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gigawattanyone here/00:23
techiemaybe00:23
gigawattha00:23
techiethe invisible man might be sitting in the corner, you would never know00:24
knomegigawatt, we are all actually dead and not here00:24
gigawattwell i'm running xubuntu on an MSI wind and out of no where the wireless device stopped working. here is the output of dmesg and the lspci for the device http://pastebin.com/m4533093400:24
knomeit's just an illusion00:24
knomegigawatt, after what it stopped working? do you have any idea you might have done?00:25
gigawatti was trying to connect to an access point, it wasn't connected so using nm-applet i disabled and renabled wireless then it now says from nm-applet "device not read"00:27
gigawatty00:27
knomehave you tried booting?00:27
gigawattrebooting?00:27
gigawattyes00:27
knomeokay. is it a laptop or desktop machine?00:27
gigawattlaptop00:28
knomeokay. is there any kind of wireless button?00:28
gigawatti'm on it right now, hardwired00:28
gigawattyeah and it's on00:28
knomehave you tried to turn it off and on again?00:28
gigawattyep multiple times00:29
knomeokay. is it an eeepc?00:29
gigawatti had this problem before and used a usb wireless card then the problem fixed itself00:29
gigawattit's an msi wind00:29
knomeoh, right. sometimes the wireless card gets shut down from the pcs bios and you have to turn it on again00:29
gigawattok00:30
knomei don't know why this happens, but i've experienced it maybe once or twice.00:30
gigawattso i should go check the bios00:30
knomeas the wireless button works, i'm pretty sure it's on, but checking won't do any harm00:30
gigawatti'll be right back00:30
knomeokay00:30
gigawattok00:37
knomestill does not work?00:37
gigawattso i went into the bios and said "reset to default" and now it works00:37
knomeokay. :)00:37
gigawattthere was no specific option for wireless00:37
knomegood to hear it is working00:38
gigawattbut i guess that could be an offical fix for this problem00:38
knomethat shouldn't really happen in the first place00:38
knomebut this is one way to fix it once it has happened00:38
knomedid you had to do a incorrect shutdown or something?00:39
knome(before then nm-applet episode)00:39
gigawattnot really00:40
knomeif you want to (possibly) help ubuntu, you might to do a bug report, but i'm not sure how useful that would be in the end, if there is no clear reason why it happened00:40
gigawatti dunno wireless and linux still is a beast00:40
gigawattok what info would be good the dmesg errors?00:41
knomeyeah, i suppose00:41
knomeand that pastebinned info00:42
gigawattok will do00:42
gigawatti have an account already at the bug site00:42
gigawattthanks00:42
knomealso please include the workaround in the bug so others can profit from it immediately00:42
knomeno problem, have fun using xubuntu!00:43
gigawatt2 years and counting00:43
gigawattxubuntu > ubuntu in my book00:43
knomethat's always nice to hear00:43
knomei am contributing to xubuntu and trying to make it as good as possible, of course00:44
gigawatti'm hoping to get to the point where i can contribute00:45
knomegigawatt, once you are ready for that, be sure to check out http://xubuntu.org/contribute :)00:45
knomealso, you can join #xubuntu-devel and look around, if you want00:45
gigawattyeah00:47
gigawattthanks00:47
knomeagain, no problem :)00:47
knomenew contributors are always needed00:47
knomeeven people who are just giving support here in #xubuntu00:48
visitor1hi people04:36
visitor1anybody could please help a newbie with anfd install under xubuntu?04:38
techiesure04:50
visitor1hi techie04:50
techiewhats anfd?04:52
visitor1http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Skripte/anfd#source-404:52
visitor1sorry its in german04:52
visitor1aint no firewall daemon04:52
visitor1it enables you to block programms the internt04:53
techiemight it be easier to use an alternative daemon?04:53
visitor1dont know04:53
visitor1i want to block for example adobe reader from phoning home04:54
techiei see04:55
techiesudo apt-get install libiptables-ipv4-ipqueue-perl libnet-cidr-perl libnet-rawip-perl04:57
visitor1yes i managed to install the packages04:58
techiefrom there its a simple script04:58
visitor1but i dont know how to "use" the script?04:58
techiehave you downloaded it?04:58
visitor1yes its on the desktop04:58
techiecopy or move it to /usr/local/sbin/04:59
techiesudo cp anfd /usr/local/sbin/04:59
techienow you should be able to run it by running anfd from terminal05:01
visitor1hmm its andf.txt, have to rename it05:01
techiekk05:01
techiesudo mv anfd.txt /usr/local/sbin/anfd05:01
visitor1ok copied it, but if i try to start it with anfd it say permission denied?05:03
techiesudo chmod +x /usr/local/sbin/anfd05:04
killertcell!ops kline me05:04
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ops kline me05:04
killertcell!ops05:04
ubottuops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild charlie-tca or cody-somerville05:04
visitor1Can't locate IPTables/IPv4/IPQueue.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/sbin/anfd line 17.05:04
visitor1BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/sbin/anfd line 17.05:04
techieone sec, killertcell what was your reason for calling the ops?05:05
killertcellubuntu sucks05:06
techie*sigh* trollz05:06
visitor1get a life killertcell05:06
techiejust ignore him, hes just trolling05:06
visitor1i get this error message whis is rather bad? error in the script?05:07
visitor1which05:07
techiesudo apt-get install libperl5.1005:08
visitor1its already the newest version05:09
techiehrmm05:09
techiei have found an alternative that you could use05:11
techiehttp://my.opera.com/ubuntunerd1/blog/h-205:11
visitor1yes?05:11
techieshould be alot easier with a GUI05:11
visitor1i have already installed firestarter05:13
techiedid you give that a go?05:13
visitor1but it wont autostart at boot , says something about no permission?05:13
visitor1didnt know that you could configure outgoing connections with firestarter, thanks05:13
techieim not sure about starting at boot05:14
visitor1why?05:16
techiei havent worked with custom init.d's in ages05:17
visitor1hmm just looking at firestarter, it seems you cant specify a concret programm?05:19
techiei would have no idea, i dont use such firewalls05:20
visitor1i mean if i allow http for opera than any other software could connect t the internet05:21
techieyes as long as it uses port 8005:22
visitor1so this anfd should allow one to specify a program name which is explicity denied internet access05:23
techiewell, do you know whta port what you want to block uses?05:25
visitor1no idea, therefore it should work by the programm name05:26
visitor1well maybe i will have to open a thread in the gemran wiki, something in the script isnt working05:29
techiei may have found another alternative05:30
visitor1yes?05:30
techieUFW, im setting it up now ill let you know if it works05:30
