| sistpoty | hey bddebian: I'll upload an ftbfs fixed version of gmult any minute. Please don't ask, why it does work with my patch, that was an epiphany and I have no real clue about the build system :( | 01:58 |
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| sistpoty | bddebian: hence I'd very much like to not file a but in unstable about that... but in case it works for you as well... ;) | 01:58 |
| LaserJock | sistpoty: what are you doing up so late? | 02:09 |
| sistpoty | hey LaserJock | 02:10 |
| sistpoty | LaserJock: I'm waiting for my spouse to return home | 02:10 |
| LaserJock | sistpoty: what TZ are you in? Seems awfully late/early for Europe | 02:11 |
| sistpoty | LaserJock: utc+2 and, yes, it's quite late for me | 02:11 |
| LaserJock | I'm tired and I'm -4 :-) | 02:12 |
| sistpoty | hehe | 02:12 |
| bddebian | Bunch a sissies! :) | 02:12 |
| bddebian | sistpoty: Did you already post/upload gmult? | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | bddebian: did I hear that you made DD? | 02:13 |
| sistpoty | bddebian: uploaded: yes, but it's still in the queue | 02:13 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Yeah, a while ago. Amazing eh? :) | 02:13 |
| LaserJock | I can't believe it | 02:13 |
| bddebian | Hey! :'-( | 02:14 |
| LaserJock | ;-) | 02:14 |
| sistpoty | LaserJock: you missed the bits about ftp-master, I guess | 02:14 |
| bddebian | Heh | 02:14 |
| bddebian | Well just ftp assistant | 02:14 |
| LaserJock | ohhhhh! | 02:14 |
| LaserJock | I think I did see that in my mail box | 02:14 |
| LaserJock | and to think, we never thought he'd amount to anythin :p | 02:14 |
| bddebian | I'm totally absent from Ubuntu these days though | 02:14 |
| bddebian | LaserJock: Amen brother! :) | 02:15 |
| sistpoty | well, I always new to cheat revu by reviewing only stuff that went through bddebian before :P | 02:15 |
| LaserJock | heh | 02:15 |
| bddebian | bah | 02:15 |
| LaserJock | I'm sadly absent from Ubuntu these days as well | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | I can't believe somebody actually gave me a real job | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | I was starting to think I was going to be a grad student forever | 02:17 |
| bddebian | heh | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | I had been there longer than all of the secretaries | 02:17 |
| bddebian | You can have my "real" job! :) | 02:17 |
| LaserJock | I'd been through 3 department chairs | 02:18 |
| bddebian | dang | 02:18 |
| LaserJock | and I'd seen 6 new faculty hired | 02:18 |
| LaserJock | 2 of which I was on the hiring committee | 02:18 |
| bddebian | sistpoty: Is it a small patch? | 02:19 |
| LaserJock | you know you've been there too long when professors you helped hire are getting tenure :-) | 02:19 |
| bddebian | hehe | 02:19 |
| LaserJock | I like my new job, but I'm not sure about Boston/New England yet | 02:20 |
| LaserJock | weather's been nice, but the traffic sucks | 02:21 |
| sistpoty | bddebian: yep | 02:21 |
| bddebian | Yeah Boston is about the worst traffic I've ever seen and I lived in California for 12 years :) | 02:21 |
| sistpoty | bddebian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/278359/ | 02:22 |
| bddebian | wtf? | 02:22 |
| * sistpoty hides under http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31703518/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.gmult_7.2-1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 02:23 | |
| bddebian | sistpoty: I'm not doubting you, I'm just confused by that one :) | 02:26 |
| sistpoty | heh | 02:27 |
| sistpoty | well, usually I can tell exactly what went wrong, and I even believe that I'm not too bad with automake... in this case it still escapes me why the patch fixes the problem though | 02:28 |
| bddebian | Aye | 02:28 |
| sistpoty | ok, spouse just returned home... must leave now... cya | 02:29 |
| bddebian | Later man, thanks | 02:30 |
| LaserJock | you know | 02:30 |
| sistpoty | cya bddebian and LaserJock | 02:30 |
| LaserJock | we'd get so much more done on Ubuntu if it wasn't for spouses ;-) | 02:30 |
| sistpoty | haha | 02:30 |
| bddebian | Heh and jobs | 02:30 |
| LaserJock | but don't tell mine I said that :p | 02:30 |
| sistpoty | heh | 02:30 |
| sistpoty | <- now really leaves, cya | 02:30 |
| zooko | Hi folks. Anybody interested in uploading Tahoe-LAFS to the Karmic Queue? http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/tahoe-lafs | 03:39 |
| ScottK | Note: It's a reupload due to a licensing issue. | 03:59 |
