[00:50] <westy_> FFMPEG (libavcodec) how can i get codecs for that i updated it but still missing  mpeg acc audio codecs
[00:53] <Mamarok> westy_: just install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[00:53] <Mamarok> and you need to install taglib-extras, too
[00:53] <westy_> ok ty very much
[00:54] <Mamarok> you are welcome :)
[00:57] <westy_> hmm says it cant find taglib-extras
[00:59] <Mamarok> westy_: wait, I have to check that
[01:00] <Mamarok> westy_: it is called libtag-extras0
[01:01] <westy_> k
[01:31] <BaudThief> Any time I try and run a Direct3D game under wine after upgrading to 9.04, I get page faults and it crashes out (doesnt happen on non-direct3d apps such as photoshop)
[01:31] <BaudThief> any ideas?
[01:32] <BaudThief> games like portal, half-life, etc (all used to work)
[02:09] <rejohn> I'm seeing spurious graphics problems on both my desktip & laptop using 904 & the later KDE from the (PPA? Launchpad?) repositories. 1) Some leftover window stuff doesn't get erased from the screen occasionally, & 2) some black background with light dots of garbage appear inside some windows (often KATE word processor).  Anyone else see this?  Is this a known issue?  Is it KDE, KUbuntu, Ubuntu issue???
[02:16] <kalibos> #almeria
[02:26] <Walzmyn> I've randomly had and X session restart, for no apparent reason, anybody else had such?
[02:41] <donnybrasco> hello, I'm looking for help with using two different graphics cards at the same time on kubuntu hh
[02:43] <donnybrasco> I have an ATI Radeon (fglrx) and an Intel 865 - I'd like one to run my 1280x1024 lcd monitor and the other to run my 1920x1080p lcd tv
[02:47] <donnybrasco> does anyone know if this is possible?
[02:54] <donnybrasco> is anyone here?
[03:20] <grow1er> donnybrasco, yes
[03:20] <grow1er> donnybrasco, that
[03:21] <grow1er> s some pretty advanced X configuration
[03:21] <grow1er> thou
[03:22] <donnybrasco> growler - would you be up to walking me through it?
[03:39] <webbb82_> i just installed the kde extragear file  where do i find the new plasmas from the extragear
[03:40] <webbb82> i just installed the kde extragear file  where do i find the new plasmas from the extragear
[03:41] <webbb82_> oops sorry for the double post
[03:41] <rejohn> I'm seeing spurious graphics problems on both my desktip & laptop using 904 & the later KDE from the (PPA? Launchpad?) repositories. 1) Some leftover window stuff doesn't get erased from the screen occasionally, & 2) some black background with light dots of garbage appear inside some windows (often KATE word processor).  Anyone else see this?  Is this a known issue?  Is it KDE, KUbuntu, Ubuntu issue???
[04:41] <naught101_> is it possible to edit items in the K menu in kde 4.3?
[04:58] <deepu> hello
[04:58] <deepu> navetz
[04:58] <deepu> how are u ?
[04:59] <navetz> deepu: I am good, you?
[04:59] <deepu> i am also fine
[04:59] <deepu> first time i am seeing this in my sy sytem
[04:59] <deepu> i need to go to office
[04:59] <deepu> cathu later
[05:00] <deepu> catch*
[05:00] <deepu> ok?
[05:00] <deepu> shall we talk later?
[05:01] <navetz> sure
[05:30] <user321> New Open Source Web Browser http://dooble.sourceforge.net/ Released for Kubuntu Karmic and Higher
[05:30] <user321> http://master.dl.sourceforge.net/project/dooble/Dooble-Web-Browser_0.07_svn874_Ubuntu-Karmic-9.10-1i386.deb
[06:48] <naught101_> what's the package required to administer samba from systemsettings?
[06:51] <jussi01> !samba | naught101_
[06:51] <jussi01> hrm, not overly helpful with your question...
[06:51] <naught101_> no :)
[07:09] <Adys> Im running the packaged nvidia drivers nvidia-glx-185; since yesterday x/kdm dont properly start I just get a blackscreen. this happened before but my workarounds dont work anymore
[07:09] <Adys> $ status kdm says its running
[07:10] <DarkriftX> how do you install newer nvidia drivers? I tried and it said I need X not running so I went to recovery mode. Then it complained about run level 1, told me to do "telinit 3" which then started X
[07:10] <DarkriftX> wtf does it want me to do?
[07:10] <Adys> DarkriftX: just go to a tty and run /etc/init.d/kdm stop then sudo sh NVIDIA...
[07:10] <DarkriftX> lol
[07:10] <DarkriftX> then kdm start after im done?
[07:10] <DarkriftX> or reboot
[07:10] <Adys> yes
[07:10] <Adys> just restart kdm
[07:10] <DarkriftX> well all be damned
[07:11] <DarkriftX> thanks, ill try trhat now
[07:12] <DarkriftX> hrmmmm, kdm stop did not give an error, but apparently also failed to work
[07:12] <Adys> try `sudo stop kdm'
[07:12] <DarkriftX> ok
[07:14] <DarkriftX> hrmmmm, stop kdm gave error about invalid service or something. I tried kdm stop from within the /etc/init.d/ path and got a new message "Stopping the K Display <something else here>" but as you can see, still nothing
[07:14] <Adys> DarkriftX: you can always try to kill it
[07:14] <DarkriftX> i think kill will just make it auto restart :(
[07:14] <Adys> shouldnt
[07:15] <Adys> kdm stop works for me... till recently
[07:15] <DarkriftX> i think ive tried that before
[07:43] <DarkriftX> ok, so I installed the nvidia drivers and they failed to build the kernel module so now I am stuck with no drivers and a very bad resolution
[07:44] <DarkriftX> anyone know what i need to do to get the kernel modules fixed?
[07:45] <DarkriftX> ouch
[07:58] <navetz> how do you make kate open everything in the currently opened session
[09:17] <noaXess> hi all
[09:18] <noaXess> is it possible to increase the sudo command timeout?
[09:18] <noaXess> if i run a sudo command, after few minutes i need to run it again, cause the sudo timeout is reached..
