[00:23] <gigawatt> anyone here/
[00:23] <techie> maybe
[00:23] <gigawatt> ha
[00:24] <techie> the invisible man might be sitting in the corner, you would never know
[00:24] <knome> gigawatt, we are all actually dead and not here
[00:24] <gigawatt> well i'm running xubuntu on an MSI wind and out of no where the wireless device stopped working. here is the output of dmesg and the lspci for the device http://pastebin.com/m45330934
[00:24] <knome> it's just an illusion
[00:25] <knome> gigawatt, after what it stopped working? do you have any idea you might have done?
[00:27] <gigawatt> i was trying to connect to an access point, it wasn't connected so using nm-applet i disabled and renabled wireless then it now says from nm-applet "device not read"
[00:27] <gigawatt> y
[00:27] <knome> have you tried booting?
[00:27] <gigawatt> rebooting?
[00:27] <gigawatt> yes
[00:27] <knome> okay. is it a laptop or desktop machine?
[00:28] <gigawatt> laptop
[00:28] <knome> okay. is there any kind of wireless button?
[00:28] <gigawatt> i'm on it right now, hardwired
[00:28] <gigawatt> yeah and it's on
[00:28] <knome> have you tried to turn it off and on again?
[00:29] <gigawatt> yep multiple times
[00:29] <knome> okay. is it an eeepc?
[00:29] <gigawatt> i had this problem before and used a usb wireless card then the problem fixed itself
[00:29] <gigawatt> it's an msi wind
[00:29] <knome> oh, right. sometimes the wireless card gets shut down from the pcs bios and you have to turn it on again
[00:30] <gigawatt> ok
[00:30] <knome> i don't know why this happens, but i've experienced it maybe once or twice.
[00:30] <gigawatt> so i should go check the bios
[00:30] <knome> as the wireless button works, i'm pretty sure it's on, but checking won't do any harm
[00:30] <gigawatt> i'll be right back
[00:30] <knome> okay
[00:37] <gigawatt> ok
[00:37] <knome> still does not work?
[00:37] <gigawatt> so i went into the bios and said "reset to default" and now it works
[00:37] <knome> okay. :)
[00:37] <gigawatt> there was no specific option for wireless
[00:38] <knome> good to hear it is working
[00:38] <gigawatt> but i guess that could be an offical fix for this problem
[00:38] <knome> that shouldn't really happen in the first place
[00:38] <knome> but this is one way to fix it once it has happened
[00:39] <knome> did you had to do a incorrect shutdown or something?
[00:39] <knome> (before then nm-applet episode)
[00:40] <gigawatt> not really
[00:40] <knome> if you want to (possibly) help ubuntu, you might to do a bug report, but i'm not sure how useful that would be in the end, if there is no clear reason why it happened
[00:40] <gigawatt> i dunno wireless and linux still is a beast
[00:41] <gigawatt> ok what info would be good the dmesg errors?
[00:41] <knome> yeah, i suppose
[00:42] <knome> and that pastebinned info
[00:42] <gigawatt> ok will do
[00:42] <gigawatt> i have an account already at the bug site
[00:42] <gigawatt> thanks
[00:42] <knome> also please include the workaround in the bug so others can profit from it immediately
[00:43] <knome> no problem, have fun using xubuntu!
[00:43] <gigawatt> 2 years and counting
[00:43] <gigawatt> xubuntu > ubuntu in my book
[00:43] <knome> that's always nice to hear
[00:44] <knome> i am contributing to xubuntu and trying to make it as good as possible, of course
[00:45] <gigawatt> i'm hoping to get to the point where i can contribute
[00:45] <knome> gigawatt, once you are ready for that, be sure to check out http://xubuntu.org/contribute :)
[00:45] <knome> also, you can join #xubuntu-devel and look around, if you want
[00:47] <gigawatt> yeah
[00:47] <gigawatt> thanks
[00:47] <knome> again, no problem :)
[00:47] <knome> new contributors are always needed
[00:48] <knome> even people who are just giving support here in #xubuntu
[04:36] <visitor1> hi people
[04:38] <visitor1> anybody could please help a newbie with anfd install under xubuntu?
[04:50] <techie> sure
[04:50] <visitor1> hi techie
[04:52] <techie> whats anfd?
[04:52] <visitor1> http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Skripte/anfd#source-4
[04:52] <visitor1> sorry its in german
[04:52] <visitor1> aint no firewall daemon
[04:53] <visitor1> it enables you to block programms the internt
[04:53] <techie> might it be easier to use an alternative daemon?
[04:53] <visitor1> dont know
[04:54] <visitor1> i want to block for example adobe reader from phoning home
[04:55] <techie> i see
[04:57] <techie> sudo apt-get install libiptables-ipv4-ipqueue-perl libnet-cidr-perl libnet-rawip-perl
[04:58] <visitor1> yes i managed to install the packages
[04:58] <techie> from there its a simple script
[04:58] <visitor1> but i dont know how to "use" the script?
[04:58] <techie> have you downloaded it?
[04:58] <visitor1> yes its on the desktop
[04:59] <techie> copy or move it to /usr/local/sbin/
[04:59] <techie> sudo cp anfd /usr/local/sbin/
[05:01] <techie> now you should be able to run it by running anfd from terminal
[05:01] <visitor1> hmm its andf.txt, have to rename it
[05:01] <techie> kk
[05:01] <techie> sudo mv anfd.txt /usr/local/sbin/anfd
[05:03] <visitor1> ok copied it, but if i try to start it with anfd it say permission denied?
[05:04] <techie> sudo chmod +x /usr/local/sbin/anfd
[05:04] <killertcell> !ops kline me
[05:04] <killertcell> !ops
[05:04] <visitor1> Can't locate IPTables/IPv4/IPQueue.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.0 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.0 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/local/sbin/anfd line 17.
[05:04] <visitor1> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/local/sbin/anfd line 17.
[05:05] <techie> one sec, killertcell what was your reason for calling the ops?
[05:06] <killertcell> ubuntu sucks
[05:06] <techie> *sigh* trollz
[05:06] <visitor1> get a life killertcell
[05:06] <techie> just ignore him, hes just trolling
[05:07] <visitor1> i get this error message whis is rather bad? error in the script?
[05:07] <visitor1> which
[05:08] <techie> sudo apt-get install libperl5.10
[05:09] <visitor1> its already the newest version
[05:09] <techie> hrmm
[05:11] <techie> i have found an alternative that you could use
[05:11] <techie> http://my.opera.com/ubuntunerd1/blog/h-2
[05:11] <visitor1> yes?
[05:11] <techie> should be alot easier with a GUI
[05:13] <visitor1> i have already installed firestarter
[05:13] <techie> did you give that a go?
[05:13] <visitor1> but it wont autostart at boot , says something about no permission?
[05:13] <visitor1> didnt know that you could configure outgoing connections with firestarter, thanks
[05:14] <techie> im not sure about starting at boot
[05:16] <visitor1> why?
[05:17] <techie> i havent worked with custom init.d's in ages
[05:19] <visitor1> hmm just looking at firestarter, it seems you cant specify a concret programm?
[05:20] <techie> i would have no idea, i dont use such firewalls
[05:21] <visitor1> i mean if i allow http for opera than any other software could connect t the internet
[05:22] <techie> yes as long as it uses port 80
[05:23] <visitor1> so this anfd should allow one to specify a program name which is explicity denied internet access
[05:25] <techie> well, do you know whta port what you want to block uses?
[05:26] <visitor1> no idea, therefore it should work by the programm name
[05:29] <visitor1> well maybe i will have to open a thread in the gemran wiki, something in the script isnt working
[05:30] <techie> i may have found another alternative
[05:30] <visitor1> yes?
[05:30] <techie> UFW, im setting it up now ill let you know if it works
[05:30] <visitor1> thanks a lot :)
[05:31] <techie> nope, taht only blocked incoming
[05:33] <visitor1> i see
[05:34] <visitor1> well like i said i will try the wiki thread, thanks for your friendly help :)
[05:34] <techie> stick around
[05:34] <techie> ill keep looking
[05:40] <techie> found one i think
[05:40] <techie> http://fireflier.sourceforge.net/features.html
[05:49] <visitor1> i will look at it , thanks
[07:40] <balsaq> techie can you help my dad get set up...i ordered himpuppy and he orfered ubuntu
[07:41] <balsaq> he's 80 but very good with compouters...may not need much help
[07:44] <Techie> in game atm
[07:46] <balsaq> no problem he doesn't even have  yet...will have puppy in a couple days, prolly won't get ubuntu for 2-3 weeks
[07:51] <Techie> how good is he with computers?
