[01:48] <GSF1200S_> is there a way to bind the menu that occurs when the the middle button is clicked on the desktop to a keyboard shortcut?
[04:15] <mikubuntu> i wonder why i cant get vids from www.abc.go.com to play, keep gettg message that 'this platform' not supported and to use ie, firefox or safari, but i am using firefox .. anybody know what the problem might be?
[04:57] <likemindead> mikubuntu, some proprietary nonsense, I'd assume. :-\
[05:00] <mikubuntu> prolly
[05:36] <likemindead> G'nite.
[08:29] <SineDeviance> hi all. i have just installed xubuntu 9.04 amd64. i installed some icon themes from xfce-look.org but when i use those themes half the icons seem to be missing. those icons revert to the default icon theme
[08:29] <SineDeviance> what gives?
[08:38] <SineDeviance> anybody?
[08:39] <ryguy> hey
[08:39] <ryguy> whats up
[08:40] <SineDeviance> hey
[08:40] <SineDeviance> sup
[08:40] <ryguy> chillin, codin
[08:41] <SineDeviance> ah
[08:41] <SineDeviance> im trying to figure out icon theme madness
[08:41] <SineDeviance> apparently xfce4.4 > 4.6 broke something with all icon themes except the default
[08:42] <ryguy> =s I dunno, I only use the default theme
[09:16] <avash1> knock kcock anybody there?
[09:16] <avash1> i have a problem, can anyone help me?
[09:17] <avash1> nobody there very bad.
[09:17] <avash1> why i snobody here?
[09:19] <avash1> Legendre: can you help me?
[09:19] <avash1> KingOfDos: can you helpo me?
[09:19] <ryguy> ello
[09:19] <avash1> mikubuntu: can you help me?
[09:19] <avash1> ryguy: can you help me?
[09:20] <ryguy> lol If I knew your problem..
[09:20] <avash1> i used to have dual booting, xp and ubuntu. it went nice. but recently i had to remove ubuntu, and when i again installed it, ther comes error sying Error 15\; file not found.
[09:20] <avash1> of cource after booting to ubuntu
[09:20] <avash1> in GRUB
[09:20] <ryguy> did you do extensive google searching on the error?
[09:21] <avash1> it was no fruitful
[09:21] <ryguy> did you try editing that file (I forget which on it was) in widows that allows you to dual boot?
[09:21] <ryguy> I dont know much about dual booting linux and windows
[09:22] <avash1> no. because thats not what the problem is. hte problem is with ubuntu itself
[09:23] <ryguy> what version ubuntu
[09:24] <avash1> baed on hardy
[09:24] <ryguy> try installing jaunty or karmic
[09:24] <ryguy> karmic has an updated version of grub
[09:24] <MaxFrames> hi
[09:24] <ryguy> hey
[09:25] <avash1> everybody suggests jaunty.
[09:25] <ryguy> karmic is still in development, thats why
[09:25] <avash1> i will try that.
[09:25] <ablomen> avash1, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows << try this guide, it isnt the same senario but it does fix grub
[09:25] <knome> karmic will be officially out in one month
[09:25] <MaxFrames> I am unable to resolve "short" hostnames (like "client1") from a xubuntu box, I have to specify the FQDN (like "client1.domain.local") even though I have added the "domain.local" suffix to the search list in resolv.conf
[09:25] <MaxFrames> can you help me?
[09:26] <avash1> do you know if dual booting is good or not? the othere day i met a girl, she said dual booting is very problamatic.
[09:26] <ryguy> its not bad, really.
[09:26] <MaxFrames> "give her the boot" :P
[09:27] <ryguy> lol
[09:27] <avash1> "give her the boot" :P what does that amean
[09:27]  * ryguy facepalms
[09:28] <MaxFrames> a joke
[09:28] <avash1> real meaning of that joke?
[09:28] <MaxFrames> "to give the boot" = "to fire, to dismiss, to get rid of"
[09:28] <ryguy> buy her a box of chocolates and some flowers
[09:29] <avash1> taht doesnot sound like a joke
[09:29] <ryguy> avashi, english isnt your first language, is it?
[09:30] <avash1> i am a nepalese
[09:30] <ryguy> I see
[09:30] <MaxFrames> anyway... can you help me figuring out that dns issue?
