[00:00] <Hypnoz> nvm i figured it out
[00:05] <zul> smoser: ping
[00:06] <Hypnoz> every time i see that name i kinda get in the mood for a s'more
[00:31] <maek> does ubuntu come with an mta?
[00:32] <maek> I feel crazy because I could have sworn I turned exim off
[00:44] <zul> erichammond: can you try the kernel and ramdisk listed in bug #431103 and see if you get the ssh keys when you do an ec2-get-console-output
[00:44] <erichammond> zul: looking
[00:46] <zul> thanks
[00:47] <erichammond> zul: What AMI should I use?
[00:47] <zul> erichammond: the regular alpha6 i386 AMI
[00:48] <erichammond> ok
[00:48] <erichammond> Trying ami-fa658593 + aki-305dbd59 + ari-365dbd5f
[00:54] <erichammond> zul: wow, it took 5 minutes to get out of "pending"
[00:54] <erichammond> Hopefully it's just because the kernel+ramdisk are not cached everywhere yet.
[00:55] <erichammond> On second thought, those should not be very big, right?
[00:58] <zul> they shouldnt
[01:00] <erichammond> zul: Results: Yes, the console output includes the host ssh key fingerprints.
[01:02] <zul> erichammond: excelent
[01:18] <erichammond> Sorry, Jaunty keeps losing track of my Verizon USB modem.  I plug it in to the other side of the laptop and it finds it again, then loses it later, at which point I have to reboot.
[03:13] <newz2000> Is this a good place to get help with xen related issues?
[03:13] <newz2000> (running xen on ubuntu server of course)
[03:57] <giovani> newz2000: #xen would be more appropriate
[03:58] <newz2000> Not too many helpful people online the last couple days in there
[03:58] <newz2000> I have a 64bit server that does not support virtualization cpu instructions running Jaunty
[03:58] <newz2000> Is there a stock kernel that supports xen dom0?
[03:59] <giovani> did you not read the Xen page on ubuntu's site?
[04:00] <newz2000> yes, it's pretty out of date
[04:00] <giovani> it is?
[04:00] <newz2000> "This guide is written for Feisty"
[04:01] <newz2000> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen#Installation
[04:01] <giovani> did you read the part before that mentioned jaunty?
[04:01] <giovani> I didn't say to read the whole guide -- but read the introduction
[04:01] <giovani> Xen as a supported virtualization solution isn't highest on Ubuntu's list
[04:02] <newz2000> This one sentence is pretty meaningless by itself
[04:02] <giovani> like most distros -- KVM is the virtualization of chocie
[04:02] <newz2000> kvm needs hardware virtualization support I believe
[04:02] <newz2000> I need paravirtualization
[04:03] <giovani> no, KVM offers paravirt
[04:03] <giovani> but like it or not
[04:03] <giovani> KVM is the center of attention
[04:03] <newz2000> KVM offers paravirt?
[04:03] <giovani> yep
[04:03] <giovani> anyway
[04:03] <giovani> use Xen -- that's fine -- but don't expect a lot of support
[04:05] <newz2000> I'm interested in exploring a kvm solution
[04:05] <newz2000> The kvm docs I read said it needed VT which I don't have
[04:05]  * Debolaz would recommend looking at proxmox, a Debian based Linux distribution for managing KVM / OpenVZ instances.
[04:05] <giovani> then you clearly haven't done the most basic of google searches -- i.e. "kvm paravirtualization"
[04:06] <giovani> I'd suggest you buy a real processor though, that does offer VT
[04:06] <newz2000> oh, yeah, that's a basic google search
[04:06] <giovani> they're not expensive
[04:06] <newz2000> So, kvm installation page says "To run KVM, you need a processor that supports virtualisation"
[04:07] <newz2000> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation
[04:24] <bjaspan> seen webchick?
