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westy_FFMPEG (libavcodec) how can i get codecs for that i updated it but still missing  mpeg acc audio codecs00:50
Mamarokwesty_: just install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package00:53
Mamarokand you need to install taglib-extras, too00:53
westy_ok ty very much00:53
Mamarokyou are welcome :)00:54
westy_hmm says it cant find taglib-extras00:57
Mamarokwesty_: wait, I have to check that00:59
Mamarokwesty_: it is called libtag-extras001:00
westy_k01:01
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BaudThiefAny time I try and run a Direct3D game under wine after upgrading to 9.04, I get page faults and it crashes out (doesnt happen on non-direct3d apps such as photoshop)01:31
BaudThiefany ideas?01:31
BaudThiefgames like portal, half-life, etc (all used to work)01:32
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rejohnI'm seeing spurious graphics problems on both my desktip & laptop using 904 & the later KDE from the (PPA? Launchpad?) repositories. 1) Some leftover window stuff doesn't get erased from the screen occasionally, & 2) some black background with light dots of garbage appear inside some windows (often KATE word processor).  Anyone else see this?  Is this a known issue?  Is it KDE, KUbuntu, Ubuntu issue???02:09
kalibos#almeria02:16
WalzmynI've randomly had and X session restart, for no apparent reason, anybody else had such?02:26
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donnybrascohello, I'm looking for help with using two different graphics cards at the same time on kubuntu hh02:41
donnybrascoI have an ATI Radeon (fglrx) and an Intel 865 - I'd like one to run my 1280x1024 lcd monitor and the other to run my 1920x1080p lcd tv02:43
donnybrascodoes anyone know if this is possible?02:47
donnybrascois anyone here?02:54
grow1erdonnybrasco, yes03:20
grow1erdonnybrasco, that03:20
grow1ers some pretty advanced X configuration03:21
grow1erthou03:21
donnybrascogrowler - would you be up to walking me through it?03:22
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webbb82_i just installed the kde extragear file  where do i find the new plasmas from the extragear03:39
webbb82i just installed the kde extragear file  where do i find the new plasmas from the extragear03:40
webbb82_oops sorry for the double post03:41
rejohnI'm seeing spurious graphics problems on both my desktip & laptop using 904 & the later KDE from the (PPA? Launchpad?) repositories. 1) Some leftover window stuff doesn't get erased from the screen occasionally, & 2) some black background with light dots of garbage appear inside some windows (often KATE word processor).  Anyone else see this?  Is this a known issue?  Is it KDE, KUbuntu, Ubuntu issue???03:41
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naught101_is it possible to edit items in the K menu in kde 4.3?04:41
deepuhello04:58
deepunavetz04:58
deepuhow are u ?04:58
navetzdeepu: I am good, you?04:59
deepui am also fine04:59
deepufirst time i am seeing this in my sy sytem04:59
deepui need to go to office04:59
deepucathu later04:59
deepucatch*05:00
deepuok?05:00
deepushall we talk later?05:00
navetzsure05:01
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user321New Open Source Web Browser http://dooble.sourceforge.net/ Released for Kubuntu Karmic and Higher05:30
user321http://master.dl.sourceforge.net/project/dooble/Dooble-Web-Browser_0.07_svn874_Ubuntu-Karmic-9.10-1i386.deb05:30
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naught101_what's the package required to administer samba from systemsettings?06:48
jussi01!samba | naught101_06:51
ubottunaught101_: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.06:51
jussi01hrm, not overly helpful with your question...06:51
naught101_no :)06:51
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AdysIm running the packaged nvidia drivers nvidia-glx-185; since yesterday x/kdm dont properly start I just get a blackscreen. this happened before but my workarounds dont work anymore07:09
Adys$ status kdm says its running07:09
DarkriftXhow do you install newer nvidia drivers? I tried and it said I need X not running so I went to recovery mode. Then it complained about run level 1, told me to do "telinit 3" which then started X07:10
DarkriftXwtf does it want me to do?07:10
AdysDarkriftX: just go to a tty and run /etc/init.d/kdm stop then sudo sh NVIDIA...07:10
DarkriftXlol07:10
DarkriftXthen kdm start after im done?07:10
DarkriftXor reboot07:10
Adysyes07:10
Adysjust restart kdm07:10
DarkriftXwell all be damned07:10
DarkriftXthanks, ill try trhat now07:11
DarkriftXhrmmmm, kdm stop did not give an error, but apparently also failed to work07:12
Adystry `sudo stop kdm'07:12
DarkriftXok07:12
DarkriftXhrmmmm, stop kdm gave error about invalid service or something. I tried kdm stop from within the /etc/init.d/ path and got a new message "Stopping the K Display <something else here>" but as you can see, still nothing07:14
AdysDarkriftX: you can always try to kill it07:14
DarkriftXi think kill will just make it auto restart :(07:14
Adysshouldnt07:14
Adyskdm stop works for me... till recently07:15
DarkriftXi think ive tried that before07:15
DarkriftXok, so I installed the nvidia drivers and they failed to build the kernel module so now I am stuck with no drivers and a very bad resolution07:43
DarkriftXanyone know what i need to do to get the kernel modules fixed?07:44
DarkriftXouch07:45
navetzhow do you make kate open everything in the currently opened session07:58
noaXesshi all09:17
noaXessis it possible to increase the sudo command timeout?09:18
noaXessif i run a sudo command, after few minutes i need to run it again, cause the sudo timeout is reached..09:18
llutznoaXess: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=116697#post11669709:20