[07:52] <balsaq> well he has been buying them cheap and then fixing them up and reselling the, for about 5 years now
[07:53] <balsaq> pretty good buy has always done windows
[07:53] <Techie> fair enough
[07:53] <Techie> he probably wont need much help getting it set up
[07:53] <balsaq> prolly not, but i wonder about puppy
[07:54] <Techie> he might need some help doing things such as installing drivers and that
[07:54] <balsaq> smart guy used to buily really cool remote control airplanes in the late 50's early 60's...big ones
[07:55] <Techie> hehe, my dad used to do the whole RC thing
[07:55] <balsaq> he likes the puppy/opera idea but he has ubuntu on the way as a back up
[07:56] <Techie> we have to try convince him to use ubuntu rather than puppy as it will cause him less stress in the long run
[07:56] <balsaq> the stuff he has lying around is stuff that has 20-40gig hard drive so it is relatively modern
[07:58] <Techie> yeah
[07:58] <balsaq> hard to beat ubuntu...my altec lansing speakers worked immediately...printer, my dsl  all of it, i didn't do anything
[07:58] <Techie> grr i hate itunes
[07:58] <Techie> it took all my music and put it all into folders
[07:59] <balsaq> is xubuntu like ubuntu when it comes to installing it
[08:00] <Techie> yep
[08:00] <Techie> exactly the same
[08:00] <balsaq> plug and play no messin around
[08:00] <Techie> yep
[08:00] <Techie> *sigh* now i gotta make a script to move all my music back
[08:00] <balsaq> so really that is the best one then seems like puppy without the lilissues
[08:01] <Techie> *sigh* i REALLY HAT iTunes
[08:01] <Techie> 8.61GB of music put into 1615 folders
[08:02] <balsaq> how much HD do you have on that celry
[08:03] <Techie> 120gb windows + 190gb storage + 7gb linux
[08:03] <balsaq> and here i am with an 10g hd, man i am waaay behind the times
[08:03] <balsaq> but we got the g4
[08:06] <Techie> is there anyone her thats good with bash scripting?
[08:20] <Balsaque> techie: do you use an anti virues program woth ubuntu
[08:21] <Techie> nope
[08:21] <Techie> tbh i dont even use antivirus in windows
[08:21] <Balsaque> i go tsophos on the g4 but nothing on the ubuntu computer
[08:21] <Techie> if you dont go download everything that pops up on your screen, your not gonna get many viruses
[08:22] <Techie> with ubuntu you will most likely be installing from the repos, no viruses there
[08:22] <Balsaque> i suppose if i get something i'll justn reinstall...no i really dont dload...so far just hat flash i asked you about
[08:23] <Balsaque> that flash player is the only pop up i have seen on ubuntu
[08:23] <Techie> and even that was downloaded from the repo's
[08:23] <Balsaque> the advertising type pop ups have never shown up at all now that you mention it
[08:24] <Techie> because theres no malware
[08:25] <Balsaque> do you do a clean reinstall every so often to to clean it up or is that not needed
[08:25] <Techie> not needed
[08:25] <Balsaque> too good to be true...
[08:25] <Balsaque> i spent hours on end messin aroound in my windows registry
[08:25] <Techie> well its not a necessity
[08:26] <Techie> it feels soo good to have all my music in one folder again
[08:27] <Balsaque> do i even have a registry now?
[08:27] <Techie> nope
[08:27] <Techie> well maybe
[08:27] <Techie> tbh ive never looked into that sort of stuff on *buntu
[08:28] <Balsaque> ive clicked on most of my icons...but i really haven't run into anything very technical
[08:29] <Balsaque> i maade it so FF wipes it all clean everytime and no autocomplete or anything like that
[08:30] <Techie> thats the beaty of *buntu you dont see anything technical in the GUI all the technocal stuff is in the command line
[08:30] <Balsaque> where is that
[08:30] <Techie> terminal
[08:31] <Balsaque> where is thatone
[08:31] <Techie> in the menu under accessories i think
[08:31] <Techie> im not in ubuntu atm so i wouldnt be able to say
[08:31] <Balsaque> dont recall that
[08:31] <Balsaque> im havin so much fun not fixin things i am getiing alil lazy
[08:34] <Balsaque> once in windows i found an installed program oon my computer called "interstitial search agent"....so i resaerchd it and found it was not windows so i went into add remove and removed it but it never went away, until i got hijack this
[08:35] <Balsaque> a lot of the stuff i found couldnt even be removed by hijack this but it just got put in some weird room..like a jail for malware
[08:35] <Balsaque> can't believe i am not doing that anymore
[08:35] <Techie> hehe
[08:36] <Balsaque> evr have to do thet
[08:36] <Techie> nope
[08:37] <Balsaque> what most people are doing around here is buying a windows computer, letting the registry get gunked up ove a coouple years, then the computer wont run right, so they buy a whole new windows computer
[08:38] <Techie> yeah
[08:38] <Techie> but i suppose thats good for you and me
[08:38] <Balsaque> xause they don;t now its even gunked up..they dorks at best buy tell themits out-dated and they believe them and buy another one
[08:39] <Techie> well, it is outdated
[08:39] <Techie> but not obsolete
[08:39] <Balsaque> if i had known about buntu before my in laws would have given 4-5 reqally modern computers that they thought were smoked and i found out the other day they gave to some guy to " haul away"
[08:39] <Techie> omg
[08:41] <Balsaque> most people know nothing and i mean nothing about windows
[08:42] <Balsaque> so now he muys the "accidental damage warranty"..so when they start "running funny" HE LITERALLY CAN DROP IT OUT A WINDOW AND GET ANOTHER ONE
[08:42] <Balsaque> MUYS+BUYS
[08:43] <Techie> lol
[08:45] <Balsaque> i am serious at best buy they are now getting 300-400 for extra warranties on a computer that cost 500-1000 because noone knows the problem is really windows
[08:47] <Techie> yep
[08:48] <Balsaque> i am meeting with the guy at our company that deals with giving away all those dells tomorrow...
[08:50] <Techie> cool
[08:51] <Balsaque> wifes a teacher and technically schools are non profit so i am gooing to find out if that will get into the pipeline
[08:57] <Techie> hello GaeliX
[08:58] <Techie> im gonna go watch some tv
[08:59] <Balsaque> later...
[09:55] <Dave332> Hello
[09:56] <Dave332> would anyone here be able to help with my xubuntu booting problem?
[09:59] <Dave332> any people here able to help?
[10:02] <Balsaque> ill try just put in ubuntu but i am no expert
[10:02] <Dave332> hey thanks
[10:03] <Dave332> i dont think its Xu specific
[10:03] <Dave332> ok i installed xubuntu today and it went quite well
[10:03] <Dave332> it had over 100 updates so i updated and let it restart
[10:04] <Dave332> now when it boots it stops after the black xubunu screen on a light blue desktop screen , but with nothing
[10:04] <Dave332> its not frozen as i can ctrl-alt-del but it just wont load any further
[10:04] <Balsaque> not even one icon?
[10:04] <Dave332> nope
[10:04] <Dave332> i tried safemode but no help there
[10:05] <Balsaque> how long did you wait from the time it went to the blue screen
[10:05] <Dave332> the hdd light stops flashing after about 10 seconds and just nothing happens
[10:05] <Dave332> half an hour once
[10:05] <Balsaque> how old is the puter
[10:05] <Dave332> old
[10:05] <Dave332> but fairly reliable
[10:06] <Dave332> early 2001
[10:06] <Dave332> been running fine for years on windows me (yuck lol)
[10:07] <Balsaque> i heard that xu sort of maps you map things out yorself more so than ubu...i just came out of 11 years of hell fromw98
[10:07] <Balsaque> makes you i meant not maps you
[10:07] <Dave332> ahh
[10:07] <Dave332> lol
[10:07] <Balsaque> are you doing xu fro a specific reason
[10:08] <Dave332> like the next stage in the boot is for the resolution to change down then normal desktop runs
[10:08] <Dave332> umm no i just read its good for older computers
[10:08] <Balsaque> well i say this cause mine puter is from 1998 and ubu went right in with no fooling around
[10:08] <Balsaque> then did 349 updates no problem
[10:09] <Dave332> lol nice
[10:09] <Dave332> yea the updates were successful but now it just cant be stuffed booting right
[10:10] <Balsaque> xu...i have heard is for people who are more experienced at creating the pathways to make the thing really work,
[10:10] <Dave332> ohh
[10:10] <Dave332> i thuaght it was basically the same except the desktop runs easier on older comps?
[10:11] <Balsaque> i am shooting from the hip here but i did it knowing NOTHING and it went in and my sound and printer and pathe to dsl was all done for me
[10:12] <Dave332> ok
[10:12] <Balsaque> so its in there and the updates are done but you haqve a blue screen and it wont operate?
