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| abarbaccia1 | hey all - does the diskless server work in mythbuntu control centre? | 00:22 |
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| Eagle_Boy | I just installed Mythbuntu 9.04 and when I go to the video manager the "Enter IMDB #" window is always showing. | 02:03 |
| Eagle_Boy | is anyone else having this issue? | 02:03 |
| rhpot1991 | Eagle_Boy: known issue, if you search around there is a bug on LP about it | 03:04 |
| oobe | tgm4883, look at this http://insidiousramblings.com/blog/?p=40 | 06:19 |
| tgm4883 | oobe, hmm | 06:30 |
| tgm4883 | interesting | 06:30 |
| tgm4883 | I think i like the 0.22 mythbuntu theme better though | 06:30 |
| oobe | did u install it | 06:32 |
| oobe | i didnt know there was a 9.10 .22 theme | 06:32 |
| tgm4883 | oobe, this is a little outdated, as the theme team has done a lot of work daily, but here http://bpcs.net/gallery/1-mythtv-mythbuntu-theme/detail/48-mythbuntutheme001.html?tmpl=component | 06:33 |
| tgm4883 | and they do *a lot* of work tweaking the theme so it looks just right | 06:34 |
| tgm4883 | I didn't install hacky mess, just looked at the screenshots | 06:34 |
| oobe | that theme looks nice | 06:35 |
| tgm4883 | oobe, thank gbutters | 06:35 |
| oobe | good to see mythbuntu has its own theme now as apose to putting the logo ontop of Mepo or others. | 06:36 |
| hot_wheelz | are there any good dual usb tuners with a single RF input that work OTB? in 9.04 | 10:41 |
| directhex | the problem word there is "good" | 10:46 |
| hot_wheelz | directhex can u give a twin that works otb then forget "good" | 10:59 |
| someone who can help me thrue the configuration for an tv out geforce card ? | 12:37 | |
| the thing is that i dont know how to change the output to B-pal | 12:37 | |
| hipitihop | I'm trying to upgrade my lirc to 0.8.6 to get my imon remote going and apt-get upgrade complains about keeping back lirc, any tips ? | 12:37 |
| hipitihop | Anyone have instructions on how to upgrade from the default mythbuntu 9.04 lirc to lirc 0.8.6 ? | 12:41 |
| someone who can help me thrue the configuration for an tv out geforce card ? | 12:44 | |
| the thing is that i dont know how to change the output to B-pal | 12:44 | |
| hipitihop | google: I'm a total mythbuntu noob, still trying to setup my shiny new htpc, but I thought B-Pal was one of the options in the mythbuntu control center | 12:50 |
| === tgm4883` is now known as tgm4883 | ||
| shashwatpns | myth tv is not starting !!!! | 14:26 |
| shashwatpns | help ! | 14:27 |
| apt-get | the more exclamation marks you use, the slower the help comes in my experience | 14:33 |
| === apt-get is now known as darthanubis | ||
| rhpot1991 | shashwatpns: you should prob provide more information as well | 14:45 |
| * mishehu yawns. | 20:12 | |
| mishehu | slow day today | 20:12 |
| orificium | is the weekly builds site down? | 20:15 |
| tgm4883 | orificium, the US one is | 20:15 |
| tgm4883 | we are looking into it | 20:15 |
| tgm4883 | you can use the PPA or UK one right now | 20:16 |
| tgm4883 | nice | 20:16 |
| tgm4883 | <shashwatpns> 06:26:42> -myth tv is not starting !!!! | 20:16 |
| tgm4883 | so start it? | 20:16 |
| tgm4883 | booya, case closed | 20:17 |
| mishehu | so I'm about to find out how painful it is to attempt to get my hauppage hvr 2250 to work with 9.04... | 20:17 |
| * tgm4883 shrugs | 20:17 | |
| orificium | hah, just saw the philly oct 3rd thing on the site. I live in Philly. Hm :) | 20:17 |
| mishehu | as soon as mythsetup launches of course :-) | 20:17 |
| orificium | Anyone gonna be there that can troubleshoot HD video on a 8300 seriesi chipset mobo? :) | 20:18 |
| tgm4883 | well I live in oregon | 20:18 |
| tgm4883 | so not me | 20:18 |
| tgm4883 | but there are going to be some people there that should be able to troubleshoot some stuff | 20:18 |
| mishehu | "8300 series chipset mobo" is still rather vague. | 20:19 |
