[00:00] <Rocket2DMn> "Changing the boot menu timeout" and "Changing the default operating system to boot"
[00:01] <XDevHald> Aye, Easy to change boot timeout and moving the default up or down.
[00:02] <Rocket2DMn> I havent fiddled with grub2 to write that documentation for grub2
[00:02] <Rocket2DMn> I wonder if we might need a string freeze exception to get that stuff in there
[00:02] <Rocket2DMn> unless we can cram it in before the freeze
[00:02] <XDevHald> The freeze is on the 1st right?
[00:02] <Rocket2DMn> yeah
[00:03] <XDevHald> If you can get or find me a landing page for Grub2 I can pull up the work and have it done before the 1st
[00:03] <Rocket2DMn> here's the bug i filed - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/437446
[00:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 437446 in ubuntu-docs "Need documentation on Grub2" [Undecided,New]
[00:03] <Rocket2DMn> there is a link to the Grub2 page on the team wiki
[00:04] <Rocket2DMn> afaik, that is the only ubuntu documentation on grub2 right now
[00:04] <XDevHald> Yeah I see it. hmmm
[00:05] <XDevHald> They already have the Timeout added on the "Errors" sub-menu, pretty self-explanitory. They do not however have Error 15
[00:06] <Rocket2DMn> I don't think we document troubleshooting grub errors in the system documentation
[00:06] <Rocket2DMn> there is also stuff about grub in the serverguide which needs to be added to.
[01:24] <Rocket2DMn> mdke, I thought you were going to change the title back to my version on the firewall document - "Firewall and network monitoring"
[01:24] <Rocket2DMn> not a big deal either way
[01:55] <XDevHald> Hey Rocket. I appreciate you guys letting me in the team but I will have to move on as this appears to not be my field of work anymore.
[02:09] <Rocket2DMn> XDevHald, sorry to hear that.  Why do you feel that way?
[02:09] <XDevHald> I have tried to gather my work, and of course having a 1 year old boy and married it is very difficult to even think.
[02:11] <Rocket2DMn> XDevHald, if you can't get the grub2 documentation, that's ok
[02:11] <Rocket2DMn> we don't normally work in a time crunch like this
[02:12] <Rocket2DMn> There is other documentation type work you can do if you want
[02:12] <XDevHald> Yeah, I know which is why I found it weird for a gathered doc before freeze.
[02:12] <Rocket2DMn> don't worry about that then
[02:13] <Rocket2DMn> you can still make changes after string freeze, they just won't go into Karmic, they will go into Lucid
[02:13] <XDevHald> Sounds great Rocket. I haven't touched the wiki in 3 years, I'll need a little help (coding I am a guru at) but just guidance on what to do and what is need and where to go from there.
[02:13] <Rocket2DMn> you can also do wiki work if you want
[02:13] <XDevHald> I'll stick with the wiki work.
[02:13] <XDevHald> Sys I'll leave for you guys.
[02:13] <Rocket2DMn> sure, that's actually where I do most of my work
[02:14] <Rocket2DMn> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Wiki
[02:15] <Rocket2DMn> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag
[02:15] <Rocket2DMn> we use tags these days to mark pages that need work
[02:16] <XDevHald> Excellent. Now how do I know what needs work and etc. Just need a starting point and I can go from there.
[02:18] <Rocket2DMn> each tag section has a link - "List of pages with this tag. "
[05:53] <korin43> Hi, I have to write a short-ish manual for a technical writing class and i was wondering if anyone has an idea. I'm relatively good at this. I could write a manual on packaging, but the updates needed to the packing guide aren't enough to get a good grade in the class. I also thought about kernel compiling, which needs a better manual badly, but I think it would be too complicated for the teacher.
[07:20] <Savvy> hi guys
[07:23] <Savvy> im a newbie to linux i just wanted to know tht how can i edit my shell?
[08:42] <mdke> morning all
[08:44] <mdke> korin43: we have a list of current tasks here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Tasks - if anything takes your fancy, then feel free to contact the mailing list. Some people might already be working on particular items so it's good to contact the list first
[08:57] <SpacePigeon> Hi
[08:57] <SpacePigeon> I am willing to join the documentation team.
[09:00] <SpacePigeon> Is there any project I can start helping on?
[09:05] <mdke> SpacePigeon: yes, there is always plenty to do. You should find information about tasks and how to contribute on the pages beginning at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam
[09:05] <mdke> SpacePigeon: but feel free to ask any questions if you have any, either here or on the mailing list
[09:05] <SpacePigeon> Ok
[09:05] <SpacePigeon> I am browsing a Taks wiki page under the DocumentationTeam link, thanks for pointing me to the right direction
[09:07] <SpacePigeon> mdke, so, I went into a launchpad bug page. Should I start working on only the "New" items?
[09:07] <SpacePigeon> or on the confirmed?
[09:09] <mdke> SpacePigeon: either is fine, as long as no one else is working on them
[09:10] <SpacePigeon> mdke, nice. Ill start right off..
[09:11] <mdke> SpacePigeon: awesome!
[09:12] <SpacePigeon> mdke, is there some way I can filter english and spanish bugs only?