[04:24] <maek> can anyone point me in the direction of documents on how to configure sendmail or any mta to just send mail, I just need to sendmail from a few php scripts but im a bit lost. thanks
[04:24] <bjaspan> oops, sorry, wrong channel
[04:40] <qman__> maek, postfix and exim are the supported mail servers on ubuntu
[04:41] <maek> qman__: either one better/easier for a mta noob. I just need to send mail from a few php applications that use the "sendmail" stuff built into php
[04:41] <maek> I assume postfix and exim provied the /usr/sbin/sendmail like most mtas?
[04:42] <maek> qman__: also, thakns.
[04:42] <maek> thanks, even.
[04:42] <qman__> I don't know much about exim, I use postfix myself
[04:42] <qman__> I've not done a configuration like that, but the dpkg installer helps you set it up
[04:42] <maek> oh ok. ill give that a go
[04:42] <qman__> and I know that postfix can be configured as a drop-in replacement for sendmail
[04:51] <ScottK> Most of the Ubuntu docs are postfix centric too.
[05:28] <rags> I have a Hardy server with two pppoe connections, now recently the server just hangs from time to time...when I connect to the consle this message keeps loopin on the screen "unregister_netdevice: waiting for ppp0 to become free. Usage count = 1". It's a known bug in the 2.6.24 kernel.
[05:28] <rags> Wht can I do to get a resolution...
[05:30] <ScottK> I don't imagine it's a new bug in the kernel.  I'd imagine figure out what else changed and put it back.
[05:38] <rags> most solutions recommend a downgrade...
[05:48] <ScottK> Well it wasn't happening to you before, so somehting must have changed.
[05:52] <rags> ScottK: Yes...It's more frequent now actually....difficult to trace the problem though...
[05:52] <ScottK> Good luck.  I don't have any suggestions more useful than that.
[06:19] <artillerytx> how long is rndc-confgen supposed to take?
[06:21] <jmarsden> artillerytx: It is nearly instant.
[06:21] <artillerytx> jmarsden: ahh mine takes quit a while to generate
[06:22] <artillerytx> I wonder whats causing that
[06:23] <mushroomblue> is Karmic useable enough on a dev server, or is it still going to break every other update?
[06:23] <jmarsden> artillerytx: Testing shows it takes 7 milliseconds here, using time sudo rndc-confgen -a :)
[06:24] <artillerytx> jmarsden: ahh i used "rndc-confgen -b 512 | grep -m 1 "secret" | cut -d '"' -f 2"
[06:24] <artillerytx> jmarsden: some tutorial told me to use that one
[06:24] <artillerytx> its been about 5 mins
[06:24] <artillerytx> still nothing
[06:24] <jmarsden> Hmmm.  -a is the "do it automatically" switch that I have always used.
[06:25] <artillerytx> let me try that one then
[06:25] <jmarsden> Do you have enough randomness for it .. maybe it is hung waiting for entropy from /dev/random or something like that?
[06:25] <artillerytx> that could be it
[06:26] <artillerytx> how do i fix the /dev/random
[06:27] <jmarsden> I'm not sure, I've never seen that issue in Ubuntu, I just remembered it from years ago when I had a server that would sometimes stall doing crypto stuff.. turned out it was a lack of entropy.  Google it and see if you find something relevant?
[06:28] <artillerytx> k i will try googling rndc-confgen /dev/random
[06:31] <artillerytx> people are suggesting i buy some device to make it more random ?? that seems odd
[06:32] <jmarsden> That's an expensive solution for people with very high security needs; it's probably not what you are looking for.
[06:32] <artillerytx> haha yeah no i just have a little web server
[06:32] <artillerytx> running like 4 websites
[06:32] <jmarsden> Have you actually checked that the process concerned is in fact stalled reading from /dev/random or /dev/urandom ?
[06:33] <artillerytx> I have no how can i check that
[06:33] <artillerytx> Im still learning about ubuntu-server
[06:34] <jmarsden> Not a Ubuntu server specific issue.  How in general would you check what files or devices a process has open?
[06:35] <artillerytx> top?
[06:35] <artillerytx> usually the activity monitor which would be top i guess in ubuntu
[06:35] <jmarsden> Interesting idea, but I don't think you can ask top "who has file X open"...