| rhpot1991 | orificium: you mean VDPAU? | 20:19 |
| orificium | I'm betting an onboard 8300 series nvidia gpu isn't gonan hack it. | 20:19 |
| orificium | yeah using VDPAU | 20:19 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991 might be going | 20:19 |
| rhpot1991 | ya I'm planning on being there | 20:19 |
| tgm4883 | I dont' think the 8300 supports VDPAU | 20:19 |
| tgm4883 | sec | 20:19 |
| rhpot1991 | GeForce 8300 | 20:20 |
| rhpot1991 | its on the list | 20:20 |
| tgm4883 | ok | 20:20 |
| rhpot1991 | gonna have to use a weak deinterlacer prob | 20:20 |
| orificium | Well I don't relly know what it is. I think its either an 8300 or 8400. It's a nVidia nForce 750a | 20:20 |
| orificium | I have deinterlacing off. | 20:20 |
| orificium | was watching Fringe the other week | 20:21 |
| orificium | and it was almost bearable, but vrey jittery | 20:21 |
| mishehu | oooh lovely! mythsetup froze on load while doing a fresh install! | 20:21 |
| tgm4883 | thats no deal | 20:21 |
| orificium | Someone mentioned FOX doesn't deinterlace | 20:21 |
| orificium | er | 20:21 |
| orificium | use interlaced | 20:21 |
| rhpot1991 | I use deinterlacers for everything | 20:22 |
| orificium | IF I had VDPAU turned on, and its playing the video, does that mean VDPAU is supported? | 20:22 |
| rhpot1991 | orificium: I think there is some command line tool you can run to see | 20:22 |
| rhpot1991 | orificium: are you running karmic on it? | 20:22 |
| orificium | Running 9.04 + weekly builds | 20:22 |
| orificium | trunk | 20:22 |
| orificium | But I haven't updated in over a week probably | 20:23 |
| tgm4883 | Penth, whats happening? | 20:23 |
| orificium | It's givign me a can't connect to weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org:80 now | 20:23 |
| rhpot1991 | orificium: ya they are down currently, tgm4883 is on it | 20:23 |
| tgm4883 | orificium, did you switch repos? | 20:23 |
| orificium | nah, not yet. | 20:24 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991, yea, like I have control over that | 20:24 |
| * tgm4883 pokes Daviey | 20:24 | |
| Penth | Not much yet -- just doing research to turn an old HP flattop into a Mythbuntu box. Trying to find a popularity list for DVB-T and analog-out cards | 20:25 |
| tgm4883 | Penth, you going to the install fest on the 3rd? | 20:25 |
| Penth | Instellfest? When and where? | 20:26 |
| rhpot1991 | Philly, oct 3rd | 20:26 |
| orificium | what's the difference between PPA and US/UK? | 20:26 |
| tgm4883 | Penth, sorry, I assumed thats what brought you here | 20:26 |
| Penth | No, but great to know. Is it on phillylinux.org? | 20:27 |
| Penth | (nm, found on google | 20:27 |
| rhpot1991 | Penth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 | 20:28 |
| tgm4883 | in fact | 20:29 |
| tgm4883 | @learn PhillyMythJam - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 | 20:29 |
| tgm4883 | hmm | 20:29 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991, where is Zinn? | 20:29 |
| rhpot1991 | good question | 20:29 |
| tgm4883 | I'll assume he didn't rejoin after your server went down last night | 20:30 |
| rhpot1991 | I think there might have been a hiccup somewhere over the weekend, my bip disconnected or something | 20:30 |
| tgm4883 | yea last night | 20:30 |
| rhpot1991 | he should automagically rejoin though | 20:30 |
| tgm4883 | strange | 20:30 |
| rhpot1991 | might be more from kicks than server disconnects | 20:30 |
| Penth | Perfetto! I just saw Lyz on Tuesday; I should have mentioned I wsa planning a Myth box | 20:31 |
| rhpot1991 | !status | 20:31 |
| Zinn | I am alive. | 20:31 |
| tgm4883 | @learn PhillyMythJam - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 | 20:31 |
| Zinn | I just learned: PhillyMythJam - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 | 20:31 |
| tgm4883 | there we go | 20:32 |
| tgm4883 | !Phi% | rhpot1991 | 20:32 |
| Zinn | rhpot1991: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 | 20:32 |
