[00:23] anyone here/ [00:23] maybe [00:23] ha [00:24] the invisible man might be sitting in the corner, you would never know [00:24] gigawatt, we are all actually dead and not here [00:24] well i'm running xubuntu on an MSI wind and out of no where the wireless device stopped working. here is the output of dmesg and the lspci for the device http://pastebin.com/m45330934 [00:24] it's just an illusion [00:25] gigawatt, after what it stopped working? do you have any idea you might have done? [00:27] i was trying to connect to an access point, it wasn't connected so using nm-applet i disabled and renabled wireless then it now says from nm-applet "device not read" [00:27] y [00:27] have you tried booting? [00:27] rebooting? [00:27] yes [00:27] okay. is it a laptop or desktop machine? [00:28] laptop [00:28] okay. is there any kind of wireless button? [00:28] i'm on it right now, hardwired [00:28] yeah and it's on [00:28] have you tried to turn it off and on again? [00:29] yep multiple times [00:29] okay. is it an eeepc? [00:29] i had this problem before and used a usb wireless card then the problem fixed itself [00:29] it's an msi wind [00:29] oh, right. sometimes the wireless card gets shut down from the pcs bios and you have to turn it on again [00:30] ok [00:30] i don't know why this happens, but i've experienced it maybe once or twice. [00:30] so i should go check the bios [00:30] as the wireless button works, i'm pretty sure it's on, but checking won't do any harm [00:30] i'll be right back [00:30] okay [00:37] ok [00:37] still does not work? [00:37] so i went into the bios and said "reset to default" and now it works [00:37] okay. :) [00:37] there was no specific option for wireless [00:38] good to hear it is working [00:38] but i guess that could be an offical fix for this problem [00:38] that shouldn't really happen in the first place [00:38] but this is one way to fix it once it has happened [00:39] did you had to do a incorrect shutdown or something? [00:39] (before then nm-applet episode) [00:40] not really [00:40] if you want to (possibly) help ubuntu, you might to do a bug report, but i'm not sure how useful that would be in the end, if there is no clear reason why it happened [00:40] i dunno wireless and linux still is a beast [00:41] ok what info would be good the dmesg errors? [00:41] yeah, i suppose [00:42] and that pastebinned info [00:42] ok will do [00:42] i have an account already at the bug site [00:42] thanks [00:42] also please include the workaround in the bug so others can profit from it immediately [00:43] no problem, have fun using xubuntu! [00:43] 2 years and counting [00:43] xubuntu > ubuntu in my book [00:43] that's always nice to hear [00:44] i am contributing to xubuntu and trying to make it as good as possible, of course [00:45] i'm hoping to get to the point where i can contribute [00:45] gigawatt, once you are ready for that, be sure to check out http://xubuntu.org/contribute :) [00:45] also, you can join #xubuntu-devel and look around, if you want [00:47] yeah [00:47] thanks [00:47] again, no problem :) [00:47] new contributors are always needed [00:48] even people who are just giving support here in #xubuntu [04:36] hi people [04:38] anybody could please help a newbie with anfd install under xubuntu? [04:50] sure [04:50] hi techie [04:52] whats anfd? [04:52] http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Skripte/anfd#source-4 [04:52] sorry its in german [04:52] aint no firewall daemon [04:53] it enables you to block programms the internt [04:53] might it be easier to use an alternative daemon? [04:53] dont know [04:54] i want to block for example adobe reader from phoning home [04:55] i see [04:57] sudo apt-get install libiptables-ipv4-ipqueue-perl libnet-cidr-perl libnet-rawip-perl [04:58] yes i managed to install the packages [04:58] from there its a simple script [04:58] but i dont know how to "use" the script? [04:58] have you downloaded it? [04:58] yes its on the desktop [04:59] copy or move it to /usr/local/sbin/ [04:59] sudo cp anfd /usr/local/sbin/ [05:01] now you should be able to run it by running anfd from terminal [05:01] hmm its andf.txt, have to rename it [05:01] kk [05:01] sudo mv anfd.txt /usr/local/sbin/anfd [05:03] ok copied it, but if i try to start it with anfd it say permission denied? [05:04] sudo chmod +x /usr/local/sbin/anfd [05:04] !ops kline me [05:04] Sorry, I don't know anything about ops kline me [05:04] !ops [05:04] ops is HELP! gnomefreak, tonyyarusso, PuMpErNiCkLe, maxamillion, TheSheep, crimsun, mrpouit, Myrtti, PriceChild charlie-tca or cody-somerville [05:04] Can't locate IPTables/IPv4/IPQueue.