[09:13] <mdke> SpacePigeon: all bugs should be in English. If they aren't then we usually close them because we can't understand them as a team
[09:13] <mdke> SpacePigeon: the exception to that is bugs in translations which might be in the applicable language
[09:13] <SpacePigeon> oh ok... so all tasks for DocumentationTeam are in english...
[09:15] <mdke> yep
[09:16] <mdke> we also have a lot of translation if you are interested in that; that is managed by the Ubuntu translation teams
[09:16] <mdke> they translate Ubuntu software *and* documentation
[09:17] <SpacePigeon> Yeah I might join one of those
[09:17] <SpacePigeon> Tasks don't seem very well organized in the launchpad buglist
[09:17] <SpacePigeon> Yeah I think I might as well start translating documentation
[09:18] <mdke> they aren't that organised, unfortunately
[09:18] <mdke> the tasks I mean.
[09:19] <mdke> have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations for translation info
[09:19]  * mdke -> shower
[10:35] <SpacePigeon> mdke, Because you are still here, I notify you that I was working on this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SuspendHowtoNew
[18:19] <SpacePigeon> mdke, hi again
[18:19] <Zachk18> hello SpacePigeon
[18:21] <SpacePigeon> hi Zachk18
[18:21] <SpacePigeon> yeah, I submitted some documentation draft yesterday, do you want to check it?
[18:21] <Zachk18> ah sure...are you on a doc team?
[18:21] <SpacePigeon> http://help.ubuntu.com/community/SuspendHowtoNew
[18:21] <SpacePigeon> not yet
[18:22] <SpacePigeon> I am volunteering
[18:22] <Zachk18> are you on any teams?
[18:22] <missaugustina> SpacePigeon: send an email to the ubuntu-doc mailing list please.
[18:22] <SpacePigeon> oh ok
[18:22] <SpacePigeon> thats how it works, nice
[18:22] <missaugustina> SpacePigeon: Anytime you want to work on something, send an email to the list to let people know.
[18:22] <SpacePigeon> Oh I sent one? Maybe the system did
[18:23] <missaugustina> SpacePigeon: Someone else might already be working on it.
[18:23] <Zachk18> SpacePigeon, i'll still review it for you. and i'll let you know..
[18:23] <SpacePigeon> missaugustina, yeah, I went into the launchpad tasklist and assigned myself to the bug (is that the correct thing to do?) and then that sent an email to the list
[18:23] <missaugustina> SpacePigeon: I didn't see an email from you but I will check again.
[18:23] <SpacePigeon> yeah, i'm wolter
[18:23] <missaugustina> SpacePigeon: Check with the list before assigning yourself a bug.
[18:24] <Wolter> missaugustina, will do
[18:25] <missaugustina> Wolter: the only  reason I say that is because I've done that before, assigned myself a bug only to find out that there are other folks working on something related to what I wanted to work on.
[18:25] <Wolter> Yes, I perfectly understand :)
[18:27] <missaugustina> This is the wiki page for the Docteam - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/
[18:27] <missaugustina> This is the info on the mailing list - https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc
[18:27] <Wolter> missaugustina, thanks
[18:28] <missaugustina> Wolter: np :)
[18:28] <missaugustina> The wiki is  especially challenging because several people could be working on one thing and not know it.
[18:28] <missaugustina> We use the list as the main point of communication to avoid situations like that.
[18:29] <Wolter> Oh oops yeah I joined the team yesterday at launchpad
[18:29] <Wolter> good to know
[18:29] <missaugustina> Yeah lots of areas, it can be confusing to keep track of ;)
[18:30] <missaugustina> I filter my emails so anything to the ubuntu-doc list is labeled one way and launchpad bugs are labeled somewhere else.
[18:30] <missaugustina> Sometimes LP bugs can be high traffic especially this close to a release, so people might miss if you are assigning yourself a bug.
[18:35] <missaugustina> Wolter: what is the bug that you assigned yourself?
[18:36] <Wolter> missaugustina, a bug about SuspendHowto being a deprecated document
[18:36] <missaugustina> Is there a bug id#?
[18:36] <missaugustina> This was in Launchpad, right?
[18:37] <missaugustina> I was looking for the notification in my email, but can't find anything.
[18:49] <missaugustina> Wolter: Thanks for helping out! Just be sure to email the list and let folks know about your submission :)
[18:49] <Wolter> missaugustina, yeah I just did
[18:49] <Wolter> haha
[19:52] <Zachk18> shaunm, Gwaihir hello
[19:53] <Gwaihir> hi
[19:54] <Zachk18> so...welcome if it's your first
[20:01] <Wolter> hey Zachk18, how are you doing?
[20:02] <Zachk18> Wolter, hey
[20:02] <Zachk18> Wolter, anything you need?
[20:03] <Wolter> Zachk18, just wondering if you saw my draft yesterday
[20:03] <Wolter> I understand if you have no time for it, I already linked it in the mailing list
[21:52] <Simone1> Ciao volevo sapere se c'è Alessio Treglia in questa chat avrei bisogno di parlargli in pvt
[22:24] <Zachk18> shaunm, welcome