=== darthanubis is now known as apt-get [00:22] hey all - does the diskless server work in mythbuntu control centre? [02:03] I just installed Mythbuntu 9.04 and when I go to the video manager the "Enter IMDB #" window is always showing. [02:03] is anyone else having this issue? [03:04] Eagle_Boy: known issue, if you search around there is a bug on LP about it [06:19] tgm4883, look at this http://insidiousramblings.com/blog/?p=40 [06:30] oobe, hmm [06:30] interesting [06:30] I think i like the 0.22 mythbuntu theme better though [06:32] did u install it [06:32] i didnt know there was a 9.10 .22 theme [06:33] oobe, this is a little outdated, as the theme team has done a lot of work daily, but here http://bpcs.net/gallery/1-mythtv-mythbuntu-theme/detail/48-mythbuntutheme001.html?tmpl=component [06:34] and they do *a lot* of work tweaking the theme so it looks just right [06:34] I didn't install hacky mess, just looked at the screenshots [06:35] that theme looks nice [06:35] oobe, thank gbutters [06:36] good to see mythbuntu has its own theme now as apose to putting the logo ontop of Mepo or others. [10:41] are there any good dual usb tuners with a single RF input that work OTB? in 9.04 [10:46] the problem word there is "good" [10:59] directhex can u give a twin that works otb then forget "good" [12:37] someone who can help me thrue the configuration for an tv out geforce card ? [12:37] the thing is that i dont know how to change the output to B-pal [12:37] I'm trying to upgrade my lirc to 0.8.6 to get my imon remote going and apt-get upgrade complains about keeping back lirc, any tips ? [12:41] Anyone have instructions on how to upgrade from the default mythbuntu 9.04 lirc to lirc 0.8.6 ? [12:44] someone who can help me thrue the configuration for an tv out geforce card ? [12:44] the thing is that i dont know how to change the output to B-pal [12:50] google: I'm a total mythbuntu noob, still trying to setup my shiny new htpc, but I thought B-Pal was one of the options in the mythbuntu control center === tgm4883` is now known as tgm4883 [14:26] myth tv is not starting !!!! [14:27] help ! [14:33] the more exclamation marks you use, the slower the help comes in my experience === apt-get is now known as darthanubis [14:45] shashwatpns: you should prob provide more information as well [20:12] * mishehu yawns. [20:12] slow day today [20:15] is the weekly builds site down? [20:15] orificium, the US one is [20:15] we are looking into it [20:16] you can use the PPA or UK one right now [20:16] nice [20:16] 06:26:42> -myth tv is not starting !!!! [20:16] so start it? [20:17] booya, case closed [20:17] so I'm about to find out how painful it is to attempt to get my hauppage hvr 2250 to work with 9.04... [20:17] * tgm4883 shrugs [20:17] hah, just saw the philly oct 3rd thing on the site. I live in Philly. Hm :) [20:17] as soon as mythsetup launches of course :-) [20:18] Anyone gonna be there that can troubleshoot HD video on a 8300 seriesi chipset mobo? :) [20:18] well I live in oregon [20:18] so not me [20:18] but there are going to be some people there that should be able to troubleshoot some stuff [20:19] "8300 series chipset mobo" is still rather vague. [20:19] orificium: you mean VDPAU? [20:19] I'm betting an onboard 8300 series nvidia gpu isn't gonan hack it. [20:19] yeah using VDPAU [20:19] rhpot1991 might be going [20:19] ya I'm planning on being there [20:19] I dont' think the 8300 supports VDPAU [20:19] sec [20:20] GeForce 8300 [20:20] its on the list [20:20] ok [20:20] gonna have to use a weak deinterlacer prob [20:20] Well I don't relly know what it is. I think its either an 8300 or 8400. It's a nVidia nForce 750a [20:20] I have deinterlacing off. [20:21] was watching Fringe the other week [20:21] and it was almost bearable, but vrey jittery [20:21] oooh lovely! mythsetup froze on load while doing a fresh install! [20:21] thats no deal [20:21] Someone mentioned FOX doesn't deinterlace [20:21] er [20:21] use interlaced [20:22] I use deinterlacers for everything [20:22] IF I had VDPAU turned on, and its playing the video, does that mean VDPAU is supported? [20:22] orificium: I think there is some command line tool you can run to see [20:22] orificium: are you running karmic on it? [20:22] Running 9.04 + weekly builds [20:22] trunk [20:23] But I haven't updated in over a week probably [20:23] Penth, whats happening? [20:23] It's givign me a can't connect to weeklybuilds.mythbuntu.org:80 now [20:23] orificium: ya they are down currently, tgm4883 is on it [20:23] orificium, did you switch repos? [20:24] nah, not yet. [20:24] rhpot1991, yea, like I have control over that [20:24] * tgm4883 pokes Daviey [20:25] Not much yet -- just doing research to turn an old HP flattop into a Mythbuntu box. Trying to find a popularity list for DVB-T and analog-out cards [20:25] Penth, you going to the install fest on the 3rd? [20:26] Instellfest? When and where? [20:26] Philly, oct 3rd [20:26] what's the difference between PPA and US/UK? [20:26] Penth, sorry, I assumed thats what brought you here [20:27] No, but great to know. Is it on phillylinux.org? [20:27] (nm, found on google [20:28] Penth: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 [20:29] in fact [20:29] @learn PhillyMythJam - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 [20:29] hmm [20:29] rhpot1991, where is Zinn? [20:29] good question [20:30] I'll assume he didn't rejoin after your server went down last night [20:30] I think there might have been a hiccup somewhere over the weekend, my bip disconnected or something [20:30] yea last night [20:30] he should automagically rejoin though [20:30] strange [20:30] might be more from kicks than server disconnects [20:31] Perfetto! I just saw Lyz on Tuesday; I should have mentioned I wsa planning a Myth box [20:31] !status [20:31] I am alive. [20:31] @learn PhillyMythJam - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 [20:31] I just learned: PhillyMythJam - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 [20:32] there we go [20:32] !Phi% | rhpot1991 [20:32] rhpot1991: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 [20:32] rhpot1991: remember what that command line utility is? [20:32] @learn PhillyMythJam - Join the Ubuntu PA LoCo team on Oct 3rd for a Mythbuntu Mythbuntu Jam. Details at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 [20:32] orificium: not really, I'd have to search, plus my VDPAU box is turned off till I get home from work [20:32] I just learned: PhillyMythJam - Join the Ubuntu PA LoCo team on Oct 3rd for a Mythbuntu Mythbuntu Jam. Details at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PennsylvaniaTeam/EventsTeam/PhillyMythJam2009 [20:33] rhpot1991: I'm pretty sure my cpu usage goes way down when using VDPAU. But unfortunately when the camera is panning or there is movement, there is alot of jitter [20:33] orificium: try turnning on a lower deinterlacer, like bob? [20:34] rhpot1991: I wasn't using any deinterlacing at the timne. But I can try playing wtih the settings some more. [20:34] I'd do that [20:34] what nvidia version are you running? [20:34] I thought VDPAU wasn't supported till karmic, unless you used a 3rd party repo for the nvidia drivers [20:34] 180.44 [20:35] That's the other thing I meant to try. the latest beta drivers. [20:35] rhpot1991, it's supported in 0.22 [20:35] I think thats good, I've read 185.xx makes it even better [20:35] tgm4883: ya, but I thought there was an nvidia driver dependency as well [20:36] IIRC, just 180+ [20:36] I think I had issues with my monitor using 185 and taht's why I stuck with 180 [20:36] orificium, ok, the us repo should be working now [20:36] kinda [20:36] retarded scaling issues [20:36] tgm4883: hah, I just did dpkg-reconfigure on mythbunturepos and set it to PPA:) [20:36] shuold I stick with US instead? [20:36] no that should be fine [20:37] What is PPA? [20:37] either is fine [20:37] can someone exlpain that :) [20:37] PPA is where the packages are built for us. it's a Personal Package Archive that canonical provides [20:37] It's available to all launchpad users [20:38] one of these days I need to look aruond on launchpad and try to understand how to navgiate it. It seems very overwhelming [20:38] mishehu: let us know how that hvr2250 works out, sounds like a good card [20:39] NVIDIA X Server Settings shows my GRaphics Processor as "nForce 750a SLI". I think this is the only integrated GPU that was like this. [20:47] I could try adding this TripleBuffer option to xorg [20:47] and the no-composite [20:47] Can someone describe "tearing"? [20:47] I