visitor1thanks a lot :)05:30
techienope, taht only blocked incoming05:31
visitor1i see05:33
visitor1well like i said i will try the wiki thread, thanks for your friendly help :)05:34
techiestick around05:34
techieill keep looking05:34
techiefound one i think05:40
techiehttp://fireflier.sourceforge.net/features.html05:40
visitor1i will look at it , thanks05:49
balsaqtechie can you help my dad get set up...i ordered himpuppy and he orfered ubuntu07:40
balsaqhe's 80 but very good with compouters...may not need much help07:41
Techiein game atm07:44
balsaqno problem he doesn't even have  yet...will have puppy in a couple days, prolly won't get ubuntu for 2-3 weeks07:46
Techiehow good is he with computers?07:51
balsaqwell he has been buying them cheap and then fixing them up and reselling the, for about 5 years now07:52
balsaqpretty good buy has always done windows07:53
Techiefair enough07:53
Techiehe probably wont need much help getting it set up07:53
balsaqprolly not, but i wonder about puppy07:53
Techiehe might need some help doing things such as installing drivers and that07:54
balsaqsmart guy used to buily really cool remote control airplanes in the late 50's early 60's...big ones07:54
Techiehehe, my dad used to do the whole RC thing07:55
balsaqhe likes the puppy/opera idea but he has ubuntu on the way as a back up07:55
Techiewe have to try convince him to use ubuntu rather than puppy as it will cause him less stress in the long run07:56
balsaqthe stuff he has lying around is stuff that has 20-40gig hard drive so it is relatively modern07:56
Techieyeah07:58
balsaqhard to beat ubuntu...my altec lansing speakers worked immediately...printer, my dsl  all of it, i didn't do anything07:58
Techiegrr i hate itunes07:58
Techieit took all my music and put it all into folders07:58
balsaqis xubuntu like ubuntu when it comes to installing it07:59
Techieyep08:00
Techieexactly the same08:00
balsaqplug and play no messin around08:00
Techieyep08:00
Techie*sigh* now i gotta make a script to move all my music back08:00
balsaqso really that is the best one then seems like puppy without the lilissues08:00
Techie*sigh* i REALLY HAT iTunes08:01
Techie8.61GB of music put into 1615 folders08:01
balsaqhow much HD do you have on that celry08:02
Techie120gb windows + 190gb storage + 7gb linux08:03
balsaqand here i am with an 10g hd, man i am waaay behind the times08:03
balsaqbut we got the g408:03
Techieis there anyone her thats good with bash scripting?08:06
Balsaquetechie: do you use an anti virues program woth ubuntu08:20
Techienope08:21
Techietbh i dont even use antivirus in windows08:21
Balsaquei go tsophos on the g4 but nothing on the ubuntu computer08:21
Techieif you dont go download everything that pops up on your screen, your not gonna get many viruses08:21
Techiewith ubuntu you will most likely be installing from the repos, no viruses there08:22
Balsaquei suppose if i get something i'll justn reinstall...no i really dont dload...so far just hat flash i asked you about08:22
Balsaquethat flash player is the only pop up i have seen on ubuntu08:23
Techieand even that was downloaded from the repo's08:23
Balsaquethe advertising type pop ups have never shown up at all now that you mention it08:23
Techiebecause theres no malware08:24
Balsaquedo you do a clean reinstall every so often to to clean it up or is that not needed08:25
Techienot needed08:25
Balsaquetoo good to be true...08:25
Balsaquei spent hours on end messin aroound in my windows registry08:25
Techiewell its not a necessity08:25
Techieit feels soo good to have all my music in one folder again08:26
Balsaquedo i even have a registry now?08:27
Techienope08:27
Techiewell maybe08:27
Techietbh ive never looked into that sort of stuff on *buntu08:27
Balsaqueive clicked on most of my icons...but i really haven't run into anything very technical08:28
Balsaquei maade it so FF wipes it all clean everytime and no autocomplete or anything like that08:29
Techiethats the beaty of *buntu you dont see anything technical in the GUI all the technocal stuff is in the command line08:30
Balsaquewhere is that08:30
Techieterminal08:30
Balsaquewhere is thatone08:31
Techiein the menu under accessories i think08:31
Techieim not in ubuntu atm so i wouldnt be able to say08:31
Balsaquedont recall that08:31
Balsaqueim havin so much fun not fixin things i am getiing alil lazy08:31
Balsaqueonce in windows i found an installed program oon my computer called "interstitial search agent"....so i resaerchd it and found it was not windows so i went into add remove and removed it but it never went away, until i got hijack this08:34
Balsaquea lot of the stuff i found couldnt even be removed by hijack this but it just got put in some weird room..like a jail for malware08:35
Balsaquecan't believe i am not doing that anymore08:35
Techiehehe08:35
Balsaqueevr have to do thet08:36
Techienope08:36
Balsaquewhat most people are doing around here is buying a windows computer, letting the registry get gunked up ove a coouple years, then the computer wont run right, so they buy a whole new windows computer08:37
Techieyeah08:38
Techiebut i suppose thats good for you and me08:38
Balsaquexause they don;t now its even gunked up..they dorks at best buy tell themits out-dated and they believe them and buy another one08:38
Techiewell, it is outdated08:39
Techiebut not obsolete08:39
Balsaqueif i had known about buntu before my in laws would have given 4-5 reqally modern computers that they thought were smoked and i found out the other day they gave to some guy to " haul away"08:39
Techieomg08:39
Balsaquemost people know nothing and i mean nothing about windows08:41
Balsaqueso now he muys the "accidental damage warranty"..so when they start "running funny" HE LITERALLY CAN DROP IT OUT A WINDOW AND GET ANOTHER ONE08:42
BalsaqueMUYS+BUYS08:42
Techielol08:43
Balsaquei am serious at best buy they are now getting 300-400 for extra warranties on a computer that cost 500-1000 because noone knows the problem is really windows08:45
Techieyep08:47
Balsaquei am meeting with the guy at our company that deals with giving away all those dells tomorrow...08:48
Techiecool08:50
Balsaquewifes a teacher and technically schools are non profit so i am gooing to find out if that will get into the pipeline08:51
Techiehello GaeliX08:57
Techieim gonna go watch some tv08:58
Balsaquelater...08:59
Dave332Hello09:55
Dave332would anyone here be able to help with my xubuntu booting problem?09:56
Dave332any people here able to help?09:59
Balsaqueill try just put in ubuntu but i am no expert10:02
Dave332hey thanks10:02
Dave332i dont think its Xu specific10:03
Dave332ok i installed xubuntu today and it went quite well10:03
Dave332it had over 100 updates so i updated and let it restart10:03
Dave332now when it boots it stops after the black xubunu screen on a light blue desktop screen , but with nothing10:04
