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Rocket2DMn"Changing the boot menu timeout" and "Changing the default operating system to boot"00:00
XDevHaldAye, Easy to change boot timeout and moving the default up or down.00:01
Rocket2DMnI havent fiddled with grub2 to write that documentation for grub200:02
Rocket2DMnI wonder if we might need a string freeze exception to get that stuff in there00:02
Rocket2DMnunless we can cram it in before the freeze00:02
XDevHaldThe freeze is on the 1st right?00:02
Rocket2DMnyeah00:02
XDevHaldIf you can get or find me a landing page for Grub2 I can pull up the work and have it done before the 1st00:03
Rocket2DMnhere's the bug i filed - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/43744600:03
ubot4Launchpad bug 437446 in ubuntu-docs "Need documentation on Grub2" [Undecided,New]00:03
Rocket2DMnthere is a link to the Grub2 page on the team wiki00:03
Rocket2DMnafaik, that is the only ubuntu documentation on grub2 right now00:04
XDevHaldYeah I see it. hmmm00:04
XDevHaldThey already have the Timeout added on the "Errors" sub-menu, pretty self-explanitory. They do not however have Error 1500:05
Rocket2DMnI don't think we document troubleshooting grub errors in the system documentation00:06
Rocket2DMnthere is also stuff about grub in the serverguide which needs to be added to.00:06
Rocket2DMnmdke, I thought you were going to change the title back to my version on the firewall document - "Firewall and network monitoring"01:24
Rocket2DMnnot a big deal either way01:24
XDevHaldHey Rocket. I appreciate you guys letting me in the team but I will have to move on as this appears to not be my field of work anymore.01:55
Rocket2DMnXDevHald, sorry to hear that.  Why do you feel that way?02:09
XDevHaldI have tried to gather my work, and of course having a 1 year old boy and married it is very difficult to even think.02:09
Rocket2DMnXDevHald, if you can't get the grub2 documentation, that's ok02:11
Rocket2DMnwe don't normally work in a time crunch like this02:11
Rocket2DMnThere is other documentation type work you can do if you want02:12
XDevHaldYeah, I know which is why I found it weird for a gathered doc before freeze.02:12
Rocket2DMndon't worry about that then02:12
Rocket2DMnyou can still make changes after string freeze, they just won't go into Karmic, they will go into Lucid02:13
XDevHaldSounds great Rocket. I haven't touched the wiki in 3 years, I'll need a little help (coding I am a guru at) but just guidance on what to do and what is need and where to go from there.02:13
Rocket2DMnyou can also do wiki work if you want02:13
XDevHaldI'll stick with the wiki work.02:13
XDevHaldSys I'll leave for you guys.02:13
Rocket2DMnsure, that's actually where I do most of my work02:13
Rocket2DMnhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Wiki02:14
Rocket2DMnhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag02:15
Rocket2DMnwe use tags these days to mark pages that need work02:15
XDevHaldExcellent. Now how do I know what needs work and etc. Just need a starting point and I can go from there.02:16
Rocket2DMneach tag section has a link - "List of pages with this tag. "02:18
korin43Hi, I have to write a short-ish manual for a technical writing class and i was wondering if anyone has an idea. I'm relatively good at this. I could write a manual on packaging, but the updates needed to the packing guide aren't enough to get a good grade in the class. I also thought about kernel compiling, which needs a better manual badly, but I think it would be too complicated for the teacher.05:53
Savvyhi guys07:20
Savvyim a newbie to linux i just wanted to know tht how can i edit my shell?07:23
mdkemorning all08:42
mdkekorin43: we have a list of current tasks here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Tasks - if anything takes your fancy, then feel free to contact the mailing list. Some people might already be working on particular items so it's good to contact the list first08:44
SpacePigeonHi08:57
SpacePigeonI am willing to join the documentation team.08:57
SpacePigeonIs there any project I can start helping on?09:00
mdkeSpacePigeon: yes, there is always plenty to do. You should find information about tasks and how to contribute on the pages beginning at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam09:05
mdkeSpacePigeon: but feel free to ask any questions if you have any, either here or on the mailing list09:05
SpacePigeonOk09:05
SpacePigeonI am browsing a Taks wiki page under the DocumentationTeam link, thanks for pointing me to the right direction09:05
SpacePigeonmdke, so, I went into a launchpad bug page. Should I start working on only the "New" items?09:07
SpacePigeonor on the confirmed?09:07
mdkeSpacePigeon: either is fine, as long as no one else is working on them09:09
SpacePigeonmdke, nice. Ill start right off..09:10