[06:35] <jmarsden> Try fuser or lsof
[06:37] <artillerytx> would it be fuser -m
[06:40] <jmarsden> man fuser and read the synopsis again.  I'd try just   fuser /dev/random   or   fuser/dev/urandom  to see which processes have those devices open.
[06:41] <artillerytx> well for those commands it gives me 3 rows of numbers and urandom only has one
[06:42] <jmarsden> Is one of those PIDs the PID of your rndc-confget process?
[06:42] <jmarsden> *rndc-confgen
[06:44] <artillerytx> it looks like its PID is 26025 which isn't one of the randosm
[06:45] <artillerytx> wait no there it is
[06:45] <artillerytx> yeah its using one of them
[06:45] <jmarsden> OK, so then most likely that isn't the issue; it's not waiting on either of those devices... oh... OK.
[06:45] <jmarsden> So it *is* waiting on one of them
[06:46] <artillerytx> yeah
[06:46] <artillerytx> 25504
[06:46] <artillerytx> k got it
[06:46] <artillerytx> it finally worked
[06:46] <artillerytx> how can i see how long it took ?
[06:47] <jmarsden> Do it again with time at the front.   time sudo rndc-confgen -a    (which I said earlier, I think)
[06:47] <artillerytx> alright will do
[06:48] <jmarsden> But exactly how long it takes isn't really important to know, is it?  Why is that valuable to know?
[06:48] <artillerytx> just curious
[06:48] <jmarsden> OK :)
[06:49] <jmarsden> You'd do better to feed /dev/random some data, I think :)
[06:49] <artillerytx> :-( not sure how i would do that
[06:50] <artillerytx> k it took 2m35.070s
[06:50] <artillerytx> that seems long
[06:50] <jmarsden> You seriously need to read and understand something like http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/intro-linux.html
[06:51] <jmarsden> So you have a grasp of Linux fundamentals including shell redirection.
[06:52] <jmarsden> cat /etc/hosts |sudo tee -a /dev/random
[06:52] <jmarsden> Might be a start.
[06:52] <artillerytx> yea
[06:53] <jmarsden> Then try    time sudo rndc-confgen -a    again and see if it is any quicker.
[06:57] <artillerytx> seems like its taking longer now
[06:57] <jmarsden> Then that didn't help!
[06:58] <artillerytx> still sitting
[06:59] <jmarsden> I don't have time/energy to troubleshoot this in depth now... I dislike suggesting it, but is this a server you can reboot without major consequences?  If so, a reboot might get you some more entropy as part of the boot process.
[06:59] <artillerytx> yeah i can reboot
[07:00] <artillerytx> ehh whatever it creates the new key thats all that matters
[07:00] <jmarsden> So you could try that; although of course you do now have a working rndc.key, or should have when this corrent rndc-confgen run finishes ... you only need to do it once, really.
[07:00] <jmarsden> Right.
[07:00] <jmarsden> But if something else needs entropy on your machine (for an SSL connection or whatever) it too may stall.  So this probably isn't something to ignore forever.
[07:01] <artillerytx> yeah
[07:01] <artillerytx> how can i check that the key is working properly ?
[07:01] <jmarsden> Use rndc :)
[07:02] <artillerytx> rndc reload bind9 returns - rndc:connection to remote host closed blah blah
[07:02] <artillerytx> "=)
[07:02] <artillerytx> sad face i mean
[07:02] <jmarsden> Did you restart bind after the last time you ran rndc-confgen ?
[07:03] <artillerytx> no i haven't /etc/init.d/bind9 restart
[07:03] <jmarsden> Sure.  Bind won't read the newly written config file until you restart it.
[07:04] <artillerytx> :-( same thing man this sucks
[07:04] <jmarsden> What did you do to your bind config files?
[07:05] <jmarsden> This works out of the box.
[07:05] <artillerytx> i really haven't done anything
[07:06] <artillerytx> well besides i guess i added one of those lines to the named.conf like the tutorials tell me to
[07:07] <jmarsden> what line and why did you add it?  What does it do?
[07:08] <artillerytx> - http://pastebin.com/d5f6bea01
[07:08] <artillerytx> thats the named.conf file
[07:08] <artillerytx> line 41 is where i added the codes
[07:10] <jmarsden> And what does the stuf you added do?  Why did you add it?
