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mac_vlool: hi... figured out the problems of the greyscale icons showing up in the apps... now there is no problem of that... kwwii  has decided that the UNR needs a lighter version of the panel icons , so now we will be making a separate version of the panel icons for UNR , which is more brighter. :)07:39
loolmac_v: :-(07:45
loolNew stuff == greater pain07:45
loolmac_v: So where's that documented?07:46
loolmac_v: Is that in email/bug somewhere?07:46
mac_vlool: its not a problem... since either way , you guys were planning on removing the panel icons in UNR while UBUNTU has decided to use the icons , so you would need a separate theme for UNR named Humanity-Dark or likewise... instead of just removing the icons for UNR , we are making it better visible07:49
mac_vit would look more consistent than using the gnome fallbacks07:50
loolUNR and Ubuntu are based on the same packages; it's not like we consider ourselves separate project07:51
loolBut the problem here is with doing changes at this stage07:51
mac_vlool: i understand , the Humanity-Dark will just be a theme with 100kb07:51
loolBeta is on Thursday, but the images we build tonight are already being tested heavily07:52
loolIt's not the size07:52
StevenKWe're already after UI freeze, documentation starts to get worked on at this point, etc, etc07:52
mac_vStevenK: i agree , but no one got things going until it was very late :(07:54
mac_vthere is not much change in the theme , *only* the panel icons will become brighter from what they are used atm in UNR07:55
loolmac_v: So where are these icons?07:55
loolLet's not look for blame07:56
loolSituation is that we have this mix of icons, we're the week of beta, and I need a final plan agreed upon07:56
mac_voh... i'm not blaming anyone... if the icons are removed , that would need more change in documentation07:56
mac_vlool: Daniel hasnt branched this out yet, i'm now converting the icons to a more brighter color , it will be available in a few hrs07:57
loolmac_v: Could you have them in the same humanity tree?07:57
loolmac_v: Ideally, I'd prefer introducing only a new binary package; that is, I'd prefer if I'd get a single tarball with both the current humanity tree, and a side tree for the dark version of the icons07:58
mac_vyou mean , can they be placed in the humanity theme itself...? not without code change07:58
mac_vthis is the easiest07:58
loolmac_v: For instance you could mkdir Humanity, bzr mv * Humanity, mkdir Humanity-dark and add only the changed icons to the dark tree07:58
loolAnd we would have an index.theme in Humanity-dark which inherits humanity07:59
mac_vyup07:59
* Debolaz wish moblin supported 3g modems.07:59
mac_vlool: that is how we have planned , the panel icon theme will inherit the humanity main theme07:59
loolmac_v: Could you start preparing that so that I can prepare the packaging on my end and we can ship in a relatively little amount of time if that's the way we go?08:07
mac_vlool: sure, i'm correcting the icons as we speak... will have the icons ready in a few hrs... could you just confirm me one thing? the color of the font used in the calender08:08
mac_vthe date on the panel*08:08
loolI have no idea08:11
loolmac_v: we're using the "Dust" Gtk+ theme if that's of any help08:12
mac_vok , no probs, i'll check it out :)08:12
mac_vlool: just to mention.. pls dont package anything from lp:humanity now... this icons have been modified for Ubuntu and will be dark... 08:17
mac_vs/this/the08:17
loolmac_v: Well perhaps I should if we want them in Ubuntu08:19
loolmac_v: You know I'm developing Ubuntu at the same time as UNR; the two projects are built on the same bits08:20
loolExcept I get to focus on UNR matters08:20
mac_vlool: oh , ok.. thats fine... i meant for UNR use08:20
mac_v:)08:20
loolSo whenever something impacts both (as is now the case with this theme) it needs coordination08:20
loolSo you should rather tell me that the current humanity branch has the planned changes for the desktop but not the required changes to use it in UNR (separate panel icons)   :)08:21
mac_vhehe ;)08:21
mac_vlool:  when will you be packaging them? 08:21
mac_vi just have 1 more minor change to do and they are good to go , will be pushing in a bit08:22
loolmac_v: I don't know; it's high on my urgent list, but consider that it's the week of beta and that I also need to care for armel stuff (Dove and iMX51 images notably) and moblin remix and that this is not the sole UNR issue08:30