[10:12] <Techie> heya dave
[10:12] <Balsaque> thank god he is here
[10:12]  * Techie waves
[10:13] <Techie> never fear "I" is here
[10:13] <Dave332> its not like a windows blue screen, its just the background colour without a desktop pic, and it fails to load the rest
[10:13] <Dave332> hey techie
[10:13] <Techie> i know what you mean dave
[10:13] <Dave332> oh mean
[10:13] <Techie> its as though xfce is stalling
[10:13] <Dave332> yea
[10:13] <Techie> you know how to use tty consoles?
[10:13] <Dave332> so it is a Xu specific problem?
[10:14] <Dave332> nope sorry
[10:14] <Techie> hrmm, lets try use ubottu
[10:14] <Techie> !tty
[10:14] <Techie> yay
[10:14] <Techie> now let me think
[10:14] <Techie> i think you want to run startxfce4 --display :0
[10:14] <Techie> i think
[10:15] <Techie> just a wild stab, havent actually used xubuntu in awhilke
[10:15] <Dave332> the screen is in some high 1100+ x 800+ then it should go to 1024x768
[10:15] <Dave332> wow thanks
[10:15] <Dave332> ok ima try that
[10:15] <Techie> most likely wont work
[10:15] <Dave332> comps in other end of house ima be fit after tonight :P
[10:15] <Techie> lol
[10:15] <Dave332> brxb
[10:16] <Techie> you do know if you got savvy you could setup VNC and everything using a TTY console and remote it to fix it
[10:17] <Techie> bye bal you got mplayer installed?
[10:17] <Techie> hey*
[10:17] <Techie> or VLC
[10:18] <Techie> Balsaque- do you have mplayer or vlc installed?
[10:19] <Balsaque> o i am on th g4 it is my wifes....where do i look for it
[10:19] <Techie> oh, in that case
[10:19] <Techie> go into quicktime
[10:20] <Balsaque> hang toght
[10:20] <Balsaque> \itunes?
[10:20] <Techie> quicktime
[10:21] <Dave332> i get start:need to be root
[10:21] <Techie> then issue the command usign sudo
[10:21] <Dave332> sorry lol im new to linux command lines
[10:21] <Techie> thats alright, were here to help
[10:22] <Dave332> :p thanks
[10:22] <Techie> found quicktime yet bal?
[10:22] <Dave332> so "usign sudo"?
[10:22] <Balsaque> went to file and typed in quicktime and got 103 items?
[10:22] <Techie> sudo startxfce4 --display :0
[10:23] <Techie> its the one in the applications folder
[10:23] <Dave332> oh ty
[10:23] <Dave332> brxb
[10:24] <Dave332> i get the error "command not found"
[10:25] <Techie> one sec i gotta look for the correct command, it may be start-xfce4
[10:25] <Dave332> ok ty
[10:25] <Balsaque> found it
[10:26] <Balsaque> lotta stuff in heer emote stuff aqnd all
[10:26] <Techie> in the top bar under the quicktiem menu
[10:26] <Techie> select open URK
[10:26] <Techie> URL*
[10:26] <Techie> slap this in there
[10:26] <Techie> http://www.babyloveclub.com.au/videos/number3.flv
[10:26] <Techie> its a tv ad that was just on before
[10:27] <Balsaque> got qtime if you still need it
[10:27] <Techie> start up quicktime and to what i said before
[10:28] <Techie> umm dave try start-xfce4 instead
[10:28] <Dave332> ok ty brb
[10:28] <Techie> if that doesnt work it might be that you no longer have xfce
[10:30] <Dave332> sudo:start-xfce4--display:0:command not found
[10:30] <Balsaque> clicking on quicktime and nothingcomes up
[10:30] <Techie> k, dont worry then bal
[10:31] <Balsaque> will keep lookin...
[10:31] <Techie> umm, did you enter it as sudo:start....
[10:31] <Techie> or sudo start....
[10:31] <Dave332> nope
[10:31] <Techie> because sudo:start will not work
[10:31] <Dave332> i just wrote what it yelled at me back
[10:31] <Techie> okay
[10:31] <Techie> umm
[10:31] <Dave332> sudo start-xfce4--display:0
[10:32] <Techie> run this then
[10:32] <Techie> apt-get install xorg gdm xfce4 leafpad synaptic
[10:32] <Techie> wait
[10:32] <Dave332> woahg?
[10:33] <Techie> apt-get install xorg gdm xfce4 synaptic
[10:33] <Techie> write it down
[10:33] <Techie> oh youll need to do it using sudo aswell
[10:33] <Techie> sudo apt-get install xorg gdm xfce4 synaptic
[10:33] <Dave332> ok just wrote it
[10:33] <Dave332> brb
[10:37] <Dave332> mean
[10:38] <Dave332> it did a whole bunch of downloading and installing
[10:38] <Techie> good
[10:38] <Dave332> now its finished and wanting me to tell it what to do
[10:38] <Dave332> can i boot now?
[10:38] <Techie> restart it
[10:38] <Dave332> ok
[10:38] <Techie> sudo shutdown -r NOW
[10:38] <Balsaque> got somthing in front of me know thaTSAYS OTS QUCK TIME STILL NEED IT
[10:38] <Dave332> inculde the NOW?
[10:38] <Techie> yes
[10:38] <Dave332> ok
[10:39] <Techie> dont worry about it bal
[10:39] <Balsaque> ok
[10:39] <Techie> you might be able to watch it online
[10:39] <Techie> http://www.babyloveclub.com.au/?Poopoopouch
[10:40] <Techie> the click here to watch our new TV ad button
[10:42] <Dave332> awww stink ow
[10:42] <Dave332> it rebooted and the same thing happens
[10:43] <Techie> well that sucks
[10:43] <Dave332> can i run that earlier command but with gnome instead of xfce?
[10:43] <Techie> yeah but you will have to install gnome
[10:44] <Techie> sudo apt-get install gnome
[10:44] <Dave332> can it just download for me like it did with xfce?
[10:44] <Techie> yeah
[10:44] <Techie> sudo apt-get install gnome
[10:44] <Dave332> or would you recommend the k one?
[10:45] <Techie> gnome for *buntu
[10:45] <Dave332> ok
[10:46] <Dave332> so just sudo apt-get install gnome ?
[10:47] <Techie> yep
[10:47] <Dave332> ok brgb
[10:48] <Dave332> shiiiiiiit
[10:48] <Techie> what?
[10:48] <Dave332> 144mb ffrom archives
[10:49] <Techie> yeah
[10:49] <Techie> your installing a whole new display manager
[10:49] <Dave332> should i do it or just install a clean ubuntu?
[10:49] <Techie> a clean *buntu would be better
[10:49] <Techie> what are the specs of your system?
[10:50] <Dave332> 600mhz, 384mbs ram , 32mb dedicated gfx
[10:50] <Balsaque> (hmmm...ole baby luv wasn't so far off after all...)
[10:51] <Techie> hrmm, might want to stick with xubuntu, if you had more RAM i would say use ubuntu, however you can try ubuntu if you wish
[10:51] <Dave332> isnt that a decent amount of ram for a late 2000 comp?
[10:52] <Techie> yeah
[10:52] <Techie> put it this way
[10:52] <Dave332> i think ill just put a clean ubuntu on
[10:52] <Techie> ubuntu will run very happily
[10:52] <Dave332> but xu would be turbo?
[10:52] <Techie> bit faster
[10:53] <Dave332> haha
[10:53] <Techie> only due to the lightweight front end
[10:53] <Techie> ubuntu-server would be faster
[10:53] <Techie> no front end
[10:53] <Dave332> hahaha
[10:54] <Dave332> yea but my brother who will be using it is not a power use , hed just be using firefox, thunderbird, and a bit of open office
[10:55] <Techie> then ubuntu it is
[10:55] <Dave332> its quicker for me to dl Ub, burn, install , than xu would be dling gnome lol
[10:55] <Techie> really, you got a mirror thats hosted on the same ISP?