| orificium | rhpot1991: remember what that command line utility is? | 20:32 |
| tgm4883 | @learn PhillyMythJam - Join the Ubuntu PA LoCo team on Oct 3rd for a Mythbuntu Mythbuntu Jam. Details at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 | 20:32 |
| rhpot1991 | orificium: not really, I'd have to search, plus my VDPAU box is turned off till I get home from work | 20:32 |
| Zinn | I just learned: PhillyMythJam - Join the Ubuntu PA LoCo team on Oct 3rd for a Mythbuntu Mythbuntu Jam. Details at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 | 20:32 |
| orificium | rhpot1991: I'm pretty sure my cpu usage goes way down when using VDPAU. But unfortunately when the camera is panning or there is movement, there is alot of jitter | 20:33 |
| rhpot1991 | orificium: try turnning on a lower deinterlacer, like bob? | 20:33 |
| orificium | rhpot1991: I wasn't using any deinterlacing at the timne. But I can try playing wtih the settings some more. | 20:34 |
| rhpot1991 | I'd do that | 20:34 |
| rhpot1991 | what nvidia version are you running? | 20:34 |
| rhpot1991 | I thought VDPAU wasn't supported till karmic, unless you used a 3rd party repo for the nvidia drivers | 20:34 |
| orificium | 180.44 | 20:34 |
| orificium | That's the other thing I meant to try. the latest beta drivers. | 20:35 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991, it's supported in 0.22 | 20:35 |
| rhpot1991 | I think thats good, I've read 185.xx makes it even better | 20:35 |
| rhpot1991 | tgm4883: ya, but I thought there was an nvidia driver dependency as well | 20:35 |
| tgm4883 | IIRC, just 180+ | 20:36 |
| orificium | I think I had issues with my monitor using 185 and taht's why I stuck with 180 | 20:36 |
| tgm4883 | orificium, ok, the us repo should be working now | 20:36 |
| tgm4883 | kinda | 20:36 |
| orificium | retarded scaling issues | 20:36 |
| orificium | tgm4883: hah, I just did dpkg-reconfigure on mythbunturepos and set it to PPA:) | 20:36 |
| orificium | shuold I stick with US instead? | 20:36 |
| tgm4883 | no that should be fine | 20:36 |
| orificium | What is PPA? | 20:37 |
| tgm4883 | either is fine | 20:37 |
| orificium | can someone exlpain that :) | 20:37 |
| tgm4883 | PPA is where the packages are built for us. it's a Personal Package Archive that canonical provides | 20:37 |
| tgm4883 | It's available to all launchpad users | 20:37 |
| orificium | one of these days I need to look aruond on launchpad and try to understand how to navgiate it. It seems very overwhelming | 20:38 |
| rhpot1991 | mishehu: let us know how that hvr2250 works out, sounds like a good card | 20:38 |
| orificium | NVIDIA X Server Settings shows my GRaphics Processor as "nForce 750a SLI". I think this is the only integrated GPU that was like this. | 20:39 |
| orificium_ | I could try adding this TripleBuffer option to xorg | 20:47 |
| orificium_ | and the no-composite | 20:47 |
| orificium_ | Can someone describe "tearing"? | 20:47 |
| orificium_ | I see that lot, but I'm not sure what it looks like | 20:47 |
| mishehu | rhpot1991: if I could even get the damn machine to show me something other than kludge when X is launched, I would :-) | 20:49 |
| Zinn | mishehu: Please watch your language. | 20:49 |
| mishehu | zinn a bot? | 20:49 |
| orificium_ | Yeah, apparently d*mn is too far :) | 20:49 |
| mishehu | d*mn, I can't fscking swear here *grin* (don't kick me bot, I say I say it's a joke, son) | 20:50 |
| mishehu | anyway I bet that I'm having typical fglrx woes. | 20:50 |
| * mishehu frowns. | 20:50 | |
| orificium_ | Is 22080 latest trunk revision? | 20:52 |
| orificium_ | well, in the weeklybuilds I guess | 20:53 |
| mishehu | what's the name of the amd video drivers when using apt-get? | 20:55 |
| mishehu | it's not sticking out at me in the list of packages. | 20:55 |
| mishehu | I wanted to try updating it to see if I can magically get video again when in X. | 20:55 |
