheney: get an OOo build going on that thing yet? :)
[21:44] <mdke> hi. Does anyone have any bright ideas about how to refer to the indicator-applet in documentation? i.e. "to lock your screen, click [...]"
[21:44] <mdke> it was pretty easy when the thing was in the System menu, but now I'm struggling
[21:44] <Amaranth> No idea, I just say "that thing by the clock with your name on it" :P
[21:45] <mdke> yeah, I'm tempted...
[21:57] <mdke> but then you need to add "unless you don't have it, in which case it's in the System menu"
[21:58] <mdke> gah
[22:02] <Amaranth> It's the magically moving Lock Screen button
[22:18] <ccheney> Amaranth: not yet
[22:18] <mdke> ok I've gone for "Click your username in the top panel and select ... "
[22:19] <Amaranth> mdke: Yeah, if they move it or remove it they probably don't need that bit of documentation anyway so that should cover it
[22:19] <mdke> guess so
[22:30] <jpds> Can't we just use Ctrl-Alt-L?
[22:36] <mdke> jpds: nice, yeah I think we should include that
[22:36] <mdke> jpds: but we still need to use the explanation for the shutdown and log out actions