[07:10] <artillerytx> i was following a tutorial
[07:10] <jmarsden> Why???!  You just broke it.
[07:11] <jmarsden> What were you trying to actually do
[07:11] <artillerytx> that was from awhile ago
[07:11] <artillerytx> Well for some reason everytime i restart bind with the /etc/init.d/bind9 restart it gives me the rndc error and i wanted to fix it
[07:11] <artillerytx> so i just googled the error and found a tutorial
[07:11] <jmarsden> So you got an error even before you made any changes at all?
[07:12] <artillerytx> I've had the error and have yet to figure out what was wrong
[07:12] <jmarsden> OK... but are you saying that out of the box, as soon as you installed bind and started it for the first time, rndc failed?
[07:13] <artillerytx> yeah im pretty sure it didn't work
[07:13] <jmarsden> Hmm.  OK.  I'll kill my bind setup here and reinstall from scratch and see what happens...
[07:14] <artillerytx> well maybe i should just do that then
[07:14] <artillerytx> save my .hosts files and reinstall
[07:15] <jmarsden> Wait... OK... I'm seeing the same thing, on Ubuntu 9.04.  It did not used to do that... I suspect a bug in a recent update to bind, or something like that...
[07:16] <artillerytx> Okay cool
[07:16] <artillerytx> yeah i have 9.04
[07:16] <artillerytx> Okay so im not totally crazy
[07:17] <artillerytx> or stupid
[07:22] <jmarsden> OK, there may be something odd about stopping named.  Try   sudo killall named    and then    sudo service bind9 start
[07:23] <artillerytx> k done
[07:24] <artillerytx> started fine
[07:26] <artillerytx> rndc is still giving those same errors
[07:35] <artillerytx> jmarsden: any luck ?
[07:36] <jmarsden> sorry, ob phone...
[07:36] <artillerytx> no prob
[07:38] <rpinto> hi channel
[07:39] <rpinto> im facing a problem wiht my ubunt LTS server8.04
[07:39] <rpinto> the server hangs
[07:39] <rpinto> when i checked the logs, the following error is shown
[07:39] <rpinto> unregister_netdevice: waiting for ppp0 to become free. usage count =1+bug patch
[07:40] <rpinto> ive read that this is a kernel bug
[07:40] <rpinto> any patch for this?
[07:41] <rpinto> this is the error:>	unregister_netdevice: waiting for ppp0 to become free. usage count =1
[07:41] <rpinto> i have two pppoe connections
[07:41] <rpinto> and the server is the gateway
[07:41] <rpinto> i read tat this usually happens when there r two pppoe connections
[07:41] <rpinto> can some1 guid me on this?
[07:45] <jmarsden> rpinto: No idea, I suggest you search for details on the kernel bug and hope there is a patch for it.
[07:45] <jmarsden> artillerytx: OK, I'm off the phone...
[07:46] <artillerytx> jmarsden: cool cool
[07:46] <jmarsden> artillerytx: Remove the stuff you added to the named.conf file.  Then at the end of named.conf.local add a line
[07:47] <jmarsden> include "/etc/bind/rndc.key";
[07:47] <jmarsden> Then go around...   sudo killall named    and then    sudo service bind9 start
[07:47] <artillerytx> alright done
[07:48] <jmarsden> Did it help?  rndc status
[07:48] <artillerytx> same error :-(
[07:48] <artillerytx> should i restart bind?
[07:48] <jmarsden> Yes, the killall and start should have done that, though/
[07:49] <artillerytx> still not workin
[07:50] <artillerytx> should i backup my hosts file and reinstall bind
[07:52] <jmarsden> artillerytx: You can try it... I'm not sure what is happening that would break it, at this point.
[07:53] <artillerytx> Yeah
[07:53] <artillerytx> my rndc.key only has 4 lines in it
[07:53] <artillerytx> is that right
[07:54] <jmarsden> yes
[07:54] <artillerytx> yeah i have no idea then
[07:54] <artillerytx> i have a rndc.conf and a rndc.key
[07:56] <jmarsden> OK, well, if you want you can back up the config files and then sudo apt-get purge bind9 bind9-utils    and then install them both and see how it goes from there.