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LassekongoAre there any known problems with Intel 82801 soundcards?09:27
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Bouhi10:10
BouKDE 4.2.4 has been moved to backport, but even after enabling it in my repo, i'm not proposed to update to it. Any idea?10:10
EagleScreenBou: using kpackagekit or apt ?10:24
BouEagleScreen: apt10:30
Boui made an update, and then nothing is proposed for upgrade10:30
EagleScreen4.2.4 is in jaunty-backports10:32
EagleScreencheck you have backport repository enabled10:32
EagleScreenrun $ sudo aptitude update10:32
EagleScreenand check for updates10:33
EagleScreenor run $ sudo aptitude full-upgrade, to upgrade all packages, but this will upgrade any package to its backport version10:33
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dwidmannyo eagles051387511:10
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illioI've just bought a new hard drive for my laptop, so what I want to do is backup my entire system, install a new Kubuntu on the new hard drive and then restore all installed apps and settings into the new system, but without affecting such things as hard drive encryption, disc setup etc. .. how do I do that?11:19
nixihi..11:27
nixihow do i deactivate the sounds from startup etc.?11:28
jygfjfcvciao a tutti11:43
jygfjfcvc'è qualcuno che mi può auitare?11:43
jygfjfcv??11:43
berganaa ;)12:44
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Prunehow can I add an application alias to my Applications menu?13:13
PrunegEdit is the one I want to add13:13
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devDI have installed 'kubuntu-desktop' in my ubuntu and when I rebooted to kde there was no icons like places, applications & system . Even network & sound was not working there.13:47
avihaybdevD: applications places and system can all be accessed from the kmenu on the panle13:54
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devDavihayb, but they are not in the panel at all, there are no options at all, blank desktop and only right click shows some option . There is a small icon on the top right corner which can be seen in any KDE desktop.13:56
avihaybso your panel is blank?13:57
BluesKajG'Day all13:58
Prunehow can I add an application alias to my Applications menu?14:11
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Prunehow can I add an application alias to my Applications menu?14:37
geniiPrune: Rightclick on Kmenu... "Menu Editor"14:39
Prunetrying that now....14:42
Pruneconfused about where/what Kmenu is14:45
geniiPrune: The big K usually in bottom left14:46
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geniiIf you don't have one of those, you may not be using Kubuntu but something else14:50
Prunewell.  I'm on Ubuntu, don' tknow if I'm on Kubuntu14:57
PruneI don't see a "properties" on the left menu item14:58
javierhola15:05
javierplease, could someone explain me how to upgrade from Amarok 2.1 to 2.2?15:05
Riddelljavier: it's part of the normal karmic packages.  there are no 9.04 packages unfortunately15:06
javierah, then is only available for Karmic testers at the moment, right?15:07
javierthanks for information :)15:10
mifaunahola15:11
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javieranother question, does someone knows a posibility for making firefox look nicer in Kubunt? when it comes a window from it, it looks weird15:11
Boujavier: sudo apt-get install gtk-qt-engine15:12
Boujavier: then in system settings > appearance >GTK styles and fonts you can control the look of gtk apps15:13
geniiPrune: /join #ubuntu       then, and ask there15:14
genii!es | javier mifauna15:14
ubottujavier mifauna: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.15:14
Prunethanks genii15:14
javieroh15:15
javierthat makes the difference15:15
javierthanks a lot15:15
javierit's better although exploring files from firefox still has bad icons, like folders, not proper from KDE, I think15:19
geniiFirefox has always been somewhat ugly under KDE (the QT firefox had some promise but work seems to have stopped on it)15:21
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javiermhm15:22
Boujavier: by "exploring files" you mean in dialog windows ? (for example when selecting target destination for a download?)15:24
javierI have another question. i'm under KDE 4.3.1, I upgraded recently, but unfortunatelly, each time I start KDE I loose Plasma configuration, which I have configured with wallpaper presentations, diferent for each one of my two destops.Do you think it's the matter that it is still not definitive version? Or, if not, is there something I can do to solve it?15:24
javiermhm, I meant that15:24
Bougenii: there is no way to force firefox to use dolphin for such dialogs?15:25
javierthat's what I wanted, I don't have dolphin is such dialogs15:26
geniiBou: Not that I'm aware of15:26
javier:)   Can you tell me how to restart KDE? Maybe I didnt do it well15:27
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Boujavier: logout and log back15:27
javierso I did well15:28
javierI didnt understand well if there is any possibility of using dolphin in such dialogs15:28
Boujavier: not that I or genii know15:31
javierok, thanks15:32
Boubut I think it's possible to use dolphin to open the folder after you downloaded something15:32
Bouso i wonder why it wouldn't be possible to use it everywhere in firefox..15:32
javierwhat about KDE 4.3.1, do you know if there are still some bugs respecting pasma?15:36
javierI loose configuration each time I restart KDE: It appears without wallpapers, but if I go to settings, I find them as I configured them (diferent two deskops,with different presentations as wallpapers), and just presing Ok they come back. Back again no wallpaper after I log in next time15:37
