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RenatoSilvaAny ideas on how to use rosetta to translate a software that does not use LP officially for translations?02:04
spmRenatoSilva: the first stumbling block'd be ensuring the upstream knows to grab the appropriate po files from LP02:05
RenatoSilvaspm: I'd do that02:06
RenatoSilvaspm: I have a planned workflow02:06
spm:-) which is probably the biggest problem for my 2c worth; so sounds like you'd be fine02:07
RenatoSilvabut LP's policy denies it02:07
spmoh?02:07
RenatoSilvathe project must use LP for translation officially02:07
RenatoSilvaI'd just use rosetta as a po web editor02:07
spmAh. I wasn't aware of that wrinkle. apologies for misleading.02:08
RenatoSilvaspm: you're not from staff?02:08
spivspm: I assume it's known that the branch scanner doesn't seem to be working?02:08
spmsysadmin, not translation policies expert :-)02:08
spmspiv: aye. it's a bit twitchy atm.02:08
spmspiv: mwhudson did tell you about the s/~spiv.*// addition to the scanner??02:09
mwhudsonspiv, spm: the scanner is fine, the puller is ill02:10
spmmwhudson: i did it *again*. s/scanner/puller/ gah gah gah gah.02:10
mwhudsonspm: spiv started it02:11
RenatoSilvaspm: I was thinking of a hack: introduce the po/pot in my related project02:11
spmto confirm - scanner is busy working fine right now.02:11
spivmwhudson: well, the lack of scanning is the symptom I noticed :P02:11
mwhudsonspiv: sure02:11
spmrobert_ancell: can you confirm that branch of yours is now as expected?03:08
robert_ancellspm: looking now...03:12
spmta03:13
robert_ancellspm, it looks like revision 113 got lost03:16
spmmwhudson: ^^ ???03:16
robert_ancellit's in the log but the changes are not in the head03:17
mwhudsonrobert_ancell: ??03:17
mwhudsonrobert_ancell: which is this branch?03:17
robert_ancelllp:~ubuntu-desktop/gdm/ubuntu03:17
mwhudsonrobert_ancell: what is is that's other than you expect?03:19
mwhudsons/is is/is it/03:19
robert_ancellso rev 118 added debian/patches/80_disable_busy_cursor.patch and modified debian/changelog but a clone of lp:~ubuntu-desktop/gdm/ubuntu doesn't show these changes03:19
mwhudsonrobert_ancell: you mean rev 113, right?03:21
robert_ancellsorry, yes03:21
mwhudsonrobert_ancell: it should be there now03:21
mwhudsonrobert_ancell: when did you make the clone that missed the rev?03:21
robert_ancellThe clone was longstanding, I updated to 113 today, made some commits, then couldn't push which is why I asked here03:22
robert_ancellSo bzr log -v shows 114 did remove the changes but that doesn't seem to make sense03:23
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mwhudsonrobert_ancell: i guess you need to ask seb about that03:25
mwhudsonrobert_ancell: i very much doubt it's launchpad's fault03:25
robert_ancellI've emailed seb to check, I'll let you know if it wasn't intentional03:26
mwhudsonok03:26
robert_ancellspm, mwhudson, thanks03:26
spivmwhudson: Ooh, OOPS-1368MPCJ1 (LP failed to send merge proposal notification, maybe because it wasn't pulled yet so no diff could be made?)04:22
ubottuhttps://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1368MPCJ104:22
mwhudsoni thought the diff mailer was smarter than that04:22
* spiv smiles sweetly04:23
spivmwhudson: on the other hand, I got a very polite email from LP telling me about the problem :)04:23
mwhudsonspiv: sounds like a dangerous regression, informing users what's going on rather than just silently doing nothing04:29
spivmwhudson: dangerous and possibly subversive!  The rebellion must be quashed!04:39
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ScottKAt least it didn't actually let the user do anything about it.04:48
al-maisanGood morning!06:36
mbtWondering if anyone would be around to help me with a server-side codehosting problem; need a lock broken:  http://pastebin.com/m73b09df506:42
spmmwhudson: ^^ I assume this is something fairly trivial for me to do - any gotchas I need to be aware of? (breaking the lock)06:47
lifelessmbt: spm: users can break their own locks.06:52
mbtlifeless, Please see the pastebin.  It will not let me.06:53
lifelessmbt: 'bzr break-lock :push'06:53
lifelessmbt: thats because the URL it tells you to use is bong; there is a bug open about that06:53
mbtlifeless, So the command it gives in its help output is incorrect?06:53
mbtAhh, alright.06:53
