/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/09/28/#xubuntu.txt

GSF1200S_is there a way to bind the menu that occurs when the the middle button is clicked on the desktop to a keyboard shortcut?01:48
mikubuntui wonder why i cant get vids from www.abc.go.com to play, keep gettg message that 'this platform' not supported and to use ie, firefox or safari, but i am using firefox .. anybody know what the problem might be?04:15
likemindeadmikubuntu, some proprietary nonsense, I'd assume. :-\04:57
mikubuntuprolly05:00
likemindeadG'nite.05:36
SineDeviancehi all. i have just installed xubuntu 9.04 amd64. i installed some icon themes from xfce-look.org but when i use those themes half the icons seem to be missing. those icons revert to the default icon theme08:29
SineDeviancewhat gives?08:29
SineDevianceanybody?08:38
ryguyhey08:39
ryguywhats up08:39
SineDeviancehey08:40
SineDeviancesup08:40
ryguychillin, codin08:40
SineDevianceah08:41
SineDevianceim trying to figure out icon theme madness08:41
SineDevianceapparently xfce4.4 > 4.6 broke something with all icon themes except the default08:41
ryguy=s I dunno, I only use the default theme08:42
avash1knock kcock anybody there?09:16
avash1i have a problem, can anyone help me?09:16
avash1nobody there very bad.09:17
avash1why i snobody here?09:17
avash1Legendre: can you help me?09:19
avash1KingOfDos: can you helpo me?09:19
ryguyello09:19
avash1mikubuntu: can you help me?09:19
avash1ryguy: can you help me?09:19
ryguylol If I knew your problem..09:20
avash1i used to have dual booting, xp and ubuntu. it went nice. but recently i had to remove ubuntu, and when i again installed it, ther comes error sying Error 15\; file not found.09:20
avash1of cource after booting to ubuntu09:20
avash1in GRUB09:20
ryguydid you do extensive google searching on the error?09:20
avash1it was no fruitful09:21
ryguydid you try editing that file (I forget which on it was) in widows that allows you to dual boot?09:21
ryguyI dont know much about dual booting linux and windows09:21
avash1no. because thats not what the problem is. hte problem is with ubuntu itself09:22
ryguywhat version ubuntu09:23
avash1baed on hardy09:24
ryguytry installing jaunty or karmic09:24
ryguykarmic has an updated version of grub09:24
MaxFrameshi09:24
ryguyhey09:24
avash1everybody suggests jaunty.09:25
ryguykarmic is still in development, thats why09:25
avash1i will try that.09:25
ablomenavash1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows << try this guide, it isnt the same senario but it does fix grub09:25
knomekarmic will be officially out in one month09:25
MaxFramesI am unable to resolve "short" hostnames (like "client1") from a xubuntu box, I have to specify the FQDN (like "client1.domain.local") even though I have added the "domain.local" suffix to the search list in resolv.conf09:25
MaxFramescan you help me?09:25
avash1do you know if dual booting is good or not? the othere day i met a girl, she said dual booting is very problamatic.09:26
ryguyits not bad, really.09:26
MaxFrames"give her the boot" :P09:26
ryguylol09:27
avash1"give her the boot" :P what does that amean09:27
* ryguy facepalms09:27
MaxFramesa joke09:28
avash1real meaning of that joke?09:28
MaxFrames"to give the boot" = "to fire, to dismiss, to get rid of"09:28
ryguybuy her a box of chocolates and some flowers09:28
avash1taht doesnot sound like a joke09:29
ryguyavashi, english isnt your first language, is it?09:29
avash1i am a nepalese09:30
ryguyI see09:30
MaxFramesanyway... can you help me figuring out that dns issue?09:30
ryguyI dont fully understand your problem09:30
MaxFramesthe search domain suffix list does not seem to work09:30
avash1i cant because i am a xo user. i have just started ubuntu09:31
MaxFramesI can't resolve a hostname if I don't add the domain suffix manually09:31
MaxFramesclient1 does not resolve; client1.domain.suffix does09:31
ryguysorry man, I just dunno09:31
techieMaxFrames, is this for the local network?09:32
MaxFramesyes, I'm trying to resolve local hostnames using a local dns server09:35
MaxFramesthe dns server is a windows 2003 one09:36
techieMaxFrames, have you tried client1.local09:40