[10:55] <Balsaque> there was a guy on the other channel who said he had xp running on 256 ram ill bet ubuntu will do well on384 Dave
[10:56] <Dave332> oh mean ty
[10:56] <Techie> bal theres a difference between running and running well
[10:56] <Dave332> umm the ub archives were getting about 40 kbs somewhere here
[10:56] <Techie> theres a reason i upgraded my dell machine from 256mb DDR333 to 512mb
[10:56] <Dave332> and the ubuntu isos going at 800kbish
[10:57] <Dave332> lol ok
[10:57] <Techie> dang, must be on the same ISP
[10:58] <Balsaque> i saw a 256 stick on ebay fro 6.99 some of those typres of ram are so cheap now
[10:58] <Dave332> dont think its isp but im mirroring the dl 8 times and servers not that far from here
[10:58] <Dave332> wow
[11:00] <Techie> lucky you, if i had a mirror on my isp it would cost me to download
[11:00] <Dave332> lol
[11:00] <Dave332> my isps real bs
[11:02] <Dave332> pay 50 bucks a month for unlimited, got a real slow upload, and dl ranges from 20kb/s to 800kb/s ish
[11:05] <techie_> im back
[11:05] <techie_> i locked up windows playing around with unstable video output codecs in mplayer
[11:05] <Dave332> oh i see why my 360 wont connect, ubuntus stealing all the net
[11:05] <Dave332> two techies?
[11:05] <Dave332> haha awsoume
[11:06] <Dave332> hey one problem i did have on xubuntu
[11:06] <techie_> ...
[11:06] <Dave332> it wouldnt recognise my other hdd
[11:06] <techie_> what format?
[11:06] <Dave332> fat32
[11:06] <techie_> kk, ubuntu will handle that out of the box
[11:07] <techie_> what size is the drive?
[11:07] <Dave332> 10gb
[11:07] <Dave332> lol
[11:07] <techie_> same as bal's
[11:07] <techie_> any data on it?
[11:07] <Dave332> a 7 and a 3 gb partition
[11:07] <Dave332> yup
[11:07] <Dave332> windows ME
[11:07] <Dave332> and other crap
[11:07] <techie_> kk, so we dont want to go formatting it
[11:08] <Dave332> haha
[11:08] <Dave332> that hdd used to be the master
[11:08] <Dave332> with this 40gb as a slave
[11:08] <Dave332> so i swapped
[11:08] <techie_> you are aware that fat32 has a maximum filesize of 4gig?
[11:08] <Dave332> made a 25gb partition on the 40 as ubuntus and left the rest as a general one
[11:08] <Dave332> yea
[11:09] <Dave332> none of the files come close to that
[11:09] <techie_> umm
[11:09] <techie_> if your just gonna run ubuntu, and not dualboot or anything
[11:09] <Dave332> but i am
[11:09] <techie_> oh
[11:09] <Dave332> ME fails but its funny
[11:09] <techie_> lol
[11:10] <techie_> you do realise ubuntu will do everything ME can and more?
[11:10] <Dave332> yea
[11:10] <techie_> then why keep ME?
[11:10] <Dave332> thatts why the 40gb is for ub and the 10 is for me
[11:11] <techie_> oh lol
[11:11] <Dave332> i dont see why i should wipe for a few extra gigs i wont use
[11:11] <Dave332> + ME is mean oldschool
[11:11] <techie_> okay that does bring back my suggestion
[11:11] <Dave332> now my vista explorer has dissapeared
[11:11] <techie_> if ME doesnt use your 15gig partition
[11:12] <techie_> then set up ubuntu with one partition for swap and one partition for root "/"
[11:12] <techie_> that way you can dump files anywhere in ubuntu and you wont run out of space
[11:13] <Dave332> what exactly is a swap btw
[11:14] <techie_> virtual memory
[11:14] <Dave332> oh
[11:14] <techie_> its space used in conjunction with your RAM to make writing to RAM more efficient
[11:14] <Dave332> yea i think it tried to do that
[11:15] <Dave332> when it asked mer about partitions i made the 25 ubuntu and who knows what happend to the rest
[11:15] <Dave332> i dont the the whole / linux disk things
[11:15] <techie_> okay when it asks you
[11:15] <techie_> go custom
[11:16] <techie_> new partition map
[11:16] <Dave332> oh
[11:16] <techie_> make a new partition of 1024mb or 1 gig at the end of the drive and make it swap area
[11:16] <Dave332> its mean fast at the end aye?
[11:16] <techie_> then make another with the left over free space make it ext3 and mount it to /
[11:16] <techie_> yeah, well its out of the way
[11:17] <Dave332> oh yuck i hate all the / mounting things
[11:17] <techie_> this will make it easier
[11:17] <Dave332> ok
[11:17] <Dave332> ubs burning
[11:30] <Techie> welcome back
[11:32] <Techie> hello abra
[11:32] <abra> hello
[11:33] <visitor1> techi i just blacklisted the manufacturer ips in firestarter
[11:33] <Techie> cool
[11:33] <visitor1> i think its not as safe as blacklisting the whole programm but i cant manage that
[11:34] <Techie> kk
[11:39] <Balsaq> techie can you tell from where you sit what happened to my connection awhile ago?
[11:41] <Techie> Balsaq, i cant see any disconnections or anything back in my logs
[11:41] <Dave332> hey techie
[11:41] <Techie> hey Dave332
[11:41] <Dave332> im up to partitioning for ubuntu now
[11:41] <Techie> kk
[11:42] <Techie> 1024mb @ end = swap area
[11:42] <Techie> the rest = ext3 @ /
[11:42] <Dave332> so 13 gb fat32 at start for general storage, 25gb ext3 linux  , then 1gb swap?
[11:43] <Dave332> or should the first 2 be swapped?
[11:43] <Techie> umm, you can swap the first 2 if you want
[11:43] <Dave332> ok
[11:43] <Dave332> and which one(s) primary and logical?
[11:43] <Techie> primary for all
[11:43] <Dave332> ok
[11:44] <Dave332> tyvm
[11:44] <Techie> you can have up to 4 primary partitions
[11:44] <Dave332> brub
[11:44] <Dave332> ok
[11:44] <Techie> on one drive
[11:44] <Dave332> oh lol i ran back to ask that
[11:44] <Techie> haha
[11:44] <Dave332> so max 4 each?
[11:44] <Techie> yeah
[11:44] <Techie> youl eb fine
[11:46] <Dave332> what about mount pointgs?
[11:46] <Dave332> leave those blank?
[11:46] <Techie> mount point for ext3 = /
[11:46] <Dave332> the options are /dos or /windows?
[11:47] <Techie> for the fat32 drive use /windows
[11:47] <Dave332> ok
[11:47] <Dave332> fat-/win ext-/ swap-/?
[11:48] <Techie> for swap the mount point is grayed out
[11:48] <Dave332> oh ok lol
[11:49] <Techie> welcome back GaeliX
[12:16] <Techie> ls
[12:17] <Dave332> bacon
[12:17] <Techie> eggs
[12:18] <Techie> so Dave332 hows it going?
[12:20] <Dave332> haha
[12:20] <Dave332> pretty good
[12:20] <Dave332> ill just check up on it
[12:20] <Dave332> brub
[12:21] <Dave332> 94%
[12:22] <Techie> anyone here seen the 1985 film, the breakfast club?
[12:23] <Dave332> oh
[12:23] <Dave332> that was on tv the other week
[12:23] <Dave332> forgot to watch it
[12:24] <Techie> what channel?
[12:24] <Dave332> umm
[12:24] <Dave332> 4 here
[12:24] <Dave332> what country do you live in?
[12:24] <Techie> NZ
[12:24] <Dave332> haha
[12:24] <Dave332> what a
[12:24] <Dave332> same
[12:24] <Techie> BFS!!!
[12:24] <Dave332> I KNO!
[12:25] <Dave332> !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:25] <Dave332> it was on c4 the other week
[12:25] <Techie> yeah
[12:25] <Techie> part of a tribute
[12:25] <Dave332> yea
[12:25] <Techie> the director died in august
[12:25] <Dave332> ahh
[12:25] <Dave332> oh tribute to him i thuaght it was tribute to the 80s lol
[12:26] <Techie> now that i know your in NZ aswell, who is your ISP?
[12:26] <Dave332> telecon
[12:26]  * Techie facepalms
[12:26] <Dave332> hahahahaha
[12:26] <Dave332> i got that golarge plan
[12:26] <Techie> yeah, unfortunately they dont provide it anymore
[12:27] <Dave332> yea
[12:27] <Techie> otherwise i would be on it
[12:27] <Dave332> that was like 05 or summin?
[12:27] <Techie> yeah i think so
[12:27] <Techie> im with Xnet
[12:27] <Dave332> oh
[12:27] <Dave332> never heard of them lol
[12:27] <Techie> $24 base fee for line speed down and 128k up
[12:27] <Techie> then $1.02 per gig
[12:28] <Techie> its really awesome because you only pay for what you use, and if you go over you get speed restrictions but you dont pay for anything over
[12:29] <Techie> and you dont have to get bandwidth in packs, you can get as much or as little as you like
[12:32] <Techie> ooh i think recoil may have ubuntu on their host which means FRE BANDWIDTH
[12:53] <Dave332> back finally
[12:53] <Dave332> thats a nice plan oi
[12:55] <Techie> unfortunately recoils ftp is no longer running
[12:55] <Dave332> damn
[12:56] <Dave332> i was dling from the ihug server and i got just around 800kb to my amazement
[13:00] <Dave332> brbcheese
[13:10] <Dave332> hey techie?