| ScottK | So it's OK/desired even though it's late in the cycle. | 03:59 |
| jdong | plus, it sounds like a pretty damn cool project :) | 04:02 |
| ScottK | zooko:^^^^ There's your victim. | 04:03 |
| jdong | ROFL | 04:04 |
| jdong | ok let wrap up what I'm doing and take a look :) | 04:05 |
| jdong | boy you think after these years I'd learn what speaking up means in IRC ;-) | 04:05 |
| zooko | :-) | 04:06 |
| ScottK | jdong: I'd do it, but then I couldn't be the archive admin to review it. Thanks. | 04:11 |
| jdong | ok, lemme look :) | 04:21 |
| jdong | zooko: sponsored :) | 04:24 |
| zooko | jdong: whoo! :-) | 04:26 |
| jdong | I'll keep my fingers crossed for you too ;-) | 04:27 |
| zooko | Thank you very much! | 04:31 |
| jdong | sure thing, anytime! | 04:31 |
| * ScottK digs around. Finds the remote for jdong's alarm clock and hands it over to zooko to make sure "anytime" is enforcable. | 04:32 | |
| jdong | well as long as it's not the 150dB one on Digg or my roommate's which is always in some foreign timezone, that's fine :) | 04:33 |
| dtchen | git fetch | 04:34 |
| dtchen | bah, sorry | 04:34 |
| jdong | while you're here... ALSA on my 17" MBP | 04:35 |
| jdong | kidding ;-) another time | 04:35 |
| dtchen | you know the drill: ubuntu-bug alsa-base | 04:35 |
| jdong | it's already got a fairly lengthy LP bug... *finds number* | 04:36 |
| jdong | bug 337947? | 04:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 337947 in mactel-support "[Jaunty] No sound output by default with MacBook 5.1" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/337947 | 04:36 |
| jdong | idn what information it needs; with the latest posted patches and/or forcing model=mb5 I've got sound in everything, just no jack sense | 04:37 |
| dtchen | jdong: right, that bug is pretty unhelpful for me WRT your specific issue, because i have no way of knowing if your codec matches the reporter's precisely | 04:40 |
| jdong | dtchen: *nods* in that case I shall boot that machine up right now :) | 04:40 |
| dtchen | jdong: it is more helpful to just post another bug report with that info attached (which ubuntu-bug alsa-base will do) | 04:40 |
| jdong | will do, thank you sir | 04:40 |
| zooko | Okay folks, I'm definitely about to fall asleep. As soon as Tahoe-LAFS is apt-gettable I'll post about it on my blog and identi.ca and so on and invite Tahoe-LAFS users to install Karmic and test it out. | 04:42 |
| jdong | whoo :) | 04:43 |
| jdong | good night, man! | 04:43 |
| zooko | Tomorrow I'm taking my children to aikido, then soccer, then having my father over for a visit, so at some point tomorrow night or Sunday I'll probably check for Tahoe-LAFS in Karmic... | 04:44 |
| * zooko tries to fall asleep, but is having too much fun listening to http://radio1190.org/1190high.m3u | 04:45 | |
| jdong | whew, what a packed day | 04:45 |
| jdong | kids these days are involved in so many things | 04:45 |
| dtchen | headdesk. i hate brown paperbag bugs. | 04:49 |
| jdong | dtchen: ok I filed bug 437034 regarding my issue | 05:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 437034 in alsa-driver "Headphone jack sense doesn't work on MBP 17" unibody" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/437034 | 05:19 |
| jdong | thanks in advance | 05:19 |
| dtchen | jdong: thanks | 05:19 |
| Amaranth | Oh, should I file a bug for my laptop needing model=mb3? | 05:31 |
| wrapster | im a beginner at packaging and wanted to clarify a few things... have a look at this http://pastie.org/631355... (as an eg ) i wanted to know if all the files present in the upstream dir are necessary.. or can we do without some? | 07:35 |
| jmarsden | wrapster: You seem to have mixed source files with temp files from the build process in the same directory?? That's horribly confusing. if you want to repackage flex, apt-get source flex and start from there. | 07:51 |
| wrapster | jmarsden: yeah thats where i started from .. i had already built flex but guess i needed to pull the source then ask the question ... :) | 07:52 |
| wrapster | sorry about that.. | 07:52 |
| wrapster | will get back in a while | 07:52 |
| jmarsden | wrapster: Oh, then run make clean or make -f debian/rules clean or both and try again :) | 07:53 |
| wrapster | jmarsden: is this better to base my question on? http://pastie.org/631368 | 07:57 |
| jmarsden | Probably... but now you just have source files, so of course they are all needed... what makes you think otherwise? | 07:58 |
| jmarsden | Well, you could consider config.guess and config.sub disposable... but... what are you really trying to do here? | 07:59 |