[09:20] <llutz> noaXess: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=116697#post116697
[09:27] <Lassekongo> Are there any known problems with Intel 82801 soundcards?
[10:10] <Bou> hi
[10:10] <Bou> KDE 4.2.4 has been moved to backport, but even after enabling it in my repo, i'm not proposed to update to it. Any idea?
[10:24] <EagleScreen> Bou: using kpackagekit or apt ?
[10:30] <Bou> EagleScreen: apt
[10:30] <Bou> i made an update, and then nothing is proposed for upgrade
[10:32] <EagleScreen> 4.2.4 is in jaunty-backports
[10:32] <EagleScreen> check you have backport repository enabled
[10:32] <EagleScreen> run $ sudo aptitude update
[10:33] <EagleScreen> and check for updates
[10:33] <EagleScreen> or run $ sudo aptitude full-upgrade, to upgrade all packages, but this will upgrade any package to its backport version
[11:10] <dwidmann> yo eagles0513875
[11:19] <illio> I've just bought a new hard drive for my laptop, so what I want to do is backup my entire system, install a new Kubuntu on the new hard drive and then restore all installed apps and settings into the new system, but without affecting such things as hard drive encryption, disc setup etc. .. how do I do that?
[11:27] <nixi> hi..
[11:28] <nixi> how do i deactivate the sounds from startup etc.?
[11:43] <jygfjfcv> ciao a tutti
[11:43] <jygfjfcv> c'è qualcuno che mi può auitare?
[11:43] <jygfjfcv> ??
[12:44] <bergan> aa ;)
[13:13] <Prune> how can I add an application alias to my Applications menu?
[13:13] <Prune> gEdit is the one I want to add
[13:47] <devD> I have installed 'kubuntu-desktop' in my ubuntu and when I rebooted to kde there was no icons like places, applications & system . Even network & sound was not working there.
[13:54] <avihayb> devD: applications places and system can all be accessed from the kmenu on the panle
[13:56] <devD> avihayb, but they are not in the panel at all, there are no options at all, blank desktop and only right click shows some option . There is a small icon on the top right corner which can be seen in any KDE desktop.
[13:57] <avihayb> so your panel is blank?
[13:58] <BluesKaj> G'Day all
[14:11] <Prune> how can I add an application alias to my Applications menu?
[14:37] <Prune> how can I add an application alias to my Applications menu?
[14:39] <genii> Prune: Rightclick on Kmenu... "Menu Editor"
[14:42] <Prune> trying that now....
[14:45] <Prune> confused about where/what Kmenu is
[14:46] <genii> Prune: The big K usually in bottom left
[14:50] <genii> If you don't have one of those, you may not be using Kubuntu but something else
[14:57] <Prune> well.  I'm on Ubuntu, don' tknow if I'm on Kubuntu
[14:58] <Prune> I don't see a "properties" on the left menu item
[15:05] <javier> hola
[15:05] <javier> please, could someone explain me how to upgrade from Amarok 2.1 to 2.2?
[15:06] <Riddell> javier: it's part of the normal karmic packages.  there are no 9.04 packages unfortunately
[15:07] <javier> ah, then is only available for Karmic testers at the moment, right?
[15:10] <javier> thanks for information :)
[15:11] <mifauna> hola
[15:11] <javier> another question, does someone knows a posibility for making firefox look nicer in Kubunt? when it comes a window from it, it looks weird
[15:12] <Bou> javier: sudo apt-get install gtk-qt-engine
[15:13] <Bou> javier: then in system settings > appearance >GTK styles and fonts you can control the look of gtk apps
[15:14] <genii> Prune: /join #ubuntu       then, and ask there
[15:14] <genii> !es | javier mifauna
[15:14] <Prune> thanks genii
[15:15] <javier> oh
[15:15] <javier> that makes the difference
[15:15] <javier> thanks a lot
[15:19] <javier> it's better although exploring files from firefox still has bad icons, like folders, not proper from KDE, I think
[15:21] <genii> Firefox has always been somewhat ugly under KDE (the QT firefox had some promise but work seems to have stopped on it)
[15:22] <javier> mhm
[15:24] <Bou> javier: by "exploring files" you mean in dialog windows ? (for example when selecting target destination for a download?)
[15:24] <javier> I have another question. i'm under KDE 4.3.1, I upgraded recently, but unfortunatelly, each time I start KDE I loose Plasma configuration, which I have configured with wallpaper presentations, diferent for each one of my two destops.Do you think it's the matter that it is still not definitive version? Or, if not, is there something I can do to solve it?
[15:24] <javier> mhm, I meant that
[15:25] <Bou> genii: there is no way to force firefox to use dolphin for such dialogs?
[15:26] <javier> that's what I wanted, I don't have dolphin is such dialogs
[15:26] <genii> Bou: Not that I'm aware of
[15:27] <javier> :)   Can you tell me how to restart KDE? Maybe I didnt do it well
[15:27] <Bou> javier: logout and log back
[15:28] <javier> so I did well
[15:28] <javier> I didnt understand well if there is any possibility of using dolphin in such dialogs
[15:31] <Bou> javier: not that I or genii know
[15:32] <javier> ok, thanks
[15:32] <Bou> but I think it's possible to use dolphin to open the folder after you downloaded something
[15:32] <Bou> so i wonder why it wouldn't be possible to use it everywhere in firefox..
[15:36] <javier> what about KDE 4.3.1, do you know if there are still some bugs respecting pasma?
[15:37] <javier> I loose configuration each time I restart KDE: It appears without wallpapers, but if I go to settings, I find them as I configured them (diferent two deskops,with different presentations as wallpapers), and just presing Ok they come back. Back again no wallpaper after I log in next time
[15:37] <Bou> javier: you can check bugs.kde.org or ask on #plasma
[15:38] <paololino> ciao a tutti!
[15:38] <javier> ok!
[15:38] <genii> javier: Do you have "Restore Previous Session" checked off in the system settings?
[15:38] <paololino> please give me name of the italian channel for support!
[15:39] <llutz> !it
[15:39] <genii> !it | paololino
[15:39] <paololino> thanks and sorry!
