[01:53] <refic> ripuliukko
[06:15] <nixternal> ScottK: groovy on the ppa project....though with the ninjas as a maintainer, I can't help at all :)
[09:44] <Quintasan> hmm, wtf is with pinentry, kontact propably fails to call it and I can't even input the password to sign my mail :/
[12:04] <apachelogger> hola
[12:04] <apachelogger> ScottK: there is something very wrong if we consider "mostly not broken translations"  a good thing
[12:09] <Quintasan_> damn I can't even sign my mails :/
[12:11] <apachelogger> Quintasan: did you break it? :P
[12:12] <Quintasan> nope it was broken
[12:12] <apachelogger> who broke it then?
[12:12] <Quintasan> I don't even get a password prompt :S
[12:12] <Quintasan> dunno
[12:13] <apachelogger> fancy
[12:13]  * apachelogger loves when stuff breaks for no apparent reason 
[12:13] <Quintasan> Kontact says: "Signing failed: Bad password" instead of asking me for a password :D
[12:13]  * apachelogger also loves the ongoing step-child discussion
[12:14] <apachelogger> Quintasan: well either you dont have an agent, or it is the wrong one or the agent itself is broken
[12:14] <apachelogger> that is an educated guess :P
[12:14] <Quintasan> I have pinentry-qt
[12:14] <Quintasan> clear
[12:14] <Quintasan> grr
[12:14] <Quintasan> gpg-agent[6741]: can't connect to `/home/quintasan/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent': No such file or directory
[12:14] <Quintasan> wut
[12:14] <apachelogger> permissions maybe?
[12:15]  * apachelogger also loves when people complain about broken stuff that was never ever reported
[12:17] <Quintasan> grr, I need  to figure it out but eating is more tempting than fixing broken gpg agent
[12:18] <apachelogger> time to break my KDE for testing purpose
[12:18]  * Quintasan succumbs to temptation
[12:18] <apachelogger> eating is a waste of time though???
[13:04] <JontheEchinda> ^lol
[13:07] <JontheEchinda> Riddell: bug 345776, maybe it needs an explicit python-kde4 dependency?
[13:07] <JontheEchinda> er, wrong bug
[13:07] <JontheEchinda> bug 436864
[13:17] <apachelogger> I do not like freezes
[13:17] <apachelogger> oh
[13:17] <apachelogger> right
[13:17] <apachelogger> so your restricted stuff patches are pretty ugly alright
[13:33] <apachelogger> hm
[13:33]  * apachelogger notes that apparently our generated pots contain stuff from obj-* :S
[13:35] <Quintasan> ohshi,
[13:35]  * Quintasan ate too much
[13:39] <apachelogger> WTH
[13:39] <apachelogger> https://translations.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/kde4libs/+pots/kdelibs4/de/1310/+translate
[13:39] <apachelogger> still I get Ctrl
[13:52] <apachelogger> ah
[13:52] <apachelogger> nice
[13:52] <apachelogger> hoorays for mo stripping
[13:52] <apachelogger> Ctrl comes from kdeqt which is apprently not generated anywhere make me wanna nuke all that rosetta stuff
[13:55] <Quintasan> LOL
[13:56] <Quintasan> looks like nearest airport is in Berlin
[13:56] <Quintasan> :D
[13:56] <Quintasan> argh
[13:56] <Quintasan> I need to gather info first
[13:57]  * Quintasan has awful memories of going somewhere spontaneously
[14:47] <jtechidna> apachelogger: ah, so that's what's causing bug 410128?
[14:53] <Quintasan> Riddell: ping
[14:54] <Quintasan> jtechidna: going to UDS?
[14:55] <jtechidna> I can't with school and all :(
[14:56] <Quintasan> I'd like to go but if I don't get sponsorship paying < 9000 polish zloty is a little bit over my parent's budget :S
[15:09] <Quintasan> Riddell: submitted sponsorship request, my father said it's a little expensive but he can go with me
[16:40] <Tonio_> rgreening: while testing usb creator, I noticed that the "format" option doesn't work...
[16:40] <Tonio_> rgreening: it end partitions deleted, a new one created, but without a file system on it
[16:40] <Tonio_> rgreening: is that known issue ? can be quite annoying I think...
[16:41] <mfraz74> when boot now I get an error box saying logging in mfraser-kde... a critical error occured. please look at KDM's logfile(s) for more information
[16:41] <mfraz74> should've said when booting up now..
[16:43] <ScottK> apachelogger: "Mostly not broken" would be progress on translations.
[16:44] <ScottK> nixternal: We'll need to get a better team for that PPA bugs project, but that seemed like a good start.
[16:44] <nixternal> heh, right as I login :)
[16:46] <mfraz74> problem solved now
[17:23] <Quintasan> is there ongoing development for Telepathy frontend for KDE?
[17:28] <Riddell> yes, collabora are working on things
[17:33] <apachelogger> ScottK: at this point I do not think progress is sufficient anymore
[17:33]  * apachelogger must say that he finds that whole rosetta import thing more and more stupid
[17:33] <ScottK> apachelogger: Fair enough, on the other hand, I certainly don't want to over promise.