mdkeSpacePigeon: awesome!09:11
SpacePigeonmdke, is there some way I can filter english and spanish bugs only?09:12
mdkeSpacePigeon: all bugs should be in English. If they aren't then we usually close them because we can't understand them as a team09:13
mdkeSpacePigeon: the exception to that is bugs in translations which might be in the applicable language09:13
SpacePigeonoh ok... so all tasks for DocumentationTeam are in english...09:13
mdkeyep09:15
mdkewe also have a lot of translation if you are interested in that; that is managed by the Ubuntu translation teams09:16
mdkethey translate Ubuntu software *and* documentation09:16
SpacePigeonYeah I might join one of those09:17
SpacePigeonTasks don't seem very well organized in the launchpad buglist09:17
SpacePigeonYeah I think I might as well start translating documentation09:17
mdkethey aren't that organised, unfortunately09:18
mdkethe tasks I mean.09:18
mdkehave a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations for translation info09:19
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SpacePigeonmdke, Because you are still here, I notify you that I was working on this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SuspendHowtoNew10:35
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SpacePigeonmdke, hi again18:19
Zachk18hello SpacePigeon18:19
SpacePigeonhi Zachk1818:21
SpacePigeonyeah, I submitted some documentation draft yesterday, do you want to check it?18:21
Zachk18ah sure...are you on a doc team?18:21
SpacePigeonhttp://help.ubuntu.com/community/SuspendHowtoNew18:21
SpacePigeonnot yet18:21
SpacePigeonI am volunteering18:22
Zachk18are you on any teams?18:22
missaugustinaSpacePigeon: send an email to the ubuntu-doc mailing list please.18:22
SpacePigeonoh ok18:22
SpacePigeonthats how it works, nice18:22
missaugustinaSpacePigeon: Anytime you want to work on something, send an email to the list to let people know.18:22
SpacePigeonOh I sent one? Maybe the system did18:22
missaugustinaSpacePigeon: Someone else might already be working on it.18:23
Zachk18SpacePigeon, i'll still review it for you. and i'll let you know..18:23
SpacePigeonmissaugustina, yeah, I went into the launchpad tasklist and assigned myself to the bug (is that the correct thing to do?) and then that sent an email to the list18:23
missaugustinaSpacePigeon: I didn't see an email from you but I will check again.18:23
SpacePigeonyeah, i'm wolter18:23
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missaugustinaSpacePigeon: Check with the list before assigning yourself a bug.18:23
Woltermissaugustina, will do18:24
missaugustinaWolter: the only  reason I say that is because I've done that before, assigned myself a bug only to find out that there are other folks working on something related to what I wanted to work on.18:25
WolterYes, I perfectly understand :)18:25
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missaugustinaThis is the wiki page for the Docteam - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/18:27
missaugustinaThis is the info on the mailing list - https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc18:27
Woltermissaugustina, thanks18:27
missaugustinaWolter: np :)18:28
missaugustinaThe wiki is  especially challenging because several people could be working on one thing and not know it.18:28
missaugustinaWe use the list as the main point of communication to avoid situations like that.18:28
WolterOh oops yeah I joined the team yesterday at launchpad18:29
Woltergood to know18:29
missaugustinaYeah lots of areas, it can be confusing to keep track of ;)18:29
missaugustinaI filter my emails so anything to the ubuntu-doc list is labeled one way and launchpad bugs are labeled somewhere else.18:30
missaugustinaSometimes LP bugs can be high traffic especially this close to a release, so people might miss if you are assigning yourself a bug.18:30
missaugustinaWolter: what is the bug that you assigned yourself?18:35
Woltermissaugustina, a bug about SuspendHowto being a deprecated document18:36
missaugustinaIs there a bug id#?18:36
missaugustinaThis was in Launchpad, right?18:36
missaugustinaI was looking for the notification in my email, but can't find anything.18:37
missaugustinaWolter: Thanks for helping out! Just be sure to email the list and let folks know about your submission :)18:49
Woltermissaugustina, yeah I just did18:49
Wolterhaha18:49
Zachk18shaunm, Gwaihir hello19:52
Gwaihirhi19:53
Zachk18so...welcome if it's your first19:54
Wolterhey Zachk18, how are you doing?20:01
Zachk18Wolter, hey20:02
Zachk18Wolter, anything you need?20:02
WolterZachk18, just wondering if you saw my draft yesterday20:03
WolterI understand if you have no time for it, I already linked it in the mailing list20:03
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Zachk18shaunm, welcome22:24
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