techiei have a tiny bit of experience with 2k3 but none using it as a primary network server09:42
MaxFramesI've tried pretty much everything09:47
MaxFramesit's just ignoring the domain suffix search list09:47
MaxFramesI think the problem is client-side...09:47
techieMaxFrames, have you added the ip of the 2k3 DNS to your network configuration09:53
MaxFramessolved09:54
MaxFramesthe problem was that I had not specified any domain in the ubuntu box configuration09:55
techiehaha, easyt09:55
MaxFramesfor some weird reason, the search list is ignored if a domain name is not specified for the local machine09:55
avash1aa09:55
MaxFramesit works even if I specify a bogus domain09:55
techieisnt it odd how such small things can be such a big nuisance09:55
MaxFramesin short, the querying machine must "belong" to some domain before it can use a domain suffix search list09:56
MaxFrameswhich doesn't make much sense to me, but still...09:56
techiefor an internal network i would think it adds an extra security layer09:57
techiebut who knows09:57
avash1i am a batman, i managed my problem.... ya ...hooooooo09:58
Balsaq_techie gotta sec?09:58
techiesure bal09:58
MaxFrameswhat problem, avash1?09:59
Balsaq_played a youtube vid the sound came thru mt speaker great ...but the sound(song is over) and the video itslef still hasnt finished is lagging behind the sound09:59
Balsaq_even w98 could do that but it couldnt do much else10:00
techiesounds like your video card doesnt like rendering flash videos10:00
Balsaq_shoukd i have taken the gnome offering10:00
techiehuh?10:01
Balsaq_it gave me 3 choices...we decided on flash remember10:01
MaxFramesbbl10:02
avash1i had problem with my key board hardware problem10:02
Balsaq_you said you prefered the ones where people get paid10:02
techiemeh, doesnt really make much of a difference10:02
Balsaq_wow the vid just ended and the song was done 2 minutes ago10:02
techieonly because they were updated more frequently, not because they are more efficient10:02
Balsaq_might be my ole 8mb ati too10:03
techieoh yeah bal, i got some specs of my laptop10:03
Balsaq_maybe because i just now finished a zillion more upgrades and took 9.04?10:03
avash1i am notorious with hardwares.10:03
avash1i can repair many types, even the one i first handled10:04
techie400mhz G4 cpu, 640mb RAM, 8mb ATI Rage Mobility 2x AGP10:04
Balsaq_my w98 coulndt do anyhting right but iplayed these youtubers10:04
Balsaq_400 pII 768sdram pc133 8mb ati yup10:04
Balsaq_would some ram help er10:05
techieyours was 1998 wasnt it?10:05
Balsaq_yup10:05
techienah shes got more than enough10:05
techiemines 2k10:05
Balsaq_i may pop 3 sticks of 512 in her for a total of 1.5gig sdram10:06
Balsaq_dont know if that helps with this issue10:06
techiedont try it10:06
techieyour motherboard wont support it10:06
Balsaq_to dangerous?10:06
Balsaq_well my board wasnt supposed to take the 768 either10:07
Balsaq_supposed to be all done at 38410:07
Balsaq_noone knows unless you rad something?10:07
techieput it this way, yours in a 1998 board with a 400mhz cpu, mine is a recent board with a 2.8ghz cpu, and mine ahs a max of 2gig10:07
Balsaq_read*10:07
techieis*10:08
Balsaq_but some of the dell techs claim my board is a pwerhouse untested only because the new sticks werent around then some say what you say10:08
Balsaq_i think you are probably right and i just got lucky when i doubled what the book said10:09
techieontop of that, even if you could up it to 1.5gig you wouldnt be able to access it fast enough to use it all10:10
Balsaq_i played it agsain and the sound and video finished a little closer togeether only off by 10-15 seconds now but hey people are moving real stiff like10:10
techiewhen was the last time you rebooted your box?10:11
Balsaq_right after the install upgrade 904 told me too (moment ago)10:11
Balsaq_hit restart10:11
techieit might be 9.04 making it run sliggish10:11
Balsaq_i was nutz to take 90410:12
techiei noticed my lappy was a bit sluggish from a fresh install or 9.0410:12
techieof*10:12
Balsaq_it has never been the same since i took the original 349 upgrades on the 81010:12