| orificium_ | xserver-xorg-video-amd ? | 20:56 |
| mishehu | orificium_: thought it was named something else because I'm guessing it's the fglrx closed-source drivers... I'll look down there and see if it's under xserver-xorg-video | 20:57 |
| orificium_ | I think there is a xerver-xorg-video-radeon too | 20:57 |
| orificium_ | I don't know much about using ATI/AMD in linux. Don't want to mislead you :) | 20:58 |
| orificium_ | oh I see a fglrx-amdcccle too | 20:58 |
| orificium_ | IS it a r5xx,r6xx or r7xx? | 20:58 |
| mishehu | sec | 20:59 |
| mishehu | it's one of the onboards | 20:59 |
| mishehu | 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series] | 21:00 |
| quentusrex | Alright, I'm having a few issues... How do I record a show that goes over its timeslot? | 21:01 |
| mishehu | quentusrex: you following me here too?? | 21:02 |
| orificium_ | http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.4.3.3.3.1&lang=English | 21:02 |
| mishehu | between you and that Essobi character... | 21:02 |
| tgm4883 | quentusrex, tell it to download longer in the schedule? | 21:02 |
| orificium_ | mishehu: you can download latest driver from there | 21:02 |
| quentusrex | also, how do I clear the tv listings from the database? | 21:03 |
| mishehu | orificium_: yeah, was trying to use whatever mythtbuntu has, so as to not mess up with the package management. at least back in 8.04 there was a specific package for that. | 21:03 |
| quentusrex | I changed the channel line up at schedules direct | 21:03 |
| mishehu | quentusrex: DROP DATABASE ;-) | 21:03 |
| quentusrex | :( | 21:03 |
| tgm4883 | mishehu, dont tell people to do bad things | 21:03 |
| tgm4883 | I'd hate to ban you | 21:03 |
| quentusrex | lol | 21:03 |
| mishehu | tgm4883: it's ok, quentusrex knows me | 21:03 |
| tgm4883 | well that isn't entirely true | 21:04 |
| quentusrex | I know mishehu from another channel | 21:04 |
| mishehu | quentusrex: liar, you know me in person too | 21:04 |
| tgm4883 | I haven't banned anyone in awhile, i'm getting an itchy trigger finger | 21:04 |
| mishehu | and so does that Essobi character. | 21:04 |
| mishehu | tgm4883: if you like, I can have another client connect in, then have it say some naughty words and you can ban it... | 21:04 |
| * mishehu grins. | 21:04 | |
| quentusrex | lol | 21:05 |
| mishehu | just trying to help out with those itchy fingers! | 21:05 |
| rhpot1991 | still gotta be careful, this channel is logged and someone might read it for help later | 21:05 |
| mishehu | rhpot1991: I'll put the </just kidding> tags next time | 21:06 |
| mishehu | that way anbody looking at a log will see it's not serious. | 21:06 |
| mishehu | anyway, that IS what I have done in the past when the database got all screwed up... | 21:06 |
| orificium_ | quentusrex: I usuaslly configure mythtv to record an extra 30 seconds befiore and after a show | 21:07 |
| mishehu | but it was REALLY screwed up, and that was back prior to 0.18 even | 21:07 |
| orificium_ | quentusrex: in case it goes on early/late | 21:07 |
| rhpot1991 | issue there is you overlap tuners | 21:07 |
| rhpot1991 | I normally record some things, and if something always goes early/late, I adjust | 21:08 |
| rhpot1991 | I do have one issue now though, community records for a few secods in the end of the office, and then when I cut to the next recording I miss a few seconds | 21:08 |
| orificium_ | rhpot1991: I know I had issues with it in the past, but I'm onl yusing 1 tuner so far haven't seen any problems | 21:08 |
| * orificium_ lost my pwoer adapter for my hdhomerun :( | 21:09 | |
| quentusrex | orificium_: the game I was trying to record went 15 minutes late... | 21:09 |
| orificium_ | quentusrex: oh yeah, sports games are probably gonna be an issue | 21:09 |
| * Penth is thinking about ust using an HDHomeRun and http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0291885 to set up the living room Myth box. Opinions? | 21:09 | |