mbtlifeless, thanks!  I'm able to push again.06:54
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rippsIs there going to be the possibility to delete ppa's in the future?08:26
noodles775ripps: afaiui, we'd always want to keep a history of the publishing (like any other publishing system). Why do you want to delete the history of an old PPA?08:28
rippsnoodles775: I was considering creating a seperate ppa for testing new libmpdclient2 apps, but once they've hit fullsteam, I wanted to move the packages to their respected primary ppas08:30
rippsI suppose I should just use my personal staging ppa for that.08:30
rippsIt seems unneccsary to have an empty ppa in my teams page08:31
noodles775ripps: yeah, either way that'd be fine, but I still don't see why you'd need or want to delete the history of publishing to that test ppa.08:31
noodles775ripps: right08:31
noodles775ripps: so perhaps we should investigate the ability to dis-associate a ppa with a team/person.08:32
rippsnoodles775: actually, yes. That probably be better08:32
noodles775ripps: great. I'll see if there's already a bug, if not I'll file it.08:32
rippsnoodles775: thanks :)08:33
rippsnoodles775: Oh, I have an even better question, if I could indeed disassciate a ppa from my team, could I make the leftover address of that old ppa forward to a new one. It seems I might need to merge 2 ppas in the near future.08:37
noodles775ripps: I've updated bug 392887 with your thoughts. Feel free to add more details.08:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 392887 in soyuz "Cannot delete PPA" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39288708:41
rippsnoodles775: awesome, thanks08:41
dpmjtv: henninge_, can any of you come by to #ubuntu-installer? We've got a problem with the debian-installer templates in Ubuntu and it would be great if you could give us a hand...10:09
jtvdpm: coming...10:10
dpmthanks!10:10
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mpt"The following errors were encountered: OK"13:58
beunompt, leaving aside our stupid error message, launchpad seems to be very slow atm14:01
mptah, that's probably why14:02
mpt(why the error message didn't end up fully-formed, that is)14:02
beunompt, I think the API does funky things to errors14:02
beunowe have an error handling sprint in Nov14:03
beunofor lazr-js14:03
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ulysses__LP and Ubuntu Wiki seems to be dead14:35
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mbtIs it possible to simply upgrade a project's trunk to the 2a bzr format in-place, or does a new trunk branch really have to be created?16:33
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kirklandwhat's the process for kick/banning a bad LP user?16:40
kirklandcan an admin please kick/ban davidelizondo2006?16:42
kirklandthis user is adding garbage to a number of my bug reports16:42
kirklandi see he's doing this to others too16:42
ScottKkirkland: I think you need to ask a question about malone on LP to get it done16:44
kirklandScottK: cheers16:44
ScottKAlso if it's garbage that's not obviously spam, I wish you luck.  I've yet to succeed.16:45
RobOakesIs this a good place to ask PPA and package signing questions?17:18
lodderhi RobOakes17:27
maxbRobOakes: This is a good place to ask about PPA issues insofar as they relate to using Launchpad-the-service. If the questions tend towards "How do I make an Ubuntu source package?", then they are more into #ubuntu-motu's territory17:34
RobOakesThanks maxb.  I've got an unsigned package that I would like to change to a signed package and upload to my PPA.17:36
maxbdebsign whatever_source.changes17:36
RobOakesMy question is, what type of key do I need to sign it with.  Do I use an ssh key (like my pub_rsa), or do I need to create a PGP key?17:36
RobOakes(Sorry, I'm tremendously new to the encryption/signing thing and I've just started reading about these this morning.)17:37
maxbPackage signing is exclusively to do with PGP keys17:37
maxbThe only time you use a SSH key to interact with Launchpad is when you are pulling/pushing code using Bazaar17:37
RobOakesOkay, that makes sense.  I wasn't sure if I needed to use my existing launchpad SSH key (which wasn't something I was excited to do), for signing.17:38
RobOakesWhich is to say, I'm not even sure if an ssh key can sign17:38