Balsaq_810 runfaster for me clean woth no upgrades10:13
Balsaq_?10:13
Balsaq_who knows...old puter10:13
Balsaq_i can buy a new lapper tomprrow for 450 with amd athlon dual core 2.1 4g ram10:14
Balsaq_gateway lapper 15.6 in screen10:14
Balsaq_320 hd10:15
Balsaq_ati 3200 on board10:15
techie_ill be back soon, gonna load up windows so i can dl debian with my DL accelerator10:17
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Balsaqanyone on opera?11:35
Balsaqmy FF with 9.04 ubuntu is slow11:35
Sysiit isn't actually light software11:36
slow-motionhi12:16
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basajaunwhat is the command to get new release in synaptic? - something I have forgotten12:46
ablomenbasajaun, you mean update manager? should be update-manager -c12:52
ablomenor -d for development release12:52
basajaundoesn't work for me ablomen13:07
basajaunsorry it did work thanks ablomen13:14
premorphosis there any way to get irssi to play a sound when my name i written? i have tried schripts but odly they did not work14:14
ablomenpremorphos, http://vincentwang.wordpress.com/category/irssi/ << this might help, or look for your self at >> http://www.google.com/search?q=irssi+sound+notification14:32
Pres-GasHey, all.14:57
* likemindead groggily mutters, "Mornin'."14:58
Pres-GasI am just reviewing the Ubu weekly Newsletter #161 and wanting to see if Xubu is on the same track for the Beta release?14:58
knomePres-Gas, "same track" ?14:59
Pres-GasI was going to guess "yes" but then we are now starting to use some slightly different packages (i.e. GDM) for 9.10 I was not sure that was going to delay any release times.14:59
likemindeadSurely, it is. Always has been.14:59
knomePres-Gas, the gdm is same as in ubuntu15:00
Pres-Gasknome, cody-somerville wrote that we are using 2.20 for karmic https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2009-August/007032.html).15:05
Pres-Gas...unless this changed and I slept through that one?15:06
knomePres-Gas, i just confirmed this from him, we are using the same gdm as ubuntu15:08
knomethat mail is already a month old15:08
Pres-GasAhhh, cool if it all works.15:09
knomeyes, it works15:09
* likemindead is away: My second home is a third world cantina.15:38
premorphosablomen: tanx15:44
psynaptichttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Make%20your%20USB%20stick%20bootable%20with%20SYSLINUX17:31
psynapticis this relevant to xubuntu?17:31
psynapticall I want to do is install from usb stick17:32
Sysiyes17:32
psynapticthanks17:32
Sysii don't remember if that worked with alternate install but with normal it will17:32
psynapticwhat is the alternate install?17:37
Sysiwith text installer17:37
* likemindead is back (gone 02:03:50)17:42
Sysipublic away isn't that nice17:43
geniiSysi: likemindead has been given !away warnings a lot in different channels, they seem to be oblivious17:47
Sysiafter some bans..17:47
MadsRHKnome -> Now I am :-D17:53
knomeMadsRH, :)17:54
knomeMadsRH, #xubuntu-devel please :)17:54
MadsRHCheck!17:54
likemindeadDon't be so boorish genii & Sysi.17:55
knomelikemindead, i also really think you should get rid of those public away messages17:55
likemindeadHow is it any different from someone who says, "BBL." etc. and then leaves and then comes back and says, "I'm back! LOL!"17:56
likemindead?17:56
likemindeadI've never understood this secret IRC etiquette.17:56
Sysithats just irritating17:57
likemindeadThat's your opinion.17:57
Sysino one really wants to know17:57
likemindeadNo one's asking you to commit it to memory.17:57
Sysithats just dumb unneeded message17:57
likemindeadAs is this whole conversation.17:57
ldez1You guys are defiling my sacred CHAT ROOM!17:58
knomelikemindead, as it's automatic, it's not really "okay"17:58
Sysiit would be best if this isn't needed :)17:58
* SiDi hates auto away messages too...18:08
SiDiWhen you're on 10 channels with about 200 people, its boring to check your channels just to notice someone went to take a cup of coffee18:08
LappyUhm. I got a question about Wine on Xubuntu, can someone help me please,22:58
Lappy?22:58