| orificium_ | quentusrex: might want to just schedule recording wahtever is after it | 21:09 |
| mishehu | quentusrex: you know, I've always toyed around with the idea of somehow doing some sort of functions for mythtv in freeswitch | 21:10 |
| rhpot1991 | orificium_: careful what you plug into that | 21:10 |
| orificium_ | Penth: I love the hdhomerun. Except that I had issues with the backend starting before the network did. and therefore hdhomerun wouldn't connect so I had to restart backend if I ever restarted my box. | 21:10 |
| rhpot1991 | someone else around here plugged something else in that fit it, and fried the board on it | 21:10 |
| rhpot1991 | Penth: HDHR is highly recommended around here | 21:11 |
| orificium_ | rhpot1991: I haven't tried to plug anything into. I always check voltage and milliamps. I'm gonan order one from silocondust for like $15 | 21:11 |
| rhpot1991 | for a video card I would only get something that does VDPAU anymore: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU | 21:11 |
| rhpot1991 | orificium_: ya just saying to be careful, its a $80 mistake otherwise | 21:11 |
| mishehu | quentusrex: but I could never think of WHAT to integrate. | 21:11 |
| orificium_ | You noly paid $80 for yours? :) | 21:11 |
| orificium_ | *only | 21:11 |
| orificium_ | or were those the repair costs | 21:12 |
| rhpot1991 | orificium_: no, thats the repair cost for them | 21:12 |
| orificium_ | Oh yeah, anyone looking to purchase the hdhomerun, and you acn wait. there are usualyl deals that pop up every so often. | 21:12 |
| rhpot1991 | ~150 is the going rate, which is good | 21:13 |
| orificium_ | I think snagged mine from newegg for 130 | 21:13 |
| orificium_ | Oh and black friday is coming up :) | 21:14 |
| Penth | well, seems the easiest thing to test, and the box itself is just going to be an old P4 (http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Home.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=316713&lang=en&cc=us) and hooking it up via s-video to a 24" analog screen | 21:14 |
| rhpot1991 | not sure thats a black friday deal | 21:15 |
| rhpot1991 | seems to specific | 21:15 |
| Penth | MicroCenter has the Homerun for 140 | 21:15 |
| rhpot1991 | Penth: do you need a HD tuner then? | 21:15 |
| rhpot1991 | if its an analog display? | 21:15 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991, cough, digital tuner cough | 21:17 |
| Penth | Mostly looking for a good DVB-T Tuner, but if I'm going to record Dollhouse it's worth an extra $20-30 for me to go HD | 21:17 |
| orificium_ | Penth: What country are you in? | 21:18 |
| Penth | US; Philly to be exact | 21:18 |
| rhpot1991 | isnt' dvb-t a europe thing? | 21:18 |
| orificium_ | Penth: oh that's exactly where I'm at. Old City. | 21:18 |
| orificium_ | Yeah, was gonan say | 21:18 |
| orificium_ | DVB-T is terrestial in other countries | 21:19 |
| orificium_ | Penth: You would use either QAM or NTSC or ATSC | 21:19 |
| orificium_ | Penth: I take the local HD stations right off the Comcast cable lines (thanks FCC) using a QAM tuner | 21:19 |
| rhpot1991 | I think you want qam or atsc | 21:20 |
| orificium_ | HDHomerun does QAM and ATSC | 21:20 |
| rhpot1991 | ya | 21:20 |
| Penth | ah - I thought it was an over-the-air vs cable vs satellite distinction within NTSC | 21:20 |
| orificium_ | Not sure about satellite | 21:20 |
| * Penth doesn't have cable of any kind, just DSL | 21:20 | |
| rhpot1991 | you can't do much with satellite in the us | 21:21 |
| orificium_ | But usually if you want to record encrypted cahnnels on pay services, you have to re-encode and hook up to the STP | 21:21 |
| orificium_ | STB | 21:21 |
| rhpot1991 | just gotta have a stb and capture from whatever holes it has | 21:21 |
| mishehu | *sqwak* reboot reboot reinstall! *whistle* | 21:21 |
| mishehu | here's goes attempt #2 | 21:21 |
| orificium_ | Penth: Even if you don't subscribe to Comcast, there should be lines running into your house. Test em out. | 21:21 |