[09:30] <ryguy> I dont fully understand your problem
[09:30] <MaxFrames> the search domain suffix list does not seem to work
[09:31] <avash1> i cant because i am a xo user. i have just started ubuntu
[09:31] <MaxFrames> I can't resolve a hostname if I don't add the domain suffix manually
[09:31] <MaxFrames> client1 does not resolve; client1.domain.suffix does
[09:31] <ryguy> sorry man, I just dunno
[09:32] <techie> MaxFrames, is this for the local network?
[09:35] <MaxFrames> yes, I'm trying to resolve local hostnames using a local dns server
[09:36] <MaxFrames> the dns server is a windows 2003 one
[09:40] <techie> MaxFrames, have you tried client1.local
[09:42] <techie> i have a tiny bit of experience with 2k3 but none using it as a primary network server
[09:47] <MaxFrames> I've tried pretty much everything
[09:47] <MaxFrames> it's just ignoring the domain suffix search list
[09:47] <MaxFrames> I think the problem is client-side...
[09:53] <techie> MaxFrames, have you added the ip of the 2k3 DNS to your network configuration
[09:54] <MaxFrames> solved
[09:55] <MaxFrames> the problem was that I had not specified any domain in the ubuntu box configuration
[09:55] <techie> haha, easyt
[09:55] <MaxFrames> for some weird reason, the search list is ignored if a domain name is not specified for the local machine
[09:55] <avash1> aa
[09:55] <MaxFrames> it works even if I specify a bogus domain
[09:55] <techie> isnt it odd how such small things can be such a big nuisance
[09:56] <MaxFrames> in short, the querying machine must "belong" to some domain before it can use a domain suffix search list
[09:56] <MaxFrames> which doesn't make much sense to me, but still...
[09:57] <techie> for an internal network i would think it adds an extra security layer
[09:57] <techie> but who knows
[09:58] <avash1> i am a batman, i managed my problem.... ya ...hooooooo
[09:58] <Balsaq_> techie gotta sec?
[09:58] <techie> sure bal
[09:59] <MaxFrames> what problem, avash1?
[09:59] <Balsaq_> played a youtube vid the sound came thru mt speaker great ...but the sound(song is over) and the video itslef still hasnt finished is lagging behind the sound
[10:00] <Balsaq_> even w98 could do that but it couldnt do much else
[10:00] <techie> sounds like your video card doesnt like rendering flash videos
[10:00] <Balsaq_> shoukd i have taken the gnome offering
[10:01] <techie> huh?
[10:01] <Balsaq_> it gave me 3 choices...we decided on flash remember
[10:02] <MaxFrames> bbl
[10:02] <avash1> i had problem with my key board hardware problem
[10:02] <Balsaq_> you said you prefered the ones where people get paid
[10:02] <techie> meh, doesnt really make much of a difference
[10:02] <Balsaq_> wow the vid just ended and the song was done 2 minutes ago
[10:02] <techie> only because they were updated more frequently, not because they are more efficient
[10:03] <Balsaq_> might be my ole 8mb ati too
[10:03] <techie> oh yeah bal, i got some specs of my laptop
[10:03] <Balsaq_> maybe because i just now finished a zillion more upgrades and took 9.04?
[10:03] <avash1> i am notorious with hardwares.
[10:04] <avash1> i can repair many types, even the one i first handled
[10:04] <techie> 400mhz G4 cpu, 640mb RAM, 8mb ATI Rage Mobility 2x AGP
[10:04] <Balsaq_> my w98 coulndt do anyhting right but iplayed these youtubers
[10:04] <Balsaq_> 400 pII 768sdram pc133 8mb ati yup
[10:05] <Balsaq_> would some ram help er
[10:05] <techie> yours was 1998 wasnt it?
[10:05] <Balsaq_> yup
[10:05] <techie> nah shes got more than enough
[10:05] <techie> mines 2k
[10:06] <Balsaq_> i may pop 3 sticks of 512 in her for a total of 1.5gig sdram
[10:06] <Balsaq_> dont know if that helps with this issue
[10:06] <techie> dont try it
[10:06] <techie> your motherboard wont support it
[10:06] <Balsaq_> to dangerous?