Dave332its not frozen as i can ctrl-alt-del but it just wont load any further10:04
Balsaquenot even one icon?10:04
Dave332nope10:04
Dave332i tried safemode but no help there10:04
Balsaquehow long did you wait from the time it went to the blue screen10:05
Dave332the hdd light stops flashing after about 10 seconds and just nothing happens10:05
Dave332half an hour once10:05
Balsaquehow old is the puter10:05
Dave332old10:05
Dave332but fairly reliable10:05
Dave332early 200110:06
Dave332been running fine for years on windows me (yuck lol)10:06
Balsaquei heard that xu sort of maps you map things out yorself more so than ubu...i just came out of 11 years of hell fromw9810:07
Balsaquemakes you i meant not maps you10:07
Dave332ahh10:07
Dave332lol10:07
Balsaqueare you doing xu fro a specific reason10:07
Dave332like the next stage in the boot is for the resolution to change down then normal desktop runs10:08
Dave332umm no i just read its good for older computers10:08
Balsaquewell i say this cause mine puter is from 1998 and ubu went right in with no fooling around10:08
Balsaquethen did 349 updates no problem10:08
Dave332lol nice10:09
Dave332yea the updates were successful but now it just cant be stuffed booting right10:09
Balsaquexu...i have heard is for people who are more experienced at creating the pathways to make the thing really work,10:10
Dave332ohh10:10
Dave332i thuaght it was basically the same except the desktop runs easier on older comps?10:10
Balsaquei am shooting from the hip here but i did it knowing NOTHING and it went in and my sound and printer and pathe to dsl was all done for me10:11
Dave332ok10:12
Balsaqueso its in there and the updates are done but you haqve a blue screen and it wont operate?10:12
Techieheya dave10:12
Balsaquethank god he is here10:12
* Techie waves10:12
Techienever fear "I" is here10:13
Dave332its not like a windows blue screen, its just the background colour without a desktop pic, and it fails to load the rest10:13
Dave332hey techie10:13
Techiei know what you mean dave10:13
Dave332oh mean10:13
Techieits as though xfce is stalling10:13
Dave332yea10:13
Techieyou know how to use tty consoles?10:13
Dave332so it is a Xu specific problem?10:13
Dave332nope sorry10:14
Techiehrmm, lets try use ubottu10:14
Techie!tty10:14
ubottuTo get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution.10:14
Techieyay10:14
Techienow let me think10:14
Techiei think you want to run startxfce4 --display :010:14
Techiei think10:14
Techiejust a wild stab, havent actually used xubuntu in awhilke10:15
Dave332the screen is in some high 1100+ x 800+ then it should go to 1024x76810:15
Dave332wow thanks10:15
Dave332ok ima try that10:15
Techiemost likely wont work10:15
Dave332comps in other end of house ima be fit after tonight :P10:15
Techielol10:15
Dave332brxb10:15
Techieyou do know if you got savvy you could setup VNC and everything using a TTY console and remote it to fix it10:16
Techiebye bal you got mplayer installed?10:17
Techiehey*10:17
Techieor VLC10:17
TechieBalsaque- do you have mplayer or vlc installed?10:18
Balsaqueo i am on th g4 it is my wifes....where do i look for it10:19
Techieoh, in that case10:19
Techiego into quicktime10:19
Balsaquehang toght10:20
Balsaque\itunes?10:20
Techiequicktime10:20
Dave332i get start:need to be root10:21
Techiethen issue the command usign sudo10:21
Dave332sorry lol im new to linux command lines10:21
Techiethats alright, were here to help10:21
Dave332:p thanks10:22
Techiefound quicktime yet bal?10:22
Dave332so "usign sudo"?10:22
Balsaquewent to file and typed in quicktime and got 103 items?10:22
Techiesudo startxfce4 --display :010:22
Techieits the one in the applications folder10:23
Dave332oh ty10:23
Dave332brxb10:23
Dave332i get the error "command not found"10:24
Techieone sec i gotta look for the correct command, it may be start-xfce410:25
Dave332ok ty10:25
Balsaquefound it10:25
Balsaquelotta stuff in heer emote stuff aqnd all10:26
Techiein the top bar under the quicktiem menu10:26
Techieselect open URK10:26
TechieURL*10:26
Techieslap this in there10:26
Techiehttp://www.babyloveclub.com.au/videos/number3.flv10:26
Techieits a tv ad that was just on before10:26
Balsaquegot qtime if you still need it10:27
Techiestart up quicktime and to what i said before10:27
Techieumm dave try start-xfce4 instead10:28
Dave332ok ty brb10:28
Techieif that doesnt work it might be that you no longer have xfce10:28
Dave332sudo:start-xfce4--display:0:command not found10:30
Balsaqueclicking on quicktime and nothingcomes up10:30
Techiek, dont worry then bal10:30
Balsaquewill keep lookin...10:31
Techieumm, did you enter it as sudo:start....10:31
Techieor sudo start....10:31
Dave332nope10:31
Techiebecause sudo:start will not work10:31
Dave332i just wrote what it yelled at me back10:31
Techieokay10:31
Techieumm10:31
Dave332sudo start-xfce4--display:010:31
Techierun this then10:32
Techieapt-get install xorg gdm xfce4 leafpad synaptic10:32
Techiewait10:32
Dave332woahg?10:32
Techieapt-get install xorg gdm xfce4 synaptic10:33
Techiewrite it down10:33
Techieoh youll need to do it using sudo aswell10:33
Techiesudo apt-get install xorg gdm xfce4 synaptic10:33
Dave332ok just wrote it10:33
Dave332brb10:33
Dave332mean10:37
Dave332it did a whole bunch of downloading and installing10:38
Techiegood10:38
Dave332now its finished and wanting me to tell it what to do10:38
Dave332can i boot now?10:38
Techierestart it10:38
Dave332ok10:38
Techiesudo shutdown -r NOW10:38
Balsaquegot somthing in front of me know thaTSAYS OTS QUCK TIME STILL NEED IT10:38
Dave332inculde the NOW?10:38
Techieyes10:38
Dave332ok10:38
Techiedont worry about it bal10:39
Balsaqueok10:39
Techieyou might be able to watch it online10:39
Techiehttp://www.babyloveclub.com.au/?Poopoopouch10:39
Techiethe click here to watch our new TV ad button10:40
Dave332awww stink ow10:42
Dave332it rebooted and the same thing happens10:42
Techiewell that sucks10:43
Dave332can i run that earlier command but with gnome instead of xfce?10:43
Techieyeah but you will have to install gnome10:43
Techiesudo apt-get install gnome10:44
Dave332can it just download for me like it did with xfce?10:44
Techieyeah10:44
Techiesudo apt-get install gnome10:44
Dave332or would you recommend the k one?10:44
Techiegnome for *buntu10:45
Dave332ok10:45
Dave332so just sudo apt-get install gnome ?10:46
Techieyep10:47
Dave332ok brgb10:47
Dave332shiiiiiiit10:48
Techiewhat?10:48
Dave332144mb ffrom archives10:48
Techieyeah10:49
Techieyour installing a whole new display manager10:49
Dave332should i do it or just install a clean ubuntu?10:49
Techiea clean *buntu would be better10:49
Techiewhat are the specs of your system?10:49
Dave332600mhz, 384mbs ram , 32mb dedicated gfx10:50
Balsaque(hmmm...ole baby luv wasn't so far off after all...)10:50
Techiehrmm, might want to stick with xubuntu, if you had more RAM i would say use ubuntu, however you can try ubuntu if you wish10:51