| wrapster | jmarsden: when i looked at ways of packaging...(when my seniors were doing it) i thought i saw them remove files that ended with *.ex so was wondering what they are and why are they being removed.. forgot to ask then.. so troubing you. | 08:02 |
| wrapster | how about in the debian dir? apart from control,rules,changelog,copyright are there any other files that are necessary? to build a pkg? | 08:03 |
| jmarsden | Inside the debian/ dir if you use dh_make to generate a starting set of debian packaging files you can get that; but here you are starting from an existing package so there should not be any files around which are unnecessary. | 08:03 |
| jmarsden | wrapster: To build "a" package, or to build this one in particular? | 08:04 |
| wrapster | to build a pkg | 08:04 |
| jmarsden | at minimum you should only need those 4. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete#Packaging%20from%20Scratch | 08:05 |
| jmarsden | That guide also talks about removing the *.ex files, by the way. Reading the whole guide is *strongly* recommended. | 08:06 |
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| sistpoty | hi folks | 14:36 |
| * ScottK waves to sistpoty. | 14:36 | |
| sistpoty | hi ScottK | 14:36 |
| diwic | hi there | 14:36 |
| ScottK | zooko: What are the licensing terms for src/allmydata/util/mathutil.py? | 14:50 |
| ScottK | sistpoty: IIRC maven is one of those things where you generally want the crack of the day, so while we'd need someone to shepherd through a set of updates, I'm don't think we need to be really picky about testing. | 15:28 |
| sistpoty | ScottK: ok, but I'd at least like to see a rudimentary test though | 15:29 |
| ScottK | OK. | 15:29 |
| less11 | Hi all, I need to know where to ask questions ubuntu boot process (more specifically, initrd related questions) | 15:33 |
| ScottK | less11: I think there is an #ubuntu-boot channel. I know there's a LP team with a mailing list. | 15:33 |
| less1 | ScottK: thanks.. :-) | 15:36 |
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| lamalex | Does anyone know about cdbs simple-patchsys? | 17:47 |
| lamalex | how do I create a new patch? Do I edit the code then do a diff and revert the code? | 17:47 |
| diwic | cdbs-edit-patch | 17:49 |
| Darxus | If I created a new package today, which didn't qualify for karmic, what would happen to it? | 17:50 |
| lamalex | Darxus: get it into debian and have it sync for lucid | 17:51 |
| diwic | lamalex: if you have the choice, switching to quilt is generally recommended | 17:52 |
| lamalex | diwic: yeah, but I don't have the authority to do that unfortunately | 17:52 |
| pochu | diwic: is it? | 17:52 |
| pochu | oh, generally | 17:53 |
| diwic | pochu: I believe most people think so (myself included), but I'm not sure if it is an official policy. | 17:54 |
| Darxus | Ohh, a name for what comes after kamric :P | 17:54 |
| Darxus | Packages can't be added to lucid yet though? | 17:55 |
| pochu | no | 17:56 |
| Darxus | Heh, wikipedia is already updated. | 17:57 |
| Darxus | Which event on the Lucid release schedule markes when new packages can be uploaded? | 18:00 |
| Darxus | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule | 18:00 |
| lamalex | diwic: thanks | 18:01 |
| lamalex | Darxus: they can be uploaded at any point before feature freeze | 18:02 |
| lamalex | but debian import freeze is where it won't be synced from debian | 18:02 |
| lamalex | so I would try and get it uploaded into debian as soon as possible | 18:02 |
| Darxus | lamalex: Well, since they can't be uploaded now, that's not true. When is the soonest they can be uploaded? | 18:02 |
| RainCT | (*automatically synced, you can still manually request syncs afterwards) | 18:03 |
| lamalex | Darxus: idk, as soon as the repos open I guess | 18:03 |
| RainCT | Darxus: as soon as the archive is opened, which is usually a few weeks after the previous release coming out | 18:03 |
| lamalex | nov 5 maybe? | 18:03 |
| Darxus | RainCT: Thanks. | 18:04 |
| Darxus | That should be on the schedule :) | 18:04 |
| Darxus | I just contacted the last person to edit the schedule and asked him to add it. | 18:07 |
| Darxus | Can you give me an example of a package that only has a couple .h files? | 18:11 |
| joaopinto | Darxus, .h are usually contained on -dev packages | 18:11 |
| Darxus | joaopinto: I know, I'm looking through them, thanks. | 18:12 |
| Darxus | $ for file in `dpkg -l '*dev' | grep ^i | awk '{print $2}'` ; do echo -n `dpkg -L $file | wc -l` >> headercount.txt ; echo " $file " >> headercount.txt; done | 18:15 |
