[12:11]  * MacSlow -> lunch
[16:14] <SiDi> MacSlow: hi there. Is there anything i can do to help you debug lp 433423 ? 
[16:14] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 433423 in notify-osd "Bubble shadows don't get drawn correctly when enabling transparency" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/433423
[16:15] <MacSlow> SiDi, track down the race-condition, which I believe it causing this
[16:15] <MacSlow> SiDi, e.g. on my system I get this very very rarely
[16:15] <MacSlow> SiDi, but then... I hardly switch back and forth between composited and non-composited desktop
[16:15] <SiDi> it happens 100% of the time for me when i enable the transparency while a bubble is displayed
[16:15] <SiDi> (i do because of gimp :P)
[16:16] <MacSlow> gimp being the reason for switch back and forth
[16:16] <MacSlow> odd :)
[16:16] <SiDi> Could it come from the XFCE compositor's implementation ?
[16:16] <MacSlow> maybe
[16:16] <SiDi> Yeah, because i dont want transparency _at all_ when i have a gimp window opened... and of course if i click the tools window then the main one goes insensitive and thus transparent :p
[16:16] <MacSlow> with metacity+compositor it only happen sometimes
[16:17] <SiDi> Is the shadow the first thing being drawn ?
[16:17] <MacSlow> sounds like you've an odd compositor :)
[16:17] <MacSlow> yup
[16:17] <MacSlow> but it looks like the rgba-nature of the window is not in place at the riht time
[16:18] <MacSlow> since the whole window-rectangle is "black/opaque"
[16:18] <MacSlow> it's not just the shadow
[16:18] <MacSlow> otherwise the bubble would be at least transparent
[16:18] <MacSlow> but in your screenshot it's not
[16:18] <SiDi> you're right
[16:19] <MacSlow> my gut feeling is that this is a compositor issue
[16:19] <SiDi> could it be that it takes some time for the compositor to be able to draw rgba stuff ?
[16:19] <MacSlow> since I've hooked up all signals (and approriate actions)
[16:19] <MacSlow> maybe... I've never written a compositor
[16:19] <MacSlow> e.g. just watch how long it takes compiz to redirect all windows
[16:20] <MacSlow> (but that's mainly due to uploading stuff to the GL-card I think)
[16:21] <SiDi> ill ping the xfce guys and ask them their point of view about that then
[16:21] <SiDi> then i'll let you know :)
[17:25] <DBO> davidbarth, got a moment?
[21:21] <MDC1> hi all, would anyone help with the wording in a warning dialog?
[21:24] <MDC1> what would the warning text be in this dialog from this bug; https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/429041
[21:24] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 429041 in nautilus "should ask confirmation before opening a multiple items selection" [Low,Triaged] 
[21:25] <MDC1> My suggestion is "Open multiple files" (as headline) and "You have choosen to open %i files, are you sure you want to proceed?" as message, with option to Proceed and Cancel
[21:27] <MDC1> also, what should the trigger limit be? more than 20 files?
[21:27] <MDC1> mac_v, ^?
[21:29] <mac_v> MDC1: the regarding the limit , it is tricky ;) depend on file type/cpu/other processes running
[21:30] <mac_v> so there can be no easy solution for that bug ;)
[21:30] <MDC1> mac_v, well, this should only be a warning - you can always proceed..
[21:31] <MDC1> mac_v, just to not kill the system with opening 1000 files...
[21:31] <mac_v> ;)
[21:31] <MDC1> s/with/by/
[21:31] <MDC1> and few people (i know) actually open more than 20 files at the same time
[21:33] <MDC1> mac_v, and the ones (probably less than 2%) that often open more than 20 files could probably live with the dialog because it will save the poor man who just did ctrl + a, enter in his image collection..
[21:34] <MDC1> mac_v, should i change to 15? 25? and about the wording? any comments?
[21:34] <mac_v> MDC1: IMO , it should not ask for proceed.. but rather just say , too many files have been selected  , this will affect the performance of the system... or something of the sort
[21:34]  * mac_v  a bit sleepy now ... not able to think straight ;)
[21:34] <MDC1> mac_v, i suck at wording :) hence i'm here
[21:34] <MDC1> hehe, sure .. me too
[21:36] <MDC1> mac_v, also i'd not like to scare the user too much either as for example totem handles things just great with multiple files...