[07:56] <artillerytx> alight i really appreciate your help !
[07:59] <artillerytx> if i wanted to copy a whole directory it would be cp -r /etc/bind
[07:59] <artillerytx> k got it now im gonna remove bind
[08:00] <artillerytx> jmarsden: looks like i don't have bind9-utils
[08:01] <jmarsden> My mistake, try it without the dash.  bind9utils
[08:01] <jmarsden> rndc is part of bind9utils
[08:01] <artillerytx> k
[08:01] <artillerytx> now i will do apt-get install bind9 bind9utils
[08:01] <jmarsden> Right.  Check that /etc/bind/ is either missing or has no files in it first?
[08:02] <artillerytx> it kept all my domains hosts files
[08:02] <artillerytx> should i just remove that directory
[08:02] <jmarsden> That's probably OK... but I'd remove it just to be sure you egt a fresh configuration.
[08:02] <artillerytx> k cool
[08:03] <artillerytx> alright done with that
[08:04] <artillerytx> now i need to repeat those steps that you did ?
[08:05] <artillerytx> great
[08:05] <artillerytx> rndc is working now
[08:06] <jmarsden> OK, you are all set.. just add your domains back
[08:07] <artillerytx> awesome thanks
[08:07] <jmarsden> No problem.
[08:17] <pwnguin> kuku kaju!
[15:40] <Alan> Hoping somebody can give me some advice...  basically, i have an ubuntu server (amd64, 8.10) that doesn't have hardware virtualisation support, and I want to run a second ubuntu server instance on it
[15:41] <Alan> which route should I go down? vserver, xen, virtualbox, or something else?
[15:42] <hexa-> Hey
[15:42] <hexa-> so i want to do some logfile evaluation for my webserver
[15:42] <hexa-> is there a way i can use grep/sed or something like this for creating a statistic for user agents?
[15:42] <hexa-> counting requests per user-agent
[15:43] <hexa-> the user-agent is usually last in the webservers access.log entangled by double quotes
[15:46] <Deeps> cat access.log | awk -F'"' '{print $(NF-1)}' | sort -u
[15:46] <Deeps> will list you all the unique UA's you have
[15:47] <Deeps> sorted alphabetically
[15:47] <hexa-> wow, nice
[15:48] <hexa-> thank, I think I get it from here
[15:56] <th3_b0b> Hey guys. I just set up a new Jaunty Server as a Gateway as described in this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing) tutorial. Then I installed the openssh-server and can perfectly login using "ssh IP-OF-SERVER". But if I try "ssh HOSTNAME-OF-SERVER" all I get is: "ssh: connect to host samwise port 22: Connection refused". What's wrong here?
[15:59] <th3_b0b> I guess it has something to do with the iptables rules decribed in the gateway-howto, but I'm not very familiar with iptables so I know neither if iptables actually causes the problem nor how I could solve it...
[16:02] <ScottK> If it works with the IP address, but not the hostname, look at DNS, not iptables.
[16:05] <th3_b0b> ScottK: Any hint as to where I should look? On the client side, DNS seems to work flawlessly. Resolving the server's hostname works. And on the server side, the hostname is configured correctly (or at least, so I would think...).
[16:06] <ScottK> Not really.
[16:07] <th3_b0b> I just noticed that I can ping the server using it's histname, but cannot ping the client from the server using the client's hostname
[16:11] <Alan> crap... does ubuntu server not actually have any decent virtualisation support?
[16:11] <Alan> Seems every option involves raping my kernel, which i'd like to avoid doing because i'm running software RAID5....
[16:11] <andol> Alan: KVM?
[16:12] <Alan> andol: ok, let me refine to "non-hardware-virtualisation"
[16:12] <Alan> my CPU is too old to have virt exts
[16:13] <Alan> it seems that support for everything else has been dropped though
[16:13] <Alan> well, xen and vserver anyway
[16:14] <Alan> and virtualbox is being spazzy, but  taht might be my only option...