Boujavier: you can check bugs.kde.org or ask on #plasma15:37
paololinociao a tutti!15:38
javierok!15:38
geniijavier: Do you have "Restore Previous Session" checked off in the system settings?15:38
paololinoplease give me name of the italian channel for support!15:38
llutz!it15:39
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)15:39
genii!it | paololino15:39
ubottupaololino: please see above15:39
paololinothanks and sorry!15:39
javiersorry genii, where could I check that?15:43
geniijavier: KButton...Settings.... System Settings.... Tab which says:Advanced.... Session Manager15:44
NeKitCan you help with configuring GPRS internet connection?15:44
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NeKitI'm using Windows Mobile PDA and Bluetooth adapter15:46
NeKitThe following commands work: sudo pand -c 16:00:36:73:33:8B15:46
NeKitsudo dhclient bnep015:46
NeKitbut the connection is very unstable15:46
javiergenii: ah, it's not that. I have ckecked in "restore previous sesion". It may be something different15:46
geniijavier: Perhaps you are shutting down in an unusual way, and not from KButton...Leave...Shutdown?15:48
javierno no, I'm legal in that :)15:48
javierthat I do correctly15:49
javierat least, following the rute you said15:50
Boujavier: check annma's method on #plasma15:50
javierBou: I'm afraid you will have to explain me that :S15:51
javierah15:51
javierOK,I understand15:51
sczgilaeHi everybody. I have a line that mounts a network directory in /etc/fstab and if I do "mount -a" everything its ok, but when i restart the computer not mounts15:53
llutzsczgilae: pls pastebin your /etc/fstab15:54
sczgilaellutz: http://pastebin.com/d650c0ce915:56
geniiI'm pretty sure fstab mounts happen before nfs gets loaded16:04
Freyrhi there!16:04
llutzgenii: its smfs, not nfs16:05
genii!hi16:05
ubottuHi! Welcome to #kubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!16:05
Freyri have 4 updates blocked (all 4 are refering to linux kernel updates). how can i remove them or how can i unblocked them ?16:05
BouFreyr: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade16:07
geniiFreyr: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade16:07
Freyrthank you for help16:09
Freyrboth of you16:09
javierBou: can you asses me how to try with new account?16:09
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geniisczgilae: In your fstab are the lines 17-18 and 20-21  on separate lines also, as in the paste?16:10
Boujavier: sudo adduser newuser  should create a new user named "newuser"16:10
Bouthen logout and at the login page you should be able to log with this new user16:10
azerty_hello everybody16:10
sczgilaegenii: yes16:10
llutzsczgilae: should read one line each16:11
sczgilaellutz: i dont understand. i have two lines but the system separate the lines to see ok16:12
agneseitalians?16:13
agnesesupport?16:13
llutz!it16:13
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)16:13
llutzsczgilae: putting it on one line is the only idea i have, sry16:14
Boujavier: is it OK?16:15
genii/server/diretory1     /mnt/directory2                    smbfs      credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777            0    016:15
llutz //server/....16:16
sczgilaellutz: its rare because if i put mount -a mounts without problems16:16
llutzsczgilae: right, i wonder why...16:16
geniiIt's probably just ignoring the stuff in line216:17
llutzgenii: but why does "mount -a" mount it later?16:17
llutzmakes no sense to me16:18
llutzmaybe dns-issue during boot-time (just a guess)?16:18
geniiLikely mounting as whatever user the mount -a is being called as, using the first part of the stanza16:18
geniisczgilae: You could do something like add the mount -a command to the rc.local16:19
llutzsczgilae: can you try it with ip-address instead of "server" in fstab?16:19
sczgilaegenii: yes, im going to try something like that. i have tried in /etc/profile something like "mount -t ......" but when an user that is not root do a login fails because of permission.16:22
sczgilaellutz: im going to try now16:22
giant81ok I've got compiz, emerald installed and my fglrx drivers installed16:22
giant81why is it when I start compiz I loose my window borders? I thought emerald was the windows decorator, am I missing something?16:23
newuserBou: I'm old Javier: the problem remains, I still loose configuration of desktop16:23
sczgilaellutz: It is possible that it is related to the option "_netdev"?16:27
sczgilaegenii: It is possible that it is related to the option "_netdev"?16:27
llutzsczgilae: since you don't have _netdev-option specified, i doubt it16:30
CobinHaving issues with USB and built in mousepad on Asus n50v and just about any other built in devices after install.  live disk worked great.16:32
Cobinany ideas?16:32
sczgilaein other computer im trying that: "//server/directory /mnt/directory cifs username=myusername,password=mypassword,_netdev,auto,r  0  0"  but the same16:32
llutzsczgilae: last idea if ip-address doesn't work either: //server/diretory1 /mnt/directory2 cifs credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777,_netdev 0 016:38
geniiYou might want to try something like adding cifs or smbfs to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules        and then issue a: sudo mkinitramfs16:40
geniiWhich will include in the kernel next boot the fs drivers16:41
sczgilaellutz: i have solved writing the mount line in /etc/rc.local          thank you for all16:44
sczgilaegenii:  i have solved writing the mount line in /etc/rc.local          thank you for all16:44
liam_good day, all ive just discovered that 'touch afile ; ls -l afile' lists root/plugdev for user/group when im logged in as my uid 1000 on jaunty... have never seen that before. any tips?16:53
liam_op wait its parent directory i think thats doing it --16:54