| Darxus | I love linux. | 18:16 |
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| Darxus | libbz2-dev looks good. | 18:17 |
| Darxus | Well, before I start trying to build a new package for the first time I should ask if this makes sense. | 18:19 |
| Darxus | Nvidia has made hardware acceleration of video decoding available. | 18:19 |
| Darxus | Support is included in the source of the karmic mplayer package, but it's not enabled. | 18:20 |
| Darxus | Enabling it requires two .h files from nvidia. | 18:20 |
| Darxus | So I should package these two .h files and make that a build-dep of mplayer, right? | 18:20 |
| Darxus | (I have it working on my computer. It's awesome.) | 18:21 |
| joaopinto | Darxus, have you checked those .h files copyright ? | 18:21 |
| Darxus | joaopinto: Just did. It's good. | 18:22 |
| Darxus | 'Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction...' | 18:23 |
| joaopinto | Darxus, if the copyright is compatible with mplayer, it makes more sense to add those 2 .h as a building patch | 18:23 |
| joaopinto | i mean, to mplayer | 18:24 |
| Darxus | Does it? What about other players that might build against it? | 18:24 |
| Darxus | Bah, trying to find somebody at nvidia to ask for a version number. | 18:27 |
| joaopinto | there are some cases of .h files repeated on several sources, if those 2 .h are part of a library it makes sense to package the entire lib :) | 18:27 |
| Darxus | joaopinto: I believe this support only exists as patches nvidia made to mplayer and these two .h files. | 18:33 |
| Darxus | So.. should I be making a package of two .h files? | 18:34 |
| Darxus | I don't think I got an answer to this before: Do I need to use my real name when packaging/signing for upload to the archives, if I make it to that point? | 18:37 |
| sistpoty | Darxus: it's highly encouraged to use the real name | 18:38 |
| sistpoty | Darxus: header files belong to the package with the library that actually has the implementation, a standalone package with only two header files would be a little bit strange | 18:38 |
| sistpoty | (i.e. to the -dev package actually, see the library packaging guide for details) | 18:40 |
| Darxus | I finally had the sense to google to see what debian is doing with this. There's an RFP bug: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=511555 | 18:40 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 511555 in ffmpeg "ffmpeg: Please support VDPAU" [Wishlist,Open] | 18:40 |
| ScottK | diwic: Very few people are neutral on the subject of quilt. I think saying it's generally recommended overstates the case. | 18:41 |
| * sistpoty shoves more packages into ScottK's queue :) | 18:43 | |
| ScottK | Excellent | 18:43 |
| Darxus | "Headers are alreay included in the nvidia source package" | 18:44 |
| Darxus | Looks like those headers are already packaged in nvidia-glx-185-dev in karmic, heh. | 18:52 |
| Darxus | Except they're not actually in there :( | 18:58 |
| ScottK | kirkland: I'm going over Universe stuff and accepting it. Your versioning of the sobby upload seems a bit odd to me. Didn't you want 0.4.5-1ubuntu1? | 19:04 |
| sistpoty | meh, no ftbfs bugs in the universe sponsors list... where's my whip? *g* | 19:29 |
| * sistpoty is off again, cya | 19:35 | |
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| hyperair | kirkland: i think i might have bugged you about this previously, but checking for $TERM screws up ssh sessions with byobu-launcher grandly. | 22:09 |
| hyperair | kirkland: please, just check *anything* except TERM | 22:09 |
| hyperair | what's wrong with just checking STY? | 22:09 |
| hyperair | in fact, what are the cases where STY goes missing? | 22:10 |
| * hyperair reads the bug report. | 22:11 | |
| hyperair | i take it that it's acceptable to have byobu *not* launch, and instead have "exec byobu-launcher" just exit the shell instead. | 22:12 |
| hyperair | great. just great. | 22:12 |
| hyperair | $ ssh 192.168.1.3 | 22:13 |
| hyperair | Connection to 192.168.1.3 closed. | 22:13 |
| hyperair | whee. fun. | 22:13 |
| hyperair | in the first place, what's wrong with having byobu-inside-byobu when you ssh to another machine that has byobu in it? | 22:14 |
| hyperair | hmm byobu is in main. maybe i should have ranted in #ubuntu-devel instead. | 22:15 |
| hyperair | oh well, what's done is done. | 22:15 |
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| ScottK | zooko: Did you see my ping from this morning about licensing? | 23:45 |
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