[15:43] <javier> sorry genii, where could I check that?
[15:44] <genii> javier: KButton...Settings.... System Settings.... Tab which says:Advanced.... Session Manager
[15:44] <NeKit> Can you help with configuring GPRS internet connection?
[15:46] <NeKit> I'm using Windows Mobile PDA and Bluetooth adapter
[15:46] <NeKit> The following commands work: sudo pand -c 16:00:36:73:33:8B
[15:46] <NeKit> sudo dhclient bnep0
[15:46] <NeKit> but the connection is very unstable
[15:46] <javier> genii: ah, it's not that. I have ckecked in "restore previous sesion". It may be something different
[15:48] <genii> javier: Perhaps you are shutting down in an unusual way, and not from KButton...Leave...Shutdown?
[15:48] <javier> no no, I'm legal in that :)
[15:49] <javier> that I do correctly
[15:50] <javier> at least, following the rute you said
[15:50] <Bou> javier: check annma's method on #plasma
[15:51] <javier> Bou: I'm afraid you will have to explain me that :S
[15:51] <javier> ah
[15:51] <javier> OK,I understand
[15:53] <sczgilae> Hi everybody. I have a line that mounts a network directory in /etc/fstab and if I do "mount -a" everything its ok, but when i restart the computer not mounts
[15:54] <llutz> sczgilae: pls pastebin your /etc/fstab
[15:56] <sczgilae> llutz: http://pastebin.com/d650c0ce9
[16:04] <genii> I'm pretty sure fstab mounts happen before nfs gets loaded
[16:04] <Freyr> hi there!
[16:05] <llutz> genii: its smfs, not nfs
[16:05] <genii> !hi
[16:05] <Freyr> i have 4 updates blocked (all 4 are refering to linux kernel updates). how can i remove them or how can i unblocked them ?
[16:07] <Bou> Freyr: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:07] <genii> Freyr: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:09] <Freyr> thank you for help
[16:09] <Freyr> both of you
[16:09] <javier> Bou: can you asses me how to try with new account?
[16:10] <genii> sczgilae: In your fstab are the lines 17-18 and 20-21  on separate lines also, as in the paste?
[16:10] <Bou> javier: sudo adduser newuser  should create a new user named "newuser"
[16:10] <Bou> then logout and at the login page you should be able to log with this new user
[16:10] <azerty_> hello everybody
[16:10] <sczgilae> genii: yes
[16:11] <llutz> sczgilae: should read one line each
[16:12] <sczgilae> llutz: i dont understand. i have two lines but the system separate the lines to see ok
[16:13] <agnese> italians?
[16:13] <agnese> support?
[16:13] <llutz> !it
[16:14] <llutz> sczgilae: putting it on one line is the only idea i have, sry
[16:15] <Bou> javier: is it OK?
[16:15] <genii> /server/diretory1     /mnt/directory2                    smbfs      credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777            0    0
[16:16] <llutz>  //server/....
[16:16] <sczgilae> llutz: its rare because if i put mount -a mounts without problems
[16:16] <llutz> sczgilae: right, i wonder why...
[16:17] <genii> It's probably just ignoring the stuff in line2
[16:17] <llutz> genii: but why does "mount -a" mount it later?
[16:18] <llutz> makes no sense to me
[16:18] <llutz> maybe dns-issue during boot-time (just a guess)?
[16:18] <genii> Likely mounting as whatever user the mount -a is being called as, using the first part of the stanza
[16:19] <genii> sczgilae: You could do something like add the mount -a command to the rc.local
[16:19] <llutz> sczgilae: can you try it with ip-address instead of "server" in fstab?
[16:22] <sczgilae> genii: yes, im going to try something like that. i have tried in /etc/profile something like "mount -t ......" but when an user that is not root do a login fails because of permission.
[16:22] <sczgilae> llutz: im going to try now
[16:22] <giant81> ok I've got compiz, emerald installed and my fglrx drivers installed
[16:23] <giant81> why is it when I start compiz I loose my window borders? I thought emerald was the windows decorator, am I missing something?
[16:23] <newuser> Bou: I'm old Javier: the problem remains, I still loose configuration of desktop
[16:27] <sczgilae> llutz: It is possible that it is related to the option "_netdev"?
[16:27] <sczgilae> genii: It is possible that it is related to the option "_netdev"?
[16:30] <llutz> sczgilae: since you don't have _netdev-option specified, i doubt it
[16:32] <Cobin> Having issues with USB and built in mousepad on Asus n50v and just about any other built in devices after install.  live disk worked great.
[16:32] <Cobin> any ideas?
[16:32] <sczgilae> in other computer im trying that: "//server/directory /mnt/directory cifs username=myusername,password=mypassword,_netdev,auto,r  0  0"  but the same
[16:38] <llutz> sczgilae: last idea if ip-address doesn't work either: //server/diretory1 /mnt/directory2 cifs credentials=/root/.smbcredentials,dmask=777,fmask=777,_netdev 0 0
[16:40] <genii> You might want to try something like adding cifs or smbfs to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules        and then issue a: sudo mkinitramfs
[16:41] <genii> Which will include in the kernel next boot the fs drivers
[16:44] <sczgilae> llutz: i have solved writing the mount line in /etc/rc.local          thank you for all
[16:44] <sczgilae> genii:  i have solved writing the mount line in /etc/rc.local          thank you for all
[16:53] <liam_> good day, all ive just discovered that 'touch afile ; ls -l afile' lists root/plugdev for user/group when im logged in as my uid 1000 on jaunty... have never seen that before. any tips?
[16:54] <liam_> op wait its parent directory i think thats doing it --
[16:55] <liam_> some terribly written convenient compile script to blame i suspect
[16:55] <liam_> oh well
[16:55] <liam_> haha its ntfs braindead permissions
[16:58] <Ben348> Hello
[17:01] <radhika> how to monitor net infor
[17:02] <genii> !info knetstats | radhika
[17:26] <ghost> wooo
[17:26] <ghost> whatś going on?