liam_some terribly written convenient compile script to blame i suspect16:55
liam_oh well16:55
liam_haha its ntfs braindead permissions16:55
Ben348Hello16:58
radhikahow to monitor net infor17:01
genii!info knetstats | radhika17:02
ubotturadhika: knetstats (source: knetstats): network interfaces monitor for KDE's systray. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.1-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 110 kB, installed size 660 kB17:02
ghostwooo17:26
ghostwhatś going on?17:26
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Guest37894people17:26
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Ghost777byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee17:26
geniiHm17:26
romualdsalut17:28
romuald...beaucoup de monde, mais personne au final.17:29
genii!fr17:29
ubottuCe canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr17:29
romualdHi17:29
romuald...lot of people, but no one eventually17:30
geniiromuald: You can always ask your questions in here, if using English is not an issue17:30
romualdit's not, tks17:31
Ben348Why does my network manager look like this http://i35.tinypic.com/vfi1z8.png when iv already activated the wireless driver http://i34.tinypic.com/280kxfd.png  Im trying to get wifi working on this.17:33
NeKit_!ru17:33
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke17:33
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CeruleanHow can I disable keyboard repeat for the Alt key? It's driving me mad... I've never seen the left Alt key repeating before17:42
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sczgilaei have an laptop with NVIDIA video card. i have installed the drivers and everything its ok if i work as root. but if i login with normal user the computer freeze. I tried uninstalling drivers and everything ok, so i think that the problem is because of permissions. i have tried too including adm group in /etc/security/group.conf" but i have the same problem.17:49
javierHi. Does someone knows how to make Firefox integrate in Kubuntu "atmosphere"?17:52
sczgilaejavier: integrar en la atmosfera? vamos al canal kubuntu-es17:53
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Hatlhi! is there a way to minimize a fullscreen opengl application? the kde shortcuts don't work17:57
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donnybrascoHi, I'm trying to use two different graphics cards to run two different displays - can anyone help me with this?18:01
sczgilaeHatl:  yes,system preferrences --> keyboard and mouse --> the last optionlike quick... global ..--> KDE component --> KWin --> minimize, then stablish keyboard shortcut18:02
donnybrascoOne of my cards is an integrated intel 865 using 'i810' driver and the other is ATI Radeon (fglrx) usint 'ati' driver18:03
drvoodoodonnybrasco: does you mainboard support the use of an internal card and an agp or pcix card?18:05
donnybrascodrvoodoo: I'm not really sure (bit of a noob) I'm currently using the radeon, which is plugged into a pci slot - how can I find out if my mb supports the use of both?18:07
drvoodoothere should be a switch in the bios. but normally the internal card is deactivated by pluggin in an "external"18:09
donnybrascodrvoodoo: yes, I remember switching the bios to use the pci card - so I'd have to reboot and see if there's an option for both?18:11
drvoodooyes18:11
donnybrascook - if not, then I can't do it?18:11
sczgilaedonnybrasco: the first thing you have to do is "lspci" to see if the system knows about this card18:11
geniiI concur with sczgilae18:12
BluesKajdonnybrasco, less cluttered if you do a "lspci | grep VGA"18:13
donnybrascosczgilae: lspci = http://paste.ubuntu.com/281484/18:14
donnybrascoI think the system knows about it18:15
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BluesKajdonnybrasco, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]18:19
donnybrascoBluesKaj: can I use both at the same time?18:21
sczgilaedonnybrasco: but do you want extended desktop?18:22
vge!sound18:22
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ARTS is running, by going to K Menu -> System Settings -> Sound System and making sure "Enable the sound system" is checked. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP318:22
BluesKajdonnybrasco, not sure , assumed you wanted to use the pci instard of the onboard18:23
BluesKajinstead of18:23
donnybrascosczgilae: yes - I probably can't use two different cards for that, right?  I'd be satisfied with clone, though, or separate x server18:25
sczgilaedonnybrasco: no, now i have in my computer an NVidia card and the integrated one18:26
sczgilaedonnybrasco: do you have the radeon drivers installed?18:27
donnybrascosczgilae: yes, I'm not using the integrated card at the moment18:27
donnybrascoradeon is using 'ati' driver18:27
vgeOK, who muted my soundcards in alsamixer? I want blood!!18:28
sczgilaedonnybrasco:  could you launch radeontool in konsole?18:28
donnybrascosczgilae: http://paste.ubuntu.com/281502/18:29
Prunehow do I force-quit my browser?18:31
chiraghello18:32
chiragneed help with nuking partition18:33
chiragany one got few mins to help me out pls?18:33
chiragsomeone pls share ur knowledge18:34
BluesKajwhat do you want to do , chirag ?18:35
* genii sips and ponders sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=dev/sdX#18:35
chiragpartitioning is out of order. want to correct it18:35
sczgilaedonnybrasco:  write sudo aticonfig --initial18:35
chiragnew bee18:36
chiragsda7 is there18:36
donnybrascosczgilae: sudo: aticonfig: command not found18:36
geniiPrune: Firefox?18:37
chiragthe reason i want to correct it is that while trying to upgrade to 9.04 it says don't have sufficient memory18:38
chiragwhile i have but due to improper partitioning, having this trouble18:38
BluesKajchirag, not enough info ..pls explain your partitons , do a df -h in the konsole and pastebin the output18:38
