[01:21] <MenZa> watch bernardlychan in #ubuntu
[01:31] <MenZa> For the record, he was advertising "his hosting service for ubuntu server hosting and domain names"
[01:31] <MenZa> may want to keep an eye out for him
[04:03] <Flannel> Hi GSF1200S, how can we help you today?
[04:04] <GSF1200S> ive been in here once before. I dont have access to the router, so i cant update the firmware. I have /8001 appended to the freenode address, but it still wont grant me access to #ubuntu
[04:04] <GSF1200S> you guys helped me before basically by pointing me to the guide i should have read before
[04:04] <Flannel> GSF1200S: You need to follow the instructions in #ubuntu-read-topic and have the bots test you to remove the forward
[04:06] <GSF1200S> hmm, well it says it cannot test me and asks me if this is my usual username
[04:06] <GSF1200S> which it is
[04:06] <Flannel> GSF1200S: We've got one bot in there having probems right now.  The other one tested you, and has removed the forward.  You should now be able to join #ubuntu
[04:07] <GSF1200S> and now im in the channel again..
[04:07] <GSF1200S> yeah, ok, was a little confused. thank you
[04:07] <Flannel> GSF1200S: No problem.  Enjoy your stay in #ubuntu, thank you for flying with us today.
[04:07] <GSF1200S> :)
[09:06] <Flannel> Howdy aprilhare_, how can we help you today?
[09:06] <aprilhare_> hello flannel
[09:06] <topyli> hi aprilhare_
[09:07] <aprilhare_> hello topyli, you just banned me from #ubuntu-offtopic for banter with a new zealander?
[09:08] <topyli> aprilhare_: you don't need a review of the channel conduct i trust
[09:09] <aprilhare_> exactly how is that applicable
[09:09] <aprilhare_> its only banter of a gentle nature.
[09:10] <topyli> your sheep references are not appreciated, and your conduct is constantly on the edge, or over it. i can't babysit you, you're an experienced member of -ot
[09:10] <aprilhare_> ?
[09:10] <topyli> much better if you stay out for a couple of days now
[09:10] <aprilhare_> topyli: you're exaggerating
[09:11] <aprilhare_> not only that, you don't understand
[09:11] <Flannel> aprilhare_: I know you've been told not to in the past, because I have personally told you not to.
[09:12] <aprilhare_> what am I missing
[09:12] <aprilhare_> i think both of you need to be explicit
[09:13] <topyli> aprilhare_: you know the limits within which you may stay in the channel. as an old-timer, you should not only stay narrowly within them, but also be an example to new members
[09:13] <aprilhare_> topyli: you're not making any sense to me
[09:13] <aprilhare_> care to go back to first principle and tell me why sheep sounds are cause for a ban?
[09:13] <topyli> aprilhare_: please think about it for a day or two, then come back and we can discuss the future
[09:14] <aprilhare_> topyli: why? you'll get the same conversation in a day or two.
[09:14] <aprilhare_> please talk to me
[09:14] <aprilhare_> because this isn't very helpful
[09:16] <aprilhare_> i just can't believe it. you're ignoring me over a communications fault?
[09:16] <topyli> aprilhare_: in that case, come back only when the discussion is less likely to be the same
[09:16] <aprilhare_> topyli: i think you're using a big stick to me and it's not necessary
[09:18] <aprilhare_> it's not controversial, it's not offensive, it's harmless. you're making mountains out of nothing (not even a molehill).
[09:18] <elky> o.O
[09:18] <topyli> aprilhare_: we disagree on that, as you can see
[09:18] <aprilhare_> elky: i made sheep sounds to a new zealander and I get banned!
[09:19] <topyli> aprilhare_: no. you do it, and similar things, for month after month without listening to ops when told not to, and you get banned
[09:20] <elky> aprilhare_, this is not specifically about this incident, but rather a habit of baiting people.
[09:21] <aprilhare_> elky: i doubt sheep sounds to a new zealander are a big time baiting action - its just harmless banter
[09:22] <aprilhare_> elky: if it was you'd have to turn off all the tv transmitters in sydney
[09:22] <elky> it's not harmless banter. it led to someone mentioning beastiality in the channel.
[09:22] <elky> actually, more than just mention, graphically so.
[09:22] <aprilhare_> elky: i think he decided to do that off his own bat. i don't make anyone do anything
[09:23] <aprilhare_> i didn't lead him anywhere.
[09:23] <topyli> that's not true and you know it
[09:23] <aprilhare_> topyli: i believe it is true
[09:23] <elky> aprilhare_, you catalysed it. your baiting set the tone. your baiting is tedious and tiring.
[09:24] <aprilhare_> i tell you what. stomp on me some more. you'll get a real bait reaction then.
[09:24] <elky> aprilhare_, accept the consequences and wait out the time. it's not the only channel you use for casual conversation, and you're not going to gain anything by threatening us.