TheSheepit doesn't work that way, you have to actually ask the question, and if anybody knows the answer, you will get it22:59
LappyOkay then22:59
Lappy:)22:59
LappyHere goes: Okay, so when you install something via Wine, it installs to the 'Other' menu in the Applications menu. Well, here's my23:00
LappyProblem23:00
LappyWhenever I try to remove something from the Other menu, by using the uninstall option all setup.exe files comes with, it doesn't uninstall. Now I am very VERY short on space. So, how do I get rid of them, I already tried deleting drive_c in the .wine but it didn't delete any of the files, help?23:01
LappyShould I just uninstall Wine from Add/Remove program?23:01
LappyAnd then re-install?23:01
techiei cant see why that wouldnt work23:02
TheSheepfirst of all, those are just menu entires, removing them wont give you much space23:02
techieand Lappy, always remember...23:02
LappyOkay, I'm going to try that now23:02
techie!ask23:02
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)23:02
TheSheepsecond, they are in .local/share/applications/wine23:02
stevexHave an old compaq desktop with 225Mhz processor, 4 gigs HD space, would xubuntu be ok?23:03
LappyOkay23:03
LappyI'll try that then23:03
floatingstevex: no23:03
stevexdamn, trying to find something to put on this oldy....23:03
floatingyou could wait for lubuntu23:04
techiemay i suggest puppy or DSL23:04
stevexTried DSL, hit enter to start install, goes to blank screen, I'm assuming doesn't support hardware?23:04
LappyTheSheep: If I delete the wine folder in .local/share/applications/wine, it'll be like uninstalling, right?23:05
techieim not sure, ive never tried linux on something with such low specs23:05
floatingyeah, or those.. although ur computer might work with lubuntu, which could be a nice choice... once it gets released first :/23:05
stevexIt shipped with Win9823:05
TheSheepLappy: no, it will delete the menu entries, but not the program files23:05
LappyOkay23:05
TheSheepLappy: it's like deleting the shortcut23:05
LappyOkay23:05
TheSheepLappy: but the programs surely asked where to install?23:06
floatingi had an installation problem with some xubuntu, so i downloaded the alternative cd and it worked23:06
LappyYeah23:07
LappyC:/Program Files/X23:07
TheSheepfloating: yeah, live cd has trouble on low-ram systems23:07
LappySo if I go to my c drive. Did that already23:07
LappyDeleted all of it23:07
TheSheepLappy: then it was in that drive_c directory23:07
TheSheepLappy: so you only have menu shortcuts left23:07
LappyOkay23:07
LappyI'd like to get rid of them23:08
LappyThere is quite literally like 6023:08
TheSheepLappy: they don't work anymore, do they?23:08
LappyNo, no they do not23:08
TheSheepLappy: well, you know where they are23:08
LappyUhm23:08
LappyLocal so on23:08
TheSheepyes23:08
LappyI can't seem to find local xD23:09
floatingstevex: this article shows that xubuntu is not for such systems http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7520/1.html23:09
stevexThank you floating, think I'm going to try puppy23:09
TheSheepLappy: it's .local23:09
TheSheepLappy: it's hidden23:10
LappyOkay23:10
LappySo I go to where then?23:10
floatingok, good luck23:10
Lappyin my home folder?23:10
TheSheepin thunar view->show hiden files23:10
TheSheepyes23:10
LappyOkay23:10
LappyThank you so much for the help :D23:10
LappyIt must be the packages I installed23:11
LappyThat's taking up so much space23:11
LappyThanks TheSheep :)23:11
TheSheepLappy: try 'sudo apt-get clean'23:11
LappyOkay?23:11
TheSheepLappy: that will clean apt's cache23:11
LappyOooo23:11
LappyOkay ;D23:11
LappyOkay. I cleaned it I guess23:12
TheSheep'df -h' shows free space23:12
Lappy14G - 20 used23:13
LappyGotta figure out what's cluttering it...23:13
TheSheepinstall gnome-utils and run 'baobab'23:14
TheSheepit's a very cool disk usage visualiser23:14
LappyOkay23:14
LappyWhere do I find the show hidden files button exactly23:15
LappySorry for the newbish questions, still new to Xubuntu/Linux23:15
LappyFound it23:15
LappyAlready showing23:16
LappyOkay23:18
LappyDeleted the file but shortcuts are still there23:18
LappyRestart my system?23:18
TheSheepLappy: n need23:20