chiragblueskaj, help me with that as well pls.18:39
chiragpressed alt + f218:39
BluesKaj!pastebin18:40
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. Ubuntu pastebin is at  http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic18:40
chiragdf -h is not coming up with anything18:40
BluesKajchirag, look in the kmenu for System , click on Konsole18:41
BluesKajthen df -h18:41
BluesKajcopy the text to pastebin18:42
sczgilaedonnybrasco: puf, im searching because with my nvidia i do very easy with nvidia-settings command. in ATI cards i dont know. maybe with xrandr command we can do something18:42
chiragk18:42
chiraghttp://paste.ubuntu.com/281515/18:43
abdelhello,18:44
bobbob1016For some reason, KDE keeps freezing on me.  It seems to be the file-system backend of sorts, since anything that tries file-browsing crashes.  I can navigate in konsole, but not in kate or dolphin or anything.  Any ideas?18:44
donnybrascosczgilae: I have to go for now - time to eat - thanks for your efforts, I will work on this problem some more in a little bit18:44
sczgilaedonnybrasco:  ok, np18:45
abdelcan some one help me through my first tar installation, please, and newbie18:45
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bittin`Hello do anyone knows how to do the apt-cache bigger?18:46
chiragblueskaj, any idea?18:46
abdelcan some one help me through my first tar installation, please, i'm newbie18:47
BluesKajchirag, your HDD is just 4.2G ?18:47
chirag:)18:47
chiragno18:47
chirag80gb only18:47
abdelI googled for that, but some reason, i get lost in some stage18:47
chiraghave migrated from XP, had opensuse for a while n came back to kubuntu18:48
BluesKajchirag, it should show all the other partiitions ..are they hidden ?18:48
chiragin the process the partitioning is screwed18:48
chiragnot sure18:48
abdelhello folks, I need your help,18:49
geniibittin`: Please don't post the same question in multiple channels. If you use Xubuntu, ask in #xubuntu if you use #kubuntu ask in Kubuntu, etc. But not all18:49
bobbob1016!patience | abdel18:49
ubottuabdel: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com  http://wiki.ubuntu.com http://www.ubuntuforums.org or http://www.kubuntuforums.net while you wait. Also see !patience18:49
bittin`iam using Debian :p18:49
chiragblueskaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/281520/18:49
geniibittin`: Then ask in #debian18:49
abdel#ubuntu18:49
bittin`and i know apt-get is same for all18:50
geniibittin`: The underlying system is similar. But they are not identical. You should ask in the channel that closest matches18:51
chiragany idea now?18:52
BluesKajchirag, no it still doesn't show the whole HDD18:54
chiragwhat should i do?18:54
chiragn how should i do it?18:54
BluesKajcopy and paste the whole list18:54
meitneriumhi can someone help me extracting an daa file? i have already downloaded poweriso but if i type poweriso extract /path/ it says: Bad parameter: extract18:56
chiragboss this is the whole list18:57
meitneriumchirag: can you help me please?18:58
chiragmeitnerium, with what?18:58
meitneriumhi can someone help me extracting an daa file? i have already downloaded poweriso but if i type poweriso extract /path/ it says: Bad parameter: extract18:58
BluesKajmeitnerium, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-open-daa-direct-access-archive-files-under-linux-or-unix-oses/18:59
chiragm trying to GET help18:59
geniimeitnerium: Maybe also see http://ubuntuhowtos.com/howtos/convert_daa_to_iso18:59
meitneriumok ok thank you very much you two18:59
BluesKajchirag, you have an 80gig hdd , what occupies the rest of it ?19:00
chiragjust around 40% is full19:01
chiragbut due to wrong partitioning, havoc has been created19:01
BluesKajchirag, download and burn GParted Live CD19:02
BluesKaj!GParted19:02
ubottugparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php19:02
chiragwhat is the apprx size?19:02
bittin`got it to work now :)19:03
BluesKajchirag, GParted is easy to use , and be sure to read the instructions ...looks like you have to repartition some of your drive and reset the labels19:03
geniibittin`: Good19:04
chiragokay blueskaj, would try that tomorrow19:06
chiraghope it should be as easy as u r saying19:06
chiragur help is appreciated blueskaj19:07
genii!helpersnack | BluesKaj19:07
ubottuBluesKaj: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!19:07
BluesKajchirag, do some research on the 'net to find out about partitioning and how it works19:07
BluesKajhehe19:08
chiragthen it would be easy... is it what u mean? lol...19:08
chiragelse it would not19:08
chiraglol19:08
chiraghow is the new 9.04?19:09
Mamarokchirag: 9.04 was releasd in APril, not exactly new19:09
BluesKajeasy is not always best chirag , sometimes one learns more from testing and trying new things19:09
chiragyeah... that's why love linux19:10
chiragthough can do very little with what i know so far19:11
chiragmamarok, it was the beta version i guess19:11
chiragin april19:11
Mamarokchirag: no, 9.04 == 2009 April, that is a final release, not beta19:12
chiraganyways, thank you for the hlep19:12
chiragokay...19:12
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chiraggood night everyone19:12
BluesKajnite chirag19:13
mrvanesHi, I've got a strange problem, anybody care to help?19:15
BluesKaj!ask | mrvanes19:15
ubottumrvanes: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:15
mrvanesOk, sorry ;)19:15
mrvanesMy device updater stopped reacting to the inserting of CD's19:16
mrvanesUSB etc still work19:16
mrvaneswhere to start debugging?19:16
mrvanesKDE 4.3.119:16
mrvanesJaunty19:16
mrvanesI meant device notifier of course...19:16
BluesKajnotifier works with data on cd , blanks don't show up for some reason19:21
mrvanesIt stopped working for all CD's, DVD's audio, data etc...19:22