Dave332isnt that a decent amount of ram for a late 2000 comp?10:51
Techieyeah10:52
Techieput it this way10:52
Dave332i think ill just put a clean ubuntu on10:52
Techieubuntu will run very happily10:52
Dave332but xu would be turbo?10:52
Techiebit faster10:52
Dave332haha10:53
Techieonly due to the lightweight front end10:53
Techieubuntu-server would be faster10:53
Techieno front end10:53
Dave332hahaha10:53
Dave332yea but my brother who will be using it is not a power use , hed just be using firefox, thunderbird, and a bit of open office10:54
Techiethen ubuntu it is10:55
Dave332its quicker for me to dl Ub, burn, install , than xu would be dling gnome lol10:55
Techiereally, you got a mirror thats hosted on the same ISP?10:55
Balsaquethere was a guy on the other channel who said he had xp running on 256 ram ill bet ubuntu will do well on384 Dave10:55
Dave332oh mean ty10:56
Techiebal theres a difference between running and running well10:56
Dave332umm the ub archives were getting about 40 kbs somewhere here10:56
Techietheres a reason i upgraded my dell machine from 256mb DDR333 to 512mb10:56
Dave332and the ubuntu isos going at 800kbish10:56
Dave332lol ok10:57
Techiedang, must be on the same ISP10:57
Balsaquei saw a 256 stick on ebay fro 6.99 some of those typres of ram are so cheap now10:58
Dave332dont think its isp but im mirroring the dl 8 times and servers not that far from here10:58
Dave332wow10:58
Techielucky you, if i had a mirror on my isp it would cost me to download11:00
Dave332lol11:00
Dave332my isps real bs11:00
Dave332pay 50 bucks a month for unlimited, got a real slow upload, and dl ranges from 20kb/s to 800kb/s ish11:02
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techie_im back11:05
techie_i locked up windows playing around with unstable video output codecs in mplayer11:05
Dave332oh i see why my 360 wont connect, ubuntus stealing all the net11:05
Dave332two techies?11:05
Dave332haha awsoume11:05
Dave332hey one problem i did have on xubuntu11:06
techie_...11:06
Dave332it wouldnt recognise my other hdd11:06
techie_what format?11:06
Dave332fat3211:06
techie_kk, ubuntu will handle that out of the box11:06
techie_what size is the drive?11:07
Dave33210gb11:07
Dave332lol11:07
techie_same as bal's11:07
techie_any data on it?11:07
Dave332a 7 and a 3 gb partition11:07
Dave332yup11:07
Dave332windows ME11:07
Dave332and other crap11:07
techie_kk, so we dont want to go formatting it11:07
Dave332haha11:08
Dave332that hdd used to be the master11:08
Dave332with this 40gb as a slave11:08
Dave332so i swapped11:08
techie_you are aware that fat32 has a maximum filesize of 4gig?11:08
Dave332made a 25gb partition on the 40 as ubuntus and left the rest as a general one11:08
Dave332yea11:08
Dave332none of the files come close to that11:09
techie_umm11:09
techie_if your just gonna run ubuntu, and not dualboot or anything11:09
Dave332but i am11:09
techie_oh11:09
Dave332ME fails but its funny11:09
techie_lol11:09
techie_you do realise ubuntu will do everything ME can and more?11:10
Dave332yea11:10
techie_then why keep ME?11:10
Dave332thatts why the 40gb is for ub and the 10 is for me11:10
techie_oh lol11:11
Dave332i dont see why i should wipe for a few extra gigs i wont use11:11
Dave332+ ME is mean oldschool11:11
techie_okay that does bring back my suggestion11:11
Dave332now my vista explorer has dissapeared11:11
techie_if ME doesnt use your 15gig partition11:11
techie_then set up ubuntu with one partition for swap and one partition for root "/"11:12
techie_that way you can dump files anywhere in ubuntu and you wont run out of space11:12
Dave332what exactly is a swap btw11:13
techie_virtual memory11:14
Dave332oh11:14
techie_its space used in conjunction with your RAM to make writing to RAM more efficient11:14
Dave332yea i think it tried to do that11:14
Dave332when it asked mer about partitions i made the 25 ubuntu and who knows what happend to the rest11:15
Dave332i dont the the whole / linux disk things11:15
techie_okay when it asks you11:15
techie_go custom11:15
techie_new partition map11:16
Dave332oh11:16
techie_make a new partition of 1024mb or 1 gig at the end of the drive and make it swap area11:16
Dave332its mean fast at the end aye?11:16
techie_then make another with the left over free space make it ext3 and mount it to /11:16
techie_yeah, well its out of the way11:16
Dave332oh yuck i hate all the / mounting things11:17
techie_this will make it easier11:17
Dave332ok11:17
Dave332ubs burning11:17
=== techie_ is now known as Techie
Techiewelcome back11:30
Techiehello abra11:32
abrahello11:32
visitor1techi i just blacklisted the manufacturer ips in firestarter11:33
Techiecool11:33
visitor1i think its not as safe as blacklisting the whole programm but i cant manage that11:33
Techiekk11:34
Balsaqtechie can you tell from where you sit what happened to my connection awhile ago?11:39
TechieBalsaq, i cant see any disconnections or anything back in my logs11:41
Dave332hey techie11:41
Techiehey Dave33211:41
Dave332im up to partitioning for ubuntu now11:41
Techiekk11:41
Techie1024mb @ end = swap area11:42
Techiethe rest = ext3 @ /11:42
Dave332so 13 gb fat32 at start for general storage, 25gb ext3 linux  , then 1gb swap?11:42
Dave332or should the first 2 be swapped?11:43
Techieumm, you can swap the first 2 if you want11:43
Dave332ok11:43
Dave332and which one(s) primary and logical?11:43
Techieprimary for all11:43
Dave332ok11:43
Dave332tyvm11:44
Techieyou can have up to 4 primary partitions11:44
Dave332brub11:44
Dave332ok11:44
Techieon one drive11:44
Dave332oh lol i ran back to ask that11:44
Techiehaha11:44
Dave332so max 4 each?11:44
Techieyeah11:44
Techieyoul eb fine11:44
Dave332what about mount pointgs?11:46
Dave332leave those blank?11:46
Techiemount point for ext3 = /11:46
Dave332the options are /dos or /windows?11:46
Techiefor the fat32 drive use /windows11:47
Dave332ok11:47
Dave332fat-/win ext-/ swap-/?11:47
Techiefor swap the mount point is grayed out11:48
Dave332oh ok lol11:48
Techiewelcome back GaeliX11:49
Techiels12:16
Dave332bacon12:17
Techieeggs12:17
Techieso Dave332 hows it going?12:18
Dave332haha12:20
Dave332pretty good12:20
Dave332ill just check up on it12:20
Dave332brub12:20
Dave33294%12:21
Techieanyone here seen the 1985 film, the breakfast club?12:22
Dave332oh12:23
Dave332that was on tv the other week12:23
Dave332forgot to watch it12:23
Techiewhat channel?12:24
Dave332umm12:24
Dave3324 here12:24
Dave332what country do you live in?12:24
TechieNZ12:24
Dave332haha12:24
Dave332what a12:24
Dave332same12:24
TechieBFS!!!12:24
Dave332I KNO!12:24
Dave332!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:25
Dave332it was on c4 the other week12:25
Techieyeah12:25
Techiepart of a tribute12:25
Dave332yea12:25
Techiethe director died in august12:25
Dave332ahh12:25
Dave332oh tribute to him i thuaght it was tribute to the 80s lol12:25
Techienow that i know your in NZ aswell, who is your ISP?12:26