loolSo the sooner it's available, the more likely I can do something with it08:30
mac_vlool: rev 346 is good to go for Ubuntu... :)08:53
* mac_v will be finishing the UNR icons soon08:54
loolmac_v: But I can't upload it until it's good to go for UNR because we're using the same package08:54
loolbzr: ERROR: Not a branch: "bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~elementaryicons/humanity/Humanity/".08:55
loolDid you move your trunk?08:55
mac_vlool: its elementrayart now08:55
mac_vlool: someone has moved it :/08:55
loolmac_v: That sucks; consider using something like "trunk" or something08:56
mac_v new theme name i'll confirm with kwwii , which name he wants used08:57
mac_voh the branch name i'm not sure who changed it :(08:58
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loolpaulliu: Hey, how goes with UMR these days?11:48
loolpaulliu: Do you plan any other uploads to karmic before beta?11:48
paulliulool: yes. When is the beta?11:51
paulliulool: sorry I went to Taipei office today.11:52
loolpaulliu: beta is thursday11:52
loolpaulliu: np11:52
paulliulool: OK. Will do all the upload before wednesday.11:52
loolpaulliu: Well just let me know if there are any11:59
loolpaulliu: We're building the image on Tuesday and Wednesday, hopefully not later11:59
loolpaulliu: only critical bug fixes should go in11:59
mac_vlool: both Humanity and Humanity-Dark are done... :)  just waiting for kwwii, he has gone out and will be back soon12:24
paulliulool: OK. Do you satisfy with the current image?12:49
paulliulool: I'm just thinking to bump the version of nbtk.12:49
loolpaulliu: I didn't try today, the biggest issues are probably the preferences file and the login to GNOME issue12:51
loolStevenK: Do we have a bug for that one?12:51
loolpaulliu: If you feel that's needed, go ahead!12:51
paulliulool: ok. thank you.12:51
mterrylool: the login to GNOME issue?  bug 420047.  I was about to look at it13:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 420047 in ubuntu-moblin-remix "Logs into GNOME instead of Moblin by default" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/42004713:03
loolmterry: Cool thanks13:05
loolmterry: So you're doing moblin bits?13:05
mterrylool: yeah this week13:05
loolOh ok13:08
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mterrylool, paulliu: For moblin-ubuntu-remix bugs, are we following distro policy of 'fix released' when uploaded to ppa?13:40
loolYes13:40
mterrylool: my myzone page is just a big white blank.  is this a known bug?13:45
loolmterry: More or less13:45
* mterry thinks, "i should probably search before asking"13:45
loolmterry: I think omer filed it, not sure, but things are generally quite in flux with the move to 2.113:46
mterrylool: ah sure13:46
paulliumterry: I'm going to fix that blank bug. wait for a while. I'll take anerley, nbtk, mutter-moblin, moblin-panel-* updates first.14:02
mterrypaulliu: ok, cool.14:03
mterrypaulliu: what package is setting my moblin image's default gnome background to toys.png?  I can't find it...  Thought you might know, if you ported that bit18:33
paulliumterry: mutter-moblin18:34
paulliumterry: Wait for a while. It's still waiting for build with PPA.18:35
paulliumterry: I've just uploaded it.18:35
mterrypaulliu: mutter-moblin sets that once you're in.  but something is setting the system gconf default as well -- it shows up as the background for gdm for example18:36
paulliumterry: sorry. I don't rememer.18:40
rtgGrueMaster, I'm pretty sure I moderated an email from you last week about tty LSB compliance failures, but I'm danged if I can find it.18:49
GrueMasterYes, I had sent a patch to Pete Graner, which he forwarded on.18:50
rtgGrueMaster, did you create an LP report for it? I can't find anything you're subscribed to that references LSB or tty.18:51
GrueMasterI think you were asking me what bug this goes against.  I haven't reported it yet, but it was a bug in the kernel created by Alan Cox.18:52
GrueMasterIt isn't in LP.18:52
GrueMasterI can file a bug, but it will take a bit.  I'm in the middle of another task atm.18:52
rtgGrueMaster, given that the kernel is in beat freeze I'll need an LP against which to reference the changes.18:53
rtgbeta*18:53
GrueMasterok.18:53
rtgciao18:53
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