mrvanesBut I can mount the CD manually without problems19:23
mrvanesIt just doesn't show up in the device notifier anymore19:23
BluesKajmrvanes, did you just update ? if so , relogin or reboot19:23
mrvanesNo I didn't update recently and rebooted fresh an hour ago19:24
BluesKajI had the same prob a few days ago19:24
DarkriftX!nvidia19:24
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto19:24
BluesKajrecommend you update , mrvanes19:24
mrvanesrunning aptitude19:24
mrvanesno updates available19:25
BluesKajsafe-upgrade19:25
mrvanesapt-get safe-upgrade?19:25
geniisafe-upgrade is an aptitude option19:26
BluesKajsudo aptitude safe-upgrade19:26
mrvanesNo packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed19:27
BluesKajmrvanes, make sure your sources.list has all the debs enabled by removing the # in front of any debs in the list19:28
mrvanespartner and jaunty-proposed as well?19:29
mrvanesand wouldn't jaunty proposed conflict with kubuntu-updates ppa?19:30
BluesKajmrvanes, try this: alt+f2,  kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list , and get rid of the ppa , it's for testing purposes only in alpha and beta versions19:31
DarkriftXwhat is the default nvidia driver package name?19:31
mrvanesI don't have partner and jaunty-proposed enabled for that reason, that's why I asked if I should enable them...19:32
BluesKajDarkriftX, depends on your nvidia card which kernel module is active19:32
DarkriftXlong sotry short i tried to go to 185. version and it failed. i had 1.80 version and i need my compute to work so I want to reinstall the one I had19:32
BluesKajmrvanes, enable partner , delete proposed19:32
DarkriftXhow do i check that?19:33
DarkriftXlsmod19:33
mrvanesBluesKaj: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.19:33
BluesKajmrvanes, after editing do sudo aptitude update , then safe-upgrade19:34
mrvanesBluesKaj: with all due respect... I don't think I'm behind in packages. The partner repo didn't add any new packages19:35
DarkriftXany ideas?19:37
BluesKajDarkriftX, try dpkg -l|grep nvidia19:38
DarkriftXit shows all of them still installed19:39
DarkriftXbut the one I manually installed is what tries to load, so do i need to reinstall them?19:39
BluesKajmrvanes, well then you are prolly up to date , but there are other repos you may not have in your sources.list that are important19:39
BluesKajDarkriftX, in oder to make a driver the default , all other previously installed nvidia drivers have to be removed19:41
DarkriftXwell all of these nvidia packages seem to still be installed19:41
DarkriftXeven that kde "Hardware Drivers" screen shows that 180 is still "installed"19:41
mrvanesBluesKaj: I get 4.3.1 from ppa kubuntu-backports, that has never been a problem...19:41
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geniiThere was some udev problem which affected cd/dvd detection but it was fixed already, as far as I know. So if all upgrades have been done it might be some other thing in this case19:42
DarkriftXbut its not, the 185 is what tries to load, and errors out because of failed kernel module builds19:42
DarkriftXso I want to get my system usable again19:42
DarkriftXI want to go back to the ones that worked (which were installed from apt) so I can use my computer again19:42
BluesKajyeah, DarkriftX, the 180 is the base install for the 185 version so it's basically a header19:42
DarkriftXso does anyone have any suggestions?19:44
DarkriftXi cant believe im at a dead end19:45
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mrvanesBluesKaj: Is there any way to debug solid? 'caus I think that's where things start going wrong (together with hal maybe?)19:45
BluesKajDarkriftX, sudo aptitude remove nvidia-glx-"number of driver" then sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-"numberofdriver" that you want to install19:47
geniiDarkriftX: Can you pastebin result of: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-180             (or 185, whichever you installed)19:47
DarkriftXok, i seem to have a bunch of htem installed19:47
DarkriftXthe 185 was installed form a nvidia package19:48
mrvanesBluesKaj: Ok, found the solid/hal debug page19:48
DarkriftXhttp://pastebin.com/d1cd49bfd19:49
BluesKajmrvanes, I sense you are being too cautious with your repos ..make universe multiverse and all the archive repos are enabled19:49
mrvanesBluesKaj: I have them all enabled, except for partner and jaunty-proposed so I really don't think it's a repo problem19:50
mrvanesBluesKaj: Like I said I think something messed with my solid framework, but now I don't know where to start to see what's happening19:50
BluesKajenabled and listed are 2 differnt things19:51
geniiDarkriftX: What says the result for the 185 ?19:51
DarkriftXgenii: 185 wasnt installed with apt-get19:51
mrvanesBluesKaj: No, believe me, I USE them, they don't have a # before them19:51
DarkriftXW: Unable to locate package nvidia-glx-18519:51
BluesKajdon't think it's installed genii19:51
geniiDarkriftX: If it used a .deb then apt-get will still know about it19:52
DarkriftXi installed 185 with the nvidia .run file19:52
geniiAh, OK19:52
DarkriftXand when I boot now it says that there is a module mismatch19:52
DarkriftXi have 185 driver and 180 kernel module19:52
DarkriftXand the kernel module fails to build/download during the installer19:52
DarkriftXso I want to go back to 180 completely so it just works for now19:52
DarkriftXmy screen is stuck in low graphics mode and I am getting a headache reading it19:53
BluesKajwhich card DarkriftX ?19:53
DarkriftX6150 go i thnk19:53
DarkriftXlemme lspci19:53
mifaunabuenas tardes19:54
mifaunagood nigth19:54
DarkriftXhrmmm, doesnt even show in there now19:54
DarkriftXbut pretty sure 6150 go (mobile)19:54
BluesKajDarkriftX, you need the nvidia-glx-185 driver ..it's in the supported list19:55