RobOakesDoes the encryption type matter?  Is there any reason DSA Elgamal is better than RSA?17:41
lodderRobOakes: use the default17:42
maxbAlthough there's discussion on changing the default at the moment :-)17:43
lodderah17:43
maxbI am in no way a crypto guru, but I'd probably create an RSA 4096 bit key if I was creating a new personal general purpose key at the moment17:45
stanihow can I get all blueprints associated to a project series through the launchpad api?17:49
beunostani, I think we don't have APIs for blueprints17:50
mptHow do I change a bug report from private to public?17:50
mpt(or from security-related to not)17:50
stanibeuno: ah thanks, hmm... i wanted to batch assign blueprints to a milestone17:51
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addikt1vehi18:16
addikt1vehow do i delete a projet i just registered?18:16
Ursinhaaddikt1ve, you have to file a question asking for it to be removed, you can do it here: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+addquestion18:19
addikt1veUrsinha: yeah I just discovered that page18:19
addikt1vemmh actually it seems more reasonable to change ownership of the project18:20
addikt1veI guess I did it right18:20
addikt1vebecause its maintener bacame "wedesign Team" instead of addikt1ve :)18:21
addikt1vebut it's still telling me to use lp:~the-addikt1ve/wedesign/trunk as a bzr url18:21
addikt1veand, wel18:23
addikt1vel that sucks.18:23
LarstiQthat is easy to change18:24
LarstiQaddikt1ve: push up a branch under the team namespace, like lp:~webdesign-team/webdesign/trunk18:25
LarstiQaddikt1ve: then set the series focus to point at that branch instead of lp;~the-addikti1ve/wedesign/trunk18:25
addikt1veLarstiQ: actually, I created a new branch which belongs to wedesign Team, and deleted the branch which I used to own18:27
addikt1vethere was no code in it, so, that's cool.18:27
addikt1vethank you :)18:27
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mrooney|wOh no, a bug! Perhaps launchpad isn't properly html escaping when sending bugs upstream?18:42
mrooney|wI tried to send https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/438580 upstream to compiz by filing through launchpad and it sent me to http://bugs.opencompositing.org/2008%3AsvnDellInc.%3ApnXPSM1330%3Apvr%3ArvnDellInc.%3Arn0U8042%3Arvr%3AcvnDellInc.%3Act8%3Acvr%3A%0Admi.product.name%3A%20XPS%20M1330%0Admi.sys.vendor%3A%20Dell%20Inc.%0Asystem%3A%20distro%20%3D%20Ubuntu%2C%20architecture%20%3D%20x86_64%2C%20kernel%20%3D%202.6.31-11-generic wh18:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 438580 in compiz "expo is incorrectly centered on second twinview monitor" [Undecided,New]18:43
mrooney|wI guess, I should file a bug. Anyone know the appropriate component?18:43
jkakarmbt: Thanks for your AutoPPA bug reports.19:25
mbtjkakar, no problem.  Do you see any workarounds that I can employ to use the tool?19:29
jkakarmbt: Yeah, you're missing a dash in your version string.19:29
jkakarmbt: I've posted a workaround on the bug report.19:30
jkakarmbt: As far as I understand it, AutoPPA is doing the right thing.  The version you tried to build didn't have a "package version" component, which is expected/assumed to be there, so kaboom. :)19:30
jkakarmbt: Of course, it could fail much more gracefully. :)19:30
jkakarmbt: I'm stepping away for lunch, but please let me know if that workaround solves the issue for you.19:31
mbtAhh, alright.  I'll see if I can come up with a patch.19:32
jkakarmbt: Awesome!  You want to look at autoppa/target.py, specifically at BuildTarget._get_version.19:33
mbtjkakar, Cool.  Will do that in a few.  Seems to be working now, I didn't think about the extra hyphen.  Oops! :)19:33
jkakarmbt: Yeah, I've had that "WTF?!?!" moment several times because of a missing dash.19:34
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mbtjkakar, I don't know if I can do that.  I appear to be getting another error about missing a "commandant" module.19:51
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Kmoswhy this doesn't work on staging? https://bugs.staging.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bash/+filebug/dogOgTHhDHOnyXMsARfHVijyDrx/+login?field.title=bash+crashed+with+SIGSEGV+in+__kernel_vsyscall%28%2920:02
* RenatoSilva is trying to convince people to use LP :) http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/651/moinlp.png20:13