| tgm4883 | my cable company encrypts their local HD channels, no clear QAM for me | 21:22 |
| rhpot1991 | with comcast you should get your locals over clear qam | 21:22 |
| orificium_ | tgm4883: whos' your local cable company? | 21:22 |
| mishehu | I'm just going to see how it works with the open source drivers. I imagine that the hdmi doesn't require special video drivers to operate (and not that I have anything to hook it up to yet either) | 21:22 |
| rhpot1991 | tgm4883: illegals, you call and threaten them? | 21:22 |
| tgm4883 | yea I did | 21:22 |
| tgm4883 | some local company. wbcable.net | 21:22 |
| rhpot1991 | prob didn't have any idea what you were talking about | 21:22 |
| orificium_ | I'm pretty sure it's an FCC regulation | 21:22 |
| rhpot1991 | tgm4883: should report them to the FCC | 21:22 |
| tgm4883 | yea I should | 21:22 |
| mishehu | tgm4883: did you write the FCC? | 21:23 |
| mishehu | I would | 21:23 |
| tgm4883 | instead I canceled cable, bought an $80 antenna and now get the channels for free | 21:23 |
| rhpot1991 | tgm4883: try to find some executive emails for them, contact them and CC the FCC on it | 21:23 |
| rhpot1991 | heh, well then its prob not worth your time, but you should still report them | 21:23 |
| mishehu | I also dropped comcast after they told me that I can't get anything but OTA channels on the firewire because I might record something and keep it forever. | 21:23 |
| orificium_ | mishehu: use the open source drivers and then use the "Hardware Drivers" dialog once you're in XFCE to see if ATI prorpietary is available | 21:23 |
| tgm4883 | guy kept telling me I needed a box because TV's only can tune up to ch 125 and there HD channels are in the 700's | 21:23 |
| rhpot1991 | mishehu: hah, anyone I've ever talked to at comcast didn't know that firewire wasn't usb | 21:23 |
| tgm4883 | i kept telling him my tuner can see the channels, just can't tune them | 21:24 |
| rhpot1991 | tgm4883: classy, thats when you ask to speak to a tech or someone who knows the technology and just not how to read from a screen | 21:24 |
| tgm4883 | and they got very upset when I called them encrypted | 21:24 |
| orificium_ | I only wish I cuold get SciFi, Discovery, and FX via QAM :( | 21:24 |
| mishehu | orificium_: it's using the most up-to-date fglrx at the moment, so I know that's no good. | 21:24 |
| mishehu | most up-ot-date for my hardware that is. | 21:25 |
| rhpot1991 | orificium_: I get them (not FX) via firewire | 21:25 |
| mishehu | since I've got legacy nowadays. | 21:25 |
| Penth | (Last time I wrote to the FCC it was over Verizon and TW dropping all the alt.* newsgroups. Three months later I got a nice form letter telling me to complain to Verizon, as if I hadn't done so in three different media.. | 21:25 |
| orificium_ | rhpot1991: Comcast? | 21:25 |
| orificium_ | rhpot1991: The DCT 6100 right? | 21:25 |
| rhpot1991 | orificium_: yes, in harrisburg | 21:25 |
| rhpot1991 | 3200 | 21:25 |
| orificium_ | er yeah, 3200 | 21:25 |
| mishehu | rhpot1991: it was my lucky day I suppose. I told him "fsck you, my parents kept all their vhs tapes from the 1980s. didn't hurt your business." | 21:26 |
| orificium_ | rhpot1991: Get a lot of other unencrypted? | 21:26 |
| rhpot1991 | orificium_ almost all my HD, FX is one of the few I've hit that I don't | 21:26 |
| orificium_ | I've thought about subscribing to basic digital cable. But that's what torrents are for :X | 21:27 |
| mishehu | rhpot1991: nowadays I'm going to see if there's anything at all worthwhile to grab off of the airwaves... I don't want to spend $70/month and have to do digital-to-analog-to-digital conversions all the time. | 21:27 |
| rhpot1991 | that said, firewire is flaky, sometimes it dies and takes down my backend till I notice and bring it back up | 21:27 |
| orificium_ | rhpot1991: No It's Always Sunny for you :) | 21:27 |
| rhpot1991 | I do almost all of my stuff from my HDHR | 21:27 |