[21:39] <mac_v> MDC1: i dont think that warning , is sufficient... it needs to be a bit more specific about file types.... for example selecting 30 txt wont bog down the system , but 5 video files might ... so , i'm not sure that a warning or a limit is sufficient
[21:39] <mac_v> lol! i'm repeating my lines 
[21:41] <MDC1> mac_v, but that would require knowledge about the applications that handles the files - eg on my system opening 5 video files works just fine, but 10 txt files could kill the system because i open each of them in an instance of eclipse (no, i don't, it's just an example ;-) )
[21:41] <MDC1> mac_v, so i only think a static limit is possible
[21:42] <mac_v>  hm... not sure... 
[21:45] <mac_v> MDC1: or you could use the warning only when ctrl+a is used ;)
[21:45] <jonian_g> hi all
[21:46] <MDC1> mac_v, hmm.. accidently selecting a bunch of files in list view 33% and then hitting enter could also put the system in danger..
[21:46] <jonian_g> mac_v: are we allowed to fix the ubuntu one icons
[21:46] <jonian_g> ?
[21:46] <mac_v> jonian_g: lol , i dont think so
[21:47] <mac_v> jonian_g: the U1 team gave it and said add it to the theme , so it must have been pre-approved
[21:47] <mac_v> jonian_g: i noticed a few things to fix too but , didnt touch them :)
[21:47] <jonian_g> mac_v: the emblem-ubuntuone-updating.svg has a gap in the middle
[21:47] <mac_v> yeah , i noticed ;)
[21:48] <jonian_g> it can be fixed using a mask for the fade effect
[21:48] <jonian_g> can't we fix that?
[21:48] <jonian_g> can't we ask someone?
[21:48] <mac_v> jonian_g: hehe , OCD , huh?
[21:48] <mac_v> ;)
[21:49] <jonian_g> what is OCD ? :)
[21:49] <mac_v> jonian_g: you'll probably kill me if i expand it ;)
[21:50] <mac_v> jonian_g: btw , the network icon , you just edited. the colors in the sizes dont match
[21:51] <jonian_g> really?
[21:51] <mac_v> i had used orange , in all sizes
[21:51] <mac_v> jblount: but you have changed it to a different shade , so it needs to be edited in all sizes accordingly :)
[21:51] <jonian_g> I put green, because printer and server icons have that color
[21:51] <mac_v> oops!
[21:51] <mac_v> jonian_g: ^
[21:52] <mac_v> jonian_g: lol , i changed because those had green... changing the color is not a problem ... but the others hadnt been edited too ;)
[21:53] <mac_v> so if 1 is changed  , editing all would be nice :)
[21:53] <jonian_g> yep, I'll do it
[21:55] <mac_v> MDC1: as i said.. the solution is not as simple as providing a warning , its a workaround... i had a gedit crash because i opened a single 300mb file! ... so it depends on several factors... 
[21:55] <jonian_g> mac_v: now I saw that I missed the 22px icon
[21:55] <jonian_g> :P
[21:55] <mac_v> jonian_g: also 64px 
[21:56] <jonian_g> duh
[21:56] <mac_v> ;)
[21:56] <MDC1> mac_v, of course, but if we can catch a few human mistakes i'd say that's good enough until we have real AI
[21:58] <jonian_g> is kwwii here?
[21:58] <mac_v> jonian_g: -artwork
[21:58] <mac_v> MDC1: if it was me trying to solve this i would think about asking mpt for a solution first ;)
[21:59] <jonian_g> mac_v:ty
[21:59] <mac_v> jonian_g:  :)
[21:59] <MDC1> mac_v, hehe, ok. thanks anyway - i'll put a patch on bugzilla and see what happens.. you don't happen to handle git-bz?
[22:00] <mac_v> MDC1: now , i'm trying to not fall asleep on the computer... ;p 
[22:00] <MDC1> mac_v, then go to bed!
[22:00] <mac_v> good night ;)
[22:00] <MDC1> night!