[17:26] <Guest37894> people
[17:26] <Ghost777> byeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[17:26] <genii> Hm
[17:28] <romuald> salut
[17:29] <romuald> ...beaucoup de monde, mais personne au final.
[17:29] <genii> !fr
[17:29] <romuald> Hi
[17:30] <romuald> ...lot of people, but no one eventually
[17:30] <genii> romuald: You can always ask your questions in here, if using English is not an issue
[17:31] <romuald> it's not, tks
[17:33] <Ben348> Why does my network manager look like this http://i35.tinypic.com/vfi1z8.png when iv already activated the wireless driver http://i34.tinypic.com/280kxfd.png  Im trying to get wifi working on this.
[17:33] <NeKit_> !ru
[17:42] <Cerulean> How can I disable keyboard repeat for the Alt key? It's driving me mad... I've never seen the left Alt key repeating before
[17:49] <sczgilae> i have an laptop with NVIDIA video card. i have installed the drivers and everything its ok if i work as root. but if i login with normal user the computer freeze. I tried uninstalling drivers and everything ok, so i think that the problem is because of permissions. i have tried too including adm group in /etc/security/group.conf" but i have the same problem.
[17:52] <javier> Hi. Does someone knows how to make Firefox integrate in Kubuntu "atmosphere"?
[17:53] <sczgilae> javier: integrar en la atmosfera? vamos al canal kubuntu-es
[17:57] <Hatl> hi! is there a way to minimize a fullscreen opengl application? the kde shortcuts don't work
[18:01] <donnybrasco> Hi, I'm trying to use two different graphics cards to run two different displays - can anyone help me with this?
[18:02] <sczgilae> Hatl:  yes,system preferrences --> keyboard and mouse --> the last optionlike quick... global ..--> KDE component --> KWin --> minimize, then stablish keyboard shortcut
[18:03] <donnybrasco> One of my cards is an integrated intel 865 using 'i810' driver and the other is ATI Radeon (fglrx) usint 'ati' driver
[18:05] <drvoodoo> donnybrasco: does you mainboard support the use of an internal card and an agp or pcix card?
[18:07] <donnybrasco> drvoodoo: I'm not really sure (bit of a noob) I'm currently using the radeon, which is plugged into a pci slot - how can I find out if my mb supports the use of both?
[18:09] <drvoodoo> there should be a switch in the bios. but normally the internal card is deactivated by pluggin in an "external"
[18:11] <donnybrasco> drvoodoo: yes, I remember switching the bios to use the pci card - so I'd have to reboot and see if there's an option for both?
[18:11] <drvoodoo> yes
[18:11] <donnybrasco> ok - if not, then I can't do it?
[18:11] <sczgilae> donnybrasco: the first thing you have to do is "lspci" to see if the system knows about this card
[18:12] <genii> I concur with sczgilae
[18:13] <BluesKaj> donnybrasco, less cluttered if you do a "lspci | grep VGA"
[18:14] <donnybrasco> sczgilae: lspci = http://paste.ubuntu.com/281484/
[18:15] <donnybrasco> I think the system knows about it
[18:19] <BluesKaj> donnybrasco, VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]
[18:21] <donnybrasco> BluesKaj: can I use both at the same time?
[18:22] <sczgilae> donnybrasco: but do you want extended desktop?
[18:22] <vge> !sound
[18:23] <BluesKaj> donnybrasco, not sure , assumed you wanted to use the pci instard of the onboard
[18:23] <BluesKaj> instead of
[18:25] <donnybrasco> sczgilae: yes - I probably can't use two different cards for that, right?  I'd be satisfied with clone, though, or separate x server
[18:26] <sczgilae> donnybrasco: no, now i have in my computer an NVidia card and the integrated one
[18:27] <sczgilae> donnybrasco: do you have the radeon drivers installed?
[18:27] <donnybrasco> sczgilae: yes, I'm not using the integrated card at the moment
[18:27] <donnybrasco> radeon is using 'ati' driver
[18:28] <vge> OK, who muted my soundcards in alsamixer? I want blood!!
[18:28] <sczgilae> donnybrasco:  could you launch radeontool in konsole?
[18:29] <donnybrasco> sczgilae: http://paste.ubuntu.com/281502/
[18:31] <Prune> how do I force-quit my browser?
[18:32] <chirag> hello
[18:33] <chirag> need help with nuking partition
[18:33] <chirag> any one got few mins to help me out pls?
[18:34] <chirag> someone pls share ur knowledge
[18:35] <BluesKaj> what do you want to do , chirag ?
[18:35]  * genii sips and ponders sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=dev/sdX#
[18:35] <chirag> partitioning is out of order. want to correct it
[18:35] <sczgilae> donnybrasco:  write sudo aticonfig --initial
[18:36] <chirag> new bee
[18:36] <chirag> sda7 is there
[18:36] <donnybrasco> sczgilae: sudo: aticonfig: command not found
[18:37] <genii> Prune: Firefox?
[18:38] <chirag> the reason i want to correct it is that while trying to upgrade to 9.04 it says don't have sufficient memory
[18:38] <chirag> while i have but due to improper partitioning, having this trouble
[18:38] <BluesKaj> chirag, not enough info ..pls explain your partitons , do a df -h in the konsole and pastebin the output
[18:39] <chirag> blueskaj, help me with that as well pls.
[18:39] <chirag> pressed alt + f2
[18:40] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[18:40] <chirag> df -h is not coming up with anything
[18:41] <BluesKaj> chirag, look in the kmenu for System , click on Konsole
[18:41] <BluesKaj> then df -h
[18:42] <BluesKaj> copy the text to pastebin
[18:42] <sczgilae> donnybrasco: puf, im searching because with my nvidia i do very easy with nvidia-settings command. in ATI cards i dont know. maybe with xrandr command we can do something
[18:42] <chirag> k
[18:43] <chirag> http://paste.ubuntu.com/281515/
[18:44] <abdel> hello,
[18:44] <bobbob1016> For some reason, KDE keeps freezing on me.  It seems to be the file-system backend of sorts, since anything that tries file-browsing crashes.  I can navigate in konsole, but not in kate or dolphin or anything.  Any ideas?