[17:33] <apachelogger> it's just like having a billion billion patches, and we all know what my point on patches is dont we
[17:34] <apachelogger> ScottK: aye good point, we are the devs and we are not even confident enough to say that nothing will break :S
[17:34] <apachelogger> what am I saying ... it is not even working
[17:34] <apachelogger> kdeqt.pot is missing completely as I noticed today
[17:37] <ScottK> Lovely
[17:40] <ScottK> Riddell: I forgot to add the security patches to the kde4ilbs I backported yesterday.  Would you please accept the updated kde4libs in jaunty-backports (LP U/I still fails on it).
[17:42] <apachelogger> JontheEchinda: aye
[17:43] <Riddell> ScottK: done
[17:44] <ScottK> Riddell: Thanks.
[17:44] <ScottK> Riddell: Were there any other KDE packages in Jaunty that had security updates?
[17:48] <yuriy> nixternal: debdiff attached to bug 415237
[17:48] <apachelogger> hm
[17:48] <apachelogger> comments on nixternal are quite meh
[17:48] <apachelogger> nixternal's blog post that is
[17:49] <yuriy> whoa what happened to his blog. i liked the skyline pic
[17:55] <Riddell> does the t-shirt he's wearing on the photo on his blog say "I love to stare"?
[18:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: I would suppose we should reject member applications from kubuntu-members that are not listed on the meeting page?
[18:11] <apachelogger> which would be all pretty much :)
[18:28] <Riddell> apachelogger: yep
[18:30] <apachelogger> Riddell: done
[18:33] <apachelogger> Riddell: a question of more technical matter. I am enabling Konqueror to request flash installation via update-notifier-kde, one thing I noticed was that the app name is hardcoded and, which is even worse, non-translatable, so instead I was going to obtain the translated name from aboutdata, however... since the returned value might not be latin1, does the argument have to be latin1? if so, is there any way we could make it not
[18:33] <apachelogger>  require to be latin1?
[18:33] <apachelogger> I find it quite ugly to have the appname translatable but then not to reuse that translate in the name passed to update-notifer
[18:36] <Riddell> "does the argument have"  argument to what?
[18:41] <yuriy> how do you unduplicate something in the new LP
[18:43] <JontheEchinda> clear the field and press ok should do that
[18:43] <apachelogger> Riddell: the dbus message to update-notifier
[18:43] <apachelogger> +  dbusargs.append(KonqFactory::aboutData()->programName());
[18:43] <apachelogger> +  dbusargs.append(QLatin1String("flashplugin-installer"));
[18:44] <JontheEchinda> that was fast: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=208691 ^_^
[18:44] <apachelogger> that is what I have right now ... where the former would usually be QLatin1String("Konqueror"))
[18:44] <apachelogger> that however clashes with the fact that programName could technically contain non latin characters
[18:46] <yuriy> JontheEchinda: *should*
[18:46] <Riddell> hmm, not sure what that's for
[18:46] <apachelogger> :)
[18:47] <apachelogger> Riddell: if I convert a QString to a QLatin1String, could that be reversed?
[18:47]  * apachelogger thinks of converting appName to latin1 and then let update-notifier de-latin1ify it
[18:51] <yuriy> apachelogger: you'd probably lose some characters
[18:51] <apachelogger> :S
[18:53] <yuriy> JontheEchinda: that works in FF but konq puts the text back in the box when i click ok
[18:54] <JontheEchinda> yet another victory for KHTML :(
[18:56] <apachelogger> hm
[18:56] <apachelogger> Riddell: seems the arg does not need to be Latin1
[18:57] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/snapshot040.png
[18:58] <nixternal> Riddell: "I love to share" :)
[18:58]  * apachelogger finds that translations of konqueror quite priceless
[18:58] <nixternal> haha, I love to stare
[18:58] <nixternal> it's official, I suck at C++ again!
[18:59]  * apachelogger once did as well, then he did not so bad, and now does again :)
[18:59] <nixternal> ya, same here
[18:59] <apachelogger> ruby is superior anyway :P
[18:59] <nixternal> playing with python so much I have lost touch
[19:01] <nixternal> apachelogger: re: comments on the blog post...I totally forgot about borked translations, because I don't use them which I know is bad to forget about. but the rest we get blamed for when 99% of the time it isn't us (re: network mangler)...package app wise, meh that has to be worked on...the artwork stuff, umm people can change that to whatever
[19:39] <jussi01> apachelogger: aah crap, I forgot I put that application in.
[20:23] <Quintasan|livecd> hmmm
[20:24] <Quintasan|livecd> ubiquity won't start on amd64 beta 6 livecd
[20:31] <Quintasan1> :/
[20:32] <Quintasan1> launching ubiquity from console hangs whole livecd
[20:41] <Quintasan> grrr
[20:42] <Quintasan> anyone?
[20:45] <yuriy> Quintasan: try a daily?
[20:53] <Quintasan> hmm
[22:04] <yuriy> fixed kdm was uploaded? doesn't seem to be working here
[22:09] <freinhard> hi!
[23:13] <sourcemaker> I have a urgend problem with the kernel... my systems crashs very often... with the error message: "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed"... but i don't find more information about the reason and how to solve the problem
[23:15] <yuriy> sourcemaker: you'll probably have more luck in #ubuntu
[23:15] <yuriy> for support
[23:22] <sourcemaker> thx