[10:07] <Balsaq_> well my board wasnt supposed to take the 768 either
[10:07] <Balsaq_> supposed to be all done at 384
[10:07] <Balsaq_> noone knows unless you rad something?
[10:07] <techie> put it this way, yours in a 1998 board with a 400mhz cpu, mine is a recent board with a 2.8ghz cpu, and mine ahs a max of 2gig
[10:07] <Balsaq_> read*
[10:08] <techie> is*
[10:08] <Balsaq_> but some of the dell techs claim my board is a pwerhouse untested only because the new sticks werent around then some say what you say
[10:09] <Balsaq_> i think you are probably right and i just got lucky when i doubled what the book said
[10:10] <techie> ontop of that, even if you could up it to 1.5gig you wouldnt be able to access it fast enough to use it all
[10:10] <Balsaq_> i played it agsain and the sound and video finished a little closer togeether only off by 10-15 seconds now but hey people are moving real stiff like
[10:11] <techie> when was the last time you rebooted your box?
[10:11] <Balsaq_> right after the install upgrade 904 told me too (moment ago)
[10:11] <Balsaq_> hit restart
[10:11] <techie> it might be 9.04 making it run sliggish
[10:12] <Balsaq_> i was nutz to take 904
[10:12] <techie> i noticed my lappy was a bit sluggish from a fresh install or 9.04
[10:12] <techie> of*
[10:12] <Balsaq_> it has never been the same since i took the original 349 upgrades on the 810
[10:13] <Balsaq_> 810 runfaster for me clean woth no upgrades
[10:13] <Balsaq_> ?
[10:13] <Balsaq_> who knows...old puter
[10:14] <Balsaq_> i can buy a new lapper tomprrow for 450 with amd athlon dual core 2.1 4g ram
[10:14] <Balsaq_> gateway lapper 15.6 in screen
[10:15] <Balsaq_> 320 hd
[10:15] <Balsaq_> ati 3200 on board
[10:17] <techie_> ill be back soon, gonna load up windows so i can dl debian with my DL accelerator
[11:35] <Balsaq> anyone on opera?
[11:35] <Balsaq> my FF with 9.04 ubuntu is slow
[11:36] <Sysi> it isn't actually light software
[12:16] <slow-motion> hi
[12:46] <basajaun> what is the command to get new release in synaptic? - something I have forgotten
[12:52] <ablomen> basajaun, you mean update manager? should be update-manager -c
[12:52] <ablomen> or -d for development release
[13:07] <basajaun> doesn't work for me ablomen
[13:14] <basajaun> sorry it did work thanks ablomen
[14:14] <premorphos> is there any way to get irssi to play a sound when my name i written? i have tried schripts but odly they did not work
[14:32] <ablomen> premorphos, http://vincentwang.wordpress.com/category/irssi/ << this might help, or look for your self at >> http://www.google.com/search?q=irssi+sound+notification
[14:57] <Pres-Gas> Hey, all.
[14:58]  * likemindead groggily mutters, "Mornin'."
[14:58] <Pres-Gas> I am just reviewing the Ubu weekly Newsletter #161 and wanting to see if Xubu is on the same track for the Beta release?
[14:59] <knome> Pres-Gas, "same track" ?
[14:59] <Pres-Gas> I was going to guess "yes" but then we are now starting to use some slightly different packages (i.e. GDM) for 9.10 I was not sure that was going to delay any release times.
[14:59] <likemindead> Surely, it is. Always has been.
[15:00] <knome> Pres-Gas, the gdm is same as in ubuntu
[15:05] <Pres-Gas> knome, cody-somerville wrote that we are using 2.20 for karmic https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2009-August/007032.html).
[15:06] <Pres-Gas> ...unless this changed and I slept through that one?
[15:08] <knome> Pres-Gas, i just confirmed this from him, we are using the same gdm as ubuntu
[15:08] <knome> that mail is already a month old
[15:09] <Pres-Gas> Ahhh, cool if it all works.
[15:09] <knome> yes, it works
[15:38]  * likemindead is away: My second home is a third world cantina.
[15:44] <premorphos> ablomen: tanx
[17:31] <psynaptic> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick#Make%20your%20USB%20stick%20bootable%20with%20SYSLINUX
[17:31] <psynaptic> is this relevant to xubuntu?