| rhpot1991 | discovery, usa, espn are the ones I worry about for firewire | 21:28 |
| rhpot1991 | I did fx when the shield was on, but that wasn't HD so my pvr-350 handled that fine | 21:28 |
| mishehu | I had problems with firewire spb2 (hard drives) on the standard kernel 1394 stack. ever since I moved off to the new 1394 stack, I have no issues. unfortunately I don't think anything in myth will support devices using the newer stack. | 21:28 |
| * orificium_ is wondering when they're going start cracking down on tv torrents. Hopes its never. :) | 21:28 | |
| mishehu | orificium_: cue princess leia and grand moff tarkin | 21:29 |
| mishehu | something about the tighter they grip... | 21:29 |
| * Penth jsut wants to turn her computer back into her computer, instead of it being the Hulu machine | 21:30 | |
| Penth | How well does MythTV work as a front end for vodcasts and torrents, btw? | 21:34 |
| orificium_ | Penth: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythNettv might be an option for that | 21:35 |
| orificium_ | I haven't realy played with it yet | 21:35 |
| tgm4883 | mythnettv support is going away for 9.10 | 21:36 |
| rhpot1991 | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MiroBridge | 21:36 |
| tgm4883 | in favor of miro support | 21:36 |
| rhpot1991 | ^ use that in 9.10 | 21:36 |
| orificium_ | As far as I can tell, it doesn't really do what I'd want it to with torrents. If only torrentocracy still was around :) | 21:36 |
| Penth | Yay. I wasn't going to say Miro, but that's just... Yay | 21:36 |
| rhpot1991 | orificium_: its easy enough, have your torrents dump into a directory that mythvideo uses, and just run the tool to rescan that | 21:37 |
| rhpot1991 | I think miro has torrent support in some capacity | 21:37 |
| Penth | And Miro has torrent support built in | 21:37 |
| mishehu | orificium_: oooh wow, there's been some good progress on the radeon open source driver... probably won't need to muck around with that fgrlx mess again | 21:37 |
| orificium_ | Yeah, AMD released a lot of docs in recent years | 21:38 |
| orificium_ | mishehu: Not sure how well 2d acceleration is gonna work though | 21:38 |
| mishehu | orificium_: from what I understand it was always the 2D that was easily supported. | 21:39 |
| rhpot1991 | nothing like VDPAU from amd/ati yet though | 21:39 |
| mishehu | it was the 3d that was what they weren't quick to release. | 21:39 |
| rhpot1991 | and now you want video rendering to happen on the card | 21:39 |
| mishehu | rhpot1991: I know vdpau is nvidia, but what does it do exactly again? | 21:39 |
| orificium_ | rhpot1991: Yeah I use utorrent + rss but it would be nice to manage an RSS feed from wtihin Mythfrontend | 21:39 |
| rhpot1991 | mishehu: you offload the video rendering to the gpu | 21:40 |
| tgm4883 | rhpot1991, yea there is | 21:40 |
| mishehu | rhpot1991: ati cards have had some hardware opts for years. | 21:40 |
| mishehu | I don't know how they compare to what nvidia has | 21:40 |
| rhpot1991 | maybe I'm wrong there | 21:40 |
| tgm4883 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Video_Bitstream_Acceleration | 21:40 |
| mishehu | in fact, the ati rage already had some yuv hardware opts (although not full mpeg opts) | 21:41 |
| rhpot1991 | As of September 2009, no publicly available driver supports XvBA. | 21:41 |
| mishehu | what's XvBA? | 21:41 |
| rhpot1991 | ati's version of vdpau | 21:41 |
| mishehu | man the headache is coming on... too many hours left of no eating :-/ | 21:42 |
| mishehu | rhpot1991: ah ok. | 21:42 |
| Penth | Any opinions on the EVGA or Sparkle GeForce 8400GS PCI cards? | 21:42 |
| mishehu | sorry, no, I dont' work much with nvidia | 21:43 |
| mishehu | though I do have an ION board here to load up after the one I'm wokring on right now. | 21:43 |
| rhpot1991 | Penth: google them and make sure they work with VDPAU, will be more useful to you in the future | 21:43 |
