[16:43] <knome> hey!
[16:43] <thorwil> ho!
[16:43] <knome> does anybody know any possibilities to theme start.ubuntu.com ?
[21:43] <GreySim> knome: For Firefox, the Stylish extension might help you.
[21:44] <GreySim> If you just want personal customizations.
[21:48] <knome> no, i want derivative-specific customization
[22:00] <MadsRH> knome -> Hi
[22:07] <knome> hi MadsRH! :)
[22:10] <MadsRH> knome -> wanted to ask you about the x-splash in Xubuntu, but I guess I found the answer here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Karmic
[22:10] <knome> actually i'm just working on it
[22:10] <knome> but we have thought your "idea 4" (the fireflys)
[22:12] <MadsRH> knome -> Oh..?
[22:12] <knome> yeah.
[22:12] <knome> it would be hard to achieve but would be kewl
[22:13] <knome> you have any ideas how one could accomplish it?
[22:13] <MadsRH> knome -> I'm not sure what you mean.
[22:13] <MadsRH> You want the firefly as x-splash?
[22:14] <knome> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlCVrtgxVcI&hl=en&fs=1&hd=1
[22:14] <knome> this one, we'd love it.
[22:15] <MadsRH> But I've already made it available as an actual x-splash!
[22:15] <knome> really? where?
[22:15] <MadsRH> http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/09/karmic-status-and-artwork-update.html
[22:15] <knome> didn't know that!
[22:16] <MadsRH> knome -> you should visit the forum every now and then ;-)
[22:16] <knome> maybe ;)
[22:16] <knome> how did you do that png?
[22:18] <MadsRH> with evil proprietary software :-$ and "cnn" from the forum helped me put the png images together
[22:18] <knome> i'm willing to hear more
[22:19] <MadsRH> I know nothing about x-splash, but it simply replaces the current throbber and boom
[22:19] <knome> i know that.
[22:19] <knome> i want to know more about the png creating process ;)
[22:23] <MadsRH> Well, create an animation with a transparent background as export it as PNG's and stick them together using "convert"
[22:23] <knome> no no no
[22:23] <knome> which software did you use? how did you create that effect?
[22:23] <MadsRH> http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7939264&postcount=169
[22:23] <knome> was it hard?
[22:24] <MadsRH> nope
[22:24] <knome> tell me more :)
[22:25] <MadsRH> *** back in 5
[22:25] <knome> ok hehe
[22:25] <knome> no pressure ;)
[22:51] <MadsRH> knome -> Baby alert – sorry
[22:51] <MadsRH> Anyway, I use After Effects
[22:52] <knome> okay
[22:52] <MadsRH> knome -> I get a lot bashing in the open-source world for using Adobe products, but I know that Canonicals artteam also it, which comforts me. It’s just de facto standard in the graphics business
[22:52] <knome> agree
[22:53] <knome> could you control the flys or are they random?
[22:53] <MadsRH> but what about Xubuntu? should we create something slick for Karmic?
[22:54] <knome> yeah, i am thinking a possibility to get some blue fireflys for our xsplash x)
[22:54] <knome> or at least see how it would look like
[22:54] <MadsRH> random
[22:55] <MadsRH> sure
[22:56] <MadsRH> So you want blue fireflys on this background? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Artwork/Karmic?action=AttachFile&do=view&target=karmic-wall-07.png
[22:57] <knome> yeah
[22:57] <knome> something quite saturated and bright, i thin
[22:57] <knome> +k
[22:59] <MadsRH> but still the same animation as in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StNanFooAu8
[22:59] <knome> the animation can be same, or if you want, you can do another set of sparkles :)
[23:01] <MadsRH> knome -> it is easy to just change the color - it's creating the animation that takes time
[23:01] <knome> ah, ok, then just change the color
[23:01] <MadsRH> Is there still time for something like this to make it in?
[23:01] <knome> with xubuntu, there always is
[23:01] <knome> ;)
[23:02] <MadsRH> he he
[23:03] <MadsRH> have you tried the PNG from the blogpost? It might not look bad on the blue background?
[23:03] <knome> i'm not running karmic :(
[23:03] <MadsRH> oh
[23:03] <MadsRH> Nor me
[23:04] <knome> i have karmic in vbox so i can test several things
[23:04] <knome> but no, havent tried with the orange sparks
[23:04] <knome> but i think we want blue sparks even if the orange sparks looked good ;)
[23:05] <MadsRH> sure
[23:07] <MadsRH> but you can test it? or should I ask "cnn" from the forum? he was very helpful and friendly
[23:07] <knome> i can test it, sure
[23:07] <MadsRH> okay, fantastic. It's past midnight here and I've got a sick son, so I won't have anything for you tonight.
[23:08] <knome> no problem. if you want, you can pop at #xubuntu-devel when you have something :)
[23:08] <knome> hope your son gets well soon
[23:08] <MadsRH> Oh, I should mention the file size is HUGE compared to the original Canonical one
[23:09] <knome> no problem with that either
[23:09] <knome> i could see that coming :)
[23:09] <MadsRH> he he, I hope so too.
[23:10] <MadsRH> I have to ask; sure you want the fireflies and not a running mouse :P
[23:10] <knome> YES! :P
[23:10] <knome> the running mouse has appeared in ideas
[23:10] <knome> and it's always been dumped
[23:11] <MadsRH> good thing
[23:11] <knome> it is:))
[23:12] <MadsRH> I'll get back to you soon - good night
[23:12] <knome> night - and thanks :)