[17:04] <VK7HSE> On my IBM eserver 220 I have to over ride the default in grub as kernel 2.6.31-11-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 25 06:37:51 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux will not detect the ServeRAID 4LX card unless ACPI is set to disable... however on the 2.6.28-15-server kernel this was not necessary ... any clues as to why this might be happening? I mean I would have thought that ACPI standard wouldn't have changed?
[17:11] <KSid> Hi guys
[17:12] <KSid> If I want to install Intrepid server onto a VirtualPC instance
[17:12] <KSid> Should I use "Minimum System" or "Minumum Virtual Machine"
[17:12] <KSid> I think minimum vm is for VMWare but am not too sure
[17:15] <VK7HSE> KSid: are you referring to the kernel used ?
[17:16] <KSid> Well, I just want to setup a local ubuntu server but am short on disk space. I've noticed hitting F4 gives me those two install options as well as a "Normal" install
[17:17] <KSid> Did a little background reading and those options seem to be similar to how my VPS is set up but am not sure which of those two to pick
[17:17] <VK7HSE> Oh ok... I thought you were referring to the kernel to be used! ... not sure what would be best...
[17:19] <KSid> VK7HSE: No probs, thanks for trying though!
[17:19] <KSid> I'm going for minimal system over vm because I can't find anything that suggest the minimal vm is optimised for anything other than VMWare
[17:19] <KSid> or KVM
[17:20] <VK7HSE> I'm still scratching my head over this ACPI issue! and that the ubuntu server kernel has no installation candidate! ... Gahh! maybe I should go to bed!...
[17:22] <VK7HSE> yet on another karmic system here (desktop) I can install the sever kernel via synaptic! ...  :-/
[17:29]  * VK7HSE back in 6-8 hours! ..
[18:40] <domas> hi! what is correct way of obtaining apache core dumps in ubuntu? :)
[18:47] <domas> probably needs a module...
[18:52]  * domas hacks
[18:59] <silverhead> Hi!
[19:00] <silverhead> Does anyone know how to use a fs different from ext3 with ubuntu-vmbuilder?
[19:05] <maxagaz> do i need to install a pxe to use ltsp ?
[19:54] <giovani> maxagaz: PXE is a client-side concept, you don't install it
[19:55] <giovani> PXE booting typically requires a DHCP server, and a TFTP server
[19:55] <maxagaz> giovani, ok
[19:56] <maxagaz> giovani, i tried to install ltsp but i didn't know i had to run ltsp-build-client
[19:56] <maxagaz> giovani, but there's something i'm wondering about
[19:57] <maxagaz> if i have to ltsp server, how the thin client will know which one it should use ?
[20:02] <centaur5> maxagaz: You have multiple DHCP servers? Is that what you're saying?
[20:05] <maxagaz> centaur5, i don't, but i'd like to understand a thin client knows on which machine to boot
[20:06] <poisonbit> hello
[20:06] <poisonbit> sorry for my english
[20:07] <poisonbit> is there any graphical interface for preseed file creation ?
[20:07] <poisonbit> and management... like fwbuilder, but for preseed
[20:09] <poisonbit> months ago, i saw a .js application, for generate virt machines "command line". Could be cool, something similar but for preseed
[20:11] <poisonbit> also both applications may be used in parallel (a new virt. machine + its preseed file for delpoyment)
[20:11] <poisonbit> deployment
[20:15]  * genii sips and reads https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-using.html
[20:16] <centaur5> maxagaz: You set in the global properties of the DHCP server to boot from the location of your PXE file.
[20:28] <Jad> hi. as ubuntu server offers cloud computing, can a virtual machine span accross several ubuntu servers?
[20:30] <Jad> so that some processes run on one ubuntu server while other processes run on other ubuntu servers
[20:36] <domas> thats good understanding of cloud computing, definitely
[20:38] <Jad> really?