| orificium_ | http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU - lists all supported cards | 21:44 |
| * Penth just may be heading back to MicroCenter before supper. | 21:45 | |
| mishehu | so vdpau is used, for example, when you are using a codec that your card doesn't already have dedicated circuitry to handle? | 21:45 |
| orificium_ | Penth: Where is there a microcenter near philly? | 21:45 |
| Penth | I checked the list; that7s why I'm asking about those two cards. | 21:45 |
| Penth | MicroCenter is on Lancaster Pike in St. Davids, just above Villanova and 476 | 21:46 |
| mishehu | I'm not a happy camper right now, even with the open source drivers, myth-setup.real launches from the install process and presents me with... a black background and a white border where a window should be... | 21:46 |
| orificium_ | Hm, so there is | 21:46 |
| rhpot1991 | Penth: best bets, are to search the mailing list, or ask in #mythtv-users, finding people who use those cards is normally the best bet | 21:46 |
| orificium_ | That's cool since CompUSA has gone there isn't really a PC superstore around her eany more | 21:46 |
| mishehu | orificium_: too bad you guys dont' have a fry's around you | 21:48 |
| Penth | I just got a 1tb Samsung green series drive there this morning for $75. Lots of fun; the power had been knocked out to the pike and the buildings on both sides, so I had to be led around with a flashlight. | 21:48 |
| * Penth misses Fry's | 21:48 | |
| orificium_ | I think CostCo is a ways off too | 21:48 |
| orificium_ | Most Sams and BJs | 21:49 |
| mishehu | I used to live in walking distance from Fry's... now I have to drive 25 minutes each way | 21:49 |
| Penth | When I saw that the MicroCenter in King of Prussia was gone, I thought the chain had disappeared for good. | 21:49 |
| Penth | mishehu: in Sunnyvale? | 21:49 |
| mishehu | Penth: austin | 21:50 |
| mishehu | superm1: you around? I'm having this problem with 9.04, and I just downloaded the images like two or three days ago from the main site... https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/355911 | 21:51 |
| mishehu | and since you're the only mario on this project I figured that you're the one who commented on that bug | 21:51 |
| orificium_ | 120GB SATA solid-state for $320. Eh I think I'll wait for 1gb/$1 | 21:52 |
| mishehu | orificium_: I think I'll wait for that to come down a LOT more than that even :-) | 21:52 |
| rhpot1991 | mishehu: he is away now, check back tonight/tomorrow | 21:53 |
| mishehu | rhpot1991: I figured he was away :-/ | 21:53 |
| orificium_ | mishehu: Yeah, 500GB are going for $100 or less | 21:53 |
| mishehu | if I can't get this 9.04 to install, I might consider 9.10a6, depending on how much of a work-in-progress 9.10a6 is... | 21:55 |
| orificium_ | mishehu: Isn't 9.04 out of beta? I saw in your bug details it says you're using 9.04 beta | 22:09 |
| tgm4883 | 9.10 beta comes out thursday | 22:19 |
| JEDIDIAH__ | vdpau? use the 190 version of the nvidia driver. | 22:23 |
| JEDIDIAH__ | if your video isn't accelerated, check your config or complain to adobe. | 22:24 |
| JEDIDIAH__ | '-) | 22:24 |
| mishehu | orificium_: I've got the 9.04 official release, as downloaded from the main mythbuntu site | 22:28 |
| mishehu | that guy's bug report was filed back around april | 22:29 |
| mishehu | I was also prompted by synaptic to download and install about 160 mb of updates | 22:30 |
| orificium_ | JEDIDIAH__: Why does Adobe get the blame? | 22:30 |
| JEDIDIAH__ | flash | 22:40 |
| orificium_ | JEDIDIAH__: flash affects how VDPAU was implemented? | 22:41 |
| JEDIDIAH__ | flash doesn't use hw acceleration | 22:42 |
| mishehu | flash is crap | 22:45 |
| JEDIDIAH__ | it qualifies as "some codec that doesn't have support built into the videocard" | 22:45 |
| JEDIDIAH__ | ...it's the most likely variant of that infact. | 22:45 |
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