see that lot, but I'm not sure what it looks like [20:49] rhpot1991: if I could even get the damn machine to show me something other than kludge when X is launched, I would :-) [20:49] mishehu: Please watch your language. [20:49] zinn a bot? [20:49] Yeah, apparently d*mn is too far :) [20:50] d*mn, I can't fscking swear here *grin* (don't kick me bot, I say I say it's a joke, son) [20:50] anyway I bet that I'm having typical fglrx woes. [20:50] * mishehu frowns. [20:52] Is 22080 latest trunk revision? [20:53] well, in the weeklybuilds I guess [20:55] what's the name of the amd video drivers when using apt-get? [20:55] it's not sticking out at me in the list of packages. [20:55] I wanted to try updating it to see if I can magically get video again when in X. [20:56] xserver-xorg-video-amd ? [20:57] orificium_: thought it was named something else because I'm guessing it's the fglrx closed-source drivers... I'll look down there and see if it's under xserver-xorg-video [20:57] I think there is a xerver-xorg-video-radeon too [20:58] I don't know much about using ATI/AMD in linux. Don't want to mislead you :) [20:58] oh I see a fglrx-amdcccle too [20:58] IS it a r5xx,r6xx or r7xx? [20:59] sec [20:59] it's one of the onboards [21:00] 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS690 [Radeon X1200 Series] [21:01] Alright, I'm having a few issues... How do I record a show that goes over its timeslot? [21:02] quentusrex: you following me here too?? [21:02] http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.7&product=2.7.4.3.3.3.1&lang=English [21:02] between you and that Essobi character... [21:02] quentusrex, tell it to download longer in the schedule? [21:02] mishehu: you can download latest driver from there [21:03] also, how do I clear the tv listings from the database? [21:03] orificium_: yeah, was trying to use whatever mythtbuntu has, so as to not mess up with the package management. at least back in 8.04 there was a specific package for that. [21:03] I changed the channel line up at schedules direct [21:03] quentusrex: DROP DATABASE ;-) [21:03] :( [21:03] mishehu, dont tell people to do bad things [21:03] I'd hate to ban you [21:03] lol [21:03] tgm4883: it's ok, quentusrex knows me [21:04] well that isn't entirely true [21:04] I know mishehu from another channel [21:04] quentusrex: liar, you know me in person too [21:04] I haven't banned anyone in awhile, i'm getting an itchy trigger finger [21:04] and so does that Essobi character. [21:04] tgm4883: if you like, I can have another client connect in, then have it say some naughty words and you can ban it... [21:04] * mishehu grins. [21:05] lol [21:05] just trying to help out with those itchy fingers! [21:05] still gotta be careful, this channel is logged and someone might read it for help later [21:06] rhpot1991: I'll put the tags next time [21:06] that way anbody looking at a log will see it's not serious. [21:06] anyway, that IS what I have done in the past when the database got all screwed up... [21:07] quentusrex: I usuaslly configure mythtv to record an extra 30 seconds befiore and after a show [21:07] but it was REALLY screwed up, and that was back prior to 0.18 even [21:07] quentusrex: in case it goes on early/late [21:07] issue there is you overlap tuners [21:08] I normally record some things, and if something always goes early/late, I adjust [21:08] I do have one issue now though, community records for a few secods in the end of the office, and then when I cut to the next recording I miss a few seconds [21:08] rhpot1991: I know I had issues with it in the past, but I'm onl yusing 1 tuner so far haven't seen any problems [21:09] * orificium_ lost my pwoer adapter for my hdhomerun :( [21:09] orificium_: the game I was trying to record went 15 minutes late... [21:09] quentusrex: oh yeah, sports games are probably gonna be an issue [21:09] * Penth is thinking about ust using an HDHomeRun and http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0291885 to set up the living room Myth box. Opinions? [21:09] quentusrex: might want to just schedule recording wahtever is after it [21:10] quentusrex: you know, I've always toyed around with the idea of somehow doing some sort of functions for mythtv in freeswitch [21:10] orificium_: careful what you plug