[00:00] "Changing the boot menu timeout" and "Changing the default operating system to boot" [00:01] Aye, Easy to change boot timeout and moving the default up or down. [00:02] I havent fiddled with grub2 to write that documentation for grub2 [00:02] I wonder if we might need a string freeze exception to get that stuff in there [00:02] unless we can cram it in before the freeze [00:02] The freeze is on the 1st right? [00:02] yeah [00:03] If you can get or find me a landing page for Grub2 I can pull up the work and have it done before the 1st [00:03] here's the bug i filed - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bug/437446 [00:03] Launchpad bug 437446 in ubuntu-docs "Need documentation on Grub2" [Undecided,New] [00:03] there is a link to the Grub2 page on the team wiki [00:04] afaik, that is the only ubuntu documentation on grub2 right now [00:04] Yeah I see it. hmmm [00:05] They already have the Timeout added on the "Errors" sub-menu, pretty self-explanitory. They do not however have Error 15 [00:06] I don't think we document troubleshooting grub errors in the system documentation [00:06] there is also stuff about grub in the serverguide which needs to be added to. [01:24] mdke, I thought you were going to change the title back to my version on the firewall document - "Firewall and network monitoring" [01:24] not a big deal either way [01:55] Hey Rocket. I appreciate you guys letting me in the team but I will have to move on as this appears to not be my field of work anymore. [02:09] XDevHald, sorry to hear that. Why do you feel that way? [02:09] I have tried to gather my work, and of course having a 1 year old boy and married it is very difficult to even think. [02:11] XDevHald, if you can't get the grub2 documentation, that's ok [02:11] we don't normally work in a time crunch like this [02:12] There is other documentation type work you can do if you want [02:12] Yeah, I know which is why I found it weird for a gathered doc before freeze. [02:12] don't worry about that then [02:13] you can still make changes after string freeze, they just won't go into Karmic, they will go into Lucid [02:13] Sounds great Rocket. I haven't touched the wiki in 3 years, I'll need a little help (coding I am a guru at) but just guidance on what to do and what is need and where to go from there. [02:13] you can also do wiki work if you want [02:13] I'll stick with the wiki work. [02:13] Sys I'll leave for you guys. [02:13] sure, that's actually where I do most of my work [02:14] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Wiki [02:15] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Tag [02:15] we use tags these days to mark pages that need work [02:16] Excellent. Now how do I know what needs work and etc. Just need a starting point and I can go from there. [02:18] each tag section has a link - "List of pages with this tag. " [05:53] Hi, I have to write a short-ish manual for a technical writing class and i was wondering if anyone has an idea. I'm relatively good at this. I could write a manual on packaging, but the updates needed to the packing guide aren't enough to get a good grade in the class. I also thought about kernel compiling, which needs a better manual badly, but I think it would be too complicated for the teacher. [07:20] hi guys [07:23] im a newbie to linux i just wanted to know tht how can i edit my shell? [08:42] morning all [08:44] korin43: we have a list of current tasks here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/SystemDocumentation/Tasks - if anything takes your fancy, then feel free to contact the mailing list. Some people might already be working on particular items so it's good to contact the list first [08:57] Hi [08:57] I am willing to join the documentation team. [09:00] Is there any project I can start helping on? [09:05] SpacePigeon: yes, there is always plenty to do. You should find information about tasks and how to contribute on the pages beginning at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam [09:05] SpacePigeon: but feel free to ask any questions if you have any, either here or on the mailing list [09:05] Ok [09:05] I am browsing a Taks wiki page under the DocumentationTeam link, thanks for pointing me to the right direction [09:07] mdke, so, I went into a launchpad bug page. Should I start working on only the "New" items? [09:07] or on the confirmed? [09:09] SpacePigeon: either is fine, as long as no one else is working on them [09:10] mdke, nice. Ill start right off.. [09:11] SpacePigeon: awesome! [09:12] mdke, is