DarkriftXi know but its not working19:56
DarkriftXi just want it to work19:56
BluesKajthe 180 is the mismatch19:56
DarkriftXi spent 5 hours last night with someone trying to rebuild a kernel19:56
DarkriftXand im left with a non workign computer19:56
BluesKajremove the 180 , install the 18519:56
DarkriftXthe 185 install failed19:57
DarkriftX5 times19:57
DarkriftX185 = unusable system19:57
BluesKajthatcuz you still had the 180, it's default until removesd19:57
DarkriftXwhat about the kernel modules?19:57
BluesKajthe kernel module should be the 185 if HAL is working right19:58
DarkriftXso remove the 180 with apt and reboot?19:58
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BluesKajgo to a tty19:59
BluesKajhang on19:59
BluesKajDarkriftX, ctrl+alt+f1 , login then20:00
BluesKajstop X  with "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop20:00
BluesKajignore the quotes20:00
DarkriftXok, i have gdm though so ill stop that instead20:00
BluesKajthen remove the 18020:01
geniiDarkriftX: If you installed the nvidia stuff prior to (re)building some kernel this can explain why it doesn't work20:01
BluesKajthen install the 18520:01
DarkriftXgenii: someone tried to get me to build a kernel to fix it but it never finished20:01
DarkriftXok BluesKaj, ill try it :S20:02
BluesKajafter installing sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start20:02
BluesKajgenii, right ,good point20:03
DarkriftXok, gonna try it now20:11
amitronCan anyone help me with some wubi trouble? For some reason there are only Karmic cd images in the repository, so it doesn't really want to download it.20:12
DarkriftXanyone know why when I kill X that I lose networking?20:12
genii!9.10| amitron20:12
ubottuamitron: Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 29th, 2009 - Karmic WILL break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+120:12
amitronI -know- what Karmic is.20:13
geniiamitron: Then why are you asking about 9.10 wubi here and not in #ubuntu+1 ?20:13
amitronI'm puzzled because there don't seem to be any Jaunty cd images.20:13
geniiamitron: What repository are you pointing it at?20:14
amitronIt doesn't let me choose which one, so it's the default.20:15
dhugheshi folks20:15
geniiamitron: If there are only Karmic listed, likely you're using a Karmic cd and not a Jaunty cd20:16
amitrongenii, It's a Jaunty installer, seeing as it's trying to download a Jaunty image.20:17
mrvanesBluesKaj: Problem solved, I had a media-check-disable-storage_model_DVD__RW_DS_8W1P.fdi in /etc/hal/fdi/information and I REALY don't know how it got there?!20:17
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mrvaneshal works in mysterious ways... ;)20:17
geniiamitron: Did you have some previous wubi install that you are using the disk image file of?20:17
amitrongenii, No old installs.20:18
BluesKajmrvanes, good to hear ..not so good about the bug tho20:18
mrvanesBluesKaj: I would report if I knew who to blame or where to start?!20:19
mrvanesBluesKaj: Maybe wait to see if it happens again?20:19
BluesKajhmm mrvanes ..I don't have anything in that file20:21
mrvanesIt seems to be generated by hal-disable-polling --device /dev/cdrom 'hal' (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/358390)20:21
mrvanesBluesKaj: But I never did that (I would remember, wouldn't I?)20:22
DarkriftXBluesKaj: didnt work but I did get lots more errors20:22
mrvanesBluesKaj: Thx so far... glad I solved it ;)20:25
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DarkriftXdamnit20:29
BluesKaj!compile | DarkriftX20:31
ubottuDarkriftX: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)20:31
BluesKaj!build20:32
DarkriftXwhat do i need to build?20:32
DarkriftXi would imagine I just need to install the driver that worked20:32
DarkriftXbut nobody knows how20:32
BluesKajlooking for building kernel info20:32
DarkriftXsomeone was walking me through it last night20:32
DarkriftXbut it failed20:32
DarkriftXi spent 4 hours configuring the kernel with him and let it run overnight20:33
DarkriftXwoke up to an error20:33
BluesKajdunno why your friend thi=ought a kernel build was required20:33
DarkriftXand why does my internet stop working when I kill gdm?20:34
DarkriftXit still shows as connected, but I get invalid host or something20:34
BluesKajthat's adasngerous practice even for experienced linux users20:34
BluesKajdon't kill gdm just stop it , it's a way of stopping X , so that X isn't using the driver you're trying to remove20:35
DarkriftXi did20:35
BluesKajDarkriftX, if you have too many errors , then a clean install of the live cd is prolly in order and you can save your data if you use the manual partitoning option on your /  partition. That's how I rescued my install from disaster , you may need to reinstall some apps but their config files will have remained intact so your settings will be retained.20:40
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BOZGDoes anyone use iFuse on Kubuntu?21:04
Darkrift2wow, guess I fixed it myself21:05
BluesKajDarkrift2, share your procedure with us , so we can learn from it  :)21:06
Darkrift2i have no idea what I did21:06
Darkrift2i just started messing with shit21:07
Darkrift2stuff, sorry21:07
Darkrift2i removed the drivers, then I went to the "hardware drivers" screen, rmeoved it there21:07
Darkrift2rebooted21:07
Darkrift2went back to the hardware drivers and activated it again, rebooted, put my old xorg.conf settings back and rebooted again21:07
BluesKajok, then the kernel module/hal was able to see your hardware after you removed the old driver21:09
BluesKajand by default made the right driver available after reboot21:09
Darkrift2no, im back on the old driver21:09
Darkrift2thats what I wanted21:09
Darkrift2a working computer21:09
Darkrift2i could give a crap less about the "right" driver, i want the workign one21:10