into that [21:10] Penth: I love the hdhomerun. Except that I had issues with the backend starting before the network did. and therefore hdhomerun wouldn't connect so I had to restart backend if I ever restarted my box. [21:10] someone else around here plugged something else in that fit it, and fried the board on it [21:11] Penth: HDHR is highly recommended around here [21:11] rhpot1991: I haven't tried to plug anything into. I always check voltage and milliamps. I'm gonan order one from silocondust for like $15 [21:11] for a video card I would only get something that does VDPAU anymore: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU [21:11] orificium_: ya just saying to be careful, its a $80 mistake otherwise [21:11] quentusrex: but I could never think of WHAT to integrate. [21:11] You noly paid $80 for yours? :) [21:11] *only [21:12] or were those the repair costs [21:12] orificium_: no, thats the repair cost for them [21:12] Oh yeah, anyone looking to purchase the hdhomerun, and you acn wait. there are usualyl deals that pop up every so often. [21:13] ~150 is the going rate, which is good [21:13] I think snagged mine from newegg for 130 [21:14] Oh and black friday is coming up :) [21:14] well, seems the easiest thing to test, and the box itself is just going to be an old P4 (http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Home.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=316713&lang=en&cc=us) and hooking it up via s-video to a 24" analog screen [21:15] not sure thats a black friday deal [21:15] seems to specific [21:15] MicroCenter has the Homerun for 140 [21:15] Penth: do you need a HD tuner then? [21:15] if its an analog display? [21:17] rhpot1991, cough, digital tuner cough [21:17] Mostly looking for a good DVB-T Tuner, but if I'm going to record Dollhouse it's worth an extra $20-30 for me to go HD [21:18] Penth: What country are you in? [21:18] US; Philly to be exact [21:18] isnt' dvb-t a europe thing? [21:18] Penth: oh that's exactly where I'm at. Old City. [21:18] Yeah, was gonan say [21:19] DVB-T is terrestial in other countries [21:19] Penth: You would use either QAM or NTSC or ATSC [21:19] Penth: I take the local HD stations right off the Comcast cable lines (thanks FCC) using a QAM tuner [21:20] I think you want qam or atsc [21:20] HDHomerun does QAM and ATSC [21:20] ya [21:20] ah - I thought it was an over-the-air vs cable vs satellite distinction within NTSC [21:20] Not sure about satellite [21:20] * Penth doesn't have cable of any kind, just DSL [21:21] you can't do much with satellite in the us [21:21] But usually if you want to record encrypted cahnnels on pay services, you have to re-encode and hook up to the STP [21:21] STB [21:21] just gotta have a stb and capture from whatever holes it has [21:21] *sqwak* reboot reboot reinstall! *whistle* [21:21] here's goes attempt #2 [21:21] Penth: Even if you don't subscribe to Comcast, there should be lines running into your house. Test em out. [21:22] my cable company encrypts their local HD channels, no clear QAM for me [21:22] with comcast you should get your locals over clear qam [21:22] tgm4883: whos' your local cable company? [21:22] I'm just going to see how it works with the open source drivers. I imagine that the hdmi doesn't require special video drivers to operate (and not that I have anything to hook it up to yet either) [21:22] tgm4883: illegals, you call and threaten them? [21:22] yea I did [21:22] some local company. wbcable.net [21:22] prob didn't have any idea what you were talking about [21:22] I'm pretty sure it's an FCC regulation [21:22] tgm4883: should report them to the FCC [21:22] yea I should [21:23] tgm4883: did you write the FCC? [21:23] I would [21:23] instead I canceled cable, bought an $80 antenna and now get the channels for free [21:23] tgm4883: try to find some executive emails for them, contact them and CC the FCC on it [21:23] heh, well then its prob not worth your time, but you should still report them [21:23] I also dropped comcast after they told me that I can't get anything but OTA channels on the firewire because I might record something and keep it forever. [21:23] mishehu: use the open source drivers and then use the "Hardware Drivers" dialog once you're in XFCE to see if ATI prorpietary is available [21:23] guy kept telling me I needed a box because TV's only can tune up to ch 125 and there HD channels are in the 700's [21:23] mishehu: hah, anyone I've ever talked to at comcast didn't know that firewire wasn't usb [21:24] i kept telling him my tuner can see the channels, just can't tune them [21:24] tgm4883: classy, thats when you ask to speak to a tech or someone who knows the technology and just not how to read from a screen [21:24] and they got very upset when I called them encrypted [21:24] I only wish I cuold get SciFi, Discovery, and FX via QAM :( [21:24] orificium_: it's using the most up-to-date fglrx at the moment, so I know that's no good. [21:25] most up-ot-date for my hardware that is. [21:25] orificium_: I get them (not FX) via firewire [21:25] since I've got legacy nowadays. [21:25] (Last time I wrote to the FCC it was over Verizon and TW dropping all the alt.* newsgroups. Three months later I got a nice form letter telling me to complain to Verizon, as if I hadn't done so in three different media.. [21:25] rhpot1991: Comcast? [21:25] rhpot1991: The DCT 6100 right? [21:25] orificium_: yes, in harrisburg [21:25] 3200 [21:25] er yeah, 3200 [21:26] rhpot1991: it was my lucky day I suppose. I told him "fsck you, my parents kept all their vhs tapes from the 1980s. didn't hurt your business." [21:26] rhpot1991: Get a lot of other unencrypted? [21:26] orificium_ almost all my HD, FX is one of the few I've hit that I don't [21:27] I've thought about subscribing to basic digital cable. But that's what torrents are for :X [21:27] rhpot1991: nowadays I'm going to see if there's anything at all worthwhile to grab off of the airwaves... I don't want to spend $70/month and have to do digital-to-analog-to-digital conversions all the time. [21:27] that said, firewire is flaky, sometimes it dies and takes down my backend till I notice and bring it back up [21:27] rhpot1991: No It's Always Sunny for you :) [21:27] I do almost all of my stuff from my HDHR [21:28] discovery, usa, espn are the ones I worry about for firewire [21:28] I did fx when the shield was on, but that wasn't HD so my pvr-350 handled that fine [21:28] I had problems with firewire spb2 (hard drives) on the standard kernel 1394 stack. ever since I moved off to the new 1394 stack, I have no issues. unfortunately I don't think anything in myth will support devices using the newer stack. [21:28] * orificium_ is wondering when they're going start cracking down on tv torrents. Hopes its never. :) [21:29] orificium_: cue princess leia and grand moff tarkin [21:29] something about the tighter they grip... [21:30] * Penth jsut wants to turn her computer back into her computer, instead of it being the Hulu machine [21:34] How well does MythTV work as a front end for vodcasts and torrents, btw? [21:35] Penth: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MythNettv might be an option for that [21:35] I haven't realy played with it yet [21:36] mythnettv support is going away for 9.10 [21:36] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/MiroBridge [21:36] in favor of miro support [21:36] ^ use that in 9.10 [21:36] As far as I can tell, it doesn't really do what I'd want it to with torrents. If only torrentocracy still was around :) [21:36] Yay. I wasn't going to say Miro, but that's just... Yay [21:37] orificium_: its easy enough, have your torrents dump into a directory that mythvideo uses, and just run the tool to rescan that [21:37] I think miro has torrent support in some capacity [21:37] And Miro has torrent support built in [21:37] orificium_: oooh wow, there's been some good progress on the radeon open source driver... probably won't need to muck around with that fgrlx mess again [21:38] Yeah, AMD released a lot of docs in recent years [21:38] mishehu: Not sure how well 2d acceleration is gonna work though [21:39] orificium_: from what I understand it was always the 2D that was easily supported. [21:39] nothing like VDPAU from amd/ati yet though [21:39] it was the 3d that was what they weren't quick to release. [21:39] and now you want video rendering to happen on the card [21:39] rhpot1991: I know vdpau is nvidia, but what does it do exactly again? [21:39] rhpot1991: Yeah I use utorrent + rss but it would be nice to manage an RSS feed from