[13:12] <Techie> yo
[13:13] <Dave332> ok for my 3d gfx drivers
[13:13] <Techie> card?
[13:13] <Dave332> yup
[13:13] <Dave332> install the nvidia-glx-legacy and nvidia-settings packages
[13:14] <Techie> are those the correct package names?
[13:14] <Dave332> so "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-legacy nvidia-settings"
[13:14] <Dave332> yup
[13:14] <Techie> yep
[13:14] <Dave332> mean
[13:14] <Dave332> ill do that now
[13:31] <Techie> dangit, the only xnet server for linux i can find are Fedora and Cent
[13:32] <Techie> anyway i should probably get some sleep
[13:34] <Dave332> yea same lol
[13:34] <Dave332> i just wanna get this gfx driver sorted
[13:35] <Dave332> thanks heaps for your help today techie :)
[13:37] <Techie> no problem Dave332 i should be on tommorow if you need more help
[13:37] <Dave332> thanks
[13:38] <Dave332> and thanks to balsaq even tho hes gone lol
[13:38] <Dave332> ladaz
[15:05] <Ese> Hi, I just rebooted my laptop and apparently xubuntu reset my resolution right now it's 1024x768, it's native resolution it's 1366x768
[15:06] <Ese> it always has worked that way with 1366x768
[15:06] <Ese> I don't know why it just change it
[15:06] <Ese> if I run xrandr on terminal it list 1366x768 as an available resolution
[15:07] <Ese> but if i run xrandr -s 1366x768 it says "Size 1366x768 not found in available modes"
[15:11] <jmcand> one of my cd dvd drives stopped showing when a dvd is  inserted which command can I use to investigate where the problem is?
[19:49] <fizzle> hey im having problems installing the latest PPC version.
[19:50] <fizzle> i cant get my powermac to even book the livecd.
[19:50] <fizzle> boot the cd :/
[20:36] <ryguy> When I open a link on desktop 2 (on IRC for example) and my web browser is already open on desktop 1, I'd like to have it automatically switch from desktop 2 to desktop 1, rather than having the web browser be brought over to desktop 2. Is there a way to do this?
[20:39] <knome> ryguy, iirc, that was some focus setting of firefox
[20:40] <ryguy> ahh, I'm using google chrome
[20:41] <knome> maybe it also has a setting for that then
[20:41] <ryguy> firefox is too hefty for my computer (pentium III - 600 mHz)
[20:42] <ryguy> nope, nothing
[20:49] <GSherman> Anyone here?
[20:50] <ryguy> hey
[20:50] <genii> Apparently. How many are awake...another matter
[20:50] <ryguy> whatcha need
[20:51] <genii> !ask
[20:52] <ryguy> guess not, eh?
[20:53]  * genii slides ryguy a coffee
[20:53] <ryguy> heh, nice
[20:54] <ryguy> so today at work (I'm a pizza cook) my crazy bitch coworker left the pizza oven door open and I didnt know about it and was right behind it
[20:54] <ryguy> so I go to put away veggies i just chopped and turned around
[20:54] <genii> Ouch
[20:54] <ryguy> i not have a second degree brun on my arm >_<
[20:55] <ryguy> I come home and xubuntu 9.10 finished installing. I was happy till I found out it erased my conkyrc
[20:55] <ryguy> so now I gotta remake it from scratch
[20:55] <ryguy> bad day
[21:13] <GSherman> Hello?
[21:14] <BMasiak> howdy
[21:14] <GSherman> I have a problem and was wondering if anyone would be interested in helping me solve it.
[21:14] <BMasiak> shoot
[21:15] <GSherman> I have a netbook. No cd/dvd drive. I'm having to install xubuntu through a usb thumb drive.
[21:15] <BMasiak> ok
[21:15] <GSherman> I get through the entire installation process and then when it goes to boot
[21:15] <GSherman> i get a "no bootmgr" error
[21:15] <GSherman> =/
[21:16] <ryguy> what version xubuntu do you have on the usb drive?
[21:16] <GSherman> Jaunty Jackalope
[21:16] <GSherman> Version 9.04
[21:16] <BMasiak> did it ask during installation which drive to install the bootmgr to?
[21:16] <GSherman> No.
[21:17] <ryguy> do you have other operating systems installed on your computer?
[21:17] <GSherman> None.
[21:17] <GSherman> I gave up trying to get xp on it.
[21:17] <ryguy> lol good
[21:17] <GSherman> haha
[21:18] <BMasiak> lol
[21:18] <ryguy> how did you install it onto the usb drive?
[21:18] <BMasiak> never installed it off a usb drive myself, but wondering if the installation tried to modify the bootmgr on the usb instead of the internal HD...
[21:18] <GSherman> LinuxLive_USB_Creator_2.0_RC1
[21:19] <ryguy> whats the exact error you get?
[21:21] <ryguy> also, can you boot ubuntu live?
[21:22] <GSherman> i haven't tried to yet
[21:22] <GSherman> i am re-installing right now.
[21:22] <GSherman> when it's done, if i get an error i'll let you know exactly what it says
[21:22] <ryguy> well, we'll be here
[21:23] <ryguy> when its done, tell me by typing "ryguy: its done" or something so I get a popup message
[21:23] <GSherman> okie dokie
[21:27] <GSherman> Okay
[21:27] <GSherman> ryguy: its done
[21:27] <ryguy> alright, you still gettiin the error?
[21:27] <GSherman> says BOOTMGR is missing
[21:27] <ryguy> kk
[21:27] <ryguy> now is the usb in there?
[21:28] <ryguy> connected
[21:28] <ryguy> and can you boot into live?
[21:28] <GSherman> I haven'tt ried
[21:28] <GSherman> tried*
[21:28] <GSherman> I will now
[21:31] <GSherman> It seems to be attempting it
[21:31] <GSherman> stuck on a line though
[21:31] <GSherman> "attached scsi generic sg2 type 0"
[21:31] <ryguy> for how long?
[21:32] <GSherman> been like 5 minutes
[21:32] <ryguy> you dont have a space cd lying around? I always have trouble installing from a usb drive
[21:32] <ryguy> spare*
[21:32] <GSherman> I don't have a cd/dvd drive for it
[21:33] <GSherman> it did this earlier when it was actually trying to install it
[21:33] <GSherman> eventually moved on ahead
[21:33] <ryguy> you cant yoink one temporarily from a different machine?
[21:33] <GSherman> It's a laptop
[21:33] <GSherman> a netbook
[21:33] <ryguy> ah
[21:34] <ryguy> wait so you used the same image before and it worked
[21:34] <GSherman> i borrowed an external drive but i am thinking my bios doesn't see it =/
[21:34] <GSherman> Live worked
[21:34] <ryguy> didnt change anything abd reinstalled and now you're having these troubles?
[21:34] <ryguy> you got live runnin?
[21:34] <GSherman> Yeah
[21:34] <GSherman> it's running
[21:34] <ryguy> cool
[21:34] <GSherman> trying to install from live
[21:34] <GSherman> maybed that'll work?
[21:34] <ryguy> wait
[21:35] <GSherman> ok
[21:35] <ryguy> try opening terminal
[21:35] <ryguy> and typing this in
[21:35] <ryguy> sudo grub-install --recheck /dev/sda1
[21:35] <GSherman> i've never touched linux before. how do i get to terminal?
[21:35] <ryguy> click the mouse to open the menu on the panel
[21:35] <ryguy> the accessories > terminal
[21:36] <GSherman> okay ;got it
[21:36] <ryguy> when thats done, try rebooting non-live
[21:36] <GSherman> i tryped that line
[21:36] <GSherman> typed*
[21:36] <GSherman> This is what it said:
[21:37] <GSherman> Probing devices to guess BIOS Drives. This make take a long time.
[21:37] <ryguy> yup
[21:37] <GSherman> Could not find device for /boot: not found or not a block device
[21:37] <ryguy> hm
[21:37] <ryguy> 1 sec
[21:38] <ryguy> do: sudo grub
[21:38] <GSherman> okay
[21:38] <GSherman> done
[21:38] <ryguy> now: find /boot/grub/stage1
[21:38] <ryguy> and tell me what it says
[21:38] <ryguy> this is good btw, it means the boot loader s installed
[21:38] <GSherman> it said: (hd0,0)
[21:38] <ryguy> is*
[21:39] <ryguy> alright now do: root (hd0,0)
[21:39] <GSherman> done
[21:39] <ryguy> now: setup (hd0)
[21:40] <GSherman> bunch of stuff
[21:40] <ryguy> oh god
[21:40] <ryguy> is it done though?