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/sbin/anfd line 17. [05:04] BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/sbin/anfd line 17. [05:05] one sec, killertcell what was your reason for calling the ops? [05:06] ubuntu sucks [05:06] *sigh* trollz [05:06] get a life killertcell [05:06] just ignore him, hes just trolling [05:07] i get this error message whis is rather bad? error in the script? [05:07] which [05:08] sudo apt-get install libperl5.10 [05:09] its already the newest version [05:09] hrmm [05:11] i have found an alternative that you could use [05:11] http://my.opera.com/ubuntunerd1/blog/h-2 [05:11] yes? [05:11] should be alot easier with a GUI [05:13] i have already installed firestarter [05:13] did you give that a go? [05:13] but it wont autostart at boot , says something about no permission? [05:13] didnt know that you could configure outgoing connections with firestarter, thanks [05:14] im not sure about starting at boot [05:16] why? [05:17] i havent worked with custom init.d's in ages [05:19] hmm just looking at firestarter, it seems you cant specify a concret programm? [05:20] i would have no idea, i dont use such firewalls [05:21] i mean if i allow http for opera than any other software could connect t the internet [05:22] yes as long as it uses port 80 [05:23] so this anfd should allow one to specify a program name which is explicity denied internet access [05:25] well, do you know whta port what you want to block uses? [05:26] no idea, therefore it should work by the programm name [05:29] well maybe i will have to open a thread in the gemran wiki, something in the script isnt working [05:30] i may have found another alternative [05:30] yes? [05:30] UFW, im setting it up now ill let you know if it works [05:30] thanks a lot :) [05:31] nope, taht only blocked incoming [05:33] i see [05:34] well like i said i will try the wiki thread, thanks for your friendly help :) [05:34] stick around [05:34] ill keep looking [05:40] found one i think [05:40] http://fireflier.sourceforge.net/features.html [05:49] i will look at it , thanks [07:40] techie can you help my dad get set up...i ordered himpuppy and he orfered ubuntu [07:41] he's 80 but very good with compouters...may not need much help [07:44] in game atm [07:46] no problem he doesn't even have yet...will have puppy in a couple days, prolly won't get ubuntu for 2-3 weeks [07:51] how good is he with computers? [07:52] well he has been buying them cheap and then fixing them up and reselling the, for about 5 years now [07:53] pretty good buy has always done windows [07:53] fair enough [07:53] he probably wont need much help getting it set up [07:53] prolly not, but i wonder about puppy [07:54] he might need some help doing things such as installing drivers and that [07:54] smart guy used to buily really cool remote control airplanes in the late 50's early 60's...big ones [07:55] hehe, my dad used to do the whole RC thing [07:55] he likes the puppy/opera idea but he has ubuntu on the way as a back up [07:56] we have to try convince him to use ubuntu rather than puppy as it will cause him less stress in the long run [07:56] the stuff he has lying around is stuff that has 20-40gig hard drive so it is relatively modern [07:58] yeah [07:58] hard to beat ubuntu...my altec lansing speakers worked immediately...printer, my dsl all of it, i didn't do anything [07:58] grr i hate itunes [07:58] it took all my music and put it all into folders [07:59] is xubuntu like ubuntu when it comes to installing it [08:00] yep [08:00] exactly the same [08:00] plug and play no messin around [08:00] yep [08:00] *sigh* now i gotta make a script to move all my music back [08:00] so really that is the best one then seems like puppy without the lilissues [08:01] *sigh* i REALLY HAT iTunes [08:01] 8.61GB of music put into 1615 folders [08:02] how much HD do you have on that celry [08:03] 120gb windows + 190gb storage + 7gb linux [08:03] and here i am with an 10g hd, man i am waaay behind the times [08:03] but we got the g4 [08:06] is there anyone her thats good with bash scripting? [08:20] techie: do you use an anti virues program woth ubuntu [08:21] nope [08:21] tbh i dont even use antivirus in windows [08:21] i go tsophos on the g4 but nothing on the ubuntu computer [08:21] if you dont go download everything that pops up on your screen, your not gonna get many viruses [08:22] with ubuntu you will most likely be installing from the repos, no viruses there [08:22] i suppose if i get something i'll justn reinstall...no i really dont dload...so far just hat flash i asked you about [08:23] that flash player is the only pop up i have seen on ubuntu [08:23] and even that was downloaded from the repo's [08:23] the advertising type pop ups have never shown up at all now that you mention it [08:24] because theres no malware [08:25] do you do a clean reinstall every so often to to clean it up or is that not needed [08:25] not needed [08:25] too good to be true... [08:25] i spent hours on end messin