[03:06] <seidos> hi
[03:07] <Wolter> i guess marketers are pretty idle
[03:21] <rbergeron> anyone around? :)
[03:23] <Takyoji> Yes
[03:27] <rbergeron> hi :) i was wondering if anyone knows who the key person is for doing the ubuntu surveys you guys have done in the past...
[03:27]  * rbergeron is from the fedora-mktg team and handing mkt research and wondering about maybe doing a joint survey with some of the other distros
[03:28] <Takyoji> Well, the primary contact of the Ubuntu marketing team is DPic
[03:29] <Takyoji> otherwise I don't know of other people in specific
[03:29] <Takyoji> You could also ask on #ubuntu-locoteams, which is more active, and should have someone that should know
[03:30] <rbergeron> cool. thank you :)
[03:31] <Takyoji> Otherwise this is just a community team I believe.
[03:33] <Takyoji> In other words, this team isn't operated by Canonical
[03:35] <rbergeron> right
[21:37] <MarkDude> How often is this channel used?
[21:40] <Takyoji> In regards of?
[21:40] <Takyoji> otherwise it's fairly quiet since nobody else seems to be willing to actually discuss much at all..
[21:40] <MarkDude> brainstorming on marketing ubuntu
[21:41] <MarkDude> are there scheduled meetings? Or is this done with mailing lists?
[21:41] <Takyoji> I don't think there's any scheduled meetings currently
[21:42] <Takyoji> This channel just needs more regulars rather than just idlers
[21:42] <MarkDude> People call me an Ubuntu evangelist. I have read lots on the how to do it. 
[21:43] <Takyoji> and also things to discuss
[21:43] <Takyoji> have you looked at the Spread Ubuntu effort at all?
[21:43] <MarkDude> 1 of my goals is to try to help make the community more diverse
[21:43] <Takyoji> http://spreadubuntu.neomenlo.org/
[21:44] <MarkDude> yes it has great content. IMHO it is terribly organized & clunky
[21:45] <Takyoji> What would be some suggestions of yours for improvement?
[21:46] <MarkDude> My #1 solution always involves meeting in person- if at all possible
[21:46] <MarkDude> or i like to say - all problems can be solved with beer & BBQ
[21:46] <Takyoji> :P
[21:47] <Takyoji> In regards of the marketing team, or just in general? :P
[21:47] <MarkDude> mid-east crisis, the crusades, & marketing.
[21:48] <MarkDude> here in Norther california we are trying to organize a big party with music & more for the karmic release
[21:48] <Takyoji> ahh
[21:49] <Takyoji> The Minnesota area is pretty much inactive currently; there is one individual that coordinates an installfest for each release, but that's about it. I'm hoping to make my LoCo team more active
[21:50] <MarkDude> more specifically - that being a geek is not a requirement. I'm a geek but, not all of of us in the area are
[21:50] <Takyoji> Yea
[21:51] <MarkDude> Ubuntu is user friendly. We use coffee shops for promoting hands on use of open-source in general
[21:51] <MarkDude> I realize not everywhere has as many coffee shops as we do
[21:52] <Takyoji> Linutop, or?
[21:52] <Takyoji> or a typical desktop with an Ubuntu installation?
[21:52] <MarkDude> It's a little less OS specific but wikipedia's beer project has helped get some interested
[21:52] <Takyoji> (just curious)
[21:53] <MarkDude> Ubuntu mostly. We also use some fedora & I also like puppy linux
[21:53] <Takyoji> ahh
[21:54] <Takyoji> Puppy Linux just needs a little modification to be more user friendly, like to the level of Ubuntu. But yes, it is very light and versatile
[21:54] <MarkDude> we practice 'humanity towards other operating systems.
[21:55] <MarkDude> puppys developer is working on WOOF. by next year it should be compatible with ubuntus repositories
[21:55] <Takyoji> ahh
[21:56] <MarkDude> http://www.tcopencircuit.org/freegeek/
[21:56] <MarkDude> have you talked to free geek
[21:57] <MarkDude> they started in portland & have at least 12 other grouos in north america
[21:57] <Takyoji> Haven't heard of them previously if I remember correctly
[21:57] <MarkDude> we are also trying to do the same here in norcal.
[21:58] <MarkDude> freegeek portland rocks - they are a great resource. I met someone from twincities there last year
[21:58] <Takyoji> ahh
[21:58] <MarkDude> I know they would be good to at least partner with
[21:59] <Takyoji> Apparently a few parts of their website are undermaintained it seems
[21:59] <Takyoji> but yea
[21:59] <Takyoji> I'm about an hour away from the Twin Cities
[21:59] <MarkDude> freegeek.org has been around since 2000
[22:00] <MarkDude> might be worth an email though
[22:00] <Takyoji> yea
[22:00] <MarkDude> I am part of some local lugs
[22:00] <MarkDude> & a forming non-profit  called gidgetkitchen.org
[22:02] <MarkDude> I like diversity & many users groups are mostly white dudes (like me)
[22:02] <Takyoji> :P
[22:03] <MarkDude> Hopefully some of the idlers have some ideas on creating big events. email mark [at] gidgetkitchen.org
[22:03] <MarkDude> do you always carry some CDs with you?
[22:03] <Takyoji> otherwise you're also free to talk to me via Jabber/Google Talk
[22:04] <Takyoji> Yes, I always carry CDs in fact.
[22:04] <Takyoji> I don't the official ones though; just ones I've burned on my own
[22:07] <MarkDude> Grantbow does the same - he thinks it represents the grassroots nature of ubnut maybe better
[22:07] <Takyoji> interesting Wordpress theme by the way
[22:08] <Takyoji> and content as well
[22:08] <Takyoji> Right now I'm trying to think of how to structure an afterschool group I'll be starting in about 9 days; working on the slideshow for it right now
[22:09] <MarkDude> thank you. 
[22:10] <MarkDude> find allies & use a logo. 
[22:10] <Takyoji> People interested were surveyed on what topic they'd be interested in for the group, the primary aspect was web design. I intend to additionally do a little FOSS advocacy through it as well
[22:11] <MarkDude> at one point i was using a picture of tux. & had the caption who the heck is tux the penguin & what the $%@# does he have to do with me?
[22:11] <MarkDude> it worked to create some interest
[22:11] <Takyoji> heh ahh
[22:13] <MarkDude> good luck on the slideshow. contact freegeek they can really help even if you just have reciprocal links
[22:33] <Takyoji> otherwise be sure to be on this channel regularly; so hopefully there can be more activity/discussion possible in this channel
[22:59] <MarkDude> takyoji: thanx I will try to do that. good luck on your ventures