wtihin Mythfrontend [21:40] mishehu: you offload the video rendering to the gpu [21:40] rhpot1991, yea there is [21:40] rhpot1991: ati cards have had some hardware opts for years. [21:40] I don't know how they compare to what nvidia has [21:40] maybe I'm wrong there [21:40] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-Video_Bitstream_Acceleration [21:41] in fact, the ati rage already had some yuv hardware opts (although not full mpeg opts) [21:41] As of September 2009, no publicly available driver supports XvBA. [21:41] what's XvBA? [21:41] ati's version of vdpau [21:42] man the headache is coming on... too many hours left of no eating :-/ [21:42] rhpot1991: ah ok. [21:42] Any opinions on the EVGA or Sparkle GeForce 8400GS PCI cards? [21:43] sorry, no, I dont' work much with nvidia [21:43] though I do have an ION board here to load up after the one I'm wokring on right now. [21:43] Penth: google them and make sure they work with VDPAU, will be more useful to you in the future [21:44] http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/VDPAU - lists all supported cards [21:45] * Penth just may be heading back to MicroCenter before supper. [21:45] so vdpau is used, for example, when you are using a codec that your card doesn't already have dedicated circuitry to handle? [21:45] Penth: Where is there a microcenter near philly? [21:45] I checked the list; that7s why I'm asking about those two cards. [21:46] MicroCenter is on Lancaster Pike in St. Davids, just above Villanova and 476 [21:46] I'm not a happy camper right now, even with the open source drivers, myth-setup.real launches from the install process and presents me with... a black background and a white border where a window should be... [21:46] Hm, so there is [21:46] Penth: best bets, are to search the mailing list, or ask in #mythtv-users, finding people who use those cards is normally the best bet [21:46] That's cool since CompUSA has gone there isn't really a PC superstore around her eany more [21:48] orificium_: too bad you guys dont' have a fry's around you [21:48] I just got a 1tb Samsung green series drive there this morning for $75. Lots of fun; the power had been knocked out to the pike and the buildings on both sides, so I had to be led around with a flashlight. [21:48] * Penth misses Fry's [21:48] I think CostCo is a ways off too [21:49] Most Sams and BJs [21:49] I used to live in walking distance from Fry's... now I have to drive 25 minutes each way [21:49] When I saw that the MicroCenter in King of Prussia was gone, I thought the chain had disappeared for good. [21:49] mishehu: in Sunnyvale? [21:50] Penth: austin [21:51] superm1: you around? I'm having this problem with 9.04, and I just downloaded the images like two or three days ago from the main site... https://bugs.launchpad.net/mythbuntu/+bug/355911 [21:51] and since you're the only mario on this project I figured that you're the one who commented on that bug [21:52] 120GB SATA solid-state for $320. Eh I think I'll wait for 1gb/$1 [21:52] orificium_: I think I'll wait for that to come down a LOT more than that even :-) [21:53] mishehu: he is away now, check back tonight/tomorrow [21:53] rhpot1991: I figured he was away :-/ [21:53] mishehu: Yeah, 500GB are going for $100 or less [21:55] if I can't get this 9.04 to install, I might consider 9.10a6, depending on how much of a work-in-progress 9.10a6 is... [22:09] mishehu: Isn't 9.04 out of beta? I saw in your bug details it says you're using 9.04 beta [22:19] 9.10 beta comes out thursday [22:23] vdpau? use the 190 version of the nvidia driver. [22:24] if your video isn't accelerated, check your config or complain to adobe. [22:24] '-) [22:28] orificium_: I've got the 9.04 official release, as downloaded from the main mythbuntu site [22:29] that guy's bug report was filed back around april [22:30] I was also prompted by synaptic to download and install about 160 mb of updates [22:30] JEDIDIAH__: Why does Adobe get the blame? [22:40] flash [22:41] JEDIDIAH__: flash affects how VDPAU was implemented? [22:42] flash doesn't use hw acceleration [22:45] flash is crap [22:45] it qualifies as "some codec that doesn't have support built into the videocard" [22:45] ...it's the most likely variant of that infact. === bogus is now known as Guest66324