[18:44] <donnybrasco> sczgilae: I have to go for now - time to eat - thanks for your efforts, I will work on this problem some more in a little bit
[18:45] <sczgilae> donnybrasco:  ok, np
[18:45] <abdel> can some one help me through my first tar installation, please, and newbie
[18:46] <bittin`> Hello do anyone knows how to do the apt-cache bigger?
[18:46] <chirag> blueskaj, any idea?
[18:47] <abdel> can some one help me through my first tar installation, please, i'm newbie
[18:47] <BluesKaj> chirag, your HDD is just 4.2G ?
[18:47] <chirag> :)
[18:47] <chirag> no
[18:47] <chirag> 80gb only
[18:47] <abdel> I googled for that, but some reason, i get lost in some stage
[18:48] <chirag> have migrated from XP, had opensuse for a while n came back to kubuntu
[18:48] <BluesKaj> chirag, it should show all the other partiitions ..are they hidden ?
[18:48] <chirag> in the process the partitioning is screwed
[18:48] <chirag> not sure
[18:49] <abdel> hello folks, I need your help,
[18:49] <genii> bittin`: Please don't post the same question in multiple channels. If you use Xubuntu, ask in #xubuntu if you use #kubuntu ask in Kubuntu, etc. But not all
[18:49] <bobbob1016> !patience | abdel
[18:49] <bittin`> iam using Debian :p
[18:49] <chirag> blueskaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/281520/
[18:49] <genii> bittin`: Then ask in #debian
[18:49] <abdel> #ubuntu
[18:50] <bittin`> and i know apt-get is same for all
[18:51] <genii> bittin`: The underlying system is similar. But they are not identical. You should ask in the channel that closest matches
[18:52] <chirag> any idea now?
[18:54] <BluesKaj> chirag, no it still doesn't show the whole HDD
[18:54] <chirag> what should i do?
[18:54] <chirag> n how should i do it?
[18:54] <BluesKaj> copy and paste the whole list
[18:56] <meitnerium> hi can someone help me extracting an daa file? i have already downloaded poweriso but if i type poweriso extract /path/ it says: Bad parameter: extract
[18:57] <chirag> boss this is the whole list
[18:58] <meitnerium> chirag: can you help me please?
[18:58] <chirag> meitnerium, with what?
[18:58] <meitnerium> hi can someone help me extracting an daa file? i have already downloaded poweriso but if i type poweriso extract /path/ it says: Bad parameter: extract
[18:59] <BluesKaj> meitnerium, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-do-i-open-daa-direct-access-archive-files-under-linux-or-unix-oses/
[18:59] <chirag> m trying to GET help
[18:59] <genii> meitnerium: Maybe also see http://ubuntuhowtos.com/howtos/convert_daa_to_iso
[18:59] <meitnerium> ok ok thank you very much you two
[19:00] <BluesKaj> chirag, you have an 80gig hdd , what occupies the rest of it ?
[19:01] <chirag> just around 40% is full
[19:01] <chirag> but due to wrong partitioning, havoc has been created
[19:02] <BluesKaj> chirag, download and burn GParted Live CD
[19:02] <BluesKaj> !GParted
[19:02] <chirag> what is the apprx size?
[19:03] <bittin`> got it to work now :)
[19:03] <BluesKaj> chirag, GParted is easy to use , and be sure to read the instructions ...looks like you have to repartition some of your drive and reset the labels
[19:04] <genii> bittin`: Good
[19:06] <chirag> okay blueskaj, would try that tomorrow
[19:06] <chirag> hope it should be as easy as u r saying
[19:07] <chirag> ur help is appreciated blueskaj
[19:07] <genii> !helpersnack | BluesKaj
[19:07] <BluesKaj> chirag, do some research on the 'net to find out about partitioning and how it works
[19:08] <BluesKaj> hehe
[19:08] <chirag> then it would be easy... is it what u mean? lol...
[19:08] <chirag> else it would not
[19:08] <chirag> lol
[19:09] <chirag> how is the new 9.04?
[19:09] <Mamarok> chirag: 9.04 was releasd in APril, not exactly new
[19:09] <BluesKaj> easy is not always best chirag , sometimes one learns more from testing and trying new things
[19:10] <chirag> yeah... that's why love linux
[19:11] <chirag> though can do very little with what i know so far
[19:11] <chirag> mamarok, it was the beta version i guess
[19:11] <chirag> in april
[19:12] <Mamarok> chirag: no, 9.04 == 2009 April, that is a final release, not beta
[19:12] <chirag> anyways, thank you for the hlep
[19:12] <chirag> okay...
[19:12] <chirag> good night everyone
[19:13] <BluesKaj> nite chirag
[19:15] <mrvanes> Hi, I've got a strange problem, anybody care to help?
[19:15] <BluesKaj> !ask | mrvanes
[19:15] <mrvanes> Ok, sorry ;)
[19:16] <mrvanes> My device updater stopped reacting to the inserting of CD's
[19:16] <mrvanes> USB etc still work
[19:16] <mrvanes> where to start debugging?
[19:16] <mrvanes> KDE 4.3.1
[19:16] <mrvanes> Jaunty
[19:16] <mrvanes> I meant device notifier of course...
[19:21] <BluesKaj> notifier works with data on cd , blanks don't show up for some reason
[19:22] <mrvanes> It stopped working for all CD's, DVD's audio, data etc...
[19:23] <mrvanes> But I can mount the CD manually without problems
[19:23] <mrvanes> It just doesn't show up in the device notifier anymore
[19:23] <BluesKaj> mrvanes, did you just update ? if so , relogin or reboot
[19:24] <mrvanes> No I didn't update recently and rebooted fresh an hour ago
[19:24] <BluesKaj> I had the same prob a few days ago
[19:24] <DarkriftX> !nvidia
[19:24] <BluesKaj> recommend you update , mrvanes
[19:24] <mrvanes> running aptitude
[19:25] <mrvanes> no updates available
[19:25] <BluesKaj> safe-upgrade
[19:25] <mrvanes> apt-get safe-upgrade?