aroound in my windows registry [08:25] well its not a necessity [08:26] it feels soo good to have all my music in one folder again [08:27] do i even have a registry now? [08:27] nope [08:27] well maybe [08:27] tbh ive never looked into that sort of stuff on *buntu [08:28] ive clicked on most of my icons...but i really haven't run into anything very technical [08:29] i maade it so FF wipes it all clean everytime and no autocomplete or anything like that [08:30] thats the beaty of *buntu you dont see anything technical in the GUI all the technocal stuff is in the command line [08:30] where is that [08:30] terminal [08:31] where is thatone [08:31] in the menu under accessories i think [08:31] im not in ubuntu atm so i wouldnt be able to say [08:31] dont recall that [08:31] im havin so much fun not fixin things i am getiing alil lazy [08:34] once in windows i found an installed program oon my computer called "interstitial search agent"....so i resaerchd it and found it was not windows so i went into add remove and removed it but it never went away, until i got hijack this [08:35] a lot of the stuff i found couldnt even be removed by hijack this but it just got put in some weird room..like a jail for malware [08:35] can't believe i am not doing that anymore [08:35] hehe [08:36] evr have to do thet [08:36] nope [08:37] what most people are doing around here is buying a windows computer, letting the registry get gunked up ove a coouple years, then the computer wont run right, so they buy a whole new windows computer [08:38] yeah [08:38] but i suppose thats good for you and me [08:38] xause they don;t now its even gunked up..they dorks at best buy tell themits out-dated and they believe them and buy another one [08:39] well, it is outdated [08:39] but not obsolete [08:39] if i had known about buntu before my in laws would have given 4-5 reqally modern computers that they thought were smoked and i found out the other day they gave to some guy to " haul away" [08:39] omg [08:41] most people know nothing and i mean nothing about windows [08:42] so now he muys the "accidental damage warranty"..so when they start "running funny" HE LITERALLY CAN DROP IT OUT A WINDOW AND GET ANOTHER ONE [08:42] MUYS+BUYS [08:43] lol [08:45] i am serious at best buy they are now getting 300-400 for extra warranties on a computer that cost 500-1000 because noone knows the problem is really windows [08:47] yep [08:48] i am meeting with the guy at our company that deals with giving away all those dells tomorrow... [08:50] cool [08:51] wifes a teacher and technically schools are non profit so i am gooing to find out if that will get into the pipeline [08:57] hello GaeliX [08:58] im gonna go watch some tv [08:59] later... [09:55] Hello [09:56] would anyone here be able to help with my xubuntu booting problem? [09:59] any people here able to help? [10:02] ill try just put in ubuntu but i am no expert [10:02] hey thanks [10:03] i dont think its Xu specific [10:03] ok i installed xubuntu today and it went quite well [10:03] it had over 100 updates so i updated and let it restart [10:04] now when it boots it stops after the black xubunu screen on a light blue desktop screen , but with nothing [10:04] its not frozen as i can ctrl-alt-del but it just wont load any further [10:04] not even one icon? [10:04] nope [10:04] i tried safemode but no help there [10:05] how long did you wait from the time it went to the blue screen [10:05] the hdd light stops flashing after about 10 seconds and just nothing happens [10:05] half an hour once [10:05] how old is the puter [10:05] old [10:05] but fairly reliable [10:06] early 2001 [10:06] been running fine for years on windows me (yuck lol) [10:07] i heard that xu sort of maps you map things out yorself more so than ubu...i just came out of 11 years of hell fromw98 [10:07] makes you i meant not maps you [10:07] ahh [10:07] lol [10:07] are you doing xu fro a specific reason [10:08] like the next stage in the boot is for the resolution to change down then normal desktop runs [10:08] umm no i just read its good for older computers [10:08] well i say this cause mine puter is from 1998 and ubu went right in with no fooling around [10:08] then did 349 updates no problem [10:09] lol nice [10:09] yea the updates were successful but now it just cant be stuffed booting right [10:10] xu...i have heard is for people who are more experienced at creating the pathways to make the thing really work, [10:10] ohh [10:10] i thuaght it was basically the same except the desktop runs easier on older comps? [10:11] i am shooting from the hip here but i did it knowing NOTHING and it went in and my sound and printer and pathe to dsl was all done for me [10:12] ok [10:12] so its in there and the updates are done but you haqve a blue screen and it wont operate? [10:12] heya dave [10:12] thank god he is here [10:12] * Techie waves [10:13] never fear "I" is here [10:13] its not like a windows blue screen, its just the background colour without a desktop pic, and it fails to load the rest [10:13] hey techie [10:13] i know what you mean dave [10:13] oh mean [10:13] its as though xfce is stalling [10:13] yea [10:13] you know how to use tty consoles? [10:13] so it is a Xu specific problem? [10:14] nope sorry [10:14] hrmm, lets try use ubottu [10:14] !tty [10:14] To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login). To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution. [10:14] yay [10:14] now let me think [10:14] i think you want to run startxfce4 --display :0 [10:14] i think [10:15] just a wild stab, havent actually used xubuntu in awhilke [10:15] the screen is in some high 1100+ x 800+ then it should go to 1024x768 [10:15] wow thanks [10:15] ok ima try that [10:15] most likely wont work [10:15] comps in other end of house ima be fit after tonight :P [10:15] lol [10:15] brxb [10:16] you do know if you got savvy you could setup VNC and everything using a TTY console and remote it to fix it [10:17] bye bal you got mplayer installed? [10:17] hey* [10:17] or VLC [10:18] Balsaque- do you have mplayer or vlc installed? [10:19] o i am on th g4 it is my wifes....where do i look for it [10:19] oh, in that case [10:19] go into quicktime [10:20] hang toght [10:20] \itunes? [10:20] quicktime [10:21] i get start:need to be root [10:21] then issue the command usign sudo [10:21] sorry lol im new to linux command lines [10:21] thats alright, were here to help [10:22] :p thanks [10:22] found quicktime yet bal? [10:22] so "usign sudo"? [10:22] went to file and typed in quicktime and got 103 items? [10:22] sudo startxfce4 --display :0 [10:23] its the one in the applications folder [10:23] oh ty [10:23] brxb [10:24] i get the error "command not found" [10:25] one sec i gotta look for the correct command, it may be start-xfce4 [10:25] ok ty [10:25] found it [10:26] lotta stuff in heer emote stuff aqnd all [10:26] in the top bar under the quicktiem menu [10:26] select open URK [10:26] URL* [10:26] slap this in there [10:26] http://www.babyloveclub.com.au/videos/number3.flv [10:26] its a tv ad that was just on before [10:27] got qtime if you still need it [10:27] start up quicktime and to what i said before [10:28] umm dave try start-xfce4 instead [10:28] ok ty brb [10:28] if that doesnt work it might be that you no longer have xfce [10:30] sudo:start-xfce4--display:0:command not found [10:30] clicking on quicktime and nothingcomes up [10:30] k, dont worry then bal [10:31] will keep lookin... [10:31] umm, did you enter it as sudo:start.... [10:31] or sudo start.... [10:31] nope [10:31] because sudo:start will not work [10:31] i just wrote what it yelled at me back [10:31] okay [10:31] umm [10:31] sudo start-xfce4--display:0 [10:32] run this then [10:32] apt-get install xorg gdm xfce4 leafpad synaptic [10:32] wait [10:32] woahg? [10:33] apt-get install xorg gdm xfce4 synaptic [10:33] write it down [10:33] oh youll need to do it using sudo aswell [10:33] sudo apt-get install xorg gdm xfce4 synaptic [10:33] ok just wrote it [10:33] brb [10:37] mean [10:38] it did a whole bunch of downloading and installing [10:38] good [10:38] now its finished and wanting me to tell it what to do [10:38] can i boot now? [10:38] restart it [10:38] ok [10:38] sudo shutdown -r NOW [10:38] got somthing in front of me know thaTSAYS OTS QUCK TIME STILL NEED IT [10:38] inculde the NOW? [10:38] yes [10:38] ok [10:39] dont worry about it bal [10:39] ok [10:39] you might be able to watch it online [10:39] http://www.babyloveclub.com.au/?Poopoopouch [10:40] the click here to watch our new TV ad button [10:42] awww stink ow [10:42] it rebooted and the same thing happens [10:43] well that sucks [10:43] can i run that earlier command but with gnome instead of xfce? [10:43] yeah but you will have to install gnome [10:44] sudo apt-get install gnome [10:44] can it just download for me like it did with xfce? [10:44] yeah [10:44] sudo apt-get install gnome [10:44] or would you recommend the k one? [10:45] gnome for *buntu [10:45] ok [10:46] so just sudo apt-get install gnome ? [10:47] yep [10:47] ok brgb [10:48] shiiiiiiit [10:48] what? [10:48] 144mb ffrom archives [10:49] yeah [10:49] your installing a whole new display manager [10:49] should i do it or just install a clean ubuntu? [10:49] a clean *buntu would be better [10:49] what are the specs of your system? [10:50] 600mhz, 384mbs ram , 32mb dedicated gfx [10:50] (hmmm...ole baby luv wasn't so far off after all...) [10:51] hrmm, might want to stick with xubuntu, if you had more RAM i would say use ubuntu, however you can try ubuntu if you wish [10:51] isnt that a decent amount of ram for a late 2000 comp? [10:52] yeah [10:52]