there some way I can filter english and spanish bugs only? [09:13] SpacePigeon: all bugs should be in English. If they aren't then we usually close them because we can't understand them as a team [09:13] SpacePigeon: the exception to that is bugs in translations which might be in the applicable language [09:13] oh ok... so all tasks for DocumentationTeam are in english... [09:15] yep [09:16] we also have a lot of translation if you are interested in that; that is managed by the Ubuntu translation teams [09:16] they translate Ubuntu software *and* documentation [09:17] Yeah I might join one of those [09:17] Tasks don't seem very well organized in the launchpad buglist [09:17] Yeah I think I might as well start translating documentation [09:18] they aren't that organised, unfortunately [09:18] the tasks I mean. [09:19] have a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations for translation info [09:19] * mdke -> shower [10:35] mdke, Because you are still here, I notify you that I was working on this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SuspendHowtoNew === nixternal_ is now known as nixternal === starcraftman is now known as star-devil === star-devil is now known as starcraftman [18:19] mdke, hi again [18:19] hello SpacePigeon [18:21] hi Zachk18 [18:21] yeah, I submitted some documentation draft yesterday, do you want to check it? [18:21] ah sure...are you on a doc team? [18:21] http://help.ubuntu.com/community/SuspendHowtoNew [18:21] not yet [18:22] I am volunteering [18:22] are you on any teams? [18:22] SpacePigeon: send an email to the ubuntu-doc mailing list please. [18:22] oh ok [18:22] thats how it works, nice [18:22] SpacePigeon: Anytime you want to work on something, send an email to the list to let people know. [18:22] Oh I sent one? Maybe the system did [18:23] SpacePigeon: Someone else might already be working on it. [18:23] SpacePigeon, i'll still review it for you. and i'll let you know.. [18:23] missaugustina, yeah, I went into the launchpad tasklist and assigned myself to the bug (is that the correct thing to do?) and then that sent an email to the list [18:23] SpacePigeon: I didn't see an email from you but I will check again. [18:23] yeah, i'm wolter === SpacePigeon is now known as Wolter [18:23] SpacePigeon: Check with the list before assigning yourself a bug. [18:24] missaugustina, will do [18:25] Wolter: the only reason I say that is because I've done that before, assigned myself a bug only to find out that there are other folks working on something related to what I wanted to work on. [18:25] Yes, I perfectly understand :) === Zachk18 is now known as Zach === Zach is now known as Zachk18 [18:27] This is the wiki page for the Docteam - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/ [18:27] This is the info on the mailing list - https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc [18:27] missaugustina, thanks [18:28] Wolter: np :) [18:28] The wiki is especially challenging because several people could be working on one thing and not know it. [18:28] We use the list as the main point of communication to avoid situations like that. [18:29] Oh oops yeah I joined the team yesterday at launchpad [18:29] good to know [18:29] Yeah lots of areas, it can be confusing to keep track of ;) [18:30] I filter my emails so anything to the ubuntu-doc list is labeled one way and launchpad bugs are labeled somewhere else. [18:30] Sometimes LP bugs can be high traffic especially this close to a release, so people might miss if you are assigning yourself a bug. [18:35] Wolter: what is the bug that you assigned yourself? [18:36] missaugustina, a bug about SuspendHowto being a deprecated document [18:36] Is there a bug id#? [18:36] This was in Launchpad, right? [18:37] I was looking for the notification in my email, but can't find anything. [18:49] Wolter: Thanks for helping out! Just be sure to email the list and let folks know about your submission :) [18:49] missaugustina, yeah I just did [18:49] haha [19:52] shaunm, Gwaihir hello [19:53] hi [19:54] so...welcome if it's your first [20:01] hey Zachk18, how are you doing? [20:02] Wolter, hey [20:02] Wolter, anything you need? [20:03] Zachk18, just wondering if you saw my draft yesterday [20:03] I understand if you have no time for it, I already linked it in the mailing list [21:52] Ciao volevo sapere se c'รจ Alessio Treglia in questa chat avrei bisogno di parlargli in pvt [22:24] shaunm, welcome === shaunm_ is now known as shaunm === ShadowChild is now known as lukjad007