[21:40] <GSherman> yeah
[21:40] <GSherman> checked different stages
[21:40] <ryguy> k do quit
[21:40] <ryguy> and restart
[21:40] <GSherman> ran an embed
[21:40] <GSherman> okay
[21:40] <ryguy> you just told the bootloader where your boot partition is, so hopefully this will work
[21:42] <GSherman> BOOTMGR is missing
[21:42] <GSherman> :(
[21:42] <GSherman> BOOTMGR is missing
[21:42] <ryguy> christ
[21:42] <GSherman> :(
[21:43] <ryguy> try using this program to put linux onto the usb:
[21:43] <ryguy> http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[21:43] <GSherman> okay
[21:47] <ryguy> unetbootin is the only thing ive successfully tried to install ubuntu with from a usb drive
[21:49] <GSherman> It's making it right now.
[21:49] <ryguy> so youve never used linux?
[21:50] <ryguy> you're lucky, nowadays its so easy to install and use things. a couple of years ago it was hard as hell.
[21:52] <GSherman> Yeah, i've been doing some reading
[21:52] <GSherman> Looks like it used to be a real pain
[21:52] <GSherman> I'm kind of excited to play with it though ^_^
[21:52] <GSherman> Learning through use
[21:53] <ryguy> yeah, Im never going back to windows. everything is customizable on linux + free
[21:54] <GSherman> www.picotux.com
[21:55] <GSherman> That's pretty sweet
[21:56] <ryguy> holy crap thats awesome
[21:57] <ryguy> I gotta old toshiba laptop with the screen removed and connected to a usb mouse and a lcd screen
[21:58] <ryguy> its pretty fast too for the specs, windows draaaaged on this lappt
[22:04] <ryguy> hey, outta curiosity, what netbook are youinstalling on?
[22:04] <GSherman> Asus N10J
[22:05] <GSherman> i know if I can get this thing to install/work this netbook will be so much nicer/stable
[22:05] <ryguy> 2 gigs of ram 1.6 gigs?
[22:05] <GSherman> yeah
[22:06] <ryguy> xubuntu should run fast as hell on that thing
[22:06] <ryguy> i gotta pentium 3 - 600 mHz
[22:06] <ryguy> lol
[22:07] <GSherman> arg...i need to completely wipe this HD but i can't
[22:09] <ryguy> what do you mean? in the installation screen you can do it from the partition manager
[22:13] <GSherman> i don't know what some of this means. Type for the new partition: primary logical
[22:13] <ryguy> hold on
[22:14] <ryguy> have you gotten to a screen that looks somewhat like this:
[22:14] <ryguy> http://kuparinen.org/martti/comp/ubuntu/en/raid16.png
[22:15] <GSherman> nah. i'm actually in the live os i think
[22:15] <ryguy> O_o you shoulda selected "Install ubuntu os"
[22:15] <ryguy> ive never installed from inside live
[22:16] <GSherman> It popped up at the boot process and said "Default" and then some OEM option and something else I don't remember
[22:16] <GSherman> So i just chose "default"
[22:17] <ryguy> what? you shoulda seen something like:
[22:18] <ryguy> err hold on
[22:18] <ryguy> slow connection
[22:18] <GSherman> i'll see if i can get a pic for you to see whati 'm talking about if this fails again
[22:18] <ryguy> http://www.shivaranjan.com/shivaupload/windowslivewriter/UbuntuLinuxInt.10InstallationWalkThrough_10AB/ubuntu_linux_installation_2.png
[22:18] <GSherman> which i'm sure it will
[22:18] <ryguy> you didnt see that screen?
[22:19] <GSherman> No
[22:19] <GSherman> I was trying to load Xubuntu
[22:19] <GSherman> but i think i'll try Ubuntu
[22:19] <ryguy> http://www.raymond.cc/images/unetbootin-boot-menu.png
[22:19] <ryguy> well ubuntu is ubuntu with gnome, xubuntu with ubuntu with xfce
[22:20] <ryguy> gnome and xfce are just window managers or desktop environments
[22:20] <GSherman> Yup!
[22:20] <GSherman> But there were two other options
[22:20] <GSherman> I chose default
[22:20] <ryguy> what were the other options
[22:20] <GSherman> and it loaded linux up live
[22:20] <GSherman> oem = Install oem and there was another one, i don't remember
[22:21] <ryguy> i think, im not sure, but i think you shoulda chose the oem one
[22:22] <ryguy> http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download-netbook
[22:22] <ryguy> that shoould be easier
[22:22] <GSherman> yeah, i'm downloading that right now
[22:23] <ryguy> if you want the xubuntu desktop, after thats installed you can just go into terminal and do "sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop"
[22:23] <ryguy> that is, if you dont like gnome
[22:23] <tehC0unt> does anyone have experience with xubuntu and networking?
[22:23] <ryguy> sorry you're havin so much trouble man, this is the reason most people give up on linux and go right back to windows
[22:24] <tehC0unt> eh actually its might be more of a hardware issue but im really not sure
[22:24] <ryguy> uhh networking?
[22:24] <ryguy> whats the problem
[22:24] <tehC0unt> well
[22:24] <tehC0unt> i put xubuntu on an old pc i had
[22:24] <tehC0unt> and for whatever reason it recognizes the ethernet card
[22:24] <tehC0unt> but
[22:24] <tehC0unt> it cant connect to any websites
[22:24] <tehC0unt> and when i try to ping its gives me unknown host
[22:25] <ryguy> did you google for something like "ubuntu cannot connect to websites"?
[22:25] <tehC0unt> yeah ive been in and out of here also but noone seems to kno
[22:25] <tehC0unt> at first i thought perhaps my motherboard was faulty cause i had some other problems
[22:25] <tehC0unt> but i just tried it on another pc
[22:26] <ryguy> try going into #ubuntu and asking the same question, ad xubuntu is just ubuntu with a different window manager
[22:26] <tehC0unt> yeah
[22:26] <ryguy> but for gods sake dont say you're on xubuntu or they'll send you right back here
[22:26] <tehC0unt> ill have to go in there again
[22:26] <tehC0unt> hahaha
[22:26] <tehC0unt> thank you
[22:26] <tehC0unt> i like xubuntu
[22:26] <tehC0unt> i just wish i could get it to work!
[22:27] <ryguy> you behind a firewall on your router or anything?
[22:27] <tehC0unt> i dont think so
[22:27] <ryguy> run this command
[22:27] <ryguy> ifconfig -a
[22:27] <tehC0unt> im using a switch
[22:27] <ryguy> and show methe results
[22:28] <tehC0unt> ahh gimme one sec i just shut down and unplugged
[22:28] <ryguy> lol k
[22:32] <ryguy> tehc0unt: its taking you this long to restart?
[22:32] <tehC0unt> are you gonna be on for 10 min or so?
[22:32] <tehC0unt> yeah its an old comp
[22:32] <ryguy> imma be on for awhile, yeah
[22:33] <tehC0unt> also i was just putting in another ethernet card i have to see if itd make any difference
[22:33] <ryguy> ah
[22:33] <ryguy> good idea
[22:33] <ryguy> if it doesnt work it might be something with your router. you said something aout being on a switch, but that has to connect to a router
[22:34] <tehC0unt> yeah
[22:35] <tehC0unt> well i am using it right now on my laptop
[22:35] <tehC0unt> but im running osx on this
[22:35] <ryguy> eeew
[22:35] <tehC0unt> and on my other comp when i went right from the modem to the pc it still dint work
[22:35] <tehC0unt> hahaha osx is good!
[22:35] <ryguy> lol i guess
[22:36] <ryguy> alright so when you get that runnin, run that `ifconfig -a` command
[22:37] <tehC0unt> alright sounds good
[22:37] <tehC0unt> it should be up any minute now
[22:37] <tehC0unt> this thing has a pentium 2 processor haha
[22:37] <GSherman> I'm about to take this laptop outside with my shotgun and put it out of its misery
[22:37] <tehC0unt> brings me back to like elementary school
[22:37] <tehC0unt> hey i know the feeling my pc was about to become bp
[22:37] <ryguy> lol im on a PIII - 600 mHz
[22:37] <tehC0unt> batting practice
[22:37] <tehC0unt> thats what my other pc was
[22:37] <tehC0unt> an old hp pavillion
[22:38] <ryguy> I gotta old toshiba laptop with the screen removed and connected to a usb mouse and a lcd screen
[22:38] <GSherman> i need to get rid of this effing BOOTMGR problem
[22:38] <GSherman> idgi
[22:38] <ryguy> gsherman: you tried installing the uuntu netbook remix?