[19:26] <genii> safe-upgrade is an aptitude option
[19:26] <BluesKaj> sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[19:27] <mrvanes> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed
[19:28] <BluesKaj> mrvanes, make sure your sources.list has all the debs enabled by removing the # in front of any debs in the list
[19:29] <mrvanes> partner and jaunty-proposed as well?
[19:30] <mrvanes> and wouldn't jaunty proposed conflict with kubuntu-updates ppa?
[19:31] <BluesKaj> mrvanes, try this: alt+f2,  kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list , and get rid of the ppa , it's for testing purposes only in alpha and beta versions
[19:31] <DarkriftX> what is the default nvidia driver package name?
[19:32] <mrvanes> I don't have partner and jaunty-proposed enabled for that reason, that's why I asked if I should enable them...
[19:32] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, depends on your nvidia card which kernel module is active
[19:32] <DarkriftX> long sotry short i tried to go to 185. version and it failed. i had 1.80 version and i need my compute to work so I want to reinstall the one I had
[19:32] <BluesKaj> mrvanes, enable partner , delete proposed
[19:33] <DarkriftX> how do i check that?
[19:33] <DarkriftX> lsmod
[19:33] <mrvanes> BluesKaj: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[19:34] <BluesKaj> mrvanes, after editing do sudo aptitude update , then safe-upgrade
[19:35] <mrvanes> BluesKaj: with all due respect... I don't think I'm behind in packages. The partner repo didn't add any new packages
[19:37] <DarkriftX> any ideas?
[19:38] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, try dpkg -l|grep nvidia
[19:39] <DarkriftX> it shows all of them still installed
[19:39] <DarkriftX> but the one I manually installed is what tries to load, so do i need to reinstall them?
[19:39] <BluesKaj> mrvanes, well then you are prolly up to date , but there are other repos you may not have in your sources.list that are important
[19:41] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, in oder to make a driver the default , all other previously installed nvidia drivers have to be removed
[19:41] <DarkriftX> well all of these nvidia packages seem to still be installed
[19:41] <DarkriftX> even that kde "Hardware Drivers" screen shows that 180 is still "installed"
[19:41] <mrvanes> BluesKaj: I get 4.3.1 from ppa kubuntu-backports, that has never been a problem...
[19:42] <genii> There was some udev problem which affected cd/dvd detection but it was fixed already, as far as I know. So if all upgrades have been done it might be some other thing in this case
[19:42] <DarkriftX> but its not, the 185 is what tries to load, and errors out because of failed kernel module builds
[19:42] <DarkriftX> so I want to get my system usable again
[19:42] <DarkriftX> I want to go back to the ones that worked (which were installed from apt) so I can use my computer again
[19:42] <BluesKaj> yeah, DarkriftX, the 180 is the base install for the 185 version so it's basically a header
[19:44] <DarkriftX> so does anyone have any suggestions?
[19:45] <DarkriftX> i cant believe im at a dead end
[19:45] <mrvanes> BluesKaj: Is there any way to debug solid? 'caus I think that's where things start going wrong (together with hal maybe?)
[19:47] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, sudo aptitude remove nvidia-glx-"number of driver" then sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx-"numberofdriver" that you want to install
[19:47] <genii> DarkriftX: Can you pastebin result of: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-180             (or 185, whichever you installed)
[19:47] <DarkriftX> ok, i seem to have a bunch of htem installed
[19:48] <DarkriftX> the 185 was installed form a nvidia package
[19:48] <mrvanes> BluesKaj: Ok, found the solid/hal debug page
[19:49] <DarkriftX> http://pastebin.com/d1cd49bfd
[19:49] <BluesKaj> mrvanes, I sense you are being too cautious with your repos ..make universe multiverse and all the archive repos are enabled
[19:50] <mrvanes> BluesKaj: I have them all enabled, except for partner and jaunty-proposed so I really don't think it's a repo problem
[19:50] <mrvanes> BluesKaj: Like I said I think something messed with my solid framework, but now I don't know where to start to see what's happening
[19:51] <BluesKaj> enabled and listed are 2 differnt things
[19:51] <genii> DarkriftX: What says the result for the 185 ?
[19:51] <DarkriftX> genii: 185 wasnt installed with apt-get
[19:51] <mrvanes> BluesKaj: No, believe me, I USE them, they don't have a # before them
[19:51] <DarkriftX> W: Unable to locate package nvidia-glx-185
[19:51] <BluesKaj> don't think it's installed genii
[19:52] <genii> DarkriftX: If it used a .deb then apt-get will still know about it
[19:52] <DarkriftX> i installed 185 with the nvidia .run file
[19:52] <genii> Ah, OK
[19:52] <DarkriftX> and when I boot now it says that there is a module mismatch
[19:52] <DarkriftX> i have 185 driver and 180 kernel module
[19:52] <DarkriftX> and the kernel module fails to build/download during the installer
[19:52] <DarkriftX> so I want to go back to 180 completely so it just works for now
[19:53] <DarkriftX> my screen is stuck in low graphics mode and I am getting a headache reading it
[19:53] <BluesKaj> which card DarkriftX ?
[19:53] <DarkriftX> 6150 go i thnk
[19:53] <DarkriftX> lemme lspci
[19:54] <mifauna> buenas tardes
[19:54] <mifauna> good nigth
[19:54] <DarkriftX> hrmmm, doesnt even show in there now
[19:54] <DarkriftX> but pretty sure 6150 go (mobile)
[19:55] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, you need the nvidia-glx-185 driver ..it's in the supported list
[19:56] <DarkriftX> i know but its not working
[19:56] <DarkriftX> i just want it to work
[19:56] <BluesKaj> the 180 is the mismatch
[19:56] <DarkriftX> i spent 5 hours last night with someone trying to rebuild a kernel
[19:56] <DarkriftX> and im left with a non workign computer
[19:56] <BluesKaj> remove the 180 , install the 185
[19:57] <DarkriftX> the 185 install failed
[19:57] <DarkriftX> 5 times
[19:57] <DarkriftX> 185 = unusable system
[19:57] <BluesKaj> thatcuz you still had the 180, it's default until removesd
[19:57] <DarkriftX> what about the kernel modules?