Dave332telecon12:26
* Techie facepalms12:26
Dave332hahahahaha12:26
Dave332i got that golarge plan12:26
Techieyeah, unfortunately they dont provide it anymore12:26
Dave332yea12:27
Techieotherwise i would be on it12:27
Dave332that was like 05 or summin?12:27
Techieyeah i think so12:27
Techieim with Xnet12:27
Dave332oh12:27
Dave332never heard of them lol12:27
Techie$24 base fee for line speed down and 128k up12:27
Techiethen $1.02 per gig12:27
Techieits really awesome because you only pay for what you use, and if you go over you get speed restrictions but you dont pay for anything over12:28
Techieand you dont have to get bandwidth in packs, you can get as much or as little as you like12:29
Techieooh i think recoil may have ubuntu on their host which means FRE BANDWIDTH12:32
Dave332back finally12:53
Dave332thats a nice plan oi12:53
Techieunfortunately recoils ftp is no longer running12:55
Dave332damn12:55
Dave332i was dling from the ihug server and i got just around 800kb to my amazement12:56
Dave332brbcheese13:00
Dave332hey techie?13:10
Techieyo13:12
Dave332ok for my 3d gfx drivers13:13
Techiecard?13:13
Dave332yup13:13
Dave332install the nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-settings packages13:13
Techieare those the correct package names?13:14
Dave332so "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-settings"13:14
Dave332yup13:14
Techieyep13:14
Dave332mean13:14
Dave332ill do that now13:14
Techiedangit, the only xnet server for linux i can find are Fedora and Cent13:31
Techieanyway i should probably get some sleep13:32
Dave332yea same lol13:34
Dave332i just wanna get this gfx driver sorted13:34
Dave332thanks heaps for your help today techie :)13:35
Techieno problem Dave332 i should be on tommorow if you need more help13:37
Dave332thanks13:37
Dave332and thanks to balsaq even tho hes gone lol13:38
Dave332ladaz13:38
EseHi, I just rebooted my laptop and apparently xubuntu reset my resolution right now it's 1024x768, it's native resolution it's 1366x76815:05
Eseit always has worked that way with 1366x76815:06
EseI don't know why it just change it15:06
Eseif I run xrandr on terminal it list 1366x768 as an available resolution15:06
Esebut if i run xrandr -s 1366x768 it says "Size 1366x768 not found in available modes"15:07
jmcandone of my cd dvd drives stopped showing when a dvd is  inserted which command can I use to investigate where the problem is?15:11
fizzlehey im having problems installing the latest PPC version.19:49
fizzlei cant get my powermac to even book the livecd.19:50
fizzleboot the cd :/19:50
=== fizzlex is now known as fizzle
ryguyWhen I open a link on desktop 2 (on IRC for example) and my web browser is already open on desktop 1, I'd like to have it automatically switch from desktop 2 to desktop 1, rather than having the web browser be brought over to desktop 2. Is there a way to do this?20:36
knomeryguy, iirc, that was some focus setting of firefox20:39
ryguyahh, I'm using google chrome20:40
knomemaybe it also has a setting for that then20:41
ryguyfirefox is too hefty for my computer (pentium III - 600 mHz)20:41
ryguynope, nothing20:42
=== Gordon is now known as GSherman
GShermanAnyone here?20:49
ryguyhey20:50
geniiApparently. How many are awake...another matter20:50
ryguywhatcha need20:50
genii!ask20:51
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)20:51
ryguyguess not, eh?20:52
* genii slides ryguy a coffee20:53
ryguyheh, nice20:53
ryguyso today at work (I'm a pizza cook) my crazy bitch coworker left the pizza oven door open and I didnt know about it and was right behind it20:54
ryguyso I go to put away veggies i just chopped and turned around20:54
geniiOuch20:54
ryguyi not have a second degree brun on my arm >_<20:54
ryguyI come home and xubuntu 9.10 finished installing. I was happy till I found out it erased my conkyrc20:55
ryguyso now I gotta remake it from scratch20:55
ryguybad day20:55
GShermanHello?21:13
BMasiakhowdy21:14
GShermanI have a problem and was wondering if anyone would be interested in helping me solve it.21:14
BMasiakshoot21:14
GShermanI have a netbook. No cd/dvd drive. I'm having to install xubuntu through a usb thumb drive.21:15
BMasiakok21:15
GShermanI get through the entire installation process and then when it goes to boot21:15
GShermani get a "no bootmgr" error21:15
GSherman=/21:15
ryguywhat version xubuntu do you have on the usb drive?21:16
GShermanJaunty Jackalope21:16
GShermanVersion 9.0421:16
BMasiakdid it ask during installation which drive to install the bootmgr to?21:16
GShermanNo.21:16
ryguydo you have other operating systems installed on your computer?21:17
GShermanNone.21:17
GShermanI gave up trying to get xp on it.21:17
ryguylol good21:17
GShermanhaha21:17
BMasiaklol21:18
ryguyhow did you install it onto the usb drive?21:18
BMasiaknever installed it off a usb drive myself, but wondering if the installation tried to modify the bootmgr on the usb instead of the internal HD...21:18
GShermanLinuxLive_USB_Creator_2.0_RC121:18
ryguywhats the exact error you get?21:19
ryguyalso, can you boot ubuntu live?21:21
GShermani haven't tried to yet21:22
GShermani am re-installing right now.21:22
GShermanwhen it's done, if i get an error i'll let you know exactly what it says21:22
ryguywell, we'll be here21:22
ryguywhen its done, tell me by typing "ryguy: its done" or something so I get a popup message21:23
GShermanokie dokie21:23
GShermanOkay21:27
GShermanryguy: its done21:27
ryguyalright, you still gettiin the error?21:27
GShermansays BOOTMGR is missing21:27
ryguykk21:27
ryguynow is the usb in there?21:27
ryguyconnected21:28
ryguyand can you boot into live?21:28
GShermanI haven'tt ried21:28
GShermantried*21:28
GShermanI will now21:28
GShermanIt seems to be attempting it21:31
GShermanstuck on a line though21:31
GSherman"attached scsi generic sg2 type 0"21:31
ryguyfor how long?21:31
GShermanbeen like 5 minutes21:32
ryguyyou dont have a space cd lying around? I always have trouble installing from a usb drive21:32
ryguyspare*21:32
GShermanI don't have a cd/dvd drive for it21:32
GShermanit did this earlier when it was actually trying to install it21:33
GShermaneventually moved on ahead21:33
ryguyyou cant yoink one temporarily from a different machine?21:33
GShermanIt's a laptop21:33
GShermana netbook21:33
ryguyah21:33
ryguywait so you used the same image before and it worked21:34
GShermani borrowed an external drive but i am thinking my bios doesn't see it =/21:34
GShermanLive worked21:34
ryguydidnt change anything abd reinstalled and now you're having these troubles?21:34
ryguyyou got live runnin?21:34
GShermanYeah21:34
GShermanit's running21:34
ryguycool21:34
GShermantrying to install from live21:34
GShermanmaybed that'll work?21:34
ryguywait21:34
GShermanok21:35
ryguytry opening terminal21:35
ryguyand typing this in21:35
ryguysudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda121:35