[22:39] <tehC0unt> haha wow thats quite the setup
[22:40] <ryguy> tehc0unt: It's actually pretty sick, I like it. its just a smidgen too slow some time
[22:40] <ryguy> I have a hard time finding a good web browser that doesnt eat up all my memory
[22:40] <tehC0unt> ah i see i see
[22:40] <tehC0unt> do you do any development on it?
[22:40] <ryguy> ruby mostly
[22:41] <tehC0unt> nicenice
[22:41] <ryguy> you?
[22:41] <tehC0unt> java but im still learning
[22:41] <tehC0unt> i know a little python
[22:41] <GSherman> i'm making the ubuntu netbook image for the usb drive right now
[22:41] <tehC0unt> i use netbeans on my laptop and it literally brings my comp to a halt
[22:42] <tehC0unt> but its a good program
[22:42] <tehC0unt> i prob wont use my old pc for any of that
[22:42] <ryguy> you should try out ruby, its really cool. completely object oriented
[22:42] <tehC0unt> oh yeah?
[22:42] <tehC0unt> i dont know much about it
[22:42] <tehC0unt> what kind of stuff do you write?
[22:42] <ryguy> its basically a hybrid of all the best practices in perl, python, c, ect
[22:43] <ryguy> anything i need to =p
[22:43] <ryguy> you can do stuff like
[22:43] <ryguy> ['hello', 'world', 'and', 'everyone', 'in', 'it'].each { |word| puts word }
[22:44] <ryguy> and that would out put each word on a newline
[22:44] <tehC0unt> hmm
[22:45] <tehC0unt> ill have to do some research
[22:45] <ryguy> you can stach methods (functions) together like: "Hello World".downcase.delete("world")
[22:45] <tehC0unt> nice
[22:45] <tehC0unt> alright
[22:45] <tehC0unt> i did ifconfig -a
[22:45] <ryguy> well check this out
[22:45] <ryguy> http://tryruby.sophrinix.com/
[22:45] <ryguy> oh put the output here
[22:46] <ryguy> aww crap, you would have to actually type it, huh?
[22:46] <tehC0unt> haha yeah
[22:46] <tehC0unt> i couldd....
[22:46] <tehC0unt> put it in textpad
[22:46] <tehC0unt> and throw it on a usb haha
[22:46] <ryguy> type the line that says "1net6 addr:"
[22:46] <ryguy> er no wait
[22:46] <ryguy> just "inet addr"
[22:46] <GSherman> i give up
[22:47] <ryguy> gsherman: =(
[22:47] <GSherman> So frustrating
[22:47] <GSherman> the Ubuntu image isn't an ISO
[22:47] <ryguy> gsherman: go into #ubuntu and ask questions.. tons of more (active) linux gurus in there
[22:47] <tehC0unt> 127.0.0.1
[22:47] <ryguy> tehc0unt: =/
[22:47] <ryguy> try doing `ping 74.125.127.99`
[22:47] <ryguy> thats a google address
[22:48] <tehC0unt> alright well
[22:48] <tehC0unt> that was when i was plugged into the new card i had bought
[22:48] <tehC0unt> which xubuntu was not picking up
[22:48] <tehC0unt> i plugged into the other one now that xubuntu does recognize just not connect with
[22:48] <tehC0unt> so let me let you know if that output is nay diff
[22:48] <ryguy> k
[22:49] <tehC0unt> ok now
[22:49] <tehC0unt> ive got eth0:avahi
[22:49] <tehC0unt> inet addr: 169.254.6.237
[22:49] <GSherman> I appreciate your help ryguy
[22:50] <ryguy> you got internet?
[22:50] <ryguy> with the ping?
[22:50] <ryguy> gsherman: no problem man, sorry bout your troubles
[22:51] <GSherman> they're ignoring me
[22:51] <tehC0unt> alright
[22:51] <GSherman> haha
[22:51] <ryguy> lol
[22:51] <tehC0unt> i just pinged that address
[22:51] <tehC0unt> ]and
[22:51] <tehC0unt> im getting destination host unreachable
[22:52] <ryguy> gsherman: its not an iso? do a google search for "installing ubuntu netbook remix" or something along those lines
[22:52] <ryguy> tehc0unt, you can plug that same wire into another computer and it'll work?
[22:52] <tehC0unt> 94 packets transmitted, 0 received
[22:53] <tehC0unt> ill try it in my laptop right now
[22:53] <tehC0unt> one moment
[22:53] <ryguy> wair
[22:53] <ryguy> er
[22:53] <tehC0unt> hello
[22:53] <ryguy> try this command
[22:53] <ryguy> netstat -rn
[22:53] <ryguy> is the last line 0.0.0.0?
[22:53] <ryguy> under destination
[22:54] <tehC0unt> let me plug it back into my pc
[22:54] <tehC0unt> alright just a sec while it connects
[22:55] <ryguy> wow that takes forever
[22:55] <tehC0unt> yes it is
[22:55] <ryguy> k try this
[22:56] <ryguy> route add default gw 169.254.6.237
[22:57] <tehC0unt> operation not permitted
[22:57] <ryguy> oh
[22:57] <tehC0unt> umm btw im booting off a cd right now
[22:57] <ryguy> sudo oh
[22:57] <ryguy> err
[22:57] <ryguy> sudo route add default gw 169.254.6.237
[22:57] <tehC0unt> just cause it was faster for now
[22:57] <tehC0unt> k
[22:57] <tehC0unt> ok phew
[22:57] <tehC0unt> no output but it went through
[22:57] <ryguy> now try
[22:58] <ryguy> ping 74.125.127.99
[22:58] <S0210> How to zip a folder without subdirectories?
[22:58] <tehC0unt> still destination host unreachable
[22:58] <ryguy> s0210: make a zip and drag the files into it?
[22:59] <ryguy> tehc0unt gwar
[22:59] <ryguy> do netstat -rn again
[22:59] <ryguy> is the last line still 0.0.0.0?
[22:59] <tehC0unt> yes
[22:59] <tehC0unt> but
[22:59] <tehC0unt> the other ip was added as a gateway
[23:00] <tehC0unt> its destination is 0.0.0.0
[23:00] <ryguy> try this
[23:00] <ryguy> sudo mousepad /etc/network/interfaces
[23:00] <S0210> ryguy: rather with the -x@exclude.lst option I just don't know how to define subdirectories in general
[23:00] <ryguy> then make it look like this
[23:00] <ryguy> iface eth0 inet static
[23:00] <ryguy> address <your internal IP>
[23:00] <ryguy> netmask <netmask - probably 255.255.255.0>
[23:00] <ryguy> network <the network ip, eg. 192.168.0.0>
[23:00] <ryguy> broadcast <the broadcast address, eg. 192.168.0.255>
[23:00] <ryguy> gateway <the IP of your cable modem>
[23:01] <ryguy> dns-nameservers <the ip's of the dns servers you are using>
[23:01] <ryguy> then sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[23:01] <ryguy> s0210: try #ubuntu, they'll prolly know
[23:01] <tehC0unt> alright so delete whats in there
[23:02] <ryguy> yup but back it up on some file on your desktop or something
[23:02] <S0210> :-l
[23:03] <tehC0unt> k 1 moment
[23:03] <ryguy> lol sorry buddy, cant help everyone =s
[23:04] <tehC0unt> sorry for the dumb question but how do i find out all of my addresses
[23:04] <tehC0unt> oh alright i got the bcast address
[23:04] <tehC0unt> and the mask
[23:04] <ryguy> hey before you save it
[23:05] <ryguy> hey before you save it
[23:05] <ryguy> bah
[23:05] <tehC0unt> haha
[23:05] <tehC0unt> tyhat always happens to me i dk why
[23:05] <ryguy> put the old stuff into the file and put the new stuff into the backup file and save em
[23:05] <ryguy> then try this `sudo sh -c 'echo blacklist ipv6 >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local'`
[23:05] <ryguy> without the `'s
[23:06] <ryguy> the `sudo reboot`
[23:06] <tehC0unt> ok 1 sec
[23:07] <tehC0unt> do i need the quotes around echo blacklist?
[23:08] <ryguy> sudo sh -c 'echo blacklist ipv6 >> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.local'
[23:08] <ryguy> like that
[23:09] <tehC0unt> ok
[23:09] <tehC0unt> it says that it cannot create it because
[23:09] <tehC0unt> the directory is nonexistant
[23:10] <ryguy> now that is weird.
[23:10] <tehC0unt> unless one of us typed it wrong
[23:10] <tehC0unt> i doubt that though
[23:11] <tehC0unt> yeah mine matches what u said
[23:12] <ryguy> what xubuntu are you using?