[20:38] <domas> no, not really
[20:38] <Jad> :P
[20:39] <Jad> i know what cloud computing is, the thing with is it has different applications of different vendors
[20:39] <Jad> azure has cloud computing but it has the ability to span workload on multiple pcs
[20:39] <Jad> while cloud computing of ubuntu maybe different
[20:44] <Jad> if i network connect several ubuntu servers, what applications that can run on ubuntu support clouding?
[20:46] <Jad> or simply, is the cloud computing method of ubuntu similar to azure cloud computing model?
[20:54] <Jad> the website doesn't explain much about the cloud model of ubuntu
[20:55] <Jad> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition/cloud
[21:00] <ghostlines> everytime I mount an external ntfs drive, the ownership gets automatically changed to root
[21:01] <ghostlines> I then try and change the ownership, the terminal takes a while to do this operation and when it's done the ownership is still set to root
[21:28] <domas> where did bigloo go from ubuntu
[21:28] <domas> damn
[21:50] <albatross> Hello. I'm new to linuxservers and I've got some trouble with outgoing mail after tampering with the mailserver-settings. Does anyone know how to go back to the default settings without doing a reinstallation of the entire server. Perhaps just removing the mailserver and installing again?
[21:52] <albatross> Or for that matter, does anyone know a good guide for troubleshooting?
[21:55] <guntbert> albatross: mail servers can be difficult beasts - you could remove it completely with sudo aptitude  purge <package> (I guess postfix)
[21:56] <albatross> guntbert, actually i've tried that..
[21:56] <albatross> did nothing good...
[21:57] <ScottK> sudo dpkg-reconfigure [packagename]
[21:58] <albatross> will try that. thanks.
[21:58] <albatross> If it does not work, is there any way to "trace the mail" to se where it goes wrong?
[21:59] <ScottK> What mail server package are you using?
[21:59] <guntbert> albatross: in any case there should be log files /var/log/mail...
[22:00] <albatross> the one you get when you choose mailserver at install. postfix i belive.
[22:00] <ScottK> Then /var/log/mail.log will have all the details.  Postfix is very meticulous about logging.
[22:01] <albatross> tried following this guide and it all went up in smoke. http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[22:01] <albatross> ok. will take a look
[22:02] <ScottK> albatross: Which Ubuntu release are you using?
[22:03] <albatross> 9.04
[22:04] <albatross> this is the log
[22:04] <albatross> http://pastebin.com/m6a5e137e
[22:04] <albatross> I see the error, but do not know how to fix it.
[22:04] <ScottK> albatross: I recommend using https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/email-services.html as it's written with Ubuntu developers.
[22:04]  * ScottK looks
[22:04] <albatross> tnx
[22:05] <ScottK> Why are you trying to send mail to example.com?
[22:08] <albatross> Is that what is going on.. I'm not, as far as i know..
[22:08] <albatross> Seems I need to check the mailscript..
[22:09] <albatross> hmm..
[22:09] <ScottK> That's what the log says.
[22:10] <albatross> And that was right. What a miss.. Did not fix the script before testing.
[22:11] <albatross> Didn't work when fixed, but after  sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix did the trick
[22:11] <albatross> Can I bother to ask what that command does? dpkg?
[22:14] <guntbert> !apt | albatross
[22:14] <ScottK> man dpkg-reconfigure should have details.
[22:15] <albatross> Thank you for your help!
[23:38] <iclebyte> i am having the most horrific experience with apache on ubuntu-server. I have 'NameVirtualHost *' defined in 000-default in sites-enabled. I have decrescent.com defined which works however my entry of dev.decrescent.com keeps reverting to the default virtual host. my dns is correct. could someone look at my dev.decrescent.com virtual host definition? http://pastebin.ca/1580713
[23:56] <poisonbit> iclebyte, have you try to use  <VirtualHost *:80>  and to eliminate that unuseful alias (your ServerName is equal to your ServerAlias)
[23:56] <poisonbit> ?
[23:57] <poisonbit> for use *, i put NameVirtualHost      *:80
[23:58] <poisonbit> and then  <VirtualHost *:80> ServerName foo.tld   ServerAlias  www.foo.tld </VirtualHost>
[23:59] <poisonbit> and have to do the same for :443