GShermani've never touched linux before. how do i get to terminal?21:35
ryguyclick the mouse to open the menu on the panel21:35
ryguythe accessories > terminal21:35
GShermanokay ;got it21:36
ryguywhen thats done, try rebooting non-live21:36
GShermani tryped that line21:36
GShermantyped*21:36
GShermanThis is what it said:21:36
GShermanProbing devices to guess BIOS Drives. This make take a long time.21:37
ryguyyup21:37
GShermanCould not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device21:37
ryguyhm21:37
ryguy1 sec21:37
ryguydo: sudo grub21:38
GShermanokay21:38
GShermandone21:38
ryguynow: find /boot/grub/stage121:38
ryguyand tell me what it says21:38
ryguythis is good btw, it means the boot loader s installed21:38
GShermanit said: (hd0,0)21:38
ryguyis*21:38
ryguyalright now do: root (hd0,0)21:39
GShermandone21:39
ryguynow: setup (hd0)21:39
GShermanbunch of stuff21:40
ryguyoh god21:40
ryguyis it done though?21:40
GShermanyeah21:40
GShermanchecked different stages21:40
ryguyk do quit21:40
ryguyand restart21:40
GShermanran an embed21:40
GShermanokay21:40
ryguyyou just told the bootloader where your boot partition is, so hopefully this will work21:40
GShermanBOOTMGR is missing21:42
GSherman:(21:42
GShermanBOOTMGR is missing21:42
ryguychrist21:42
GSherman:(21:42
ryguytry using this program to put linux onto the usb:21:43
ryguyhttp://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/21:43
GShermanokay21:43
ryguyunetbootin is the only thing ive successfully tried to install ubuntu with from a usb drive21:47
GShermanIt's making it right now.21:49
ryguyso youve never used linux?21:49
ryguyyou're lucky, nowadays its so easy to install and use things. a couple of years ago it was hard as hell.21:50
GShermanYeah, i've been doing some reading21:52
GShermanLooks like it used to be a real pain21:52
GShermanI'm kind of excited to play with it though ^_^21:52
GShermanLearning through use21:52
ryguyyeah, Im never going back to windows. everything is customizable on linux + free21:53
GShermanwww.picotux.com21:54
GShermanThat's pretty sweet21:55
ryguyholy crap thats awesome21:56
ryguyI gotta old toshiba laptop with the screen removed and connected to a usb mouse and a lcd screen21:57
ryguyits pretty fast too for the specs, windows draaaaged on this lappt21:58
ryguyhey, outta curiosity, what netbook are youinstalling on?22:04
GShermanAsus N10J22:04
GShermani know if I can get this thing to install/work this netbook will be so much nicer/stable22:05
ryguy2 gigs of ram 1.6 gigs?22:05
GShermanyeah22:05
ryguyxubuntu should run fast as hell on that thing22:06
ryguyi gotta pentium 3 - 600 mHz22:06
ryguylol22:06
GShermanarg...i need to completely wipe this HD but i can't22:07
ryguywhat do you mean? in the installation screen you can do it from the partition manager22:09
GShermani don't know what some of this means. Type for the new partition: primary logical22:13
ryguyhold on22:13
ryguyhave you gotten to a screen that looks somewhat like this:22:14
ryguyhttp://kuparinen.org/martti/comp/ubuntu/en/raid16.png22:14
GShermannah. i'm actually in the live os i think22:15
ryguyO_o you shoulda selected "Install ubuntu os"22:15
ryguyive never installed from inside live22:15
GShermanIt popped up at the boot process and said "Default" and then some OEM option and something else I don't remember22:16
GShermanSo i just chose "default"22:16
ryguywhat? you shoulda seen something like:22:17
ryguyerr hold on22:18
ryguyslow connection22:18
GShermani'll see if i can get a pic for you to see whati 'm talking about if this fails again22:18
ryguyhttp://www.shivaranjan.com/shivaupload/windowslivewriter/UbuntuLinuxInt.10InstallationWalkThrough_10AB/ubuntu_linux_installation_2.png22:18
GShermanwhich i'm sure it will22:18
ryguyyou didnt see that screen?22:18
GShermanNo22:19
GShermanI was trying to load Xubuntu22:19
GShermanbut i think i'll try Ubuntu22:19
ryguyhttp://www.raymond.cc/images/unetbootin-boot-menu.png22:19
ryguywell ubuntu is ubuntu with gnome, xubuntu with ubuntu with xfce22:19
ryguygnome and xfce are just window managers or desktop environments22:20
GShermanYup!22:20
GShermanBut there were two other options22:20
GShermanI chose default22:20
ryguywhat were the other options22:20
GShermanand it loaded linux up live22:20
GShermanoem = Install oem and there was another one, i don't remember22:20
ryguyi think, im not sure, but i think you shoulda chose the oem one22:21
ryguyhttp://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook22:22
ryguythat shoould be easier22:22
GShermanyeah, i'm downloading that right now22:22
ryguyif you want the xubuntu desktop, after thats installed you can just go into terminal and do "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"22:23
ryguythat is, if you dont like gnome22:23
tehC0untdoes anyone have experience with xubuntu and networking?22:23
ryguysorry you're havin so much trouble man, this is the reason most people give up on linux and go right back to windows22:23
tehC0unteh actually its might be more of a hardware issue but im really not sure22:24
ryguyuhh networking?22:24
ryguywhats the problem22:24
tehC0untwell22:24
tehC0unti put xubuntu on an old pc i had22:24
tehC0untand for whatever reason it recognizes the ethernet card22:24
tehC0untbut22:24
tehC0untit cant connect to any websites22:24
tehC0untand when i try to ping its gives me unknown host22:24
ryguydid you google for something like "ubuntu cannot connect to websites"?22:25
tehC0untyeah ive been in and out of here also but noone seems to kno22:25
tehC0untat first i thought perhaps my motherboard was faulty cause i had some other problems22:25
tehC0untbut i just tried it on another pc22:25
ryguytry going into #ubuntu and asking the same question, ad xubuntu is just ubuntu with a different window manager22:26
tehC0untyeah22:26
ryguybut for gods sake dont say you're on xubuntu or they'll send you right back here22:26
tehC0untill have to go in there again22:26
tehC0unthahaha22:26
tehC0untthank you22:26
tehC0unti like xubuntu22:26
tehC0unti just wish i could get it to work!22:26
ryguyyou behind a firewall on your router or anything?22:27
tehC0unti dont think so22:27
ryguyrun this command22:27
ryguyifconfig -a22:27
tehC0untim using a switch22:27
ryguyand show methe results22:27
tehC0untahh gimme one sec i just shut down and unplugged22:28
ryguylol k22:28
ryguytehc0unt: its taking you this long to restart?22:32
tehC0untare you gonna be on for 10 min or so?22:32
tehC0untyeah its an old comp22:32
ryguyimma be on for awhile, yeah22:32
tehC0untalso i was just putting in another ethernet card i have to see if itd make any difference22:33
ryguyah22:33
ryguygood idea22:33
ryguyif it doesnt work it might be something with your router. you said something aout being on a switch, but that has to connect to a router22:33
tehC0untyeah22:34
tehC0untwell i am using it right now on my laptop22:35
tehC0untbut im running osx on this22:35
ryguyeeew22:35