[17:32] <psynaptic> all I want to do is install from usb stick
[17:32] <Sysi> yes
[17:32] <psynaptic> thanks
[17:32] <Sysi> i don't remember if that worked with alternate install but with normal it will
[17:37] <psynaptic> what is the alternate install?
[17:37] <Sysi> with text installer
[17:42]  * likemindead is back (gone 02:03:50)
[17:43] <Sysi> public away isn't that nice
[17:47] <genii> Sysi: likemindead has been given !away warnings a lot in different channels, they seem to be oblivious
[17:47] <Sysi> after some bans..
[17:53] <MadsRH> Knome -> Now I am :-D
[17:54] <knome> MadsRH, :)
[17:54] <knome> MadsRH, #xubuntu-devel please :)
[17:54] <MadsRH> Check!
[17:55] <likemindead> Don't be so boorish genii & Sysi.
[17:55] <knome> likemindead, i also really think you should get rid of those public away messages
[17:56] <likemindead> How is it any different from someone who says, "BBL." etc. and then leaves and then comes back and says, "I'm back! LOL!"
[17:56] <likemindead> ?
[17:56] <likemindead> I've never understood this secret IRC etiquette.
[17:57] <Sysi> thats just irritating
[17:57] <likemindead> That's your opinion.
[17:57] <Sysi> no one really wants to know
[17:57] <likemindead> No one's asking you to commit it to memory.
[17:57] <Sysi> thats just dumb unneeded message
[17:57] <likemindead> As is this whole conversation.
[17:58] <ldez1> You guys are defiling my sacred CHAT ROOM!
[17:58] <knome> likemindead, as it's automatic, it's not really "okay"
[17:58] <Sysi> it would be best if this isn't needed :)
[18:08]  * SiDi hates auto away messages too...
[18:08] <SiDi> When you're on 10 channels with about 200 people, its boring to check your channels just to notice someone went to take a cup of coffee
[22:58] <Lappy> Uhm. I got a question about Wine on Xubuntu, can someone help me please,
[22:58] <Lappy> ?
[22:59] <TheSheep> it doesn't work that way, you have to actually ask the question, and if anybody knows the answer, you will get it
[22:59] <Lappy> Okay then
[22:59] <Lappy> :)
[23:00] <Lappy> Here goes: Okay, so when you install something via Wine, it installs to the 'Other' menu in the Applications menu. Well, here's my
[23:00] <Lappy> Problem
[23:01] <Lappy> Whenever I try to remove something from the Other menu, by using the uninstall option all setup.exe files comes with, it doesn't uninstall. Now I am very VERY short on space. So, how do I get rid of them, I already tried deleting drive_c in the .wine but it didn't delete any of the files, help?
[23:01] <Lappy> Should I just uninstall Wine from Add/Remove program?
[23:01] <Lappy> And then re-install?
[23:02] <techie> i cant see why that wouldnt work
[23:02] <TheSheep> first of all, those are just menu entires, removing them wont give you much space
[23:02] <techie> and Lappy, always remember...
[23:02] <Lappy> Okay, I'm going to try that now
[23:02] <techie> !ask
[23:02] <TheSheep> second, they are in .local/share/applications/wine
[23:03] <stevex> Have an old compaq desktop with 225Mhz processor, 4 gigs HD space, would xubuntu be ok?
[23:03] <Lappy> Okay
[23:03] <Lappy> I'll try that then
[23:03] <floating> stevex: no
[23:03] <stevex> damn, trying to find something to put on this oldy....
[23:04] <floating> you could wait for lubuntu
[23:04] <techie> may i suggest puppy or DSL
[23:04] <stevex> Tried DSL, hit enter to start install, goes to blank screen, I'm assuming doesn't support hardware?
[23:05] <Lappy> TheSheep: If I delete the wine folder in .local/share/applications/wine, it'll be like uninstalling, right?
[23:05] <techie> im not sure, ive never tried linux on something with such low specs
[23:05] <floating> yeah, or those.. although ur computer might work with lubuntu, which could be a nice choice... once it gets released first :/
[23:05] <stevex> It shipped with Win98
[23:05] <TheSheep> Lappy: no, it will delete the menu entries, but not the program files
[23:05] <Lappy> Okay
[23:05] <TheSheep> Lappy: it's like deleting the shortcut
[23:05] <Lappy> Okay
[23:06] <TheSheep> Lappy: but the programs surely asked where to install?