TheSheepno need23:20
LappyHmm23:20
TheSheepdelete .cache/xfce4/desktop/23:20
LappyShortcuts in the 'Other' menu are still thee though23:20
LappyOh okay23:20
LappyHuh23:24
LappyI don't have the xfce423:24
LappyIt's .cache23:24
LappyThen I have Rhthym Box, sessions, Thunar, and Totem23:24
LappyOkay downloading Disk Usage Analyzer23:25
LappyIs this pretty much the same as Windows Disk Defragmenter? Is there something similar?23:26
LappyWWWHHHOOAA! Sorry for the caps, but it deserves it23:28
LappyThe other menu is gone!23:28
LappyThank you so very much TheSheep !23:28
knomeLappy, linux doesn't really need defragmenting23:29
LappyOkay23:30
LappyAlso, I installed Disk Analyzer, but where would it be in the menus?23:30
knomemaybe system23:30
LappyOkay23:31
LappyLooking there23:31
LappyNope23:31
LappyNothing named 'Disk Analyzer'23:32
knomedisk usage analyzer basically tells you how much space you have used23:32
LappyYeah23:32
Lappy... I found the problem...23:32
knome? :)23:32
TheSheepit may be hidden in menus23:33
LappyI was using a downloading tool to get parts of a file like 5 GB big23:33
LappyThat's where all my space went xD23:33
TheSheeptry [ressing alt+f2 and typing 'baobab'23:33
LappyThe parts = 5GB and the file unzipped = 6GB23:33
LappyThat's where it went :P23:33
LappyThere we go23:34
LappyNow only 3.4 GB used23:35
LappyNow one more problem. Xubuntu isn't detecting my 8.4GB hard drive? Where is it?23:35
knometry looking in /media23:36
LappyOkay23:36
LappyCDROM CDROM0 floppy floppy .Hal-mtab23:37
knomemmh23:37
LappyCDROM and floppy are shortcuts23:37
LappyMaybe my hard drive was set up improperly?23:38
LappyJumpers may have something to do with it maybe?23:38
knome!drives | Lappy23:38
ubottuLappy: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions23:38
LappyNo fstab in etc...23:39
knomeo.O23:39
LappyThat means?23:40
knomei'm surprised23:40
LappyWhy?23:41
knomebecause you should have fstab23:41
knomewhich xubuntu do you have?23:41
Lappyfirefox-3.0 fonts foomatic23:41
LappyThat's all the F files23:41
LappyShould I take the hard drive out and reconfigure the jumpers?23:42
knomeno, you should find you fstab file23:42
knomepress alt+f2 and run 'gksudo mousepad /etc/fstab'23:42
LappyOkay23:42
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LappyI'm uploading a screen cap. One sec23:43
LappyHttp://i33.tinypic.com/2woivd2.png23:44
LappyThere23:45
LappyI'll get a better full size one sec23:45
knomeokay, that looks better23:45
knomeyou don't need to23:45
LappyOkay23:45
knomenow see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab23:45
knome" To list your devices by UUID use blkid "23:46
knomeso open terminal and type blkid23:46
knomethen use pastebin to paste the output23:46
knome!pastebin | Lappy23:46
ubottuLappy: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic23:46
LappyOkay. I'll log in using my comp rather than my ipod23:47
LappyBe right back23:47
knomeokay :)23:47
LppOkay, one sec23:48
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benchikhello23:48
benchikhow can i know how much mem my xubuntu consumes? cause what i see with "free" also counts cached mem23:48
knome!hi | benchik23:48
ubottubenchik: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!23:48
knomebenchik, where are you looking?23:48
Lappyhttp://pastebin.com/d6b117f2723:49
Lappythere23:49
knomeLappy, okay, i suppose the hard drive is installed incorrectly. do you have an older computer?23:49
LappyYeah23:50
LappyIt's pretty old23:50
knomeokay23:50
knomeyou should double-check the jumpers and cables23:50
knomexubuntu basically should detect it automatically.23:51
LappyYes, I'll go take it apart again and take a look23:51
knomeokay. i'm not sure if i will be here when you come back but i hope someone can help you23:51
knomegood luck :)23:51
LappyOkay23:51
LappyThank you for all the help :D23:52
Lappy23:52
LappyOff I go to fix it23:52
knomeno problem :)23:52
* Lappy turns off computer23:52
LappyBye23:52
LappyI won't be that long23:52
knomesee you23:52
Lappymaybe 20-30 min23:52
=== Xperiment62 is now known as Techie62

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