tehC0untand on my other comp when i went right from the modem to the pc it still dint work22:35
tehC0unthahaha osx is good!22:35
ryguylol i guess22:35
ryguyalright so when you get that runnin, run that `ifconfig -a` command22:36
tehC0untalright sounds good22:37
tehC0untit should be up any minute now22:37
tehC0untthis thing has a pentium 2 processor haha22:37
GShermanI'm about to take this laptop outside with my shotgun and put it out of its misery22:37
tehC0untbrings me back to like elementary school22:37
tehC0unthey i know the feeling my pc was about to become bp22:37
ryguylol im on a PIII - 600 mHz22:37
tehC0untbatting practice22:37
tehC0untthats what my other pc was22:37
tehC0untan old hp pavillion22:37
ryguyI gotta old toshiba laptop with the screen removed and connected to a usb mouse and a lcd screen22:38
GShermani need to get rid of this effing BOOTMGR problem22:38
GShermanidgi22:38
ryguygsherman: you tried installing the uuntu netbook remix?22:38
tehC0unthaha wow thats quite the setup22:39
ryguytehc0unt: It's actually pretty sick, I like it. its just a smidgen too slow some time22:40
ryguyI have a hard time finding a good web browser that doesnt eat up all my memory22:40
tehC0untah i see i see22:40
tehC0untdo you do any development on it?22:40
ryguyruby mostly22:40
tehC0untnicenice22:41
ryguyyou?22:41
tehC0untjava but im still learning22:41
tehC0unti know a little python22:41
GShermani'm making the ubuntu netbook image for the usb drive right now22:41
tehC0unti use netbeans on my laptop and it literally brings my comp to a halt22:41
tehC0untbut its a good program22:42
tehC0unti prob wont use my old pc for any of that22:42
ryguyyou should try out ruby, its really cool. completely object oriented22:42
tehC0untoh yeah?22:42
tehC0unti dont know much about it22:42
tehC0untwhat kind of stuff do you write?22:42
ryguyits basically a hybrid of all the best practices in perl, python, c, ect22:42
ryguyanything i need to =p22:43
ryguyyou can do stuff like22:43
ryguy['hello', 'world', 'and', 'everyone', 'in', 'it'].each { |word| puts word }22:43
ryguyand that would out put each word on a newline22:44
tehC0unthmm22:44
tehC0untill have to do some research22:45
ryguyyou can stach methods (functions) together like: "Hello World".downcase.delete("world")22:45
tehC0untnice22:45
tehC0untalright22:45
tehC0unti did ifconfig -a22:45
ryguywell check this out22:45
ryguyhttp://tryruby.sophrinix.com/22:45
ryguyoh put the output here22:45
ryguyaww crap, you would have to actually type it, huh?22:46
tehC0unthaha yeah22:46
tehC0unti couldd....22:46
tehC0untput it in textpad22:46
tehC0untand throw it on a usb haha22:46
ryguytype the line that says "1net6 addr:"22:46
ryguyer no wait22:46
ryguyjust "inet addr"22:46
GShermani give up22:46
ryguygsherman: =(22:47
GShermanSo frustrating22:47
GShermanthe Ubuntu image isn't an ISO22:47
ryguygsherman: go into #ubuntu and ask questions.. tons of more (active) linux gurus in there22:47
tehC0unt127.0.0.122:47
ryguytehc0unt: =/22:47
ryguytry doing `ping 74.125.127.99`22:47
ryguythats a google address22:47
tehC0untalright well22:48
tehC0untthat was when i was plugged into the new card i had bought22:48
tehC0untwhich xubuntu was not picking up22:48
tehC0unti plugged into the other one now that xubuntu does recognize just not connect with22:48
tehC0untso let me let you know if that output is nay diff22:48
ryguyk22:48
tehC0untok now22:49
tehC0untive got eth0:avahi22:49
tehC0untinet addr: 169.254.6.23722:49
GShermanI appreciate your help ryguy22:49
ryguyyou got internet?22:50
ryguywith the ping?22:50
ryguygsherman: no problem man, sorry bout your troubles22:50
GShermanthey're ignoring me22:51
tehC0untalright22:51
GShermanhaha22:51
ryguylol22:51
tehC0unti just pinged that address22:51
tehC0unt]and22:51
tehC0untim getting destination host unreachable22:51
ryguygsherman: its not an iso? do a google search for "installing ubuntu netbook remix" or something along those lines22:52
ryguytehc0unt, you can plug that same wire into another computer and it'll work?22:52
tehC0unt94 packets transmitted, 0 received22:52
tehC0untill try it in my laptop right now22:53
tehC0untone moment22:53
ryguywair22:53
ryguyer22:53
tehC0unthello22:53
ryguytry this command22:53
ryguynetstat -rn22:53
ryguyis the last line 0.0.0.0?22:53
ryguyunder destination22:53
tehC0untlet me plug it back into my pc22:54
tehC0untalright just a sec while it connects22:54
ryguywow that takes forever22:55
tehC0untyes it is22:55
ryguyk try this22:55
ryguyroute add default gw 169.254.6.23722:56
tehC0untoperation not permitted22:57
ryguyoh22:57
tehC0untumm btw im booting off a cd right now22:57
ryguysudo oh22:57
ryguyerr22:57
ryguysudo route add default gw 169.254.6.23722:57
tehC0untjust cause it was faster for now22:57
tehC0untk22:57
tehC0untok phew22:57
tehC0untno output but it went through22:57
ryguynow try22:57
ryguyping 74.125.127.9922:58
S0210How to zip a folder without subdirectories?22:58
tehC0untstill destination host unreachable22:58
ryguys0210: make a zip and drag the files into it?22:58
ryguytehc0unt gwar22:59
ryguydo netstat -rn again22:59
ryguyis the last line still 0.0.0.0?22:59
tehC0untyes22:59
tehC0untbut22:59
tehC0untthe other ip was added as a gateway22:59
tehC0untits destination is 0.0.0.023:00
ryguytry this23:00
ryguysudo mousepad /etc/network/interfaces23:00
S0210ryguy: rather with the -x@exclude.lst option I just don't know how to define subdirectories in general23:00
ryguythen make it look like this23:00
ryguyiface eth0 inet static23:00
ryguyaddress <your internal IP>23:00
ryguynetmask <netmask - probably 255.255.255.0>23:00
ryguynetwork <the network ip, eg. 192.168.0.0>23:00
ryguybroadcast <the broadcast address, eg. 192.168.0.255>23:00
ryguygateway <the IP of your cable modem>23:00
ryguydns-nameservers <the ip's of the dns servers you are using>23:01
ryguythen sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart23:01
ryguys0210: try #ubuntu, they'll prolly know23:01
tehC0untalright so delete whats in there23:01
ryguyyup but back it up on some file on your desktop or something23:02
S0210:-l23:02
tehC0untk 1 moment23:03
ryguylol sorry buddy, cant help everyone =s23:03
tehC0untsorry for the dumb question but how do i find out all of my addresses23:04
tehC0untoh alright i got the bcast address23:04
tehC0untand the mask23:04
ryguyhey before you save it23:04
ryguyhey before you save it23:05
ryguybah23:05
tehC0unthaha23:05
tehC0unttyhat always happens to me i dk why23:05
ryguyput the old stuff into the file and put the new stuff into the backup file and save em23:05
ryguythen try this `sudo sh -c 'echo blacklist ipv6 >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local'`23:05
ryguywithout the `'s23:05
ryguythe `sudo reboot`23:06
tehC0untok 1 sec23:06
tehC0untdo i need the quotes around echo blacklist?23:07
ryguysudo sh -c 'echo blacklist ipv6 >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local'23:08