jkakarmbt: Yeah, the version of AutoPPA in trunk relies on commandant.  It's available at lp:commandant, or you can install the python-commandant package from https://edge.launchpad.net/~jkakar/+archive/commandant20:16
jkakarmbt: Interesting, I wasn't aware of "epochs" in version strings.  I'll try and check out the issue this week.20:26
mbtjkakar, yes, by default dpkg assumes a 0, so the full version number is for example 0:0.7.4dev-1ubuntu0 or (with a 1 epoch) 1:0.7.4dev-1ubuntu0.  The epoch serves to level uncomparable versions.20:28
mbtI did find the PPA, but now I get some commandant error about a missing import.20:28
jkakarmbt: I see.  So I guess the real problem is that the filenames AutoPPA writes are crap?20:28
mbtNo, no.20:28
jkakarmbt: Oh?  I think it only relies on bzr.20:28
mbtEpochs don't go in the file names.20:29
jkakarAh ha.  Okay that makes more sense.20:29
mbtJust in the version number.20:29
jkakarThanks for clarifying.20:29
mbtAt least I'm 90% certain of that, let me double check to be sure.20:29
mbtFirst let me find the fialing import error thing.20:29
mbtjkakar: ImportError: cannot import name DocstringHelpTopic20:30
mbtSupposedly supposed to be in commadant.help_topics20:31
mbtcommandant.help_topics, even.20:31
jkakarmbt: Crap.  I guess that means you need to use lp:commandant.  Sorry for the confusion.20:32
mbtAlright, I'll try that in a few.  First to find out why my packages aren't building from AutoPPA.  :-P20:33
mbtOh, hrm.20:35
mbtjkakar, is there a way to tell AutoPPA to run autogen.sh locally before rolling the package?  I don't store generated files in the project's branch.20:35
jkakarmbt: No, but that's a cool idea.  Can you file a bug please?20:39
mbtSure thing.20:39
mbtIn the interim, I think I can work around it by using a branch that is just used for the builds, and storing the files in there.20:39
jkakarmbt: Yeah.20:39
ThomasWaldmannmoin :)20:40
jkakarmbt: It seems that that pattern, one branch for upstream code, another branch for packaging, is quite common and even recommended, to keep the upstream branch "pure".  I've recently using the pattern with some of my other projects and it's working well.20:40
ThomasWaldmannone of our translators is suggesting moving the moin translations from master wiki to lp20:41
mbtjkakar, I can see that;  for me, it's just extra hassle, but I can see where it would provide benefit.20:41
ThomasWaldmannis it correct that i need to use bzr for translation files pushing/pulling or can i use something else also?20:41
LarstiQThomasWaldmann: tarballs afaik, but I know very little about the translation part20:42
* ThomasWaldmann uses mercurial (and has used gnu arch in the past) and is not very keen on using bzr because of that :)20:43
LarstiQThomasWaldmann: yeah, I know20:43
LarstiQ(didn't know about your arch usage though :)20:43
jkakarmbt: Yeah.20:44
LarstiQThomasWaldmann: mercurial wise, I don't think launchpad has any support for that, but you could try talking to jelmer20:44
ThomasWaldmanni could also live with http or xmlrpc :)20:45
LarstiQThomasWaldmann: then I'd look into the option of up/downloading .po tarballs20:45
ThomasWaldmannok, thanks20:46
RenatoSilvaThomasWaldmann: you could upload/download the po(t) files manuallly, but I think you mean have a script doing that using some standard url20:53
ThomasWaldmannyes20:53
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staniis it possible to remove a series target from a bug report?21:23
staniif I try "del bug.bug_tasks[1]" I get "TypeError: 'Collection' object doesn't support item deletion"21:24
maxbstani: I'm pretty sure you can't delete bugtasks21:28
stanimaxb: is there than another way to remove a series which is wrongly assigned to a bug?21:29
maxbI think in such a case, the series nomination is usually just declined21:29
maxbbut stays visible on the bug in declined status21:30
stanimaxb: do you mean with declined the 'Invalid' status?21:31
medenHello, I need help to copy official Ubuntu packages to my PPA, someone can help me?21:34
bialixcreating new project @ lp; stuck with Name field, hint says: "The name of the project as it would appear in a paragraph." -- what it means "in a paragraph"?21:41
RenatoSilvaThomasWaldmann:22:19
Kmosstani: you should set that bug task as invalid, you can't remove it.22:28
staniKmos: ok thanks22:28
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