[23:12] <ryguy> 9.04?
[23:13] <tehC0unt> is there a way to check
[23:14] <ryguy> uh
[23:14] <ryguy> when you installed
[23:14] <ryguy> lol
[23:14] <tehC0unt> haha well i made the disc a while ago
[23:14] <ryguy> how long ago?
[23:14] <tehC0unt> prob this time last year or so
[23:15] <tehC0unt> maybe a little later
[23:15] <ryguy> oh okay here
[23:15] <ryguy> start menu > help
[23:16] <tehC0unt> alright just takin a min here to open uppppp
[23:17] <tehC0unt> 8.04
[23:17] <ryguy> yikes
[23:17] <ryguy> you gotta cd drive?
[23:17] <tehC0unt> do you think that might be causing the problem?
[23:17] <tehC0unt> yes sir
[23:18] <tehC0unt> the one on my laptop though is broken
[23:18] <tehC0unt> so i cant burn a new disc right now
[23:18] <tehC0unt> i could put it on a usb if that is possible
[23:18] <ryguy> well every update has updated drivers and such, your version isalmost 2 years old now
[23:18] <tehC0unt> oh wow haha
[23:19] <ryguy> oh god haha, the last guy i was helpin had hella problems with usb installation =/
[23:19] <tehC0unt> haha bummer
[23:19] <tehC0unt> actually
[23:19] <tehC0unt> my friend has a program
[23:19] <tehC0unt> called keryx
[23:19] <tehC0unt> and its made for updating comps w/o internet connections
[23:19] <tehC0unt> or dialup
[23:19] <ryguy> well i guess you can try it
[23:19] <ryguy> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/karmic/alpha-6/
[23:20] <tehC0unt> alright ill have to get into that and come back later or somethin
[23:20] <ryguy> yeah man ill be here
[23:20] <tehC0unt> i really really really appreciate all your help though
[23:21] <tehC0unt> thank you even if i havent come to a solution yet
[23:21] <ryguy> its all good, ive received tons of help from random irc folks
[23:21] <ryguy> lol np =p
[23:21] <tehC0unt> i just wish i knew what was goin on
[23:21] <ryguy> same here man
[23:21] <tehC0unt> it shows that i am connected
[23:21] <tehC0unt> in the right corner
[23:22] <tehC0unt> do you think maybe there is a firewall i dont know about? ahha
[23:22] <ryguy> you might wanna try switching out the network cards though
[23:22] <ryguy> possibly, can you check the router settings?
[23:22] <tehC0unt> thats what ive been doing
[23:22] <tehC0unt> im not sure
[23:22] <ryguy> you're not sure?
[23:22] <tehC0unt> by router do you mean the switch
[23:22] <tehC0unt> or the modem
[23:22] <ryguy> is it your router?
[23:22] <ryguy> the modem
[23:22] <tehC0unt> there must be a way
[23:22] <ryguy> the lil box with blinky stuff on it with one ethernet wire comming from it
[23:22] <tehC0unt> yes yes
[23:23] <tehC0unt> i think to check it i might have to go to the charter website or something
[23:23] <ryguy> charter?
[23:23] <tehC0unt> yeah theyre my isp
[23:24] <ryguy> nah
[23:24] <tehC0unt> i dont have software on my comp
[23:24] <tehC0unt> to check the router
[23:24] <tehC0unt> if thats what you mean
[23:24] <ryguy> you gotta check the routers name and model and google for how to access it. usually you connect to an ip like http://192.0.0.10 or something
[23:24] <tehC0unt> ohh yeah yeah
[23:24] <tehC0unt> i used to do that to connect to my neighbors wireless haha
[23:24] <tehC0unt> ill have to look that up right now
[23:24] <ryguy> lol yeah
[23:27] <ryguy> mm tunnaa
[23:29] <tehC0unt> haha
[23:29] <ryguy> ?
[23:29] <tehC0unt> alright i think im getting some info here
[23:29] <tehC0unt> the tuna i meant
[23:29] <ryguy> oh lol
[23:30] <tehC0unt> alright i found the site alright
[23:30] <tehC0unt> all it does is let me look at my stats
[23:31] <tehC0unt> im pretty sure charter is blocking it
[23:31] <tehC0unt> like blocking me frrom configuration
[23:31] <ryguy> thats impossible
[23:31] <ryguy> theres no way to set it?
[23:31] <ryguy> gimmie the site you found it on
[23:31] <tehC0unt> 192.168.100.1
[23:32] <ryguy> -_- i mean like
[23:32] <ryguy> whats your rouder make and model
[23:32] <tehC0unt> oh its atlanta scientific
[23:32] <tehC0unt> webstar
[23:32] <ryguy> i wouldnt be able to access that lol
[23:32] <tehC0unt> haha yeah i wasnt sure why u wanted it
[23:32] <ryguy> whats the make though?
[23:33] <ryguy> like DPC 2100, DCP 2203c..?
[23:33] <tehC0unt> dpc2100r2
[23:34] <ryguy> and its on a switch which is connected to what your on right now?
[23:34] <tehC0unt> yes
[23:34] <tehC0unt> 5 port switch
[23:35] <ryguy> is the switch easily accessable? can you try to switch the wire with your wire?
[23:35] <tehC0unt> switch the wire plugged into each comp?
[23:36] <ryguy> like on the switch, switch the two plugs say the computer your on now is connected to the first one and the other is connected to the second, put the wire conencted to the second plug into the first and vise versa
[23:36] <tehC0unt> oh oh ok
[23:36] <ryguy> the plug might be broken
[23:37] <ryguy> (we shoulda started out this way, checking for broken plugs)
[23:37] <tehC0unt> alright i switched em all up
[23:38] <ryguy> O_o what? you should have disconnected to irc...
[23:38] <tehC0unt> i did it quickly haha
[23:38] <ryguy> lol i wish i was there
[23:38] <tehC0unt> yeah me too i have no idea what the hell is goin on
[23:38] <ryguy> are you sure? I mean you /definatly/ shoulda disconnected to irc
[23:38] <tehC0unt> just pinged and same result
[23:38] <tehC0unt> here ill unplug right now hold on
[23:40] <tehC0unt> it just takes a second
[23:40] <tehC0unt> check check
[23:40] <tehC0unt> hello?
[23:40] <ryguy> wow
[23:40] <ryguy> thats kinda cool
[23:40] <tehC0unt> haha
[23:40] <ryguy> but anyways i that means the plug isnt broken
[23:40] <tehC0unt> did u get anything i said?
[23:40] <tehC0unt> yeah
[23:40] <ryguy> so the next logical step would be to test the network adapter
[23:41] <tehC0unt> the switch?
[23:41] <ryguy> if you still get the same results with a different network adapter, then its definatly linux and you should go ahead and install xubuntu 9.10
[23:41] <ryguy> nono the netwrok card inside the computer
[23:41] <tehC0unt> oh
[23:41] <tehC0unt> well
[23:41] <tehC0unt> i tried it on both
[23:41] <tehC0unt> one of them is brand new
[23:41] <ryguy> wow really
[23:41] <tehC0unt> one of them is old
[23:41] <tehC0unt> the old one gets recognized
[23:42] <ryguy> well
[23:42] <tehC0unt> the new one i dont think has the drivers in or something
[23:42] <tehC0unt> because it does not get recognized
[23:42] <ryguy> install the new one and go for xubuntu 9.10
[23:42] <tehC0unt> yeah i will have to take that road
[23:42] <ryguy> hopefully that'll work
[23:42] <tehC0unt> i mean the old network card is pretty old
[23:42] <tehC0unt> like 8 years at least
[23:42] <tehC0unt> so i dk why the old version of xubuntu wouldnt have the driver for it you know?
[23:43] <ryguy> well the new one is prolly newer than your version of xubuntu
[23:43] <tehC0unt> yeah true
[23:43] <tehC0unt> damnit
[23:43] <tehC0unt> oh well i gotta get going for now
[23:43] <tehC0unt> i will let you know how this pans out
[23:44] <tehC0unt> and hopefully ill see u on here again soon
[23:44] <ryguy> alright man, hit me up at c00lryguy@gmail.com if im not on here
[23:44] <SiDi_> yay, lets add the address to #xubuntu's topic so ryguy does all the support =D
[23:45] <ryguy> D=
[23:45] <ryguy> lol
[23:45] <tehC0unt> hahaha
[23:45] <tehC0unt> u might as well
[23:45] <tehC0unt> thansk again man
[23:45] <ryguy> I'm not even that great with linux, either O_o I mean I only started really messing around with it about a year ago
[23:45] <ryguy> yeah np