ryguylike that23:08
tehC0untok23:09
tehC0untit says that it cannot create it because23:09
tehC0untthe directory is nonexistant23:09
ryguynow that is weird.23:10
tehC0untunless one of us typed it wrong23:10
tehC0unti doubt that though23:10
tehC0untyeah mine matches what u said23:11
ryguywhat xubuntu are you using?23:12
ryguy9.04?23:12
tehC0untis there a way to check23:13
ryguyuh23:14
ryguywhen you installed23:14
ryguylol23:14
tehC0unthaha well i made the disc a while ago23:14
ryguyhow long ago?23:14
tehC0untprob this time last year or so23:14
tehC0untmaybe a little later23:15
ryguyoh okay here23:15
ryguystart menu > help23:15
tehC0untalright just takin a min here to open uppppp23:16
tehC0unt8.0423:17
ryguyyikes23:17
ryguyyou gotta cd drive?23:17
tehC0untdo you think that might be causing the problem?23:17
tehC0untyes sir23:17
tehC0untthe one on my laptop though is broken23:18
tehC0untso i cant burn a new disc right now23:18
tehC0unti could put it on a usb if that is possible23:18
ryguywell every update has updated drivers and such, your version isalmost 2 years old now23:18
tehC0untoh wow haha23:18
ryguyoh god haha, the last guy i was helpin had hella problems with usb installation =/23:19
tehC0unthaha bummer23:19
tehC0untactually23:19
tehC0untmy friend has a program23:19
tehC0untcalled keryx23:19
tehC0untand its made for updating comps w/o internet connections23:19
tehC0untor dialup23:19
ryguywell i guess you can try it23:19
ryguyhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/karmic/alpha-6/23:19
tehC0untalright ill have to get into that and come back later or somethin23:20
ryguyyeah man ill be here23:20
tehC0unti really really really appreciate all your help though23:20
tehC0untthank you even if i havent come to a solution yet23:21
ryguyits all good, ive received tons of help from random irc folks23:21
ryguylol np =p23:21
tehC0unti just wish i knew what was goin on23:21
ryguysame here man23:21
tehC0untit shows that i am connected23:21
tehC0untin the right corner23:21
tehC0untdo you think maybe there is a firewall i dont know about? ahha23:22
ryguyyou might wanna try switching out the network cards though23:22
ryguypossibly, can you check the router settings?23:22
tehC0untthats what ive been doing23:22
tehC0untim not sure23:22
ryguyyou're not sure?23:22
tehC0untby router do you mean the switch23:22
tehC0untor the modem23:22
ryguyis it your router?23:22
ryguythe modem23:22
tehC0untthere must be a way23:22
ryguythe lil box with blinky stuff on it with one ethernet wire comming from it23:22
tehC0untyes yes23:22
tehC0unti think to check it i might have to go to the charter website or something23:23
ryguycharter?23:23
tehC0untyeah theyre my isp23:23
ryguynah23:24
tehC0unti dont have software on my comp23:24
tehC0untto check the router23:24
tehC0untif thats what you mean23:24
ryguyyou gotta check the routers name and model and google for how to access it. usually you connect to an ip like http://192.0.0.10 or something23:24
tehC0untohh yeah yeah23:24
tehC0unti used to do that to connect to my neighbors wireless haha23:24
tehC0untill have to look that up right now23:24
ryguylol yeah23:24
ryguymm tunnaa23:27
tehC0unthaha23:29
ryguy?23:29
tehC0untalright i think im getting some info here23:29
tehC0untthe tuna i meant23:29
ryguyoh lol23:29
tehC0untalright i found the site alright23:30
tehC0untall it does is let me look at my stats23:30
tehC0untim pretty sure charter is blocking it23:31
tehC0untlike blocking me frrom configuration23:31
ryguythats impossible23:31
ryguytheres no way to set it?23:31
ryguygimmie the site you found it on23:31
tehC0unt192.168.100.123:31
ryguy-_- i mean like23:32
ryguywhats your rouder make and model23:32
tehC0untoh its atlanta scientific23:32
tehC0untwebstar23:32
ryguyi wouldnt be able to access that lol23:32
tehC0unthaha yeah i wasnt sure why u wanted it23:32
ryguywhats the make though?23:32
ryguylike DPC 2100, DCP 2203c..?23:33
tehC0untdpc2100r223:33
ryguyand its on a switch which is connected to what your on right now?23:34
tehC0untyes23:34
tehC0unt5 port switch23:34
ryguyis the switch easily accessable? can you try to switch the wire with your wire?23:35
tehC0untswitch the wire plugged into each comp?23:35
ryguylike on the switch, switch the two plugs say the computer your on now is connected to the first one and the other is connected to the second, put the wire conencted to the second plug into the first and vise versa23:36
tehC0untoh oh ok23:36
ryguythe plug might be broken23:36
ryguy(we shoulda started out this way, checking for broken plugs)23:37
tehC0untalright i switched em all up23:37
ryguyO_o what? you should have disconnected to irc...23:38
tehC0unti did it quickly haha23:38
ryguylol i wish i was there23:38
tehC0untyeah me too i have no idea what the hell is goin on23:38
ryguyare you sure? I mean you /definatly/ shoulda disconnected to irc23:38
tehC0untjust pinged and same result23:38
tehC0unthere ill unplug right now hold on23:38
tehC0untit just takes a second23:40
tehC0untcheck check23:40
tehC0unthello?23:40
ryguywow23:40
ryguythats kinda cool23:40
tehC0unthaha23:40
ryguybut anyways i that means the plug isnt broken23:40
tehC0untdid u get anything i said?23:40
tehC0untyeah23:40
ryguyso the next logical step would be to test the network adapter23:40
tehC0untthe switch?23:41
ryguyif you still get the same results with a different network adapter, then its definatly linux and you should go ahead and install xubuntu 9.1023:41
ryguynono the netwrok card inside the computer23:41
tehC0untoh23:41
tehC0untwell23:41
tehC0unti tried it on both23:41
tehC0untone of them is brand new23:41
ryguywow really23:41
tehC0untone of them is old23:41
tehC0untthe old one gets recognized23:41
ryguywell23:42
tehC0untthe new one i dont think has the drivers in or something23:42
tehC0untbecause it does not get recognized23:42
ryguyinstall the new one and go for xubuntu 9.1023:42
tehC0untyeah i will have to take that road23:42
ryguyhopefully that'll work23:42
tehC0unti mean the old network card is pretty old23:42
tehC0untlike 8 years at least23:42
tehC0untso i dk why the old version of xubuntu wouldnt have the driver for it you know?23:42
ryguywell the new one is prolly newer than your version of xubuntu23:43
tehC0untyeah true23:43
tehC0untdamnit23:43
tehC0untoh well i gotta get going for now23:43
tehC0unti will let you know how this pans out23:43
tehC0untand hopefully ill see u on here again soon23:44
ryguyalright man, hit me up at c00lryguy@gmail.com if im not on here23:44
SiDi_yay, lets add the address to #xubuntu's topic so ryguy does all the support =D23:44
ryguyD=23:45
ryguylol23:45
tehC0unthahaha23:45
tehC0untu might as well23:45
tehC0untthansk again man23:45
ryguyI'm not even that great with linux, either O_o I mean I only started really messing around with it about a year ago23:45
ryguyyeah np23:45

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