[23:06] <floating> i had an installation problem with some xubuntu, so i downloaded the alternative cd and it worked
[23:07] <Lappy> Yeah
[23:07] <Lappy> C:/Program Files/X
[23:07] <TheSheep> floating: yeah, live cd has trouble on low-ram systems
[23:07] <Lappy> So if I go to my c drive. Did that already
[23:07] <Lappy> Deleted all of it
[23:07] <TheSheep> Lappy: then it was in that drive_c directory
[23:07] <TheSheep> Lappy: so you only have menu shortcuts left
[23:07] <Lappy> Okay
[23:08] <Lappy> I'd like to get rid of them
[23:08] <Lappy> There is quite literally like 60
[23:08] <TheSheep> Lappy: they don't work anymore, do they?
[23:08] <Lappy> No, no they do not
[23:08] <TheSheep> Lappy: well, you know where they are
[23:08] <Lappy> Uhm
[23:08] <Lappy> Local so on
[23:08] <TheSheep> yes
[23:09] <Lappy> I can't seem to find local xD
[23:09] <floating> stevex: this article shows that xubuntu is not for such systems http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7520/1.html
[23:09] <stevex> Thank you floating, think I'm going to try puppy
[23:09] <TheSheep> Lappy: it's .local
[23:10] <TheSheep> Lappy: it's hidden
[23:10] <Lappy> Okay
[23:10] <Lappy> So I go to where then?
[23:10] <floating> ok, good luck
[23:10] <Lappy> in my home folder?
[23:10] <TheSheep> in thunar view->show hiden files
[23:10] <TheSheep> yes
[23:10] <Lappy> Okay
[23:10] <Lappy> Thank you so much for the help :D
[23:11] <Lappy> It must be the packages I installed
[23:11] <Lappy> That's taking up so much space
[23:11] <Lappy> Thanks TheSheep :)
[23:11] <TheSheep> Lappy: try 'sudo apt-get clean'
[23:11] <Lappy> Okay?
[23:11] <TheSheep> Lappy: that will clean apt's cache
[23:11] <Lappy> Oooo
[23:11] <Lappy> Okay ;D
[23:12] <Lappy> Okay. I cleaned it I guess
[23:12] <TheSheep> 'df -h' shows free space
[23:13] <Lappy> 14G - 20 used
[23:13] <Lappy> Gotta figure out what's cluttering it...
[23:14] <TheSheep> install gnome-utils and run 'baobab'
[23:14] <TheSheep> it's a very cool disk usage visualiser
[23:14] <Lappy> Okay
[23:15] <Lappy> Where do I find the show hidden files button exactly
[23:15] <Lappy> Sorry for the newbish questions, still new to Xubuntu/Linux
[23:15] <Lappy> Found it
[23:16] <Lappy> Already showing
[23:18] <Lappy> Okay
[23:18] <Lappy> Deleted the file but shortcuts are still there
[23:18] <Lappy> Restart my system?
[23:20] <TheSheep> Lappy: n need
[23:20] <TheSheep> no need
[23:20] <Lappy> Hmm
[23:20] <TheSheep> delete .cache/xfce4/desktop/
[23:20] <Lappy> Shortcuts in the 'Other' menu are still thee though
[23:20] <Lappy> Oh okay
[23:24] <Lappy> Huh
[23:24] <Lappy> I don't have the xfce4
[23:24] <Lappy> It's .cache
[23:24] <Lappy> Then I have Rhthym Box, sessions, Thunar, and Totem
[23:25] <Lappy> Okay downloading Disk Usage Analyzer
[23:26] <Lappy> Is this pretty much the same as Windows Disk Defragmenter? Is there something similar?
[23:28] <Lappy> WWWHHHOOAA! Sorry for the caps, but it deserves it
[23:28] <Lappy> The other menu is gone!
[23:28] <Lappy> Thank you so very much TheSheep !
[23:29] <knome> Lappy, linux doesn't really need defragmenting
[23:30] <Lappy> Okay
[23:30] <Lappy> Also, I installed Disk Analyzer, but where would it be in the menus?