BluesKajwell the right one is usually the one that works21:10
Darkrift2which in this case is the 180 one21:10
Darkrift2180.4421:11
BluesKajI'm on karmic so I forget that jaunty is stillusing older drivers21:11
Darkrift2i feel bad for the guy who tried helping me for 4 hours building the kernel21:11
Darkrift2hard to tell him "sorry, dont need you anymore, that was a waste of 4 hours of our lives"21:11
Darkrift2he was walking me through step by step :S21:12
BluesKajbuilding a kernel isn't necessary , but some ppl think it is from purist POV21:12
Darkrift2oh well, ill deal with it tonight21:13
Darkrift2time to get ready for work21:13
inanimateIs gspca available anymore in [K]ubuntu?21:16
inanimateI have an old Creative Webcam that I'd like to get working, but everything is talking about <8.10...21:16
Ev0luti0n_folks21:17
Ev0luti0n_in windows the program folder is located by default in c:\Program files\21:19
Ev0luti0n_what is linux's equivalent?21:19
Ev0luti0n_I want to configure Cairo-dock to open programs choosen by me21:19
Ev0luti0n_but i can't figure it out the damn path to the apps21:19
Ev0luti0n_In linux you just choosed the .exe files, and the apps would open themselves. On linux there seem to be no program icons nor "executables"21:20
Ev0luti0n_i know this is a newbiew question, so take it easy, if you intend to reply21:20
Ev0luti0n_;)21:20
Ev0luti0n_Anyone folks?21:22
dverweireeviljussi01: think i missed your question. please ask again?21:23
BluesKajEv0luti0n_, most apps are in /usr/bin , but the start in windows is the Kmenu in kubuntu where most apps are located graphically , you can add then to desktop or panel by right clicking and choosing the option21:23
Ev0luti0n_thank you...21:24
Ev0luti0n_but when i want to create a new shortcut manually... which path do i choose?21:24
Ev0luti0n_or for example, when i need to use a path to indicate to something the path to an app21:24
Ev0luti0n_"open with...." dialog of firefox, pex21:25
Ev0luti0n_Do you have any experience with cairo-dock?21:25
BluesKajwhich kubuntu are you using Ev0luti0n_ ?21:26
Ev0luti0n_9.0421:26
Ev0luti0n_i think if found the answer21:26
Ev0luti0n_lemme try it21:26
BluesKaj!cairo-dock21:26
ubottucairo-dock is a MacOS X -like dock for the gnome desktop, see www.cairo-dock.org21:26
Ev0luti0n_OMAGAD21:27
Ev0luti0n_precisely what i wanted21:27
Ev0luti0n_thanks a lot blueskaj21:27
BluesKajEv0luti0n_, this isn't gnome desktop which is ubuntu , this room is for kde desktop users = kubuntu21:27
Ev0luti0n_i know21:28
BluesKajEv0luti0n_, any futher questions , ask in #ubuntu21:28
Ev0luti0n_problem solved now21:28
Ev0luti0n_and cairo-dock works seamlessly on kubuntu21:28
Ev0luti0n_:)21:28
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Ev0luti0n_it works just fine, the thing is that i am a newbie and couldn't configure new paths21:28
tehaceomg first time kubuntu21:28
BluesKajEv0luti0n_, we don't get many questions about cairo-dock here21:29
Ev0luti0n_IT WORKS!21:30
Ev0luti0n_:D21:30
Ev0luti0n_gotta go now21:31
Ev0luti0n_thanks21:31
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Ben349Hi can I get some help with this please http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3106722.0 ?21:50
BluesKajBen349, try the wext driver instead of the madwifi with the atheros21:53
Ben349Ok thanks ill have a google, its weird becuase this morning it all worked fine just now it isn't21:54
BluesKajBen349, what settings did you have this morning ?21:57
Ben349All I did was 1) Enable the nvida graphics driver 2) Enable wireless card thingy, restarted and it worked. Then went to school and found the tab was disabled :(21:57
BluesKajhmm never encountered the wifi drivers in the HW config app22:00
Ben349If I find a guide on how to get Atheros AR5007 working on ubuntu will it be the same for kubuntu ?22:00
BluesKajyes22:01
Ben349Ok cheers ill google for that then :)22:01
BluesKajthe procedure gui might be different22:01
BluesKajBen349, a suggestion , look at wicd if you don't have any luck22:02
BluesKaj!info wicd22:02
ubottuwicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.9-2 (jaunty), package size 247 kB, installed size 1860 kB22:02
Ben349Ooh ok thanks for the help Blueskaj, Ill just reboot into Linux now and have a go.22:03
BluesKajBen349, good luck22:04
Ben349Thanks Ill need it hehe22:04
BluesKajbbl..taking a break22:04
Monika|Kkstartupconfig4 does not exist or failed. the error code is 3. check your installation -- after reinstalling a broken system (preserving home) ... what could cause this and how can I solve this?22:07
a_a23:12
a_hola23:13
hanshenriksudo apt-get install phpmyadmin == good way to install? or should i do it manually?23:14
jouhni_hanshenrik: i did it and i like it23:14
hanshenrikk23:15
jouhni_conf files are located in something like /etc/phpmyadmin23:16
jouhni_i think it creates a new mysql user (or maybe you have to do this, but it's optinal) and it changes apache's config such that http://localhost/phpmyadmin points to phpmyadmin23:20
hanshenrikbtw know where that option is set?23:22
jouhni_has anybody ever built a debian package for a java program without reading those tons of packaging guides? i'm lookuing for an easier way if i just want to spread some files in the filesystem23:22
jouhni_hanshenrik: the phpmyadmin mysql user does exist or not. that's the option ;)23:23
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paul_____WEIRD! :)23:38
sheldonhi men23:45
sheldonwhen wll be aviable the entire KDE compiled with qt 4.6 ?23:45
hanshenriki did sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin   - but 127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin  == 404 not found23:50
hanshenrikits supose to land there right?23:51
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