[19:58] <BluesKaj> the kernel module should be the 185 if HAL is working right
[19:58] <DarkriftX> so remove the 180 with apt and reboot?
[19:59] <BluesKaj> go to a tty
[19:59] <BluesKaj> hang on
[20:00] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, ctrl+alt+f1 , login then
[20:00] <BluesKaj> stop X  with "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[20:00] <BluesKaj> ignore the quotes
[20:00] <DarkriftX> ok, i have gdm though so ill stop that instead
[20:01] <BluesKaj> then remove the 180
[20:01] <genii> DarkriftX: If you installed the nvidia stuff prior to (re)building some kernel this can explain why it doesn't work
[20:01] <BluesKaj> then install the 185
[20:01] <DarkriftX> genii: someone tried to get me to build a kernel to fix it but it never finished
[20:02] <DarkriftX> ok BluesKaj, ill try it :S
[20:02] <BluesKaj> after installing sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[20:03] <BluesKaj> genii, right ,good point
[20:11] <DarkriftX> ok, gonna try it now
[20:12] <amitron> Can anyone help me with some wubi trouble? For some reason there are only Karmic cd images in the repository, so it doesn't really want to download it.
[20:12] <DarkriftX> anyone know why when I kill X that I lose networking?
[20:12] <genii> !9.10| amitron
[20:13] <amitron> I -know- what Karmic is.
[20:13] <genii> amitron: Then why are you asking about 9.10 wubi here and not in #ubuntu+1 ?
[20:13] <amitron> I'm puzzled because there don't seem to be any Jaunty cd images.
[20:14] <genii> amitron: What repository are you pointing it at?
[20:15] <amitron> It doesn't let me choose which one, so it's the default.
[20:15] <dhughes> hi folks
[20:16] <genii> amitron: If there are only Karmic listed, likely you're using a Karmic cd and not a Jaunty cd
[20:17] <amitron> genii, It's a Jaunty installer, seeing as it's trying to download a Jaunty image.
[20:17] <mrvanes> BluesKaj: Problem solved, I had a media-check-disable-storage_model_DVD__RW_DS_8W1P.fdi in /etc/hal/fdi/information and I REALY don't know how it got there?!
[20:17] <mrvanes> hal works in mysterious ways... ;)
[20:17] <genii> amitron: Did you have some previous wubi install that you are using the disk image file of?
[20:18] <amitron> genii, No old installs.
[20:18] <BluesKaj> mrvanes, good to hear ..not so good about the bug tho
[20:19] <mrvanes> BluesKaj: I would report if I knew who to blame or where to start?!
[20:19] <mrvanes> BluesKaj: Maybe wait to see if it happens again?
[20:21] <BluesKaj> hmm mrvanes ..I don't have anything in that file
[20:21] <mrvanes> It seems to be generated by hal-disable-polling --device /dev/cdrom 'hal' (see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/358390)
[20:22] <mrvanes> BluesKaj: But I never did that (I would remember, wouldn't I?)
[20:22] <DarkriftX> BluesKaj: didnt work but I did get lots more errors
[20:25] <mrvanes> BluesKaj: Thx so far... glad I solved it ;)
[20:29] <DarkriftX> damnit
[20:31] <BluesKaj> !compile | DarkriftX
[20:32] <BluesKaj> !build
[20:32] <DarkriftX> what do i need to build?
[20:32] <DarkriftX> i would imagine I just need to install the driver that worked
[20:32] <DarkriftX> but nobody knows how
[20:32] <BluesKaj> looking for building kernel info
[20:32] <DarkriftX> someone was walking me through it last night
[20:32] <DarkriftX> but it failed
[20:33] <DarkriftX> i spent 4 hours configuring the kernel with him and let it run overnight
[20:33] <DarkriftX> woke up to an error
[20:33] <BluesKaj> dunno why your friend thi=ought a kernel build was required
[20:34] <DarkriftX> and why does my internet stop working when I kill gdm?
[20:34] <DarkriftX> it still shows as connected, but I get invalid host or something
[20:34] <BluesKaj> that's adasngerous practice even for experienced linux users
[20:35] <BluesKaj> don't kill gdm just stop it , it's a way of stopping X , so that X isn't using the driver you're trying to remove
[20:35] <DarkriftX> i did
[20:40] <BluesKaj> DarkriftX, if you have too many errors , then a clean install of the live cd is prolly in order and you can save your data if you use the manual partitoning option on your /  partition. That's how I rescued my install from disaster , you may need to reinstall some apps but their config files will have remained intact so your settings will be retained.
[21:04] <BOZG> Does anyone use iFuse on Kubuntu?
[21:05] <Darkrift2> wow, guess I fixed it myself
[21:06] <BluesKaj> Darkrift2, share your procedure with us , so we can learn from it  :)
[21:06] <Darkrift2> i have no idea what I did
[21:07] <Darkrift2> i just started messing with shit
[21:07] <Darkrift2> stuff, sorry
[21:07] <Darkrift2> i removed the drivers, then I went to the "hardware drivers" screen, rmeoved it there
[21:07] <Darkrift2> rebooted
[21:07] <Darkrift2> went back to the hardware drivers and activated it again, rebooted, put my old xorg.conf settings back and rebooted again
[21:09] <BluesKaj> ok, then the kernel module/hal was able to see your hardware after you removed the old driver
[21:09] <BluesKaj> and by default made the right driver available after reboot
[21:09] <Darkrift2> no, im back on the old driver
[21:09] <Darkrift2> thats what I wanted
[21:09] <Darkrift2> a working computer
[21:10] <Darkrift2> i could give a crap less about the "right" driver, i want the workign one
[21:10] <BluesKaj> well the right one is usually the one that works
[21:10] <Darkrift2> which in this case is the 180 one
[21:11] <Darkrift2> 180.44
[21:11] <BluesKaj> I'm on karmic so I forget that jaunty is stillusing older drivers
[21:11] <Darkrift2> i feel bad for the guy who tried helping me for 4 hours building the kernel
[21:11] <Darkrift2> hard to tell him "sorry, dont need you anymore, that was a waste of 4 hours of our lives"
[21:12] <Darkrift2> he was walking me through step by step :S
[21:12] <BluesKaj> building a kernel isn't necessary , but some ppl think it is from purist POV
[21:13] <Darkrift2> oh well, ill deal with it tonight
[21:13] <Darkrift2> time to get ready for work
[21:16] <inanimate> Is gspca available anymore in [K]ubuntu?