[09:25] <aprilhare_> elky: threatening? i'm pointing out *this* is baiting
[09:26] <aprilhare_> but hey. you're right. ops baiting innocent users because of others bad behaviour is getting tiring
[09:26] <topyli> aprilhare_: okay, i'll leave you with my prevous suggestion of thinking about your behavior for a couple of days, or however long it takes, and returning here when a constructive discussion about the future is more likely
[09:27] <elky> do i need to quote a dictionary definition of "threaten"
[09:29] <aprilhare_> elky: i said a couple of times, not one :)
[09:32] <elky> aprilhare_, your comments are not harmless no matter how hard you try convince yourself. Not only did this particular incident incite inappropriate comments, but sheep references *are* intimidating and exclusionary to some kiwis.
[09:32] <aprilhare_> elky: wow. you actually believe that
[09:32] <aprilhare_> strange people
[09:33] <elky> o.O
[09:41] <Flannel> !away > NorwayGeek|Away
[16:04] <Pici> Er, does anyone else using irssi see a background color for sipior's message at 11:02:19 ? (its 11:03 here now)
[16:04] <Pici> in #u
[16:07] <nalioth> no colors here
[16:08] <Pici> Weird then. /me checks his hilights just in case
[16:22] <Pici> meh
[17:01] <papapepper> please test me manually :-)
[17:02] <papapepper> I'm in ircII and a lot of this is new to me
[17:02] <papapepper> still learning how to use command line goodies!
[17:02] <nalioth> papapepper: may i suggest you  . .
[17:02] <nalioth> mmmkay
[17:10] <topyli> we don't need no stinkin' sugustians!
[17:10] <topyli> i wonder where ircII is still in use
[17:11] <topyli> oh packaged on ubuntu for example
[17:22] <elky> it's the default on dreamhost accounts too iirc, but that clearly was not a dreamhost account.
[18:30] <Flannel> Pici: Yes.
[18:46] <papapepper> help me please... just want to change port to 8001 in irssi
[18:46] <papapepper> i tried irssi --port 8001
[18:49] <Flannel> papapepper: edit ~/.irssi/config
[18:55] <papapepper> Flannel: thank you! :-)
[18:55] <papapepper> can I do that from tty3 while having chats on tty1 and 2 open without big problems?
[18:56] <nalioth> ubottu: tell papapepper about screen
[18:56]  * topyli checks what channel he's in
[18:56] <papapepper> there is no config file yet in ~/.irssi/
[19:00] <papapepper> ubottu: I can't see your pm
[19:00] <papapepper> ubottu: tell papapepper about screen
[19:00] <papapepper> :-(
[19:03] <nalioth> papapepper: at the bottom of your screen should be a red letter name of "ubottu" with a number next to it
[19:03] <nalioth> papapepper: typing /window [that number] will get you to his PM
[19:05] <papapepper> how do I close ubottu's window now? (4)
[19:06] <Flannel>  /wc
[19:06] <nalioth> papapepper: if you're done with him, go back to his window and type /window close
[19:06] <Flannel> (window close)
[19:08] <papapepper> uh oh
[19:17] <papapepper> well, "/connect irc.freenode.com 8001" works fine, except I'm still not allowed to join #ubuntu
[19:19] <nalioth> papapepper: no, you'll need to go to #ubuntu-read-topic and get tested
[19:20] <papapepper> nalioth: finally!
[19:20] <papapepper> thank you so much for everyone's help
[19:20] <papapepper> how do I give a reason when I leave a room?
[19:21] <nalioth> papapepper: it's not necessary.  /window close doesn't take reasons
[19:22] <papapepper> is there a /unjoin?
[19:22] <papapepper> only on disconnect, right?
[20:18] <stefg> we have a spammer chinchiller in #ubuntu
[20:25] <Pici> ikonia: That was the ban I just applied
[20:25] <ikonia> ooh really
[20:25] <ikonia> sorry
[20:25] <Pici> np
[20:25] <ikonia> I'd pm'd him but got no response
[20:25] <ikonia> I thought you did someone else, apologise
[20:25] <Pici> Why apoligize? I banned them, you removed.
[20:25] <ikonia> spam attack again in #ubuntu
[20:27] <ikonia> Pici: you may want to remove guest2385 from #proxy-users
[20:29] <ikonia> Pici: thank you, I should have banned him first time
[20:35] <genii> maco: I think too young for some browser-based game but not entirely certain...
[21:01] <Pici> note: I'm granting ljl +o in #ubuntu to debug an issue with the floodbots
[21:29] <maco> are nicks with drug references ok?
[21:30] <maco> argh i want to punch firefox for making my system unusable
[21:34] <maco> (well in case anyone reads the thing about drug reference nicks and is wondering, GiveMeWeed ss in #ubuntu)
[21:34] <maco> s/ss/is/
[21:47] <erUSUL> also please make the old factoid link be !vpngame
[21:47] <erUSUL> !vpn
[21:54] <erUSUL> someone alive ?
[21:54] <erUSUL> anyone*
[22:05] <ikonia> hello
[22:05] <erUSUL> hi
[22:05] <erUSUL> can you take care of that edit request ?
[22:08] <ikonia> I surley can if you give me a few minutes
[22:08] <erUSUL> ikonia: thank you very much
[22:08] <ikonia> just finishing off something else and don't want to lose my track
[22:08] <erUSUL> ikonia: no problem
[23:45] <erUSUL> !vpn
[23:45] <erUSUL> :|