[23:30] <knome> maybe system
[23:31] <Lappy> Okay
[23:31] <Lappy> Looking there
[23:31] <Lappy> Nope
[23:32] <Lappy> Nothing named 'Disk Analyzer'
[23:32] <knome> disk usage analyzer basically tells you how much space you have used
[23:32] <Lappy> Yeah
[23:32] <Lappy> ... I found the problem...
[23:32] <knome> ? :)
[23:33] <TheSheep> it may be hidden in menus
[23:33] <Lappy> I was using a downloading tool to get parts of a file like 5 GB big
[23:33] <Lappy> That's where all my space went xD
[23:33] <TheSheep> try [ressing alt+f2 and typing 'baobab'
[23:33] <Lappy> The parts = 5GB and the file unzipped = 6GB
[23:33] <Lappy> That's where it went :P
[23:34] <Lappy> There we go
[23:35] <Lappy> Now only 3.4 GB used
[23:35] <Lappy> Now one more problem. Xubuntu isn't detecting my 8.4GB hard drive? Where is it?
[23:36] <knome> try looking in /media
[23:36] <Lappy> Okay
[23:37] <Lappy> CDROM CDROM0 floppy floppy .Hal-mtab
[23:37] <knome> mmh
[23:37] <Lappy> CDROM and floppy are shortcuts
[23:38] <Lappy> Maybe my hard drive was set up improperly?
[23:38] <Lappy> Jumpers may have something to do with it maybe?
[23:38] <knome> !drives | Lappy
[23:39] <Lappy> No fstab in etc...
[23:39] <knome> o.O
[23:40] <Lappy> That means?
[23:40] <knome> i'm surprised
[23:41] <Lappy> Why?
[23:41] <knome> because you should have fstab
[23:41] <knome> which xubuntu do you have?
[23:41] <Lappy> firefox-3.0 fonts foomatic
[23:41] <Lappy> That's all the F files
[23:42] <Lappy> Should I take the hard drive out and reconfigure the jumpers?
[23:42] <knome> no, you should find you fstab file
[23:42] <knome> press alt+f2 and run 'gksudo mousepad /etc/fstab'
[23:42] <Lappy> Okay
[23:43] <Lappy> I'm uploading a screen cap. One sec
[23:44] <Lappy> Http://i33.tinypic.com/2woivd2.png
[23:45] <Lappy> There
[23:45] <Lappy> I'll get a better full size one sec
[23:45] <knome> okay, that looks better
[23:45] <knome> you don't need to
[23:45] <Lappy> Okay
[23:45] <knome> now see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[23:46] <knome> " To list your devices by UUID use blkid "
[23:46] <knome> so open terminal and type blkid
[23:46] <knome> then use pastebin to paste the output
[23:46] <knome> !pastebin | Lappy
[23:47] <Lappy> Okay. I'll log in using my comp rather than my ipod
[23:47] <Lappy> Be right back
[23:47] <knome> okay :)
[23:48] <Lpp> Okay, one sec
[23:48] <benchik> hello
[23:48] <benchik> how can i know how much mem my xubuntu consumes? cause what i see with "free" also counts cached mem
[23:48] <knome> !hi | benchik
[23:48] <knome> benchik, where are you looking?
[23:49] <Lappy> http://pastebin.com/d6b117f27
[23:49] <Lappy> there
[23:49] <knome> Lappy, okay, i suppose the hard drive is installed incorrectly. do you have an older computer?
[23:50] <Lappy> Yeah
[23:50] <Lappy> It's pretty old
[23:50] <knome> okay
[23:50] <knome> you should double-check the jumpers and cables
[23:51] <knome> xubuntu basically should detect it automatically.
[23:51] <Lappy> Yes, I'll go take it apart again and take a look
[23:51] <knome> okay. i'm not sure if i will be here when you come back but i hope someone can help you
[23:51] <knome> good luck :)
[23:51] <Lappy> Okay
[23:52] <Lappy> Thank you for all the help :D
[23:52] <Lappy> 
[23:52] <Lappy> Off I go to fix it
[23:52] <knome> no problem :)
[23:52]  * Lappy turns off computer
[23:52] <Lappy> Bye
[23:52] <Lappy> I won't be that long
[23:52] <knome> see you
[23:52] <Lappy> maybe 20-30 min