[21:16] <inanimate> I have an old Creative Webcam that I'd like to get working, but everything is talking about <8.10...
[21:17] <Ev0luti0n_> folks
[21:19] <Ev0luti0n_> in windows the program folder is located by default in c:\Program files\
[21:19] <Ev0luti0n_> what is linux's equivalent?
[21:19] <Ev0luti0n_> I want to configure Cairo-dock to open programs choosen by me
[21:19] <Ev0luti0n_> but i can't figure it out the damn path to the apps
[21:20] <Ev0luti0n_> In linux you just choosed the .exe files, and the apps would open themselves. On linux there seem to be no program icons nor "executables"
[21:20] <Ev0luti0n_> i know this is a newbiew question, so take it easy, if you intend to reply
[21:20] <Ev0luti0n_> ;)
[21:22] <Ev0luti0n_> Anyone folks?
[21:23] <dverweire> eviljussi01: think i missed your question. please ask again?
[21:23] <BluesKaj> Ev0luti0n_, most apps are in /usr/bin , but the start in windows is the Kmenu in kubuntu where most apps are located graphically , you can add then to desktop or panel by right clicking and choosing the option
[21:24] <Ev0luti0n_> thank you...
[21:24] <Ev0luti0n_> but when i want to create a new shortcut manually... which path do i choose?
[21:24] <Ev0luti0n_> or for example, when i need to use a path to indicate to something the path to an app
[21:25] <Ev0luti0n_> "open with...." dialog of firefox, pex
[21:25] <Ev0luti0n_> Do you have any experience with cairo-dock?
[21:26] <BluesKaj> which kubuntu are you using Ev0luti0n_ ?
[21:26] <Ev0luti0n_> 9.04
[21:26] <Ev0luti0n_> i think if found the answer
[21:26] <Ev0luti0n_> lemme try it
[21:26] <BluesKaj> !cairo-dock
[21:27] <Ev0luti0n_> OMAGAD
[21:27] <Ev0luti0n_> precisely what i wanted
[21:27] <Ev0luti0n_> thanks a lot blueskaj
[21:27] <BluesKaj> Ev0luti0n_, this isn't gnome desktop which is ubuntu , this room is for kde desktop users = kubuntu
[21:28] <Ev0luti0n_> i know
[21:28] <BluesKaj> Ev0luti0n_, any futher questions , ask in #ubuntu
[21:28] <Ev0luti0n_> problem solved now
[21:28] <Ev0luti0n_> and cairo-dock works seamlessly on kubuntu
[21:28] <Ev0luti0n_> :)
[21:28] <Ev0luti0n_> it works just fine, the thing is that i am a newbie and couldn't configure new paths
[21:28] <tehace> omg first time kubuntu
[21:29] <BluesKaj> Ev0luti0n_, we don't get many questions about cairo-dock here
[21:30] <Ev0luti0n_> IT WORKS!
[21:30] <Ev0luti0n_> :D
[21:31] <Ev0luti0n_> gotta go now
[21:31] <Ev0luti0n_> thanks
[21:50] <Ben349> Hi can I get some help with this please http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3106722.0 ?
[21:53] <BluesKaj> Ben349, try the wext driver instead of the madwifi with the atheros
[21:54] <Ben349> Ok thanks ill have a google, its weird becuase this morning it all worked fine just now it isn't
[21:57] <BluesKaj> Ben349, what settings did you have this morning ?
[21:57] <Ben349> All I did was 1) Enable the nvida graphics driver 2) Enable wireless card thingy, restarted and it worked. Then went to school and found the tab was disabled :(
[22:00] <BluesKaj> hmm never encountered the wifi drivers in the HW config app
[22:00] <Ben349> If I find a guide on how to get Atheros AR5007 working on ubuntu will it be the same for kubuntu ?
[22:01] <BluesKaj> yes
[22:01] <Ben349> Ok cheers ill google for that then :)
[22:01] <BluesKaj> the procedure gui might be different
[22:02] <BluesKaj> Ben349, a suggestion , look at wicd if you don't have any luck
[22:02] <BluesKaj> !info wicd
[22:03] <Ben349> Ooh ok thanks for the help Blueskaj, Ill just reboot into Linux now and have a go.
[22:04] <BluesKaj> Ben349, good luck
[22:04] <Ben349> Thanks Ill need it hehe
[22:04] <BluesKaj> bbl..taking a break
[22:07] <Monika|K> kstartupconfig4 does not exist or failed. the error code is 3. check your installation -- after reinstalling a broken system (preserving home) ... what could cause this and how can I solve this?
[23:12] <a_> a
[23:13] <a_> hola
[23:14] <hanshenrik> sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin == good way to install? or should i do it manually?
[23:14] <jouhni_> hanshenrik: i did it and i like it
[23:15] <hanshenrik> k
[23:16] <jouhni_> conf files are located in something like /etc/phpmyadmin
[23:20] <jouhni_> i think it creates a new mysql user (or maybe you have to do this, but it's optinal) and it changes apache's config such that http://localhost/phpmyadmin points to phpmyadmin
[23:22] <hanshenrik> btw know where that option is set?
[23:22] <jouhni_> has anybody ever built a debian package for a java program without reading those tons of packaging guides? i'm lookuing for an easier way if i just want to spread some files in the filesystem
[23:23] <jouhni_> hanshenrik: the phpmyadmin mysql user does exist or not. that's the option ;)
[23:38] <paul_____> WEIRD! :)
[23:45] <sheldon> hi men
[23:45] <sheldon> when wll be aviable the entire KDE compiled with qt 4.6 ?
[23:50] <hanshenrik> i did sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin   - but 127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin  == 404 not found
[23:51] <hanshenrik> its supose to land there right?